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(859) 635-5762Happy Birthday Kim. Hope you have a good one. Thanks for keeping this going.
Rod
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)Have a good one, mine was this previous Wednesday. I was, um, overserved as
the night went on and had neglected to take Thursday off. Wasn't pretty.
Avoid this your self but have a good time.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)Thanks Kim! Happy BDay!
Take the day off and do something fun...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Kim wrote:
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> HB man. lemme take the opp to appreciate your hosting and hard work to keep
>
>> us all tied here together.
>
> Honestly it's a privilege. Mostly the place just runs itself. Once a week
> I have to press one button which runs the backup. ;o)
>
> But I appreciate the thought. Cheers!
>
> Cheers (again)
> Kim.
>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a0511a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Just thought I'd say that... ;o)
>>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)
Well, have a beer or two!
:)You could come to the U.S. in October. World Beer festival in Durham, then
AES in NY. I’m buyin’ if you do.
Happy BD
G
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)Happy Birthday as well..
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)What time should we come over? hehe
Happy Birthday !Fishing for attention eh??? OK, I'll bite...
Happy Brithday! ;-)
David.
Kim wrote:
> Just thought I'd say that... ;o)Happy happy B-day kim!
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)Happy Birthday dude.
Rich
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a0511a$1@linux...
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>
> Just thought I'd say that... ;o)"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)
hey! thanks for everything, Kim! Happy winter!
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Hey Kim,
Have the happiest birthday ever !
Tom
But don't hurt yourself in the process.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Kim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have the happiest birthday ever =
!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C7CAD7.891802A0--get drunk and go roo tiping.... Happy B day
"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
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>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)
>
>
>hey! thanks for everything, Kim! Happy winter!
>
>-steveI have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans PT)
and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.I love Nuendo/Cubase SX 's work flow and editing. They make you want to work
AND makes the recording process enjoyable.
LaMont
"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>
>I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
PT)
>and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>
>Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>
>My music means I _have_ to have good MIDI and VSTis. I got tired of slaving
machines to each other, found it made both the creative and work parts of
music less fun and more time consuming.
TCB
"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>
>I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
PT)
>and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>
>Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>
>That's interesting. I had just the opposite opinion, for mixing at least.
I keep looking for the aux sends and a bigger overview of the EQ. Do you
tend to use plug-in eq more than the track eq?
I guess I just love the analog look and workflow of the Paris mixer.
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I love Nuendo/Cubase SX 's work flow and editing. They make you want to
work
>AND makes the recording process enjoyable.
>
>LaMont
>
>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>PT)
>>and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>>looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>
>>Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>
>>
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Gratulerer med dagen, Kim. Drink a beer for me too:-)
Erling
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> skrev i melding =
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Hey Kim,
Have the happiest birthday ever !
Tom
But don't hurt yourself in the process.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gratulerer med dagen, Kim. Drink a beer =
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well.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>My music means I _have_ to have good MIDI and VSTis. I got tired of slaving
>machines to each other, found it made both the creative and work parts of
>music less fun and more time consuming.
>
>TCB
>
>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>PT)
>>and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>>looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>
>>Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>
>>
>I got tired of her running off to.... oh, wait, wrong thread... ;-)
David.
Mikep wrote:
> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans PT)
> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>
> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46a1235f$1@linux...
>I got tired of her running off to.... oh, wait, wrong thread... ;-)
>
> David.
>
...........she was probably just looking to get some PDC...........you know
how they can be sometimes.......So did you get the pony I sent UPS?
HBD
;o)
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a0511a$1@linux...
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>
> Just thought I'd say that... ;o)Cubase rocks !HAPPY BIRTHDAY KIM!!!!!
have a pint for me,
-Carl
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a05e19$1@linux...
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >HB man. lemme take the opp to appreciate your hosting and hard work to
keep
>
> >us all tied here together.
>
> Honestly it's a privilege. Mostly the place just runs itself. Once a week
> I have to press one button which runs the backup. ;o)
>
> But I appreciate the thought. Cheers!
>
> Cheers (again)
> Kim.
>
> >
> >AA
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46a0511a$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> Just thought I'd say that... ;o)
> >
> >
>On 20 Jul 2007 16:07:22 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Just thought I'd say that... ;o)
Happy Effin' Birfday!!!
pabI haven't left it either, only augmented it. The reason I see will be midi,
virtual synths and higher sample rates. On the hardware side, when we can no
longer get compatible motherboards or expansion chassis and all my stock of
them dies, it's time to get native full bore.
AA
"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
news:46a116f2$1@linux...
>
> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
> PT)
> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>
> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>
>I've used Auto-Tune for some time now - still have V1-point-
something on Floppy disks, in fact; and now am on v5-point-
whatever, but hadn't tried Melodyne until a few months ago.
Had the occasion recently to do a good deal of work on a
vocalist who needed a bit more correction than what I could get
out of A-T without it really sounding like an Auto-Tuned
vocal... if you know what I mean. Tried the Melodyne Plugin &
it was the ticket in this particular case. I know we've had a
couple of threads on this topic over time, so, based on having
done a few songs with it now, I now offer up my take on one vs.
the other:
1.) If you need a little bit of gentle correction, Auto-Tune 5
on autopilot is definitely the way to go - from what I can
tell, A-T passes more of the unadulterated qualities of the
signal through, while Melodyne EVEN IF YOU DON'T APPLY ANY
CHANGES TO THE NOTE will sound altered - it's not a harmonic
kind of alteration like AutoTune doing a severe correction
would display, but it's almost as if it "rounds out" the sound
a bit... maybe takes a bit of the edge or air off. It's not
severe, but it's noticeable. AT5 sounds really fucking good, by
the way, and has a couple of features that previous versions did
not, such as "Humanize", which, when used in gentle degrees can
sound good, and an option where you can set the pitch
correction to ignore vibrato - something that's VERY useful in
the case of any singers who have a wide vibrato!
2.) If you need more serious pitch correction, then Melodyne is
the way to go - in this type of application it displays LESS
artifacts than does Auto-Tune.
A couple other observations:
a.) Melodyne can also adjust/alter timing, ether automatically
(not recommended, IME) or manually (better - if you need to do
it at all).
b.) Melodyne does not handle "noise" as well as Auto-Tune
does... for example, if you have a nice, clean vocal track -
someone singing softly through a clean mic & preamp, it may not
make much of a difference; but if you have someone singing a
typical rock, country rock, or if you're recording Tom Waits,
you may have some problems with Melodyne... especially if you're
tracking Tom Waits through a u-67 & a nice woolly Neve preamp -
- get my drift? Let's say Tom sings the phrase: "Baton Rouge"
and phonetically it sounds something like: "Brhaagghtnn
Hrooozzgzzzh", then you, my friend, are going to have a lot of
noise/non-note kind of artifacts that Melodyne will not know
how to deal with. This includes breaths, by the way, so a
breathy female vocal may also give you fits. It'll be up to you
to do one of two things with those short bursts of noise that
Melodyne will be incapable of recognizing as notes:
1.) Leave 'em where they are & don't try to correct the pitch
on 'em & just hope it works.. or: 2.) manually edit those
artifacts out of the Melodyne display screen & extend the note
right in front of or right behind were it was to take it's
place. If you haven't worked with Melodyne yet, then you
obviously don't know exactly what I mean by that, but suffice
it to say this can be laborious on some singers & genres.
I would suggest trying "1" before automatically jumping to
option # "2" - you may find that some of the noise bits are OK,
leaving you only to have to manually tweak the remainder.
Final Tip:
When using Melodyne, ALWAYS make sure to set the record path to
a new subfolder you can create within the project directory or
folder tree - don't use the default. In this manner (setting
the record path yourself), the Melodyne files aways go with the
project, even when you back it up, archive it, etc.
Anyway, just some observations.
NeilHAPPY BIRTHDAY!
And thanks for keeping the NG going.
DCDJ,
Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and everything
is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
lbs
down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
failure.
Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
respect
NappyDJ,
Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and everything
is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
lbs
down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
failure.
Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
respect
NappyLife IS good isn't it!
Have an exciting one!
Bill
Nappy wrote:
> DJ,
> Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and everything
> is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
> lbs
> down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
> for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
> for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
> failure.
> Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
>
> respect
> NappyThere is a Melodyne-like feature in Samplitude 8 that works pretty darn
well too, aside from a few idiosyncrasies.
Neil wrote:
> I've used Auto-Tune for some time now - still have V1-point-
> something on Floppy disks, in fact; and now am on v5-point-
> whatever, but hadn't tried Melodyne until a few months ago.
> Had the occasion recently to do a good deal of work on a
> vocalist who needed a bit more correction than what I could get
> out of A-T without it really sounding like an Auto-Tuned
> vocal... if you know what I mean. Tried the Melodyne Plugin &
> it was the ticket in this particular case. I know we've had a
> couple of threads on this topic over time, so, based on having
> done a few songs with it now, I now offer up my take on one vs.
> the other:
>
> 1.) If you need a little bit of gentle correction, Auto-Tune 5
> on autopilot is definitely the way to go - from what I can
> tell, A-T passes more of the unadulterated qualities of the
> signal through, while Melodyne EVEN IF YOU DON'T APPLY ANY
> CHANGES TO THE NOTE will sound altered - it's not a harmonic
> kind of alteration like AutoTune doing a severe correction
> would display, but it's almost as if it "rounds out" the sound
> a bit... maybe takes a bit of the edge or air off. It's not
> severe, but it's noticeable. AT5 sounds really fucking good, by
> the way, and has a couple of features that previous versions did
> not, such as "Humanize", which, when used in gentle degrees can
> sound good, and an option where you can set the pitch
> correction to ignore vibrato - something that's VERY useful in
> the case of any singers who have a wide vibrato!
>
> 2.) If you need more serious pitch correction, then Melodyne is
> the way to go - in this type of application it displays LESS
> artifacts than does Auto-Tune.
>
> A couple other observations:
>
> a.) Melodyne can also adjust/alter timing, ether automatically
> (not recommended, IME) or manually (better - if you need to do
> it at all).
>
> b.) Melodyne does not handle "noise" as well as Auto-Tune
> does... for example, if you have a nice, clean vocal track -
> someone singing softly through a clean mic & preamp, it may not
> make much of a difference; but if you have someone singing a
> typical rock, country rock, or if you're recording Tom Waits,
> you may have some problems with Melodyne... especially if you're
> tracking Tom Waits through a u-67 & a nice woolly Neve preamp -
> - get my drift? Let's say Tom sings the phrase: "Baton Rouge"
> and phonetically it sounds something like: "Brhaagghtnn
> Hrooozzgzzzh", then you, my friend, are going to have a lot of
> noise/non-note kind of artifacts that Melodyne will not know
> how to deal with. This includes breaths, by the way, so a
> breathy female vocal may also give you fits. It'll be up to you
> to do one of two things with those short bursts of noise that
> Melodyne will be incapable of recognizing as notes:
> 1.) Leave 'em where they are & don't try to correct the pitch
> on 'em & just hope it works.. or: 2.) manually edit those
> artifacts out of the Melodyne display screen & extend the note
> right in front of or right behind were it was to take it's
> place. If you haven't worked with Melodyne yet, then you
> obviously don't know exactly what I mean by that, but suffice
> it to say this can be laborious on some singers & genres.
> I would suggest trying "1" before automatically jumping to
> option # "2" - you may find that some of the noise bits are OK,
> leaving you only to have to manually tweak the remainder.
>
> Final Tip:
> When using Melodyne, ALWAYS make sure to set the record path to
> a new subfolder you can create within the project directory or
> folder tree - don't use the default. In this manner (setting
> the record path yourself), the Melodyne files aways go with the
> project, even when you back it up, archive it, etc.
>
> Anyway, just some observations.
>
> NeilHey Nappy!!!....glad to see you're back among us again. It's a good thing
because Artguy and I were gettin' ready to come over there with our
accordions if we didn't hear something.........soon.
;o)
"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:46a163d3$1@linux...
>
> DJ,
> Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and
> everything
> is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
> lbs
> down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
> for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
> for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
> failure.
> Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
>
> respect
> Nappy"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> I haven't left it either, only augmented it. The reason I see will be midi,
>virtual synths and higher sample rates. On the hardware side, when we can
no
>longer get compatible motherboards or expansion chassis and all my stock
of
>them dies, it's time to get native full bore.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
>news:46a116f2$1@linux...
>>
>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>> PT)
>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>
>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>
>>
>
>Who's leaving? :)
Still love it--use it everyday and make a good living with it...
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> I haven't left it either, only augmented it. The reason I see will be midi,
>virtual synths and higher sample rates. On the hardware side, when we can
no
>longer get compatible motherboards or expansion chassis and all my stock
of
>them dies, it's time to get native full bore.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
>news:46a116f2$1@linux...
>>
>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>> PT)
>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>
>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>
>>
>
>Nappy, good deal.. really glad to hear things are going well!
Neil
"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>DJ,
>Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and everything
>is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
>lbs
>down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
>for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
>for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
>failure.
>Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
>
>respect
>NappyHey Neil..Thanks for the tips..
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I've used Auto-Tune for some time now - still have V1-point-
>something on Floppy disks, in fact; and now am on v5-point-
>whatever, but hadn't tried Melodyne until a few months ago.
>Had the occasion recently to do a good deal of work on a
>vocalist who needed a bit more correction than what I could get
>out of A-T without it really sounding like an Auto-Tuned
>vocal... if you know what I mean. Tried the Melodyne Plugin &
>it was the ticket in this particular case. I know we've had a
>couple of threads on this topic over time, so, based on having
>done a few songs with it now, I now offer up my take on one vs.
>the other:
>
>1.) If you need a little bit of gentle correction, Auto-Tune 5
>on autopilot is definitely the way to go - from what I can
>tell, A-T passes more of the unadulterated qualities of the
>signal through, while Melodyne EVEN IF YOU DON'T APPLY ANY
>CHANGES TO THE NOTE will sound altered - it's not a harmonic
>kind of alteration like AutoTune doing a severe correction
>would display, but it's almost as if it "rounds out" the sound
>a bit... maybe takes a bit of the edge or air off. It's not
>severe, but it's noticeable. AT5 sounds really fucking good, by
>the way, and has a couple of features that previous versions did
>not, such as "Humanize", which, when used in gentle degrees can
>sound good, and an option where you can set the pitch
>correction to ignore vibrato - something that's VERY useful in
>the case of any singers who have a wide vibrato!
>
>2.) If you need more serious pitch correction, then Melodyne is
>the way to go - in this type of application it displays LESS
>artifacts than does Auto-Tune.
>
>A couple other observations:
>
>a.) Melodyne can also adjust/alter timing, ether automatically
>(not recommended, IME) or manually (better - if you need to do
>it at all).
>
>b.) Melodyne does not handle "noise" as well as Auto-Tune
>does... for example, if you have a nice, clean vocal track -
>someone singing softly through a clean mic & preamp, it may not
>make much of a difference; but if you have someone singing a
>typical rock, country rock, or if you're recording Tom Waits,
>you may have some problems with Melodyne... especially if you're
>tracking Tom Waits through a u-67 & a nice woolly Neve preamp -
>- get my drift? Let's say Tom sings the phrase: "Baton Rouge"
>and phonetically it sounds something like: "Brhaagghtnn
>Hrooozzgzzzh", then you, my friend, are going to have a lot of
>noise/non-note kind of artifacts that Melodyne will not know
>how to deal with. This includes breaths, by the way, so a
>breathy female vocal may also give you fits. It'll be up to you
>to do one of two things with those short bursts of noise that
>Melodyne will be incapable of recognizing as notes:
>1.) Leave 'em where they are & don't try to correct the pitch
>on 'em & just hope it works.. or: 2.) manually edit those
>artifacts out of the Melodyne display screen & extend the note
>right in front of or right behind were it was to take it's
>place. If you haven't worked with Melodyne yet, then you
>obviously don't know exactly what I mean by that, but suffice
>it to say this can be laborious on some singers & genres.
>I would suggest trying "1" before automatically jumping to
>option # "2" - you may find that some of the noise bits are OK,
>leaving you only to have to manually tweak the remainder.
>
>Final Tip:
>When using Melodyne, ALWAYS make sure to set the record path to
>a new subfolder you can create within the project directory or
>folder tree - don't use the default. In this manner (setting
>the record path yourself), the Melodyne files aways go with the
>project, even when you back it up, archive it, etc.
>
>Anyway, just some observations.
>
>NeilGood to hear from you..Get well soon
"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>DJ,
>Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and everything
>is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
>lbs
>down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
>for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
>for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
>failure.
>Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
>
>respect
>NappyYes.. Plugin eq first, bu for some small adjustments, i'll turn on a band
or 2
"Mikep" <Mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>
>That's interesting. I had just the opposite opinion, for mixing at least.
>I keep looking for the aux sends and a bigger overview of the EQ. Do you
>tend to use plug-in eq more than the track eq?
>
>I guess I just love the analog look and workflow of the Paris mixer.
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>I love Nuendo/Cubase SX 's work flow and editing. They make you want to
>work
>>AND makes the recording process enjoyable.
>>
>>LaMont
>>
>>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>>PT)
>>>and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>>>looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>
>>>Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>>
>>>
>>
>I should say that I have not left Paris, only that I use Nuendo to track and
edit and sometimes mix..
...
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I love Nuendo/Cubase SX 's work flow and editing. They make you want to
work
>AND makes the recording process enjoyable.
>
>LaMont
>
>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>PT)
>>and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>>looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>
>>Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>
>>
>Good info Neil. I was looking hard at Melodyne, but from your analysis here,
I think Autotune5 would more closely fit my needs. thanks. You probaby just
saved me a couple of C notes.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a16061@linux...
>
> I've used Auto-Tune for some time now - still have V1-point-
> something on Floppy disks, in fact; and now am on v5-point-
> whatever, but hadn't tried Melodyne until a few months ago.
> Had the occasion recently to do a good deal of work on a
> vocalist who needed a bit more correction than what I could get
> out of A-T without it really sounding like an Auto-Tuned
> vocal... if you know what I mean. Tried the Melodyne Plugin &
> it was the ticket in this particular case. I know we've had a
> couple of threads on this topic over time, so, based on having
> done a few songs with it now, I now offer up my take on one vs.
> the other:
>
> 1.) If you need a little bit of gentle correction, Auto-Tune 5
> on autopilot is definitely the way to go - from what I can
> tell, A-T passes more of the unadulterated qualities of the
> signal through, while Melodyne EVEN IF YOU DON'T APPLY ANY
> CHANGES TO THE NOTE will sound altered - it's not a harmonic
> kind of alteration like AutoTune doing a severe correction
> would display, but it's almost as if it "rounds out" the sound
> a bit... maybe takes a bit of the edge or air off. It's not
> severe, but it's noticeable. AT5 sounds really fucking good, by
> the way, and has a couple of features that previous versions did
> not, such as "Humanize", which, when used in gentle degrees can
> sound good, and an option where you can set the pitch
> correction to ignore vibrato - something that's VERY useful in
> the case of any singers who have a wide vibrato!
>
> 2.) If you need more serious pitch correction, then Melodyne is
> the way to go - in this type of application it displays LESS
> artifacts than does Auto-Tune.
>
> A couple other observations:
>
> a.) Melodyne can also adjust/alter timing, ether automatically
> (not recommended, IME) or manually (better - if you need to do
> it at all).
>
> b.) Melodyne does not handle "noise" as well as Auto-Tune
> does... for example, if you have a nice, clean vocal track -
> someone singing softly through a clean mic & preamp, it may not
> make much of a difference; but if you have someone singing a
> typical rock, country rock, or if you're recording Tom Waits,
> you may have some problems with Melodyne... especially if you're
> tracking Tom Waits through a u-67 & a nice woolly Neve preamp -
> - get my drift? Let's say Tom sings the phrase: "Baton Rouge"
> and phonetically it sounds something like: "Brhaagghtnn
> Hrooozzgzzzh", then you, my friend, are going to have a lot of
> noise/non-note kind of artifacts that Melodyne will not know
> how to deal with. This includes breaths, by the way, so a
> breathy female vocal may also give you fits. It'll be up to you
> to do one of two things with those short bursts of noise that
> Melodyne will be incapable of recognizing as notes:
> 1.) Leave 'em where they are & don't try to correct the pitch
> on 'em & just hope it works.. or: 2.) manually edit those
> artifacts out of the Melodyne display screen & extend the note
> right in front of or right behind were it was to take it's
> place. If you haven't worked with Melodyne yet, then you
> obviously don't know exactly what I mean by that, but suffice
> it to say this can be laborious on some singers & genres.
> I would suggest trying "1" before automatically jumping to
> option # "2" - you may find that some of the noise bits are OK,
> leaving you only to have to manually tweak the remainder.
>
> Final Tip:
> When using Melodyne, ALWAYS make sure to set the record path to
> a new subfolder you can create within the project directory or
> folder tree - don't use the default. In this manner (setting
> the record path yourself), the Melodyne files aways go with the
> project, even when you back it up, archive it, etc.
>
> Anyway, just some observations.
>
> NeilWell, it wouldn't hurt to check out both if you can. I'm not
saying one's necessarily better than the other all-around, but
rather that it more or less kinda depends on the application.
At least in my view.
I'm kinda glad I have both, to be quite honest. I'm doing
a jingle tomorrow where I'll be tracking a female singer that I
used a gentle Auto-Tune setting on before & it worked great,
but in this particular case I envision having to use Melodyne
because I think the key of this jingle is right at the very top
of her range... hence possibly needing more pitch correction on
a few notes, like when she has to hit it high with power (and we
all know this usally means singers going flat near the upper
envelopes of their ranges). So again, glad I have both options.
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Good info Neil. I was looking hard at Melodyne, but from your analysis here,
>I think Autotune5 would more closely fit my needs. thanks. You probaby just
>saved me a couple of C notes.
>
>;o)
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a16061@linux...
>>
>> I've used Auto-Tune for some time now - still have V1-point-
>> something on Floppy disks, in fact; and now am on v5-point-
>> whatever, but hadn't tried Melodyne until a few months ago.
>> Had the occasion recently to do a good deal of work on a
>> vocalist who needed a bit more correction than what I could get
>> out of A-T without it really sounding like an Auto-Tuned
>> vocal... if you know what I mean. Tried the Melodyne Plugin &
>> it was the ticket in this particular case. I know we've had a
>> couple of threads on this topic over time, so, based on having
>> done a few songs with it now, I now offer up my take on one vs.
>> the other:
>>
>> 1.) If you need a little bit of gentle correction, Auto-Tune 5
>> on autopilot is definitely the way to go - from what I can
>> tell, A-T passes more of the unadulterated qualities of the
>> signal through, while Melodyne EVEN IF YOU DON'T APPLY ANY
>> CHANGES TO THE NOTE will sound altered - it's not a harmonic
>> kind of alteration like AutoTune doing a severe correction
>> would display, but it's almost as if it "rounds out" the sound
>> a bit... maybe takes a bit of the edge or air off. It's not
>> severe, but it's noticeable. AT5 sounds really fucking good, by
>> the way, and has a couple of features that previous versions did
>> not, such as "Humanize", which, when used in gentle degrees can
>> sound good, and an option where you can set the pitch
>> correction to ignore vibrato - something that's VERY useful in
>> the case of any singers who have a wide vibrato!
>>
>> 2.) If you need more serious pitch correction, then Melodyne is
>> the way to go - in this type of application it displays LESS
>> artifacts than does Auto-Tune.
>>
>> A couple other observations:
>>
>> a.) Melodyne can also adjust/alter timing, ether automatically
>> (not recommended, IME) or manually (better - if you need to do
>> it at all).
>>
>> b.) Melodyne does not handle "noise" as well as Auto-Tune
>> does... for example, if you have a nice, clean vocal track -
>> someone singing softly through a clean mic & preamp, it may not
>> make much of a difference; but if you have someone singing a
>> typical rock, country rock, or if you're recording Tom Waits,
>> you may have some problems with Melodyne... especially if you're
>> tracking Tom Waits through a u-67 & a nice woolly Neve preamp -
>> - get my drift? Let's say Tom sings the phrase: "Baton Rouge"
>> and phonetically it sounds something like: "Brhaagghtnn
>> Hrooozzgzzzh", then you, my friend, are going to have a lot of
>> noise/non-note kind of artifacts that Melodyne will not know
>> how to deal with. This includes breaths, by the way, so a
>> breathy female vocal may also give you fits. It'll be up to you
>> to do one of two things with those short bursts of noise that
>> Melodyne will be incapable of recognizing as notes:
>> 1.) Leave 'em where they are & don't try to correct the pitch
>> on 'em & just hope it works.. or: 2.) manually edit those
>> artifacts out of the Melodyne display screen & extend the note
>> right in front of or right behind were it was to take it's
>> place. If you haven't worked with Melodyne yet, then you
>> obviously don't know exactly what I mean by that, but suffice
>> it to say this can be laborious on some singers & genres.
>> I would suggest trying "1" before automatically jumping to
>> option # "2" - you may find that some of the noise bits are OK,
>> leaving you only to have to manually tweak the remainder.
>>
>> Final Tip:
>> When using Melodyne, ALWAYS make sure to set the record path to
>> a new subfolder you can create within the project directory or
>> folder tree - don't use the default. In this manner (setting
>> the record path yourself), the Melodyne files aways go with the
>> project, even when you back it up, archive it, etc.
>>
>> Anyway, just some observations.
>>
>> Neil
>
>Hey John... are you using any native DAW software at all?
Either integrated with Paris on a separate PC, or as a stand-
alone app for certain projects? Just wondering.
Neil
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>Who's leaving? :)
>
>Still love it--use it everyday and make a good living with it...
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>> I haven't left it either, only augmented it. The reason I see will be
midi,
>
>>virtual synths and higher sample rates. On the hardware side, when we can
>no
>>longer get compatible motherboards or expansion chassis and all my stock
>of
>>them dies, it's time to get native full bore.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
>>news:46a116f2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>
>>> PT)
>>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now,
but
>>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>
>>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>No prob. You're quite welcome.
Neil
"LaMOnt" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Neil..Thanks for the tips..
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>I've used Auto-Tune for some time now - still have V1-point-
>>something on Floppy disks, in fact; and now am on v5-point-
>>whatever, but hadn't tried Melodyne until a few months ago.
>>Had the occasion recently to do a good deal of work on a
>>vocalist who needed a bit more correction than what I could get
>>out of A-T without it really sounding like an Auto-Tuned
>>vocal... if you know what I mean. Tried the Melodyne Plugin &
>>it was the ticket in this particular case. I know we've had a
>>couple of threads on this topic over time, so, based on having
>>done a few songs with it now, I now offer up my take on one vs.
>>the other:
>>
>>1.) If you need a little bit of gentle correction, Auto-Tune 5
>>on autopilot is definitely the way to go - from what I can
>>tell, A-T passes more of the unadulterated qualities of the
>>signal through, while Melodyne EVEN IF YOU DON'T APPLY ANY
>>CHANGES TO THE NOTE will sound altered - it's not a harmonic
>>kind of alteration like AutoTune doing a severe correction
>>would display, but it's almost as if it "rounds out" the sound
>>a bit... maybe takes a bit of the edge or air off. It's not
>>severe, but it's noticeable. AT5 sounds really fucking good, by
>>the way, and has a couple of features that previous versions did
>>not, such as "Humanize", which, when used in gentle degrees can
>>sound good, and an option where you can set the pitch
>>correction to ignore vibrato - something that's VERY useful in
>>the case of any singers who have a wide vibrato!
>>
>>2.) If you need more serious pitch correction, then Melodyne is
>>the way to go - in this type of application it displays LESS
>>artifacts than does Auto-Tune.
>>
>>A couple other observations:
>>
>>a.) Melodyne can also adjust/alter timing, ether automatically
>>(not recommended, IME) or manually (better - if you need to do
>>it at all).
>>
>>b.) Melodyne does not handle "noise" as well as Auto-Tune
>>does... for example, if you have a nice, clean vocal track -
>>someone singing softly through a clean mic & preamp, it may not
>>make much of a difference; but if you have someone singing a
>>typical rock, country rock, or if you're recording Tom Waits,
>>you may have some problems with Melodyne... especially if you're
>>tracking Tom Waits through a u-67 & a nice woolly Neve preamp -
>>- get my drift? Let's say Tom sings the phrase: "Baton Rouge"
>>and phonetically it sounds something like: "Brhaagghtnn
>>Hrooozzgzzzh", then you, my friend, are going to have a lot of
>>noise/non-note kind of artifacts that Melodyne will not know
>>how to deal with. This includes breaths, by the way, so a
>>breathy female vocal may also give you fits. It'll be up to you
>>to do one of two things with those short bursts of noise that
>>Melodyne will be incapable of recognizing as notes:
>>1.) Leave 'em where they are & don't try to correct the pitch
>>on 'em & just hope it works.. or: 2.) manually edit those
>>artifacts out of the Melodyne display screen & extend the note
>>right in front of or right behind were it was to take it's
>>place. If you haven't worked with Melodyne yet, then you
>>obviously don't know exactly what I mean by that, but suffice
>>it to say this can be laborious on some singers & genres.
>>I would suggest trying "1" before automatically jumping to
>>option # "2" - you may find that some of the noise bits are OK,
>>leaving you only to have to manually tweak the remainder.
>>
>>Final Tip:
>>When using Melodyne, ALWAYS make sure to set the record path to
>>a new subfolder you can create within the project directory or
>>folder tree - don't use the default. In this manner (setting
>>the record path yourself), the Melodyne files aways go with the
>>project, even when you back it up, archive it, etc.
>>
>>Anyway, just some observations.
>>
>>Neil
>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
In my case:
a.) Higher sample rates & resolution.
b.) MIDI functionality.
c.) The ability to seamlessly integrate the bazillion
inexpensive and/or free VST plugins that are available out
there with no need for wrappers & hence features that may or
may not work.
NeilJohn has more outboard gear in his racks than Mercenary audio.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a1846f$1@linux...
>
> Hey John... are you using any native DAW software at all?
> Either integrated with Paris on a separate PC, or as a stand-
> alone app for certain projects? Just wondering.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>Who's leaving? :)
>>
>>Still love it--use it everyday and make a good living with it...
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> I haven't left it either, only augmented it. The reason I see will be
> midi,
>>
>>>virtual synths and higher sample rates. On the hardware side, when we can
>>no
>>>longer get compatible motherboards or expansion chassis and all my stock
>>of
>>>them dies, it's time to get native full bore.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46a116f2$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>>
>>>> PT)
>>>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now,
> but
>>>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>>
>>>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency
>>>> compensation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>a total welcome back nappy. deej...you an a accordian...now that's
halloween...
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:53:46 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>Hey Nappy!!!....glad to see you're back among us again. It's a good thing
>because Artguy and I were gettin' ready to come over there with our
>accordions if we didn't hear something.........soon.
>;o)
>
>"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:46a163d3$1@linux...
>>
>> DJ,
>> Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and
>> everything
>> is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
>> lbs
>> down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
>> for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
>> for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
>> failure.
>> Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
>>
>> respect
>> Nappy
>Not trying to be a smartass here . . . genuinely curious . . . is the
difference in those higher sample rates & resolution clearly audible? If
you put us all in a room and did a blindfold test, how many of us would
pass? I only ask because I'm not sure I would.
S
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a18916$1@linux...
>
> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>
>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>
> In my case:
>
> a.) Higher sample rates & resolution.
>
> b.) MIDI functionality.
>
> c.) The ability to seamlessly integrate the bazillion
> inexpensive and/or free VST plugins that are available out
> there with no need for wrappers & hence features that may or
> may not work.
>
> NeilI loved Paris for tracking and mixing, but it started to tick me off--numerous
bugs, lockups, plugins not working properly, mixes bouncing differently than
how I mixed them on larger projects, etc. I just couldn't deal with it anymore,
fortunately at that time I was taking a break from doing studio work and
left it behind. I then picked up a Nuendo rig for live recording, I liked
it...but wasn't in-love with the workflow. Since then, I've put in a pair
of ProToolsHD3 Accel systems with a Control24 and couldn't be happier.
Brad Lyons
www.audioandmidi.com
"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>
>I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
PT)
>and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>
>Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>
>and i was going to play cowbell. yayNever left. Use it exclusively with Performer slaved to it to do seamless
midi.
Won't even think of leaving till it all breaks down. :)
LouI'm trying how to figure out how to program it.....
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:n6k3a395amu020pugj5a3voevkgcdus0k3@4ax.com...
>a total welcome back nappy. deej...you an a accordian...now that's
> halloween...
>
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:53:46 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
> net> wrote:
>
>>Hey Nappy!!!....glad to see you're back among us again. It's a good thing
>>because Artguy and I were gettin' ready to come over there with our
>>accordions if we didn't hear something.........soon.
>>;o)
>>
>>"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:46a163d3$1@linux...
>>>
>>> DJ,
>>> Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and
>>> everything
>>> is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is
>>> 173
>>> lbs
>>> down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
>>> for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the
>>> world
>>> for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
>>> failure.
>>> Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
>>>
>>> respect
>>> Nappy
>>
>All of you would hear a difference... except for Deej, who
would purposely pick the wrong one just to be difficult.
:D
Seriously, though - I believe you'd hear a difference... I can,
and I don't have super-human hearing... people who've recorded
with me can, vs. stuff they've done elsewhere, but then there
are so many variables in that kind of comparison it's really
not a scientific one at all (but then, music isn't all about
science, is it?). It's not so much about trying to get
a "higher" high-end, it's that you're allowing content that
occurs above the 22k Nyquist frequency (if recording at 44.1K)
to pass through, and being able to then perceive the lower-
order harmonics of those elements that DO occur below the final
22k/CD quality Nyquist frequency. It's not a dramatic
difference, but it's not so subtle that you can't hear
a difference... to me it sounds more natural, I guess. You're
hearing elements of stuff that exists in the real world that
you wouldn't be hearing if you never allowed them to be
recorded.
I guess the only way to really confirm this would be to record
a performance to two identical DAW rigs at the same time, with
one DAW set at 44.1k & one set at 88.2k or 96k or whatever,
then mix both identically, convert both down to CD-quality
16/44.1 & see if there's a perceiveable difference.
Neil
Neil
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Not trying to be a smartass here . . . genuinely curious . . . is the
>difference in those higher sample rates & resolution clearly audible? If
>you put us all in a room and did a blindfold test, how many of us would
>pass? I only ask because I'm not sure I would.
>
>S
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a18916$1@linux...
>>
>> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>
>> In my case:
>>
>> a.) Higher sample rates & resolution.
>>
>> b.) MIDI functionality.
>>
>> c.) The ability to seamlessly integrate the bazillion
>> inexpensive and/or free VST plugins that are available out
>> there with no need for wrappers & hence features that may or
>> may not work.
>>
>> Neil
>
>My thinking is that it would be best to find a way to bastardize a system
running at 88.2 so that it sounded just as good as one running at 44.1.
;o)
"Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a22066$1@linux...
>
> All of you would hear a difference... except for Deej, who
> would purposely pick the wrong one just to be difficult.
>
> :D
>
> Seriously, though - I believe you'd hear a difference... I can,
> and I don't have super-human hearing... people who've recorded
> with me can, vs. stuff they've done elsewhere, but then there
> are so many variables in that kind of comparison it's really
> not a scientific one at all (but then, music isn't all about
> science, is it?). It's not so much about trying to get
> a "higher" high-end, it's that you're allowing content that
> occurs above the 22k Nyquist frequency (if recording at 44.1K)
> to pass through, and being able to then perceive the lower-
> order harmonics of those elements that DO occur below the final
> 22k/CD quality Nyquist frequency. It's not a dramatic
> difference, but it's not so subtle that you can't hear
> a difference... to me it sounds more natural, I guess. You're
> hearing elements of stuff that exists in the real world that
> you wouldn't be hearing if you never allowed them to be
> recorded.
>
> I guess the only way to really confirm this would be to record
> a performance to two identical DAW rigs at the same time, with
> one DAW set at 44.1k & one set at 88.2k or 96k or whatever,
> then mix both identically, convert both down to CD-quality
> 16/44.1 & see if there's a perceiveable difference.
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Not trying to be a smartass here . . . genuinely curious . . . is the
>>difference in those higher sample rates & resolution clearly audible? If
>
>>you put us all in a room and did a blindfold test, how many of us would
>
>>pass? I only ask because I'm not sure I would.
>>
>>S
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a18916$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>
>>> In my case:
>>>
>>> a.) Higher sample rates & resolution.
>>>
>>> b.) MIDI functionality.
>>>
>>> c.) The ability to seamlessly integrate the bazillion
>>> inexpensive and/or free VST plugins that are available out
>>> there with no need for wrappers & hence features that may or
>>> may not work.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>
>On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:50:17 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>I'm trying how to figure out how to program it.....
>
>
You'll need a full patch manager loaded on a Core2Duo Vista machine,
integrated with UnReason and the SqeezeBoxVSTI.
Only when you have that fully-integrated with Cubase, can you program
the Accordian.
pabI knew I was missing something. Also, is there a plugin that can make an
88.2 sample rate sound as good as 44.1?
;o)
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:sd94a352u0m2j1vrf94iist5s8somechl4@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:50:17 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
> net> wrote:
>
>>I'm trying how to figure out how to program it.....
>>
>>
>
> You'll need a full patch manager loaded on a Core2Duo Vista machine,
> integrated with UnReason and the SqeezeBoxVSTI.
>
> Only when you have that fully-integrated with Cubase, can you program
> the Accordian.
>
> pabGreat to hear from you, Nappy!
Is that boy taller than you yet?
Take care of yourself!
-steve (and bonnie)
"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>DJ,
>Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and everything
>is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
>lbs
>down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
>for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
>for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
>failure.
>Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
>
>respect
>NappyGood to hear and have good days into the future:-)
Erling
"Nappy" <mgrant62@googlemail.com> skrev i melding news:46a163d3$1@linux...
>
> DJ,
> Thanks for the call,I've been busy going for labs and clinics and
> everything
> is going great! My blood pressure is in the normal range my weight is 173
> lbs
> down from 205,I'm 6'2",so life is good so far. I'll be under close watch
> for the next 11 weeks at UCSD medical center one of the best in the world
> for KIdney transplantion. I pick a good place to be if you've got kidney
> failure.
> Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers.
>
> respect
> NappyAnyone here using a macbook pro & a firewire interface?
I was thinking of using this sort of setup for tracking
(my G4& mecs create a lot of fan noise)
I would then port the tracks over to paris for mixing.
This project would be recorded through either api or
demeter mic pre's (with a 1176 or dbx160x if i use a comp)
then to a ua 2192 converter acting as a master clock.
Thanks EugeneNative plugs on auxes would be nice. Perhaps the UAD Plate.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>
>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>
>In my case:
>
>a.) Higher sample rates & resolution.
>
>b.) MIDI functionality.
>
>c.) The ability to seamlessly integrate the bazillion
>inexpensive and/or free VST plugins that are available out
>there with no need for wrappers & hence features that may or
>may not work.
>
>NeilThat's what I'm doing, except that my midi slave is Cubase V or something.
Nice, simple setup for non-techheads like me. :)
S
"Louis Guarino Jr." <kateeba@snet.net> wrote in message
news:46a20dcd$1@linux...
>
> Never left. Use it exclusively with Performer slaved to it to do
> seamless
> midi.
>
> Won't even think of leaving till it all breaks down. :)
>
> LouYeah, well it certainly makes logical sense that the higher resolutions
would provide a more detailed translation back into audible sound, maybe I
just doubt my own ability to hear those details.
What about the fact that so many consumers now are listening to massively
squished versions of all that resolution (mp3, iTunes, etc)? Do you think
the sonic elements provided by the higher resolution survive the squishing?
S
"Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a22066$1@linux...
>
> All of you would hear a difference... except for Deej, who
> would purposely pick the wrong one just to be difficult.
>
> :D
>
> Seriously, though - I believe you'd hear a difference... I can,
> and I don't have super-human hearing... people who've recorded
> with me can, vs. stuff they've done elsewhere, but then there
> are so many variables in that kind of comparison it's really
> not a scientific one at all (but then, music isn't all about
> science, is it?). It's not so much about trying to get
> a "higher" high-end, it's that you're allowing content that
> occurs above the 22k Nyquist frequency (if recording at 44.1K)
> to pass through, and being able to then perceive the lower-
> order harmonics of those elements that DO occur below the final
> 22k/CD quality Nyquist frequency. It's not a dramatic
> difference, but it's not so subtle that you can't hear
> a difference... to me it sounds more natural, I guess. You're
> hearing elements of stuff that exists in the real world that
> you wouldn't be hearing if you never allowed them to be
> recorded.
>
> I guess the only way to really confirm this would be to record
> a performance to two identical DAW rigs at the same time, with
> one DAW set at 44.1k & one set at 88.2k or 96k or whatever,
> then mix both identically, convert both down to CD-quality
> 16/44.1 & see if there's a perceiveable difference.
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Not trying to be a smartass here . . . genuinely curious . . . is the
>>difference in those higher sample rates & resolution clearly audible? If
>
>>you put us all in a room and did a blindfold test, how many of us would
>
>>pass? I only ask because I'm not sure I would.
>>
>>S
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a18916$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>
>>> In my case:
>>>
>>> a.) Higher sample rates & resolution.
>>>
>>> b.) MIDI functionality.
>>>
>>> c.) The ability to seamlessly integrate the bazillion
>>> inexpensive and/or free VST plugins that are available out
>>> there with no need for wrappers & hence features that may or
>>> may not work.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>
>I have an Avid branded 7 slot Magma expansion chassis. Since the power supply
sounds much like a jet aircraft, I am going to replace it. I've identified
(I think) that it require an ATX 300 watt PS, and it needs three 4 pin molex
connectors and a 20 pin connecter to the motherboard. All of this is provided
by the quiet PS I am looking at, and the PS form factor is the same.
However, right next to the 20 pin mb connector is a small 3 pin connector
as well. What is this called?
Thanks for any help."Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Yeah, well it certainly makes logical sense that the higher resolutions
>would provide a more detailed translation back into audible sound, maybe
I
>just doubt my own ability to hear those details.
>
>What about the fact that so many consumers now are listening to massively
>squished versions of all that resolution (mp3, iTunes, etc)? Do you think
>the sonic elements provided by the higher resolution survive the squishing?
I think that's even more reason to start out with the highest-
possible quality that you're able to.
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Gary,
I don't own a 7 slot Magma but I'd put a huskier supply in there
if you can. Do they come in ATX form?
I don't know the answer to your question. Sorry.
Good luck either way.
Tom
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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C7CBE8.4E1DB750--I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm strapping
a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This compressor is a
little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a lot of the BIG
thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too, but the more I go to
the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the work that goes with
it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for with this new system. I
can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and the hardware just provides a
different level coutour and dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think a
lot of it has to do with the genre I'm working wit-lots of
folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks
with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics on
it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style country
music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds to what I'm
looking for.
I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and 4
x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
;o)Deej
You've heard of the expression "Less is More", haven't you????
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46a2d5f1$1@linux...
> I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm
> strapping a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This
> compressor is a little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a
> lot of the BIG thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too, but
> the more I go to the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the work
> that goes with it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for with
> this new system. I can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and the
> hardware just provides a different level coutour and dimensionaliy to the
> sound. More 3D. I think a lot of it has to do with the genre I'm working
> wit-lots of folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle and
> mandolin tracks with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics on
> it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style country
> music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds to what
> I'm looking for.
>
> I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
> If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and
> 4 x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
>
> ;o)
>
>
--HI Gary,
If you can take a picture of it and post it. I could tell you.
Chris
Gary Flanigan wrote:
> I have an Avid branded 7 slot Magma expansion chassis. Since the power supply
> sounds much like a jet aircraft, I am going to replace it. I've identified
> (I think) that it require an ATX 300 watt PS, and it needs three 4 pin molex
> connectors and a 20 pin connecter to the motherboard. All of this is provided
> by the quiet PS I am looking at, and the PS form factor is the same.
>
> However, right next to the 20 pin mb connector is a small 3 pin connector
> as well. What is this called?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762I've heard it....what does it mean?
;oD
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:46a2ff02$1@linux...
> Deej
>
> You've heard of the expression "Less is More", haven't you????
>
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:46a2d5f1$1@linux...
>> I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm
>> strapping a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This
>> compressor is a little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a
>> lot of the BIG thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too,
>> but the more I go to the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the
>> work that goes with it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for
>> with this new system. I can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and
>> the hardware just provides a different level coutour and dimensionaliy to
>> the sound. More 3D. I think a lot of it has to do with the genre I'm
>> working wit-lots of folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle
>> and mandolin tracks with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics
>> on it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style
>> country music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds
>> to what I'm looking for.
>>
>> I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the
>> road. If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x
>> 1176's and 4 x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a
>> little while.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>
> --
>Unfortunately, the Demeter comp isn't properly calibrated for stereo use. If
I'm going to use it in any serious way on a stereo bus, I'm going to have to
get the calibration equalled out. Definitely give me some ideas though.
;o)
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46a30480@linux...
> I've heard it....what does it mean?
>
> ;oD
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:46a2ff02$1@linux...
>> Deej
>>
>> You've heard of the expression "Less is More", haven't you????
>>
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>> 0414 913 247
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>> news:46a2d5f1$1@linux...
>>> I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm
>>> strapping a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This
>>> compressor is a little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create
>>> a lot of the BIG thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too,
>>> but the more I go to the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of
>>> the work that goes with it), the closer I get to what I've been looking
>>> for with this new system. I can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus
>>> and the hardware just provides a different level coutour and
>>> dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think a lot of it has to do with
>>> the genre I'm working wit-lots of folky/country'esque sounding acoustic
>>> guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks with electric bass and a full drum
>>> kit with 10 mics on it..................more like the Dirt Band than
>>> Nashville style country music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the
>>> closer it sounds to what I'm looking for.
>>>
>>> I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the
>>> road. If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x
>>> 1176's and 4 x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a
>>> little while.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
>Hmmmm.....forget it, you're yet too young in your mind to
understand.....hmmmm.....
erlilo
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> skrev i melding
news:46a30480@linux...
> I've heard it....what does it mean?
>
> ;oD
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:46a2ff02$1@linux...
>> Deej
>>
>> You've heard of the expression "Less is More", haven't you????
>>
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>> 0414 913 247
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>> news:46a2d5f1$1@linux...
>>> I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm
>>> strapping a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This
>>> compressor is a little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create
>>> a lot of the BIG thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too,
>>> but the more I go to the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of
>>> the work that goes with it), the closer I get to what I've been looking
>>> for with this new system. I can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus
>>> and the hardware just provides a different level coutour and
>>> dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think a lot of it has to do with
>>> the genre I'm working wit-lots of folky/country'esque sounding acoustic
>>> guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks with electric bass and a full drum
>>> kit with 10 mics on it..................more like the Dirt Band than
>>> Nashville style country music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the
>>> closer it sounds to what I'm looking for.
>>>
>>> I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the
>>> road. If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x
>>> 1176's and 4 x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a
>>> little while.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>
>Your CD have great sonic qualities too, so why worry?
Erling
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> skrev i melding news:46a29ad9@linux...
> Yeah, well it certainly makes logical sense that the higher resolutions
> would provide a more detailed translation back into audible sound, maybe I
> just doubt my own ability to hear those details.
>
> What about the fact that so many consumers now are listening to massively
> squished versions of all that resolution (mp3, iTunes, etc)? Do you think
> the sonic elements provided by the higher resolution survive the
> squishing?
>
> SMacbook Pro with Metric Halo 2882 or ULN2, depending on the I/O you need.
You can record directly into the record panel of the MIO console.
For details:http://www.mhlabs.com/metric_halo/products/
Ab
"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Anyone here using a macbook pro & a firewire interface?
>I was thinking of using this sort of setup for tracking
>(my G4& mecs create a lot of fan noise)
>I would then port the tracks over to paris for mixing.
>This project would be recorded through either api or
>demeter mic pre's (with a 1176 or dbx160x if i use a comp)
>then to a ua 2192 converter acting as a master clock.
>Thanks Eugene5043
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Unfortunately, the Demeter comp isn't properly calibrated for stereo use.
If
>I'm going to use it in any serious way on a stereo bus, I'm going to have
to
>get the calibration equalled out. Definitely give me some ideas though.
>Hi Gary, I had to replace mine because it died, so I've been through this.
The power supply has to be an older one because it has to be able to have
no load on the 12 volt lead. PCPowerAndCooling.com at least used to have
refurbished units for sale that would be quiet and fit the specs.
Hope this helps.
Mike
"Gary Flanigan" <garyf_94103@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I have an Avid branded 7 slot Magma expansion chassis. Since the power
supply
>sounds much like a jet aircraft, I am going to replace it. I've identified
>(I think) that it require an ATX 300 watt PS, and it needs three 4 pin molex
>connectors and a 20 pin connecter to the motherboard. All of this is provided
>by the quiet PS I am looking at, and the PS form factor is the same.
>
>However, right next to the 20 pin mb connector is a small 3 pin connector
>as well. What is this called?
>
>Thanks for any help.Neil, although I have not used Mel, the one in Sam is similar and I
agree the graphic type and the auto type both have their places and are
not interchangeable.
Neil wrote:
> Well, it wouldn't hurt to check out both if you can. I'm not
> saying one's necessarily better than the other all-around, but
> rather that it more or less kinda depends on the application.
> At least in my view.
>
> I'm kinda glad I have both, to be quite honest. I'm doing
> a jingle tomorrow where I'll be tracking a female singer that I
> used a gentle Auto-Tune setting on before & it worked great,
> but in this particular case I envision having to use Melodyne
> because I think the key of this jingle is right at the very top
> of her range... hence possibly needing more pitch correction on
> a few notes, like when she has to hit it high with power (and we
> all know this usally means singers going flat near the upper
> envelopes of their ranges). So again, glad I have both options.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>> Good info Neil. I was looking hard at Melodyne, but from your analysis here,
>
>> I think Autotune5 would more closely fit my needs. thanks. You probaby just
>
>> saved me a couple of C notes.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a16061@linux...
>>> I've used Auto-Tune for some time now - still have V1-point-
>>> something on Floppy disks, in fact; and now am on v5-point-
>>> whatever, but hadn't tried Melodyne until a few months ago.
>>> Had the occasion recently to do a good deal of work on a
>>> vocalist who needed a bit more correction than what I could get
>>> out of A-T without it really sounding like an Auto-Tuned
>>> vocal... if you know what I mean. Tried the Melodyne Plugin &
>>> it was the ticket in this particular case. I know we've had a
>>> couple of threads on this topic over time, so, based on having
>>> done a few songs with it now, I now offer up my take on one vs.
>>> the other:
>>>
>>> 1.) If you need a little bit of gentle correction, Auto-Tune 5
>>> on autopilot is definitely the way to go - from what I can
>>> tell, A-T passes more of the unadulterated qualities of the
>>> signal through, while Melodyne EVEN IF YOU DON'T APPLY ANY
>>> CHANGES TO THE NOTE will sound altered - it's not a harmonic
>>> kind of alteration like AutoTune doing a severe correction
>>> would display, but it's almost as if it "rounds out" the sound
>>> a bit... maybe takes a bit of the edge or air off. It's not
>>> severe, but it's noticeable. AT5 sounds really fucking good, by
>>> the way, and has a couple of features that previous versions did
>>> not, such as "Humanize", which, when used in gentle degrees can
>>> sound good, and an option where you can set the pitch
>>> correction to ignore vibrato - something that's VERY useful in
>>> the case of any singers who have a wide vibrato!
>>>
>>> 2.) If you need more serious pitch correction, then Melodyne is
>>> the way to go - in this type of application it displays LESS
>>> artifacts than does Auto-Tune.
>>>
>>> A couple other observations:
>>>
>>> a.) Melodyne can also adjust/alter timing, ether automatically
>>> (not recommended, IME) or manually (better - if you need to do
>>> it at all).
>>>
>>> b.) Melodyne does not handle "noise" as well as Auto-Tune
>>> does... for example, if you have a nice, clean vocal track -
>>> someone singing softly through a clean mic & preamp, it may not
>>> make much of a difference; but if you have someone singing a
>>> typical rock, country rock, or if you're recording Tom Waits,
>>> you may have some problems with Melodyne... especially if you're
>>> tracking Tom Waits through a u-67 & a nice woolly Neve preamp -
>>> - get my drift? Let's say Tom sings the phrase: "Baton Rouge"
>>> and phonetically it sounds something like: "Brhaagghtnn
>>> Hrooozzgzzzh", then you, my friend, are going to have a lot of
>>> noise/non-note kind of artifacts that Melodyne will not know
>>> how to deal with. This includes breaths, by the way, so a
>>> breathy female vocal may also give you fits. It'll be up to you
>>> to do one of two things with those short bursts of noise that
>>> Melodyne will be incapable of recognizing as notes:
>>> 1.) Leave 'em where they are & don't try to correct the pitch
>>> on 'em & just hope it works.. or: 2.) manually edit those
>>> artifacts out of the Melodyne display screen & extend the note
>>> right in front of or right behind were it was to take it's
>>> place. If you haven't worked with Melodyne yet, then you
>>> obviously don't know exactly what I mean by that, but suffice
>>> it to say this can be laborious on some singers & genres.
