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So let me ask a serious question [message #66191] Wed, 05 April 2006 19:07 Go to next message
chuck duffy is currently offline  chuck duffy
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t;Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS&nbsp; I didn't hear a great =
Re: So let me ask a serious question [message #66201 is a reply to message #66191] Wed, 05 April 2006 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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acks or so.<BR>> Tom<BR>>=20
> >><BR>></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >>
> >>
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Tom,=20

I'm clocking 9 devices from a Mytek WC which is being distributed by =
Lucid distro boxes. The cables range in length from 1/2 meter to 2 =
meters. This setup is working fine for me.

Deej
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:44578a42@linux...
David,
Re: So let me ask a serious question [message #66203 is a reply to message #66201] Wed, 05 April 2006 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Lynx? Is there
> a length that is too long for the signal? My run to the control room
> could be as long as 25-30' although I don't see that being necessary
> at this time.
> Tom
>
> PS I didn't hear a great difference in playback but expect to hear more
> when WC is used for tracking also. I'll keep listening for the detail.
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:4457830c$1@linux...
> Cool! glad to be of help!
>
> Enjoy!
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > David,
> > I am totally functional now using the Lucid.
> > The clincher must have been the wiring in series.
> > I did have to start at 48k to get all my EDS cards functioning
> > though. The B card didn't like starting at 44.1 and wouldn't
> > give any output until Paris first booted at 48k. Because of this
> > I think I have to use a default project to get going. I wouldn't
> > want or even be able to save a new Paris.exe right?
> >
> > I did lose the EDSTransfer line as well as UseHouseSync=1.
> >
> > Thanks David and Deej for the tips that got me to this point!
> > You guys are the greatest.
> > Tic Toc,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >I think it has to do with the Paris internal timing... I tried feeding
individual cables to the two MEC's but it seemed less stable somehow.
My thought is that if you don't have 3+ interfaces's, best to leave
well enough alone... but O'yeah, I forgot, I'm talking to DJ :-p

David.

DJ wrote:

> I'm not doubting you at all, but that's strange, wouldn't you say???......I
> mean, daisy chaining, theoretically, is not the optimal way to
> clock......but, O'yeah, I forgot, we're talking Paris here.
>
> ;oP
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:445780d9@linux...
>
>>That would be because you have 3 interfaces... you *have* to do it
>>that way. With only 2 interfaces, it works better the way Tom has done it.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>
>>>So your saying that you've got a word clock cable running frum your
>
> Lucid
>
>>>to the 1st Mec, then the 2nd cable running from mec 1 to mec 2? That's
>
> really
>
>>>strange. I guess different MOBO, CPU etc could all play a part. I'm
>
> running
>
>>>all word clock cables from the Lucid to each device (2 mecs, 442, RME
>
> card).
>
>>>never had a hiccup.
>>>Rod
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And Rod too!!!
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>>news:4456f480@linux...
>>>>David,
>>>>I am totally functional now using the Lucid.
>>>>The clincher must have been the wiring in series.
>>>>I did have to start at 48k to get all my EDS cards functioning
>>>>though. The B card didn't like starting at 44.1 and wouldn't
>>>>give any output until Paris first booted at 48k. Because of this
>>>>I think I have to use a default project to get going. I wouldn't
>>>>want or even be able to save a new Paris.exe right?
>>>>
>>>>I did lose the EDSTransfer line as well as UseHouseSync=3D1.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks David and Deej for the tips that got me to this point!
>>>>You guys are the greatest.
>>>>Tic Toc,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
>>>>news:445592a2@linux...
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>
>>>> Connecting between MEC's doesn't defeat it at all... the=20
>>>> conversion *will* be clocked by the external Generator=20
>>>> regardless of how it is connected. With fewer than three=20
>>>> interfaces, it seems to work better this way.
>>>>
>>>> I never use a default project. I create template projects=20
>>>> and open them up once Paris has been launched. This has=20
>>>> *always* worked for me. I would try deleting the 8,8=20
>>>> line... I don't recall the default installation having this=20
>>>> line in it. I believe this is something that Edmund and BT=20
>>>> had worked ou
Re: So let me ask a serious question [message #66207 is a reply to message #66203] Wed, 05 April 2006 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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e=20
>>>><A href=3D"news:4456f480@linux">news:4456f480@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am totally functional now using the
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lucid.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The clincher must have been the =
>>>>wiring in=20
>>>>series.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did have to start at 48k to get all
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>
>>>>my EDS=20
>>>>cards functioning</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>though. The B card didn't like =
>>>>starting at=20
>>>>44.1 and wouldn't</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>give any output until Paris first =
>>>>booted at=20
>>>>48k. Because of this</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I have to use a default =
>>>>project to get=20
>>>>going. I wouldn't</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>want or even be able to save a new =
>>>>Paris.exe=20
>>>>right?</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did lose the EDSTransfer line as =
>>>>well as=20
>>>>UseHouseSync=3D1.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks David and Deej for the tips =
>>>>that got me to=20
>>>>this point!</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You guys are the =
>>>>greatest.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tic Toc,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>> <DIV>"Dave(EK Sound)" <<A=20
>>>> =
>>
>>>href=3D"mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca">audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</A>&g=
>>>
>>>>t;=20
>>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>>> href=3D"news:445592a2@linux">news:445592a2@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
>>>> Tom,<BR><BR>Connecting between MEC's doesn't defeat it at all... the
