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| Anyone game for some drum editing? [message #73125] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 14:16  |
Dan B
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). Sound Frame and the Loop browser are just versions
>> of
>>>> Media Bay with filters for audio and loops enabled, respectively. Not
>>>> overly different, but perhaps saves a step over turning on filters in
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>>>> Media
>>>> Bay.
>>>>
>>>> The sequencer engine has been rewritten from what I understand. C4
>>>> feels
>>>> more tightly integrated than Nuendo 3.2. It runs really well (not
>>>> without
>>>> some bugs still, of course).
>>>>
>>>> C4 adds VST3.0 support, and new built in VST3 plugins. The new plugins
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>>>> with
>>>> are actually very good - new EQs, compressors, expander, gate, chorus,
>>>> delays, etc. They will operate in mono, stereo or multichannel
>>>> depending
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>>>> on
>>>> the channel format they are inserted on (the delays and chorus are not
>>>> multichannel unfortunately). Btw, a 5.1 instance of the multiband comp
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>>>> eats
>>>> up a lot of cpu power. The new VSTi's are also very good - Halion One
>> is
>>>> a
>>>> rompler based on the Motif to some degree - no editing, but has quite
>> a
>>>> few
>>>> useful presets. The other VSTi's are quite nice and creative and stand
>> up
>>>> well along side the Raptures and Absynths of the soft synth world
>>>> (albeit
>>>> not as versatile as either of these).
>>>>
>>>> C4 adds the Control Room that is already in Nuendo 3.2 - a great feature
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>>>> for
>>>> mixerless setups, esp. with key commands for
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| Re: Anyone game for some drum editing? [message #73127 is a reply to message #73125] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 15:21  |
Don Nafe
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Ti with a track directly
>> in
>>>> the
>>>> project window (doesn't use the VSTi rack). The only downside is only
>> a
>>>> single stereo out is used. The VSTi rack still supports full
>>>> multi-output
>>>> VSTi's, but adds a dropdown list on a button next to each insert to
>>>> select
>>>> which outputs are enabled - easing the clutter of VSTi outputs in the
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>>>> mixer.
>>>>
>>>> That's enough for now. fwiw...
>>>>
>>>> Dedric
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>Would you mind posting the wrappers and console configuration that you
determined would provide the lowest latency for using UAD-1 plugins in
Paris? IIRC, it was something along the lines of 200 "Paris" ms using a
couple of other apps/wrappers to achieve this.. I had copied this but I
can't seem to locate it.
Thanks,
Deej http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more rights
than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any sense
of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3 to
1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put into
stopping it.I think there should be a bounty on these guys.
;o)
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
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> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
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> Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
rights
> than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
sense
> of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3 to
> 1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
into
> stopping it.
>True, the sounds are very good and tweakable on both, but AT2 just feels better to me.
To me it's a little like playing a pod vs. playing a tube amp.
Cheers,<
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| Re: Anyone game for some drum editing? [message #73130 is a reply to message #73125] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 18:20 |
Aaron Allen
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_blank">parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dqoni2551u7na55n3au299t15e4tiqgum0@4ax.com...
>> for 6 years i had not received more than 3 spams on my (seldom used)
>> yahoo account...and now i get 200 a day. at least hotmail has stayed
>> the same as it was.
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>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:29:10 -0600, Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net>
>> wrote:
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>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/macworld/20061009/tc_macworld/spamha us20061009_0
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>>> Brilliant. I guess spammers and email marketing companies have more
> rights
>>> than consumers. Yet again, individual/corporate rights supercede any
> sense
>>> of ethics. Interesting that the US leads the world in spam by about 3
> to
>>> 1, and we have yet to see any effective legislation or real effort put
> into
>>> stopping it.
>
>How many of you guys have large audio drives (160 gig or bigger)that partition
them into, oh, say,2 80 gig partitions. The reason I ask, is, I thought the
seek times might be faster if the whole drive wasn't being scanned. Anybody?
I've got my 160 gig audio drive as 1 big partition.
Rod.........well.....yeah.........there's always that.......
damn!
:oD
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:452bf150$1@linux...
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> Until the mafia becomes the entrenched political power structure...
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
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>
> DJ wrote:
> > .........the more spam I get, the better I understand the motivations
behind
> > why the mafia became a means of achieving justice within a population
that
> > felt disenfranchised by the entrenched political power structure.
> >
> > "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:dqoni2551u7na55n3au299t15e4tiqgum0@4ax.com...