>>> I would suggest trying "1" before automatically jumping to
>>> option # "2" - you may find that some of the noise bits are OK,
>>> leaving you only to have to manually tweak the remainder.
>>>
>>> Final Tip:
>>> When using Melodyne, ALWAYS make sure to set the record path to
>>> a new subfolder you can create within the project directory or
>>> folder tree - don't use the default. In this manner (setting
>>> the record path yourself), the Melodyne files aways go with the
>>> project, even when you back it up, archive it, etc.
>>>
>>> Anyway, just some observations.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>Deej -
I hear what you're saying. I go back and forth searching for both a
flexible DAW (or multi-DAW) studio and a functional analog one.
Currently, I am leaning towards the computer solution, with a digital
mixer at the center of it all and select outboard gear. The spectrum
of affordable plugins and VST instruments makes this a pretty simple
decision, and hopefully, the addition of my new digital mixer/control
surface will bring the tactile control that mousing it just lacks.
On the shameless plug side, if you are interested in a pair of
excellent, 4-band parametric EQs, I am selling two Speck ASCs. Give me
a ping of you (or anyone else reading this) would like more
information.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:53:01 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm strapping
>a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This compressor is a
>little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a lot of the BIG
>thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too, but the more I go to
>the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the work that goes with
>it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for with this new system. I
>can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and the hardware just provides a
>different level coutour and dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think a
>lot of it has to do with the genre I'm working wit-lots of
>folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks
>with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics on
>it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style country
>music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds to what I'm
>looking for.
>
>I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
>If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and 4
>x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
>
>;o)
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
>If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and
4
>x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
I've been thiking about hardware comps for use across the
2-buss, as well, and one of the ones that I've been eyballing
is the Cranesong STC-8. They go for about $3800 street. I
noticed that Brad Blackwood at Euphonic Mastering uses one, so
I e-mailed him about it, and one of the things he said was - and
I quote: "I suggest you try one out for yourself, but be
prepared to buy it". So now I'm scared to try one until I'm
ready to cough up that much cash! lol
Deej, the Vari-Mu might be a little dark or soft-ish for your
needs... I've played around with one before, and that's the way
it came across to my ears. Worth trying, though, and maybe I'm
wrong, but I'm just thinking about the genres you normally work
in with combinations of acoustic guitars, banjos, mandolins,
fiddles, etc., each with lots of diffeet kinds of subtle hi-end
character, might not be best served by that particular unit.
Then again, if you're looking for yet another "warmth
machine", the Vari-Mu might be right up your alley.
NeilNeil, that logic does not quite track for me. I understand your idea
that at least you can control the initial media and you are doing
everything within your scope to improve the final sound. But IMHO the
difference is far too slight.
The better the reproduction the better able we are to hear a difference
in any part of the audio path, right? Thence the worse the reproduction
the less difference can be heard and the less significant it becomes.
I believe the return is too insignificant for Sarah to go through the
trouble of switching to another rig if the end product is to be replayed
through a 128 mp3 codec.
OTOH if you are doing music that people will hear on really good quality
systems, then darn right one should use high quality media files throughout.
Neil wrote:
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> Yeah, well it certainly makes logical sense that the higher resolutions
>
>> would provide a more detailed translation back into audible sound, maybe
> I
>> just doubt my own ability to hear those details.
>>
>> What about the fact that so many consumers now are listening to massively
>
>> squished versions of all that resolution (mp3, iTunes, etc)? Do you think
>
>> the sonic elements provided by the higher resolution survive the squishing?
>
> I think that's even more reason to start out with the highest-
> possible quality that you're able to.
>
> Neil
>
>Midi and I was having to do too many workarounds for plug latency. I
went to a mixer also because I wanted the full studio infrastructure of
a console.
Mikep wrote:
> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans PT)
> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>
> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>
>Hey DJ,
I can get that vibe with using the Waves SSL (Stereo) comp. It has that "glue"
and slamming vibe missing in Nuendo. Now, I can mix in Nuendo almost like
I can in Paris just by inserting the SSL Stereo comp on the master buss..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I've been remixing a track that I recently mixed but this time I'm strapping
>a Demeter VTCL stereo comp after the Portico 5042. This compressor is a
>little bit fussy, but with a little work, it can create a lot of the BIG
>thing. I've got plenty of plugins that can do this too, but the more I go
to
>the effort to use hardware (and deal with all of the work that goes with
>it), the closer I get to what I've been looking for with this new system.
I
>can A/B hardware vs plugins on the mix bus and the hardware just provides
a
>different level coutour and dimensionaliy to the sound. More 3D. I think
a
>lot of it has to do with the genre I'm working wit-lots of
>folky/country'esque sounding acoustic guitar, fiddle and mandolin tracks
>with electric bass and a full drum kit with 10 mics on
>it..................more like the Dirt Band than Nashville style country
>music. The more hardware I add to the mix, the closer it sounds to what
I'm
>looking for.
>
>I can see a VariMu and a Nightpro EQ in my future somewhere down the road.
>If I had a those, a Massive Passive, a couple of LA-2A's, 4 x 1176's and
4
>x LA-3A's, I'd be happy......well .......maybe....for a little while.
>
>;o)
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Neil, that logic does not quite track for me. I understand
>your idea that at least you can control the initial media and
>you are doing everything within your scope to improve the
>final sound. But IMHO the difference is far too slight.
It probably IS slight. - again, the only way to verify would be
to track a project from scratch on identical DAW's running at
different samplerates & take each one all the way down to the
mp3 encoding level, and then a/b them at that stage. But then
again, isn't so much of what we do or try or buy based on
getting a SLIGHT improvement on something? How many mics or
preamps or plugin's have you bought that give you a DRAMATIC
difference over what you were using before in a particular
application? Probably not many unless you were using absolute
crap before & went to something really top-shelf. How many, on
the other hand, have given you a slight improvement that you
were happy with? Probably a lot more!
>I believe the return is too insignificant for Sarah to go
>through the trouble of switching to another rig if the end
>product is to be replayed through a 128 mp3 codec.
Hey, I'm not trying to get anyone to switch to anything... I'm
just responding to questions as to why I went with the methods
I've chosen. If my responses are so compelling that they sound
like urges to convert when they're not intended to be, then
maybe it's just the truth shining through & making you feel
that urge! lol BTW, if we're all convinced that the MP3
standard is what we're realy engineering for, then why doesn't
everyone just record in 16/44 MP3 to begin with? No need for
conversion in samplerate, bitrate reduction, or encoding of ANY
kind, so the argument could then be made that it would come out
even better in the end! Chew on that one for awhile.
>OTOH if you are doing music that people will hear on really
>good quality systems, then darn right one should use high
>quality media files throughout.
Look, I've always maintained - and I've said it here on this
NG - that great music has been recorded on nearly every
possible format & under almost every possible condition...
a slight sonic difference isn't going to make or break a song
or a CD.... Eurythmics "Sweet Dreams" - recorded on an 8-track
in their apartment - sounds fine and was a major hit.
This is not about catering to the high-end audio crowd or
taking the "if it's going to end up on mp3 then it doesn't
matter" approach, either - nor is it about any increment in
between those two extremes... for me it's about trying to find
a certain texture & dimension; to me these higher sample rates
just sound more natural & more open, and dare I say
more "analog".... because remember - there's no Nyquist
frequency in analog. ;)
NeilYou like Pro Tools editing over Nuendo's?? And you liek Pro Toosl workflow
over Neundo??
I've never heard anyone who really used the 2 DAWs state that. Even the most
ardent Pro Tools users. They will readily admit, that Neundo/SX workflow
and editing is in another league.
Just look at each update to Pro Tools now 7.3. Each update icorporates more
and more Neundo/SX liek features .. Pro Tools workflow is still not there
yet.. Yes, they have added the right-mouse clicks for gettign to menus, but
not as deep as Neundo/SX..
And , Pro Tools (conforming) mouse still is not as slick or fast as Paris.
I have Pro Tools and use HDAcel at the studio in our church, and I'm always
amazed at how it reconized as the DAW leader. I'm not that impressed
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>
>I loved Paris for tracking and mixing, but it started to tick me off--numerous
>bugs, lockups, plugins not working properly, mixes bouncing differently
than
>how I mixed them on larger projects, etc. I just couldn't deal with it
anymore,
>fortunately at that time I was taking a break from doing studio work and
>left it behind. I then picked up a Nuendo rig for live recording, I liked
>it...but wasn't in-love with the workflow. Since then, I've put in a pair
>of ProToolsHD3 Accel systems with a Control24 and couldn't be happier.
>
>Brad Lyons
>www.audioandmidi.com
>
>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>
>>I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>PT)
>>and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>>looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>
>>Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>
>>
>Hehe!!!!!...........you mean like the one I sent back because I thought the
UAD-1 33609 could fill it's shoes? I was thinking last night what a dumbass
move that was ;o). I did finally get something I could live with by driving
the Portico 5042 line outs fairly aggressively into a UAD-1 Fairchild,
followed by the Precision Limiter.
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:46a35409$1@linux...
>
> 5043
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Unfortunately, the Demeter comp isn't properly calibrated for stereo use.
> If
>>I'm going to use it in any serious way on a stereo bus, I'm going to have
> to
>>get the calibration equalled out. Definitely give me some ideas though.
>>
>Well put, Neil. I don't think we are really talking apples and apples,
but I also don't think the difference is even worth arguing about.
That's the kind of mood I'm in.
There actually could be a fairily simple way tocompare projects: take
one recorded and mixed at 88 or 96 and knock the tracks down to 44.1
with a good converter and run the mix again. Not perfectly scientific,
but it would satisfy me I suppose. Have you got a mix you could do that
with?
Neil wrote:
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> Neil, that logic does not quite track for me. I understand
>> your idea that at least you can control the initial media and
>> you are doing everything within your scope to improve the
>> final sound. But IMHO the difference is far too slight.
>
> It probably IS slight. - again, the only way to verify would be
> to track a project from scratch on identical DAW's running at
> different samplerates & take each one all the way down to the
> mp3 encoding level, and then a/b them at that stage. But then
> again, isn't so much of what we do or try or buy based on
> getting a SLIGHT improvement on something? How many mics or
> preamps or plugin's have you bought that give you a DRAMATIC
> difference over what you were using before in a particular
> application? Probably not many unless you were using absolute
> crap before & went to something really top-shelf. How many, on
> the other hand, have given you a slight improvement that you
> were happy with? Probably a lot more!
>
>> I believe the return is too insignificant for Sarah to go
>> through the trouble of switching to another rig if the end
>> product is to be replayed through a 128 mp3 codec.
>
> Hey, I'm not trying to get anyone to switch to anything... I'm
> just responding to questions as to why I went with the methods
> I've chosen. If my responses are so compelling that they sound
> like urges to convert when they're not intended to be, then
> maybe it's just the truth shining through & making you feel
> that urge! lol BTW, if we're all convinced that the MP3
> standard is what we're realy engineering for, then why doesn't
> everyone just record in 16/44 MP3 to begin with? No need for
> conversion in samplerate, bitrate reduction, or encoding of ANY
> kind, so the argument could then be made that it would come out
> even better in the end! Chew on that one for awhile.
>
>> OTOH if you are doing music that people will hear on really
>> good quality systems, then darn right one should use high
>> quality media files throughout.
>
> Look, I've always maintained - and I've said it here on this
> NG - that great music has been recorded on nearly every
> possible format & under almost every possible condition...
> a slight sonic difference isn't going to make or break a song
> or a CD.... Eurythmics "Sweet Dreams" - recorded on an 8-track
> in their apartment - sounds fine and was a major hit.
> This is not about catering to the high-end audio crowd or
> taking the "if it's going to end up on mp3 then it doesn't
> matter" approach, either - nor is it about any increment in
> between those two extremes... for me it's about trying to find
> a certain texture & dimension; to me these higher sample rates
> just sound more natural & more open, and dare I say
> more "analog".... because remember - there's no Nyquist
> frequency in analog. ;)
>
> NeilBill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Well put, Neil. I don't think we are really talking apples and
apples,
>but I also don't think the difference is even worth arguing about.
>That's the kind of mood I'm in.
You're just in a contrary state of mind - that's fine, let's
go... we're not insulting each other over this, so I'm
happy to argue semantics & philosophy with regard to samplerate
& resolution.
>There actually could be a fairily simple way to compare
>projects: take one recorded and mixed at 88 or 96 and knock
>the tracks down to 44.1 with a good converter and run the mix
>again. Not perfectly scientific, but it would satisfy me I
>suppose.
This wouldn't really be a fair test, IMO, it would be adding
another conversion step to the 44.1 files - you'd be rounding
off two samples worth of 88.2k to produce each 44.1k event
as opposed to grabbing two original/accurate 44.1's of the said
event. IOW, I'm an 88.2k proponent and I wouldn't trust this as
a fair comparison, or else I would've done so already.
>Have you got a mix you could do that with?
Yes, but Lamont would just accuse me of purposely manipulating
the 44.1k version to sound worse. :)
NeilOh, and apart frm the samplerate resolution, another reason
that it wouldn't be a fair comparison is that the downconverted
44.1k files inthis case WOULD have frequency content that
contained lower-order harmonics of data that was originally
above 22k in them, since they started out as 88.2k files,
whereas if you started out tracking at 44.1k, they wouldn't
have any of this content.
Neil
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>Well put, Neil. I don't think we are really talking apples and
>apples,
>>but I also don't think the difference is even worth arguing about.
>>That's the kind of mood I'm in.
>
>You're just in a contrary state of mind - that's fine, let's
>go... we're not insulting each other over this, so I'm
>happy to argue semantics & philosophy with regard to samplerate
>& resolution.
>
>>There actually could be a fairily simple way to compare
>>projects: take one recorded and mixed at 88 or 96 and knock
>>the tracks down to 44.1 with a good converter and run the mix
>>again. Not perfectly scientific, but it would satisfy me I
>>suppose.
>
>This wouldn't really be a fair test, IMO, it would be adding
>another conversion step to the 44.1 files - you'd be rounding
>off two samples worth of 88.2k to produce each 44.1k event
>as opposed to grabbing two original/accurate 44.1's of the said
>event. IOW, I'm an 88.2k proponent and I wouldn't trust this as
>a fair comparison, or else I would've done so already.
>
>>Have you got a mix you could do that with?
>
>Yes, but Lamont would just accuse me of purposely manipulating
>the 44.1k version to sound worse. :)
>
>NeilDo any of you have or know how to reset the Sony HR-MP5 processor? I have
two of them. Neither of them will fire up. I have replaced the lithium
battery in both about two years ago but have had them shut off and sitting
on the shelf for about a year and a half. All I get is a very faint light
blue glow on the screen.
Is it possible that even though the lithium batteries were new, 1 1/2 years
is just too long to sit on the shelf? or Does it need to be reset? How?
SteveNo native here, though I sometimes export wavs to my 002R to do some things
like melodyne and AT5 that is not on my Paris rig.
I am kinda old school--don't use MIDI, like the low latency of Paris so I
use lots of analog inserts on tracks etc...
That said, I am shopping for an HD3 rig for the new studio (of course, that
is for the independent engineers, not me... :)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Hey John... are you using any native DAW software at all?
>Either integrated with Paris on a separate PC, or as a stand-
>alone app for certain projects? Just wondering.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>Who's leaving? :)
>>
>>Still love it--use it everyday and make a good living with it...
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> I haven't left it either, only augmented it. The reason I see will be
>midi,
>>
>>>virtual synths and higher sample rates. On the hardware side, when we
can
>>no
>>>longer get compatible motherboards or expansion chassis and all my stock
>>of
>>>them dies, it's time to get native full bore.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46a116f2$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>>
>>>> PT)
>>>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now,
>but
>>>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>>
>>>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Now if we could just get the marketing to flip flop so it follows the
reality of what you and many of us know about Nuendo vs. ProTools.
I completely agree - the workflow with PT always seemed a bit awkward (much
like Avid vs. Vegas, or even Avid vs. FCP to some degree).
Lamont - Nuendo 4 is just around the corner with some really nice updates -
new automation system for one.... maybe not a lot for music users, but a
nice update list for post.
Dedric
On 7/22/07 9:59 AM, in article 46a37ee9$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> You like Pro Tools editing over Nuendo's?? And you liek Pro Toosl workflow
> over Neundo??
>
> I've never heard anyone who really used the 2 DAWs state that. Even the most
> ardent Pro Tools users. They will readily admit, that Neundo/SX workflow
> and editing is in another league.
>
> Just look at each update to Pro Tools now 7.3. Each update icorporates more
> and more Neundo/SX liek features .. Pro Tools workflow is still not there
> yet.. Yes, they have added the right-mouse clicks for gettign to menus, but
> not as deep as Neundo/SX..
>
> And , Pro Tools (conforming) mouse still is not as slick or fast as Paris.
>
>
> I have Pro Tools and use HDAcel at the studio in our church, and I'm always
> amazed at how it reconized as the DAW leader. I'm not that impressed
>
> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>
>> I loved Paris for tracking and mixing, but it started to tick me
>> off--numerous
>> bugs, lockups, plugins not working properly, mixes bouncing differently
> than
>> how I mixed them on larger projects, etc. I just couldn't deal with it
> anymore,
>> fortunately at that time I was taking a break from doing studio work and
>> left it behind. I then picked up a Nuendo rig for live recording, I liked
>> it...but wasn't in-love with the workflow. Since then, I've put in a pair
>> of ProToolsHD3 Accel systems with a Control24 and couldn't be happier.
>
>>
>> Brad Lyons
>> www.audioandmidi.com
>>
>> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>> PT)
>>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>
>>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>>
>>>
>>
>OK, now I'm pretty sure you have not thought this through. Those
"lower-order harmonics of data....above 22k" would necessarily still be
there whether it was down-sampled or originally converted as 44.1. We
are talking about air pressure waves. The waves are either there or not.
They are not *attached* to the above 22K information, they are the
*result* of the above 22K information, which was there in the room when
the mic was used.
My guess is the reason that higher frequency content that is inaudible
to us makes a difference is because the lower order harmonics sound
wrong or out of place or even distorted in some way without the
continued contribution of the upper end data that originally caused
them. OR we can perceive the data in some way without actually hearing it.
Neil wrote:
> Oh, and apart frm the samplerate resolution, another reason
> that it wouldn't be a fair comparison is that the downconverted
> 44.1k files inthis case WOULD have frequency content that
> contained lower-order harmonics of data that was originally
> above 22k in them, since they started out as 88.2k files,
> whereas if you started out tracking at 44.1k, they wouldn't
> have any of this content.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>> Well put, Neil. I don't think we are really talking apples and
>> apples,
>>> but I also don't think the difference is even worth arguing about.
>>> That's the kind of mood I'm in.
>> You're just in a contrary state of mind - that's fine, let's
>> go... we're not insulting each other over this, so I'm
>> happy to argue semantics & philosophy with regard to samplerate
>> & resolution.
>>
>>> There actually could be a fairily simple way to compare
>>> projects: take one recorded and mixed at 88 or 96 and knock
>>> the tracks down to 44.1 with a good converter and run the mix
>>> again. Not perfectly scientific, but it would satisfy me I
>>> suppose.
>> This wouldn't really be a fair test, IMO, it would be adding
>> another conversion step to the 44.1 files - you'd be rounding
>> off two samples worth of 88.2k to produce each 44.1k event
>> as opposed to grabbing two original/accurate 44.1's of the said
>> event. IOW, I'm an 88.2k proponent and I wouldn't trust this as
>> a fair comparison, or else I would've done so already.
>>
>>> Have you got a mix you could do that with?
>> Yes, but Lamont would just accuse me of purposely manipulating
>> the 44.1k version to sound worse. :)
>>
>> Neil
>Oh, getting fiesty now, are you? :)
OK, try this... track something, anything, into your 44.1k DAW
of choice, using a matched pair of mics, and split it equitably
into two tracks - one that has a mic pre & an EQ engaged, but
no EQ tweaking done - let's call that track "A", and one that
has the same kind of mic pre and EQ engaged, but with a lo-pass
at 10k - let's call that track "B".
Now, play back both tracks, but route track "A" through the
same EQ & set your lo-pass at 10k just like you did when
tracking "B", and play both back. If you can say there's no
difference between the two tracks; IOW, the fact that track
"A" had content above the range that track "B" was allowed to
have from the get-go, regardless of what kind of content
they're allowed to pass on playback, then i'll quit arguing
with you about 44.1k vs. 88.2k (i'll still record at 88.2k,
i'll just quit arguing with you about it lol).
Neil
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>OK, now I'm pretty sure you have not thought this through. Those
>"lower-order harmonics of data....above 22k" would necessarily still be
>there whether it was down-sampled or originally converted as 44.1. We
>are talking about air pressure waves. The waves are either there or not.
>They are not *attached* to the above 22K information, they are the
>*result* of the above 22K information, which was there in the room when
>the mic was used.
>
>My guess is the reason that higher frequency content that is inaudible
>to us makes a difference is because the lower order harmonics sound
>wrong or out of place or even distorted in some way without the
>continued contribution of the upper end data that originally caused
>them. OR we can perceive the data in some way without actually hearing it.
>
>Neil wrote:
>> Oh, and apart frm the samplerate resolution, another reason
>> that it wouldn't be a fair comparison is that the downconverted
>> 44.1k files inthis case WOULD have frequency content that
>> contained lower-order harmonics of data that was originally
>> above 22k in them, since they started out as 88.2k files,
>> whereas if you started out tracking at 44.1k, they wouldn't
>> have any of this content.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>> Well put, Neil. I don't think we are really talking apples and
>>> apples,
>>>> but I also don't think the difference is even worth arguing about.
>>>> That's the kind of mood I'm in.
>>> You're just in a contrary state of mind - that's fine, let's
>>> go... we're not insulting each other over this, so I'm
>>> happy to argue semantics & philosophy with regard to samplerate
>>> & resolution.
>>>
>>>> There actually could be a fairily simple way to compare
>>>> projects: take one recorded and mixed at 88 or 96 and knock
>>>> the tracks down to 44.1 with a good converter and run the mix
>>>> again. Not perfectly scientific, but it would satisfy me I
>>>> suppose.
>>> This wouldn't really be a fair test, IMO, it would be adding
>>> another conversion step to the 44.1 files - you'd be rounding
>>> off two samples worth of 88.2k to produce each 44.1k event
>>> as opposed to grabbing two original/accurate 44.1's of the said
>>> event. IOW, I'm an 88.2k proponent and I wouldn't trust this as
>>> a fair comparison, or else I would've done so already.
>>>
>>>> Have you got a mix you could do that with?
>>> Yes, but Lamont would just accuse me of purposely manipulating
>>> the 44.1k version to sound worse. :)
>>>
>>> Neil
>>I'll also amplify & riff a bit on something you said:
"OR we can perceive the data in some way without actually
hearing it."
I've always believed this to be the case... there's a story
that Rupert Neve tells about how Geoff Emerick found a bad
channel in a Neve console that was being installed - I believe
it was at one of the AIR studios - upon testing, it turned out
that the channel had a bad capacitor that was oscillating at
slightly over 30k. Now, can we hear 30k? according to lots of
people, we can't - and maybe neither could Geoff; but have you
ever noticed how 60hz hits you in the groin, 80hz hits you in
the solar plexus, and 250hz hits you right in the throat? Crank
up Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" or "Downeaster
Alexa" sometime - that kick is hitting you right in the
throat... you can't listen to it too loud for too long! I have
no idea why TLA hit the frequency so hard, but in those songs
he sure did.
Maybe 30k hits you right in the 13th chakra or something like
that.
Neil
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Oh, getting fiesty now, are you? :)
>
>OK, try this... track something, anything, into your 44.1k DAW
>of choice, using a matched pair of mics, and split it equitably
>into two tracks - one that has a mic pre & an EQ engaged, but
>no EQ tweaking done - let's call that track "A", and one that
>has the same kind of mic pre and EQ engaged, but with a lo-pass
>at 10k - let's call that track "B".
>
>Now, play back both tracks, but route track "A" through the
>same EQ & set your lo-pass at 10k just like you did when
>tracking "B", and play both back. If you can say there's no
>difference between the two tracks; IOW, the fact that track
>"A" had content above the range that track "B" was allowed to
>have from the get-go, regardless of what kind of content
>they're allowed to pass on playback, then i'll quit arguing
>with you about 44.1k vs. 88.2k (i'll still record at 88.2k,
>i'll just quit arguing with you about it lol).
>
>Neil
>
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>OK, now I'm pretty sure you have not thought this through. Those
>>"lower-order harmonics of data....above 22k" would necessarily still be
>
>>there whether it was down-sampled or originally converted as 44.1. We
>>are talking about air pressure waves. The waves are either there or not.
>
>>They are not *attached* to the above 22K information, they are the
>>*result* of the above 22K information, which was there in the room when
>
>>the mic was used.
>>
>>My guess is the reason that higher frequency content that is inaudible
>>to us makes a difference is because the lower order harmonics sound
>>wrong or out of place or even distorted in some way without the
>>continued contribution of the upper end data that originally caused
>>them. OR we can perceive the data in some way without actually hearing
it.
>>
>>Neil wrote:
>>> Oh, and apart frm the samplerate resolution, another reason
>>> that it wouldn't be a fair comparison is that the downconverted
>>> 44.1k files inthis case WOULD have frequency content that
>>> contained lower-order harmonics of data that was originally
>>> above 22k in them, since they started out as 88.2k files,
>>> whereas if you started out tracking at 44.1k, they wouldn't
>>> have any of this content.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well put, Neil. I don't think we are really talking apples and
>>>> apples,
>>>>> but I also don't think the difference is even worth arguing about.
>>>>> That's the kind of mood I'm in.
>>>> You're just in a contrary state of mind - that's fine, let's
>>>> go... we're not insulting each other over this, so I'm
>>>> happy to argue semantics & philosophy with regard to samplerate
>>>> & resolution.
>>>>
>>>>> There actually could be a fairily simple way to compare
>>>>> projects: take one recorded and mixed at 88 or 96 and knock
>>>>> the tracks down to 44.1 with a good converter and run the mix
>>>>> again. Not perfectly scientific, but it would satisfy me I
>>>>> suppose.
>>>> This wouldn't really be a fair test, IMO, it would be adding
>>>> another conversion step to the 44.1 files - you'd be rounding
>>>> off two samples worth of 88.2k to produce each 44.1k event
>>>> as opposed to grabbing two original/accurate 44.1's of the said
>>>> event. IOW, I'm an 88.2k proponent and I wouldn't trust this as
>>>> a fair comparison, or else I would've done so already.
>>>>
>>>>> Have you got a mix you could do that with?
>>>> Yes, but Lamont would just accuse me of purposely manipulating
>>>> the 44.1k version to sound worse. :)
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>
>Hey, I'm not worried, just curious. Or maybe I don't want to be seen as
stubbornly old-fashioned. :)
And thank you.
Sarah
"erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote in message news:46a30a5e@linux...
> Your CD have great sonic qualities too, so why worry?
>
> Erling
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> skrev i melding news:46a29ad9@linux...
>> Yeah, well it certainly makes logical sense that the higher resolutions
>> would provide a more detailed translation back into audible sound, maybe
>> I just doubt my own ability to hear those details.
>>
>> What about the fact that so many consumers now are listening to massively
>> squished versions of all that resolution (mp3, iTunes, etc)? Do you
>> think the sonic elements provided by the higher resolution survive the
>> squishing?
>>
>> S
>
>I've had this problem ever since I moved to XP, but have only got time to
address it now:
When I launch paris, the boot up takes about a minute or so - checks
hardware plugs etc. That's all OK, but when I close or launch a project it
can take a minute or so to do its thing - its like a memory leak - anybody
ever had similar behaviour?
I have an ASUS P4P800 Deluxe w/ 3.2P4
1gig cosair ram
Task manager doesn't report any particular spikes while launching or closing
in either cpu or memory.
David.Probable everyone has it. As I understood it, the only way to deal with the
way paris was set up to see hardware in 'days of old' was to alter the start
up hardware scan. You may see some improvement by keeping the install path
as short as possible (IE, installing to C:\Paris instead of installing to
C:\Emu\Paris Pro... some have even just installed direct to the root, C:\).
I believe the issue was rooted in using the CPU to run the cycles. In those
days, we were using stuff like Celeron 300 MHz CPUs. Now we all have much
higher clock speeds, and the XP driver has built in timing loops, by
necessity. I also believe that this is the problem with running more than 1
adat card per MEC, but that is a personal theory and should be taken as
such.
AA
"espresso" <audio@espressodigital.com> wrote in message
news:46a42c90@linux...
> I've had this problem ever since I moved to XP, but have only got time to
> address it now:
> When I launch paris, the boot up takes about a minute or so - checks
> hardware plugs etc. That's all OK, but when I close or launch a project it
> can take a minute or so to do its thing - its like a memory leak - anybody
> ever had similar behaviour?
>
> I have an ASUS P4P800 Deluxe w/ 3.2P4
> 1gig cosair ram
>
> Task manager doesn't report any particular spikes while launching or
> closing in either cpu or memory.
>
> David.
>Anyone here ever used one? I was wondering about using this on the Cubase
mix bus.11.2...192 it'll sound the same...that's their charm.
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:11:57 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>I knew I was missing something. Also, is there a plugin that can make an
>88.2 sample rate sound as good as 44.1?
>
>;o)
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:sd94a352u0m2j1vrf94iist5s8somechl4@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:50:17 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
>> net> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm trying how to figure out how to program it.....
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You'll need a full patch manager loaded on a Core2Duo Vista machine,
>> integrated with UnReason and the SqeezeBoxVSTI.
>>
>> Only when you have that fully-integrated with Cubase, can you program
>> the Accordian.
>>
>> pab
>I don't know but when you find out, Steve, post here because I got one of'm
too and it went the same route. Would love to use it again... really cool
niche piece.
WMW
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:46a3b39c$1@linux...
>
> Do any of you have or know how to reset the Sony HR-MP5 processor? I have
> two of them. Neither of them will fire up. I have replaced the lithium
> battery in both about two years ago but have had them shut off and sitting
> on the shelf for about a year and a half. All I get is a very faint light
> blue glow on the screen.
> Is it possible that even though the lithium batteries were new, 1 1/2
> years
> is just too long to sit on the shelf? or Does it need to be reset? How?
> Steve
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Never used one, but keep in mind it's an opto unit... might be
too slow for some of your needs (like the faster-tempo bluegrass
stuff).
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I have gotten a lot further. Check out what a guy named les told me:
From: Les Lambert <les_lmbrtyahoo.co.uk>
Steve,
Replacing the battery requires a battery holder to be
fitted unless you can find an exact replacement. Nasty
job for someone in a hurry without the right parts to
hand. The board has to be completely disconnected to
make sure you don't stress the mini molex connectors.
I normally take all the panels off and tighten the
pots and sockets while I'm visiting.
Also worth checking the solder connections to the
power in socket and the jacks, they take a direct hit
when the unit slides off the top of the handle on your
Mesa Boogie.
I use a solid sleeved wire to convert the holder to
have pins which align with the holes in the board.
I've done a few, and you have to reset the device
after.
The lack of contrast is a give-away.
I failed to find the reset code immediately, but I
tried the typical 2 or 3 button press sequences.
Holding the BYPASS and EXIT buttons while powering up
erases all the user memory, andf everything looks
normal, saves to user memory etc. Could be wrong, mine
wasn't previously scrambled, but I'm 99% sure that's
it.
Then you need a dump of the presets you took before
the machine got too flaky. When new they have a
duplicate factory set, which I duped by copying all
the P patches into the U patches one by one, good for
testing the dump restore process which can be tedious
over the changing platforms over the years.
I've used Sounddiver mostly, but Cakewalk 3.0 did it
with sysx fine, although you can't see if the memory
is worth anything until you reload it in a machine.
My two MP5's got new backlights for Christmas, they
fade quickly when you leave them on for years at a
time.
MIDI-rakete.de had them, and lots of others. Good
service, decent pricesI tried a copy and paist and it didn't take so I will try again.
A guy named Les has given me a whole lot of great info:
From: Les Lambert <les_lmbrtyahoo.co.uk>
Hello Steve
Replacing the battery requires a battery holder to be
fitted unless you can find an exact replacement. Nasty
job for someone in a hurry without the right parts to
hand. The board has to be completely disconnected to
make sure you don't stress the mini molex connectors.
I normally take all the panels off and tighten the
pots and sockets while I'm visiting.
Also worth checking the solder connections to the
power in socket and the jacks, they take a direct hit
when the unit slides off the top of the handle on your
Mesa Boogie.
I use a solid sleeved wire to convert the holder to
have pins which align with the holes in the board.
I've done a few, and you have to reset the device
after.
The lack of contrast is a give-away.
I failed to find the reset code immediately, but I
tried the typical 2 or 3 button press sequences.
Holding the BYPASS and EXIT buttons while powering up
erases all the user memory, andf everything looks
normal, saves to user memory etc. Could be wrong, mine
wasn't previously scrambled, but I'm 99% sure that's
it.
Then you need a dump of the presets you took before
the machine got too flaky. When new they have a
duplicate factory set, which I duped by copying all
the P patches into the U patches one by one, good for
testing the dump restore process which can be tedious
over the changing platforms over the years.
I've used Sounddiver mostly, but Cakewalk 3.0 did it
with sysx fine, although you can't see if the memory
is worth anything until you reload it in a machine.
My two MP5's got new backlights for Christmas, they
fade quickly when you leave them on for years at a
time.
MIDI-rakete.de had them, and lots of others. Good
service, decent prices
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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>>Google and about 20 seconds showed this, hope it helps. I don't have one
>=
>>to test with so I don't know if it's valid, let us know?
>>
>>Product: Sony HR-MP5
>>Price Paid: US $255.00 used=20
>>Submitted 06/07/2001 at 10:23pm by Phil Frenz=20
>>Email: pfrenz at setnet<dot>net=20
>>
>>Ease of Use : 10=20
>>To reset hold in bypass and exit while powering up.
>>Takes care of most problems=20
>>
>> http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/S ony/HR-MP5/10=
>>/1
>>
>>AA
>>
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>><BODY>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Google and about 20 seconds showed =
>>this, hope it=20
>>helps. I don't have one to test with so I don't know if it's valid, let
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>>us=20
>>know?</FONT></DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Product: Sony HR-MP5<BR>Price Paid: US
>=
>>$255.00 used=20
>><BR>Submitted 06/07/2001 at 10:23pm by Phil Frenz <BR>Email: pfrenz at=20
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>>class=3Duser_rating>10</SPAN> </FONT>
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>>color=3D#ff0000>To=20
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>>problems</FONT></STRONG> </FONT></DIV>
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>>R-MP5/10/1"><FONT=20
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>>
>
>I have gotten a lot further. Check out what a guy named les told me:
>From: Les Lambert <les_lmbrtyahoo.co.uk>
>Steve,
>Replacing the battery requires a battery holder to be
>fitted unless you can find an exact replacement. Nasty
>job for someone in a hurry without the right parts to
>hand. The board has to be completely disconnected to
>make sure you don't stress the mini molex connectors.
>I normally take all the panels off and tighten the
>pots and sockets while I'm visiting.
> Also worth checking the solder connections to the
>power in socket and the jacks, they take a direct hit
>when the unit slides off the top of the handle on your
>Mesa Boogie.
> I use a solid sleeved wire to convert the holder to
>have pins which align with the holes in the board.
>I've done a few, and you have to reset the device
>after.
>The lack of contrast is a give-away.
>
>I failed to find the reset code immediately, but I
>tried the typical 2 or 3 button press sequences.
>
>Holding the BYPASS and EXIT buttons while powering up
>erases all the user memory, andf everything looks
>normal, saves to user memory etc. Could be wrong, mine
>wasn't previously scrambled, but I'm 99% sure that's
>it.
>
>
>Then you need a dump of the presets you took before
>the machine got too flaky. When new they have a
>duplicate factory set, which I duped by copying all
>the P patches into the U patches one by one, good for
>testing the dump restore process which can be tedious
>over the changing platforms over the years.
>I've used Sounddiver mostly, but Cakewalk 3.0 did it
>with sysx fine, although you can't see if the memory
>is worth anything until you reload it in a machine.
>
>My two MP5's got new backlights for Christmas, they
>fade quickly when you leave them on for years at a
>time.
>MIDI-rakete.de had them, and lots of others. Good
>service, decent prices
LesI hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time following
along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would there
be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.Never use the web interface. I pick it up in Thinderbird.
JH
Brad Lyons wrote:
> I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time following
> along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would there
> be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
> and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>
> http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>
> If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.I can read this forum just fine with Netscape...
David.
Brad Lyons wrote:
> I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time following
> along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would there
> be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
> and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>
> http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>
> If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.So is that a News Reader, or just a Web Browser that you're using?
Brad
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>I can read this forum just fine with Netscape...
>
>David.
>
>Brad Lyons wrote:
>> I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
following
>> along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
there
>> be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>> and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>
>> http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>
>> If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.The integrated news reader in V7.2
David.
Brad Lyons wrote:
> So is that a News Reader, or just a Web Browser that you're using?
>
> Brad
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>I can read this forum just fine with Netscape...
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Brad Lyons wrote:
>>
>>>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
>
> following
>
>>>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
>>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>
> there
>
>>>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>>>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>>
>>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>>
>>>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>
>Ah okay, thanks. Well, feel free to signup over at my forum for other chats
if you'd like :-)
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>The integrated news reader in V7.2
>
>David.
>
>Brad Lyons wrote:
>
>> So is that a News Reader, or just a Web Browser that you're using?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I can read this forum just fine with Netscape...
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Brad Lyons wrote:
>>>
>>>>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
>>
>> following
>>
>>>>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style
posting.
>>>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>>
>> there
>>
>>>>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>>>>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>>>
>>>>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>>
>>I know Michael Brauer (Coldplay etc) uses one in his mix buss chain--almost
no compression--more for the tube section and eq i believe...
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Anyone here ever used one? I was wondering about using this on the Cubase
>mix bus.
>
>I use them.. Okay as a pre . A bit noisy and EQ is not as surgical as others.
Not impressed..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Anyone here ever used one? I was wondering about using this on the Cubase
>mix bus.
>
>Can't wait..
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Now if we could just get the marketing to flip flop so it follows the
>reality of what you and many of us know about Nuendo vs. ProTools.
>
>I completely agree - the workflow with PT always seemed a bit awkward (much
>like Avid vs. Vegas, or even Avid vs. FCP to some degree).
>
>Lamont - Nuendo 4 is just around the corner with some really nice updates
-
>new automation system for one.... maybe not a lot for music users, but a
>nice update list for post.
>
>Dedric
>
>On 7/22/07 9:59 AM, in article 46a37ee9$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> You like Pro Tools editing over Nuendo's?? And you liek Pro Toosl workflow
>> over Neundo??
>>
>> I've never heard anyone who really used the 2 DAWs state that. Even the
most
>> ardent Pro Tools users. They will readily admit, that Neundo/SX workflow
>> and editing is in another league.
>>
>> Just look at each update to Pro Tools now 7.3. Each update icorporates
more
>> and more Neundo/SX liek features .. Pro Tools workflow is still not there
>> yet.. Yes, they have added the right-mouse clicks for gettign to menus,
but
>> not as deep as Neundo/SX..
>>
>> And , Pro Tools (conforming) mouse still is not as slick or fast as Paris.
>>
>>
>> I have Pro Tools and use HDAcel at the studio in our church, and I'm always
>> amazed at how it reconized as the DAW leader. I'm not that impressed
>>
>> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I loved Paris for tracking and mixing, but it started to tick me
>>> off--numerous
>>> bugs, lockups, plugins not working properly, mixes bouncing differently
>> than
>>> how I mixed them on larger projects, etc. I just couldn't deal with
it
>> anymore,
>>> fortunately at that time I was taking a break from doing studio work
and
>>> left it behind. I then picked up a Nuendo rig for live recording, I
liked
>>> it...but wasn't in-love with the workflow. Since then, I've put in a
pair
>>> of ProToolsHD3 Accel systems with a Control24 and couldn't be happier.
>>
>>>
>>> Brad Lyons
>>> www.audioandmidi.com
>>>
>>> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>>> PT)
>>>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now,
but
>>>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>>
>>>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Actually, the VT737 is the pre...the VT747 is a stereo compressor. ;-)
Brad Lyons
www.audioandmidi.com
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I use them.. Okay as a pre . A bit noisy and EQ is not as surgical as others.
>
>
>Not impressed..
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Anyone here ever used one? I was wondering about using this on the Cubase
>
>>mix bus.
>>
>>
>I've got a 737 and I use the compressor and EQ quite a bit as a mix insert.
The preamp is adequate but not something I'm in love with. The 737 makes an
absolutely stellar bass DI for tracking though.
;o)
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message
news:46a4ebdf$1@linux...
>
> Actually, the VT737 is the pre...the VT747 is a stereo compressor. ;-)
>
> Brad Lyons
> www.audioandmidi.com
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>I use them.. Okay as a pre . A bit noisy and EQ is not as surgical as
>>others.
>>
>>
>>Not impressed..
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>Anyone here ever used one? I was wondering about using this on the Cubase
>>
>>>mix bus.
>>>
>>>
>>
>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion of
the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
significant.
Here's a link:
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
Thanks,
DeejSounds great.. You can push it more for my taste :).. I did not hear the hiss..I'll
check again in the studio..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
to
>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
a
>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
of
>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>significant.
>
>Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
15
>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>
>Hello my beloved Parisian Friends
I'm an old Paris fellow from Sweden, been using Paris sins the start of it
all (almost).
Just bought the Liquid Mix for Nuendo and it's working like a dream, but
then I thought if UAD-1 could work in Paris why not try Liquid Mix as well.
Tried it, but I couldn't make it to work, and I just knew you fellows could
(in this fantastic forum) have the answer to this problem.
So could we make the Liquid Mix work in Paris?
Best regards
Mikael
SwedenOn 24 Jul 2007 01:19:47 +1000, "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com>
wrote:
>
>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time following
>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would there
>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>
>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>
>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
I have never used the web interface. I've been using Forte's Agent on
Usenet for as long as I can remember. Actually, I've been using it
since I first got online back in '93 or '94.
pabBrad,
Traditionally the issue has been that there are a lot of people here who
use the NNTP feature, and virtually none of these web forum based systems
allow NNTP. I have done a little surfing and if you want both it's pretty
hard to find something.
Also, if you're having trouble following threads, try pressing the "Related
items" button. This will narrow what's on screen to just items within your
current thread.
It is also actually possible for me to put this forum into a format more
similar to "normal" web forums, where all posts of a thread appear in a single
thread, however while it might simplify things, it's actually less functional
to my mind as you can't visually see who has replied to who (unless they
include a quote). Hence I've kept it as it is. I find the "related items"
works pretty well however in sorting out a complex thread.
JustCron had a web forum running for a while starting around the time Chuck
handed over the group. It never really kicked off. Too many people like the
NNTP feature.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>
>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time following
>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
there
>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>
>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>
>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.I pick up in Outlook Express, no issues reading posts here.
AA
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message
news:46a4c713$1@linux...
>
> I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
> following
> along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style
> posting.
> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
> there
> be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to
> navigate
> and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>
> http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>
> If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.I use the web based format here with zero problems...
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I pick up in Outlook Express, no issues reading posts here.
>AA
>
>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message
>news:46a4c713$1@linux...
>>
>> I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
>> following
>> along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style
>> posting.
>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>> there
>> be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to
>> navigate
>> and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>
>> http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>
>> If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>
>Yeah,I use the web based forum also. I actually like it better than the format
I see on other forums. Sort of comforting.
Rod
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>I use the web based format here with zero problems...
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I pick up in Outlook Express, no issues reading posts here.
>>AA
>>
>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message
>>news:46a4c713$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
>
>>> following
>>> along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style
>>> posting.
>>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>
>>> there
>>> be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to
>>> navigate
>>> and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>>
>>> http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>>
>>> If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>>
>>
>HI Mikael,
Paris uses and extremely old version of VST plug-in spec so I'm pretty
sure it will work properly.
Chris
Mikael Bergstrom wrote:
> Hello my beloved Parisian Friends
>
> I'm an old Paris fellow from Sweden, been using Paris sins the start of it
> all (almost).
>
> Just bought the Liquid Mix for Nuendo and it's working like a dream, but
> then I thought if UAD-1 could work in Paris why not try Liquid Mix as well.
> Tried it, but I couldn't make it to work, and I just knew you fellows could
> (in this fantastic forum) have the answer to this problem.
>
>
>
> So could we make the Liquid Mix work in Paris?
>
> Best regards
>
> Mikael
> Sweden
>
>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762I've replaced Paris with Nuendo on my main pc (xp) and am using Paris on
another box. Nuendo still recognizes 'Paris Midi' even though I've
tried to rip out all Paris related files by the freaking roots. Anyone
have an idea how to eradicate it? Is there some sort of file in Nuendo
that can be "refreshed" or otherwise cleaned out?
Thanks very much in advance,
JimI knew you were referring to that story. I don't disagree. My point was
just that whatever was happening in the lower band resulting from upper
frequency data would still be there if the upper data were not recorded.
Just the upper data would not be there. All I meant is that
down-sampling probably would yield a track very similar (though not the
same) to a track recorded at 44.1. So for purposes of experimentation on
a mix it would be acceptable to me.
On the EQ thing, who knows? Have you tried it? Besides, putting matched
mics on the same source is already such a variable the rest of the test
is useless. You knew that, but wondered if I would fall for it. Hah! I
ain't your sucker, bro.
Neil wrote:
> I'll also amplify & riff a bit on something you said:
>
> "OR we can perceive the data in some way without actually
> hearing it."
>
> I've always believed this to be the case... there's a story
> that Rupert Neve tells about how Geoff Emerick found a bad
> channel in a Neve console that was being installed - I believe
> it was at one of the AIR studios - upon testing, it turned out
> that the channel had a bad capacitor that was oscillating at
> slightly over 30k. Now, can we hear 30k? according to lots of
> people, we can't - and maybe neither could Geoff; but have you
> ever noticed how 60hz hits you in the groin, 80hz hits you in
> the solar plexus, and 250hz hits you right in the throat? Crank
> up Billy Joel's "We Didn't Start the Fire" or "Downeaster
> Alexa" sometime - that kick is hitting you right in the
> throat... you can't listen to it too loud for too long! I have
> no idea why TLA hit the frequency so hard, but in those songs
> he sure did.
>
> Maybe 30k hits you right in the 13th chakra or something like
> that.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> Oh, getting fiesty now, are you? :)
>>
>> OK, try this... track something, anything, into your 44.1k DAW
>> of choice, using a matched pair of mics, and split it equitably
>> into two tracks - one that has a mic pre & an EQ engaged, but
>> no EQ tweaking done - let's call that track "A", and one that
>> has the same kind of mic pre and EQ engaged, but with a lo-pass
>> at 10k - let's call that track "B".
>>
>> Now, play back both tracks, but route track "A" through the
>> same EQ & set your lo-pass at 10k just like you did when
>> tracking "B", and play both back. If you can say there's no
>> difference between the two tracks; IOW, the fact that track
>> "A" had content above the range that track "B" was allowed to
>> have from the get-go, regardless of what kind of content
>> they're allowed to pass on playback, then i'll quit arguing
>> with you about 44.1k vs. 88.2k (i'll still record at 88.2k,
>> i'll just quit arguing with you about it lol).
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>> OK, now I'm pretty sure you have not thought this through. Those
>>> "lower-order harmonics of data....above 22k" would necessarily still be
>>> there whether it was down-sampled or originally converted as 44.1. We
>>> are talking about air pressure waves. The waves are either there or not.
>>> They are not *attached* to the above 22K information, they are the
>>> *result* of the above 22K information, which was there in the room when
>>> the mic was used.
>>>
>>> My guess is the reason that higher frequency content that is inaudible
>
>>> to us makes a difference is because the lower order harmonics sound
>>> wrong or out of place or even distorted in some way without the
>>> continued contribution of the upper end data that originally caused
>>> them. OR we can perceive the data in some way without actually hearing
> it.
>>> Neil wrote:
>>>> Oh, and apart frm the samplerate resolution, another reason
>>>> that it wouldn't be a fair comparison is that the downconverted
>>>> 44.1k files inthis case WOULD have frequency content that
>>>> contained lower-order harmonics of data that was originally
>>>> above 22k in them, since they started out as 88.2k files,
>>>> whereas if you started out tracking at 44.1k, they wouldn't
>>>> have any of this content.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Well put, Neil. I don't think we are really talking apples and
>>>>> apples,
>>>>>> but I also don't think the difference is even worth arguing about.
>
>>>>>> That's the kind of mood I'm in.
>>>>> You're just in a contrary state of mind - that's fine, let's
>>>>> go... we're not insulting each other over this, so I'm
>>>>> happy to argue semantics & philosophy with regard to samplerate
>>>>> & resolution.
>>>>>
>>>>>> There actually could be a fairily simple way to compare
>>>>>> projects: take one recorded and mixed at 88 or 96 and knock
>>>>>> the tracks down to 44.1 with a good converter and run the mix
>>>>>> again. Not perfectly scientific, but it would satisfy me I
>>>>>> suppose.
>>>>> This wouldn't really be a fair test, IMO, it would be adding
>>>>> another conversion step to the 44.1 files - you'd be rounding
>>>>> off two samples worth of 88.2k to produce each 44.1k event
>>>>> as opposed to grabbing two original/accurate 44.1's of the said
>>>>> event. IOW, I'm an 88.2k proponent and I wouldn't trust this as
>>>>> a fair comparison, or else I would've done so already.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you got a mix you could do that with?
>>>>> Yes, but Lamont would just accuse me of purposely manipulating
>>>>> the 44.1k version to sound worse. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
DJ wrote:
> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion of
> the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
> if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
> significant.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
heard it as well).
Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
& be the one to find it! lol
Neil
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>
>DJ wrote:
>> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
to
>> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
>> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
a
>> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
my
>> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
of
>> the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
>> if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>> significant.
>>
>> Here's a link:
>>
>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>
>> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
the
>> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
15
>> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal
music you record over there... ;-)
David.
Neil wrote:
> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
> heard it as well).
>
> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
> & be the one to find it! lol
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>
>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>heard a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>prolly worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>
> to
>
>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
>
>
>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>
> a
>
>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>
> my
>
>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>
> of
>
>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm wondering
>
>
>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>
>
>>>significant.
>>>
>>>Here's a link:
>>>
>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>
>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>
> the
>
>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>
> 15
>
>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>
>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was definitely
contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
without.
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>record over there... ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Neil wrote:
>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>> heard it as well).
>>
>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I heard
>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>>
>> to
>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>>happen
>>
>>
>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>>
>> a
>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>
>> my
>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>>
>> of
>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>wondering
>>
>>
>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>
>>
>>>>significant.
>>>>
>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>
>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>
>> the
>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>>
>> 15
>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was definitely
>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>without.
>
>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>record over there... ;-)
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Neil wrote:
>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>> heard it as well).
>>>
>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I heard
>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>
>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying
>>>
>>> to
>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>>>happen
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling
>>>
>>> a
>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>
>>> my
>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
>>>
>>> of
>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>wondering
>>>
>>>
>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>
>>>
>>>>>significant.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>
>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>
>>> the
>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after
>>>
>>> 15
>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>
>For viewing, I use the web based forum and also Outlook Express. These are
accessed on two different computers and then the threads are both summed to
a third computer which pipes them at high speed to a Dell tech support guy
in India for correlative spell checking and verification before they are
returned to a 4th computer here where I answer the posts.
..
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:46a53b0b@linux...
>I pick up in Outlook Express, no issues reading posts here.
> AA
>
> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message
> news:46a4c713$1@linux...
>>
>> I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
>> following
>> along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style
>> posting.
>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>> there
>> be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to
>> navigate
>> and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>
>> http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>
>> If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>
>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the the
buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
sleepmixing.
;oP
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>
> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>
> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>
> Neil
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>definitely
>
>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>without.
>>
>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>
>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Neil wrote:
>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>
>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>heard
>
>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>
>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>
>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>trying
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>
>>>>>>happen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>>
>>>> my
>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>portion
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>wondering
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>after
>>>>
>>>> 15
>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)
David.
DJ wrote:
> maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the the
> buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
> this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
> send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
> sleepmixing.
>
> ;oP
>
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>
>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>
>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>definitely
>>
>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>without.