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>
>>>> <BR>conversion *will* be clocked by the external Generator =
>>>><BR>regardless of=20
>>>> how it is connected. With fewer than three <BR>interfaces, it =
>>>>seems to=20
>>>> work better this way.<BR><BR>I never use a default project. I =
>>>>create=20
>>>> template projects <BR>and open them up once Paris has been =
>>>>launched. =20
>>>> This has <BR>*always* worked for me. I would try deleting the =
>>>>8,8=20
>>>> <BR>line... I don't recall the default installation having this =
>>>><BR>line in=20
>>>> it. I believe this is something that Edmund and BT <BR>had =
>>>>worked out=20
>>>> when he was having troubles with a certain <BR>set-up... I have =
>>>>never messed=20
>>>> with it myself, and have the <BR>identical system you have working=20
>>>> flawlessly with external <BR>clock.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl=20
>>>> wrote:<BR><BR>> David,<BR>> 5 cards and they are attached to A =
>>>>and=20
>>>> E. I thought you said to<BR>> connect from Mec to Mec in =
>>>>this=20
>>>> setup. It seems like it is<BR>> defeating the purpose of an =
>>>>
>>>> outboard WC with this wiring.<BR>> If it's the best (only) way it =
>>>>will=20
>>>> work then that's what I'll do.<BR>> I was going to delete=20
>>>> EDSTransfer=3D8,8. Maybe not then huh?<BR>> I will use the =
>>>>EXE file=20
>>>> to start this time. Is this only to set it up?<BR>> I will =
>>>>need to=20
>>>> use my default project (projects) in the future.<BR>> =
>>>><BR>> I'll=20
>>>> check the config settings and tell you what I've got. It =
Re: So let me ask a serious question [message #66209 is a reply to message #66207] Wed, 05 April 2006 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Senior Member
gt;</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>except, I've been doing it that way from day 1, when I only had 2 mecs, Oh
well...it is Paris.
Rod
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>That would be because you have 3 interfaces... you *have* to do it
>that way. With only 2 interfaces, it works better the way Tom has done it.
>
>David.
>
>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>> So your saying that you've got a word clock cable running frum your Lucid
>> to the 1st Mec, then the 2nd cable running from mec 1 to mec 2? That's
really
>> strange. I guess different MOBO, CPU etc could all play a part. I'm running
>> all word clock cables from the Lucid to each device (2 mecs, 442, RME
card).
>> never had a hiccup.
>> Rod
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>And Rod too!!!
>>>
>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>news:4456f480@linux...
>>> David,
>>> I am totally functional now using the Lucid.
>>> The clincher must have been the wiring in series.
>>> I did have to start at 48k to get all my EDS cards functioning
>>> though. The B card didn't like starting at 44.1 and wouldn't
>>> give any output until Paris first booted at 48k. Because of this
>>> I think I have to use a default project to get going. I wouldn't
>>> want or even be able to save a new Paris.exe right?
>>>
>>> I did lose the EDSTransfer line as well as UseHouseSync=3D1.
>>>
>>> Thanks David and Deej for the tips that got me to this point!
>>> You guys are the greatest.
>>> Tic Toc,
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
>>>news:445592a2@linux...
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> Connecting between MEC's doesn't defeat it at all... the=20
>>> conversion *will* be clocked by the external Generator=20
>>> regardless of how it is connected. With fewer than three=20
>>> interfaces, it seems to work better this way.
>>>
>>> I never use a default project. I create template projects=20
>>> and open them up once Paris has been launched. This has=20
>>> *always* worked for me. I would try deleting the 8,8=20
>>> line... I don't recall the default installation having this=20
>>> line in it. I believe this is something that Edmund and BT=20
>>> had worked out when he was having troubles with a certain=20
>>> set-up... I have never messed with it myself, and have the=20
>>> identical system you have working flawlessly with external=20
>>> clock.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>>
>>> > David,
>>> > 5 cards and they are attached to A and E. I thought you said to
>>> > connect from Mec to Mec in this setup. It seems like it is