> >> for 6 years i had not received more than 3 spams on my (seldom used)
> >> yahoo account...and now i get 200 a day. at least hotmail has stayed
> >> the same as it was.
> >>
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| Re: Anyone game for some drum editing? [message #73133 is a reply to message #73125] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 19:56 |
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ews:452c19c9$1@linux...
> nope.......I wasn't me...
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> ;o)
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> "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> was anyone else under the impression the cambridge eq from uad was really
>> transparent?
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Jeremy,
Transparent or not I like it. It's top end is much sweeter
than Paris'. Fully functional in all ranges (no flabby bass)
and you can store presets. I'm new to it but like it on=20
everything I've tried so far. =20
Tom
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message =
news:452c22de$1@linux...
Who were you then?
--=20
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452c19c9$1@linux...
> nope.......I wasn't me...
>
> ;o)
>
> "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:452c196e@linux...
>> was anyone else under the impression the cambridge eq from uad was =
really
>> transparent?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeremy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Transparent or not I like it. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>than Paris'. Fully functional in =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and you can store presets. I'm =
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like it on </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>everything I've tried so far. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Anyone game for some drum editing? [message #73134 is a reply to message #73133] |
Tue, 26 September 2006 20:09 |
Neil
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yea. what i meant was... was anyone else under the impression the =
cambridge eq from uad was SUPPOSED TO BE really transparent.
i put it on an old track and immediately noticed a change just by having =
it inserted on the channel (geez, why does everything have to be so =
sexual these days). anyway, i never noticed it having an effect that =
way. i guess its cuz i never use it on a whole mix... i only use it on =
just about everything else.
never had much sense... but what i have i give to thee.
a biblical reference to keep the lightning from striking.
what the hell is that guy talking about?
i dunno. maybe he thinks this is the christian swingers forum.
yea... he's probably french.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Jeremy,
Transparent or not I like it. It's top end is much sweeter
than Paris'. Fully functional in all ranges (no flabby bass)
and you can store presets. I'm new to it but like it on=20
everything I've tried so far. =20
Tom
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message =
news:452c22de$1@linux...
Who were you then?
--=20
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:452c19c9$1@linux...
> nope.......I wasn't me...
>
> ;o)
>
> "Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:452c196e@linux...
>> was anyone else under the impression the cambridge eq from uad =
was really
>> transparent?
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| Re: Anyone game for some drum editing? [message #73150 is a reply to message #73143] |
Wed, 27 September 2006 09:38 |
John [1]
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------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01C6ECC1.F68396A0--Hi all,
I'm trying to sync Paris on my pc to Digital Performer/Pro Tools on my G5.
I'm generating from the G5, attempting to slave Paris via an older Midisport 2x2 (usb).
I keep getting this error:
_tptQueProject: Error in setting direction. Error code 1879048196
I seem to recall this from years ago, but it's been a while..
The interface on the G5 is an m-audio uno usb.
Any help would be great!
Cheers,
TCWe've been using these for a year, and I like them more than 7506's (not as
harsh). Not to mention you get 5 for the price of one Sony.
http://bswusa.com/proditem.asp?item=HD202PKG
Grahamhttp://www.itrstudio.com/moreme.html look at this.
I have two par, very light, not verrry comfortable (plastc pads), sound little
dark but good tame every click and background music.Price - ha, ha, ha price
is real jok.I payed ab.10$ for two par.
"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Fellow PARISians,
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>Do you have any recommendations for studio headphones? I'm looking at
>buying a handful of pairs for musicians to wear while tracking.
>
>My priorities are:
>1. Must be closed headphones (no leakage of click tracks)
>2. Comfort (You've gotta be able to wear them for a couple of hours of
>tracking, if need be)
>3. Price (I'm hoping not to spend $200 a pair. I'll go as high as $150
if
>I need to, but less than that would be even better.)
>4. Sound quality (I'm not doing mixing on these, so as long as they're
>relatively clean, that's fine.)
>
>Let me know what you might recommend. Thanks.
>
>Brian
>
>http://www.itrstudio.com/equipment.html
ther are 10 pair of this one.It;s true More Me are enought for tracking
"zmora" <docent191@wp.pl> wrote:
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>http://www.itrstudio.com/moreme.html look at this.
>I have two par, very light, not verrry comfortable (plastc pads), sound
little
> dark but good tame every click and background music.Price - ha, ha, ha
price
>is real jok.I payed ab.10$ for two par.
>
>
>
>"Brian Porick" <brianporick@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Fellow PARISians,
>>
>>Do you have any recommendations for studio headphones? I'm looking at
>>buying a handful of pairs for musicians to wear while tracking.