>>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>
>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>heard
>>
>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>
>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>
>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of
>>>>>
>>>>>my
>>>>>
>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>
>>>>>of
>>>>>
>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>after
>>>>>
>>>>>15
>>>>>
>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>To really understand what I'm going for here as far as the vocal, this is
the song I was asked to use as a relative "go by"
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197417/Tried-True-and-Teste d-mp3.html
;o)
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:46a56644$1@linux...
> Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>
>> maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>> the buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard.
>> Maybe this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the
>> damn send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>> sleepmixing.
>>
>> ;oP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>
>>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>
>>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>definitely
>>>
>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>without.
>>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>
>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>>heard
>>>
>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>prolly
>>>
>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>
>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>
>>>>>>15
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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---=_linux46a579fb--Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I knew you were referring to that story. I don't disagree. My point was
>just that whatever was happening in the lower band resulting from upper
>frequency data would still be there if the upper data were not recorded.
>Just the upper data would not be there. All I meant is that
>down-sampling probably would yield a track very similar (though not the
>same) to a track recorded at 44.1. So for purposes of experimentation on
>a mix it would be acceptable to me.
I'll see if I can find some time to convert a portion of a mix
& drop it into the same template... this would be a somewhat
time-consuming task, as I'd have to render all tracks from the
same start point, then convert/downsample afterward (otherwise
they wouldn't lock into the same sample position & things would
be off in terms of timing where punch-points are concerned), so
lemmesee if I can get some time to do this. I still don't think
it's an accurate comparison, but we'll see.
NeilDeej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
section I'm noticing it most.
It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.
Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
the
>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>sleepmixing.
>
>;oP
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>
>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>
>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>definitely
>>
>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>without.
>>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>
>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>heard
>>
>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's prolly
>>
>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>
>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
of
>>>>>
>>>>> my
>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing something
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
to
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>after
>>>>>
>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
happening throughout the piece if it's what you're referring
to? So are you hearing it, too?
But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!
Neil
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>I don’t think its noise; I think it’s a small amount of harmonic clipping
>in the 6-10K range. The track sounds very good overall, but there is a lot
>of information in the 8K range… Both peak and average. This could be caused
>by, or at least exaggerated by the MP3 conversion. Since you are using a
>file sharing service, why don’t you post the wave files.
>GeneDon't tell the singer, but I was using "Wasted away in Margaritaville"
at least for the middle section.
:-)
Jeff
J wrote:
> To really understand what I'm going for here as far as the vocal, this is
> the song I was asked to use as a relative "go by"
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197417/Tried-True-and-Teste d-mp3.html
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:46a56644$1@linux...
>
>>Warm that vocal up a tad while you're at it! ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>>>the buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard.
>>>Maybe this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the
>>>damn send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>>sleepmixing.
>>>
>>>;oP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>>
>>>>And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>>hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>>piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>>points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>>
>>>>Neil
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>>definitely
>>>>
>>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>>without.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>>
>>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neil wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>>someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>>this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>>engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>>heard it as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>>& be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>>>>>>>>heard
>>>>
>>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>>prolly
>>>>
>>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>15
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Okay, I got a new rig fired up and booting properly with Paris with XP =
Pro.
Here's what I've done so far:
1) I checked all SCSI cables and they turned out to be fine with
one EDS card. I did some finessing of the pins alignment.
2) Checked all clock and interconnect cables with two cards.
They all seem to be fine using the same A card attached to the 442
and four different B cards as Aaron suggested.
3) Tried four cards as card B and they seemed to work with no hardware
attached to them. Seemed good.
4) I tried to scale back to just one card to try each as an A card with =
the
442 attached but now Paris won't boot. Major badness.
It says:"An error occurred while reading the "Default Project" for new =
project settings.
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enough resources
available." I click that away and it then says:
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Two cards have given me the same results. I assume it's a driver =
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that
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usually.
I really don't have time for this crap (not that it's your fault) but =
it's making me rethink
everything all of the sudden.
Oh and since Paris hasn't been in front of Cubase feeding it ADAT WC I =
can't open any
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huh?
This is getting disgusting. Sorry for the attitude but I have no time, =
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Anything at this point would be better than what I've got.
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increase the cache, disk I/O and buffers again.
128/80/8/med or something like that always worked for me.
Change the settings with a text editor and restart Paris.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Okay, I got a new rig fired up and booting properly with Paris with XP Pro.
> Here's what I've done so far:
>
> 1) I checked all SCSI cables and they turned out to be fine with
> one EDS card. I did some finessing of the pins alignment.
>
> 2) Checked all clock and interconnect cables with two cards.
> They all seem to be fine using the same A card attached to the 442
> and four different B cards as Aaron suggested.
>
> 3) Tried four cards as card B and they seemed to work with no hardware
> attached to them. Seemed good.
>
> 4) I tried to scale back to just one card to try each as an A card with the
> 442 attached but now Paris won't boot. Major badness.
>
> It says:"An error occurred while reading the "Default Project" for new
> project settings.
> A new empty project will be created instead. There are not
> enough resources
> available." I click that away and it then says:
> "Error in creating new project. There are not enough resources
> available."
>
> The readme says to try reinstalling the Paris drivers. I did but no
> help there.
> Two cards have given me the same results. I assume it's a driver issue
> or something else. I tried reducing the cache size in Paris.cfg but that
> didn't help either. I am seeing the Paris MIDI driver and a single
> Scherzo.
> When I click the faulty Paris project away it takes Windows with it
> usually.
>
> I really don't have time for this crap (not that it's your fault) but
> it's making me rethink
> everything all of the sudden.
>
> Oh and since Paris hasn't been in front of Cubase feeding it ADAT WC I
> can't open any
> of my Cubase projects. I get a white screen and can go nowhere. Great huh?
> This is getting disgusting. Sorry for the attitude but I have no time,
> tons of gigs and
> studio work and I can't get either system to run.
>
> Anything at this point would be better than what I've got.
> Thanks for whatever you can come up with,
> Tom
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlTom,
It's 10pm pacific. I'll be up a couple hours so call me. DOn't know if
I can help much but I'll do what I can.
Jeff
503-704-3701
Bruhl wrote:
> Okay, I got a new rig fired up and booting properly with Paris with XP Pro.
> Here's what I've done so far:
>
> 1) I checked all SCSI cables and they turned out to be fine with
> one EDS card. I did some finessing of the pins alignment.
>
> 2) Checked all clock and interconnect cables with two cards.
> They all seem to be fine using the same A card attached to the 442
> and four different B cards as Aaron suggested.
>
> 3) Tried four cards as card B and they seemed to work with no hardware
> attached to them. Seemed good.
>
> 4) I tried to scale back to just one card to try each as an A card with the
> 442 attached but now Paris won't boot. Major badness.
>
> It says:"An error occurred while reading the "Default Project" for new
> project settings.
> A new empty project will be created instead. There are not
> enough resources
> available." I click that away and it then says:
> "Error in creating new project. There are not enough resources
> available."
>
> The readme says to try reinstalling the Paris drivers. I did but no
> help there.
> Two cards have given me the same results. I assume it's a driver issue
> or something else. I tried reducing the cache size in Paris.cfg but that
> didn't help either. I am seeing the Paris MIDI driver and a single
> Scherzo.
> When I click the faulty Paris project away it takes Windows with it
> usually.
>
> I really don't have time for this crap (not that it's your fault) but
> it's making me rethink
> everything all of the sudden.
>
> Oh and since Paris hasn't been in front of Cubase feeding it ADAT WC I
> can't open any
> of my Cubase projects. I get a white screen and can go nowhere. Great huh?
> This is getting disgusting. Sorry for the attitude but I have no time,
> tons of gigs and
> studio work and I can't get either system to run.
>
> Anything at this point would be better than what I've got.
> Thanks for whatever you can come up with,
> Tom
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlNeil,
It's a Quantec Yardstick. There is a Behringer SRC2496 format converter
interpatching it with an RME ADI4-DD unit which is interfacing another
SRC2496. The Behringers allow me to use the Quantec at 88.2 if need be, but
in this case it's AES>AES, with no format conversion happening. Two of these
are also being used to digitally interpatch my Roland R-880 which is
processing the vocal track.
Here's a link to the 16/44.1 .wav file.
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197440/Faith-In-Love-wav.ht ml
I have run this through every analyzer in Wavelab and it is showing no
digital problems at all. I'm going to go back an do some testing and
reevaluation of the reverbs.
Roland R-880 is on vocal, the Quantec is on guitars, mandolin snare and
OH's. A Lexicon PCM 91 is on the fiddles and a sony V77 (drumroom setting)
is processing the both kick tracks, both snare tracks, the OH's and the
electric bass. there is also a TC Elctronics D-2 processing the left panned
strings. All of these processors are digitally interfaced. they are all
clocked properly and the system is dead quiet when idling.
;o)
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a58149$1@linux...
>
> Deej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
> section I'm noticing it most.
>
> It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
> mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
> pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
> sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
> seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
> of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
> you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
> some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
> the
>>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
>
>>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
>
>>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>sleepmixing.
>>
>>;oP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>
>>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>
>>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>definitely
>>>
>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>without.
>>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music you
>>>
>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or I
>
>>>>>>>heard
>>>
>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>prolly
>>>
>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to
>>>
>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
> to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>
>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>">
> But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!
>
> Neil
>
Done. check the answer to your post above.
thanks,
Deej“Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
happening throughout the piece”
No. I hear periodic artifacts in MP3s all the time. Particularly in ones
I make.
“So are you hearing it, too?”
Yes..subtle. Not really broadband noise to me.
Gene
"Nei" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Geno, if it were a result of the mp3 conversion, wouldn't it be
>happening throughout the piece if it's what you're referring
>to? So are you hearing it, too?
>
>But yes, good idea, post the wav's on that filesharing thang!
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>I don’t think its noise; I think it’s a small amount of harmonic clipping
>>in the 6-10K range. The track sounds very good overall, but there is a
lot
>>of information in the 8K range… Both peak and average. This could be caused
>>by, or at least exaggerated by the MP3 conversion. Since you are using
a
>>file sharing service, why don’t you post the wave files.
>>Gene
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Tom,
does your Default project have a bunch of patching in the virtual =
patchbay? I've had the same message happen when I disconnected a MEC and =
I had previously had 4 x MECs with a default patch routing. with 3 x =
MECs, it freaked out because the patch routing was for 4 x MECs and it =
suddenly felt insecure and inadequate that it couldn't meet the needs of =
it's routing config with fewer resources available., I guess.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46a58928@linux...
Okay, I got a new rig fired up and booting properly with Paris with XP =
Pro.
Here's what I've done so far:
1) I checked all SCSI cables and they turned out to be fine with
one EDS card. I did some finessing of the pins alignment.
2) Checked all clock and interconnect cables with two cards.
They all seem to be fine using the same A card attached to the 442
and four different B cards as Aaron suggested.
3) Tried four cards as card B and they seemed to work with no hardware
attached to them. Seemed good.
4) I tried to scale back to just one card to try each as an A card =
with the
442 attached but now Paris won't boot. Major badness.
It says:"An error occurred while reading the "Default Project" for new =
project settings.
A new empty project will be created instead. There are not =
enough resources
available." I click that away and it then =
says:
"Error in creating new project. There are not enough resources =
available."
The readme says to try reinstalling the Paris drivers. I did but =
no help there.
Two cards have given me the same results. I assume it's a driver =
issue
or something else. I tried reducing the cache size in Paris.cfg =
but that
didn't help either. I am seeing the Paris MIDI driver and a single =
Scherzo.
When I click the faulty Paris project away it takes Windows with it =
usually.
I really don't have time for this crap (not that it's your fault) but =
it's making me rethink
everything all of the sudden.
Oh and since Paris hasn't been in front of Cubase feeding it ADAT WC I =
can't open any
of my Cubase projects. I get a white screen and can go nowhere. =
Great huh?
This is getting disgusting. Sorry for the attitude but I have no =
time, tons of gigs and=20
studio work and I can't get either system to run.
Anything at this point would be better than what I've got.
Thanks for whatever you can come up with,=20
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>does your Default project have a bunch =
of patching=20
in the virtual patchbay? I've had the same message happen when I =
disconnected a=20
MEC and I had previously had 4 x MECs with a default patch routing. with =
3 x=20
MECs, it freaked out because the patch routing was for 4 x MECs and it =
suddenly=20
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routing=20
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:46a58928@linux">news:46a58928@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Okay, I got a new rig fired up and =
booting=20
properly with Paris with XP Pro.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I've done so =
far:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) I checked all SCSI cables and they =
turned out=20
to be fine with</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> one EDS =
card. I did some=20
finessing of the pins alignment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2) Checked all clock and interconnect =
cables with=20
two cards.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> They all seem to =
be fine using=20
the same A card attached to the 442</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> and four different =
B cards as=20
Aaron suggested.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3) Tried four cards as card B and =
they seemed to=20
work with no hardware</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> attached to =
them. Seemed=20
good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4) I tried to scale back to just one =
card to try=20
each as an A card with the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> 442 attached but =
now Paris=20
won't boot. Major badness.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It says:"An error occurred while =
reading the=20
"Default Project" for new project settings.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p; A=20
new empty project will be created instead. There are not enough=20
resources</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> &nbs=
p;=20
=
available." &n=
bsp; =20
I click that away and it then says:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> "Error in creating new =
project. =20
There are not enough resources available."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> The readme says to try =
reinstalling=20
the Paris drivers. I did but no help there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Two cards have given me =
the same=20
results. I assume it's a driver issue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> or something else. =
I tried=20
reducing the cache size in Paris.cfg but that</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> didn't help either. I am =
seeing the=20
Paris MIDI driver and a single Scherzo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> When I click the faulty =
Paris=20
project away it takes Windows with it usually.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really don't have time for this =
crap (not that=20
it's your fault) but it's making me rethink</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>everything all of the =
sudden.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh and since Paris hasn't been in =
front of Cubase=20
feeding it ADAT WC I can't open any</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of my Cubase projects. I get a =
white screen=20
and can go nowhere. Great huh?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is getting disgusting. =
Sorry for the=20
attitude but I have no time, tons of gigs and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>studio work </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>and I=20
can't get either system to run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anything at this point would be =
better than what=20
I've got.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for whatever you can come up=20
with, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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and=20
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David,
I'll try that first.
Jeff,
Thanks and I might take you up on the offer.
DJ,
It's the default project for a 442 sending to 4 channels
so I'll delete all the patches and save it if I can get into the=20
project.
Thanks for the fast response you guys!
Tom
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
news:46a58a03$1@linux...
A fresh install zeros out your config file. Go in and=20
increase the cache, disk I/O and buffers again.
128/80/8/med or something like that always worked for me.=20
Change the settings with a text editor and restart Paris.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Okay, I got a new rig fired up and booting properly with Paris with =
XP Pro.
> Here's what I've done so far:
> =20
> 1) I checked all SCSI cables and they turned out to be fine with
> one EDS card. I did some finessing of the pins alignment.
> =20
> 2) Checked all clock and interconnect cables with two cards.
> They all seem to be fine using the same A card attached to the =
442
> and four different B cards as Aaron suggested.
> =20
> 3) Tried four cards as card B and they seemed to work with no =
hardware
> attached to them. Seemed good.
> =20
> 4) I tried to scale back to just one card to try each as an A card =
with the
> 442 attached but now Paris won't boot. Major badness.
> =20
> It says:"An error occurred while reading the "Default Project" for =
new=20
> project settings.
> A new empty project will be created instead. There are =
not=20
> enough resources
> available." I click that away and it then =
says:
> "Error in creating new project. There are not enough resources=20
> available."
> =20
> The readme says to try reinstalling the Paris drivers. I did but =
no=20
> help there.
> Two cards have given me the same results. I assume it's a driver =
issue
> or something else. I tried reducing the cache size in Paris.cfg =
but that
> didn't help either. I am seeing the Paris MIDI driver and a =
single=20
> Scherzo.
> When I click the faulty Paris project away it takes Windows with =
it=20
> usually.
> =20
> I really don't have time for this crap (not that it's your fault) =
but=20
> it's making me rethink
> everything all of the sudden.
> =20
> Oh and since Paris hasn't been in front of Cubase feeding it ADAT WC =
I=20
> can't open any
> of my Cubase projects. I get a white screen and can go nowhere. =
Great huh?
> This is getting disgusting. Sorry for the attitude but I have no =
time,=20
> tons of gigs and=20
> studio work and I can't get either system to run.
> =20
> Anything at this point would be better than what I've got.
> Thanks for whatever you can come up with,=20
> Tom
> =20
>=20
>=20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll try that first.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks and I might take you up on the=20
offer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DJ,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's the default project for a 442 =
sending to 4=20
channels</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>so I'll delete all the patches and save =
it if I can=20
get into the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>project.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the fast response you =
guys!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Dave(EK Sound)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca">audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:46a58a03$1@linux">news:46a58a03$1@linux</A>...</DIV>A =
fresh install=20
zeros out your config file. Go in and <BR>increase the cache, =
disk I/O=20
and buffers again.<BR><BR>128/80/8/med or something like that always =
worked=20
for me. <BR>Change the settings with a text editor and restart=20
Paris.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR><BR>> Okay, I got a =
new rig=20
fired up and booting properly with Paris with XP Pro.<BR>> Here's =
what I've=20
done so far:<BR>> <BR>> 1) I checked all SCSI cables and =
they=20
turned out to be fine with<BR>> one EDS =
card. I did=20
some finessing of the pins alignment.<BR>> <BR>> 2) =
Checked all=20
clock and interconnect cables with two =
cards.<BR>> =20
They all seem to be fine using the same A card attached to the=20
442<BR>> and four different B cards as =
Aaron=20
suggested.<BR>> <BR>> 3) Tried four cards as card B and =
they=20
seemed to work with no hardware<BR>> =
attached to=20
them. Seemed good.<BR>> <BR>> 4) I tried to scale =
back to=20
just one card to try each as an A card with=20
the<BR>> 442 attached but now Paris won't=20
boot. Major badness.<BR>> <BR>> It says:"An error =
occurred=20
while reading the "Default Project" for new <BR>> project=20
=
settings.<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &n=
bsp; =20
A new empty project will be created instead. There are not <BR>> =
enough=20
=
resources<BR> > &a mp;nbsp; &n=
bsp; =20
=
available." &n=
bsp; =20
I click that away and it then says:<BR>> "Error in =
creating new=20
project. There are not enough resources <BR>>=20
available."<BR>> <BR>> The readme says =
to try=20
reinstalling the Paris drivers. I did but no <BR>> help=20
there.<BR>> Two cards have given me the same=20
results. I assume it's a driver issue<BR>> =
or=20
something else. I tried reducing the cache size in Paris.cfg but =
that<BR>> didn't help either. I am seeing the =
Paris MIDI=20
driver and a single <BR>> Scherzo.<BR>> When I =
click=20
the faulty Paris project away it takes Windows with it <BR>>=20
usually.<BR>> <BR>> I really don't have time for this crap =
(not=20
that it's your fault) but <BR>> it's making me rethink<BR>> =
everything=20
all of the sudden.<BR>> <BR>> Oh and since Paris hasn't =
been in=20
front of Cubase feeding it ADAT WC I <BR>> can't open any<BR>> =
of my=20
Cubase projects. I get a white screen and can go nowhere. =
Great=20
huh?<BR>> This is getting disgusting. Sorry for the attitude =
but I=20
have no time, <BR>> tons of gigs and <BR>> studio work and I =
can't get=20
either system to run.<BR>> <BR>> Anything at this point =
would be=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C7CD92.6DF52490--OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
during the section I'm referring to).
FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
part, izallimsayin'.
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Neil,
>
>It's a Quantec Yardstick. There is a Behringer SRC2496 format converter
>interpatching it with an RME ADI4-DD unit which is interfacing another
>SRC2496. The Behringers allow me to use the Quantec at 88.2 if need be,
but
>in this case it's AES>AES, with no format conversion happening. Two of these
>are also being used to digitally interpatch my Roland R-880 which is
>processing the vocal track.
>
>Here's a link to the 16/44.1 .wav file.
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197440/Faith-In-Love-wav.ht ml
>
>I have run this through every analyzer in Wavelab and it is showing no
>digital problems at all. I'm going to go back an do some testing and
>reevaluation of the reverbs.
>
>Roland R-880 is on vocal, the Quantec is on guitars, mandolin snare and
>OH's. A Lexicon PCM 91 is on the fiddles and a sony V77 (drumroom setting)
>is processing the both kick tracks, both snare tracks, the OH's and the
>electric bass. there is also a TC Elctronics D-2 processing the left panned
>strings. All of these processors are digitally interfaced. they are all
>clocked properly and the system is dead quiet when idling.
>
>;o)
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a58149$1@linux...
>>
>> Deej, no he's not hitting the sidestick or snare at ALL in the
>> section I'm noticing it most.
>>
>> It could be something as a result of the send from the hat you
>> mentioned, but I don't hear it pulsing with the hat, it's
>> pretty steady in that small section until it drops out, and it
>> sounds like it's got a short fadeout to it, just a couple
>> seconds in length, so it COULD be an automated send to a piece
>> of outboard gear bringing some noise back into the system.
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, what piece of gear is the send that
>> you're referring to going to? Also, is it one that you're doing
>> some kind of format conversion on (SPDIF to AES, for example)?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>maybe so.........the area you mentioned hearing this is right before the
>> the
>>>buildup to the bridge and he's sidesticking that snare pretty hard. Maybe
>>
>>>this was what you were hearing. I also just found that I've got the damn
>>
>>>send enabled and cranked a bit on the hat too. WTF???....I must be
>>>sleepmixing.
>>>
>>>;oP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a56286@linux...
>>>>
>>>> HA! Was it most apparent in the sections that I mentioned?
>>>>
>>>> And Dave, if I'd blown my tweeters, I would be hearing the
>>>> hiss all the time, not just between certain sections of the
>>>> piece (which will remain unspecified until George Massenburg
>>>> points them out to the NG to prove my point! lol)
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>I did find a reverb send enabled on my bottom snare mic which was
>>>>>definitely
>>>>
>>>>>contributing some high end sizzle that this mix could definitely live
>>>>>without.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46a55fac$1@linux...
>>>>>>I think you've blown your tweeters with all that heavy metal music
you
>>>>
>>>>>>record over there... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, I'll step up & say that was the one who heard the hiss...
>>>>>>> someone else with Dynaudios, or Gennies or ADAM's, please check
>>>>>>> this out & tell me I'm not insane (BTW, I also had a non-
>>>>>>> engineering-type of person listen to this on my system & they
>>>>>>> heard it as well).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't make me force George Massenburg to have to listen to this
>>>>>>> & be the one to find it! lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I didn't hear any hiss. Sometimes the fiddle scraped a little, or
I
>>
>>>>>>>>heard
>>>>
>>>>>>>>a little tapping from the guitars or something. But my hearing's
>>>>>>>>prolly
>>>>
>>>>>>>>worse than yours. I use AKG 240s to tweak high end.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>DJ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm
>>>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs
to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>happen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm
>>>>>>>>>pushin/pulling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One
>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif
>>>>>>>>>portion
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
>>>>>>>>>wondering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
>>>>>>>>>something
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>significant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's a link:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you
>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and
>>
>>>>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 15
>>>>>>>>>seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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David,
Your suggestion didn't totally make sense to me.
Which part of the Config should be set to 8?
I've never used a number that low there.
I don't have the option to adjust to med either for some reason.
Not sure what that's about.
I can tell you one thing though, the Midi drivers are not installed.
I go to install them manually and it says no good. I am pointing it
at the Paris folder with all the goods in it. Maybe I have faulty =
drivers?
That would explain all the crap since after I reinstalled a week ago.
I'll go look on the web for the drivers I guess.
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure what that's =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can tell you one thing though, the =
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in it. =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That would explain all the crap since =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll go look on the web for the drivers =
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------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C7CD98.96A9EC30--Have you tried Liquid Mix with FXpansion 3.3 wrapper with Chainer, where 3.3
is only adressing to the Chainer map and Chainer is adressing to the map for
VST plugins? I havn't used Paris for years to recognize VSTplugins, only
this 3.3/Chainer combination, that's working nice in Paris for me.
Erling in Norway
"Mikael Bergstrom" <mikael.c.bergstrom@bredband.net> skrev i melding
news:46a522ed@linux...
> Hello my beloved Parisian Friends
>
> I'm an old Paris fellow from Sweden, been using Paris sins the start of it
> all (almost).
>
> Just bought the Liquid Mix for Nuendo and it's working like a dream, but
> then I thought if UAD-1 could work in Paris why not try Liquid Mix as
> well. Tried it, but I couldn't make it to work, and I just knew you
> fellows could (in this fantastic forum) have the answer to this problem.
>
>
>
> So could we make the Liquid Mix work in Paris?
>
> Best regards
>
> Mikael
> Sweden
>
>
>
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Okay everyone Jeff straightened me out right quick.
I had made a default project . . . As I now understand from
Jeff, that's the final stage after all is totally well with hardware,
plugins drivers etc.. Jeff had me remove the default project
and all was better.
So back to my final testing of cards and I'll keep you informed
on the next step with the Magma in a week or so.
I can at least sleep tonight knowing I have another trick up my
sleeve to harness Paris' unruly tendencies.
T.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46a59a24@linux...
David,
Your suggestion didn't totally make sense to me.
Which part of the Config should be set to 8?
I've never used a number that low there.
I don't have the option to adjust to med either for some reason.
Not sure what that's about.
I can tell you one thing though, the Midi drivers are not installed.
I go to install them manually and it says no good. I am pointing it
at the Paris folder with all the goods in it. Maybe I have faulty =
drivers?
That would explain all the crap since after I reinstalled a week ago.
I'll go look on the web for the drivers I guess.
Tom
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Okay everyone Jeff straightened me out =
right=20
quick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had made a default project . . =
.. As I now=20
understand from</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jeff, that's the final stage after all =
is totally=20
well with hardware,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>plugins drivers etc.. Jeff had me =
remove the=20
default project</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and all was better.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So back to my final testing of cards =
and I'll keep=20
you informed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on the next step with the Magma in a =
week or=20
so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can at least sleep tonight knowing I =
have another=20
trick up my</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sleeve to harness Paris' unruly=20
tendencies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
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in message=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your suggestion didn't totally make =
sense to=20
me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Which part of the Config should be =
set to=20
8?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've never used a number that low=20
there.</FONT></DIV>
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med either=20
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about.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can tell you one thing though, the =
Midi drivers=20
are not installed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I go to install them manually and it =
says no=20
good. I am pointing it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at the Paris folder with all the =
goods in=20
it. Maybe I have faulty drivers?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That would explain all the crap since =
after I=20
reinstalled a week ago.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll go look on the web for the =
drivers I=20
guess.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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On 24 Jul 2007 01:19:47 +1000, "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com>
wrote:
>
>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time following
>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would there
>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>
>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>
>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.phpBB does beat the crap out of most other newsgroups. I would like to see
Paris chat go to phpBB but I can't do it in 2 places."Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a59493$1@linux...
>
> OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
> it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
> right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
> file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
> on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
> during the section I'm referring to).
>
> FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
> recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
> part, izallimsayin'.
>
>
> Neil
>
I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen
and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case of
Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try to
keep it to around 72-75dB.
Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
;o)I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is probably
reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I personally
like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are particularly
clear and bright with no offending sibilance’s.
My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
the production is very good.
Gene
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen
>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
of
>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
to
>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>
>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>
>;o)
>
>
>Sleepmixing! You're a genius. Now I know how to get those extra hours in.Me too -- Agent only, going back 7 or 8 years now.
chas.
>
>I have never used the web interface. I've been using Forte's Agent on
>Usenet for as long as I can remember. Actually, I've been using it
>since I first got online back in '93 or '94.
>
>pabNo voice recognition interface for replies? Doood... Think of the
audio-to-text conversion possibilities...
-- disappointed, chas
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:19:40 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>For viewing, I use the web based forum and also Outlook Express. These are
>accessed on two different computers and then the threads are both summed to
>a third computer which pipes them at high speed to a Dell tech support guy
>in India for correlative spell checking and verification before they are
>returned to a 4th computer here where I answer the posts.
>
>.
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:46a53b0b@linux...
>>I pick up in Outlook Express, no issues reading posts here.
>> AA
>>
>> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote in message
>> news:46a4c713$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
>>> following
>>> along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style
>>> posting.
>>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>>> there
>>> be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to
>>> navigate
>>> and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>>
>>> http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>>
>>> If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>>
>>
>Hello Erling
Okej, I'll try that.
Best Regards
Mikael
"erlilo" <erlilo@nospamonline.no> wrote in message news:46a59dfb@linux...
> Have you tried Liquid Mix with FXpansion 3.3 wrapper with Chainer, where
> 3.3 is only adressing to the Chainer map and Chainer is adressing to the
> map for VST plugins? I havn't used Paris for years to recognize
> VSTplugins, only this 3.3/Chainer combination, that's working nice in
> Paris for me.
>
> Erling in Norway
>
> "Mikael Bergstrom" <mikael.c.bergstrom@bredband.net> skrev i melding
> news:46a522ed@linux...
>> Hello my beloved Parisian Friends
>>
>> I'm an old Paris fellow from Sweden, been using Paris sins the start of
>> it all (almost).
>>
>> Just bought the Liquid Mix for Nuendo and it's working like a dream, but
>> then I thought if UAD-1 could work in Paris why not try Liquid Mix as
>> well. Tried it, but I couldn't make it to work, and I just knew you
>> fellows could (in this fantastic forum) have the answer to this problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> So could we make the Liquid Mix work in Paris?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Mikael
>> Sweden
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>I used a outlook in the past and I use the web now, it works for me. recently
the DA7 news group switched from this type of NG to a new fancier type that
is more divided up in to many more subjects. Most people do not like the
new improved compartmentalized NG. It's more time consuming to try to read
threw all the post, you have to navigate and search more. Many people have
left that news group over it. Some times changing something doesn't make
it better.
We love the Paris NG the way it is. You can post what you want, such as
a meeting between your dog and a skunk and people can choose to read it or
not. After all, it would be hard to keep up with The life, times and adventures
of Deej with out this style of NG; ) I think the majority would agree that
we like things the way they are other wise we would have changed this NG
long ago, or moved on.
That's my thoughts.
James
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>
>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time following
>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
there
>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>
>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>
>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.Nothing personal Brad, but why does my suspicion radar go off when a sales
guy from Sweetwater wants to host a newsgroup for a dying platform, even
if he was a user before...
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I used a outlook in the past and I use the web now, it works for me. recently
>the DA7 news group switched from this type of NG to a new fancier type that
>is more divided up in to many more subjects. Most people do not like the
>new improved compartmentalized NG. It's more time consuming to try to read
>threw all the post, you have to navigate and search more. Many people have
>left that news group over it. Some times changing something doesn't make
>it better.
>
>We love the Paris NG the way it is. You can post what you want, such as
>a meeting between your dog and a skunk and people can choose to read it
or
>not. After all, it would be hard to keep up with The life, times and adventures
>of Deej with out this style of NG; ) I think the majority would agree
that
>we like things the way they are other wise we would have changed this NG
>long ago, or moved on.
>
>That's my thoughts.
>James
>
>
>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>
>>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time following
>>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>there
>>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>
>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>
>>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>So is there anybody with Liquid mix here, have you got this to work with a
wrapper?
Regards
Mikael
"Mikael Bergstrom" <mikael.c.bergstrom@bredband.net> wrote in message
news:46a522ed@linux...
> Hello my beloved Parisian Friends
>
> I'm an old Paris fellow from Sweden, been using Paris sins the start of it
> all (almost).
>
> Just bought the Liquid Mix for Nuendo and it's working like a dream, but
> then I thought if UAD-1 could work in Paris why not try Liquid Mix as
> well. Tried it, but I couldn't make it to work, and I just knew you
> fellows could (in this fantastic forum) have the answer to this problem.
>
>
>
> So could we make the Liquid Mix work in Paris?
>
> Best regards
>
> Mikael
> Sweden
>
>
>
>Hey Deej,
The package I sent you came back, wrong address. I must have screwed it up.
I also can't find your email. Is it the blah blah and animanix.net? Sorry
for the mixup, you have a book and a check ready to go if I can somehow not
bollox up the shipping.
TCBExactly my feeling
Ab
John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>Nothing personal Brad, but why does my suspicion radar go off when a sales
>guy from Sweetwater wants to host a newsgroup for a dying platform, even
>if he was a user before...
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I used a outlook in the past and I use the web now, it works for me. recently
>>the DA7 news group switched from this type of NG to a new fancier type
that
>>is more divided up in to many more subjects. Most people do not like the
>>new improved compartmentalized NG. It's more time consuming to try to
read
>>threw all the post, you have to navigate and search more. Many people
have
>>left that news group over it. Some times changing something doesn't make
>>it better.
>>
>>We love the Paris NG the way it is. You can post what you want, such as
>>a meeting between your dog and a skunk and people can choose to read it
>or
>>not. After all, it would be hard to keep up with The life, times and adventures
>>of Deej with out this style of NG; ) I think the majority would agree
>that
>>we like things the way they are other wise we would have changed this NG
>>long ago, or moved on.
>>
>>That's my thoughts.
>>James
>>
>>
>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
following
>>>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
>>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>>there
>>>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>>>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>>
>>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>>
>>>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46a674bc$1@linux...
>
> Hey Deej,
>
> The package I sent you came back, wrong address. I must have screwed it
> up.
> I also can't find your email. Is it the blah blah and animanix.net? Sorry
> for the mixup, you have a book and a check ready to go if I can somehow
> not
> bollox up the shipping.
>
> TCB
Hey thad,
check your "educational" address.
;o)Because it's your suspicion and not the reason I posted the thought.... I've
thought about this for years, actually. I figured since I checked in, I
might as well offer not knowing what the response would be. But then as
I think about it, it would be like the kids coming back from college only
to find you've moved away...."where'd everyone go?" :-)
Brad
"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>Nothing personal Brad, but why does my suspicion radar go off when a sales
>guy from Sweetwater wants to host a newsgroup for a dying platform, even
>if he was a user before...
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I used a outlook in the past and I use the web now, it works for me. recently
>>the DA7 news group switched from this type of NG to a new fancier type
that
>>is more divided up in to many more subjects. Most people do not like the
>>new improved compartmentalized NG. It's more time consuming to try to
read
>>threw all the post, you have to navigate and search more. Many people
have
>>left that news group over it. Some times changing something doesn't make
>>it better.
>>
>>We love the Paris NG the way it is. You can post what you want, such as
>>a meeting between your dog and a skunk and people can choose to read it
>or
>>not. After all, it would be hard to keep up with The life, times and adventures
>>of Deej with out this style of NG; ) I think the majority would agree
>that
>>we like things the way they are other wise we would have changed this NG
>>long ago, or moved on.
>>
>>That's my thoughts.
>>James
>>
>>
>>"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes here, but I have a hard-time
following
>>>along in the web-based chat because I'm used to Bulletin Board style posting.
>>> I have a new forum I just took online recently and was wondering would
>>there
>>>be interest to holding a forum over there that's a little easier to navigate
>>>and follow the threads? Here is the forum:
>>>
>>>http://www.audioandmidi.com/phpBB2/index.php
>>>
>>>If you're interested, I could create a dedicated section for Paris.
>>
>Gene, that's pretty much what i felt.
The drummer was letting the team down a little, ( and I'm not too fussed on
the actual snare sound), but that's purely an old farts personal opinion.
The other thing I was a little concerned over was the singers pitch some
times, and the (intrusive) fiddle in the first part of the piece.
Some nice recording and mixing though Deej.
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:46a6043d$1@linux...
>
> I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is
> probably
> reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
> as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
> ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
> I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I
> personally
> like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are
> particularly
> clear and bright with no offending sibilance’s.
> My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
> the production is very good.
> Gene
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a
>>listen
>
>>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
>
>>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
> of
>>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>
>>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
> to
>>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>>
>>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>
--"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:46a696a2$1@linux...
> Gene, that's pretty much what i felt.
> The drummer was letting the team down a little, ( and I'm not too fussed
> on the actual snare sound), but that's purely an old farts personal
> opinion.
> The other thing I was a little concerned over was the singers pitch some
> times, and the (intrusive) fiddle in the first part of the piece.
> Some nice recording and mixing though Deej.
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247
Heheh!!!.Thanks Martin. Funny how that fiddle at the beginning is so
controversial. Some folks love it and want it louder, others think it should
be lost altogether.
:o)
> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:46a6043d$1@linux...
>>
>> I took a few hours off to listen with fresh ears. The hiss I hear is
>> probably
>> reverb related and far below a point that I would have any issues with it
>> as a listener or as an engineer. The somewhat irritating (hard sounding)
>> ess-e-ness of the MP3 is gone in the waves version.
>> I like the mix and the recording. It still has more 8K-12K, than I
>> personally
>> like but it is a nice modern sounding recording. The vocals are
>> particularly
>> clear and bright with no offending sibilance’s.
>> My only real issue with this track is the drummer. In all other respects
>> the production is very good.
>> Gene
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a
>>>listen
>>
>>>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few
>>>years
>>
>>>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case
>> of
>>>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>>
>>>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try
>> to
>>>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>>>
>>>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
>
>Yeah go for it. I would love to hear it. I'm actually surprised we
haven't heard about someone already doing this very thing.
Neil wrote:
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> I knew you were referring to that story. I don't disagree. My point was
>
>> just that whatever was happening in the lower band resulting from upper
>
>> frequency data would still be there if the upper data were not recorded.
>
>> Just the upper data would not be there. All I meant is that
>> down-sampling probably would yield a track very similar (though not the
>
>> same) to a track recorded at 44.1. So for purposes of experimentation on
>
>> a mix it would be acceptable to me.
>
> I'll see if I can find some time to convert a portion of a mix
> & drop it into the same template... this would be a somewhat
> time-consuming task, as I'd have to render all tracks from the
> same start point, then convert/downsample afterward (otherwise
> they wouldn't lock into the same sample position & things would
> be off in terms of timing where punch-points are concerned), so
> lemmesee if I can get some time to do this. I still don't think
> it's an accurate comparison, but we'll see.
>
> Neilhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OQfGtJnBpgTwo friends of mine, who are excellent singer/songwriters, have
started their own production company for commercial music - jingles,
etc., plus recording their own material.
They're using Cubase SX3 plus Reason right now.
They need to step up from the Emu pci card they're using to a better
interface - and I think we all agree they need to go with something
firewire.
I've explained the whole process to them - DAW's are something new in
their experience - and they agree that the modular approach is best
and will allow them to upgrade as they get more money in the company.
So, for now, they want to get the I/O interface, then add a control
surface later, and then upgrade the I/O next time, possibly to an RME.
Right now, the budget is around $400. Can anyone recommend a halfway
decent 2ch or 4ch interface in that neighborhood that will work with
their software? Since it's only the two of them, they really only
record a max of 2 tracks at a pass, so two decent pre's are all that's
really needed for now.
Thanks.
pabOn Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:30:53 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OQfGtJnBpg
>
I hear a hit. Anyone else?
pabWhat a waste of three minutes of my life. lol
Neil
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:30:53 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
>net> wrote:
>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OQfGtJnBpg
>>
>
>I hear a hit. Anyone else?
>
>pabActually, I think it's probably God's last laugh, reincarnating Sam Kinison
as a fat idiot redneck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMjM7292eHk
Man.......I miss the 80's.
;o)
"Neil" <IUIU@OI.com> wrote in message news:46a6bca9$1@linux...
>
> What a waste of three minutes of my life. lol
>
> Neil
>
> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:30:53 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
>>net> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OQfGtJnBpg
>>>
>>
>>I hear a hit. Anyone else?
>>
>>pab
>Paul,
The TC Konnekt 8 or 24D should work well. I'm building a recording rig for
a voiceover artist I work with using this interface.
Can't comment on use yet as it's just spec'd for the rig - I'll probably be
getting it next week and testing it out. It's gotten good reviews for the
preamps (one reason I chose it - best pres for that price range it seems).
Regards,
Dedric
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:1mdda395s7arhoeoukkmocllpje4bqusue@4ax.com...
> Two friends of mine, who are excellent singer/songwriters, have
> started their own production company for commercial music - jingles,
> etc., plus recording their own material.
>
> They're using Cubase SX3 plus Reason right now.
>
> They need to step up from the Emu pci card they're using to a better
> interface - and I think we all agree they need to go with something
> firewire.
>
> I've explained the whole process to them - DAW's are something new in
> their experience - and they agree that the modular approach is best
> and will allow them to upgrade as they get more money in the company.
>
> So, for now, they want to get the I/O interface, then add a control
> surface later, and then upgrade the I/O next time, possibly to an RME.
>
> Right now, the budget is around $400. Can anyone recommend a halfway
> decent 2ch or 4ch interface in that neighborhood that will work with
> their software? Since it's only the two of them, they really only
> record a max of 2 tracks at a pass, so two decent pre's are all that's
> really needed for now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> pabThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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this one looks nice.............uhhhh...wait........you said four =
"hundred" dollars?=20
Nevermind.
How about :
http://www.zzounds.com/item--TCEKONNECT8
?
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message =
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> Two friends of mine, who are excellent singer/songwriters, have
> started their own production company for commercial music - jingles,
> etc., plus recording their own material.
>=20
> They're using Cubase SX3 plus Reason right now.
>=20
> They need to step up from the Emu pci card they're using to a better
> interface - and I think we all agree they need to go with something
> firewire.
>=20
> I've explained the whole process to them - DAW's are something new in
> their experience - and they agree that the modular approach is best
> and will allow them to upgrade as they get more money in the company.
>=20
> So, for now, they want to get the I/O interface, then add a control
> surface later, and then upgrade the I/O next time, possibly to an RME.
>=20
> Right now, the budget is around $400. Can anyone recommend a halfway
> decent 2ch or 4ch interface in that neighborhood that will work with
> their software? Since it's only the two of them, they really only
> record a max of 2 tracks at a pass, so two decent pre's are all that's
> really needed for now.
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> Thanks.
>=20
> pab
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------=_NextPart_000_05FE_01C7CE3A.2D319E40--On 25 Jul 2007 12:59:53 +1000, "Neil" <IUIU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>What a waste of three minutes of my life. lol
>
>Neil
>
Oh, come on now. You KNOW that was more entertaining than listening
to Nellie Furtado. You know it.
pabAnyone know if I can use my old Midiman Biport on my Ibook with a Serial/USB
converter. I'd just like to get a Melotron soft synth and control it with
my K2000.
If not, what would good simple USB midi interface should I look at?
Tanks all,Hmm, an RCA Ribbon mic may have smoothed him out a bit more than that Rode
or whatever it is. Oh, I know tubes, he needed more tubes.
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 25 Jul 2007 12:59:53 +1000, "Neil" <IUIU@OI.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>What a waste of three minutes of my life. lol
>>
>>Neil
>>
>
>Oh, come on now. You KNOW that was more entertaining than listening
>to Nellie Furtado. You know it.
>
>pabHI Cujo,
The M-Audio USB Midisport 2x2 or 4x4 work fine.
The serial to usb adapter don't work with the Biport.
Chris
Cujo wrote:
> Anyone know if I can use my old Midiman Biport on my Ibook with a Serial/USB
> converter. I'd just like to get a Melotron soft synth and control it with
> my K2000.
>
> If not, what would good simple USB midi interface should I look at?
>
> Tanks all,
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762HI Paul,
The TC Konnekt 24D as long as you are using Cubase and you have a Texas
Instruments based firewire chipset it will work great. Best sound AD/DA
and Mic-Pre built into an interface for under $500 IMHO.
The effects are quite good also.
Chris
Paul Braun wrote:
> Two friends of mine, who are excellent singer/songwriters, have
> started their own production company for commercial music - jingles,
> etc., plus recording their own material.
>
> They're using Cubase SX3 plus Reason right now.
>
> They need to step up from the Emu pci card they're using to a better
> interface - and I think we all agree they need to go with something
> firewire.
>
> I've explained the whole process to them - DAW's are something new in
> their experience - and they agree that the modular approach is best
> and will allow them to upgrade as they get more money in the company.
>
> So, for now, they want to get the I/O interface, then add a control
> surface later, and then upgrade the I/O next time, possibly to an RME.
>
> Right now, the budget is around $400. Can anyone recommend a halfway
> decent 2ch or 4ch interface in that neighborhood that will work with
> their software? Since it's only the two of them, they really only
> record a max of 2 tracks at a pass, so two decent pre's are all that's
> really needed for now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> pab
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Paul,
I picked up a Nuendo labelled multiface and PCI card for $350 (yes
ebay). Might want to go straight to that rather than the intermediate
step.
Jeff
Braun wrote:
> Two friends of mine, who are excellent singer/songwriters, have
> started their own production company for commercial music - jingles,
> etc., plus recording their own material.
>
> They're using Cubase SX3 plus Reason right now.
>
> They need to step up from the Emu pci card they're using to a better
> interface - and I think we all agree they need to go with something
> firewire.
>
> I've explained the whole process to them - DAW's are something new in
> their experience - and they agree that the modular approach is best
> and will allow them to upgrade as they get more money in the company.
>
> So, for now, they want to get the I/O interface, then add a control
> surface later, and then upgrade the I/O next time, possibly to an RME.
>
> Right now, the budget is around $400. Can anyone recommend a halfway
> decent 2ch or 4ch interface in that neighborhood that will work with
> their software? Since it's only the two of them, they really only
> record a max of 2 tracks at a pass, so two decent pre's are all that's
> really needed for now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> pabIf they have an EMU1616(M) or 1820(M) pci card, they have the possibility to
use some kind of Adat in/out gear. I know many in Denmark are using these
pci cards with a Behringer ADA8000 to get 8 more in/outs.
Erling
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> skrev i melding
news:1mdda395s7arhoeoukkmocllpje4bqusue@4ax.com...
> Two friends of mine, who are excellent singer/songwriters, have
> started their own production company for commercial music - jingles,
> etc., plus recording their own material.
>
> They're using Cubase SX3 plus Reason right now.
>
> They need to step up from the Emu pci card they're using to a better
> interface - and I think we all agree they need to go with something
> firewire.
>
> I've explained the whole process to them - DAW's are something new in
> their experience - and they agree that the modular approach is best
> and will allow them to upgrade as they get more money in the company.
>
> So, for now, they want to get the I/O interface, then add a control
> surface later, and then upgrade the I/O next time, possibly to an RME.
>
> Right now, the budget is around $400. Can anyone recommend a halfway
> decent 2ch or 4ch interface in that neighborhood that will work with
> their software? Since it's only the two of them, they really only
> record a max of 2 tracks at a pass, so two decent pre's are all that's
> really needed for now.
>
> Thanks.
>
> pabnot to worry...in a couple years you'll forget whatever it is that
bothers you about your age...daily.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:35:22 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>
>"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a59493$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, it's absolutely not a result of the mp3 encoding, because
>> it's there on the wav file, too... and I think you might be
>> right about it being the hihat send EFX, because on the wav
>> file I can hear it pulsing/oscillating a bit (not enough detail
>> on the mp3's, I guess, since it seemed steady-state therein
>> during the section I'm referring to).
>>
>> FWIW, I think this a great mix, and you did a superb job on the
>> recording, but that "hiss" is really distracting during that one
>> part, izallimsayin'.
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>
>I really appreciate the time that you and others took to give this a listen
>and help me out here. My ears sure aren't what they used to be a few years
>ago, but I've been overusing them and have developed a pretty good case of
>Tinnitus recently. It usually goes away if I give them a rest for a few
>days. I really never monitor at levels above 80dB any more, usually try to
>keep it to around 72-75dB.
>
>Getting old sorta' sucks sometimes.
>
>;o)
>
>i'll check it out but i already frequent too many groups...same
questions by the same people...with the exception of paris related
stuff.
On 24 Jul 2007 21:34:22 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>phpBB does beat the crap out of most other newsgroups. I would like to see
>Paris chat go to phpBB but I can't do it in 2 places.OK here's the deal.
I've been trying to speed up my net connection here, waiting for my provider
to get their act together, and alas and alac they have just released some
details about their future plans with regard to higher speeds which I am
not altogether happy with.
Hence I am seriously considering changing ISP's. Before I do so I will be
checking in detail the reliablity of their services and the like to ensure
that we are likely to have a service at least as reliable as what we have
had here to date.
What this might mean:
(*) Faster NG speed (Four times the upload speed)
(*) A short NG outage of a few hours to a day while the changeover occurs.
Yes, yes, I know, DJ will probably die and all, but if we distract him for
a while I'm sure he'll survive.
Anybody have any comments? I guess I feel obliged to check these things out
before I make any moves. I'm not convinced as of yet, but I'm considering
it very seriously, and only have about 48 hours if I want to save myself
fees on the move.
Cheers,
Kim."Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>(*) Faster NG speed (Four times the upload speed)
Oh, that's 4 x the download speed for you guys. You guys upload from me of
course, so...
Cheers,
Kim.Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool Paris
pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
....gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the net
if anybody wants one.
Cheers,
Kim.I hear that C4's big bug fix is around the corner too. I wonder if they
don't let Cubase users find the bugs and then incorporate the refined
code in Nuendo?
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Now if we could just get the marketing to flip flop so it follows the
> reality of what you and many of us know about Nuendo vs. ProTools.
>
> I completely agree - the workflow with PT always seemed a bit awkward (much
> like Avid vs. Vegas, or even Avid vs. FCP to some degree).
>
> Lamont - Nuendo 4 is just around the corner with some really nice updates -
> new automation system for one.... maybe not a lot for music users, but a
> nice update list for post.
>
> Dedric
>
> On 7/22/07 9:59 AM, in article 46a37ee9$1@linux, "LaMont"
> <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> You like Pro Tools editing over Nuendo's?? And you liek Pro Toosl workflow
>> over Neundo??
>>
>> I've never heard anyone who really used the 2 DAWs state that. Even the most
>> ardent Pro Tools users. They will readily admit, that Neundo/SX workflow
>> and editing is in another league.
>>
>> Just look at each update to Pro Tools now 7.3. Each update icorporates more
>> and more Neundo/SX liek features .. Pro Tools workflow is still not there
>> yet.. Yes, they have added the right-mouse clicks for gettign to menus, but
>> not as deep as Neundo/SX..
>>
>> And , Pro Tools (conforming) mouse still is not as slick or fast as Paris.
>>
>>
>> I have Pro Tools and use HDAcel at the studio in our church, and I'm always
>> amazed at how it reconized as the DAW leader. I'm not that impressed
>>
>> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>> I loved Paris for tracking and mixing, but it started to tick me
>>> off--numerous
>>> bugs, lockups, plugins not working properly, mixes bouncing differently
>> than
>>> how I mixed them on larger projects, etc. I just couldn't deal with it
>> anymore,
>>> fortunately at that time I was taking a break from doing studio work and
>>> left it behind. I then picked up a Nuendo rig for live recording, I liked
>>> it...but wasn't in-love with the workflow. Since then, I've put in a pair
>>> of ProToolsHD3 Accel systems with a Control24 and couldn't be happier.
>>> Brad Lyons
>>> www.audioandmidi.com
>>>
>>> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>>> PT)
>>>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now, but
>>>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>>
>>>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>>>
>>>>
>Ah bummer.
Tanx.
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Cujo,
>The M-Audio USB Midisport 2x2 or 4x4 work fine.
>The serial to usb adapter don't work with the Biport.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Cujo wrote:
>> Anyone know if I can use my old Midiman Biport on my Ibook with a Serial/USB
>> converter. I'd just like to get a Melotron soft synth and control it with
>> my K2000.
>>
>> If not, what would good simple USB midi interface should I look at?
>>
>> Tanks all,
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Sounds good to me bro. Is it possible to leave the backup server running on
'this' ISP while connnecting the normal server to the other to limit time
down?
If it's a headache don't sweat it, I'll send Deej Accordian for Dummies and
ask him how to output 44.1 and 88.2 sample rate direct at the same time for
neil's tests to keep his attention for a few hours.
AA
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a7393b$1@linux...
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>(*) Faster NG speed (Four times the upload speed)
>
> Oh, that's 4 x the download speed for you guys. You guys upload from me of
> course, so...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Check your inbox
AA
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>
>
> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
> Paris
> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>
> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the net
> if anybody wants one.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim."Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Check your inbox
Sold!
Thanks Aaron. :o)"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Is it possible to leave the backup server running on
>'this' ISP while connnecting the normal server to the other to limit time
>down?
Well both servers run off the same ISP, so...
What I could do however is to set the backup server up temporarily on somebody
else's connection, say, my brothers, for a short period. The NNTP feed would
likely have to go however as the post numbers don't line up between the two,
but we could have web interface running on the second server throughout the
event. I'd certainly seriously consider this especially if the outage was
likely to be more than 24 hours. I know people rely on this group at times
for support, so if the delay was to be considerable then this would be a
serious option.