>>> > defeating the purpose of an outboard WC with this wiring.
>>> > If it's the best (only) way it will work then that's what I'll do.
>>> > I was going to delete EDSTransfer=3D8,8. Maybe not then huh?
>>> > I will use the EXE file to start this time. Is this only to set
=
>>>it up?
>>> > I will need to use my default project (projects) in the future.
>>> > =20
>>> > I'll check the config settings and tell you what I've got. It has
>>> > been a little sluggish but stable at upwards of 35 tracks most
>>> > of the time with lots of plugs. Never a problem printing basics
>>> > which is usually 18 tracks or so.
>>> > Tom
>>> >=20
>>> >
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And Rod too!!!</FONT></DIV>
>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>>>in message=20
>>> <A href=3D"news:4456f480@linux">news:4456f480@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am totally functional now using the
>>
>> =
>>
>>> Lucid.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The clincher must have been the =
>>>wiring in=20
>>> series.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did have to start at 48k to get all
>>
>> =
>>
>>>my EDS=20
>>> cards functioning</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>though. The B card didn't like =
>>>starting at=20
>>> 44.1 and wouldn't</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>give any output until Paris first =
>>>booted at=20
>>> 48k. Because of this</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I have to use a default =
>>>project to get=20
>>> going. I wouldn't</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>want or even be able to save a new =
>>>Paris.exe=20
>>> right?</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did lose the EDSTransfer line as =
>>>well as=20
>>> UseHouseSync=3D1.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks David and Deej for the tips =
>>>that got me to=20
>>> this point!</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You guys are the =
>>>greatest.</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tic Toc,</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
>>> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> <DIV>"Dave(EK Sound)" <<A=20
>>> =
>>>href=3D"mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca">audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</A>&g=
>>>t;=20
>>> wrote in message <A=20
>>> href=3D"news:445592a2@linux">news:445592a2@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
>>> Tom,<BR><BR>Connecting between MEC's doesn't defeat it at all... the
>>
>> =
>>
>>> <BR>conversion *will* be clocked by the external Generator =
>>><BR>regardless of=20
>>> how it is connected. With fewer than three <BR>interfaces, it =
>>>seems to=20
>>> work better this way.<BR><BR>I never use a default project. I =
>>>create=20
>>> template projects <BR>and open them up once Paris has been =
>>>launched. =20
>>> This has <BR>*always* worked for me. I would try deleting the =
>>>8,8=20
>>> <BR>line... I don't recall the default installation having this =
>>><BR>line in=20
>>> it. I believe this is something that Edmund and BT <BR>had =
>>>worked out=20
>>> when he was having troubles with a certain <BR>set-up... I have =
>>>never messed=20
>>> with it myself, and have the <BR>identical system you have working=20
>>> flawlessly with external <BR>clock.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl=20
>>> wrote:<BR><BR>> David,<BR>> 5 cards and they are attached to A =
>>>and=20
>>> E. I thought you said to<BR>> connect from Mec to Mec in =
>>>this=20
>>> setup. It seems like it is<BR>> defeating the purpose of an =
>>>
>>> outboard WC with this wiring.<BR>> If it's the best (only) way it =
>>>will=20
>>> work then that's what I'll do.<BR>> I was going to delete=20
>>> EDSTransfer=3D8,8. Maybe not then huh?<BR>> I will use the =
>>>EXE file=20
>>> to start this time. Is this only to set it up?<BR>> I will =
>>>need to=20
>>> use my default project (projects) in the future.<BR>> =
>>><BR>> I'll=20
>>> check the config settings and tell you what I've got. It =
>>>has<BR>>=20
>>> been a little sluggish but stable at upwards of 35 tracks =
>>>most<BR>> of=20
>>> the time with lots of plugs. Never a problem printing =
>>>basics<BR>>=20
>>> which is usually 18 tracks or so.<BR>> Tom<BR>>=20
>>><BR>></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>I'm not saying it won't work, on our rig, it just runs better... YMMV.