>>
>>My priorities are:
>>1. Must be closed headphones (no leakage of click tracks)
>>2. Comfort (You've gotta be able to wear them for a couple of hours of
>
>>tracking, if need be)
>>3. Price (I'm hoping not to spend $200 a pair. I'll go as high as $150
>if
>>I need to, but less than that would be even better.)
>>4. Sound quality (I'm not doing mixing on these, so as long as they're
>
>>relatively clean, that's fine.)
>>
>>Let me know what you might recommend. Thanks.
>>
>>Brian
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No more soup for you !
MW
"Jeremy Luzier" <j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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yea. what i meant was... was anyone else under the impression the =
cambridge eq from uad was SUPPOSED TO BE really transparent.
i put it on an old track and immediately noticed a change just by =
having it inserted on the channel (geez, why does everything have to be =
so sexual these days). anyway, i never noticed it having an effect that =
way. i guess its cuz i never use it on a whole mix... i only use it on =
just about everything else.
never had much sense... but what i have i give to thee.
a biblical reference to keep the lightning from striking.
what the hell is that guy talking about?
i dunno. maybe he thinks this is the christian swingers forum.
yea... he's probably french.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No more soup for you !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MW</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>yea. what i meant was... <FONT=20
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immediately noticed=20
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does=20
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whole=20
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have i give to=20
thee.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>a biblical reference to keep the =
lightning from=20
striking.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>what the hell is that guy talking=20
about?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i dunno. maybe he thinks this =
is the=20
christian swingers forum.</FONT></DIV>
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| Re: Anyone game for some drum editing? [message #73152 is a reply to message #73150] |
Wed, 27 September 2006 11:58 |
Dan B
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>i thought this was going to be a mantra sharing thread...sigh...
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:27:54 -0500, "Jeremy Luzier"
<j.luzier@comcast.net> wrote:
>was anyone else under the impression the cambridge eq from uad was really
>transparent?
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>Well, I'm sure you guys have experienced this before. Someone says to you,
"Let's record this song". You say "Ok, whose gonna sing it". They say
"Oh, hell, I can sing it". So you start recording and they are totally off
pitch and apparently don't even know what a melody is technically. So you
do take after take and you start singing them the melody hoping they will
get it but alas "THEY DON'T" and instead they do take after take never getting
close to the melody of the vocal part and not even understanding the direction
they need to be going.
It turns out some people can't freaking sing even though they have unbending
intent.
Know what I'm saying????
Discuss !!I think that's a well known trick. Make a tiny partition (20gb) and use that
to stream audio onto, then copy the files over to your "storage" partition
when done. Or just have a tiny hard drive for streaming onto.
John
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>How many of you guys have large audio drives (160 gig or bigger)that partition
>them into, oh, say,2 80 gig partitions. The reason I ask, is, I thought
the
>seek times might be faster if the whole drive wasn't being scanned. Anybody?
>I've got my 160 gig audio drive as 1 big partition.
>Rod....and then there are others who can sing really well, but you have to fight
tooth and nail to actually get them to perform because they're too shy.
But at least those ones don't bug you to record them... ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>Well, I'm sure you guys have experienced this before. Someone says to you,
> "Let's record this song". You say "Ok, whose gonna sing it". They say
>"Oh, hell, I can sing it". So you start recording and they are totally
off
>pitch and apparently don't even know what a melody is technically. So you
>do take after take and you start singing them the melody hoping they will
>get it but alas "THEY DON'T" and instead they do take after take never getting
>close to the melody of the vocal part and not even understanding the direction
>they need to be going.
>
>It turns out some people can't freaking sing even though they have unbending
>intent.
>
>Know what I'm saying????
>
>Discuss !!Ha, that's one I missed then.....I thought I had an epiphany (or whatever).
So it works???
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I think that's a well known trick. Make a tiny partition (20gb) and use
that
>to stream audio onto, then copy the files over to your "storage" partition
>when done. Or just have a tiny hard drive for streaming onto.
>
>John
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>How many of you guys have large audio drives (160 gig or bigger)that partition
>>them into, oh, say,2 80 gig partitions. The reason I ask, is, I thought
>the
>>seek times might be faster if the whole drive wasn't being scanned. Anybody?
>>I've got my 160 gig audio drive as 1 big partition.
>>Rod
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>For the money and performance, the Behringer HEADPHONES HPS5000 and HPS3000
>($39.00 list and 29.00 ) can't be beat.