In all likelyhood however the outage would be between about 12am and 8am
GMT, assuming Doug Wellington (who still owns the parisnewsgroup.com domain)
can change the DNS record as soon as I advise him of the new IP. I haven't
heard from him for a while so I'll have to shoot him an email and see what
the deal is there. Either way, our ISP's tend to be asleep while you guys
are at work, so the change is likely to be outside your work time.
It would be a bit of a muck around to move the backup server and reconfigure
it to grab the posts across the network, but at the same time it would be
a kinda cool thing to do. :o) And it would be a good test fot the server
as it's never been responsible for actually running the group before.
Cheers,
Kim."Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>
>
> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
> Paris
> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>
> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the net
> if anybody wants one.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
Chris,
I have a Midisport 2x2 laying around you can have.
Will try to remember to bring it to tomorrow's session.
-Phil
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ah bummer.
>Tanx.
>
>
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>HI Cujo,
>>The M-Audio USB Midisport 2x2 or 4x4 work fine.
>>The serial to usb adapter don't work with the Biport.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>Cujo wrote:
>>> Anyone know if I can use my old Midiman Biport on my Ibook with a Serial/USB
>>> converter. I'd just like to get a Melotron soft synth and control it
with
>>> my K2000.
>>>
>>> If not, what would good simple USB midi interface should I look at?
>>>
>>> Tanks all,
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>Hehe indeed...
I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They recommend
2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we can probably
make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something ) that
Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on a shirt.
The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or maybe
even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less than
that though is gonna hurt methinks...
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
>> Paris
>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>
>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the net
>> if anybody wants one.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>
>I think that was actually created by Artguy about 10 years ago.
;o)
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>
>
> Hehe indeed...
>
> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They recommend
> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we can
> probably
> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something ) that
> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on a
> shirt.
>
> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or maybe
> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less than
> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
>
>>> Paris
>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>
>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the net
>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>.........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>
>
> Hehe indeed...
>
> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They recommend
> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we can
> probably
> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something ) that
> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on a
> shirt.
>
> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or maybe
> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less than
> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
>
>>> Paris
>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>
>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the net
>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>My $$Money and ears says the M-Audio 1814. Killer unit with great drivers
support. The converters sound 400 dollars more than what the unit cost..AND,
by getting a M-Audio unit, your friends can move into Pro Tools M-Powered
which is the same as PT LE..
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FireWire1814-main.html
I have one (1814) which by the way, replaced my EMU 1212M (Ble it out of
the water..sound wise and lower latency wise..And, it built liek a Brick!!
-6 Analog Inputs..
-2 mic pres...
-8 Adat i/o
-10 Analog outs.
-midi
-Word Clock
-S/PDif
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>Two friends of mine, who are excellent singer/songwriters, have
>started their own production company for commercial music - jingles,
>etc., plus recording their own material.
>
>They're using Cubase SX3 plus Reason right now.
>
>They need to step up from the Emu pci card they're using to a better
>interface - and I think we all agree they need to go with something
>firewire.
>
>I've explained the whole process to them - DAW's are something new in
>their experience - and they agree that the modular approach is best
>and will allow them to upgrade as they get more money in the company.
>
>So, for now, they want to get the I/O interface, then add a control
>surface later, and then upgrade the I/O next time, possibly to an RME.
>
>Right now, the budget is around $400. Can anyone recommend a halfway
>decent 2ch or 4ch interface in that neighborhood that will work with
>their software? Since it's only the two of them, they really only
>record a max of 2 tracks at a pass, so two decent pre's are all that's
>really needed for now.
>
>Thanks.
>
>pabHi Bill, I did not take the C4 bait.. it's been my experience with Steinberg
to "wait" for a few revisions before updating..
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I hear that C4's big bug fix is around the corner too. I wonder if they
>don't let Cubase users find the bugs and then incorporate the refined
>code in Nuendo?
>
>Dedric Terry wrote:
>> Now if we could just get the marketing to flip flop so it follows the
>> reality of what you and many of us know about Nuendo vs. ProTools.
>>
>> I completely agree - the workflow with PT always seemed a bit awkward
(much
>> like Avid vs. Vegas, or even Avid vs. FCP to some degree).
>>
>> Lamont - Nuendo 4 is just around the corner with some really nice updates
-
>> new automation system for one.... maybe not a lot for music users, but
a
>> nice update list for post.
>>
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 7/22/07 9:59 AM, in article 46a37ee9$1@linux, "LaMont"
>> <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You like Pro Tools editing over Nuendo's?? And you liek Pro Toosl workflow
>>> over Neundo??
>>>
>>> I've never heard anyone who really used the 2 DAWs state that. Even the
most
>>> ardent Pro Tools users. They will readily admit, that Neundo/SX workflow
>>> and editing is in another league.
>>>
>>> Just look at each update to Pro Tools now 7.3. Each update icorporates
more
>>> and more Neundo/SX liek features .. Pro Tools workflow is still not there
>>> yet.. Yes, they have added the right-mouse clicks for gettign to menus,
but
>>> not as deep as Neundo/SX..
>>>
>>> And , Pro Tools (conforming) mouse still is not as slick or fast as Paris.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have Pro Tools and use HDAcel at the studio in our church, and I'm
always
>>> amazed at how it reconized as the DAW leader. I'm not that impressed
>>>
>>> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>> I loved Paris for tracking and mixing, but it started to tick me
>>>> off--numerous
>>>> bugs, lockups, plugins not working properly, mixes bouncing differently
>>> than
>>>> how I mixed them on larger projects, etc. I just couldn't deal with
it
>>> anymore,
>>>> fortunately at that time I was taking a break from doing studio work
and
>>>> left it behind. I then picked up a Nuendo rig for live recording, I
liked
>>>> it...but wasn't in-love with the workflow. Since then, I've put in
a pair
>>>> of ProToolsHD3 Accel systems with a Control24 and couldn't be happier.
>>>> Brad Lyons
>>>> www.audioandmidi.com
>>>>
>>>> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris (sans
>>>> PT)
>>>>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now,
but
>>>>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>>>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>What was the Rented Donkey picture? I don't recall ever seeing
that one.
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Hehe indeed...
>>
>> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They recommend
>> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we can
>> probably
>> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something ) that
>> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on a
>> shirt.
>>
>> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or maybe
>> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less
than
>> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
>>
>>>> Paris
>>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>>
>>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the
net
>>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>I'm not sure if I want to.
;oP
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a7802f$1@linux...
>
> What was the Rented Donkey picture? I don't recall ever seeing
> that one.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Hehe indeed...
>>>
>>> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They recommend
>>> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we can
>
>>> probably
>>> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something ) that
>>> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on a
>
>>> shirt.
>>>
>>> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or
>>> maybe
>>> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less
> than
>>> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
>>>
>>>>> Paris
>>>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the
> net
>>>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a7802f$1@linux...
>
> What was the Rented Donkey picture? I don't recall ever seeing
> that one.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Hehe indeed...
>>>
>>> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They recommend
>>> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we can
>
>>> probably
>>> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something ) that
>>> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on a
>
>>> shirt.
>>>
>>> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or
>>> maybe
>>> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less
> than
>>> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
>>>
>>>>> Paris
>>>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the
> net
>>>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
ROFL!!!
:)
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a7802f$1@linux...
>>
>> What was the Rented Donkey picture? I don't recall ever seeing
>> that one.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hehe indeed...
>>>>
>>>> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They recommend
>>>> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we
can
>>
>>>> probably
>>>> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something )
that
>>>> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on
a
>>
>>>> shirt.
>>>>
>>>> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or
>>>> maybe
>>>> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less
>> than
>>>> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other
cool
>>>>
>>>>>> Paris
>>>>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the
>> net
>>>>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>Well........OK then......as long as it's not this donkey.......
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dDbNuJ25ZzU&mode=related&a mp;search=
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a79f5e$1@linux...
>
> ROFL!!!
>
> :)
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a7802f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> What was the Rented Donkey picture? I don't recall ever seeing
>>> that one.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hehe indeed...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They
>>>>> recommend
>>>>> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we
> can
>>>
>>>>> probably
>>>>> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something )
> that
>>>>> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on
> a
>>>
>>>>> shirt.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or
>
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less
>>> than
>>>>> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other
> cool
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paris
>>>>>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the
>>> net
>>>>>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>I've never seen the rented donkey image. Where did it come from?
My low res "Paris for Dummies" cover was make just for the entertainment
of parisites like DJ and Chuck and derek and whoever else was around. I made
a bunch of high res Paris t-shirt designs back then. I can dig them out if
you wish.
-steve
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a7802f$1@linux...
>>
>> What was the Rented Donkey picture? I don't recall ever seeing
>> that one.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hehe indeed...
>>>>
>>>> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They recommend
>>>> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we
can
>>
>>>> probably
>>>> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something )
that
>>>> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on
a
>>
>>>> shirt.
>>>>
>>>> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or
>>>> maybe
>>>> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less
>> than
>>>> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other
cool
>>>>
>>>>>> Paris
>>>>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the
>> net
>>>>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>Tom Boyles... not sure he's around anymore. Gene Lennon did one about the
same time.
AA
"steve the artguy" <artguy@lugubriosity.org> wrote in message
news:46a7b4ed$1@linux...
>
> I've never seen the rented donkey image. Where did it come from?
>
> My low res "Paris for Dummies" cover was make just for the entertainment
> of parisites like DJ and Chuck and derek and whoever else was around. I
> made
> a bunch of high res Paris t-shirt designs back then. I can dig them out if
> you wish.
>
> -steve
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a7802f$1@linux...
>>>
>>> What was the Rented Donkey picture? I don't recall ever seeing
>>> that one.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hehe indeed...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They
>>>>> recommend
>>>>> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we
> can
>>>
>>>>> probably
>>>>> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something )
> that
>>>>> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on
> a
>>>
>>>>> shirt.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or
>
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less
>>> than
>>>>> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other
> cool
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paris
>>>>>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the
>>> net
>>>>>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@lugubriosity.org> wrote:
>I can dig them out if
>you wish.
Steve, if you could, that would be gold! I've found a site on the web which
lets you submit a design and will make shirts for you in any quantity from
1 upwards. I figure some people around here would no doubt like a Paris t
shirt. I know I would.
If you would be willing to search them out and shoot them at my email address
that would be just wonderous! :o)
Cheers,
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Kim and Steve,
Count me in for at least one. The donkey one is great.
I can't wait to see Steve's others !
Tom
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>I can dig them out if
>you wish.
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from
1 upwards. I figure some people around here would no doubt like a =
Paris t
shirt. I know I would.
If you would be willing to search them out and shoot them at my email =
address
that would be just wonderous! :o)
Cheers,
Kim.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_02C9_01C7CF18.55908D90--It's been my experience never to be a "paying beta-tester" for
anything - I always wait 'til version 1-point-something at the
very least.
Neil
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hi Bill, I did not take the C4 bait.. it's been my experience with Steinberg
>to "wait" for a few revisions before updating..
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>I hear that C4's big bug fix is around the corner too. I wonder if they
>
>>don't let Cubase users find the bugs and then incorporate the refined
>>code in Nuendo?
>>
>>Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> Now if we could just get the marketing to flip flop so it follows the
>>> reality of what you and many of us know about Nuendo vs. ProTools.
>>>
>>> I completely agree - the workflow with PT always seemed a bit awkward
>(much
>>> like Avid vs. Vegas, or even Avid vs. FCP to some degree).
>>>
>>> Lamont - Nuendo 4 is just around the corner with some really nice updates
>-
>>> new automation system for one.... maybe not a lot for music users, but
>a
>>> nice update list for post.
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 7/22/07 9:59 AM, in article 46a37ee9$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>> <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You like Pro Tools editing over Nuendo's?? And you liek Pro Toosl workflow
>>>> over Neundo??
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard anyone who really used the 2 DAWs state that. Even
the
>most
>>>> ardent Pro Tools users. They will readily admit, that Neundo/SX workflow
>>>> and editing is in another league.
>>>>
>>>> Just look at each update to Pro Tools now 7.3. Each update icorporates
>more
>>>> and more Neundo/SX liek features .. Pro Tools workflow is still not
there
>>>> yet.. Yes, they have added the right-mouse clicks for gettign to menus,
>but
>>>> not as deep as Neundo/SX..
>>>>
>>>> And , Pro Tools (conforming) mouse still is not as slick or fast as
Paris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have Pro Tools and use HDAcel at the studio in our church, and I'm
>always
>>>> amazed at how it reconized as the DAW leader. I'm not that impressed
>>>>
>>>> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>>> I loved Paris for tracking and mixing, but it started to tick me
>>>>> off--numerous
>>>>> bugs, lockups, plugins not working properly, mixes bouncing differently
>>>> than
>>>>> how I mixed them on larger projects, etc. I just couldn't deal with
>it
>>>> anymore,
>>>>> fortunately at that time I was taking a break from doing studio work
>and
>>>>> left it behind. I then picked up a Nuendo rig for live recording,
I
>liked
>>>>> it...but wasn't in-love with the workflow. Since then, I've put in
>a pair
>>>>> of ProToolsHD3 Accel systems with a Control24 and couldn't be happier.
>>>>> Brad Lyons
>>>>> www.audioandmidi.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I have been looking at the current popular atlternatives to Paris
(sans
>>>>> PT)
>>>>>> and I'm not impressed. I have no reason to change systems right now,
>but
>>>>>> looking forward I know I'll need to update sometime.
>>>>>> I was just wondering what some of your reasons were to change?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now the biggest asset to me would be Nuendo's latency compensation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>Hehe yes I can't wait either. I'm a little concerned that I'll have to buy
all of them. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Kim and Steve,
>Count me in for at least one. The donkey one is great.
>I can't wait to see Steve's others !
>Tom
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:46a7e440$1@linux...
>
> "steve the artguy" <artguy@lugubriosity.org> wrote:
> >I can dig them out if
> >you wish.
>
> Steve, if you could, that would be gold! I've found a site on the web
=
>which
> lets you submit a design and will make shirts for you in any quantity
=
>from
> 1 upwards. I figure some people around here would no doubt like a =
>Paris t
> shirt. I know I would.
>
> If you would be willing to search them out and shoot them at my email
=
>address
> that would be just wonderous! :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
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>donkey one=20
>is great.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't wait to see Steve's others =
>!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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>ve the=20
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> wrote:<BR>>I can dig them out if<BR>>you wish.<BR><BR>Steve, if =
>you=20
> could, that would be gold! I've found a site on the web which<BR>lets
=
>you=20
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=
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>
>Wow, some good ears out there. I thought maybe I heard something around
where the mandolin crescendos just before the bridge, but maybe it's just
the snare rim reverb. My co-producer who is actually an engineer is the one
who deals with this kind of issue on our mixes, since I'm not generally
bothered by bits of noise, distortion, out-of-tuneness, etc. (Auto Tune . .
.. phehh)
Really I just wanted to say I thought it sounded real purty. Nice work. DJ.
:)
S
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46a51089@linux...
> I've shared this file with a few folks here over the wekend. I'm trying to
> get my head around mixing in Cubase and the push/pull that needs to happen
> to get some BIG out of a native DAW. I'm wondering if I'm pushin/pulling a
> bit too hard here or there. I'm posting a link to an MP3 here. One of my
> esteemed colleagues is reporting a section of hiss along a breif portion
> of the timeline (not during a cymbal event). I'm not hearing it. I'm
> wondering if my hearing is getting notched out to the point of missing
> something significant.
>
> Here's a link:
>
> http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/197278/Faith-In-love-7-21-0 7-6-mp3.html
>
> At the bottom, type in the symbols as prompted, this will take you to the
> next page where a red button at the bottom will start loading and after 15
> seconds you can click on it to DL the file.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>Just letting you all know that at this stage it looks like I'll be going
ahead with this ISP change. More details to come, but currently it's all
go.
It will probably mean an outage of some sort (perhaps NNTP outage with continued
web service) in about a weeks time.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Is it possible to leave the backup server running on
>>'this' ISP while connnecting the normal server to the other to limit time
>
>>down?
>
>Well both servers run off the same ISP, so...
>
>What I could do however is to set the backup server up temporarily on somebody
>else's connection, say, my brothers, for a short period. The NNTP feed would
>likely have to go however as the post numbers don't line up between the
two,
>but we could have web interface running on the second server throughout
the
>event. I'd certainly seriously consider this especially if the outage was
>likely to be more than 24 hours. I know people rely on this group at times
>for support, so if the delay was to be considerable then this would be a
>serious option.
>
>In all likelyhood however the outage would be between about 12am and 8am
>GMT, assuming Doug Wellington (who still owns the parisnewsgroup.com domain)
>can change the DNS record as soon as I advise him of the new IP. I haven't
>heard from him for a while so I'll have to shoot him an email and see what
>the deal is there. Either way, our ISP's tend to be asleep while you guys
>are at work, so the change is likely to be outside your work time.
>
>It would be a bit of a muck around to move the backup server and reconfigure
>it to grab the posts across the network, but at the same time it would be
>a kinda cool thing to do. :o) And it would be a good test fot the server
>as it's never been responsible for actually running the group before.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim."Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:46a83602@linux...
> Wow, some good ears out there. I thought maybe I heard something around
> where the mandolin crescendos just before the bridge, but maybe it's just
> the snare rim reverb. My co-producer who is actually an engineer is the
> one who deals with this kind of issue on our mixes, since I'm not
> generally bothered by bits of noise, distortion, out-of-tuneness, etc.
> (Auto Tune . . . phehh)
>
> Really I just wanted to say I thought it sounded real purty. Nice work.
> DJ. :)
>
> S
Thanks
;o)Your thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQI found this:
http://ping.windowsdream.com/
Anybody know if it's any good?
Cheers,
Kim.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJxc3Lxn4oJust another update...
Annoyingly it looks as if the internet changeover would take about a week.
That being the case the backup server would be configured in web only mode
at another residence for access over this time. Hence we would be a web only
group temporarily for a week or so...
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Just letting you all know that at this stage it looks like I'll be going
>ahead with this ISP change. More details to come, but currently it's all
>go.
>
>It will probably mean an outage of some sort (perhaps NNTP outage with continued
>web service) in about a weeks time.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Is it possible to leave the backup server running on
>>>'this' ISP while connnecting the normal server to the other to limit time
>>
>>>down?
>>
>>Well both servers run off the same ISP, so...
>>
>>What I could do however is to set the backup server up temporarily on somebody
>>else's connection, say, my brothers, for a short period. The NNTP feed
would
>>likely have to go however as the post numbers don't line up between the
>two,
>>but we could have web interface running on the second server throughout
>the
>>event. I'd certainly seriously consider this especially if the outage was
>>likely to be more than 24 hours. I know people rely on this group at times
>>for support, so if the delay was to be considerable then this would be
a
>>serious option.
>>
>>In all likelyhood however the outage would be between about 12am and 8am
>>GMT, assuming Doug Wellington (who still owns the parisnewsgroup.com domain)
>>can change the DNS record as soon as I advise him of the new IP. I haven't
>>heard from him for a while so I'll have to shoot him an email and see what
>>the deal is there. Either way, our ISP's tend to be asleep while you guys
>>are at work, so the change is likely to be outside your work time.
>>
>>It would be a bit of a muck around to move the backup server and reconfigure
>>it to grab the posts across the network, but at the same time it would
be
>>a kinda cool thing to do. :o) And it would be a good test fot the server
>>as it's never been responsible for actually running the group before.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>i was told "having thoughts" wasn't a good thing so i've stopped
having them...i think...yup, not a one here.
On 26 Jul 2007 16:54:11 +1000, "James McCloskey"
<excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Your thoughts?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQReading the forum indicates it does not let you restore images onto smaller
drives like some other apps do. My fav is Acronis True Image Home. Really
a sweet app. It finds the network and lets me put/get images from shares
on other windows boxes.It's obvious stuff. You either want dynamics or not. I send everyone back
to Thriller school to listen to what dynamics are.
You start to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes,
Youre paralyzed
Chorus
cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no ones gonna save you from the beast about strike
You know its thriller, thriller night
Youre fighting for your life inside a killer, thriller tonight"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46a84513$1@linux...
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
.............there's a volume knob?I dabbled with Ghost in years past at work and found it to be a pain
in the a$$. Recently I sensed my C-drive was heading south, so I
picked up Acronis True Image, installed and ran it. A couple of days
later, the drive went platter up, so I swapped in the imaged disk, and
voila, it was as if nothing happened. Acronis saved me hours or days
of rebuilding, reinstalling, and reconfiguring.
On the other hand, I always cringe at having to pay $50 for the
windows version of dd.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 26 Jul 2007 17:06:00 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I found this:
>
>http://ping.windowsdream.com/
>
>Anybody know if it's any good?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Hi Kim,
Acronis True Image 10
and Paragon Drive Back Up 8.5
Both are reliable and easy to use. Paragon has better hard drive
controller support on the newer Intel motherboards when using their
recovery boot disk CD.
Chris
Kim wrote:
> I found this:
>
> http://ping.windowsdream.com/
>
> Anybody know if it's any good?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Interesting.. To be honet, I'm forgeting what dynamics sounds like these day..
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Your thoughts?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQsad...
On 27 Jul 2007 03:56:35 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Interesting.. To be honet, I'm forgeting what dynamics sounds like these day..
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Your thoughts?
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQJust something to think about when mixing and mastering.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Your thoughts?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQGreat great advice.. to much knowledge to not get screwd by th Majors these
days.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AJxc3Lxn4oHehe, they're a comin'! :o)
Steve (the art guy ;o) has emailed me a host of designs. All will be made
available, including his and the famed Donkey. I might get it done this weekend
if I get the time. I'll post once they're up.
Cheers,
Kim."Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hehe, they're a comin'! :o)
>
>Steve (the art guy ;o) has emailed me a host of designs. All will be made
>available, including his and the famed Donkey. I might get it done this
weekend
>if I get the time. I'll post once they're up.
Any of the mime? How about a mime spanking a rented donkey? No,
wait, the other way around! lol
:)"Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>Any of the mime? How about a mime spanking a rented donkey? No,
>wait, the other way around! lol
I've heard talk about the mime, but never seen any pics. Does anyone have
any of those pics? I can make a shirt from anything that's high enough res
if somebody posts or emails me a pic...
Cheers,
Kim.Oh Gawd!!!!.the fuckin' mime again???
;oP
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a94987$1@linux...
>
> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>Any of the mime? How about a mime spanking a rented donkey? No,
>>wait, the other way around! lol
>
> I've heard talk about the mime, but never seen any pics. Does anyone have
> any of those pics? I can make a shirt from anything that's high enough res
> if somebody posts or emails me a pic...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.I think I may have some original Ensoniq brochures at the
office... I'll check... ;-)
David.
Kim wrote:
> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>>Any of the mime? How about a mime spanking a rented donkey? No,
>>wait, the other way around! lol
>
>
> I've heard talk about the mime, but never seen any pics. Does anyone have
> any of those pics? I can make a shirt from anything that's high enough res
> if somebody posts or emails me a pic...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Nappy, I'm happy to hear of your progress. Continued well wishes!
TyroneHey guys, just wanted to share that I have had the opportunity to use the
Shure SLX 87c and really like it. From what I understand, the primary difference
between the 87A and the 87C is that the 87C is moreso geard towards the inner
ear monitoring systems.
Also, like to thank Morgan at East Coast for his assistance! I still maintain
my favorite vendors are Morgan Pettinato and Chris Ludwig. Two class acts!
Tyronehttp://www.hasbro.com/toothtunes/
Not even close to as good a brush as my Sonicare, but DANG it's cool. I
bought the KISS one, LOL !
AAActually, the difference between the Beta87A and the Beta87C is more of a
tonal difference, not that one is aimed more towards in-ears. I have 16-channels
of their top of the line U4 series (about $2,000 per channel--ouch!) and
also use the Beta87 element, sounds good. I prefer the KSM9, but I'd have
to buy wireless clip-on transmitters and those mics--at $700 per mic and
then another $1,000 per clip-on trasnmitter, NO THANKS! :-)
Brad Lyons
Sweetwater
"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Hey guys, just wanted to share that I have had the opportunity to use the
>Shure SLX 87c and really like it. From what I understand, the primary difference
>between the 87A and the 87C is that the 87C is moreso geard towards the
inner
>ear monitoring systems.
>
>Also, like to thank Morgan at East Coast for his assistance! I still maintain
>my favorite vendors are Morgan Pettinato and Chris Ludwig. Two class acts!
>
>Tyronehttp://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?p=68697#post68697Hi Tom,
I have missed reading for quite some time the posts.
Can you please post what is your situation now with your Paris problems and
gather all your findings ?
I really cannot follow up all these posts and know where you are right now.
Regards,
DimitriosI still have my original Paris T shirt in mint condition that I got when I
first bought Paris. I think I got it from Sam Ash, but I don't remember.
Lou
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hehe, they're a comin'! :o)
>
>Steve (the art guy ;o) has emailed me a host of designs. All will be made
>available, including his and the famed Donkey. I might get it done this
weekend
>if I get the time. I'll post once they're up.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Hi Dimitrios,
I was very close to my 4 mec(442)/Mixer-Mixer setup you described.
I was stable as a rock with two Mecs (loaded with 5 modules each) and =
one 442.
I added a 3rd Mec and all hell broke loose. Paris would no longer boot =
up with
even one module attached. I did have a cloned C drive but not of the =
stable setup.
It was of 2 Mecs only. Not bad but not the rock solid setup. I am =
using the Lucid WC.
I smoked a Mec by booting up Paris with a SCSI cable half inserted. =
That has yet
to be repaired. I was suspect of the scsi cables for a while. I had to =
realign the pins
on a few of them.
I learned the hard way that you don't want a default project in the =
Paris folder
when adding new hardware. I suspect this was my first and most =
detrimental
mistake. I thank Jeff Hoover for that key information.
I have tried all SCSI cables and interconnect ribbons in a second =
computer to find
they are in perfect working order with the 442 as the only hardware =
attached.
Now I am triple checking that all eds cards are fully operational before =
going back
into the studio with the hardware. The only thing left to test are the =
other two functioning Mecs.
If they are happy then the Magma is worth double checking. Not quite =
sure how to do=20
that really.
I am really busy with my gigging schedule so this has taken a back seat =
but it is still
really important to have firing on all cylinders.
Thanks for listening!
Any ideas?
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:46a9e443$1@linux...
Hi Tom,
I have missed reading for quite some time the posts.
Can you please post what is your situation now with your Paris =
problems and
gather all your findings ?
I really cannot follow up all these posts and know where you are right =
now.
Regards,
Dimitrios
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was very close to my 4 =
mec(442)/Mixer-Mixer setup=20
you described.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was stable as a rock with two Mecs =
(loaded with 5=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I added a 3rd Mec and all hell broke =
loose. =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>even one module =
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setup.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It was of 2 Mecs only. Not bad =
but not the=20
rock solid setup. I am using the Lucid WC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I smoked a Mec by booting up Paris with =
a SCSI=20
cable half inserted. That has yet</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to be repaired. I was suspect of =
the scsi=20
cables for a while. I had to realign the pins</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on a few of them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I learned the hard way that you don't =
want a=20
default project in the Paris folder</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>when adding new hardware. I =
suspect this was=20
my first and most detrimental</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mistake. I thank Jeff Hoover for =
that key=20
information.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have tried all SCSI cables and =
interconnect=20
ribbons in a second computer to find</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>they are in perfect working order with =
the 442 as=20
the only hardware attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now I am triple checking that all eds =
cards are=20
fully operational before going back</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>into the studio with the =
hardware. The only=20
thing left to test are the other two functioning Mecs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If they are happy then the Magma is =
worth double=20
checking. Not quite sure how to do </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that really.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am really busy with my gigging =
schedule so this=20
has taken a back seat but it is still</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>really important to have firing on all=20
cylinders.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for listening!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any ideas?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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where=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0109_01C7D04F.F46E6DA0--Tom,
Get the mecs tested first. If you have a working eds on the second
computer and the magma is connected to the studio box, drop one of the
eds's in the magma with the or a tested mec (remember the default
project there!) and fire her up. Let us know what the result is.
Jeff
> Hi Dimitrios,
> I was very close to my 4 mec(442)/Mixer-Mixer setup you described.
> I was stable as a rock with two Mecs (loaded with 5 modules each) and
> one 442.
> I added a 3rd Mec and all hell broke loose. Paris would no longer boot
> up with
> even one module attached. I did have a cloned C drive but not of the
> stable setup.
> It was of 2 Mecs only. Not bad but not the rock solid setup. I am
> using the Lucid WC.
>
> I smoked a Mec by booting up Paris with a SCSI cable half inserted.
> That has yet
> to be repaired. I was suspect of the scsi cables for a while. I had to
> realign the pins
> on a few of them.
>
> I learned the hard way that you don't want a default project in the
> Paris folder
> when adding new hardware. I suspect this was my first and most detrimental
> mistake. I thank Jeff Hoover for that key information.
>
> I have tried all SCSI cables and interconnect ribbons in a second
> computer to find
> they are in perfect working order with the 442 as the only hardware
> attached.
>
> Now I am triple checking that all eds cards are fully operational before
> going back
> into the studio with the hardware. The only thing left to test are the
> other two functioning Mecs.
> If they are happy then the Magma is worth double checking. Not quite
> sure how to do
> that really.
>
> I am really busy with my gigging schedule so this has taken a back seat
> but it is still
> really important to have firing on all cylinders.
>
> Thanks for listening!
> Any ideas?
> Tom
>
>
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr <mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr>> wrote
> in message news:46a9e443$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
> I have missed reading for quite some time the posts.
> Can you please post what is your situation now with your Paris
> problems and
> gather all your findings ?
> I really cannot follow up all these posts and know where you are
> right now.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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Ya Jeff that's the plan. When I find a minute or two.
It's crazy times around here. Sunday maybe. Maybe not.
Thanks,
Tom
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
news:46aa321a@linux...
Tom,
Get the mess tested first. If you have a working eds on the second=20
computer and the magma is connected to the studio box, drop one of the =
eds's in the magma with the or a tested mec (remember the default=20
project there!) and fire her up. Let us know what the result is.
Jeff
> Hi Dimitrios,
> I was very close to my 4 mec(442)/Mixer-Mixer setup you described.
> I was stable as a rock with two Mecs (loaded with 5 modules each) =
and=20
> one 442.
> I added a 3rd Mec and all hell broke loose. Paris would no longer =
boot=20
> up with
> even one module attached. I did have a cloned C drive but not of =
the=20
> stable setup.
> It was of 2 Mecs only. Not bad but not the rock solid setup. I am=20
> using the Lucid WC.
> =20
> I smoked a Mec by booting up Paris with a SCSI cable half inserted. =
> That has yet
> to be repaired. I was suspect of the scsi cables for a while. I had =
to=20
> realign the pins
> on a few of them.
> =20
> I learned the hard way that you don't want a default project in the=20
> Paris folder
> when adding new hardware. I suspect this was my first and most =
detrimental
> mistake. I thank Jeff Hoover for that key information.
> =20
> I have tried all SCSI cables and interconnect ribbons in a second=20
> computer to find
> they are in perfect working order with the 442 as the only hardware=20
> attached.
> =20
> Now I am triple checking that all eds cards are fully operational =
before=20
> going back
> into the studio with the hardware. The only thing left to test are =
the=20
> other two functioning Mecs.
> If they are happy then the Magma is worth double checking. Not =
quite=20
> sure how to do
> that really.
> =20
> I am really busy with my gigging schedule so this has taken a back =
seat=20
> but it is still
> really important to have firing on all cylinders.
> =20
> Thanks for listening!
> Any ideas?
> Tom
> =20
> =20
>=20
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr <mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr>> =
wrote
> in message news:46a9e443$1@linux...
>=20
> Hi Tom,
> I have missed reading for quite some time the posts.
> Can you please post what is your situation now with your Paris
> problems and
> gather all your findings ?
> I really cannot follow up all these posts and know where you are
> right now.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya Jeff that's the plan. When I =
find a minute=20
or two.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's crazy times around here. =
Sunday=20
maybe. Maybe not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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Get=20
the mess tested first. If you have a working eds on the second=20
<BR>computer and the magma is connected to the studio box, drop one of =
the=20
<BR>eds's in the magma with the or a tested mec (remember the default=20
<BR>project there!) and fire her up. Let us know what the result =
is.<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR><BR>> Hi Dimitrios,<BR>> I was very close =
to my 4=20
mec(442)/Mixer-Mixer setup you described.<BR>> I was stable as a =
rock with=20
two Mecs (loaded with 5 modules each) and <BR>> one 442.<BR>> I =
added a=20
3rd Mec and all hell broke loose. Paris would no longer boot =
<BR>> up=20
with<BR>> even one module attached. I did have a cloned C =
drive but=20
not of the <BR>> stable setup.<BR>> It was of 2 Mecs only. =
Not bad=20
but not the rock solid setup. I am <BR>> using the Lucid=20
WC.<BR>> <BR>> I smoked a Mec by booting up Paris with a =
SCSI=20
cable half inserted. <BR>> That has yet<BR>> to be =
repaired. =20
I was suspect of the scsi cables for a while. I had to <BR>> =
realign the=20
pins<BR>> on a few of them.<BR>> <BR>> I learned the =
hard way=20
that you don't want a default project in the <BR>> Paris =
folder<BR>>=20
when adding new hardware. I suspect this was my first and most=20
detrimental<BR>> mistake. I thank Jeff Hoover for that key=20
information.<BR>> <BR>> I have tried all SCSI cables and=20
interconnect ribbons in a second <BR>> computer to find<BR>> =
they are in=20
perfect working order with the 442 as the only hardware <BR>>=20
attached.<BR>> <BR>> Now I am triple checking that all eds =
cards=20
are fully operational before <BR>> going back<BR>> into the =
studio with=20
the hardware. The only thing left to test are the <BR>> other =
two=20
functioning Mecs.<BR>> If they are happy then the Magma is worth =
double=20
checking. Not quite <BR>> sure how to do<BR>> that=20
really.<BR>> <BR>> I am really busy with my gigging =
schedule so=20
this has taken a back seat <BR>> but it is still<BR>> really =
important=20
to have firing on all cylinders.<BR>> <BR>> Thanks for=20
listening!<BR>> Any ideas?<BR>> Tom<BR>> <BR>> =
<BR>> <BR>> "Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>> =
wrote<BR>> in message <A=20
href=3D"news:46a9e443$1@linux">news:46a9e443$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>> Hi =
Tom,<BR>> I=20
have missed reading for quite some time the=20
posts.<BR>> Can you please post what is =
your=20
situation now with your Paris<BR>> problems =
and<BR>> gather all your findings=20
?<BR>> I really cannot follow up all these =
posts=20
and know where you are<BR>> right=20
now.<BR>> =
Regards,<BR>> =20
Dimitrios<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to=20
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------=_NextPart_000_012C_01C7D060.43041F90--Well, it's been a couple months, so I figured I should drop in suddenly.
(And probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest time of
year for me...
I've got a couple things going that are keeping me quite busy. I've got a
panel making and silkscreening business, so I'm having fun planning out some
destruction for one of my C-16 controllers. (Different colors and wooden
end cheeks...) The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller
programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks
mysteriously...)
If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that I can
wear them!
Doug
P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email later today or over the weekend. Just let
me know when things change and I'll update it on my end. I'll give you my
text pager email address so that you can let me know even if I'm not online.
Also, one possibility, since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a backup
server over here and sync up with yours...
http://www.parisfaqs.comMe too, however my shirt is nearly grey now, cause I wear is so much. It's
my favorite. It says,
"digital recording . . . demystified . . . . Paris
I found this rented donkey jpeg.
I thought a year or two back seeing some different jpeg's on this newsgroup,
but I'm not sure.
Maybe jpegs can be captured from the BT DVD.
Wayne
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Doug,
Motorized faders in a Paris rig would be a god send!
If you can get it working you can count me in.
Tom
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Well, it's been a couple months, so I figured I should drop in =
suddenly.=20
(And probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest =
time of=20
year for me...
I've got a couple things going that are keeping me quite busy. I've =
got a=20
panel making and silkscreening business, so I'm having fun planning =
out some=20
destruction for one of my C-16 controllers. (Different colors and =
wooden=20
end cheeks...) The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller=20
programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks=20
mysteriously...)
If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that I =
can=20
wear them!
Doug
P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email later today or over the weekend. =
Just let=20
me know when things change and I'll update it on my end. I'll give =
you my=20
text pager email address so that you can let me know even if I'm not =
online.=20
Also, one possibility, since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a =
backup=20
server over here and sync up with yours...
http://www.parisfaqs.com=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Doug,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Motorized faders in a Paris rig would =
be a god=20
send!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you can get it working you can count =
me=20
in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:doug@parisfaqs.com">doug@parisfaqs.com</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A href=3D"news:46aa4b6b@linux">news:46aa4b6b@linux</A>...</DIV>Well, =
it's been=20
a couple months, so I figured I should drop in suddenly. <BR>(And =
probably=20
drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest time of =
<BR>year for me...<BR><BR>I've got a couple things going that are =
keeping me=20
quite busy. I've got a <BR>panel making and silkscreening =
business, so=20
I'm having fun planning out some <BR>destruction for one of my C-16=20
controllers. (Different colors and wooden <BR>end =
cheeks...) The=20
other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller <BR>programming - =
anybody=20
interested in motorized faders? (He asks =
<BR>mysteriously...)<BR><BR>If=20
anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that I =
can=20
<BR>wear them!<BR><BR>Doug<BR><BR>P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email =
later today=20
or over the weekend. Just let <BR>me know when things change and =
I'll=20
update it on my end. I'll give you my <BR>text pager email =
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possibility,=20
since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a backup <BR>server over here =
and sync=20
up with yours...<BR><BR><A=20
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It's alot like an old version of ghost. Basically you set up the server
on one of your machines, and boot the client disk on the machine to be 'ghosted'
Chuck
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I found this:
>
>http://ping.windowsdream.com/
>
>Anybody know if it's any good?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Dude you so totally rock
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Doug,
Motorized faders in a Paris rig would be a god send!
If you can get it working you can count me in.
Tom
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message =
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Well, it's been a couple months, so I figured I should drop in =
suddenly.=20
(And probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest =
time of=20
year for me...
I've got a couple things going that are keeping me quite busy. I've =
got a=20
panel making and silkscreening business, so I'm having fun planning =
out some=20
destruction for one of my C-16 controllers. (Different colors and =
wooden=20
end cheeks...) The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller=20
programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks=20
mysteriously...)
If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that =
I can=20
wear them!
Doug
P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email later today or over the weekend. =
Just let=20
me know when things change and I'll update it on my end. I'll give =
you my=20
text pager email address so that you can let me know even if I'm not =
online.=20
Also, one possibility, since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a =
backup=20
server over here and sync up with yours...
http://www.parisfaqs.com=20
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Doug,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Motorized faders in a Paris rig would =
be a god=20
send!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you can get it working you can =
count me=20
in.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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in message=20
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<BR>(And=20
probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the =
busiest time=20
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keeping=20
me quite busy. I've got a <BR>panel making and silkscreening =
business,=20
so I'm having fun planning out some <BR>destruction for one of my =
C-16=20
controllers. (Different colors and wooden <BR>end =
cheeks...) The=20
other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller <BR>programming - =
anybody=20
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<BR>mysteriously...)<BR><BR>If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* =
make them=20
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Kim, I'll=20
send you an email later today or over the weekend. Just let =
<BR>me=20
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give you my=20
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not=20
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set up a=20
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your U2 Transmitter. BTW, the UR series is now the top of
the line and the U4 is discontinued.
David.
Brad Lyons wrote:
> Actually, the difference between the Beta87A and the Beta87C is more of a
> tonal difference, not that one is aimed more towards in-ears. I have 16-channels
> of their top of the line U4 series (about $2,000 per channel--ouch!) and
> also use the Beta87 element, sounds good. I prefer the KSM9, but I'd have
> to buy wireless clip-on transmitters and those mics--at $700 per mic and
> then another $1,000 per clip-on trasnmitter, NO THANKS! :-)
>
> Brad Lyons
> Sweetwater
>
> "Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Hey guys, just wanted to share that I have had the opportunity to use the
>>Shure SLX 87c and really like it. From what I understand, the primary difference
>>between the 87A and the 87C is that the 87C is moreso geard towards the
>
> inner
>
>>ear monitoring systems.
>>
>>Also, like to thank Morgan at East Coast for his assistance! I still maintain
>>my favorite vendors are Morgan Pettinato and Chris Ludwig. Two class acts!
>>
>>Tyrone
>
>"The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller
> programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks
> mysteriously...)
>
>
Doug,
Back in 1999 I worked with Matt Craig on locating the tiny servo motors that
would be necessary in order to fit them inside a C-16. We did find some, but
they would have to be ordered in large lots and it would have been too much
of a cash outlay to justify building a prototype. IIRC, that was one of the
main reasons Matt scrubbed this project.
DeejHaving a mic taylored for in-ears would be like having a
studio mic best suited to headphones... wouldn't make sense.
The '87 of any suffix is a very good sounding mic, but I
wouldn't use one for a lead singer in front of a drummer on
a small stage... this is more of a "concert capsule" you
need some distance between it and the rest of the band. If
a condenser is what you are after, also try out a Sennheiser
EW165G2... the 865 capsule has beaten the Neumann KMS-105 in
blind listening tests. I have modded a few old Astatic 77's
with 865 capsules and electronics for a local location guy
that does a great deal of CMT work... they sound REALLY good.
David.
Tyrone Corbett wrote:
> Hey guys, just wanted to share that I have had the opportunity to use the
> Shure SLX 87c and really like it. From what I understand, the primary difference
> between the 87A and the 87C is that the 87C is moreso geard towards the inner
> ear monitoring systems.
>
> Also, like to thank Morgan at East Coast for his assistance! I still maintain
> my favorite vendors are Morgan Pettinato and Chris Ludwig. Two class acts!
>
> TyroneI have the great fortune of having a special phone connection to Doug.
Every so often I give him a ring and we chit-chat about life, music,
and various projects on our benches. Mine ideas are all theoretical,
whereas his are actually being engineered and programmed, or at least,
he has an idea what it would take to get the job done.
One idea we bounced around recently got proposed here, but no one
seemed interested, so I guess it has died. I thought, with his
silk-screening ability, Doug could figure out how to repaint blackface
C16s to blueface. Actually what I want is to render C16s into C16Pros.
I don't want to have to tape labels to my C16 to get it to work in
ParisPro mode. We asked if anyone else would be interested, but none
seemed to care.
Another idea has to do with building a box that converts the signals
passing back and forth from the EDS to the C16. Doug assures me that
the EDS end of the cat5 cable is a serial port, so I envision a box
that converts the serial data stream to appropriate MIDI commands.
Working in either direction would be a plus since it could mean using
other controllers with Paris, or using the C16 with other software.
Doug has some other ventures going on that I won't divulge, but I hope
he is successful with them. Cool things would surely result.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:40:49 -0700, "Doug Wellington"
<doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>Well, it's been a couple months, so I figured I should drop in suddenly.
>(And probably drop out as suddenly!) ;-) Summers are the busiest time of
>year for me...
>
>I've got a couple things going that are keeping me quite busy. I've got a
>panel making and silkscreening business, so I'm having fun planning out some
>destruction for one of my C-16 controllers. (Different colors and wooden
>end cheeks...) The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller
>programming - anybody interested in motorized faders? (He asks
>mysteriously...)
>
>If anyone makes tee shirts, you *MUST* make them in XXL size so that I can
>wear them!
>
>Doug
>
>P.S. Kim, I'll send you an email later today or over the weekend. Just let
>me know when things change and I'll update it on my end. I'll give you my
>text pager email address so that you can let me know even if I'm not online.
>Also, one possibility, since it's NNTP, is that I could set up a backup
>server over here and sync up with yours...
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqRT_kCOLIDYNAMICS... we're playing as loud as we can!!!
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:46a8e053$1@linux...
>
> Interesting.. To be honet, I'm forgeting what dynamics sounds like these
> day..
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Your thoughts?
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
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DYNAMICS... we're playing as loud as we can!!!
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>
> Interesting.. To be honet, I'm forgeting what dynamics sounds like =
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> day..
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Your thoughts?
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3Gmex_4hreQ
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------=_NextPart_000_01AB_01C7D0BA.CD1294F0--"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>The other thing I've gotten into is microcontroller
>programming
By any chance, do you know anything about Massenburg
Automation systems & how to repair them, as a result of these
endeavors?
NeilIt is funny... the number of times you hear, "can you turn up the (blank)",
as opposed to the few times you hear somebody ask "can up turn down the
(blank)?"
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:46aadc15$1@linux...
When mixing I like the concept of make everything louder than everything
else . . .Hello to you all. I was once a Paris user, and when I switched to another
DAW, I kept the system "just in case".
Well, just in case has yet to come, and I'm thinking about selling the system.
I'm wondering if there is still an interest in Paris.
I understand this is old technology, and I realise I'm not going to make
a killing here. If there are people out there still interested in Paris,
though...I'd rather the system get used than sit on a shelf here. I would
have to take an official inventory, and I will if there is interest, but
off the top of my head:
4 EDS cards
5 8i input modules
2 8o output modules (maybe 4)
4 ADAT modules
3 MECs
2 442s
2 IF2s
2 C-16s
3 3.0 software disks
Everything is in either brand new or excellent condition, although one C-16
shows some paint wear from use. It's all blackface, except for 1 MEC and
1 8i card. The used C-16 has been relabeled to reflect the "pro" control
set.
I also have a rack mount computer that currently has a swapable OS and Audio
drive. I have two OS HDs, one with ME and one with XP. They both are loaded
with 3.0 software. The ME version will also run Waves Native v. 2 and has
a dongle for that. It's basically a stable turnkey PARIS system that can
fit up to 4 EDS cards, but it's pretty old. I'd say an Athlon 1400 or something.
So if anyone could put any of this to use, let me know. I'm in the Washington
DC area. If there is interest, I will begin testing everything and taking
photos.
thanks,
Joe Porto
mail@joeporto.com
301-365-2100 (M-F, 10AM-4PM EST)Check out the Mixerman radio show theme song. The radio show program is
juvenile at best, but the theme is super cool.
Don Nafe wrote:
> http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?p=68697#post68697
>
>Hi Joe,
Why don't you figure out what you want for your Paris bits and pieces. I'm
in the DC area too... I don't NEED anything, but if the price is right you
never know!
What did you switch to?
gantt
"Joe Porto" <mail@joeporto.com> wrote:
>
> Hello to you all. I was once a Paris user, and when I switched to another
>DAW, I kept the system "just in case".
>
>Well, just in case has yet to come, and I'm thinking about selling the system.
>I'm wondering if there is still an interest in Paris.
> I understand this is old technology, and I realise I'm not going to make
>a killing here. If there are people out there still interested in Paris,
>though...I'd rather the system get used than sit on a shelf here. I would
>have to take an official inventory, and I will if there is interest, but
>off the top of my head:
>
>4 EDS cards
>5 8i input modules
>2 8o output modules (maybe 4)
>4 ADAT modules
>3 MECs
>2 442s
>2 IF2s
>2 C-16s
>3 3.0 software disks
>
>Everything is in either brand new or excellent condition, although one C-16
>shows some paint wear from use. It's all blackface, except for 1 MEC and
>1 8i card. The used C-16 has been relabeled to reflect the "pro" control
>set.
>
>I also have a rack mount computer that currently has a swapable OS and Audio
>drive. I have two OS HDs, one with ME and one with XP. They both are loaded
>with 3.0 software. The ME version will also run Waves Native v. 2 and has
>a dongle for that. It's basically a stable turnkey PARIS system that can
>fit up to 4 EDS cards, but it's pretty old. I'd say an Athlon 1400 or something.
>
>So if anyone could put any of this to use, let me know. I'm in the Washington
>DC area. If there is interest, I will begin testing everything and taking
>photos.
>
>thanks,
>Joe Porto
>mail@joeporto.com
>301-365-2100 (M-F, 10AM-4PM EST)Wile I do agree with Brad and Dave, one thing I shared was a bit misleading.
I have actually been using the Shure 87 wireless series for a couple of years
while touring with Will Downing and others. I have used the mic in large
venues (5,000 plus seating), as well as smaller venues (2,500 and less).
I had not, however used the mic in a small band room/setting (100 to 500
seating type venue).
My statement about the mic being "geared towards inner ear monitoring" could
have been more acurately stated...as it says on the box "...the frequency
response is preferred by in ear monitor users" for those who prefer exact
vebatim. I also followed this detail up with a couple of Shure reps.
Tyrone
("Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Having a mic taylored for in-ears would be like having a
>studio mic best suited to headphones... wouldn't make sense.
>
>The '87 of any suffix is a very good sounding mic, but I
>wouldn't use one for a lead singer in front of a drummer on
>a small stage... this is more of a "concert capsule" you
>need some distance between it and the rest of the band. If
>a condenser is what you are after, also try out a Sennheiser
>EW165G2... the 865 capsule has beaten the Neumann KMS-105 in
>blind listening tests. I have modded a few old Astatic 77's
>with 865 capsules and electronics for a local location guy
>that does a great deal of CMT work... they sound REALLY good.
>
>David.
>
>Tyrone Corbett wrote:
>
>> Hey guys, just wanted to share that I have had the opportunity to use
the
>> Shure SLX 87c and really like it. From what I understand, the primary
difference
>> between the 87A and the 87C is that the 87C is moreso geard towards the
inner
>> ear monitoring systems.
>>
>> Also, like to thank Morgan at East Coast for his assistance! I still maintain
>> my favorite vendors are Morgan Pettinato and Chris Ludwig. Two class acts!
>>
>> TyroneDJ wrote:
> Back in 1999 I worked with Matt Craig on locating the tiny servo motors that
> would be necessary in order to fit them inside a C-16. We did find some, but
> they would have to be ordered in large lots and it would have been too much
> of a cash outlay to justify building a prototype. IIRC, that was one of the
> main reasons Matt scrubbed this project.
I'm not trying to do anything with a C-16... ;-)
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.comNeil wrote:
> By any chance, do you know anything about Massenburg
> Automation systems & how to repair them, as a result of these
> endeavors?
Not yet, but that could change. What's up?
DougDoug Wellington <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>Neil wrote:
>> By any chance, do you know anything about Massenburg
>> Automation systems & how to repair them, as a result of these
>> endeavors?
>
>Not yet, but that could change. What's up?
Friend of mine has a Massenburg Automation system that's giving
him occasional fits. Typical non-supported product issues...
you know, beeyatch to find people who know how to work on it,
there's a diagnostic device that exists, but Rick Rubin has the
only known working one, having to find & fly people in who
worked on the orginal product in order to fix it - shit like
that. Was just thinking if you'd gained any knowledge on these,
I could hook you up.
NeilSerial to midi? Would it be possible to integrate the R-bus that way?
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message
news:46ac0cf8@linux...
> DJ wrote:
>> Back in 1999 I worked with Matt Craig on locating the tiny servo motors
>> that would be necessary in order to fit them inside a C-16. We did find
>> some, but they would have to be ordered in large lots and it would have
>> been too much of a cash outlay to justify building a prototype. IIRC,
>> that was one of the main reasons Matt scrubbed this project.
>
> I'm not trying to do anything with a C-16... ;-)
>
> Doug
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.comFor anybody interested, check out my remixes of Beastie Boys tunes. All fully
mixed and edited on Paris of course... ;o)
http://beastiemixes.com/remixer.php?id=72
Let me know what you think. 3 of the are far more "techno/electro" than I
normally go, but I was kinda asked to do them that way. Anyhow, I'm after
your opinions, not mine...
Cheers,
Kim."DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqRT_kCOLI
>
>
I some other drawings Wiltshire did. Astounding stuff.
personally -- I'm still gonna use photographs...!
-stevesteve the artguy wrote:
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqRT_kCOLI
>>
>>
>
>
> I some other drawings Wiltshire did. Astounding stuff.
>
> personally -- I'm still gonna use photographs...!
>
> -steve
>
>
>
Steve,
If you hear from a guy named Donnie in TX, it's my fault (will be
needing a mural).
Jeff"Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:46abc5b7@linux...
> Check out the Mixerman radio show theme song. The radio show program is
> juvenile at best, but the theme is super cool.
I think all pretense of seriousness went out the window when the second
question was asked.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> http://womb.mixerman.net/showthread.php?p=68697#post68697I have owned a medium bowl, non-cutaway Ovation since about '77, and it
has always been my favorite practice, composition and noodling guitar.
The frets are way past shot, the top is scarred (but not the bowl or
neck), and over the last couple of years it has developed a nasty split
in the top, below the bridge, causing it to buzz on certain pitches. I
treat it shabbily, sometimes even making short car trips sans case.