Cheers,

David.

Rod Lincoln wrote:

> except, I've been doing it that way from day 1, when I only had 2 mecs, Oh
> well...it is Paris.
> Rod
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>That would be because you have 3 interfaces... you *have* to do it
>>that way. With only 2 interfaces, it works better the way Tom has done it.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>
>>>So your saying that you've got a word clock cable running frum your Lucid
>>>to the 1st Mec, then the 2nd cable running from mec 1 to mec 2? That's
>
> really
>
>>>strange. I guess different MOBO, CPU etc could all play a part. I'm running
>>>all word clock cables from the Lucid to each device (2 mecs, 442, RME
>
> card).
>
>>>never had a hiccup.
>>>Rod
>>>
>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And Rod too!!!
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>>>>news:4456f480@linux...
>>>>David,
>>>>I am totally functional now using the Lucid.
>>>>The clincher must have been the wiring in series.
>>>>I did have to start at 48k to get all my EDS cards functioning
>>>>though. The B card didn't like starting at 44.1 and wouldn't
>>>>give any output until Paris first booted at 48k. Because of this
>>>>I think I have to use a default project to get going. I wouldn't
>>>>want or even be able to save a new Paris.exe right?
>>>>
>>>>I did lose the EDSTransfer line as well as UseHouseSync=3D1.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks David and Deej for the tips that got me to this point!
>>>>You guys are the greatest.
>>>>Tic Toc,
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
>>>>news:445592a2@linux...
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>
>>>> Connecting between MEC's doesn't defeat it at all... the=20
>>>> conversion *will* be clocked by the external Generator=20
>>>> regardless of how it is connected. With fewer than three=20
>>>> interfaces, it seems to work better this way.
>>>>
>>>> I never use a default project. I create template projects=20
>>>> and open them up once Paris has been launched. This has=20
>>>> *always* worked for me. I would try deleting the 8,8=20
>>>> line... I don't recall the default installation having this=20
>>>> line in it. I believe this is something that Edmund and BT=20
>>>> had worked out when he was having troubles with a certain=20
>>>> set-up... I have never messed with it myself, and have the=20
>>>> identical system you have working flawlessly with external=20
>>>> clock.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > David,
>>>> > 5 cards and they are attached to A and E. I thought you said to
>>>> > connect from Mec to Mec in this setup. It seems like it is
>>>> > defeating the purpose of an outboard WC with this wiring.
>>>> > If it's the best (only) way it will work then that's what I'll do.
>>>> > I was going to delete EDSTransfer=3D8,8. Maybe not then huh?
>>>> > I will use the EXE file to start this time. Is this only to set
>
> =
>
>>>>it up?
>>>> > I will need to use my default project (projects) in the future.
>>>> > =20
>>>> > I'll check the config settings and tell you what I've got. It has
>>>> > been a little sluggish but stable at upwards of 35 tracks most
>>>> > of the time with lots of plugs. Never a problem printing basics
>>>> > which is usually 18 tracks or so.
>>>> > Tom
>>>> >=20
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And Rod too!!!</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV> </DIV>
>>>><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
>>>>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>>><DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
>>>>href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>>>>in message=20
>>>><A href=3D"news:4456f480@linux">news:4456f480@linux</A>...</DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am totally functional now using the
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lucid.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The clincher must have been the =
>>>>wiring in=20
>>>>series.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did have to start at 48k to get all
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>
>>>>my EDS=20
>>>>cards functioning</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>though. The B card didn't like =
>>>>starting at=20
>>>>44.1 and wouldn't</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>give any output until Paris first =
>>>>booted at=20
>>>>48k. Because of this</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I have to use a default =
>>>>project to get=20
>>>>going. I wouldn't</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>want or even be able to save a new =
>>>>Paris.exe=20
>>>>right?</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did lose the EDSTransfer line as =
>>>>well as=20
>>>>UseHouseSync=3D1.</FONT></DIV>
>>>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><
Re: So let me ask a serious question [message #66211 is a reply to message #66207] Thu, 06 April 2006 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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t;BR>Connecting between MEC's doesn't defeat it at all... the
>>>
>>>=
>>>
>>>
>>>> <BR>conversion *will* be clocked by the external Generator =
>>>><BR>regardless of=20
>>>> how it is connected. With fewer than three <BR>interfaces, it =
>>>>seems to=20
>>>> work better this way.<BR><BR>I never use a default project. I =
>>>>create=20
>>>> template projects <BR>and open them up once Paris has been =
>>>>launched. =20
>>>> This has <BR>*always* worked for me. I would try deleting the =
>>>>8,8=20
>>>> <BR>line... I don't recall the default installation having this =
>>>><BR>line in=20
>>>> it. I believe this is something that Edmund and BT <BR>had =
>>>>worked out=20
>>>> when he was having troubles with a certain <BR>set-up... I have =
>>>>never messed=20
>>>> with it myself, and have the <BR>identical system you have working=20
>>>> flawlessly with external <BR>clock.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl=20
>>>> wrote:<BR><BR>> David,<BR>> 5 cards and they are attached to A =
>>>>and=20
>>>> E. I thought you said to<BR>> connect from Mec to Mec in =
>>>>this=20
>>>> setup. It seems like it is<BR>> defeating the purpose of an =
>>>>
>>>> outboard WC with this wiring.<BR>> If it's the best (only) way it =
>>>>will=20
>>>> work then that's what I'll do.<BR>> I was going to delete=20
>>>> EDSTransfer=3D8,8. Maybe not then huh?<BR>> I will use the =
>>>>EXE file=20
>>>> to start this time. Is this only to set it up?<BR>> I will =
>>>>need to=20
>>>> use my default project (projects) in the future.<BR>> =
>>>><BR>> I'll=20
>>>> check the config settings and tell you what I've got. It =
>>>>has<BR>>=20
>>>> been a little sluggish but stable at upwards of 35 tracks =
>>>>most<BR>> of=20
>>>> the time with lots of plugs. Never a problem printing =
>>>>basics<BR>>=20
>>>> which is usually 18 tracks or so.<BR>> Tom<BR>>=20
>>>><BR>></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>>>
>>>>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Gene, were you ever able to get the MotorMix to work with Paris? Anybody
>try the K2 with Paris?
>
>James