But what happens when they catch fire while a client is wearing
them?
:DOr then there's the ones that start out with a less than tuneful voice,
that, over time, develop into a real soulful singer. My buddy was like
that. Couldn't really stay on key too well. With some time this improved,
and as it did it was like his heart openned up too. It got to the point
where he sang over 50% of the tunes each night. But I hear you John, some
folks just don't get that they just (respectfully) can't get it.
Cheers, MR
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:452cdb92$1@linux...
>
>
> ...and then there are others who can sing really well, but you have to
fight
> tooth and nail to actually get them to perform because they're too shy.
>
> But at least those ones don't bug you to record them... ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >
> >Well, I'm sure you guys have experienced this before. Someone says to
you,
> > "Let's record this song". You say "Ok, whose gonna sing it". They say
> >"Oh, hell, I can sing it". So you start recording and they are totally
> off
> >pitch and apparently don't even know what a melody is technically. So
you
> >do take after take and you start singing them the melody hoping they will
> >get it but alas "THEY DON'T" and instead they do take after take never
getting
> >close to the melody of the vocal part and not even understanding the
direction
> >they need to be going.
> >
> >It turns out some people can't freaking sing even though they have
unbending
> >intent.
> >
> >Know what I'm saying????
> >
> >Discuss !!
>"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>Answer: How does a Mirage compare to Boxter.
If that were posed as a question, my answer could be:
"Because since I cant afford a Boxter, I know that if I woke up
& saw one in my driveway, it would have to be a mirage."
:)Unfortunately, software to do this would be prohibatively expensive for a
single use application. Rectangular rooms have easy analytical (i.e. solved
in equation form) solutions for mode distributions, and the early reflections
are largely predictable. For non-rectangular rooms, the mode distributions
get skewed, and require a kind of finite element brute force mathematical
solution.
That said, keep the following things in mind. Low frequencys (sub 400hz)
are dominated by room mode effects. High frequencies (above 400hz) are largely
directional. If you know the dispersion of your speakers you cn do a pseudo
ray-tracing approach by drawing your room (to scale) on a sheet of paper,
and drawing rays coming out of your proposed speaker positions. As these
rays contact the sides of your room (and ceiling too, remember that your
speakers have vertical dispersion too), they are reflected such that the
angle of reflecton equals the angle of incidence (just like a billiard ball
boucing off the side bumper). Draw the first two reflections for a variety
of rays.
Consider that sound travels at approximately 1 foot per milisecond. Ideally,
there should be very few reflections that come back to the mix position within
the first 20 miliseconds (a good way to help ensure this is to make your
rear wall at least 10 feet back from the mix position). Since your drawing
is to scale you should be able to measure each ray to see what time it arrives
at the mix position. Might be easiest to cut a peice of string to correspond
to whatever length is 20 miliseconds. Sweep the string along the rays starting
at each speaker location...if the string bounces back to the mix position,
you've identified spots on the wall (and ceiling/floor) that are good candidates
for absorbtion.
There's software out there for determining the speaker boundary interface,
and that should still be fairly valid for non-rectangular rooms, as its mainly
considering adjacent walls as extensions of the speaker baffles.
For room modes, I'd say find the rectangular room that best approximates
your room shape and volume, and use that...
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Kris
"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
>
>hello,
>
>Does anyone know of a software that will calculate where to put your speakers
>in a non-rectangular room?
>I have seen plenty of softwares that will do that, but not funny shaped
rooms.
>Anyone? Please.
>
>Thanks You,
>Brandon"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>It turns out some people can't freaking sing even though they
have unbending intent.
>
>Know what I'm saying????
>
>Discuss !!
What I find most interesting about this kind of situation is
that plenty of musicians seem to think that singing is
something anyone can do, regardless of if they practice it or
not. Granted, most people can carry a rudimentary tune at the
very least, and some are even naturally-gifted singers (I
recorded a young guy recently - he was 16 or 17, I can't
remember which age his mom told me at the time - and he'd never
had lessons, except for like two sessions with a vocal coach
not long before he came to record... big kid, reminded me of
Ruben Studdard in appearance; really good singer, natural
talent, and just about perfect pitch (missed like one note in
his warm-up take & zero notes in his "going for it" take of the
one song he wanted to record); anyway, it amazes me that lots
of musicians don't view the voice as an instrument. Just like
going down to the store & buying a guitar or a violin doesn't
make you a guitar player or a violinist, being born with the
ability to make noises with your mouth
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