Recently I read a trade article about overcoming the shortcomings of
Ovation guitars in a recording scenario. The engineer was quite put upon
that he had to work with such a poor sound source (and that was the high
end Adamas model)! I knew it was not considered one of the primo
acoustics on the market, but I never realized just how low its
reputation had sunk. Still, I like mine so a few weeks ago I treated it
to a glue job for the split top at my local luthier's and now I once
again really enjoy playing it.
Just today it dawned on me what I admire about it and why I have never
been more than tempted by the host of "beautiful", all-wood acoustic
flat tops out there. It sounds warm. You could even say it has a "jazz"
tone, or in a rock environment a "brown sound". Many acoustics have a
twangy, grating upper midrange that sounds garish to my ears. My Ovation
has a sophisticated, mellow voice, like Lauren Bacall or Sigourney
Weaver. It responds pluckily to my jaded, but witty pick strokes, and
while its countenance is traditional, its rounded backside is pliant and
accommodating in a way no boxy, all-wood "instrument" could ever be.
Now that I have come to terms with the "forbidden love" of my "vintage"
Ovation, I think I'll get her a fret job. The old girl deserves it.That is some very funny shit. Country people got a sick sense of humor.
DJ wrote:
> Well........OK then......as long as it's not this donkey.......
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dDbNuJ25ZzU&mode=related&a mp;search=
>
>
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a79f5e$1@linux...
>> ROFL!!!
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46a7802f$1@linux...
>>>> What was the Rented Donkey picture? I don't recall ever seeing
>>>> that one.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>> ........or maybe by Chuck????? I can't remember.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:46a75fc5$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hehe indeed...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't suppose anybody has a higher res version of this? They
>>>>>> recommend
>>>>>> 2000x2000 images for tshirts and a minimum of 1000 x , and while we
>> can
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> make do with the original Rented Donkey (which is 600 x something )
>> that
>>>>>> Paris for Dummies is pretty low res and will look like it if put on
>> a
>>>>>> shirt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 600 x Rented Donkey should look acceptable blown up to 1200 x or
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> even 1800 x which would make it big enough to go on a shirt. Any less
>>>> than
>>>>>> that though is gonna hurt methinks...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other
>> cool
>>>>>>>> Paris
>>>>>>>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the
>>>> net
>>>>>>>> if anybody wants one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>Count me in for a shirt or 2.
Kim wrote:
> Hehe yes I can't wait either. I'm a little concerned that I'll have to buy
> all of them. ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Kim and Steve,
>> Count me in for at least one. The donkey one is great.
>> I can't wait to see Steve's others !
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>> news:46a7e440$1@linux...
>>
>> "steve the artguy" <artguy@lugubriosity.org> wrote:
>> >I can dig them out if
>> >you wish.
>>
>> Steve, if you could, that would be gold! I've found a site on the web
> =
>> which
>> lets you submit a design and will make shirts for you in any quantity
> =
>> from
>> 1 upwards. I figure some people around here would no doubt like a =
>> Paris t
>> shirt. I know I would.
>>
>> If you would be willing to search them out and shoot them at my email
> =
>> address
>> that would be just wonderous! :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> <HTML><HEAD>
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim and Steve,</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Count me in for at least one. The =
>> donkey one=20
>> is great.</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can't wait to see Steve's others =
>> !</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV> </DIV>
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>> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
>> =
>> href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>> wrote=20
>> in message <A=20
>> =
>> href=3D"news:46a7e440$1@linux">news:46a7e440$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>"ste=
>> ve the=20
>> artguy" <<A=20
>> =
>> href=3D"mailto:artguy@lugubriosity.org">artguy@lugubriosity.org</A>>=20
>> wrote:<BR>>I can dig them out if<BR>>you wish.<BR><BR>Steve, if =
>> you=20
>> could, that would be gold! I've found a site on the web which<BR>lets
> =
>> you=20
>> submit a design and will make shirts for you in any quantity from<BR>1
> =
>> upwards. I figure some people around here would no doubt like a Paris=20
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>> them out=20
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>> :o)<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.</BLOCKQUOTE>
>> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>> and=20
>> you?<BR><A=20
>> href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
>> .html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>
>>
> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=814197&fr=&cac he=1Bill, that's all well and good, but how do you keep it from sliding off your
lap?
-steve, who never met an Ovation that wouldn't slide off his lap
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I have owned a medium bowl, non-cutaway Ovation since about '77, and it
>has always been my favorite practice, composition and noodling guitar.
>The frets are way past shot, the top is scarred (but not the bowl or
>neck), and over the last couple of years it has developed a nasty split
>in the top, below the bridge, causing it to buzz on certain pitches. I
>treat it shabbily, sometimes even making short car trips sans case.
>
>Recently I read a trade article about overcoming the shortcomings of
>Ovation guitars in a recording scenario. The engineer was quite put upon
>that he had to work with such a poor sound source (and that was the high
>end Adamas model)! I knew it was not considered one of the primo
>acoustics on the market, but I never realized just how low its
>reputation had sunk. Still, I like mine so a few weeks ago I treated it
>to a glue job for the split top at my local luthier's and now I once
>again really enjoy playing it.
>
>Just today it dawned on me what I admire about it and why I have never
>been more than tempted by the host of "beautiful", all-wood acoustic
>flat tops out there. It sounds warm. You could even say it has a "jazz"
>tone, or in a rock environment a "brown sound". Many acoustics have a
>twangy, grating upper midrange that sounds garish to my e
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ars. My Ovation
>has a sophisticated, mellow voice, like Lauren Bacall or Sigourney
>Weaver. It responds pluckily to my jaded, but witty pick strokes, and
>while its countenance is traditional, its rounded backside is pliant and
>accommodating in a way no boxy, all-wood "instrument" could ever be.
>
>Now that I have come to terms with the "forbidden love" of my "vintage"
>Ovation, I think I'll get her a fret job. The old girl deserves it.Double-sided carpet tape.
:D
"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>Bill, that's all well and good, but how do you keep it from sliding off
your
>lap?
>
>-steve, who never met an Ovation that wouldn't slide off his lap
>
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>I have owned a medium bowl, non-cutaway Ovation since about '77, and it
>
>>has always been my favorite practice, composition and noodling guitar.
>>The frets are way past shot, the top is scarred (but not the bowl or
>>neck), and over the last couple of years it has developed a nasty split
>
>>in the top, below the bridge, causing it to buzz on certain pitches. I
>>treat it shabbily, sometimes even making short car trips sans case.
>>
>>Recently I read a trade article about overcoming the shortcomings of
>>Ovation guitars in a recording scenario. The engineer was quite put upon
>
>>that he had to work with such a poor sound source (and that was the high
>
>>end Adamas model)! I knew it was not considered one of the primo
>>acoustics on the market, but I never realized just how low its
>>reputation had sunk. Still, I like mine so a few weeks ago I treated it
>
>>to a glue job for the split top at my local luthier's and now I once
>>again really enjoy playing it.
>>
>>Just today it dawned on me what I admire about it and why I have never
>>been more than tempted by the host of "beautiful", all-wood acoustic
>>flat tops out there. It sounds warm. You could even say it has a "jazz"
>
>>tone, or in a rock environment a "brown sound". Many acoustics have a
>>twangy, grating upper midrange that sounds garish to my ears. My Ovation
>
>>has a sophisticated, mellow voice, like Lauren Bacall or Sigourney
>>Weaver. It responds pluckily to my jaded, but witty pick strokes, and
>>while its countenance is traditional, its rounded backside is pliant and
>
>>accommodating in a way no boxy, all-wood "instrument" could ever be.
>>
>>Now that I have come to terms with the "forbidden love" of my "vintage"
>
>>Ovation, I think I'll get her a fret job. The old girl deserves it.
>Steve,
They say a guitar is like a woman. They don't slide off my lap either.
steve the artguy wrote:
> Bill, that's all well and good, but how do you keep it from sliding off your
> lap?
>
> -steve, who never met an Ovation that wouldn't slide off his lap
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> I have owned a medium bowl, non-cutaway Ovation since about '77, and it
>
>> has always been my favorite practice, composition and noodling guitar.
>> The frets are way past shot, the top is scarred (but not the bowl or
>> neck), and over the last couple of years it has developed a nasty split
>
>> in the top, below the bridge, causing it to buzz on certain pitches. I
>> treat it shabbily, sometimes even making short car trips sans case.
>>
>> Recently I read a trade article about overcoming the shortcomings of
>> Ovation guitars in a recording scenario. The engineer was quite put upon
>
>> that he had to work with such a poor sound source (and that was the high
>
>> end Adamas model)! I knew it was not considered one of the primo
>> acoustics on the market, but I never realized just how low its
>> reputation had sunk. Still, I like mine so a few weeks ago I treated it
>
>> to a glue job for the split top at my local luthier's and now I once
>> again really enjoy playing it.
>>
>> Just today it dawned on me what I admire about it and why I have never
>> been more than tempted by the host of "beautiful", all-wood acoustic
>> flat tops out there. It sounds warm. You could even say it has a "jazz"
>
>> tone, or in a rock environment a "brown sound". Many acoustics have a
>> twangy, grating upper midrange that sounds garish to my ears. My Ovation
>
>> has a sophisticated, mellow voice, like Lauren Bacall or Sigourney
>> Weaver. It responds pluckily to my jaded, but witty pick strokes, and
>> while its countenance is traditional, its rounded backside is pliant and
>
>> accommodating in a way no boxy, all-wood "instrument" could ever be.
>>
>> Now that I have come to terms with the "forbidden love" of my "vintage"
>
>> Ovation, I think I'll get her a fret job. The old girl deserves it.
>I guess someone was bound to try it. Pretty neat.
steve the artguy wrote:
> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=814197&fr=&cac he=1Nice and promising but not quite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DCDrKX4_I
Naturally I am a little prejudiced.
Gene
"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=814197&fr=&cac he=1Yeah, baby, he's playing the blues. Very nice, indeed. I bought his
first record but have not followed him since then. What is he doing
these days?
Funky old Travis Bean, too.
Gene Lennon wrote:
> Nice and promising but not quite:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DCDrKX4_I
>
> Naturally I am a little prejudiced.
>
> Gene
>
> "steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=814197&fr=&cac he=1
>
>
>He certainly fell off the radar. He lives in Arizona, does about 25-30 dates
a year and is no longer signed to a “major”. (Blue Note)
At one point he was one of just a few people in the world that was allowed
to go back and forth from the Carson Show to the Letterman show, he was headlining
the biggest jazz festivals and concerts in the world and was one of the top
selling Jazz artists in the world. After “Blind Date”, he had opportunities
to do other movies, but never did.
He is still quite brilliant and anyone that hasn’t been to a live SJ concert
should make an effort to do so. He was never able to catch the full electricity
he achieves live, on record.
The You Tube clip is from a good DVD:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6376611
I should call him.
Gene
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Yeah, baby, he's playing the blues. Very nice, indeed. I bought his
>first record but have not followed him since then. What is he doing
>these days?
>
>Funky old Travis Bean, too.
>
>Gene Lennon wrote:
>> Nice and promising but not quite:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DCDrKX4_I
>>
>> Naturally I am a little prejudiced.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> "steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=814197&fr=&cac he=1
>>
>>
>>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>steve the artguy wrote:
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqRT_kCOLI
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I
saw. The word "saw" is missing, of course...
>>some other drawings Wiltshire did. Astounding stuff.
>>
>> personally -- I'm still gonna use photographs...!
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>>
>Steve,
>
>If you hear from a guy named Donnie in TX, it's my fault (will be
>needing a mural).
>
>
>Jeff
Jeff-
even if I don't hear from him, thanks! I appreciate it.
-steveHe should make a live record - why don't you propose it to him. It's
hard work to be a successful jazz artist, and doing 25-30 shows a year
ain't gonna get it done unless you're a whole lot more famous than SJ. I
hope he makes a comeback.
Gene Lennon wrote:
> He certainly fell off the radar. He lives in Arizona, does about 25-30 dates
> a year and is no longer signed to a “major”. (Blue Note)
>
> At one point he was one of just a few people in the world that was allowed
> to go back and forth from the Carson Show to the Letterman show, he was headlining
> the biggest jazz festivals and concerts in the world and was one of the top
> selling Jazz artists in the world. After “Blind Date”, he had opportunities
> to do other movies, but never did.
>
> He is still quite brilliant and anyone that hasn’t been to a live SJ concert
> should make an effort to do so. He was never able to catch the full electricity
> he achieves live, on record.
>
> The You Tube clip is from a good DVD:
> http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6376611
>
> I should call him.
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>> Yeah, baby, he's playing the blues. Very nice, indeed. I bought his
>> first record but have not followed him since then. What is he doing
>> these days?
>>
>> Funky old Travis Bean, too.
>>
>> Gene Lennon wrote:
>>> Nice and promising but not quite:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8DCDrKX4_I
>>>
>>> Naturally I am a little prejudiced.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>> "steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>>>> http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=814197&fr=&cac he=1
>>>
>>>
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I don't mix with others in the room anymore. I couldn't stand the =
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or two members visit for
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easy on the hourly rate just for the freedom it provides me. Everyone =
wins this way and
no silly comments in the control room at the most inopportune times.
T.
"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message =
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"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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When mixing I like the concept of make everything louder than =
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Check your inbox
>
>AA
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46a73d18$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Can somebody post or email me the Rented Donkey pic and any other cool
>> Paris
>> pics that might be applicable for a t-shirt design...
>>
>> ...gonna get some shirts made. :o) They'll likely be for sale on the net
>> if anybody wants one.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future tracking/mixing
app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency compensation,
or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded in
Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what little
processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a whole
when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any processing.
I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more "musical".
After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass were
a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the latency
compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
Anyone else have this issue?Save the project, close Nuendo and relaunch the application. Sometimes PDC
just gets a mind of it's own and needs to have it's ass kicked.
;o)
"mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
news:46ae4adc$1@linux...
>
> I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future
> tracking/mixing
> app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency
> compensation,
> or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded in
> Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what
> little
> processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a
> whole
> when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any
> processing.
> I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more
> "musical".
> After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass were
> a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
> I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the
> latency
> compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
>
> Anyone else have this issue?
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
> Friend of mine has a Massenburg Automation system that's giving
> him occasional fits. Typical non-supported product issues...
> you know, beeyatch to find people who know how to work on it,
> there's a diagnostic device that exists, but Rick Rubin has the
> only known working one, having to find & fly people in who
> worked on the orginal product in order to fix it - shit like
> that. Was just thinking if you'd gained any knowledge on these,
> I could hook you up.
Well, at the moment, I know nothing about how the Massenburg works. I'll
keep my ear to the ground and if I learn anything about it, I'll let you
know. Right now I have a couple projects on the bench - a custom foot
controller (22 buttons, four line VFD) and a 16+1 motorized fader control
panel. Both were originally designed to go with the Looperlative LP1, but
have expanded a *bit* beyond that...
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.com> Serial to midi? Would it be possible to integrate the R-bus that way?
R-bus? Roland's R-Bus?
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.comYeah!!
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message
news:46ae5f08@linux...
>> Serial to midi? Would it be possible to integrate the R-bus that way?
>
> R-bus? Roland's R-Bus?
>
> Doug
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.com
>Thanks, I'll try that.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Save the project, close Nuendo and relaunch the application. Sometimes PDC
>just gets a mind of it's own and needs to have it's ass kicked.
>
>;o)
>
>"mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
>news:46ae4adc$1@linux...
>>
>> I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future
>> tracking/mixing
>> app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency
>> compensation,
>> or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded
in
>> Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what
>> little
>> processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a
>> whole
>> when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any
>> processing.
>> I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more
>> "musical".
>> After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass
were
>> a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
>> I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the
>> latency
>> compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
>>
>> Anyone else have this issue?
>>
>>
>
>It may depend on the plugins you are using - some may be off in their delay
report to the PDC engine. Never had an issue with PDC here other than a few
times when inserting a UAD-1 plugin during playback (PDC can't calculate the
delay during playback, but once stopped and restarted, all is well).
Dedric
On 7/30/07 5:58 PM, in article 46ae7b0a$1@linux, "Mikep"
<mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, I'll try that.
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>> Save the project, close Nuendo and relaunch the application. Sometimes PDC
>
>> just gets a mind of it's own and needs to have it's ass kicked.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote in message
>> news:46ae4adc$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future
>
>>> tracking/mixing
>>> app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency
>>> compensation,
>>> or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded
> in
>>> Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what
>>> little
>>> processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a
>
>>> whole
>>> when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any
>>> processing.
>>> I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more
>>> "musical".
>>> After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass
> were
>>> a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
>>> I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the
>>> latency
>>> compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
>>>
>>> Anyone else have this issue?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>> R-bus? Roland's R-Bus?
>
> Yeah!!
Hmmm, let me see what I can do. I have lots of R-Bus stuff, so I can
envision all kinds of fun projects. :-) So, what are you trying to
accomplish?
I recently bought an older, but still quite nice, logic analyzer. I've
been having fun watching the signals go by on the various lines of the
EDS cables. Hopefully I can finish up the EDS to dual-ADAT converter
one of these years. I wonder how many of those I can fit in a 1U box...
Doug (Anybody happen to have any venture capital just lying about?)
http://www.parisfaqs.comWe appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power for
a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long we
were out for...
....but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
Cheers,
KimSorry guys, this is probably been done to death, but how do you reset the
VST path to go nowhere? I want to make things a little quicker on bootup by
not having Paris look at VSTs since I am doing all my mixing in Nuendo and
doing a final sum and vocal ride in Paris.
I go to 'Set VST path' in the menu and it directs you to an explorer window
with an 'open' button, however there's nothing to open ie. it doesn't
respond to opening a folder. I guess I could go back and RTFM but maybe its
changed under XP.
David.I think you can edit your Paris.cfg file and set it to:
VSTDirectory=
instead of
VSTDirectory=C:\vsts\
or whatever you had.I don't have any VST entry in my config. file. But I'll put that in and give
it a shot. Thanks.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46afc40a$1@linux...
>
> I think you can edit your Paris.cfg file and set it to:
>
> VSTDirectory=
>
> instead of
>
> VSTDirectory=C:\vsts\
> or whatever you had.Thanks John. That did the trick. With DX plugs and VSTs disabled it loads in
about a quarter of the time.
"espresso" <audio@espressodigital.com> wrote in message
news:46afc853$1@linux...
>I don't have any VST entry in my config. file. But I'll put that in and
>give it a shot. Thanks.
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46afc40a$1@linux...
>>
>> I think you can edit your Paris.cfg file and set it to:
>>
>> VSTDirectory=
>>
>> instead of
>>
>> VSTDirectory=C:\vsts\
>> or whatever you had.
>
>Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that long
so I'm a little concerned...
Cheers,
Kim.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power
for
>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long
we
>were out for...
>
>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>KimThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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'nuf said... ;-)
David.
Kim wrote:
> Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that long
> so I'm a little concerned...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power
>
> for
>
>>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long
>
> we
>
>>were out for...
>>
>>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim
>
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--------------090107080808030405050603--"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>'nuf said... ;-)
But it's only, err, well, a year or so old! Not even I don't think. Probably
about a year. Surely the battery can't have gone already...
And the weird thing was that the router DID keep going, only the server dropped
off and wouldn't start up again. Now I did test it just the other day but
only for a few minutes and it held up fine. It is likely of course that the
UPS only drains the battery slightly every now and again so perhaps the
battery has gotten a memory already, but why the router was running and the
server was not I'm not sure. Perhaps the server PSU is a little suspect,
though it never gives trouble when running on mains.
>
>David.
>
>Kim wrote:
>> Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that
long
>> so I'm a little concerned...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power
>>
>> for
>>
>>>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long
>>
>> we
>>
>>>were out for...
>>>
>>>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim
>>
>>
>Kim,
Might want to check the settings for when the UPS kicks in. I've had a
couple of time when the server PSU was less tolerant than fluctuations
the UPS would let pass.
Jeff
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>'nuf said... ;-)
>
>
> But it's only, err, well, a year or so old! Not even I don't think. Probably
> about a year. Surely the battery can't have gone already...
>
> And the weird thing was that the router DID keep going, only the server dropped
> off and wouldn't start up again. Now I did test it just the other day but
> only for a few minutes and it held up fine. It is likely of course that the
> UPS only drains the battery slightly every now and again so perhaps the
> battery has gotten a memory already, but why the router was running and the
> server was not I'm not sure. Perhaps the server PSU is a little suspect,
> though it never gives trouble when running on mains.
>
>
>>David.
>>
>>Kim wrote:
>>
>>>Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that
>
> long
>
>>>so I'm a little concerned...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power
>>>
>>>for
>>>
>>>
>>>>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long
>>>
>>>we
>>>
>>>
>>>>were out for...
>>>>
>>>>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim
>>>
>>>
>Maybe you should plug the beer fridge into it's OWN UPS...
David.
Kim wrote:
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>'nuf said... ;-)
>
>
> But it's only, err, well, a year or so old! Not even I don't think. Probably
> about a year. Surely the battery can't have gone already...
>
> And the weird thing was that the router DID keep going, only the server dropped
> off and wouldn't start up again. Now I did test it just the other day but
> only for a few minutes and it held up fine. It is likely of course that the
> UPS only drains the battery slightly every now and again so perhaps the
> battery has gotten a memory already, but why the router was running and the
> server was not I'm not sure. Perhaps the server PSU is a little suspect,
> though it never gives trouble when running on mains.
>
>
>>David.
>>
>>Kim wrote:
>>
>>>Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that
>
> long
>
>>>so I'm a little concerned...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power
>>>
>>>for
>>>
>>>
>>>>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long
>>>
>>>we
>>>
>>>
>>>>were out for...
>>>>
>>>>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim
>>>
>>>
>Jeff,
The power was 100% out, as nothing in the house had any power, however the
router was still running. Now the router has a switch mode PSU that would
likely tolerate nearly anything between about 20v and 280VAC so it wouldn't
be much of a test, but the computer wouldn't power on.
I will do some further testing in the next couple of days. At least test
that we have ten minutes backup time to cover glitches. Maybe the UPS battery
could use a full cycle to get it back up to scratch.
Cheers,
Kim.
>Kim,
>
>Might want to check the settings for when the UPS kicks in. I've had a
>couple of time when the server PSU was less tolerant than fluctuations
>the UPS would let pass.
>
>
>Jeff
>
>
>
>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>'nuf said... ;-)
>>
>>
>> But it's only, err, well, a year or so old! Not even I don't think. Probably
>> about a year. Surely the battery can't have gone already...
>>
>> And the weird thing was that the router DID keep going, only the server
dropped
>> off and wouldn't start up again. Now I did test it just the other day
but
>> only for a few minutes and it held up fine. It is likely of course that
the
>> UPS only drains the battery slightly every now and again so perhaps the
>> battery has gotten a memory already, but why the router was running and
the
>> server was not I'm not sure. Perhaps the server PSU is a little suspect,
>> though it never gives trouble when running on mains.
>>
>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that
>>
>> long
>>
>>>>so I'm a little concerned...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power
>>>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long
>>>>
>>>>we
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>were out for...
>>>>>
>>>>>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>
>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Maybe you should plug the beer fridge into it's OWN UPS...
>
>David.
Hehe, I'm rather ashamed to say that the beer fridge is (outrageously) OFF
at the moment. It's winter and I'm trying not to drink continually for a
bit. Come summer it will be back...
....but it's not on the UPS in any case, as I'm sure you knew. ;o) Only the
router and the server itself are on it. Not even the monitor for the server.
Cheers,
Kim.
>
>Kim wrote:
>
>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>'nuf said... ;-)
>>
>>
>> But it's only, err, well, a year or so old! Not even I don't think. Probably
>> about a year. Surely the battery can't have gone already...
>>
>> And the weird thing was that the router DID keep going, only the server
dropped
>> off and wouldn't start up again. Now I did test it just the other day
but
>> only for a few minutes and it held up fine. It is likely of course that
the
>> UPS only drains the battery slightly every now and again so perhaps the
>> battery has gotten a memory already, but why the router was running and
the
>> server was not I'm not sure. Perhaps the server PSU is a little suspect,
>> though it never gives trouble when running on mains.
>>
>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>
>>>>Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that
>>
>> long
>>
>>>>so I'm a little concerned...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power
>>>>
>>>>for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long
>>>>
>>>>we
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>were out for...
>>>>>
>>>>>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>
>>Kim,
I would assume the UPS uses a Gel cel or car type battery, not a nicad, so
there would be no memory effect or the need to recycle.
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:46b018e2$1@linux...
>
> Jeff,
>
> The power was 100% out, as nothing in the house had any power, however the
> router was still running. Now the router has a switch mode PSU that would
> likely tolerate nearly anything between about 20v and 280VAC so it
> wouldn't
> be much of a test, but the computer wouldn't power on.
>
> I will do some further testing in the next couple of days. At least test
> that we have ten minutes backup time to cover glitches. Maybe the UPS
> battery
> could use a full cycle to get it back up to scratch.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>
>>Kim,
>>
>>Might want to check the settings for when the UPS kicks in. I've had a
>
>>couple of time when the server PSU was less tolerant than fluctuations
>>the UPS would let pass.
>>
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>'nuf said... ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> But it's only, err, well, a year or so old! Not even I don't think.
>>> Probably
>>> about a year. Surely the battery can't have gone already...
>>>
>>> And the weird thing was that the router DID keep going, only the server
> dropped
>>> off and wouldn't start up again. Now I did test it just the other day
> but
>>> only for a few minutes and it held up fine. It is likely of course that
> the
>>> UPS only drains the battery slightly every now and again so perhaps the
>>> battery has gotten a memory already, but why the router was running and
> the
>>> server was not I'm not sure. Perhaps the server PSU is a little suspect,
>>> though it never gives trouble when running on mains.
>>>
>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that
>>>
>>> long
>>>
>>>>>so I'm a little concerned...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the
>>>>>>power
>>>>>
>>>>>for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how
>>>>>>long
>>>>>
>>>>>we
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>were out for...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
--Kim,
Gotcha, I didn't realize it had run for a period of time. I've had
servers that when the fail over happened, the voltage sagged enough on
initial power loss that the server would just crash. Not typically an
issue once the battery has taken over.
Jeff
> Jeff,
>
> The power was 100% out, as nothing in the house had any power, however the
> router was still running. Now the router has a switch mode PSU that would
> likely tolerate nearly anything between about 20v and 280VAC so it wouldn't
> be much of a test, but the computer wouldn't power on.
>
> I will do some further testing in the next couple of days. At least test
> that we have ten minutes backup time to cover glitches. Maybe the UPS battery
> could use a full cycle to get it back up to scratch.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>
>
>>Kim,
>>
>>Might want to check the settings for when the UPS kicks in. I've had a
>
>
>>couple of time when the server PSU was less tolerant than fluctuations
>>the UPS would let pass.
>>
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>'nuf said... ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>But it's only, err, well, a year or so old! Not even I don't think. Probably
>>>about a year. Surely the battery can't have gone already...
>>>
>>>And the weird thing was that the router DID keep going, only the server
>
> dropped
>
>>>off and wouldn't start up again. Now I did test it just the other day
>
> but
>
>>>only for a few minutes and it held up fine. It is likely of course that
>
> the
>
>>>UPS only drains the battery slightly every now and again so perhaps the
>>>battery has gotten a memory already, but why the router was running and
>
> the
>
>>>server was not I'm not sure. Perhaps the server PSU is a little suspect,
>>>though it never gives trouble when running on mains.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Apparently the power was only out for 1 hr 20. The UPS should last that
>>>
>>>long
>>>
>>>
>>>>>so I'm a little concerned...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>We appear to be having some kind of wind strom which took out the power
>>>>>
>>>>>for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>a bit, and was a bit beyond the abilities of the UPS. Not sure how long
>>>>>
>>>>>we
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>were out for...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...but we're back, and the UPS is charging again. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>Hi,
I'm pretty much decided that I'm after an RME Fireface 400 (with Cubase 4
or SX 3). This will be a supplement to my Paris rig, and I suspect I'll gradually
phase out Paris (sob). Lack of non-native inserts on subgroups and master
bus, lack of latency compensation, no support for 96 k, etc, is getting a
bit frustrating.
Anyone have any experience with the FF400? How does audio quality stand up
to Paris? I'm not too concerned about the pres as I've got a DAV BG2 and
an SPL Gold Mike (Mk 1). Most critical is A/D and D/A quality; also stability
(I'll be using it with a Dell XPS 2.0 ghz 2 gig ram laptop).
Any thoughts / experience on how the converters of the FF stack up against
Paris, Metric Halo 2882, or any of the Firewire interface competition - e.g.
Focusrite Saffire 26 (which seems to have a killer featureset, I'm just worried
about compromise on quality), Makie 400F, etc.
Many thanks,
DanHi,
I fear the answer is no, but has anyone been able to use the C-16 with anything
that's not Paris? It's a great control surface (apart from the lack of motorised
faders), and if I move away I'm REALLY going to miss that weighted jog shuttle
wheel!
Any inexpensive alternative? I already have a 16 channel Kenton Control Freak
(MIDI controller with 16 x 60mm faders, and some programmable buttons and
a data scroller), but a jog shuttle wheel would be sweet. Any other thoughts?
I'm using Cubase SX 3 (and may go to 4).
Cheers,
DanThe C16 doesn't work with anything else unfortunately. I think what you want
is this:
http://www.mackie.com/products/mcu/index.html
or
http://emusician.com/controlsurfaces/Sonar_Support_for_PreSo nus_FaderPort/
or
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/tag/cubase/
or
http://www.frontierdesign.com/Products/AlphaTrackThanks John - v helpful!
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>The C16 doesn't work with anything else unfortunately. I think what you
want
>is this:
>
>http://www.mackie.com/products/mcu/index.html
>
>or
>
> http://emusician.com/controlsurfaces/Sonar_Support_for_PreSo nus_FaderPort/
>
>or
>
>http://www.synthtopia.com/content/tag/cubase/
>
>or
>
>http://www.frontierdesign.com/Products/AlphaTrackIs it possible that you have the latency turned off? There is a button that
will do that.
David LOops - I meant latency compensation, not latency...
David LWhat's the fastest way to get these into Paris?"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:
>What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
A wav cannon?
:)Terrific...
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b09809$1@linux...
>
> "Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:
>
>>What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
>
> A wav cannon?
>
> :)Sandy.....IIRC........
launch paris
create a project with the sample rate set to 48k and create a folder for
this project
go to file>import and navigate to the .wav files you want to import
when you click on them, they will import and Paris will create 48k .paf's in
your project.
It's been a while, but I think that what happens.
..........if not, go to WalMart and buy a .wav cannon. they're cheapies
because they're made in china, but if you will only be using it a time or
two, it should do the job. ;o)
good luck,
Deej
"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
news:46b09015@linux...
> What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
>Excellent...
I was gonna try the Wavelab batch process, but I needed to find my Wavelab
install disc.
Thanks!
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46b09a2d$1@linux...
> Sandy.....IIRC........
>
> launch paris
>
> create a project with the sample rate set to 48k and create a folder for
> this project
>
> go to file>import and navigate to the .wav files you want to import
>
> when you click on them, they will import and Paris will create 48k .paf's
> in your project.
>
> It's been a while, but I think that what happens.
>
> .........if not, go to WalMart and buy a .wav cannon. they're cheapies
> because they're made in china, but if you will only be using it a time or
> two, it should do the job. ;o)
>
> good luck,
>
> Deej
>
>
>
> "Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
> news:46b09015@linux...
>> What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
>>
>
>Sandy, you may have to use stripwav to get rid of the extra header info that
wavelab adds. I've been batching 44.1 waves into 44.1 paf lately and works
fine, note sure about 48 though.
Rob
"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
news:46b098de$1@linux...
> Terrific...
>
> "Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b09809$1@linux...
>>
>> "Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:
>>
>>>What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
>>
>> A wav cannon?
>>
>> :)
>
>There is a selection in the options area of Wavelab that you can
deselect "optimize files headers" or something to that effect.
David.
Rob Arsenault wrote:
> Sandy, you may have to use stripwav to get rid of the extra header info that
> wavelab adds. I've been batching 44.1 waves into 44.1 paf lately and works
> fine, note sure about 48 though.
> Rob
>
> "Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
> news:46b098de$1@linux...
>
>>Terrific...
>>
>>"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b09809$1@linux...
>>
>>>"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
>>>
>>>A wav cannon?
>>>
>>>:)
>>
>>
>
>HI Dan,
The lowest latency Firewire device with the most most robust and
supported drivers is the Fireface 400 or 800 series by far.
Sound quality of the AD/DA is excellent for the price range it is in.
As for features RME and MOTU have the most overall functional features.
The closest unit from MOTU that I think compares to the Fireface would
be the 896HD.
RME and MOTU are the only ones able to get stable lower latencies on the
majority of the machines. mainly because they are both proprietary
firewire protocols unlike the rest who all use a couple generic chip and
driver protocols and just slap their logo on it.
In general I think RME and Lynx have the best tech support and driver
development around.
As for overall sound quality on the lower end ones.
I think the these are the best of the bunch.
TC Konnekt 24d (IMHO best sounding of the cheaper ones)
Mackie Onyx 400f
Tascam FW1804
M-Audio FW410 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
M-Audio FW1814 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
They all some combination of hardware compatibility, driver issues,
programs support issues but of course so does Paris.
Chris
dan b wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm pretty much decided that I'm after an RME Fireface 400 (with Cubase 4
> or SX 3). This will be a supplement to my Paris rig, and I suspect I'll gradually
> phase out Paris (sob). Lack of non-native inserts on subgroups and master
> bus, lack of latency compensation, no support for 96 k, etc, is getting a
> bit frustrating.
>
> Anyone have any experience with the FF400? How does audio quality stand up
> to Paris? I'm not too concerned about the pres as I've got a DAV BG2 and
> an SPL Gold Mike (Mk 1). Most critical is A/D and D/A quality; also stability
> (I'll be using it with a Dell XPS 2.0 ghz 2 gig ram laptop).
>
> Any thoughts / experience on how the converters of the FF stack up against
> Paris, Metric Halo 2882, or any of the Firewire interface competition - e.g.
> Focusrite Saffire 26 (which seems to have a killer featureset, I'm just worried
> about compromise on quality), Makie 400F, etc.
>
> Many thanks,
> Dan
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comHi Dan,
The Mackie will have the best overall function support with any of the
DAW software.
Chris
dan b wrote:
> Hi,
> I fear the answer is no, but has anyone been able to use the C-16 with anything
> that's not Paris? It's a great control surface (apart from the lack of motorised
> faders), and if I move away I'm REALLY going to miss that weighted jog shuttle
> wheel!
>
> Any inexpensive alternative? I already have a 16 channel Kenton Control Freak
> (MIDI controller with 16 x 60mm faders, and some programmable buttons and
> a data scroller), but a jog shuttle wheel would be sweet. Any other thoughts?
> I'm using Cubase SX 3 (and may go to 4).
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comIs there a bug (feature) associated w/ the Automation Edit window that I've
forgotten about? I was working on a project yesterday and almost everytime
I either switched views or closed the automation window Paris crashed. It's
been behaving so well lately that I was shocked! It's an old ADAT transfer
project so it's 48K sample rate. Might that have something to do ith it?
I need to figure it out so I can finsh mixing this darned tune!
Thanks,
ganttIt seems to me that you can't directly import 24 bit WAV files into Paris.
16 bit is OK. I'm a Mac so I use Soniqworx or Bias Peak to convert to PAFs.
Don't buy the Chinese .wav cannons. Their made out of pot metal and backfire
more often than not.
Gantt
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Sandy.....IIRC........
>
>launch paris
>
>create a project with the sample rate set to 48k and create a folder for
>this project
>
>go to file>import and navigate to the .wav files you want to import
>
>when you click on them, they will import and Paris will create 48k .paf's
in
>your project.
>
>It's been a while, but I think that what happens.
>
>.........if not, go to WalMart and buy a .wav cannon. they're cheapies
>because they're made in china, but if you will only be using it a time or
>two, it should do the job. ;o)
>
>good luck,
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
>news:46b09015@linux...
>> What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
>>
>
>Oops. I meant to say "I'm a Mac _GUY_...". I am not, actually, a Mac.
Gantt
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>It seems to me that you can't directly import 24 bit WAV files into Paris.
> 16 bit is OK. I'm a Mac so I use Soniqworx or Bias Peak to convert to
PAFs.
>
>
>Don't buy the Chinese .wav cannons. Their made out of pot metal and backfire
>more often than not.
>
>Gantt
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Sandy.....IIRC........
>>
>>launch paris
>>
>>create a project with the sample rate set to 48k and create a folder for
>
>>this project
>>
>>go to file>import and navigate to the .wav files you want to import
>>
>>when you click on them, they will import and Paris will create 48k .paf's
>in
>>your project.
>>
>>It's been a while, but I think that what happens.
>>
>>.........if not, go to WalMart and buy a .wav cannon. they're cheapies
>>because they're made in china, but if you will only be using it a time
or
>
>>two, it should do the job. ;o)
>>
>>good luck,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
>>news:46b09015@linux...
>>> What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
>>>
>>
>>
>This is how I do it -- happy batching...
chas.
On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:33:27 -0500, "Sandy Tipping"
<tippsand@earthling.net> wrote:
>Excellent...
>
>I was gonna try the Wavelab batch process, but I needed to find my Wavelab
>install disc.
>
>Thanks!
>Paris will take these files and convert them to 24 bit .paf files before
importing them.
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46b0c66f$1@linux...
>
> It seems to me that you can't directly import 24 bit WAV files into Paris.
> 16 bit is OK. I'm a Mac so I use Soniqworx or Bias Peak to convert to
> PAFs.
>
>
> Don't buy the Chinese .wav cannons. Their made out of pot metal and
> backfire
> more often than not.
>
> Gantt
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Sandy.....IIRC........
>>
>>launch paris
>>
>>create a project with the sample rate set to 48k and create a folder for
>
>>this project
>>
>>go to file>import and navigate to the .wav files you want to import
>>
>>when you click on them, they will import and Paris will create 48k .paf's
> in
>>your project.
>>
>>It's been a while, but I think that what happens.
>>
>>.........if not, go to WalMart and buy a .wav cannon. they're cheapies
>>because they're made in china, but if you will only be using it a time or
>
>>two, it should do the job. ;o)
>>
>>good luck,
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>"Sandy Tipping" <tippsand@earthling.net> wrote in message
>>news:46b09015@linux...
>>> What's the fastest way to get these into Paris?
>>>
>>
>>
>That's Weird. I don't know of any bugs like that. I don't do 48k that much
though, but it shouldn't make a difference. If anything, I'd think 48 would
be more stable since that's kind of what Paris was designed to run at. Sounds
like it may a vid card conflct or funkyness.
Rod
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Is there a bug (feature) associated w/ the Automation Edit window that I've
>forgotten about? I was working on a project yesterday and almost everytime
>I either switched views or closed the automation window Paris crashed.
It's
>been behaving so well lately that I was shocked! It's an old ADAT transfer
>project so it's 48K sample rate. Might that have something to do ith it?
> I need to figure it out so I can finsh mixing this darned tune!
>
>Thanks,
>
>ganttYes, it is weird. I don't do 48K much either. It frequently stops "to reset
hardware parameters" when I'm in 48K and makes occasional funny noises, but
this is a new one on me...
Gantt
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>That's Weird. I don't know of any bugs like that. I don't do 48k that much
>though, but it shouldn't make a difference. If anything, I'd think 48 would
>be more stable since that's kind of what Paris was designed to run at. Sounds
>like it may a vid card conflct or funkyness.
>Rod
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Is there a bug (feature) associated w/ the Automation Edit window that
I've
>>forgotten about? I was working on a project yesterday and almost everytime
>>I either switched views or closed the automation window Paris crashed.
>It's
>>been behaving so well lately that I was shocked! It's an old ADAT transfer
>>project so it's 48K sample rate. Might that have something to do ith it?
>> I need to figure it out so I can finsh mixing this darned tune!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>gantt
>No, it is definately on. It is correcting, just not enough.
"David L" <david@revealaudio.com> wrote:
>Oops - I meant latency compensation, not latency...
>
>David LHI Mike,
You make no mention of what audio interface or OS, plug ins or version
of Nuendo you are using.
Any or all of these can effect how good or bad PDc will function.
Chris
mikep wrote:
> I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future tracking/mixing
> app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency compensation,
> or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded in
> Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what little
> processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a whole
> when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any processing.
> I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more "musical".
> After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass were
> a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
> I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the latency
> compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
>
> Anyone else have this issue?
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762I'd also be curious to know exactly which plugins or kinds of
plugins he's talking about. Is he talking about a compressor or
other type of dynamics plugin - in which case there shouldn't
be any perceptible difference - or is he talking about a time-
based plugin like a chorus, which by design will delay the
signal a little bit on the processed portion, and if he had
that effect set on "mostly wet", then yeah it's going to sound
like it's running behind the beat a little bit - perhaps by as
much as double-digit milliseconds.
Neil
Chris Ludwig oaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Mike,
>You make no mention of what audio interface or OS, plug ins or version
>of Nuendo you are using.
>Any or all of these can effect how good or bad PDc will function.
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>
>mikep wrote:
>> I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future
tracking/mixing
>> app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency compensation,
>> or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded
in
>> Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what little
>> processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a
whole
>> when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any processing.
>> I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more "musical".
>> After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass
were
>> a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
>> I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the latency
>> compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
>>
>> Anyone else have this issue?
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762I had this problem on a couple of occasions and it turned out
not to be with the automation window, but in the edit window
where I was punching in freeform mode, and hadn't closed
freeform mode before saving & closing the project. Could this
be the case in this instance?
Neil
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Yes, it is weird. I don't do 48K much either. It frequently stops "to
reset
>hardware parameters" when I'm in 48K and makes occasional funny noises,
but
>this is a new one on me...
>
>Gantt
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>That's Weird. I don't know of any bugs like that. I don't do 48k that much
>>though, but it shouldn't make a difference. If anything, I'd think 48 would
>>be more stable since that's kind of what Paris was designed to run at.
Sounds
>>like it may a vid card conflct or funkyness.
>>Rod
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Is there a bug (feature) associated w/ the Automation Edit window that
>I've
>>>forgotten about? I was working on a project yesterday and almost everytime
>>>I either switched views or closed the automation window Paris crashed.
>
>>It's
>>>been behaving so well lately that I was shocked! It's an old ADAT transfer
>>>project so it's 48K sample rate. Might that have something to do ith
it?
>>> I need to figure it out so I can finsh mixing this darned tune!
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>gantt
>>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>There is a selection in the options area of Wavelab that you can
>deselect "optimize files headers" or something to that effect.
No, no, no... it's the "Optimize for Wav Cannons" option you're
thinking about.
:DNo, I don't think so... I'll check, but I 'm fairly certain that the edit
window was in 'constrained' mode.
Gantt
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I had this problem on a couple of occasions and it turned out
>not to be with the automation window, but in the edit window
>where I was punching in freeform mode, and hadn't closed
>freeform mode before saving & closing the project. Could this
>be the case in this instance?
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Yes, it is weird. I don't do 48K much either. It frequently stops "to
>reset
>>hardware parameters" when I'm in 48K and makes occasional funny noises,
>but
>>this is a new one on me...
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>That's Weird. I don't know of any bugs like that. I don't do 48k that
much
>>>though, but it shouldn't make a difference. If anything, I'd think 48
would
>>>be more stable since that's kind of what Paris was designed to run at.
>Sounds
>>>like it may a vid card conflct or funkyness.
>>>Rod
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Is there a bug (feature) associated w/ the Automation Edit window that
>>I've
>>>>forgotten about? I was working on a project yesterday and almost everytime
>>>>I either switched views or closed the automation window Paris crashed.
>>
>>>It's
>>>>been behaving so well lately that I was shocked! It's an old ADAT transfer
>>>>project so it's 48K sample rate. Might that have something to do ith
>it?
>>>> I need to figure it out so I can finsh mixing this darned tune!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>gantt
>>>
>>
>HI Niel,
If they are older VST or X plug-ins then they do not report latency so
the program has to pretty much wing it.
If there are plug-ins that have some form of FT or look ahead processing
which many mastering Es and compressors have or convolution based plug
ins will some times have very high buffers that add to the plug ins
latency. If a plug in or host pap is working right then adding a time
based effects will behave no different than a hard ware time based
effect would in an analog mixer.If he is monitoring an audio signal or
playing a VST instrument in real time then any plug ins added to that
signal that add that extra buffer will add up to a much higher latency
on the output signal. The plug in with the highest buffer will be the
output latency of the whole signal chain. So say if you had a 100 tracks
with comps and es and revers, etc that do not have any large buffer
added the in to out of PD will only be 1-2 ms difference normally. If
there is a large buffer plug in anywhere in the project even if it is
bypassed the buffer can add sometime up to 6ms to the output latency.
This is of course only an issue if you trying to monitor the effect on a
live signal of playing a VSTi. There should be if everything is working
right no latencies happening in the internal signal chain of the host pap.
Some of the better sound cards will actually report the AD/DA latency as
part of the driver latency. This will some time mis-lead people into
think that the device they use that does not report this is able to play
at a lower latency that it really is.
Chris
Neil wrote:
> I'd also be curious to know exactly which plugins or kinds of
> plugins he's talking about. Is he talking about a compressor or
> other type of dynamics plugin - in which case there shouldn't
> be any perceptible difference - or is he talking about a time-
> based plugin like a chorus, which by design will delay the
> signal a little bit on the processed portion, and if he had
> that effect set on "mostly wet", then yeah it's going to sound
> like it's running behind the beat a little bit - perhaps by as
> much as double-digit milliseconds.
>
> Neil
>
>
> Chris Ludwig oaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> HI Mike,
>> You make no mention of what audio interface or OS, plug ins or version
>> of Nuendo you are using.
>> Any or all of these can effect how good or bad PDc will function.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> mikep wrote:
>>
>>> I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future
>>>
> tracking/mixing
>
>>> app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency compensation,
>>> or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded
>>>
> in
>
>>> Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what little
>>> processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a
>>>
> whole
>
>>> when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any processing.
>>> I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more "musical".
>>> After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass
>>>
> were
>
>>> a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
>>> I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the latency
>>> compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
>>>
>>> Anyone else have this issue?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Thanks Chris. Most helpful. I think it's going to be the FF400 then. I'll
be interested to see how the A/D D/A stacks up against the 24bit Paris 8
I/O cards. I guess I'm also going to spend some time scratching my head over
how best to combine, integrate and sync the two systems (adat sync, clocked
from the RME? lightpipe and spdif audio transfers, i guess)
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>HI Dan,
>
>The lowest latency Firewire device with the most most robust and
>supported drivers is the Fireface 400 or 800 series by far.
>Sound quality of the AD/DA is excellent for the price range it is in.
>As for features RME and MOTU have the most overall functional features.
>The closest unit from MOTU that I think compares to the Fireface would
>be the 896HD.
>
>RME and MOTU are the only ones able to get stable lower latencies on the
>majority of the machines. mainly because they are both proprietary
>firewire protocols unlike the rest who all use a couple generic chip and
>driver protocols and just slap their logo on it.
>
>In general I think RME and Lynx have the best tech support and driver
>development around.
>
>As for overall sound quality on the lower end ones.
>I think the these are the best of the bunch.
>TC Konnekt 24d (IMHO best sounding of the cheaper ones)
>Mackie Onyx 400f
>Tascam FW1804
>M-Audio FW410 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
>M-Audio FW1814 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
>
>They all some combination of hardware compatibility, driver issues,
>programs support issues but of course so does Paris.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>dan b wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm pretty much decided that I'm after an RME Fireface 400 (with Cubase
4
>> or SX 3). This will be a supplement to my Paris rig, and I suspect I'll
gradually
>> phase out Paris (sob). Lack of non-native inserts on subgroups and master
>> bus, lack of latency compensation, no support for 96 k, etc, is getting
a
>> bit frustrating.
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with the FF400? How does audio quality stand
up
>> to Paris? I'm not too concerned about the pres as I've got a DAV BG2 and
>> an SPL Gold Mike (Mk 1). Most critical is A/D and D/A quality; also stability
>> (I'll be using it with a Dell XPS 2.0 ghz 2 gig ram laptop).
>>
>> Any thoughts / experience on how the converters of the FF stack up against
>> Paris, Metric Halo 2882, or any of the Firewire interface competition
- e.g.
>> Focusrite Saffire 26 (which seems to have a killer featureset, I'm just
worried
>> about compromise on quality), Makie 400F, etc.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Dan
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.comChris,
Have you had a chance to try the new Prismsound FW interface? Surely you got
a couple of those just laying around gathering dust, right?
;o)
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:46b0b621$1@linux...
>
> HI Dan,
>
> The lowest latency Firewire device with the most most robust and supported
> drivers is the Fireface 400 or 800 series by far.
> Sound quality of the AD/DA is excellent for the price range it is in.
> As for features RME and MOTU have the most overall functional features.
> The closest unit from MOTU that I think compares to the Fireface would be
> the 896HD.
>
> RME and MOTU are the only ones able to get stable lower latencies on the
> majority of the machines. mainly because they are both proprietary
> firewire protocols unlike the rest who all use a couple generic chip and
> driver protocols and just slap their logo on it.
>
> In general I think RME and Lynx have the best tech support and driver
> development around.
>
> As for overall sound quality on the lower end ones.
> I think the these are the best of the bunch.
> TC Konnekt 24d (IMHO best sounding of the cheaper ones)
> Mackie Onyx 400f
> Tascam FW1804
> M-Audio FW410 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
> M-Audio FW1814 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
>
> They all some combination of hardware compatibility, driver issues,
> programs support issues but of course so does Paris.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> dan b wrote:
>> Hi, I'm pretty much decided that I'm after an RME Fireface 400 (with
>> Cubase 4
>> or SX 3). This will be a supplement to my Paris rig, and I suspect I'll
>> gradually
>> phase out Paris (sob). Lack of non-native inserts on subgroups and master
>> bus, lack of latency compensation, no support for 96 k, etc, is getting a
>> bit frustrating. Anyone have any experience with the FF400? How does
>> audio quality stand up
>> to Paris? I'm not too concerned about the pres as I've got a DAV BG2 and
>> an SPL Gold Mike (Mk 1). Most critical is A/D and D/A quality; also
>> stability
>> (I'll be using it with a Dell XPS 2.0 ghz 2 gig ram laptop). Any thoughts
>> / experience on how the converters of the FF stack up against
>> Paris, Metric Halo 2882, or any of the Firewire interface competition -
>> e.g.
>> Focusrite Saffire 26 (which seems to have a killer featureset, I'm just
>> worried
>> about compromise on quality), Makie 400F, etc. Many thanks, Dan
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.comHI DJ,
Nope not yet.
Looks like its got some nice converters and such and the DSD function
look interesting.
Their excuse for using a generic firewire chip is lame but otherwise the
thing seems cool. I'd rather it had a AD/DA to use with other hardware
myself.
Chris
DJ wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Have you had a chance to try the new Prismsound FW interface? Surely you got
> a couple of those just laying around gathering dust, right?
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:46b0b621$1@linux...
>> HI Dan,
>>
>> The lowest latency Firewire device with the most most robust and supported
>> drivers is the Fireface 400 or 800 series by far.
>> Sound quality of the AD/DA is excellent for the price range it is in.
>> As for features RME and MOTU have the most overall functional features.
>> The closest unit from MOTU that I think compares to the Fireface would be
>> the 896HD.
>>
>> RME and MOTU are the only ones able to get stable lower latencies on the
>> majority of the machines. mainly because they are both proprietary
>> firewire protocols unlike the rest who all use a couple generic chip and
>> driver protocols and just slap their logo on it.
>>
>> In general I think RME and Lynx have the best tech support and driver
>> development around.
>>
>> As for overall sound quality on the lower end ones.
>> I think the these are the best of the bunch.
>> TC Konnekt 24d (IMHO best sounding of the cheaper ones)
>> Mackie Onyx 400f
>> Tascam FW1804
>> M-Audio FW410 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
>> M-Audio FW1814 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
>>
>> They all some combination of hardware compatibility, driver issues,
>> programs support issues but of course so does Paris.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> dan b wrote:
>>> Hi, I'm pretty much decided that I'm after an RME Fireface 400 (with
>>> Cubase 4
>>> or SX 3). This will be a supplement to my Paris rig, and I suspect I'll
>>> gradually
>>> phase out Paris (sob). Lack of non-native inserts on subgroups and master
>>> bus, lack of latency compensation, no support for 96 k, etc, is getting a
>>> bit frustrating. Anyone have any experience with the FF400? How does
>>> audio quality stand up
>>> to Paris? I'm not too concerned about the pres as I've got a DAV BG2 and
>>> an SPL Gold Mike (Mk 1). Most critical is A/D and D/A quality; also
>>> stability
>>> (I'll be using it with a Dell XPS 2.0 ghz 2 gig ram laptop). Any thoughts
>>> / experience on how the converters of the FF stack up against
>>> Paris, Metric Halo 2882, or any of the Firewire interface competition -
>>> e.g.