I tried but never got it to work. This was one of the main reasons I started
playing around with a Two-DAW Mix Setup.
Gene25' is pretty long. I've got a 7 meter Canare cable that I just can't seem
to use effectively. I used it a couple of years ago with an older POD Pro,
but tried it recently with a TC D2 and couldn't achieve reliable sync. I
don't really use the digital I/O of the D2 enough to make this a big issue,
but I'm going to put the Canare on a cable tester soon and see if it's
defective.


"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44579552@linux...
> Hi Tom,
>
> No change to Paris is needed unless you add an additional interface.
> Identical length cables are not necessary, or practical. You *must*
> use high quality cable and connections though, this is very important.
> I have our WC gen in with the console housing and my cable runs
> (Canare LV61S with proper crimp connections) vary from 1' to the
> longest run of about 25'... no problems.
>
> As for the extra detail, the difference will be slight but it will be
> there. The most noticeable difference will be with a project from
> scratch.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>
> > David,
> > If I add an RME or Lynx card in the future that requires WC then
> > I will need to change to parallel right? Do all the cables have to
> > be identical length in that case? Even to the Lynx? Is there
> > a length that is too long for the signal? My run to the control room
> > could be as long as 25-30' although I don't see that being necessary
> > at this time.
> > Tom
> >
> > PS I didn't hear a great difference in playback but expect to hear more
> > when WC is used for tracking also. I'll keep listening for the detail.
> >
> > "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > message news:4457830c$1@linux...
> > Cool! glad to be of help!
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > David.
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > David,
> > > I am totally functional now using the Lucid.
> > > The clincher must have been the wiring in series.
> > > I did have to start at 48k to get all my EDS cards functioning
> > > though. The B card didn't like starting at 44.1 and wouldn't
> > > give any output until Paris first booted at 48k. Because of this
> > > I think I have to use a default project to get going. I wouldn't
> > > want or even be able to save a new Paris.exe right?
> > >
> > > I did lose the EDSTransfer line as well as UseHouseSync=1.
> > >
> > > Thanks David and Deej for the tips that got me to this point!
> > > You guys are the greatest.
> > > Tic Toc,
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks for the info James...much appreciated! This is getting a bit inv
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appens the G5 macs might drop in price.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Tyrone Corbett wrote:
>>>> I have been living with Logic 4.7 as it was PC based. Along with 4.7,
>>I am
>>>> using an Emagic Unitor 8 as the midi interface. I am now interested
in
>>upgrading
>>>> my sequencer rig. I understand that Logic 7.1/7.2 provide a feature
to
>>lock
>>>> to video within the app. My questions are:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Should I go with a Mac G5 (if so, know of any great deals out there?)
>>>> 2. Are there any PC apps. that can handle this as well?
>>>>
>>>> I am searching the web as I'm posting this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks?
>>>>
>>>> Tyrone Corbett
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>As are the song clips I just got around to. Very interesting and enjoyable.

Congrats,

Deej

"PN" <pnl@nospam.com> wrote in message news:445039d6@linux...
> The pics are great. Thanks!!!!
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
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> > I'm sorry everybody, I should've squished those pictures down a whole
> > bunch more.
> >
> > Sarah
> >
>
>Guys, along with my consideration of Logic 7.1 (Mac), I am also considering
the possibility of migrating to Cubase and staying on the PC side.

I'd appreciated any input from Cubase users on what you like/dislike about
the app.

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Thanks you guys. Will I then keep the Mecs in series with the
other WC devices connected?
Tom

"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44579552@linux...
Hi Tom,

No change to Paris is needed unless you add an additional interface.=20
Identical length cables are not necessary, or practical. You *must*=20
use high quality cable and connections though, this is very important. =

I have our WC gen in with the console housing and my cable runs=20
(Canare LV61S with proper crimp connections) vary from 1' to the=20
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As for the extra detail, the difference will be slight but it will be=20
there. The most noticeable difference will be with a project from=20
scratch.

David.

Tom Bruhl wrote:

> David,
> If I add an RME or Lynx card in the future that requires WC then
> I will need to change to parallel right? Do all the cables have to
> be identical length in that case? Even to the Lynx? Is there
> a length that is too long for the signal? My run to the control =
room
> could be as long as 25-30' although I don't see that being necessary
> at this time.
> Tom
> =20
> PS I didn't hear a great difference in playback but expect to hear =
more
> when WC is used for tracking also. I'll keep listening for the =
detail.
>=20
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:4457830c$1@linux...
> Cool! glad to be of help!
>=20
> Enjoy!
>=20
> David.
>=20
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > David,
> > I am totally functional now using the Lucid.
> > The clincher must have been the wiring in series.
> > I did have to start at 48k to get all my EDS cards =
functioning
> > though. The B card didn't like starting at 44.1 and wouldn't
> > give any output until Paris first booted at 48k. Because of =
this
> > I think I have to use a default project to get going. I =
wouldn't
> > want or even be able to save a new Paris.exe right?
> >=20
> > I did lose the EDSTransfer line as well as UseHouseSync=3D1.
> >=20
> > Thanks David and Deej for the tips that got me to this point!
> > You guys are the greatest.
> > Tic Toc,
> > Tom
> >=20
> >=20
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Re: So let me ask a serious question [message #66309 is a reply to message #66306] Fri, 07 April 2006 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: So let me ask a serious question [message #66325 is a reply to message #66215] Fri, 07 April 2006 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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