>>> Focusrite Saffire 26 (which seems to have a killer featureset, I'm just
>>> worried
>>> about compromise on quality), Makie 400F, etc. Many thanks, Dan
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:46b20c41$1@linux...
> HI DJ,
>
>
> Nope not yet.
> Looks like its got some nice converters and such and the DSD function look
> interesting.
> Their excuse for using a generic firewire chip is lame but otherwise the
> thing seems cool. I'd rather it had a AD/DA to use with other hardware
> myself.
>
> Chris
>
Well..the A/D/A unit only costs around $11k.
;o)Hi guys,
It's been a while since I've stopped by, things have been busy.
I think I have finally licked a nagging problem with my DX plug-ins being
marginally functional since upgrading my computer 2 years ago. Every time a
track started with a plug-in loaded it produced a nasty DC spike, and 2
plug-ins on one track would cause distortion. To add to the problem the
Waves VST plug-ins would never allow Paris to boot.
Thinking I'm the only one that's ever had this problem, I've been using
inconvenient workarounds, and starting to think this may be the end of the
road for me and Paris. I was talking with DJ about 6 months ago and he
suggested some kind of wrapper and said he would email it to me when he got
the chance. I've been checking my email everyday and starting to think he
may have forgotten.
Anyway, today a client left me waiting for yet to be delivered files, and I
needed to do something productive, so I started looking online for DX-VST
wrappers and came across a Steinberg blog with a fix for using DX plug-ins
with Cubase 4, which has abandoned DX. They recommended a free device from
VB audio called the FFX-4.
After a quick and painless installation of the FFX-4, I then disabled my DX
plug-ins in Paris, and moved the FFX-4 .dll file to the Paris VST folder.
So far this thing works great, not only has it solved all the plug-in audio
problems, but it allows me to keep all the plug-in windows open, which I
don't remember being able to do before. Next I'm going to do some latency
testing.
Hey DJ, if you are reading this, you can check the "send Richard the VST
wrapper" item off your to-do list, I don't need it anymore, but thanks for
pointing me in the right direction.
Richard ZeierHi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple or so
months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and the
start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the splash
screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time, the
Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics show,
just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has had
no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.Wilson,
Temporarily rename your default project and startup without one. Might
be something in it has been "pooched".
Jeff
Zorn wrote:
> Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple or so
> months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
> when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and the
> start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the splash
> screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time, the
> Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics show,
> just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
> finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has had
> no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
> fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.Hi,
I suspect you have installed many plugins so Paris needs time to read all
them...
See if when Paris hangs if it says DX plugins/vst whatesoever...
Dimitrios
"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>
>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple or
so
>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
the
>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the splash
>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
the
>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
show,
>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
had
>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.That's a nice fix. I remember having to insert sections of silence at the
beginning of all my tracks that had DX plugs in order to eliminate the pops.
Thanks for the post.
David LYep, same with me - except in my case it wsn't all DX plugs it
was just a couple of the Waves ones.
Insert silence & automate mutes so that the "pop" would occur
before the actual music part came in & would be where the muted
part was.
Neil
"David L" <david@revealaudio.com> wrote:
>That's a nice fix. I remember having to insert sections of silence at the
>beginning of all my tracks that had DX plugs in order to eliminate the pops.
>Thanks for the post.
>
>David LNot really the same problem, but I have noticed on my XP system, that if
I start the comp up anb go do something else for 10 minutes or so then try
to open Paris, Paris starts its thing then crashes at the end. and then I
have to restart the comp
but if I start my comp and start Paris almost right away, no problems.
Strange.
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I suspect you have installed many plugins so Paris needs time to read all
>them...
>See if when Paris hangs if it says DX plugins/vst whatesoever...
>Dimitrios
>
>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple or
>so
>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
>the
>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
splash
>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
>the
>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
>show,
>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
>had
>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build them. It
came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back together!
Thanks!
MichaelHe probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was one less
real one in the world.
"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
news:46b33d2b@linux...
>
> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build them. It
> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
> together!
> Thanks!
> Michael
>Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think the
transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they haven't
released anything like it.
My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew something
was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was one
less
>real one in the world.
>
>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>
>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build them.
It
>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>> together!
>> Thanks!
>> Michael
>>
>
>Kevin Nimmo, The Invisible Man Studio Services in Nashville.
615-331-4570
"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think the
> transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they haven't
> released anything like it.
> My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew
> something
> was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
>
> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was one
> less
>>real one in the world.
>>
>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build them.
> It
>>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>>> together!
>>> Thanks!
>>> Michael
>>>
>>
>>
>I run Paris on a Mac, so this may not be helpful, but I found that Paris was
taking forever - I mean FOREVER! like 6 to 7 minutes! - to load the Waves
plugins. Then one day I optimized my boot drive and Paris now boots in about
a minute.
Gantt
"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>
>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple or
so
>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
the
>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the splash
>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
the
>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
show,
>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
had
>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.I was using tracks that were recorded in Paris, I don't have an interface
for Nuendo yet. I am using my stereo motu 2496 sound card for playback. I
am running Nuendo 3.2 in win xp on a pretty fast machine. I believe I was
using the Izotope mastering plugin on the guitars.
On another note, I ran the stems dry and bounced them down both in Paris
and Nuendo just to see what the sound difference was. It was huge, Nuendo
had much less definition in the center channel, which made it sound wider,
but not necessarily in a good way. The Paris mix was punchier and sounded
more dense. I played it for two of my students and they both liked the Paris
mix much better was well.
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Mike,
>You make no mention of what audio interface or OS, plug ins or version
>of Nuendo you are using.
>Any or all of these can effect how good or bad PDc will function.
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>
>mikep wrote:
>> I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future
tracking/mixing
>> app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency compensation,
>> or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded
in
>> Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what little
>> processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a
whole
>> when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any processing.
>> I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more "musical".
>> After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass
were
>> a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
>> I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the latency
>> compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
>>
>> Anyone else have this issue?
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762"mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>On another note, I ran the stems dry and bounced them down both in Paris
>and Nuendo just to see what the sound difference was. It was huge, Nuendo
>had much less definition in the center channel, which made it sound wider,
>but not necessarily in a good way. The Paris mix was punchier and sounded
>more dense. I played it for two of my students and they both liked the Paris
>mix much better was well.
I think the pan law in Paris is -3, but in Nuendo it defaults
to -6 - so unless you changed that setting in Nuedno, there's a
big difference right there.
NeilThanks Neil,
I didn't change it, good to know.
Mike
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"mikep" <mikep@hometownrecords.com> wrote:
>>On another note, I ran the stems dry and bounced them down both in Paris
>>and Nuendo just to see what the sound difference was. It was huge, Nuendo
>>had much less definition in the center channel, which made it sound wider,
>>but not necessarily in a good way. The Paris mix was punchier and sounded
>>more dense. I played it for two of my students and they both liked the
Paris
>>mix much better was well.
>
>I think the pan law in Paris is -3, but in Nuendo it defaults
>to -6 - so unless you changed that setting in Nuedno, there's a
>big difference right there.
>
>NeilHi all
The monitor volume control knob on my C 16 got hit somehow and now works
sporatically,sometimes just cutting out on it's own. Is this an easy fix.
Would I be better off to just get another C 16. Any suggestions. Thnks JimHi Jim,
I've repaired a C-16 and it's not a job for the faint-hearted. Taking it
apart is not bad, changing the controller is probably routine, but
reassembly is an absolute pain, but it can be done.
Richard
"Jim Drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote in message
news:46b393a6$1@linux...
>
> Hi all
> The monitor volume control knob on my C 16 got hit somehow and now works
> sporatically,sometimes just cutting out on it's own. Is this an easy fix.
> Would I be better off to just get another C 16. Any suggestions. Thnks Jim"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote:
>
>Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
The guy who knows the most about this stuff-Oliver at Tab-
Funkenwork. http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/CS16RepairEnc.htm l
AA
"Jim Drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote in message
news:46b393a6$1@linux...
>
> Hi all
> The monitor volume control knob on my C 16 got hit somehow and now works
> sporatically,sometimes just cutting out on it's own. Is this an easy fix.
> Would I be better off to just get another C 16. Any suggestions. Thnks JimNo, as said it is past the splash screen, so not in the loading phase. Please
note also that I disabled all plugins and it still does that, so I think
that would rule out that it's the plugins.
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I suspect you have installed many plugins so Paris needs time to read all
>them...
>See if when Paris hangs if it says DX plugins/vst whatesoever...
>Dimitrios
>
>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple or
>so
>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
>the
>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
splash
>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
>the
>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
>show,
>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
>had
>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>It's slow even if I open a regular project that predated the problem, in which
case I would think the default project wouldn't be touched? Anyway, I did
try it, I appreciate the idea, but it didn't fix it.
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Wilson,
>
>
>Temporarily rename your default project and startup without one. Might
>be something in it has been "pooched".
>
>Jeff
>
>
> Zorn wrote:
>> Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple
or so
>> months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>> when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
the
>> start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
splash
>> screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
the
>> Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
show,
>> just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
>> finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
had
>> no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
>> fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.When you say "optimize", do you know if that's similar to defragmenting on
Windows? Anyway, that's definitely a good idea (to defrag, at least), so
I'm trying that as I type this, will post results.
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I run Paris on a Mac, so this may not be helpful, but I found that Paris
was
>taking forever - I mean FOREVER! like 6 to 7 minutes! - to load the Waves
>plugins. Then one day I optimized my boot drive and Paris now boots in
about
>a minute.
>
>Gantt
>
>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple or
>so
>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
>the
>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
splash
>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
>the
>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
>show,
>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
>had
>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>Makes a nice vocal mic. I was surprised.
;o)Well.........crap........
Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar dog
and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
his remaining years.
;o(Ouch - sorry to hear that DJ. Our first Newf blew his first out, got
repaired, then a year or so later blew out the second the week we arrived in
Colorado. Watch for bloat, as you probably know, since he'll be laying
around/hobbling when he might normally be up and keeping dinner moving.
Knees, hips, etc, are such a tough risk for the big dogs, but they (the
dogs) are worth it.
Dedric
On 8/3/07 8:55 PM, in article 46b3ecdd@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _
dot _ net> wrote:
> Well.........crap........
>
> Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
> meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
> like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
> in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar dog
> and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
> That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
> this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
> his remaining years.
>
> ;o(
>
>Sorry to hear it, Deej!
At least he has a caring family looking out for him.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> Well.........crap........
>
> Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
> meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
> like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
> in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar dog
> and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
> That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
> this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
> his remaining years.
>
> ;o(
>
>Really? Detailed sonic description using colors of the rainbow
& terms most commonly associated with foodstuffs will now be
required.
:)
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Makes a nice vocal mic. I was surprised.
>;o)
>
>HI Mike, Yes as Neils says it could be a pan law thing. Also be real
careful with Izotope Ozone.. Besides being one of those plug-ins with a
huge buffer I've had do weird stuff to mixes also. It is very easy to
accidentally leave on some of the imaging portions of the plug in.
Chris
mikep wrote:
> I was using tracks that were recorded in Paris, I don't have an interface
> for Nuendo yet. I am using my stereo motu 2496 sound card for playback. I
> am running Nuendo 3.2 in win xp on a pretty fast machine. I believe I was
> using the Izotope mastering plugin on the guitars.
>
> On another note, I ran the stems dry and bounced them down both in Paris
> and Nuendo just to see what the sound difference was. It was huge, Nuendo
> had much less definition in the center channel, which made it sound wider,
> but not necessarily in a good way. The Paris mix was punchier and sounded
> more dense. I played it for two of my students and they both liked the Paris
> mix much better was well.
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> HI Mike,
>> You make no mention of what audio interface or OS, plug ins or version
>> of Nuendo you are using.
>> Any or all of these can effect how good or bad PDc will function.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> mikep wrote:
>>
>>> I have been trying to learn my way around Nuendo as a possible future
>>>
> tracking/mixing
>
>>> app. One of the biggest advantages to me was its auto latency compensation,
>>> or so I thought. I was fooling around with stems of a song I recorded
>>>
> in
>
>>> Paris and I used a few plugins on some of the stems. I finished what little
>>> processing I was adding and started really listening to the song as a
>>>
> whole
>
>>> when I realized it didn't have the same "feel" as it did without any processing.
>>> I listened to the 2 track version and it definately sounded more "musical".
>>> After much muting and bypassing, I realized that the guitars and bass
>>>
> were
>
>>> a little late and it was ruining the rhythm of the song.
>>> I agree that the tracks would have been way out of sync without the latency
>>> compensation, but it didn't correct properly. How can I trust it now?
>>>
>>> Anyone else have this issue?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Yes - Optimize and Defrag are the same, I think. Most folks say DON'T defrag
audio drives but DO defrag system drives every now and then.
gantt
"Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>
>When you say "optimize", do you know if that's similar to defragmenting
on
>Windows? Anyway, that's definitely a good idea (to defrag, at least), so
>I'm trying that as I type this, will post results.
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I run Paris on a Mac, so this may not be helpful, but I found that Paris
>was
>>taking forever - I mean FOREVER! like 6 to 7 minutes! - to load the Waves
>>plugins. Then one day I optimized my boot drive and Paris now boots in
>about
>>a minute.
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple
or
>>so
>>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
>>the
>>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
>splash
>>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
>>the
>>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
>>show,
>>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
>>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
>>had
>>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
>>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>>
>It actually has a sweet top end. That's pretty unusual for a ribbon. It's
really amazing how the proximity effect can be used with this one too. Just
make sure you're using a pop filter. It also helps to have a hefty preamp.
I'm using a Safesound P1 which is a bit of a moose, being capable of over
70dB of output.
"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b40151$1@linux...
>
> Really? Detailed sonic description using colors of the rainbow
> & terms most commonly associated with foodstuffs will now be
> required.
>
> :)
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Makes a nice vocal mic. I was surprised.
>>;o)
>>
>>
>The best guy is here in Australia.
Gunter Wagner
He worked at Studer then Nuemann. He still works for Nuemann a few months
of the year.He has built his own U48 copy.He services my tube Nuemann U48,U67
and AKG tube C60.
He serviced my V72 and does the DI mod.
email:info@german-tubemics.com
www.german-tubemics.com
Tell him I sent you
Herm
>Kevin Nimmo, The Invisible Man Studio Services in Nashville.
>615-331-4570
>
>
>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>news:46b351f0$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think
the
>> transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they haven't
>> released anything like it.
>> My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew
>> something
>> was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
>>
>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was one
>> less
>>>real one in the world.
>>>
>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>>>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>>>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build them.
>> It
>>>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>>>> together!
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>sorry to hear the sad news about your family member deej.
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:55:43 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>Well.........crap........
>
>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar dog
>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
>his remaining years.
>
>;o(
>If you wanna forget all these problems try these two things one at a time.
First of all COPY your entire Paris emu folder in c:\ root with a simple
name like Paris.
Start your Paris exe with a shortcut from the new directory.
You don't have to delete the old one.
Just make sure you are opening the Paris from within the c: root directory.
Secondly DISABLE Directx !!
What a relief, no crash for months.
For DX support just put your FFX4 free chainer wrapper in your vst direcory
and thats it.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Not really the same problem, but I have noticed on my XP system, that if
>I start the comp up anb go do something else for 10 minutes or so then try
>to open Paris, Paris starts its thing then crashes at the end. and then
I
>have to restart the comp
>but if I start my comp and start Paris almost right away, no problems.
>
>Strange.
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>I suspect you have installed many plugins so Paris needs time to read all
>>them...
>>See if when Paris hangs if it says DX plugins/vst whatesoever...
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple
or
>>so
>>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
>>the
>>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
>splash
>>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
>>the
>>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
>>show,
>>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes. Then
>>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
>>had
>>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works just
>>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>>
>that's very sad. regarding feeding, if you can feed him all day instead of
just 1 or 2 times that would help him two. Maybe 4 or 5 times a day of the
same amount. Best regards to your family.Hey all... I am so confused and not sure what else I can do... For many
years I used my Paris without the C16. I like using the mouse. So the C16
sat in the closet for many years. Now I really need to use it. I plugged
in a CAT5 cable on the EDS card and out to the C16. When I power up the
computer I see the C16 flash, like it is getting power. Then I start up my
Paris and nothing happens on the C16. I have a check mark in the EDS - A
card in the settings, but I am not sure what else to do to get it operating.
Can someone please help because I am in desperate need of this now... TIA
~ EdIt is a regular CAT5 cable and not a yellow crossover cable....right??? If
it's a yellow crossover cable, you've probably fried it, and your EDS card.
Deej
"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote in message news:46b49047@linux...
> Hey all... I am so confused and not sure what else I can do... For many
> years I used my Paris without the C16. I like using the mouse. So the
> C16 sat in the closet for many years. Now I really need to use it. I
> plugged in a CAT5 cable on the EDS card and out to the C16. When I power
> up the computer I see the C16 flash, like it is getting power. Then I
> start up my Paris and nothing happens on the C16. I have a check mark in
> the EDS - A card in the settings, but I am not sure what else to do to get
> it operating. Can someone please help because I am in desperate need of
> this now... TIA ~ Ed
>
>Nope... it is a regular CAT5. The EDS works fine and like I said.. when I
power on my computer I see the C16 flash like it is getting power... but
when I start up Paris, it doesn't work... Like something is turned off...
but I am not sure what or where... Any other suggestions?
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46b4927c@linux...
> It is a regular CAT5 cable and not a yellow crossover cable....right??? If
> it's a yellow crossover cable, you've probably fried it, and your EDS
> card.
>
> Deej
>
> "Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote in message news:46b49047@linux...
>> Hey all... I am so confused and not sure what else I can do... For many
>> years I used my Paris without the C16. I like using the mouse. So the
>> C16 sat in the closet for many years. Now I really need to use it. I
>> plugged in a CAT5 cable on the EDS card and out to the C16. When I power
>> up the computer I see the C16 flash, like it is getting power. Then I
>> start up my Paris and nothing happens on the C16. I have a check mark in
>> the EDS - A card in the settings, but I am not sure what else to do to
>> get it operating. Can someone please help because I am in desperate need
>> of this now... TIA ~ Ed
>>
>>
>
>Check to see if the cable is properly seated in the input of the C-16. If
it's not properly locking in, this can happen.
"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote in message news:46b493e1$1@linux...
> Nope... it is a regular CAT5. The EDS works fine and like I said.. when I
> power on my computer I see the C16 flash like it is getting power... but
> when I start up Paris, it doesn't work... Like something is turned off...
> but I am not sure what or where... Any other suggestions?
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:46b4927c@linux...
>> It is a regular CAT5 cable and not a yellow crossover cable....right???
>> If it's a yellow crossover cable, you've probably fried it, and your EDS
>> card.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote in message news:46b49047@linux...
>>> Hey all... I am so confused and not sure what else I can do... For many
>>> years I used my Paris without the C16. I like using the mouse. So the
>>> C16 sat in the closet for many years. Now I really need to use it. I
>>> plugged in a CAT5 cable on the EDS card and out to the C16. When I
>>> power up the computer I see the C16 flash, like it is getting power.
>>> Then I start up my Paris and nothing happens on the C16. I have a check
>>> mark in the EDS - A card in the settings, but I am not sure what else to
>>> do to get it operating. Can someone please help because I am in
>>> desperate need of this now... TIA ~ Ed
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>You think you could talk himn into making me a U47? I hear he does a great
job cloning them.
;o)
"Herm" <hkovac@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:46b447f5$1@linux...
>
> The best guy is here in Australia.
> Gunter Wagner
> He worked at Studer then Nuemann. He still works for Nuemann a few months
> of the year.He has built his own U48 copy.He services my tube Nuemann
> U48,U67
> and AKG tube C60.
> He serviced my V72 and does the DI mod.
> email:info@german-tubemics.com
> www.german-tubemics.com
> Tell him I sent you
> Herm
>
>>Kevin Nimmo, The Invisible Man Studio Services in Nashville.
>>615-331-4570
>>
>>
>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>news:46b351f0$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think
> the
>>> transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they
>>> haven't
>>> released anything like it.
>>> My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew
>>> something
>>> was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
>>>
>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was one
>>> less
>>>>real one in the world.
>>>>
>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>>>>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>>>>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build
>>>>> them.
>>> It
>>>>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>>>>> together!
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>I been eyeballing that AEA for awhile, but lately I've been
thinking about the B.L.U.E. Woodpecker (stupid name,
but WTH); an active ribbon mic that can be had for a grand
street price. I have a few preamps that go to +60 db, and the
Portico & Chandler go to +66 & +75, respectively, but why
push it if you can go with something active that doesn't push
your preamps to the limit, right? Plus I tend to be a big fan
of B.L.U.E., having found they generally fail to suck & have
GREAT factory support, IME. (speaking of B.L.U.E., anyone try
their OmniMouse yet? It's supposed to have a capsule like the
M50/M150 - that odd spherical design - anyone ever use these on
voice?).
My only question on a ribbon mic for my gear lineup would be:
Would I really find any use for it? Vocally, I've got a pretty
wide range of really good stuff, and guitar-wise everybody
(including myself) has been really happy with the guitar sounds
I've been getting with my particular combination of mics & pres.
Overheads - it's a possibility, but then of course I'd have to
get two of 'em. I just don't know if a ribon or two would
really contribute much to the type of stuff I find myself
doing - which apart from my own music, is pretty much metal
bands, and the occasional singer-songwiter type.
I'm actually pondering the possibility that a nice baby grand
might be a good addition at this stage. lol
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>It actually has a sweet top end. That's pretty unusual for a ribbon. It's
>really amazing how the proximity effect can be used with this one too. Just
>make sure you're using a pop filter. It also helps to have a hefty preamp.
>I'm using a Safesound P1 which is a bit of a moose, being capable of over
>70dB of output.
>
>
>"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b40151$1@linux...
>>
>> Really? Detailed sonic description using colors of the rainbow
>> & terms most commonly associated with foodstuffs will now be
>> required.
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>Makes a nice vocal mic. I was surprised.
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Makes a nice vocal mic. I was surprised.
>;o)
There is lengthy interview with Pete Townsend in the current EQ. He is also
using this mic a lot. Great read, btw.Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Mike, Yes as Neils says it could be a pan law thing. Also be real
>careful with Izotope Ozone.. Besides being one of those plug-ins with a
>huge buffer I've had do weird stuff to mixes also. It is very easy to
>accidentally leave on some of the imaging portions of the plug in.
OH YEAH, Good point... I didn't even think of that! Yes, Mike,
if you picked one of the Ozone presets as a stating point,
there's a good chance you have the Multiband Stereo Imaging
section engaged. you have to really be careful of that,
especially on the low end - it can drop the center out of your
soundstage pretty easily (or boost the center & drop the sides
out, if you go into the negative ranges on the imaging
settings). If you have that feature "on", then check to see
that you're not getting too crazy with the stereo spread on any
band - and I would recommend if you're using it in multi-band
mode, don't spread out anything below the 250hz/300hz range
at ALL, and then add your spread percentages gradually above
that - like perhaps +2 on the next band up, +4 or +5 on the
next... know what I mean? If you're using it in single-band
mode, I'd say don't go above +3 under any circumstances - your
bottom end will get flabby. (Then we'll have to send you to the
gym. lol)
All in all, though, it's probably a useless comparison to
listen to a Paris mix & a Nuendo or SX mix & try to make one
sound like the other... they're different beasts... it'd be
like having the ability to toggle between a mix on a Neve
console & the same mix on an SSL console & saying "Wow, these
two don't sound alike." - well, no kidding. Point is, they're
both good, just "different".
NeilSorry to hear that, Deej - hope he's able to adapt OK.
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Well.........crap........
>
>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
dog
>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
>his remaining years.
>
>;o(
>
>Just as a longshot, on the rig I have at the office, the second EDS card I
have in the computer is the "A" card. That's the one I have the C16 pluged
into.
CLIt's strange... Perhaps the C16 went kapooie... But it is also strange
that I get a flash of lights when I power up the computer... but nothing
after that..
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46b4a3e9$1@linux...
> Check to see if the cable is properly seated in the input of the C-16. If
> it's not properly locking in, this can happen.
>
>
> "Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote in message news:46b493e1$1@linux...
>> Nope... it is a regular CAT5. The EDS works fine and like I said.. when
>> I power on my computer I see the C16 flash like it is getting power...
>> but when I start up Paris, it doesn't work... Like something is turned
>> off... but I am not sure what or where... Any other suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
>> news:46b4927c@linux...
>>> It is a regular CAT5 cable and not a yellow crossover cable....right???
>>> If it's a yellow crossover cable, you've probably fried it, and your EDS
>>> card.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>> "Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote in message news:46b49047@linux...
>>>> Hey all... I am so confused and not sure what else I can do... For
>>>> many years I used my Paris without the C16. I like using the mouse.
>>>> So the C16 sat in the closet for many years. Now I really need to use
>>>> it. I plugged in a CAT5 cable on the EDS card and out to the C16.
>>>> When I power up the computer I see the C16 flash, like it is getting
>>>> power. Then I start up my Paris and nothing happens on the C16. I have
>>>> a check mark in the EDS - A card in the settings, but I am not sure
>>>> what else to do to get it operating. Can someone please help because I
>>>> am in desperate need of this now... TIA ~ Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Poor doggie. :-( You should get him his own satellite TV and show him how
to get to Animal Planet.
S
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46b3ecdd@linux...
> Well.........crap........
>
> Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
> meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
> like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
> in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
> dog and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and
> play. That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to
> see this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
> during his remaining years.
>
> ;o(
>Heh! He loves to watch TV and will sti in front of it and actually watch
Animal Planet. the Dog whisperer is one of his faves.
;o)
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:46b4ebbc$1@linux...
> Poor doggie. :-( You should get him his own satellite TV and show him how
> to get to Animal Planet.
>
> S
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:46b3ecdd@linux...
>> Well.........crap........
>>
>> Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>> meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>> like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both
>> knees in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a
>> stellar dog and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to
>> run and play. That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my
>> heart to see this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent
>> quality of life during his remaining years.
>>
>> ;o(
>>
>
>So this guy gets pulled over for speeding & the cop goes up to
the car & says "OK pal, what's the hurry? According my radar
gun you were doing 70 in a 55 zone, you know." Guy says: "Sorry
officer, I'm an artist & I'm on my way to the opening of my new
exhibit at the museum & I'm running late" Cop doesn't believe
him & asks, kinda rudely: "Oh yeah? Exactly what kind of
artist are you?" Guy says: I'm a sculptor - I sculpt giant-size
replicas of body parts... ears, lips, hands... my new exhibit
features a 72-inch high marble rectum!" Cop says: "What???
That's not art, that's just crazy! What the hell is somebody
gonna do with a six-foot tall asshole?" Guy says: "I dunno...
put him out by the side of the road & give him a radar gun?"
:DYou could also look around for a used Soundelux E47 or E47C ;)
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>You think you could talk himn into making me a U47? I hear he does a great
>job cloning them.
>
>;o)
>
>"Herm" <hkovac@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:46b447f5$1@linux...
>>
>> The best guy is here in Australia.
>> Gunter Wagner
>> He worked at Studer then Nuemann. He still works for Nuemann a few months
>> of the year.He has built his own U48 copy.He services my tube Nuemann
>> U48,U67
>> and AKG tube C60.
>> He serviced my V72 and does the DI mod.
>> email:info@german-tubemics.com
>> www.german-tubemics.com
>> Tell him I sent you
>> Herm
>>
>>>Kevin Nimmo, The Invisible Man Studio Services in Nashville.
>>>615-331-4570
>>>
>>>
>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46b351f0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think
>> the
>>>> transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they
>>>> haven't
>>>> released anything like it.
>>>> My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew
>>>> something
>>>> was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
>>>>
>>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was
one
>>>> less
>>>>>real one in the world.
>>>>>
>>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>>>>>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>>>>>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build
>>>>>> them.
>>>> It
>>>>>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>>>>>> together!
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Just FYI I have tried these on my system for my problem, no change. I realize
you are addressing Cujo, just saying for the record. Appreciate the input/info.
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>If you wanna forget all these problems try these two things one at a time.
>First of all COPY your entire Paris emu folder in c:\ root with a simple
>name like Paris.
>Start your Paris exe with a shortcut from the new directory.
>You don't have to delete the old one.
>Just make sure you are opening the Paris from within the c: root directory.
>
>Secondly DISABLE Directx !!
>What a relief, no crash for months.
>For DX support just put your FFX4 free chainer wrapper in your vst direcory
>and thats it.
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Not really the same problem, but I have noticed on my XP system, that if
>>I start the comp up anb go do something else for 10 minutes or so then
try
>>to open Paris, Paris starts its thing then crashes at the end. and then
>I
>>have to restart the comp
>>but if I start my comp and start Paris almost right away, no problems.
>>
>>Strange.
>>
>>
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>I suspect you have installed many plugins so Paris needs time to read
all
>>>them...
>>>See if when Paris hangs if it says DX plugins/vst whatesoever...
>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple
>or
>>>so
>>>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>>>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
>>>the
>>>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
>>splash
>>>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
>>>the
>>>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
>>>show,
>>>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes.
Then
>>>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
>>>had
>>>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works
just
>>>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>>>
>>
>Thanks. It's running, just takes a long time of course. Will report back.
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Yes - Optimize and Defrag are the same, I think. Most folks say DON'T defrag
>audio drives but DO defrag system drives every now and then.
>
>gantt
>
>
>
>"Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>
>>When you say "optimize", do you know if that's similar to defragmenting
>on
>>Windows? Anyway, that's definitely a good idea (to defrag, at least),
so
>>I'm trying that as I type this, will post results.
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I run Paris on a Mac, so this may not be helpful, but I found that Paris
>>was
>>>taking forever - I mean FOREVER! like 6 to 7 minutes! - to load the Waves
>>>plugins. Then one day I optimized my boot drive and Paris now boots in
>>about
>>>a minute.
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
>>>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple
>or
>>>so
>>>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new project
>>>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen and
>>>the
>>>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
>>splash
>>>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
>>>the
>>>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
>>>show,
>>>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes.
Then
>>>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that has
>>>had
>>>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works
just
>>>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>>>
>>
>Hey DJ,
Wait for my microphones !
Although not exact clones sound is extremely close if not better.....
Regards,
Dimitrios
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>You think you could talk himn into making me a U47? I hear he does a great
>job cloning them.
>
>;o)
>
>"Herm" <hkovac@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:46b447f5$1@linux...
>>
>> The best guy is here in Australia.
>> Gunter Wagner
>> He worked at Studer then Nuemann. He still works for Nuemann a few months
>> of the year.He has built his own U48 copy.He services my tube Nuemann
>> U48,U67
>> and AKG tube C60.
>> He serviced my V72 and does the DI mod.
>> email:info@german-tubemics.com
>> www.german-tubemics.com
>> Tell him I sent you
>> Herm
>>
>>>Kevin Nimmo, The Invisible Man Studio Services in Nashville.
>>>615-331-4570
>>>
>>>
>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>news:46b351f0$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think
>> the
>>>> transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they
>>>> haven't
>>>> released anything like it.
>>>> My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew
>>>> something
>>>> was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
>>>>
>>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was
one
>>>> less
>>>>>real one in the world.
>>>>>
>>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>>>>>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>>>>>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build
>>>>>> them.
>>>> It
>>>>>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>>>>>> together!
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Huh???
(4 or 5 times a day of the same amount...)
How big do you want this dog to be?
Sorry to hear about Crashbucket, Deej
At least he'll be perfectly looked after.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46b46c77$1@linux...
>
> that's very sad. regarding feeding, if you can feed him all day instead
> of
> just 1 or 2 times that would help him two. Maybe 4 or 5 times a day of
> the
> same amount. Best regards to your family.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247Sorry, Typo
Crashbasket,
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:46b5ac67@linux...
> Huh???
>
> (4 or 5 times a day of the same amount...)
>
> How big do you want this dog to be?
>
>
> Sorry to hear about Crashbucket, Deej
> At least he'll be perfectly looked after.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46b46c77$1@linux...
>>
>> that's very sad. regarding feeding, if you can feed him all day instead
>> of
>> just 1 or 2 times that would help him two. Maybe 4 or 5 times a day of
>> the
>> same amount. Best regards to your family.
>
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247
>
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
0414 913 247That sucks Deej. I like almost every dog I meet a lot more than I like almost
every person I meet. Take care of Crash.
I can't have a dog where I life (I like big dogs that need lots of space
and my 'back yard' is a parking lot') but I have two cats who keep me company
and get mad when spend hours screwing around with synth sounds instead of
scratching their chins. They're both pretty young and healthy so far, but
I know that the actuarial tables mean at some point I'll be dealing with
their very old age while I'm just middle aged. Tough stuff.
BTW - You got the book/check from me, right?
TCB
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Well.........crap........
>
>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
dog
>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
>his remaining years.
>
>;o(
>
>I met a guy with a 5 year Rot who'd blown out both front ACls. The Green Bay
WI pet hospital fixed the pup. Guy said pup has almost full mobility. Great
outcome, but guy had to take a second mortgage.
g
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46b3ecdd@linux...
> Well.........crap........
>
> Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
> meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
> like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
> in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
dog
> and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
> That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
> this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
during
> his remaining years.
>
> ;o(
>
>I think he probably meant "the same amount, but split up over 4
or 5 times a day"
Neil
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Sorry, Typo
>
>Crashbasket,
>
>
>
>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
>news:46b5ac67@linux...
>> Huh???
>>
>> (4 or 5 times a day of the same amount...)
>>
>> How big do you want this dog to be?
>>
>>
>> Sorry to hear about Crashbucket, Deej
>> At least he'll be perfectly looked after.
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46b46c77$1@linux...
>>>
>>> that's very sad. regarding feeding, if you can feed him all day instead
>>> of
>>> just 1 or 2 times that would help him two. Maybe 4 or 5 times a day
of
>>> the
>>> same amount. Best regards to your family.
>>
>> --
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>> 0414 913 247
>>
>
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>0414 913 247
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46b5ee4f$1@linux...
>
> That sucks Deej. I like almost every dog I meet a lot more than I like
> almost
> every person I meet. Take care of Crash.
>
> I can't have a dog where I life (I like big dogs that need lots of space
> and my 'back yard' is a parking lot') but I have two cats who keep me
> company
> and get mad when spend hours screwing around with synth sounds instead of
> scratching their chins. They're both pretty young and healthy so far, but
> I know that the actuarial tables mean at some point I'll be dealing with
> their very old age while I'm just middle aged. Tough stuff.
>
> BTW - You got the book/check from me, right?
>
> TCB
>
Hi Thad,
We're taking Crash to the surgeon tomorrow or Tuesday. I've been looking at
orthopedic options for him. Nothing is cheap but WTF? I don't care. He's
going to get what he needs.
I did get your package. Thanks. I'm into the first 50 or so pages of the
read. It's a good one. I'll get with you on my thoughts once I finish up.
I've been falling out pretty early this week and not getting much reading
done. My workload has been mind boggling.
It's nice to read something other than some kind of tech manual for a
change. Even non-fiction stirs my creative juices to some degree. I remember
before I started getting into this studio business, I used to actually read
"books".......a lot. I also used to write songs. Haven't done much of either
for the last 10 years. Instead, I've become a jack of a few audio
applications and hardware processors, master of none.....but perhaps a
somewhat "competent" engineer.
;o)OK Dimitrios,
I'm going to be paying for puppy medical bills, not microphones, in the near
future anyway.
;o)
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:46b592c0$1@linux...
>
> Hey DJ,
> Wait for my microphones !
> Although not exact clones sound is extremely close if not better.....
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>You think you could talk himn into making me a U47? I hear he does a
>>great
>
>>job cloning them.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Herm" <hkovac@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:46b447f5$1@linux...
>>>
>>> The best guy is here in Australia.
>>> Gunter Wagner
>>> He worked at Studer then Nuemann. He still works for Nuemann a few
>>> months
>>> of the year.He has built his own U48 copy.He services my tube Nuemann
>
>>> U48,U67
>>> and AKG tube C60.
>>> He serviced my V72 and does the DI mod.
>>> email:info@german-tubemics.com
>>> www.german-tubemics.com
>>> Tell him I sent you
>>> Herm
>>>
>>>>Kevin Nimmo, The Invisible Man Studio Services in Nashville.
>>>>615-331-4570
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46b351f0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think
>>> the
>>>>> transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> released anything like it.
>>>>> My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew
>>>>> something
>>>>> was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
>>>>>
>>>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was
> one
>>>>> less
>>>>>>real one in the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>>>>>>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>>>>>>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build
>
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>> It
>>>>>>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>>>>>>> together!
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>The R84 does something special when used "for proximity effect". The top
doesn't turn to mush...instead, crowding the mic does something almost like
dialing in a bit of very high quality low/mid EQ. This can be worked very
effectively if a pop screen is used.
You "do not" want to put a "screamer" in front of this mic, but a vocalist
with a strident 6-10k range will likely fall in love with this mic.
Another ribbon that does a good job (high end detail/very smooth) is the SE
Electronics R-1, but it's a bit of a different beast from the R84.
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b4ae67$1@linux...
>
> I been eyeballing that AEA for awhile, but lately I've been
> thinking about the B.L.U.E. Woodpecker (stupid name,
> but WTH); an active ribbon mic that can be had for a grand
> street price. I have a few preamps that go to +60 db, and the
> Portico & Chandler go to +66 & +75, respectively, but why
> push it if you can go with something active that doesn't push
> your preamps to the limit, right? Plus I tend to be a big fan
> of B.L.U.E., having found they generally fail to suck & have
> GREAT factory support, IME. (speaking of B.L.U.E., anyone try
> their OmniMouse yet? It's supposed to have a capsule like the
> M50/M150 - that odd spherical design - anyone ever use these on
> voice?).
>
> My only question on a ribbon mic for my gear lineup would be:
> Would I really find any use for it? Vocally, I've got a pretty
> wide range of really good stuff, and guitar-wise everybody
> (including myself) has been really happy with the guitar sounds
> I've been getting with my particular combination of mics & pres.
> Overheads - it's a possibility, but then of course I'd have to
> get two of 'em. I just don't know if a ribon or two would
> really contribute much to the type of stuff I find myself
> doing - which apart from my own music, is pretty much metal
> bands, and the occasional singer-songwiter type.
>
> I'm actually pondering the possibility that a nice baby grand
> might be a good addition at this stage. lol
>
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>It actually has a sweet top end. That's pretty unusual for a ribbon. It's
>
>>really amazing how the proximity effect can be used with this one too.
>>Just
>
>>make sure you're using a pop filter. It also helps to have a hefty preamp.
>
>>I'm using a Safesound P1 which is a bit of a moose, being capable of over
>
>>70dB of output.
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b40151$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Really? Detailed sonic description using colors of the rainbow
>>> & terms most commonly associated with foodstuffs will now be
>>> required.
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>Makes a nice vocal mic. I was surprised.
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hey, my cats are the only 'children' I'll ever have so I'll do whatever I
can for them.
I hope you get into that book. For various reasons we are right now getting
an unusually clear look into the CIA--not other intelligence agencies, but
the only the CIA. This is partly generational, guys have been retiring and
writing books. Bit it's also been because of a feeling that the CIA is being
marginalized by the DOD, and a number of (I think) highly principled CIA
case officers have retired earlier than expected, out of protest, and want
to have their stories read. Anyone with their skill set can make a fortune
in the private sector, so the only incentive they had to keep their (lousy
paying civil servant) jobs was patriotism and since 9/11 a few have felt
genuinely betrayed and moved on. Again, you can take what you want away from
their stories, but I think if you read the books by Robert Baer, Michael
Sheuer, and Tyler Drumheller you can triangulate some very interesting things
about the current state of US intelligence gathering.
Anyway, I'll be interested to hear your reactions, and good luck with Crash.
TCB
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46b5ee4f$1@linux...
>>
>> That sucks Deej. I like almost every dog I meet a lot more than I like
>> almost
>> every person I meet. Take care of Crash.
>>
>> I can't have a dog where I life (I like big dogs that need lots of space
>> and my 'back yard' is a parking lot') but I have two cats who keep me
>> company
>> and get mad when spend hours screwing around with synth sounds instead
of
>> scratching their chins. They're both pretty young and healthy so far,
but
>> I know that the actuarial tables mean at some point I'll be dealing with
>> their very old age while I'm just middle aged. Tough stuff.
>>
>> BTW - You got the book/check from me, right?
>>
>> TCB
>>
>
>Hi Thad,
>
>We're taking Crash to the surgeon tomorrow or Tuesday. I've been looking
at
>orthopedic options for him. Nothing is cheap but WTF? I don't care. He's
>going to get what he needs.
>
>I did get your package. Thanks. I'm into the first 50 or so pages of the
>read. It's a good one. I'll get with you on my thoughts once I finish up.
>I've been falling out pretty early this week and not getting much reading
>done. My workload has been mind boggling.
>
>It's nice to read something other than some kind of tech manual for a
>change. Even non-fiction stirs my creative juices to some degree. I remember
>before I started getting into this studio business, I used to actually read
>"books".......a lot. I also used to write songs. Haven't done much of either
>for the last 10 years. Instead, I've become a jack of a few audio
>applications and hardware processors, master of none.....but perhaps a
>somewhat "competent" engineer.
>
>;o)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46b613ae$1@linux...
>
> Hey, my cats are the only 'children' I'll ever have so I'll do whatever I
> can for them.
>
> I hope you get into that book. For various reasons we are right now
> getting
> an unusually clear look into the CIA--not other intelligence agencies, but
> the only the CIA. This is partly generational, guys have been retiring and
> writing books. Bit it's also been because of a feeling that the CIA is
> being
> marginalized by the DOD, and a number of (I think) highly principled CIA
> case officers have retired earlier than expected, out of protest, and want
> to have their stories read. Anyone with their skill set can make a fortune
> in the private sector, so the only incentive they had to keep their (lousy
> paying civil servant) jobs was patriotism and since 9/11 a few have felt
> genuinely betrayed and moved on. Again, you can take what you want away
> from
> their stories, but I think if you read the books by Robert Baer, Michael
> Sheuer, and Tyler Drumheller you can triangulate some very interesting
> things
> about the current state of US intelligence gathering.
>
> Anyway, I'll be interested to hear your reactions, and good luck with
> Crash.
>
>
> TCB
>
My first impression (from the first couple of chapters) is that Drumheller
is upset about "the status quo" being shaken to it's core by an
administration that doesn't respect it. IMO, the status quo was not doing
much for us anyway so he comes off "to me" as sounding disgruntled by being
called to task for the ineffectiveness of the ongoing MO of the CIA. The
fact that he considers some of the countries the "alludes to" as allies,
when they clearly were not, seems sort of self serving and disingenuious.
Just a first impression though.
DeejIt was the first day of school and a new student named Pedro Martinez
,the son of a Mexican restaurateur, entered the fourth grade.
The teacher said, "Let's begin by reviewing some American history.
"Who said 'Give me Liberty , or give me Death? "
She saw a sea of blank faces, except for Pedro, who had his hand
up."Patrick Henry, 1775."
"Very good!" apprised the teacher. "Now, who said, "Government of the
people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the
earth?"
Again, no response except from Pedro: "Abraham Lincoln, 1863."
The teacher snapped at the class, "Class, you should be ashamed!
Pedro, who is new to our country, knows more about its history than
you do!"
She heard a loud whisper: "Screw the Mexicans!" "Who said that?" she
demanded.
Pedro put his hand up. "Jim Bowie, 1836."
At that point, a student in the back said, "I'm gonna puke."
The teacher glared and asked, "All right! Now, who said that?"
Again, Pedro answered, "George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister,
1991."
Now furious, another student yelled, "Oh yeah? Suck this!"
Pedro jumped out of his chair waving his hand and shouting to the
teacher, "Bill Clinton to Monica Lewinsky, 1997!"
Now, with almost a mob hysteria, another student yelled, "You little
shit. If you say anything else, I'll kill you!"
Pedro frantically yelled at the top of his voice, "Gary Condit to
Chandra Levy, 2001."
The teacher fainted, and as the class gathered around her on the
floor, someone said, "Oh shit, we're in BIG trouble now!"
Pedro whispered, "Saddam Hussein, 2003."
Finally someone throws a eraser at Pedro,someone shouted "Duck"!
Teacher, just waking, asked "Who said that?
Pedro: Dick Cheney 2006!I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
#1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
#2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
base" DAW. Thoughts?
#3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
#4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
#5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
laptops! LOL! :)
Thx upfront.
NeilGood luck with Crashbasket.
Photos of you and the dogs always put a smile on my face.
Fingers crossed for a good outcome.
Gene
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Well.........crap........
>
>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
dog
>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
>his remaining years.
>
>;o(
>
>Heh!.....well.......here's one to smile about. No need to include a picture
of me. We're all starting to look alike around here.
;o)
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:46b64fbc$1@linux...
>
> Good luck with Crashbasket.
> Photos of you and the dogs always put a smile on my face.
> Fingers crossed for a good outcome.
>
> Gene
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Well.........crap........
>>
>>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>
>>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>
>>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
> dog
>>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>
>>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>
>>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
>>during
>
>>his remaining years.
>>
>>;o(
>>
>>
>
Not a big believer in Newtonian Physics I see. LOL.
Gene
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Heh!.....well.......here's one to smile about. No need to include a picture
>of me. We're all starting to look alike around here.
>
>;o)
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>news:46b64fbc$1@linux...
>>
>> Good luck with Crashbasket.
>> Photos of you and the dogs always put a smile on my face.
>> Fingers crossed for a good outcome.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>Well.........crap........
>>>
>>>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>>>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>>
>>>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>>
>>>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
>> dog
>>>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>>
>>>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>>
>>>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
>>>during
>>
>>>his remaining years.
>>>
>>>;o(
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>Hey Dimitrios - when are they coming out, what models are you
going to be offering, where are you getting your capsules from,
and how much are the mics going to cost?
And finally, the most important question - are they going to be
called Dimifunken & have a nifty "D" in a diamond-shaped logo
on the front? :)
Neil
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hey DJ,
>Wait for my microphones !
>Although not exact clones sound is extremely close if not better.....
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>You think you could talk himn into making me a U47? I hear he does a great
>
>>job cloning them.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Herm" <hkovac@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:46b447f5$1@linux...
>>>
>>> The best guy is here in Australia.
>>> Gunter Wagner
>>> He worked at Studer then Nuemann. He still works for Nuemann a few months
>>> of the year.He has built his own U48 copy.He services my tube Nuemann
>
>>> U48,U67
>>> and AKG tube C60.
>>> He serviced my V72 and does the DI mod.
>>> email:info@german-tubemics.com
>>> www.german-tubemics.com
>>> Tell him I sent you
>>> Herm
>>>
>>>>Kevin Nimmo, The Invisible Man Studio Services in Nashville.
>>>>615-331-4570
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:46b351f0$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think
>>> the
>>>>> transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> released anything like it.
>>>>> My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew
>>>>> something
>>>>> was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
>>>>>
>>>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was
>one
>>>>> less
>>>>>>real one in the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>>>>>>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>>>>>>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build
>
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>> It
>>>>>>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>>>>>>> together!
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Neil,
I've got an RME cardbus here I'll loan you. I don't have the cable though.
I'm not using it at the moment so if you want it, just let me know. Thad
recently posted about a a cheapo ACER laptop that worked nicely with (I
think) the RME cardbus and LIVE once the OS was gutted and a minimal
reinstall was done to lose all the proprietary crap.
Deej
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b647f8$1@linux...
>
> I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
> here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
> I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
> the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
> best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
> submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
> possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
> trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
> appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
> really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
> porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
> you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
> know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
>
> #1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
> interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
> which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
> Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
> Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
> channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
> lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
> live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
> no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
> for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
> off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
> that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
>
> #2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
> with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
> RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
> Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
> 40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
> 20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
> would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
> base" DAW. Thoughts?
>
> #3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
> RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
> but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
>
> #4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> #5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
> laptops! LOL! :)
>
> Thx upfront.
>
> NeilHI Neil,
No current or future laptops will have card bus. Any companies that
still sell them are selling EOL hardware. The ACER model is the only I
know of recently that had a reliable card bus controller. RME will have
the express card for the Multiface/Digiface in the fall. There are no
duel express slots on a laptop. just a single. Most people are using the
express to add a 2 port SATA II controller. So you can add 2 500 gig
70meg/sec drives to your laptop and record at high sample rates all you
want.
Fire fire is still the best solution for the laptop at this point.
A Fireface 800 combined with a Presonus Digimax FS will give you 16
channels of 88.2k At 44.1/48k you can have an additional Digimax FS for
24 channels.
Oh and the laptop we most commonly do for this is costs $1700.00 and is
based on the current Intel chipset with a Core2 Duo T7300 CPU, 2 gigs
DDR667 ram, 100 7200 sata OS drive, 8xDVDRW, 15" 1280x800 LCD, Nvidia
8400 256 meg video, TI fire wire chipset, XP Pro, 3 year warranty, life
time tech support.
LOL
Chris
Neil wrote:
> I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
> here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
> I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
> the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
> best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
> submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
> possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
> trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
> appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
> really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
> porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
> you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
> know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
>
> #1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
> interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
> which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
> Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
> Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
> channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
> lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
> live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
> no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
> for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
> off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
> that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
>
> #2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
> with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
> RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
> Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
> 40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
> 20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
> would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
> base" DAW. Thoughts?
>
> #3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
> RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
> but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
>
> #4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> #5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
> laptops! LOL! :)
>
> Thx upfront.
>
> Neil
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Any laptop that can handle 20 plus tracks at high sample rates will be an
expensive setup. I know because I have one.
I would look for a used Alesis HD24XR. Should be around $1600 used. The HD24XR
can dependably handle 24 tracks at 96 and has good sounding converters. Sell
it when you are done for what you paid for it.
If you move down to 24/44.1 your inexpensive laptop idea will probably work.
Gene
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
>here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
>I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
>the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
>best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
>submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
>possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
>trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
>appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
>really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
>porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
>you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
>know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
>
>#1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
>interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
>which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
>Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
>Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
>channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
>lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
>live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
>no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
>for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
>off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
>that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
>
>#2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
>with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
>RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
>Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
>40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
>20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
>would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
>base" DAW. Thoughts?
>
>#3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
>RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
>but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
>
>#4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>#5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
>laptops! LOL! :)
>
>Thx upfront.
>
>NeilThat's what the Mytek unit is for... ;)
Graham
Chris Ludwig wrote:
> I'd rather it had a AD/DA to use with other hardware
> myself.HD24XRs can be purchased new for around $1600 at a few dealers. They
only do 12 channels at 96k, though...
Graham
Gene Lennon wrote:
> Any laptop that can handle 20 plus tracks at high sample rates will be an
> expensive setup. I know because I have one.
>
> I would look for a used Alesis HD24XR. Should be around $1600 used. The HD24XR
> can dependably handle 24 tracks at 96 and has good sounding converters. Sell
> it when you are done for what you paid for it.
>
> If you move down to 24/44.1 your inexpensive laptop idea will probably work.
>
>
> GeneLooks like Crash has had a few too many shots of Jagermeister
in that photo, Deej! :D
Neil
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Heh!.....well.......here's one to smile about. No need to include a picture
>of me. We're all starting to look alike around here.
>
>;o)
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>news:46b64fbc$1@linux...
>>
>> Good luck with Crashbasket.
>> Photos of you and the dogs always put a smile on my face.
>> Fingers crossed for a good outcome.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>Well.........crap........
>>>
>>>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>>>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>>
>>>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>>
>>>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
>> dog
>>>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>>
>>>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>>
>>>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
>>>during
>>
>>>his remaining years.
>>>
>>>;o(
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>“They only do 12 channels at 96k, though...”
Right – My bad.
XR new for 1600? Around 1900 is the best I’ve seen.
Gene
Graham Duncan <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
>HD24XRs can be purchased new for around $1600 at a few dealers. They
>only do 12 channels at 96k, though...
>
>Graham
>
>Gene Lennon wrote:
>> Any laptop that can handle 20 plus tracks at high sample rates will be
an
>> expensive setup. I know because I have one.
>>
>> I would look for a used Alesis HD24XR. Should be around $1600 used. The
HD24XR
>> can dependably handle 24 tracks at 96 and has good sounding converters.
Sell
>> it when you are done for what you paid for it.
>>
>> If you move down to 24/44.1 your inexpensive laptop idea will probably
work.
>>
>>
>> GeneI agree with you about generic fiewire chipsets.
Most of your boutique hardware companies are not equiped to program great
fiewire drivers. that's why companies like apogee prism lynx all struggle
with adding firewire.. I'm told that writing good firewire drivers is very
complicated.
having said all of that, ilm not impreessed with the sound quality of RME
audio devices..they sound too stale and bland..the converter have no balls
.. But if you like converters with no color, than it cool..
MOtU: strange..But, we have found that motus interfaces really shinw whwn
using their daw DP..that same motu unit , in our case the 896HD sounds generic
and bland when used with other daws(logic,cubase)..Just like paris's I/o
sounded plain jane when used in other audio apps..
but I would say that motus audio hardware when married to their daw (digital)perfomer
sounds as good as anything on the market..I own DP(4) and would use it but
I that daw is too midi first for me.. but a very deep app for sure..
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI DJ,
>
>
>Nope not yet.
>Looks like its got some nice converters and such and the DSD function
>look interesting.
>Their excuse for using a generic firewire chip is lame but otherwise the
>thing seems cool. I'd rather it had a AD/DA to use with other hardware
>myself.
>
>Chris
>
>
>DJ wrote:
>> Chris,
>>
>> Have you had a chance to try the new Prismsound FW interface? Surely you
got
>> a couple of those just laying around gathering dust, right?
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:46b0b621$1@linux...
>>> HI Dan,
>>>
>>> The lowest latency Firewire device with the most most robust and supported
>>> drivers is the Fireface 400 or 800 series by far.
>>> Sound quality of the AD/DA is excellent for the price range it is in.
>>> As for features RME and MOTU have the most overall functional features.
>>> The closest unit from MOTU that I think compares to the Fireface would
be
>>> the 896HD.
>>>
>>> RME and MOTU are the only ones able to get stable lower latencies on
the
>>> majority of the machines. mainly because they are both proprietary
>>> firewire protocols unlike the rest who all use a couple generic chip
and
>>> driver protocols and just slap their logo on it.
>>>
>>> In general I think RME and Lynx have the best tech support and driver
>>> development around.
>>>
>>> As for overall sound quality on the lower end ones.
>>> I think the these are the best of the bunch.
>>> TC Konnekt 24d (IMHO best sounding of the cheaper ones)
>>> Mackie Onyx 400f
>>> Tascam FW1804
>>> M-Audio FW410 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
>>> M-Audio FW1814 (can be used with the Pro Tools LE M-Powered , Woopie)
>>>
>>> They all some combination of hardware compatibility, driver issues,
>>> programs support issues but of course so does Paris.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> dan b wrote:
>>>> Hi, I'm pretty much decided that I'm after an RME Fireface 400 (with
>>>> Cubase 4
>>>> or SX 3). This will be a supplement to my Paris rig, and I suspect I'll
>>>> gradually
>>>> phase out Paris (sob). Lack of non-native inserts on subgroups and master
>>>> bus, lack of latency compensation, no support for 96 k, etc, is getting
a
>>>> bit frustrating. Anyone have any experience with the FF400? How does
>>>> audio quality stand up
>>>> to Paris? I'm not too concerned about the pres as I've got a DAV BG2
and
>>>> an SPL Gold Mike (Mk 1). Most critical is A/D and D/A quality; also
>>>> stability
>>>> (I'll be using it with a Dell XPS 2.0 ghz 2 gig ram laptop). Any thoughts
>>>> / experience on how the converters of the FF stack up against
>>>> Paris, Metric Halo 2882, or any of the Firewire interface competition
-
>>>> e.g.
>>>> Focusrite Saffire 26 (which seems to have a killer featureset, I'm just
>>>> worried
>>>> about compromise on quality), Makie 400F, etc. Many thanks, Dan
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.comThe other issue is I think Neil wants to stick to 88.2 sampling rate.
Didn't Emu have a 1616 with the Digidesign convertors in it that were
supposed to sound pretty good? AH, yes... here it is:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--EMU1616M
AA
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:46b6a7d2$1@linux...
>
> "They only do 12 channels at 96k, though..."
>
> Right - My bad.
>
> XR new for 1600? Around 1900 is the best I've seen.
>
> Gene
>
>
>
>
>
> Graham Duncan <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
>>HD24XRs can be purchased new for around $1600 at a few dealers. They
>>only do 12 channels at 96k, though...
>>
>>Graham
>>
>>Gene Lennon wrote:
>>> Any laptop that can handle 20 plus tracks at high sample rates will be
> an
>>> expensive setup. I know because I have one.
>>>
>>> I would look for a used Alesis HD24XR. Should be around $1600 used. The
> HD24XR
>>> can dependably handle 24 tracks at 96 and has good sounding converters.
> Sell
>>> it when you are done for what you paid for it.
>>>
>>> If you move down to 24/44.1 your inexpensive laptop idea will probably
> work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>Nope, the defrag did not make any difference. Thanks for the idea. Still
takes 5-6 minutes to load.
"Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks. It's running, just takes a long time of course. Will report back.
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>Yes - Optimize and Defrag are the same, I think. Most folks say DON'T
defrag
>>audio drives but DO defrag system drives every now and then.
>>
>>gantt
>>
>>
>>
>>"Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>When you say "optimize", do you know if that's similar to defragmenting
>>on
>>>Windows? Anyway, that's definitely a good idea (to defrag, at least),
>so
>>>I'm trying that as I type this, will post results.
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I run Paris on a Mac, so this may not be helpful, but I found that Paris
>>>was
>>>>taking forever - I mean FOREVER! like 6 to 7 minutes! - to load the Waves
>>>>plugins. Then one day I optimized my boot drive and Paris now boots
in
>>>about
>>>>a minute.
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>>
>>>>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple
>>or
>>>>so
>>>>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new
project
>>>>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen
and
>>>>the
>>>>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
>>>splash
>>>>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that time,
>>>>the
>>>>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all graphics
>>>>show,
>>>>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes.
>Then
>>>>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that
has
>>>>had
>>>>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works
>just
>>>>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Pull up task manager before launching Paris, see if there is any foolishness
going on with RAM or CPU, and look at what process/app is causing it. Might
be some clues there man.
AA
"Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote in message
news:46b6b3b3$1@linux...
>
> Nope, the defrag did not make any difference. Thanks for the idea. Still
> takes 5-6 minutes to load.
>
> "Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks. It's running, just takes a long time of course. Will report
>>back.
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes - Optimize and Defrag are the same, I think. Most folks say DON'T
> defrag
>>>audio drives but DO defrag system drives every now and then.
>>>
>>>gantt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>When you say "optimize", do you know if that's similar to defragmenting
>>>on
>>>>Windows? Anyway, that's definitely a good idea (to defrag, at least),
>>so
>>>>I'm trying that as I type this, will post results.
>>>>
>>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I run Paris on a Mac, so this may not be helpful, but I found that
>>>>>Paris
>>>>was
>>>>>taking forever - I mean FOREVER! like 6 to 7 minutes! - to load the
>>>>>Waves
>>>>>plugins. Then one day I optimized my boot drive and Paris now boots
> in
>>>>about
>>>>>a minute.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple
>>>or
>>>>>so
>>>>>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new
> project
>>>>>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen
> and
>>>>>the
>>>>>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
>>>>splash
>>>>>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that
>>>>>>time,
>>>>>the
>>>>>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all
>>>>>>graphics
>>>>>show,
>>>>>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes.
>
>>Then
>>>>>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that
> has
>>>>>had
>>>>>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works
>>just
>>>>>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Heeheh!!..That's his girlfriend, Muffin. She's a hoot.
;o)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b6a475$1@linux...
>
> Looks like Crash has had a few too many shots of Jagermeister
> in that photo, Deej! :D
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Heh!.....well.......here's one to smile about. No need to include a
>>picture
>
>>of me. We're all starting to look alike around here.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>>news:46b64fbc$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Good luck with Crashbasket.
>>> Photos of you and the dogs always put a smile on my face.
>>> Fingers crossed for a good outcome.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>>Well.........crap........
>>>>
>>>>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>>>>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year).
>>>>Looks
>>>
>>>>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both
>>>>knees
>>>
>>>>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
>>> dog
>>>>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>>>
>>>>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>>>
>>>>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
>
>>>>during
>>>
>>>>his remaining years.
>>>>
>>>>;o(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>Best of luck with Crashbasket Deej!!
I always enjoy your pics and stories of him. Be sure to keep us tuned on
the surgery and the recuperation!!!
Cheers,
Jon
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Well.........crap........
>
>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
dog
>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
>his remaining years.
>
>;o(
>
>While I would LIKE to stick with 88.2k (you know me by now,
it's a resolution thang), I don't necessarily have to for this
series of recordings.. like i said, it's live, it's going to be
in a place that really probably sucks bigtime acoustically, as
it was originally designed to be a warehouse, not a soundstage
or even a club - i think the long side is going to be well over
200 feet, from what I gather (I might get to go see & hear the
place with a band practicing in it tomorrow - will know more
then, if that occurs... at least i'll get an idea of the sound
of the place, minus the crowd), so it's going to be a
challenge no matter what, but I would like to give myself every
advantage. If the advantage comes down to 88.2k with as many
tracks as I need, then that would be great - if the advantage
comes down to the economics of 44.1k with as many tracks as I
can muster that will still give me good separation & isolation,
then that might just be the way to go, too. Ya know?
Either way, I don't think that 1616 would cut it... not enough
inputs, irrespective of the samplerate.
Neil
>Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>The other issue is I think Neil wants to stick to 88.2 sampling rate.
>Didn't Emu have a 1616 with the Digidesign convertors in it that were
>supposed to sound pretty good? AH, yes... here it is:
>
>http://www.zzounds.com/item--EMU1616M
>
>AA
>
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>news:46b6a7d2$1@linux...
>>
>> "They only do 12 channels at 96k, though..."
>>
>> Right - My bad.
>>
>> XR new for 1600? Around 1900 is the best I've seen.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Graham Duncan <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
>>>HD24XRs can be purchased new for around $1600 at a few dealers. They
>>>only do 12 channels at 96k, though...
>>>
>>>Graham
>>>
>>>Gene Lennon wrote:
>>>> Any laptop that can handle 20 plus tracks at high sample rates will
be
>> an
>>>> expensive setup. I know because I have one.
>>>>
>>>> I would look for a used Alesis HD24XR. Should be around $1600 used.
The
>> HD24XR
>>>> can dependably handle 24 tracks at 96 and has good sounding converters.
>> Sell
>>>> it when you are done for what you paid for it.
>>>>
>>>> If you move down to 24/44.1 your inexpensive laptop idea will probably
>> work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gene
>>
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>HI Neil,
>
>No current or future laptops will have card bus. Any companies
>that still sell them are selling EOL hardware.
So you're saying if I want to buy an RME PCMCIA cardbus
interface, I'd have to pair that with an older laptop,
regardless???
If that's the case, then Firewire seems to be the no-brainer
solution here with regard to laptop multitracking, yes?
And BTW, I would love to be able to patronize you for one of
your (not $3,000, but $1,700) laptops, but you know that's
still a little steep for a soundgathering-only solution, right?
I mean if I were looking for a robust purpose-built laptop that
would enable me to do mixing & everything on there, that'd be a
different story, knowwhatahmean?
NeilHave you tried a zip/rar backup of the whole Paris map, then uninstall Paris
and everything in that map, close down the computer and start it again and
start up a new Parisinstallation to see how the new one workes when
restarted? If you need some files from the old installation, just import it
one and one from the zip/rar archive and test what's happening. That way, I
think you can eliminate if it's a problem with the Paris software.
Erling
"Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> skrev i melding news:46b6b3b3$1@linux...
>
> Nope, the defrag did not make any difference. Thanks for the idea. Still
> takes 5-6 minutes to load.
>
> "Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks. It's running, just takes a long time of course. Will report
>>back.
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Yes - Optimize and Defrag are the same, I think. Most folks say DON'T
> defrag
>>>audio drives but DO defrag system drives every now and then.
>>>
>>>gantt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Wilson" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>When you say "optimize", do you know if that's similar to defragmenting
>>>on
>>>>Windows? Anyway, that's definitely a good idea (to defrag, at least),
>>so
>>>>I'm trying that as I type this, will post results.
>>>>
>>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I run Paris on a Mac, so this may not be helpful, but I found that
>>>>>Paris
>>>>was
>>>>>taking forever - I mean FOREVER! like 6 to 7 minutes! - to load the
>>>>>Waves
>>>>>plugins. Then one day I optimized my boot drive and Paris now boots
> in
>>>>about
>>>>>a minute.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>>"Wilson Zorn" <wilson.zorn@asterick.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi. I'm on Windows XP and PARIS was working fine until just a couple
>>>or
>>>>>so
>>>>>>months ago. Now when it starts up (or even if you just start a new
> project
>>>>>>when already in PARIS) it takes several minutes. The splash screen
> and
>>>>>the
>>>>>>start-up bits when you see the splash screen are fine. It's after the
>>>>splash
>>>>>>screen finishes, and just as the Project window comes up; at that
>>>>>>time,
>>>>>the
>>>>>>Project window just sits there, half-displaying (i.e., not all
>>>>>>graphics
>>>>>show,
>>>>>>just a couple menu options and a blank window) for several minutes.
>
>>Then
>>>>>>finally it comes up fine. I have tried disabling all plugins, that
> has
>>>>>had
>>>>>>no effect. The hardware seems all to be fine. Once up, PARIS works
>>just
>>>>>>fine, no other anomalies. Any ideas? Thanks much.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi Neil,
Neil wrote:
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> HI Neil,
>>
>> No current or future laptops will have card bus. Any companies
>> that still sell them are selling EOL hardware.
>>
>
> So you're saying if I want to buy an RME PCMCIA cardbus
> interface, I'd have to pair that with an older laptop,
> regardless???
>
Yes
> If that's the case, then Firewire seems to be the no-brainer
> solution here with regard to laptop multitracking, yes?
>
yes
> And BTW, I would love to be able to patronize you for one of
> your (not $3,000, but $1,700) laptops, but you know that's
> still a little steep for a soundgathering-only solution, right?
> I mean if I were looking for a robust purpose-built laptop that
> would enable me to do mixing & everything on there, that'd be a
> different story, knowwhatahmean?
>
Yes I know but figured I mention a machine that can do allot more than
just record some tracks. Heck when not using for live you could alway
use it for VSTi or effect processing and such.:)
If all you plan on doing with forever is record some shows then you
would be looking at $1300 - $1500 range for a machine that can be
upgraded later. You will need to be careful with some of the ultra cheap
laptops. They tend to be like the ultra cheap desktops in that they will
have a limited upgrade path and tend use very low quality components.
If all you ever want to do is record some gigs then the Alesis HD
recorder is a good option but size wise isn't much different than using
a Mid-Tower desktop.
> Neil
>
Chris
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Neil, fwiw, I recently got an HP Pavilion 6426us laptop - core 2 duo with
120G drive and 1G ram for $799 and it runs great. I haven't multitracked a
gig, but have run full res DV video and audio for a corporate conference to
large screen projectors (desktop clone via a media presentation app) and it
performed flawlessly for two days straight - all off of the system drive no
less (and a cheap USB audio interface too running audio playback as I
couldn't tear my Fireface out of my studio due to other project
deadlines)... and on Win Vista. Once the MidiOverLan guys get the Vista
installer fixed I'm planning to run sync'd video off of it via Chaingang in
the studio.
Cubase 4 actually runs fine on Vista, though I haven't tested it. I can't
attest to using it for your intended purpose, or doing multitrack 88.2k, but
fwiw...
All that to say, you really don't have to go uber-DAW with the laptop to get
solid performance, even if it doesn't hurt to do so. The HPs do have a TI
chipset for firewire, which was a requirement for me. Firewire would be
your best bet for 88.2k rather than trying to get a PCMCIA laptop.
Dedric
On 8/6/07 1:55 AM, in article 46b6d3ec$1@linux, "Neil" <lOIUOIU@OI.com>
wrote:
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>> HI Neil,
>>
>> No current or future laptops will have card bus. Any companies
>> that still sell them are selling EOL hardware.
>
> So you're saying if I want to buy an RME PCMCIA cardbus
> interface, I'd have to pair that with an older laptop,
> regardless???
>
> If that's the case, then Firewire seems to be the no-brainer
> solution here with regard to laptop multitracking, yes?
>
> And BTW, I would love to be able to patronize you for one of
> your (not $3,000, but $1,700) laptops, but you know that's
> still a little steep for a soundgathering-only solution, right?
> I mean if I were looking for a robust purpose-built laptop that
> would enable me to do mixing & everything on there, that'd be a
> different story, knowwhatahmean?
>
> NeilI hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass, clarinet,
piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I turned
the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find the computer
locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in initialization;
Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what that means?
I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot volumes
- different OS, different paris installation - same result. I switched my
MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine so
it must be a hardware problem.
I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards in
a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip it
down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad card.
Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running running here
here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS card
in it and have it for a spare...
So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris Engine. Error
code -43/ffffffd5" means?
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Hey Gantt,
I'm guessing but check all connections to hardware,
ribbon cables etc. You had to change them to get the
old computer running so maybe . . .
Maybe reseat the EDS cards. Don't go too crazy yet.
Tom
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clarinet,
piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I =
turned
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computer
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means?
I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot =
volumes
- different OS, different paris installation - same result. I =
switched my
MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted =
fine so
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I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards =
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a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip =
it
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here
here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS =
card
in it and have it for a spare...
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe reseat the EDS cards. Don't =
go too=20
crazy yet.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
href=3D"news:46b747e6$1@linux">news:46b747e6$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I =
hate it=20
when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass,=20
clarinet,<BR>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything =
was fine=20
when I turned<BR>the system on this morning. I walk into the =
control=20
room to find the computer<BR>locked up. reboot and start Paris =
and I get=20
- "error in initialization;<BR>Paris Engine. Error code =
-43/ffffffd5". =20
Does anyone know what that means?<BR> I shut everything down and =
rebooted=20
- same result. I switch boot volumes<BR>- different OS, =
different paris=20
installation - same result. I switched my<BR>MEC to the EDS card =
that=20
lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine so<BR>it must be a =
hardware=20
problem.<BR><BR>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) =
with 3=20
EDS cards in<BR>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the =
first=20
step is to strip it<BR>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I =
can=20
isolate a bad card. <BR><BR>Thank God I have multiply redundant=20
redundancy systems running running here<BR>here. Else I'd have =
some=20
PISSED off people in my studio right now!<BR><BR>Moral of the story - =
Don't=20
throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS card<BR>in it and =
have it for=20
a spare...<BR><BR>So - any thoughts about what "error in =
initialization;=20
Paris Engine. Error<BR>code -43/ffffffd5" =
means?<BR><BR>Gantt</BLOCKQUOTE>
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------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C7D828.22265F20--Actually, to switch computers I didn't have to change anything but the MEC
and C16 connections from the Magma expander to the EDS card in the old computer.
I'll do some wiggling and re-seating before I start the really invasive
surgery...
Thanks!
gantt
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Gantt,
>I'm guessing but check all connections to hardware,
>ribbon cables etc. You had to change them to get the
>old computer running so maybe . . .
>
>Maybe reseat the EDS cards. Don't go too crazy yet.
>Tom
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:46b747e6$1@linux...
>
> I hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass,
=
>clarinet,
> piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I =
>turned
> the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find the
=
>computer
> locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in =
>initialization;
> Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what that =
>means?
> I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot =
>volumes
> - different OS, different paris installation - same result. I =
>switched my
> MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted =
>fine so
> it must be a hardware problem.
>
> I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards
=
>in
> a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip
=
>it
> down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad card.
=
>
>
> Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running running
=
>here
> here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
>
> Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS
=
>card
> in it and have it for a spare...
>
> So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris Engine.
=
>Error
> code -43/ffffffd5" means?
>
> Gantt
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Gantt,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm guessing but check all connections
=
>to=20
>hardware,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ribbon cables etc. You had to =
>change them to=20
>get the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>old computer running so maybe . . =
>.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe reseat the EDS cards. Don't =
>go too=20
>crazy yet.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A=20
> href=3D"news:46b747e6$1@linux">news:46b747e6$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
=
>hate it=20
> when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass,=20
> clarinet,<BR>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything =
>was fine=20
> when I turned<BR>the system on this morning. I walk into the =
>control=20
> room to find the computer<BR>locked up. reboot and start Paris =
>and I get=20
> - "error in initialization;<BR>Paris Engine. Error code =
>-43/ffffffd5". =20
> Does anyone know what that means?<BR> I shut everything down and =
>rebooted=20
> - same result. I switch boot volumes<BR>- different OS, =
>different paris=20
> installation - same result. I switched my<BR>MEC to the EDS card =
>that=20
> lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine so<BR>it must be a =
>hardware=20
> problem.<BR><BR>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) =
>with 3=20
> EDS cards in<BR>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the =
>first=20
> step is to strip it<BR>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I =
>can=20
> isolate a bad card. <BR><BR>Thank God I have multiply redundant=20
> redundancy systems running running here<BR>here. Else I'd have =
>some=20
> PISSED off people in my studio right now!<BR><BR>Moral of the story -
=
>Don't=20
> throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS card<BR>in it and =
>have it for=20
> a spare...<BR><BR>So - any thoughts about what "error in =
>initialization;=20
> Paris Engine. Error<BR>code -43/ffffffd5" =
>means?<BR><BR>Gantt</BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
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>
>Sorry to hear about Crashbasket - your a great owner, the dog is lucky to
have you! I've spent thousands on on one of our dogs due to bad breeding
practices (I called the breeder and had let her know also) so I know how
you feel (but they are worth every penny)... I hope everything goes well!
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Well.........crap........
>
>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
dog
>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
>his remaining years.
>
>;o(
>
>I do the same thing - I have two dual card systems as things seem to creep
in at the worst time.
Ditto on the conections - with me the MEC cables seem to lose connection
over time. Once I even lost all sound on the left side - reseated the cable
and boom came back...
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Gantt,
>I'm guessing but check all connections to hardware,
>ribbon cables etc. You had to change them to get the
>old computer running so maybe . . .
>
>Maybe reseat the EDS cards. Don't go too crazy yet.
>Tom
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:46b747e6$1@linux...
>
> I hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass,
=
>clarinet,
> piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I =
>turned
> the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find the
=
>computer
> locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in =
>initialization;
> Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what that =
>means?
> I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot =
>volumes
> - different OS, different paris installation - same result. I =
>switched my
> MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted =
>fine so
> it must be a hardware problem.
>
> I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards
=
>in
> a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip
=
>it
> down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad card.
=
>
>
> Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running running
=
>here
> here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
>
> Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS
=
>card
> in it and have it for a spare...
>
> So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris Engine.
=
>Error
> code -43/ffffffd5" means?
>
> Gantt
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Gantt,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm guessing but check all connections
=
>to=20
>hardware,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ribbon cables etc. You had to =
>change them to=20
>get the</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>old computer running so maybe . . =
>.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Maybe reseat the EDS cards. Don't =
>go too=20
>crazy yet.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Gantt Kushner" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:ganttmann@comcast.net">ganttmann@comcast.net</A>> =
>wrote in=20
> message <A=20
> href=3D"news:46b747e6$1@linux">news:46b747e6$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>I
=
>hate it=20
> when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass,=20
> clarinet,<BR>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything =
>was fine=20
> when I turned<BR>the system on this morning. I walk into the =
>control=20
> room to find the computer<BR>locked up. reboot and start Paris =
>and I get=20
> - "error in initialization;<BR>Paris Engine. Error code =
>-43/ffffffd5". =20
> Does anyone know what that means?<BR> I shut everything down and =
>rebooted=20
> - same result. I switch boot volumes<BR>- different OS, =
>different paris=20
> installation - same result. I switched my<BR>MEC to the EDS card =
>that=20
> lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine so<BR>it must be a =
>hardware=20
> problem.<BR><BR>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) =
>with 3=20
> EDS cards in<BR>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the =
>first=20
> step is to strip it<BR>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I =
>can=20
> isolate a bad card. <BR><BR>Thank God I have multiply redundant=20
> redundancy systems running running here<BR>here. Else I'd have =
>some=20
> PISSED off people in my studio right now!<BR><BR>Moral of the story -
=
>Don't=20
> throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS card<BR>in it and =
>have it for=20
> a spare...<BR><BR>So - any thoughts about what "error in =
>initialization;=20
> Paris Engine. Error<BR>code -43/ffffffd5" =
>means?<BR><BR>Gantt</BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
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>
>Anybody sprung the $3,100 for the MacBook Pro? (YIKES) It seems good,but
then you have to buy software,and some sort of interface. Anybody got the
$600 Apogee card for laptop? Also,anybody have success running Windows,as an
app, on a Mac?
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b647f8$1@linux...
>
> I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
> here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
> I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
> the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
> best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
> submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
> possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
> trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
> appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
> really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
> porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
> you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
> know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
>
> #1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
> interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
> which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
> Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
> Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
> channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
> lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
> live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
> no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
> for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
> off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
> that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
>
> #2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
> with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
> RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
> Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
> 40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
> 20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
> would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
> base" DAW. Thoughts?
>
> #3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
> RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
> but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
>
> #4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> #5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
> laptops! LOL! :)
>
> Thx upfront.
>
> Neilfor the life of me i can't find mine or remember the author...god i
love this ageing thing.
thanksHey Neil,
I have a complete piece of crap ACER that has cardbus for my RME interface.
I don't do high track counts but it works great with a vanilla XP install.
One thing to be careful about--I have has some pretty serious problems shoehorning
XP on laptops that come with Vista. It's always been possible, but usually
fairly unpleasant.
Another option to consider would be one of these.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/ped ge_860?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd
Not terribly expensive and reasonably portable.
TCB
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
>here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
>I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
>the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
>best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
>submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
>possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
>trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
>appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
>really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
>porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
>you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
>know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
>
>#1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
>interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
>which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
>Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
>Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
>channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
>lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
>live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
>no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
>for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
>off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
>that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
>
>#2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
>with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
>RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
>Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
>40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
>20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
>would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
>base" DAW. Thoughts?
>
>#3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
>RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
>but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
>
>#4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
>
>#5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
>laptops! LOL! :)
>
>Thx upfront.
>
>NeilRick,
Here's the link. You'll find the converter towards the bottom of the page.
http://www.parisfaqs.com/
Mark
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>for the life of me i can't find mine or remember the author...god i
>love this ageing thing.
>
>thanksOh man, I'm rootin for the old feller
"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Best of luck with Crashbasket Deej!!
>
>I always enjoy your pics and stories of him. Be sure to keep us tuned on
>the surgery and the recuperation!!!
>
>Cheers,
>Jon
>
>
>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Well.........crap........
>>
>>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>
>>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>
>>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
>dog
>>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>
>>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>
>>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life during
>
>>his remaining years.
>>
>>;o(
>>
>>
>For audio work you should be fine with a Macbook for under $1500. If you
want the MacBook Pro, you could get the least expensive one for about $2K.
Despite that, I'm still thinking about the top end 17" model due to the
optional HiDef display - mine would be a video editing and
graphics/animation machine as well as an audio box. But I'm waiting for
LED backlighting (the 17" HiDef model is the only Macbook Pro that
doesn't have LED backlighting yet).
For running MSWindows as a virtual machine under MacOSX you have several
choices: Parallels and VMWare are commercial options, and VirtualBox is
an open source option. Or you can use Apple's Boot Camp to reboot into
another OS if you don't need it to run at the same time. (I haven't used
any of them - I'm running software natively under OSX.)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
tonehouse wrote:
> Anybody sprung the $3,100 for the MacBook Pro? (YIKES) It seems good,but
> then you have to buy software,and some sort of interface. Anybody got the
> $600 Apogee card for laptop? Also,anybody have success running Windows,as an
> app, on a Mac?
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b647f8$1@linux...
>> I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
>> here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
>> I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
>> the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
>> best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
>> submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
>> possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
>> trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
>> appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
>> really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
>> porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
>> you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
>> know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
>>
>> #1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
>> interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
>> which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
>> Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
>> Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
>> channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
>> lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
>> live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
>> no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
>> for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
>> off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
>> that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
>>
>> #2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
>> with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
>> RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
>> Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
>> 40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
>> 20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
>> would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
>> base" DAW. Thoughts?
>>
>> #3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
>> RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
>> but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
>>
>> #4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
>>
>> #5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
>> laptops! LOL! :)
>>
>> Thx upfront.
>>
>> Neil
>
>Do you still have it. Email me please Thanks JimI just spent the last two hours in a big holding cage next to the Animas
River laying on a comforter with Crash. He was going to have no part of
being poked and prodded by the vet so he had to be tranquilized in order to
calm down for the vet to do the necessary tests to determine if his knee was
actually going to need surgery. The whole time I was praying for acceptance
of what was to happen and saying my goodbyes, just in case. These big dogs
sometimes fail during surgery.
The tranquilizer didn't really do the job so the vet came out and
administered a general anesthetic and did the flexion tests. The verdict was
that the surgery would be necessary so that's what is happening right now.
These guys are too big to make it on 3 legs like smaller dogs. My heart is
gonna be in my throat until I hear from them later tonight.
DeejI pulled the EDS card formerly known as card "A". Now Paris will boot but
it won't open the "Default Project",
I get a message saying "an error occured while reading the "Default Project"
for new Project settings. A new empty Project will be created instead.
There are not enough free resources available".
Then I get a message saying "error creating new project. There are not enough
free resources available"
Then I try creating a new project and get a message saying "There is no source
connected to this input channel."
Then Paris crashes. Every time. I have clients sitting in the tracking
room tallking while I try to figure this out. I'm not having any fun.
I just put an EDS card inside the computer and left the Magma box off. same
result.
Where's Edmund when you need him?!?!
Gantt
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass, clarinet,
>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I turned
>the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find the computer
>locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in initialization;
>Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what that means?
> I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot volumes
>- different OS, different paris installation - same result. I switched
my
>MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine
so
>it must be a hardware problem.
>
>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards in
>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip it
>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad card.
>
>Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running running here
>here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
>
>Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS card
>in it and have it for a spare...
>
>So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris Engine. Error
>code -43/ffffffd5" means?
>
>GanttHey Deej,
I feel for you. Taking care of a sick animal that you love is hard stuff.
I'll say a prayer for your pup...
gantt
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>I just spent the last two hours in a big holding cage next to the Animas
>River laying on a comforter with Crash. He was going to have no part of
>being poked and prodded by the vet so he had to be tranquilized in order
to
>calm down for the vet to do the necessary tests to determine if his knee
was
>actually going to need surgery. The whole time I was praying for acceptance
>of what was to happen and saying my goodbyes, just in case. These big dogs
>sometimes fail during surgery.
>
>The tranquilizer didn't really do the job so the vet came out and
>administered a general anesthetic and did the flexion tests. The verdict
was
>that the surgery would be necessary so that's what is happening right now.
>These guys are too big to make it on 3 legs like smaller dogs. My heart
is
>gonna be in my throat until I hear from them later tonight.
>
>Deej
>
>I'm going off of memory here, but I believe that meant a dead EDS card. I
remember Error Code 43 (3) times and all (3) times were dead EDS cards (bad
chips).
Brad
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass, clarinet,
>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I turned
>the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find the computer
>locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in initialization;
>Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what that means?
> I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot volumes
>- different OS, different paris installation - same result. I switched
my
>MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine
so
>it must be a hardware problem.
>
>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards in
>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip it
>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad card.
>
>Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running running here
>here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
>
>Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS card
>in it and have it for a spare...
>
>So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris Engine. Error
>code -43/ffffffd5" means?
>
>Gantt"jim drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote:
>
>Do you still have it. Email me please Thanks Jim
DJ Do you still have the C1"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46b7bd96$1@linux...
>
> Hey Deej,
>
> I feel for you. Taking care of a sick animal that you love is hard stuff.
> I'll say a prayer for your pup...
>
> gantt
>
Thanks Gantt.Hi Brad,
Yeah, I think you're right. I pulled one of the cards and bow the error
43 is gone, but paris still isn't happy. See my most recent post. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
gantt
"Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>
>I'm going off of memory here, but I believe that meant a dead EDS card.
I
>remember Error Code 43 (3) times and all (3) times were dead EDS cards (bad
>chips).
>
>Brad
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass,
clarinet,
>>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I turned
>>the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find the computer
>>locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in initialization;
>>Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what that means?
>> I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot volumes
>>- different OS, different paris installation - same result. I switched
>my
>>MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine
>so
>>it must be a hardware problem.
>>
>>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards in
>>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip
it
>>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad card.
>>
>>Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running running
here
>>here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
>>
>>Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS
card
>>in it and have it for a spare...
>>
>>So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris Engine. Error
>>code -43/ffffffd5" means?
>>
>>Gantt
>Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking forward
to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us for
the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be a
doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and messy....you
have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
greatful to be able to do it.
;oD
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
news:46b3ecdd@linux...
> Well.........crap........
>
> Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
> meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
> like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
> in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
> dog and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and
> play. That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to
> see this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
> during his remaining years.
>
> ;o(
>Gantt,
Go to the Paris.exe file in the Paris directory (if you are on PC.....I have
no idea if you are on Mac) and launch Paris directly from that. then
configure that project like you had your prefious default project and save
it as the new default project.
Deej
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46b7c510$1@linux...
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> Yeah, I think you're right. I pulled one of the cards and bow the error
> 43 is gone, but paris still isn't happy. See my most recent post. Any
> thoughts?
>
> Thanks!
>
> gantt
>
> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm going off of memory here, but I believe that meant a dead EDS card.
> I
>>remember Error Code 43 (3) times and all (3) times were dead EDS cards
>>(bad
>>chips).
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>I hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass,
> clarinet,
>>>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I
>>>turned
>>>the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find the
>>>computer
>>>locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in initialization;
>>>Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what that
>>>means?
>>> I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot
>>> volumes
>>>- different OS, different paris installation - same result. I switched
>>my
>>>MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine
>>so
>>>it must be a hardware problem.
>>>
>>>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards in
>>>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip
> it
>>>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad card.
>
>>>
>>>Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running running
> here
>>>here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
>>>
>>>Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS
> card
>>>in it and have it for a spare...
>>>
>>>So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris Engine.
>>>Error
>>>code -43/ffffffd5" means?
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>
>C1???...what's that? Isn't that a Waves plugin of some sort?
"Jim Drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote in message
news:46b7bf47$1@linux...
>
> "jim drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote:
>>
>>Do you still have it. Email me please Thanks Jim
> DJ Do you still have the C1I've done the Mac equivalent of that. It gives me a bunch of error messages
and then crashes.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Gantt,
>
>Go to the Paris.exe file in the Paris directory (if you are on PC.....I
have
>no idea if you are on Mac) and launch Paris directly from that. then
>configure that project like you had your prefious default project and save
>it as the new default project.
>
>Deej
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:46b7c510$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Brad,
>>
>> Yeah, I think you're right. I pulled one of the cards and bow the error
>> 43 is gone, but paris still isn't happy. See my most recent post. Any
>> thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> gantt
>>
>> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm going off of memory here, but I believe that meant a dead EDS card.
>> I
>>>remember Error Code 43 (3) times and all (3) times were dead EDS cards
>>>(bad
>>>chips).
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, bass,
>> clarinet,
>>>>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when I
>>>>turned
>>>>the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find the
>>>>computer
>>>>locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in initialization;
>>>>Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what that
>>>>means?
>>>> I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot
>>>> volumes
>>>>- different OS, different paris installation - same result. I switched
>>>my
>>>>MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted fine
>>>so
>>>>it must be a hardware problem.
>>>>
>>>>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS cards
in
>>>>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to strip
>> it
>>>>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad card.
>>
>>>>
>>>>Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running running
>> here
>>>>here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right now!
>>>>
>>>>Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one EDS
>> card
>>>>in it and have it for a spare...
>>>>
>>>>So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris Engine.
>>>>Error
>>>>code -43/ffffffd5" means?
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>
>>
>
>When our first Newf popped his ACL and had surgery I carried him up and down
stairs (outside and inside) at least 3-4 times a day, but he was only
125lbs. 160?.... who needs a gym. :-)
Our Newf #2 and the rest of our family wish Crash a speedy recovery.
Dedric
On 8/6/07 7:27 PM, in article 46b7cca5$1@linux, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _
dot _ net> wrote:
> Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking forward
> to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us for
> the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be a
> doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and messy....you
> have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
> greatful to be able to do it.
>
> ;oD
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote in message
> news:46b3ecdd@linux...
>> Well.........crap........
>>
>> Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>> meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>> like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>> in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
>> dog and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and
>> play. That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to
>> see this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
>> during his remaining years.
>>
>> ;o(
>>
>
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Gantt,
If you're removing cards, external hardware, don't have a default =
project
available in your system! That royally screwed me I think on a PC.
Like DJ says, whatever you do with these changes, start Paris with
the .exe (whatever it's called on a Mac) and nothing else until things =
settle down.
I'm not convinced your EDS is trash either.
Tom
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46b7d8a5$1@linux...
I've done the Mac equivalent of that. It gives me a bunch of error =
messages
and then crashes.
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>Gantt,
>
>Go to the Paris.exe file in the Paris directory (if you are on =
PC.....I
have=20
>no idea if you are on Mac) and launch Paris directly from that. then=20
>configure that project like you had your prefious default project and =
save
>it as the new default project.
>
>Deej
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message=20
>news:46b7c510$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi Brad,
>>
>> Yeah, I think you're right. I pulled one of the cards and bow the =
error
>> 43 is gone, but paris still isn't happy. See my most recent post. =
Any
>> thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> gantt
>>
>> "Brad Lyons" <brad@audioandmidi.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm going off of memory here, but I believe that meant a dead EDS =
card.
>> I
>>>remember Error Code 43 (3) times and all (3) times were dead EDS =
cards
>>>(bad
>>>chips).
>>>
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I hate it when this happens! I have two violins, viola, 'cello, =
bass,
>> clarinet,
>>>>piano and two singers wating to record. Everything was fine when =
I=20
>>>>turned
>>>>the system on this morning. I walk into the control room to find =
the
>>>>computer
>>>>locked up. reboot and start Paris and I get - "error in =
initialization;
>>>>Paris Engine. Error code -43/ffffffd5". Does anyone know what =
that=20
>>>>means?
>>>> I shut everything down and rebooted - same result. I switch boot =
>>>> volumes
>>>>- different OS, different paris installation - same result. I =
switched
>>>my
>>>>MEC to the EDS card that lives in my old computer and Paris booted =
fine
>>>so
>>>>it must be a hardware problem.
>>>>
>>>>I'm running Paris on a 1.25 gHz G4 (yup - a Mac guy) with 3 EDS =
cards
in
>>>>a Magma 13 slot expansion chassis. I guess the first step is to =
strip
>> it
>>>>down to one EDS card in the Magma to see if I can isolate a bad =
card.
>>
>>>>
>>>>Thank God I have multiply redundant redundancy systems running =
running
>> here
>>>>here. Else I'd have some PISSED off people in my studio right =
now!
>>>>
>>>>Moral of the story - Don't throw your old computer away! Keep one =
EDS
>> card
>>>>in it and have it for a spare...
>>>>
>>>>So - any thoughts about what "error in initialization; Paris =
Engine.
>>>>Error
>>>>code -43/ffffffd5" means?
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>
>>=20
>
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Paris=20
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Glad to hear crash is out the other side. Might have to stock up on
doggie downers for a while...
No...for Crash, not you
;-p
Jeff
DJ wrote:
> Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking forward
> to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us for
> the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be a
> doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and messy....you
> have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
> greatful to be able to do it.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Deej,
I hope Crash recovers to full mobility. What can you do to keep him
still for ten days? Did you build a pen? Sounds like a full time job =
at least.
Good luck to both of you,
Tom
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
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Deej,
Glad to hear crash is out the other side. Might have to stock up on=20
doggie downers for a while...
No...for Crash, not you
;-p
Jeff
DJ wrote:
> Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking =
forward=20
> to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on =
us for=20
> the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to =
be a=20
> doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and =
messy....you=20
> have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it =
and=20
> greatful to be able to do it.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>still for ten days? Did you build =
a=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck to both of you,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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the next=20
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one of those harness systems that they use in dog grooming
places to keep him in one spot.
Glad to hear he's past the surgical part!
Neil
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Deej,
>I hope Crash recovers to full mobility. What can you do to keep him
>still for ten days? Did you build a pen? Sounds like a full time job =
>at least.
>
>Good luck to both of you,
>Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message =
>news:46b7f1c4$1@linux...
> Deej,
>
> Glad to hear crash is out the other side. Might have to stock up on=20
> doggie downers for a while...
>
> No...for Crash, not you
>
> ;-p
>
> Jeff
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking =
>forward=20
> > to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on
=
>us for=20
> > the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to =
>be a=20
> > doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and =
>messy....you=20
> > have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it =
>and=20
> > greatful to be able to do it.
>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope Crash recovers to full =
>mobility. What=20
>can you do to keep him</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>still for ten days? Did you build =
>a=20
>pen? Sounds like a full time job at least.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck to both of you,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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> <DIV>"Jeff Hoover" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:jkhoover@excite.com">jkhoover@excite.com</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A=20
> =
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>><BR>Glad=20
> to hear crash is out the other side. Might have to stock up on=20
> <BR>doggie downers for a while...<BR><BR>No...for Crash, not=20
> you<BR><BR>;-p<BR><BR>Jeff<BR><BR>DJ wrote:<BR>> Crash is through =
>the=20
> surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking forward <BR>> to =
>cleaning up=20
> after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us for <BR>> =
>the next=20
> 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be a =
><BR>> doggie=20
> recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and messy....you =
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> have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
=
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> greatful to be able to do it.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>and=20
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>
>On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:27:24 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
net> wrote:
>Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking forward
>to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us for
>the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be a
>doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and messy....you
>have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
>greatful to be able to do it.
>
>;oD
Congrats. Good luck to you and the house pony!
pabAfter MUCH futzing around w/ re-installing Paris, pulling cards out of the
Magma, installing them inside the computer, putting them back in the Magma,
and finally trashing the Default Project I'm up and running again.
Thanks for all the suggestions! God bless this newsgroup, one and all!
I'm pretty sure the original problem was a bad EDS card in the "A" slot.
Ill test my theory another time. I'm goin' to bed!
Gantt
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Gantt,
>If you're removing cards, external hardware, don't have a default =
>project
>available in your system! That royally screwed me I think on a PC.
>Like DJ says, whatever you do with these changes, start Paris with
>the .exe (whatever it's called on a Mac) and nothing else until things =
>settle down.
>I'm not convinced your EDS is trash either.
>Tomthnx mark...and apparently i'm blind too. ;o)
On 7 Aug 2007 06:03:44 +1000, "Mark McDermott"
<nospam@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>Rick,
>
>Here's the link. You'll find the converter towards the bottom of the page.
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com/
>
>Mark
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>for the life of me i can't find mine or remember the author...god i
>>love this ageing thing.
>>
>>thanksGlad you're up and running agina, at least. TheSoniq can probably fix your
card.
Deej
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46b8080d$1@linux...
>
> After MUCH futzing around w/ re-installing Paris, pulling cards out of the
> Magma, installing them inside the computer, putting them back in the
> Magma,
> and finally trashing the Default Project I'm up and running again.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions! God bless this newsgroup, one and all!
> I'm pretty sure the original problem was a bad EDS card in the "A" slot.
> Ill test my theory another time. I'm goin' to bed!
>
> Gantt
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Gantt,
>>If you're removing cards, external hardware, don't have a default =
>>project
>>available in your system! That royally screwed me I think on a PC.
>>Like DJ says, whatever you do with these changes, start Paris with
>>the .exe (whatever it's called on a Mac) and nothing else until things =
>>settle down.
>>I'm not convinced your EDS is trash either.
>>Tom
>
>Hi Neil !
Thank you for asking.
These microphones are based on Telefunken U47.
They use the Neumann K47 capsule or by order the M7 capsule right from Germany
!!
No Peluso Chinese ones and surely no Chinese or other (Russians?) ones.
These are the real Neumann ones made by a Neumann worker in Germany.
Secondly I have only 6 microphones to get assembled and so there will be
a special price only on these models for 1750 $ plus shipping !!
The power supply will have all polar patterns and it will use tube stabilizer
!!
Two microphones already are reserved so there are 4 left.
I would happily take any preorder with some kind of advance.
The mics are called mUse47 ,they use the best VF/UF/EF-14 substitute with
same sound characteristics , this is not to be revealed, so that these mics
will last forever !
One tube will be included as spare !
There will be a 5 year warranty ,only shipping expenses both sides, including
tube !
These sounds wonderful as close to a U47 can be.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Neil" <OIUOI@OI.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Dimitrios - when are they coming out, what models are you
>going to be offering, where are you getting your capsules from,
>and how much are the mics going to cost?
>
>And finally, the most important question - are they going to be
>called Dimifunken & have a nifty "D" in a diamond-shaped logo
>on the front? :)
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hey DJ,
>>Wait for my microphones !
>>Although not exact clones sound is extremely close if not better.....
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>>You think you could talk himn into making me a U47? I hear he does a
great
>>
>>>job cloning them.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"Herm" <hkovac@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:46b447f5$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> The best guy is here in Australia.
>>>> Gunter Wagner
>>>> He worked at Studer then Nuemann. He still works for Nuemann a few months
>>>> of the year.He has built his own U48 copy.He services my tube Nuemann
>>
>>>> U48,U67
>>>> and AKG tube C60.
>>>> He serviced my V72 and does the DI mod.
>>>> email:info@german-tubemics.com
>>>> www.german-tubemics.com
>>>> Tell him I sent you
>>>> Herm
>>>>
>>>>>Kevin Nimmo, The Invisible Man Studio Services in Nashville.
>>>>>615-331-4570
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:46b351f0$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually... His engineers couldnt get all the parts he needed. I think
>>>> the
>>>>>> transformers were the problem. It has been a couple years & they
>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>> released anything like it.
>>>>>> My sad v72 has been sitting in a box in my studio since then. I knew
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> was bad when I could hear things sliding around inside the case!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>He probably is building them, he just wanted to make sure there was
>>one
>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>real one in the world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"michael hodge" <michael@michaelhodge.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:46b33d2b@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi to the best newsgroup on the web!
>>>>>>>> Hey anyone know who can reair my v72?
>>>>>>>> I loaned it to a major chinese manufacturer hoping he could build
>>
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>> came back in a mess. Maybe his engineers forgot to put it all back
>>>>>>>> together!
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi,
To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called mUse47,
that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real housing
clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or other
Chinese ones...
The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same" characteristics
to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in production
anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for my
microphones.
One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already reserved)
are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very super
price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
both ways to be paid...
If there is anyone interested let me know...
Thanks
Regards,
Dimitrioshttp://www.planetz.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=185119#185119
Enjoy !
Regards,
DimitriosCan we see a pic?
Any plans for a mUse67?
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called
mUse47,
>that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real housing
>clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
>These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or other
>Chinese ones...
>The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same" characteristics
>to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
>The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in production
>anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for my
>microphones.
>One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
>Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already reserved)
>are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very
super
>price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
>There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
>both ways to be paid...
>If there is anyone interested let me know...
>Thanks
>Regards,
>DimitriosAnybody want to place bets on this one?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20160745/?GT1=10252"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:46b87f2b$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called
> mUse47,
> that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real
> housing
> clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
> These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or other
> Chinese ones...
> The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same"
> characteristics
> to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
> The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in
> production
> anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for my
> microphones.
> One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
> Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already
> reserved)
> are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very
> super
> price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
> There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
> both ways to be paid...
> If there is anyone interested let me know...
> Thanks
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
I just spent $1815.00 on my dog........otherwise I'd probably do it.
;o)He's home.
;o)
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:ofvfb3t0f352qge5u3nvavsm009b3p6vqd@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:27:24 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
> net> wrote:
>
>>Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking forward
>>to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us for
>>the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be a
>>doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and messy....you
>>have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
>>greatful to be able to do it.
>>
>>;oD
>
> Congrats. Good luck to you and the house pony!
>
> pab
I don't know you well enough to know your sense of humor. Studio Projects
C1 in case you were serious. Thanks Jim
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>C1???...what's that? Isn't that a Waves plugin of some sort?
>
>"Jim Drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote in message
>news:46b7bf47$1@linux...
>>
>> "jim drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>Do you still have it. Email me please Thanks Jim
>> DJ Do you still have the C1
>
>What kind of mic did you get for the dog?
Chuck
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:46b87f2b$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi,
>> To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called
>> mUse47,
>> that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real
>> housing
>> clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
>> These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or other
>> Chinese ones...
>> The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same"
>> characteristics
>> to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
>> The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in
>> production
>> anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for
my
>> microphones.
>> One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
>> Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already
>> reserved)
>> are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very
>> super
>> price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
>> There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
>> both ways to be paid...
>> If there is anyone interested let me know...
>> Thanks
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>I just spent $1815.00 on my dog........otherwise I'd probably do it.
>
>;o)
>
>I'm using Logic Pro on a MBP 2.33Ghz 17" with 3GB RAM, 100GB SATA internal
(OS/apps) and external firewire (audio). DVI out to a 21" for dual display.
Blue tooth mouse. Firewire to Metric Halo 2882+DSP MIO, Mackie Control,
XT, and C4. It is great to have P&G flying faders and work nearly free of
keyboard and mouse.
Everything is solid, no lockups, great plugins, and instruments. And I love
the built-in convolution reverb Space Designer.
I'm sure one could run a comparable setup but with a Macbook instead of the
Pro. Slower CPU and less RAM limits how many simultaneous hungry plugs one
runs.
So for a modest mix an Intel MB would do fine. Also Logic can freeze tracks
if one runs out of CPU. Metric Halo MIO is quite mobile and works great for
live gigs etc.
Highly recommended.
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>For audio work you should be fine with a Macbook for under $1500. If you
>want the MacBook Pro, you could get the least expensive one for about $2K.
>
>Despite that, I'm still thinking about the top end 17" model due to the
>optional HiDef display - mine would be a video editing and
>graphics/animation machine as well as an audio box. But I'm waiting for
> LED backlighting (the 17" HiDef model is the only Macbook Pro that
>doesn't have LED backlighting yet).
>
>For running MSWindows as a virtual machine under MacOSX you have several
>choices: Parallels and VMWare are commercial options, and VirtualBox is
>an open source option. Or you can use Apple's Boot Camp to reboot into
>another OS if you don't need it to run at the same time. (I haven't used
>any of them - I'm running software natively under OSX.)
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>tonehouse wrote:
>> Anybody sprung the $3,100 for the MacBook Pro? (YIKES) It seems good,but
>> then you have to buy software,and some sort of interface. Anybody got
the
>> $600 Apogee card for laptop? Also,anybody have success running Windows,as
an
>> app, on a Mac?
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b647f8$1@linux...
>>> I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
>>> here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
>>> I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
>>> the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
>>> best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
>>> submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
>>> possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
>>> trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
>>> appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
>>> really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
>>> porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
>>> you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
>>> know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
>>>
>>> #1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
>>> interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
>>> which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
>>> Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
>>> Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
>>> channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
>>> lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
>>> live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
>>> no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
>>> for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
>>> off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
>>> that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
>>>
>>> #2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
>>> with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
>>> RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
>>> Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
>>> 40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
>>> 20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
>>> would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
>>> base" DAW. Thoughts?
>>>
>>> #3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
>>> RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
>>> but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
>>>
>>> #4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> #5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
>>> laptops! LOL! :)
>>>
>>> Thx upfront.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
>>And the new Mac mini and iMac pricing announced today offers even cheaper
options than the Mac laptops.
http://store.apple.com/
"Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>
>I'm using Logic Pro on a MBP 2.33Ghz 17" with 3GB RAM, 100GB SATA internal
>(OS/apps) and external firewire (audio). DVI out to a 21" for dual display.
>Blue tooth mouse. Firewire to Metric Halo 2882+DSP MIO, Mackie Control,
>XT, and C4. It is great to have P&G flying faders and work nearly free of
>keyboard and mouse.
>
>Everything is solid, no lockups, great plugins, and instruments. And I love
>the built-in convolution reverb Space Designer.
>
>I'm sure one could run a comparable setup but with a Macbook instead of
the
>Pro. Slower CPU and less RAM limits how many simultaneous hungry plugs one
>runs.
>
>So for a modest mix an Intel MB would do fine. Also Logic can freeze tracks
>if one runs out of CPU. Metric Halo MIO is quite mobile and works great
for
>live gigs etc.
>
>Highly recommended.
>
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>For audio work you should be fine with a Macbook for under $1500. If you
>
>>want the MacBook Pro, you could get the least expensive one for about $2K.
>>
>>Despite that, I'm still thinking about the top end 17" model due to the
>
>>optional HiDef display - mine would be a video editing and
>>graphics/animation machine as well as an audio box. But I'm waiting for
>
>> LED backlighting (the 17" HiDef model is the only Macbook Pro that
>>doesn't have LED backlighting yet).
>>
>>For running MSWindows as a virtual machine under MacOSX you have several
>
>>choices: Parallels and VMWare are commercial options, and VirtualBox is
>
>>an open source option. Or you can use Apple's Boot Camp to reboot into
>>another OS if you don't need it to run at the same time. (I haven't used
>
>>any of them - I'm running software natively under OSX.)
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>tonehouse wrote:
>>> Anybody sprung the $3,100 for the MacBook Pro? (YIKES) It seems good,but
>>> then you have to buy software,and some sort of interface. Anybody got
>the
>>> $600 Apogee card for laptop? Also,anybody have success running Windows,as
>an
>>> app, on a Mac?
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46b647f8$1@linux...
>>>> I might have the opportunity to do a series of live recordings
>>>> here coming up the near future, and if I do end up doing these,
>>>> I would want to do them in CubaseSX for ease of importation to
>>>> the "home base" for mixdown. They'll all be multitracked to the
>>>> best of my ability to mic them (or to take direct outs or
>>>> submixes off the board, if possible... I'm guessing "not
>>>> possible" for the most part) in the live environment, so I'm
>>>> trying to figure out the following, and any input would be
>>>> appreciated. These questions are laptop/notebook-specific, as I
>>>> really don't want to get into ripping out my main DAW PC &
>>>> porting it around for these ventures, and while - like most of
>>>> you, I suspect - I've rigged-up several purpose-built towers, I
>>>> know virtually nothing aout laptop hardware... so:
>>>>
>>>> #1.) I have two Nuendo/RME Multifaces - these are the only
>>>> interfaces I'm aware of that have a PCMCIA card available -
>>>> which would make things simple - just buy a cardbus card & Bada-
>>>> Bing!, I'm tracking with one of my Multifascia to a laptop.
>>>> Point then becomes, Can I go in at 88.2k & get a decent # of
>>>> channels? One Multiface will give me 8 analog ins, and 4
>>>> lightpipe ins at that frequency - might be bare minimum for
>>>> live rock, but 44.1k would give me 4 addtl. lightpipes (I have
>>>> no preamps with SPDIF out, so that's irrelevant in this case)
>>>> for a total of 16 - a little better... BUT.... is there any
>>>> off-the-shelf laptop that has 2 cardbus slots available, so
>>>> that I could use both of my Multifaces? There's question #1.
>>>>
>>>> #2.) Would it make more sense to get a slightly used laptop
>>>> with XP already loaded, or get a new one with more CPU power &
>>>> RAM, but that I'd have to backload with WinXP, rather than the
>>>> Vista that it would come with? Again, I'm not looking at 30-or-
>>>> 40-something tracks on these live recordings, it'd be in the
>>>> 20's, at most, so a used one might be OK, even at 88.2k, and it
>>>> would NOT be ued for mixdown - that would be done on the "home
>>>> base" DAW. Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> #3) Would it be easier to go Firewire with something like the
>>>> RME Fireface series? Then I'd have to buy a new convertor box,
>>>> but if it would make life easier, it might be worth it.
>>>>
>>>> #4) Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> #5.) And, no Chris Ludwig, I can't afford any of your $3,000
>>>> laptops! LOL! :)
>>>>
>>>> Thx upfront.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>Now THAT's a DOG! Glad to hear he's home...
Gantt
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>He's home.
>
>;o)
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:ofvfb3t0f352qge5u3nvavsm009b3p6vqd@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:27:24 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
>> net> wrote:
>>
>>>Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking forward
>>>to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us
for
>>>the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be
a
>>>doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and messy....you
>>>have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
>>>greatful to be able to do it.
>>>
>>>;oD
>>
>> Congrats. Good luck to you and the house pony!
>>
>> pab
>
>
>Anyway I can take one for a drive?
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Can we see a pic?
>Any plans for a mUse67?
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called
>mUse47,
>>that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real
housing
>>clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
>>These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or other
>>Chinese ones...
>>The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same" characteristics
>>to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
>>The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in production
>>anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for
my
>>microphones.
>>One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
>>Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already reserved)
>>are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very
>super
>>price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
>>There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
>>both ways to be paid...
>>If there is anyone interested let me know...
>>Thanks
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>I'd love to know why M A is out and Wolfie is in.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Anybody want to place bets on this one?
>
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20160745/?GT1=10252Maybe he doesn't want to be associated with a bunch of broken down
was-beens... smart if you ask me. ;-) Time to let it go...
David.
Cujo wrote:
> I'd love to know why M A is out and Wolfie is in.
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Anybody want to place bets on this one?
>>
>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20160745/?GT1=10252
>
>Probabkly right, I just wondered if it was like JPJ not being asked to play
with "Led Zeppelin" again.
By the way I saw the second Police show at Fenway Park last week. Wow! Andy
is a bit slower on the frets for lead work but over all, man a great sow,
and a killer deep set list, This comes from a guy who saw them a bunch "back
in the day" and expected nothing from this show.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Maybe he doesn't want to be associated with a bunch of broken down
>was-beens... smart if you ask me. ;-) Time to let it go...
>
>David.
>
>Cujo wrote:
>> I'd love to know why M A is out and Wolfie is in.
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Anybody want to place bets on this one?
>>>
>>>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20160745/?GT1=10252
>>
>>http://www.apple.com/ilife/
http://www.apple.com/ilife/guidedtour/
http://www.apple.com/iwork/
http://www.apple.com/imac/James,I'm smiling everyday with Apple's strategic moves. I've been saying
something bg is coming down the pipe from Apple. OR, maybe it's these little
strategic updates that keeps sniping away form MS.
The iWorks package is a very bold move to free apple users from MS-Office.
This tells me that soon, Apple will offer any Intel PC user a coice to use
OS-x and it's tools (Iwork,i-life..etc)..
I for one would move over to Apple's OS ina heartbeat...
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.apple.com/ilife/
>
>http://www.apple.com/ilife/guidedtour/
>
>http://www.apple.com/iwork/
>
>http://www.apple.com/imac/Hi All,
I'm not sure how many people this affects, but I recently picked up a C16
and was finally faced with the dual core/c16 issues first hand.
I've only tested for about an hour, but PARIS has worked perfectly for that
long without disabling the second CPU, and it froze up immediately without
the fix.
I'm using Windows XP pro with an Athlon X2 3800+ with 2 EDS cards and one
C16.
The fix is a utility that you can launch before starting PARIS that assigns
the PARIS software to one CPU. I selected CPU 1 for my tests. This leaves
the other CPU free to run a MIDI sequencer, do Windows housekeeping, or whatever.
The cpu software is here:
http://images.tomshardware.com/2004/05/28/getting_more_bang_ out_of_your_dual_processing_buck/taskassign.zip
If anyone has trouble downloading it, I could post it.
There's a tab called "application profiles" where you can browse for software
to assign a cpu affinity for it. As long as the program is running before
PARIS starts, everything seems to work fine.
I've also just managed to get PARIS running under Windows 98 SE on an AM2
motherboard if anyone is interested in the gory details.
Hope is useful to someone out there.
All the best,
MikeYay for all the Creamware users in this channel !!! Rejoice !!!Michael was on the radio here in Tulsa last week talking about this and said
he wasn't (as the article said) going to be on this one and expected that we
will never see a full band reunion due to egos and differences. I hope Eddie
can stay sober long enough to get through this proposed tour, I'd sure like
to see them.
AA
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46b8afbf$1@linux...
>
> Anybody want to place bets on this one?
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20160745/?GT1=10252Thanks. I don't have PARIS on my Opteron computer, but just in case... ya
never know.
David LOhhh...............sorry man. I was being totally serious, which shows you
what a space case I am right now. I don't have either of the C1's anymore. I
sold them both back in June.
Sorry for the seemingly strange response. I am in a seemingly strange place
right now...........even moreso than usual.
Deej
"jim drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote in message
news:46b8c603$1@linux...
>
> I don't know you well enough to know your sense of humor. Studio Projects
> C1 in case you were serious. Thanks Jim
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>C1???...what's that? Isn't that a Waves plugin of some sort?
>>
>>"Jim Drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote in message
>>news:46b7bf47$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "jim drago" <jamesd@prospect.k12.or.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Do you still have it. Email me please Thanks Jim
>>> DJ Do you still have the C1
>>
>>
>Nappy,
Just had you on my mind tonight and thought I'd see how things were
progressing. Still putting up prayers.
JeffI just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap. That's
what apple forums are for.I for one welcome the Apple news. Paris is a dual platform DAW remember..
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap. That's
>what apple forums are for.Because Mike plays VH stuff with Sammy in "The Other Half"
That rubs Ed the wrong way.
db
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:46b8da5b$1@linux...
>
>
> I'd love to know why M A is out and Wolfie is in.
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Anybody want to place bets on this one?
> >
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20160745/?GT1=10252
>Thank you LaMont, I'm glad you can appreciate the post.
Hey John, I'm just giving the Mac users and anybody else that's interested
a heads up. With in the iLife 08' suite is GarageBand 08'. GB is a great
little tool, I use it for quick song writing, composing, arranging, others
here have used it also. GB 08' has been improved with new features including
24bit file handling. On the multi media side, guys like Jamie and others
might be interested in knowing that there are new versions of Keynote, iDVD,
iMovie, with new file format handling. As far as the new iMacs go they
have a model with a 24 LCD that uses 2.8Ghz Core 2 Extreme processors, for
some guys that might be news.
I am no longer a computer dealer, I get no monetary benefit from any thing
I post here. Just information, no SPAM.
I do find it funny, that often when anything Apple is mentioned, it's "crap",
or there is some kind of bashing.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap. That's
>what apple forums are for.Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff here.
Chuck
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap. That's
>what apple forums are for.I have no problem with OT posts as long as they aren't selling something,
which none of these are.
Info is good. I don't use a Mac at the moment, but my wife does and I
frequent this group more than Apple's site,
so it can be helpful even for a PC user like me.
And if (I know, that's a big *if*) Apple releases OSX to the retail world at
large, I do want to know, though I'll probably be 178 and a bit dusty by
then. ;-))
Dedric
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46ba0148$1@linux...
>
> Thank you LaMont, I'm glad you can appreciate the post.
>
> Hey John, I'm just giving the Mac users and anybody else that's interested
> a heads up. With in the iLife 08' suite is GarageBand 08'. GB is a
> great
> little tool, I use it for quick song writing, composing, arranging, others
> here have used it also. GB 08' has been improved with new features
> including
> 24bit file handling. On the multi media side, guys like Jamie and others
> might be interested in knowing that there are new versions of Keynote,
> iDVD,
> iMovie, with new file format handling. As far as the new iMacs go they
> have a model with a 24 LCD that uses 2.8Ghz Core 2 Extreme processors, for
> some guys that might be news.
>
> I am no longer a computer dealer, I get no monetary benefit from any thing
> I post here. Just information, no SPAM.
>
> I do find it funny, that often when anything Apple is mentioned, it's
> "crap",
> or there is some kind of bashing.
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>That's
>>what apple forums are for.
>i've downloaded it twice and neither one when file is selected shows
anything other than recent in light (non clickable gray) and exit as
the only choices. is the file bad?never mind i found an old german link to one that works...weird...This thing has a mic pre - pitch correct - mic emu (not really but kinda works),
etc.... I have the software versions already but wondered if the hardware
version would work live... anyone use one live?
Would need to be in set and forget mode or?
BTW I have a singer that is smonetimes a bit flat which is why I'm thinking
of using this...
Thanks for the help!!Ok, post away, btw, I got an iMac I"m throwing out. What a slow POS.It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff here.
>
>
>Chuck
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap. That's
>>what apple forums are for.
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Ok, post away, btw, I got an iMac I"m throwing out. What a slow POS.
What speed is it? What processor is it?"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
> When I power up the computer I see the C16 flash, like it is getting
> power.
How many EDS cards do you have? If you have more than one, have you tried
plugging the C-16 into a different card?
Do any of the channel LEDs light up if you press and hold the "SubMix"
button on the C-16?
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.comHehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much on
topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite a number
of people get irritated by it.
I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
what's going on in Apple land so...
Cheers,
Kim.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>
>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff here.
>>
>>
>>Chuck
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
That's
>>>what apple forums are for.
>>
>"D-unit" <c0f@intrex.net> wrote:
>Because Mike plays VH stuff with Sammy in "The Other Half"
>
>That rubs Ed the wrong way.
Ed's an easily-offended guy, isn't he?
NeilI would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
are out there.
I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
& price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
LOL!
Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
Neil
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much on
>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite a
number
>of people get irritated by it.
>
>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
>what's going on in Apple land so...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>
>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff here.
>>>
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>That's
>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>
>>
>Yes, I think Dimi shoul not only send us one that we can ALL
take for a drive by bicycling it around the country from one of
us to the other for a week or two each, I think he should
include an original -47 in the package so we can compare a-to-b.
;)
Neil
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Anyway I can take one for a drive?
>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Can we see a pic?
>>Any plans for a mUse67?
>>
>>
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called
>>mUse47,
>>>that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real
>housing
>>>clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
>>>These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or other
>>>Chinese ones...
>>>The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same" characteristics
>>>to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
>>>The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in production
>>>anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for
>my
>>>microphones.
>>>One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
>>>Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already reserved)
>>>are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very
>>super
>>>price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
>>>There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
>>>both ways to be paid...
>>>If there is anyone interested let me know...
>>>Thanks
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
software or extended warranties.
THe verdict:
Dell Vostro 15" $1443
Macbook Pro 15" $2074
Still a ways to go.
JH
> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
> are out there.
>
> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
> LOL!
>
> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much on
>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite a
>
> number
>
>>of people get irritated by it.
>>
>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>
>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chuck
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>
>
>>That's
>>
>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>
>Hi Neil :)
I can give a money back guarantee though for a couple of weeks if you (I
don't mean you Neil but anyone interested) pay the shipping expense to send
it back and the microphone will be in working order...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Yes, I think Dimi shoul not only send us one that we can ALL
>take for a drive by bicycling it around the country from one of
>us to the other for a week or two each, I think he should
>include an original -47 in the package so we can compare a-to-b.
>
>;)
>
>Neil
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Anyway I can take one for a drive?
>>
>>
>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Can we see a pic?
>>>Any plans for a mUse67?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called
>>>mUse47,
>>>>that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real
>>housing
>>>>clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
>>>>These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or
other
>>>>Chinese ones...
>>>>The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same" characteristics
>>>>to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
>>>>The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in production
>>>>anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for
>>my
>>>>microphones.
>>>>One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
>>>>Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already
reserved)
>>>>are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very
>>>super
>>>>price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
>>>>There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
>>>>both ways to be paid...
>>>>If there is anyone interested let me know...
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>
>what's a sub memory stick? USB ? win98 requires you to install the drivers
for that stick and then it can see it.Hmm, it could be like the Stanley Cup trophy or something, that we all get
to have and use for a cetrain periond of time. Hmm, I'll take it for the
first 2 weeks of Septemeber.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Yes, I think Dimi shoul not only send us one that we can ALL
>take for a drive by bicycling it around the country from one of
>us to the other for a week or two each, I think he should
>include an original -47 in the package so we can compare a-to-b.
>
>;)
>
>Neil
>
>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Anyway I can take one for a drive?
>>
>>
>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Can we see a pic?
>>>Any plans for a mUse67?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called
>>>mUse47,
>>>>that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real
>>housing
>>>>clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
>>>>These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or
other
>>>>Chinese ones...
>>>>The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same" characteristics
>>>>to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
>>>>The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in production
>>>>anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for
>>my
>>>>microphones.
>>>>One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
>>>>Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already
reserved)
>>>>are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very
>>>super
>>>>price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
>>>>There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
>>>>both ways to be paid...
>>>>If there is anyone interested let me know...
>>>>Thanks
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>
>Hey D, do you have a pic?
"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>Hmm, it could be like the Stanley Cup trophy or something, that we all get
>to have and use for a cetrain periond of time. Hmm, I'll take it for the
>first 2 weeks of Septemeber.
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yes, I think Dimi shoul not only send us one that we can ALL
>>take for a drive by bicycling it around the country from one of
>>us to the other for a week or two each, I think he should
>>include an original -47 in the package so we can compare a-to-b.
>>
>>;)
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Anyway I can take one for a drive?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Can we see a pic?
>>>>Any plans for a mUse67?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>To anyone interested I have possesed the parts for 6 microphones called
>>>>mUse47,
>>>>>that will use a housing big enouph like the old Telefunken's , no real
>>>housing
>>>>>clones here, with Neumann K47 (or M7) capsules.
>>>>>These capsules are the real German capsules and not "Peluso" type or
>other
>>>>>Chinese ones...
>>>>>The tube is after a vast research the best substitute with "same" characteristics
>>>>>to the VF14 tube but the type will be not revealed.
>>>>>The good thing is that these tubes can be obtained although not in production
>>>>>anymore but there are plenty of them out there si I can handselect for
>>>my
>>>>>microphones.
>>>>>One tube will be inluded as a spare part.
>>>>>Because of these early productions which are limited to 6 (2 already
>reserved)
>>>>>are available to get preordered if there is anyone interested at a very
>>>>super
>>>>>price of 1750 $ plus shipping.
>>>>>There will be a 5 year warranty including parts and labour ,only shipping
>>>>>both ways to be paid...
>>>>>If there is anyone interested let me know...
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46ba89ee$1@linux...
>
> "D-unit" <c0f@intrex.net> wrote:
> >Because Mike plays VH stuff with Sammy in "The Other Half"
> >
> >That rubs Ed the wrong way.
>
>
> Ed's an easily-offended guy, isn't he?
>
> Neil
Well..
I think Ed feels like Mike really didn't contribute any writing
of all those songs that Mike's now cashing in on..
I understand that Mike had to sign over his royalties/rights to
the back catalog in order to play on the 2004 tour.
Thats what I heard.
I'll bet that Wolfie wont be ready for what awaits.. (not his fault)
db"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46baf87a$1@linux...
>
> what's a sub memory stick? USB ? win98 requires you to install the
drivers
> for that stick and then it can see it.
Win98SE will work if you install a driver.
I happen to have a generic universal driver that works pretty good
for a USB flash drive.
db"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46baf87a$1@linux...
>
> what's a sub memory stick?
I'll have to ask my Navy buddy about that..He used to be on a Sub.
dbI always forget just how big those boys are until I see pics. Good thing Great
Danes are known for their sweet personalities. I'd hate to run into a mean
one.
Good luck,
TCB
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>He's home.
>
>;o)
>
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>news:ofvfb3t0f352qge5u3nvavsm009b3p6vqd@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:27:24 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
>> net> wrote:
>>
>>>Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking forward
>>>to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us
for
>>>the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be
a
>>>doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and messy....you
>>>have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
>>>greatful to be able to do it.
>>>
>>>;oD
>>
>> Congrats. Good luck to you and the house pony!
>>
>> pab
>
>
>Check the Jack on the eds and the C16 - I have had those individual prongs
inside bend were they did not make good contact and the C16 would flicker.
If your carful you can re alighn them....not sure if this is your issue
or not...
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>> When I power up the computer I see the C16 flash, like it is getting
>> power.
>
>How many EDS cards do you have? If you have more than one, have you tried
>plugging the C-16 into a different card?
>
>Do any of the channel LEDs light up if you press and hold the "SubMix"
>button on the C-16?
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
>I belive you need the SE version of 98 also....
"D-unit" <c0f@intrex.net> wrote:
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46baf87a$1@linux...
>>
>> what's a sub memory stick? USB ? win98 requires you to install the
>drivers
>> for that stick and then it can see it.
>
>Win98SE will work if you install a driver.
>
>I happen to have a generic universal driver that works pretty good
>for a USB flash drive.
>
>
>db
>
>
>Germans make the best links - not bad with beer either...
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>never mind i found an old german link to one that works...weird...But, Jeff you are not factoring in Apples software that comes bundled with
the Powerbook..( iLife,Iwork,Garage band..etc).
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>software or extended warranties.
>
>THe verdict:
>
>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>
>Still a ways to go.
>
>JH
>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>> are out there.
>>
>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>> LOL!
>>
>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
on
>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
a
>>
>> number
>>
>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>
>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>
>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>
>>
>>>That's
>>>
>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>
>>LaMont,
Actually on the macbook I configured, iwork was a $79 upgrade. I was
thinking in terms of "I want a machine to run my DAW on". Love to have
Cubase 4 bundled, but it's not there on either side.
JH
> But, Jeff you are not factoring in Apples software that comes bundled with
> the Powerbook..( iLife,Iwork,Garage band..etc).
>
>
>
> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>
>>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>
>
>>software or extended warranties.
>>
>>THe verdict:
>>
>>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>
>>Still a ways to go.
>>
>>JH
>>
>>>I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>are out there.
>>>
>>>I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>& price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>LOL!
>>>
>>>Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>
>>>
>>>Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
>
> on
>
>>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
>>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
>
> a
>
>>>number
>>>
>>>
>>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
>>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
>
> here.
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>
>It's hard to get a good comparison because they don't quite match up exactly.
They do have a ways to go, however, there are a few things to consider with
Apple. The value is hard to see unless you really look at what your getting
for the money. With Apple you get a printer for free after rebate, that's
$100.00. With the educational discount you would get 10% off and get a free
iPod, that's four to five hundred bucks. With the ADC discount you can get
20% off the price of a new Mac. The software that comes with a Mac like
the iLife suite, Front Row multi media software with the Apple remote, iChat
AV etc. would be in the $500.00 to $600.00 range if you had to purchase something
comparable for the Dell. The operating system is also something to really
consider. Of course some people don't need a free printer, iPod, and will
never use a program like Photo Booth, so it really depends on your needs
and what you want.
One other point, and it's a bit of a stretch. If you were looking at cars,
and one had a plastic body and the other had an aluminum body, you would
expect to pay more for the aluminum body. The MacBook Pro has an air craft
grade hardened aluminum body. The case is aluminum, not just a thin aluminum
cover over plastic or an entire plastic case.
By the way, the prices on MacBook Pros will drop, the machines will get faster,
and they will have the new operating system loaded between Oct. and Jan 08",
so you might want to wait, if your actually considering a MacBook Pro.
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>software or extended warranties.
>
>THe verdict:
>
>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>
>Still a ways to go.
>
>JH
>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>> are out there.
>>
>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>> LOL!
>>
>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
on
>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
a
>>
>> number
>>
>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>
>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>
>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>
>>
>>>That's
>>>
>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>
>>Why do you always bring up the "educational discount" that's
irrelevant for nearly eveyone on the NG?
Neil
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>It's hard to get a good comparison because they don't quite match up exactly.
> They do have a ways to go, however, there are a few things to consider
with
>Apple. The value is hard to see unless you really look at what your getting
>for the money. With Apple you get a printer for free after rebate, that's
>$100.00. With the educational discount you would get 10% off and get a
free
>iPod, that's four to five hundred bucks. With the ADC discount you can
get
>20% off the price of a new Mac. The software that comes with a Mac like
>the iLife suite, Front Row multi media software with the Apple remote, iChat
>AV etc. would be in the $500.00 to $600.00 range if you had to purchase
something
>comparable for the Dell. The operating system is also something to really
>consider. Of course some people don't need a free printer, iPod, and will
>never use a program like Photo Booth, so it really depends on your needs
>and what you want.
>
>One other point, and it's a bit of a stretch. If you were looking at cars,
>and one had a plastic body and the other had an aluminum body, you would
>expect to pay more for the aluminum body. The MacBook Pro has an air craft
>grade hardened aluminum body. The case is aluminum, not just a thin aluminum
>cover over plastic or an entire plastic case.
>
>By the way, the prices on MacBook Pros will drop, the machines will get
faster,
>and they will have the new operating system loaded between Oct. and Jan
08",
>so you might want to wait, if your actually considering a MacBook Pro.
>
>
>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>
>>software or extended warranties.
>>
>>THe verdict:
>>
>>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>
>>Still a ways to go.
>>
>>JH
>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>> are out there.
>>>
>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
>on
>>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
>>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
>a
>>>
>>> number
>>>
>>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
>>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
>here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's
>>>>
>>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>
>>>
>Some people qualify so it's a good that James mentioned it. If you're
taking classes or teaching classes it's worth knowing about!
Just FYI, here's another discount: Amazon offers rebates, usually around
$150.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Neil wrote:
> Why do you always bring up the "educational discount" that's
> irrelevant for nearly eveyone on the NG?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> It's hard to get a good comparison because they don't quite match up exactly.
>> They do have a ways to go, however, there are a few things to consider
> with
>> Apple. The value is hard to see unless you really look at what your getting
>> for the money. With Apple you get a printer for free after rebate, that's
>> $100.00. With the educational discount you would get 10% off and get a
> free
>> iPod, that's four to five hundred bucks. With the ADC discount you can
> get
>> 20% off the price of a new Mac. The software that comes with a Mac like
>> the iLife suite, Front Row multi media software with the Apple remote, iChat
>> AV etc. would be in the $500.00 to $600.00 range if you had to purchase
> something
>> comparable for the Dell. The operating system is also something to really
>> consider. Of course some people don't need a free printer, iPod, and will
>> never use a program like Photo Booth, so it really depends on your needs
>> and what you want.
>>
>> One other point, and it's a bit of a stretch. If you were looking at cars,
>> and one had a plastic body and the other had an aluminum body, you would
>> expect to pay more for the aluminum body. The MacBook Pro has an air craft
>> grade hardened aluminum body. The case is aluminum, not just a thin aluminum
>> cover over plastic or an entire plastic case.
>>
>> By the way, the prices on MacBook Pros will drop, the machines will get
> faster,
>> and they will have the new operating system loaded between Oct. and Jan
> 08",
>> so you might want to wait, if your actually considering a MacBook Pro.
>
>>
>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>
>>> THe verdict:
>>>
>>> Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>> Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>
>>> Still a ways to go.
>>>
>>> JH
>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>> are out there.
>>>>
>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>>> "music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
>> on
>>>>> topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
>>>>> over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>>> stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
>> a
>>>> number
>>>>
>>>>> of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
>>>>> what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
>> here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>>>
>>>>> That's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> what apple forums are for.
>Because it is an available discount. I'm just pointing out the different
discounts.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Why do you always bring up the "educational discount" that's
>irrelevant for nearly eveyone on the NG?
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>It's hard to get a good comparison because they don't quite match up exactly.
>> They do have a ways to go, however, there are a few things to consider
>with
>>Apple. The value is hard to see unless you really look at what your getting
>>for the money. With Apple you get a printer for free after rebate, that's
>>$100.00. With the educational discount you would get 10% off and get a
>free
>>iPod, that's four to five hundred bucks. With the ADC discount you can
>get
>>20% off the price of a new Mac. The software that comes with a Mac like
>>the iLife suite, Front Row multi media software with the Apple remote,
iChat
>>AV etc. would be in the $500.00 to $600.00 range if you had to purchase
>something
>>comparable for the Dell. The operating system is also something to really
>>consider. Of course some people don't need a free printer, iPod, and
will
>>never use a program like Photo Booth, so it really depends on your needs
>>and what you want.
>>
>>One other point, and it's a bit of a stretch. If you were looking at cars,
>>and one had a plastic body and the other had an aluminum body, you would
>>expect to pay more for the aluminum body. The MacBook Pro has an air craft
>>grade hardened aluminum body. The case is aluminum, not just a thin aluminum
>>cover over plastic or an entire plastic case.
>>
>>By the way, the prices on MacBook Pros will drop, the machines will get
>faster,
>>and they will have the new operating system loaded between Oct. and Jan
>08",
>>so you might want to wait, if your actually considering a MacBook Pro.
>
>>
>>
>>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>>
>>>software or extended warranties.
>>>
>>>THe verdict:
>>>
>>>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>
>>>Still a ways to go.
>>>
>>>JH
>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>> are out there.
>>>>
>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
>>on
>>>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or
taking
>>>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
>>a
>>>>
>>>> number
>>>>
>>>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to
know
>>>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
>>here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>That's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>The discount is fairly broad:
For institutions: If you are a qualifying school, college or university (including
most private/public schools, TAFEs and universities) you may be eligible
for institutional discounts. You can determine whether your school qualifies
at the entry page to Apple’s education store. If you are not a qualifying
institution, contact Apple directly to determine how you might be able to
qualify.
For educators: If you are a member of staff (academic or non-academic) at
any qualifying institution, you are eligible for educator discounts. Proof
of eligibility, such as a recent payslip or staff card, is usually required.
For students: If you are a student (full time or part time) currently studying
at, or accepted into, a qualifying higher education institution (ie universities,
colleges but not high schools or primary schools) then you may be eligible
for student discounts. Proof of eligibility, such as a student card or enrolment
record, is usually required. Note that high school students are not eligible
for the discount.
For parents: In addition, as of April 2007 Apple has extended the discount
to parents buying on behalf of students currently studying at or accepted
into a qualifying higher educational institution. Note again, this does not
mean parents of high school students, but presumably from the moment you
are offered a place at a qualifying institution, your parents will be able
to use the discount on your behalf. Presumably, purchases made on behalf
of a student contribute to their annual purchasing limits, so it is not a
way to subvert the purchasing limits.
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Why do you always bring up the "educational discount" that's
>irrelevant for nearly eveyone on the NG?
>
>Neil
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>It's hard to get a good comparison because they don't quite match up exactly.
>> They do have a ways to go, however, there are a few things to consider
>with
>>Apple. The value is hard to see unless you really look at what your getting
>>for the money. With Apple you get a printer for free after rebate, that's
>>$100.00. With the educational discount you would get 10% off and get a
>free
>>iPod, that's four to five hundred bucks. With the ADC discount you can
>get
>>20% off the price of a new Mac. The software that comes with a Mac like
>>the iLife suite, Front Row multi media software with the Apple remote,
iChat
>>AV etc. would be in the $500.00 to $600.00 range if you had to purchase
>something
>>comparable for the Dell. The operating system is also something to really
>>consider. Of course some people don't need a free printer, iPod, and
will
>>never use a program like Photo Booth, so it really depends on your needs
>>and what you want.
>>
>>One other point, and it's a bit of a stretch. If you were looking at cars,
>>and one had a plastic body and the other had an aluminum body, you would
>>expect to pay more for the aluminum body. The MacBook Pro has an air craft
>>grade hardened aluminum body. The case is aluminum, not just a thin aluminum
>>cover over plastic or an entire plastic case.
>>
>>By the way, the prices on MacBook Pros will drop, the machines will get
>faster,
>>and they will have the new operating system loaded between Oct. and Jan
>08",
>>so you might want to wait, if your actually considering a MacBook Pro.
>
>>
>>
>>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>>
>>>software or extended warranties.
>>>
>>>THe verdict:
>>>
>>>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>
>>>Still a ways to go.
>>>
>>>JH
>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>> are out there.
>>>>
>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
>>on
>>>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or
taking
>>>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
>>a
>>>>
>>>> number
>>>>
>>>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to
know
>>>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
>>here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>That's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>pafwav convert. it's fully functional on win XP but not on 98SE
(which it always did before). app opens but most of the options are
either grayed out or not there at all.gotta link?
thanks
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:51:08 -0400, "D-unit" <c0f@intrex.net> wrote:
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:46baf87a$1@linux...
>>
>> what's a sub memory stick? USB ? win98 requires you to install the
>drivers
>> for that stick and then it can see it.
>
>Win98SE will work if you install a driver.
>
>I happen to have a generic universal driver that works pretty good
>for a USB flash drive.
>
>
>db
>
>you're asking me if i mean something other than what i
typed...courseof you.
On 9 Aug 2007 21:20:26 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>what's a sub memory stick? USB ? win98 requires you to install the drivers
>for that stick and then it can see it.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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There were two versions of this app... one specifically for XP
Try the attached older verision.
David.
rick wrote:
> pafwav convert. it's fully functional on win XP but not on 98SE
> (which it always did before). app opens but most of the options are
> either grayed out or not there at all.
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| Re: Am I being an ***hole here? [message #87584 is a reply to message #87580] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 21:14 |
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m> wrote:
>pafwav convert. it's fully functional on win XP but not on 98SE
>(which it always did before). app opens but most of the options are
>either grayed out or not there at all.weird, we posted the same thing at the same time...almost...you won. :-)
Rod
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>There were two versions of this app... one specifically for XP
>
>Try the attached older verision.
>
>David.
>
>
>
>rick wrote:
>> pafwav convert. it's fully functional on win XP but not on 98SE
>> (which it always did before). app opens but most of the options are
>> either grayed out or not there at all.
>Ah, but I attached the file! ;-) that means I win twice! :-)
David.
Rod Lincoln wrote:
> weird, we posted the same thing at the same time...almost...you won. :-)
> Rod
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>There were two versions of this app... one specifically for XP
>>
>>Try the attached older verision.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>
>>
>>rick wrote:
>>
>>>pafwav convert. it's fully functional on win XP but not on 98SE
>>>(which it always did before). app opens but most of the options are
>>>either grayed out or not there at all.
>>
>OK, OK, you win....wait, that means you win three times.
Rod
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Ah, but I attached the file! ;-) that means I win twice! :-)
>
>David.
>
>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>
>> weird, we posted the same thing at the same time...almost...you won. :-)
>> Rod
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>There were two versions of this app... one specifically for XP
>>>
>>>Try the attached older verision.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>rick wrote:
>>>
>>>>pafwav convert. it's fully functional on win XP but not on 98SE
>>>>(which it always did before). app opens but most of the options are
>>>>either grayed out or not there at all.
>>>
>>James is just jealous that I post all of the news about Debian releases. Let's
see, I've been reading this NG for about seven years, so that would be about
two posts.
If you laughed at that you're really and truly a geek.
TCB
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap. That's
>what apple forums are for.Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much more than
the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a pro environment.
Steve
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>software or extended warranties.
>
>THe verdict:
>
>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>
>Still a ways to go.
>
>JH
>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>> are out there.
>>
>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>> LOL!
>>
>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general purpose
>>>"music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty much
on
>>>topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or taking
>>>over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the politics
>>>stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
a
>>
>> number
>>
>>>of people get irritated by it.
>>>
>>>I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to know
>>>what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>
>>>>"Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chuck
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap.
>>
>>
>>>That's
>>>
>>>>>>what apple forums are for.
>>>>>
>>Sorry about that - my daughter got creative with the keyboard there. :)
Anyway, I have a somewhat similar set as you (GA-K8NS Ultra 939 w/opteron
185, 4 GB RAM, ATI 1950 512MB AGP, Lynx Studio AES16, Adaptec 39320 SCSI
PCI, SCSI 320 15K RPM drives x 2), and I was just wondering if you had any
issues with the IRQ sharing, specifically with USB craziness.
It seems everytime I plug in a USB 2.0 device, things go nutty. Recently,
it was my auxillary drive on channel 2 of my scsi card - just kind of disappeared.
Remove the USB device, scan for hardware changes (or reboot) and the drive
comes back.
USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 and ACPI are presently sharing IRQ 9, SCS card on 10 &
11.
Any ideas? Are certain devices better on specific IRQs?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
StephenIf you have two bucks burning a hole in your pocket and nothing to do for
a few minutes I suggest an old newsreel from 1942:
“How To Make A Record”
http://www.moviesinyourhome.com/show-titles.asp?cat=newsreel
If you invest the two bucks you might want to stick around and see:
“Back Of The Mic”, and a few others."Stephen Stecyk" <smp@smppro.com> wrote in message news:46bba285$1@linux...
>
> Sorry about that - my daughter got creative with the keyboard there. :)
>
> Anyway, I have a somewhat similar set as you (GA-K8NS Ultra 939 w/opteron
> 185, 4 GB RAM, ATI 1950 512MB AGP, Lynx Studio AES16, Adaptec 39320 SCSI
> PCI, SCSI 320 15K RPM drives x 2), and I was just wondering if you had any
> issues with the IRQ sharing, specifically with USB craziness.
>
> It seems everytime I plug in a USB 2.0 device, things go nutty. Recently,
> it was my auxillary drive on channel 2 of my scsi card - just kind of
> disappeared.
> Remove the USB device, scan for hardware changes (or reboot) and the drive
> comes back.
> USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0 and ACPI are presently sharing IRQ 9, SCS card on 10 &
> 11.
>
> Any ideas? Are certain devices better on specific IRQs?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Stephen
I have had some wierd issues with a Coolgear external USB drive on my rig,
but I have trouble with the same drive on other rigs. As far as IRQ sharing
goes, slot 4 will be the one that doesn't share with anything else. slot 3
will share with your Sil SATA Raid controller. Make sure it's disabled and
if you need SATA, use the NVidia SATA controllers and use slot 3 for the
Adaptec SCSI card. If you're still having problems, try swapping the Lynx to
slot 3 with the Sil SATA controller disabled) and try the adaptec in slot 4.
Other than that, I'm not sure what to tell you to try. USB HDE's haven't
been my greatest joy, to be sure.
Deejhttp://www.antarestech.com/products/harmony_engine.shtml
Is it just me, or are these demos *REALLY* bad...
I wouldn't spend a plug nickle based on the sound of those
demos...
David.I know of at least one UPS dude that might defer on that sweet doggie thing
:)
AA
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46bb1f24$1@linux...
>
> I always forget just how big those boys are until I see pics. Good thing
> Great
> Danes are known for their sweet personalities. I'd hate to run into a mean
> one.
>
> Good luck,
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>He's home.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
>>news:ofvfb3t0f352qge5u3nvavsm009b3p6vqd@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:27:24 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
>>> net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Crash is through the surgery and in recovery now. I am now looking
>>>>forward
>>>>to cleaning up after a 160 lb. dog who will be totally dependent on us
> for
>>>>the next 10 days or so. We're getting a spot in the den prepped to be
> a
>>>>doggie recovery center. It's gonna be stressful as hell (and
>>>>messy....you
>>>>have no idea) and I'm absolutely and completely thrilled about it and
>>>>greatful to be able to do it.
>>>>
>>>>;oD
>>>
>>> Congrats. Good luck to you and the house pony!
>>>
>>> pab
>>
>>
>>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46bb1f24$1@linux...
>
> I always forget just how big those boys are until I see pics. Good thing
> Great
> Danes are known for their sweet personalities. I'd hate to run into a mean
> one.
>
> Good luck,
>
> TCB
>
>>
Thanks Thad,
Crash is slowly recovering. It's quite an ordeal. I really haven't slept in
two days. I have to sleep with one eye open to help him shift positions and
support him when he needs to go outside. I've been sleping (well...trying
to) with him on a big palate on the floor at night.
The black & white dane in the attached photo turned vicious and we had to
have him put down. Broke our hearts but he attacked a friend of ours and
put 20 stitches in the guys head with one bite. He became more and more
aggressive and we finally had to face the fact that he was quite capable of
killing someone. Took me about 3 years to get somewhat over it. He weighed
over 200 lbs. The big grey one (ol' Blue-we lost him a couple of years ago)
was even bigger and I had to nurse him through knee surgery too in the
summer of 2002. By comparison, Crash weiths about 170lbs so he's a bit
smaller than these other two.
Still reading the book when I can come up for air. "Very" good read. I
appreciate your sending it my way.
Deej
How in the world could Andy Summers be any slower? He was the weakest link.
Cujo wrote:
> Probabkly right, I just wondered if it was like JPJ not being asked to play
> with "Led Zeppelin" again.
>
> By the way I saw the second Police show at Fenway Park last week. Wow! Andy
> is a bit slower on the frets for lead work but over all, man a great sow,
> and a killer deep set list, This comes from a guy who saw them a bunch "back
> in the day" and expected nothing from this show.
>
>
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Maybe he doesn't want to be associated with a bunch of broken down
>> was-beens... smart if you ask me. ;-) Time to let it go...
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Cujo wrote:
>>> I'd love to know why M A is out and Wolfie is in.
>>>
>>>
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| Re: Am I being an ***hole here? [message #87588 is a reply to message #87584] |
Wed, 04 July 2007 22:43 |
dc[3]
Messages: 895
Registered: September 2005
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> http://www.antarestech.com/products/harmony_engine.shtml
>
> Is it just me, or are these demos *REALLY* bad...
>
> I wouldn't spend a plug nickle based on the sound of those demos...
>
> David.You are selling your self short. I recall you posting apt get blah blah blah
at least 10,000 times :-)
Chuck
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>James is just jealous that I post all of the news about Debian releases.
Let's
>see, I've been reading this NG for about seven years, so that would be about
>two posts.
>
>If you laughed at that you're really and truly a geek.
>
>TCB
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple crap. That's
>>what apple forums are for.
>Hey Dedric,. The reason for this change is that Iwas over to a buddys studio
who btw runs PT-HD(8) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs. Cubase
3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non Intel)...
Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs on his
Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
Around 80 track..
We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all 4
bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
Hit the space bar..
Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the back
round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with ....Pro
Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer (Intel)
bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
Solid.. Solid Solid..
Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X and the
ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never a problem
>with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email, Skype,
>etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only stop spam
>mail from being sent (not filtered, but shot down at the source via a large
>burst of electricity designed to fry any and all spammer computers, Apple
>would really have something.... ;-)
>
>Let me know how Nuendo runs on your new Mac though, seriously. You'll have
>to wait for N4 to run on the dual core 2 Mac under OSX at least (should
be
>soon). I would be most interested in a head to head comparison of plugin
>counts in the same project under Nuendo, not just similar projects, but
>identical.
>
>The last report I read comparing XP to OSX for DAW performance was from
>Derek (used to be on this NG) - German Keyboards compared them and
>apparently (I don't read German to confirm) XP won on plugin count and low
>latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run on the
>same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better outside
>OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5 (Win) and
>Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS, I would
>buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for me.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to our new
Mac
>> Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>
>> I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the internet..sorry
>> but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>
>> I'll covert my current dual opteron daw into a dedicated vsti machine.
>>
>> LAD
>>
>> "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much more
than
>>> the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a pro
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>>>
>>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>>
>>>> THe verdict:
>>>>
>>>> Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>> Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>>
>>>> Still a ways to go.
>>>>
>>>> JH
>>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>>> are out there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general
purpose
>>>>>> "music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty
much
>>> on
>>>>>> topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive or
taking
>>>>>> over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the
>>>>>> politics
>>>>>> stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know quite
>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>> number
>>>>>
>>>>>> of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like to
know
>>>>>> what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of stuff
>>> here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple
crap.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>The interesting comparison would be to actually run the exact same project
on Cubase 4 under OSX and XP. 80 tracks and 5 verbs and 20 ren comps and
stock EQ wouldn't make my core 2 sweat either (I've run way more than that
with only 30% cpu load or so).
Remember, the new macs are the exact same hardware as any core 2 or dual
core 2 PC, though the components may not be as high end as I might build for
one of my rigs. The German Keyboards mag review apparently found XP to run
more plugins than OSX on the same hardware (intel dual core 2s).
Basically all you are getting is a nice box with a different OS. It might
be better multi-threaded - I would like to see some actual comparisons. I
might have to load OSX on one of my PCs.
Dedric
On 8/10/07 9:16 AM, in article 46bc8130$1@linux, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hey Dedric,. The reason for this change is that Iwas over to a buddys studio
> who btw runs PT-HD(8) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
>
> But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs. Cubase
> 3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non Intel)...
>
> Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs on his
> Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
> Around 80 track..
>
> We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all 4
> bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
> Hit the space bar..
> Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the back
> round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with ....Pro
> Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
>
> I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer (Intel)
> bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
> Solid.. Solid Solid..
>
> Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X and the
> ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
>
>
>
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>> Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>> registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never a problem
>> with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email, Skype,
>> etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only stop spam
>> mail from being sent (not filtered, but shot down at the source via a large
>> burst of electricity designed to fry any and all spammer computers, Apple
>> would really have something.... ;-)
>>
>> Let me know how Nuendo runs on your new Mac though, seriously. You'll have
>> to wait for N4 to run on the dual core 2 Mac under OSX at least (should
> be
>> soon). I would be most interested in a head to head comparison of plugin
>> counts in the same project under Nuendo, not just similar projects, but
>> identical.
>>
>> The last report I read comparing XP to OSX for DAW performance was from
>> Derek (used to be on this NG) - German Keyboards compared them and
>> apparently (I don't read German to confirm) XP won on plugin count and low
>> latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run on the
>> same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better outside
>> OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5 (Win) and
>> Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS, I would
>> buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>> bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>> On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to our new
> Mac
>>> Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>>
>>> I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the
>>> internet..sorry
>>> but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>>
>>> I'll covert my current dual opteron daw into a dedicated vsti machine.
>>>
>>> LAD
>>>
>>> "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much more
> than
>>>> the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a pro
>>>> environment.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No extra
>>>>
>>>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>>>
>>>>> THe verdict:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>>> Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>>>
>>>>> Still a ways to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> JH
>>>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>>>> are out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kim" <Report message to a moderator
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Thu, 05 July 2007 06:28 |
Dimitrios
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>>>>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general
>> purpose
>>>>>>>> "music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty
>> much
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive
or
>> taking
>>>>>>>> over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of the
>>>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>> stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know
quite
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like
to
>> know
>>>>>>>> what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of
stuff
>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple
>> crap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Anyone want to revive the old summing debate?
Check out Digi's In the box vs SSL comparison.
http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=49&langid=100& amp;itemid=25669If it wasn't done by Digi... sure. The are several flaws associated
with the test, and the mix files are compressed audio so it's
difficult to pick out the nuances.
Also this from the front page:
"we did an experiment to see how closely we could match some mixes
done on a large-format analog console using Pro Tools and modeled
console channel strip plug-ins, and have posted the resulting audio
files for you to hear"
This means it isn't an A-B summing thing... the PT mixes were altered
to try and "sound like" the SSL mixes... not a direct comparison of
ITB vs External Summing.
my $.02
David.
Steve Helm wrote:
> Anyone want to revive the old summing debate?
> Check out Digi's In the box vs SSL comparison.
>
> http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=49&langid=100& amp;itemid=25669Sad story. A friend of mine has the opposite--the biggest damn pit bull you've
ever seen who's about as cheerful and friendly as the nicest beagle you ever
met. Not nearly as smart as one, but as sweet a disposition as can be. We've
gotten along wonderfully once she figured out that while doing certain things
with her (gorgeous, black haired, ivory skinned) owner I was, in fact, _not_
trying to hurt her. Kaylee got a little protective. She also sleeps with
my friend which means on occasion I wake up to the sound of pit bull snores
and slobber on my pillow.
Did I mention the owner is hot?
Anyway, sorry about having to put your puppy down, that's always hard stuff.
Write me when you've finished the book.
TCB
"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46bb1f24$1@linux...
>>
>> I always forget just how big those boys are until I see pics. Good thing
>> Great
>> Danes are known for their sweet personalities. I'd hate to run into a
mean
>> one.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> TCB
>>
>>>
>
>Thanks Thad,
>
>Crash is slowly recovering. It's quite an ordeal. I really haven't slept
in
>two days. I have to sleep with one eye open to help him shift positions
and
>support him when he needs to go outside. I've been sleping (well...trying
>to) with him on a big palate on the floor at night.
>
>The black & white dane in the attached photo turned vicious and we had to
>have him put down. Broke our hearts but he attacked a friend of ours and
>put 20 stitches in the guys head with one bite. He became more and more
>aggressive and we finally had to face the fact that he was quite capable
of
>killing someone. Took me about 3 years to get somewhat over it. He weighed
>over 200 lbs. The big grey one (ol' Blue-we lost him a couple of years ago)
>was even bigger and I had to nurse him through knee surgery too in the
>summer of 2002. By comparison, Crash weiths about 170lbs so he's a bit
>smaller than these other two.
>
>Still reading the book when I can come up for air. "Very" good read. I
>appreciate your sending it my way.
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46bcd814$1@linux...
> If it wasn't done by Digi... sure. The are several flaws associated with
> the test, and the mix files are compressed audio so it's difficult to pick
> out the nuances.
Heheh!!!!!.....but what difference does it make really, if everyone is
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Thu, 05 July 2007 07:30 |
Neil
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e way.
I appreciate the effort and respect them for doing this.
Steve Helm wrote:
> Anyone want to revive the old summing debate?
> Check out Digi's In the box vs SSL comparison.
>
> http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=49&langid=100& amp;itemid=25669Video related? I have to ask, what's the video card in question?
AA
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:46bcff81$1@linux...
>A question about PT, (off topic I know), but I have (sometimes use), PT M
>powered.
> I always thought my comp felt sluggish, or at least the screed redraws
> looked sluggish, and that was on an Intel Core2 Duo 6600 with 2 gig of
> ram..shouldn't be the case right?
> Everything else seemed quite snappy...put not PT.
> Well.... now I just built a Quad Core (Intel Q6600) with 4 gb ram and an
> N-Videia 8500 card, (that was on the comp previously), and PT feels just
> the same....
> Is it PT?
> The meters seem really sluggish although I can get really low latency
> whist recording with no problems. the graphics are just crappy.
> Any ideas guys?
>
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
> 0414 913 247
>
>doh.. I mean what's the RAM on the video card.
Sorry, long day.
AA
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:46bd1511$1@linux...
> Video related? I have to ask, what's the video card in question?
> AA
>
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:46bcff81$1@linux...
>>A question about PT, (off topic I know), but I have (sometimes use), PT M
>>powered.
>> I always thought my comp felt sluggish, or at least the screed redraws
>> looked sluggish, and that was on an Intel Core2 Duo 6600 with 2 gig of
>> ram..shouldn't be the case right?
>> Everything else seemed quite snappy...put not PT.
>> Well.... now I just built a Quad Core (Intel Q6600) with 4 gb ram and an
>> N-Videia 8500 card, (that was on the comp previously), and PT feels just
>> the same....
>> Is it PT?
>> The meters seem really sluggish although I can get really low latency
>> whist recording with no problems. the graphics are just crappy.
>> Any ideas guys?
>>
>> Martin Harrington
>> www.lendanear-sound.com
>> 0414 913 247
>>
>>
>
>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>And if you are running an HD rig, the Mac route makes sense. (Of course
>there is no other option for Logic). I'm curious to see where the next
>version of Logic goes.
>
>I've been wondering if Apple would give it more of a tie in with FCP - more
>post capabilities. Maybe this time?
>
>Imho, Apple is missing a big boat by not letting OSX loose, but I have a
>feeling it might not play well with 80% of the hardware out there - one
>reason for a closed system, and of course, profit is higher with a closed
>platform, so I don't expect it to happen in the next 1425604 years. ;-)
>
>Dedric
I feel like I'm about to pour gas on this thread. Would you be willing to
pay $299.00 for a PC version of OSX if it was unsupported? Would you buy
it if there was no iLife or iWorks for it?
>
>On 8/10/07 11:57 AM, in article 46bca718$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey Dedric,
>> I see where you are coming from. For my needs, the Mac Pro with OSX is
just
>> fine. 80-120 tracks is fine for what I do..Plus, I don't monitor via in
the
>> box, so I can and do run my current DAW 2048 ms latency, which as you
know,
>> takes a "big" strain off the system resources..
>>
>> I guess, I'm really really impressed with OS-X and the ability to run
(true)XP
>> (via Boot Camp)on one machine. As well as, being ready for the NEW Logic
>> Audio..
>>
>> having said that, I would run Os-X on my current DAWs if Apple allow for
>> such. Yes, I know you can already do it(smile)..
>>
>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>> The interesting comparison would be to actually run the exact same project
>>> on Cubase 4 under OSX and XP. 80 tracks and 5 verbs and 20 ren comps
and
>>> stock EQ wouldn't make my core 2 sweat either (I've run way more than
that
>>> with only 30% cpu load or so).
>>>
>>> Remember, the new macs are the exact same hardware as any core 2 or dual
>>> core 2 PC, though the components may not be as high end as I might build
>> for
>>> one of my rigs. The German Keyboards mag review apparently found XP
to
>> run
>>> more plugins than OSX on the same hardware (intel dual core 2s).
>>>
>>> Basically all you are getting is a nice box with a different OS. It
might
>>> be better multi-threaded - I would like to see some actual comparisons.
>> I
>>> might have to load OSX on one of my PCs.
>>>
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>> On 8/10/07 9:16 AM, in article 46bc8130$1@linux, "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Dedric,. The reason for this change is that Iwas over to a buddys
>> studio
>>>> who btw runs PT-HD(8) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
>>>>
>>>> But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs.
>> Cubase
>>>> 3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non Intel)...
>>>>
>>>> Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs
on
>> his
>>>> Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
>>>> Around 80 track..
>>>>
>>>> We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all
>> 4
>>>> bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
>>>> Hit the space bar..
>>>> Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the
back
>>>> round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with
....Pro
>>>> Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
>>>>
>>>> I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer (Intel)
>>>> bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
>>>> Solid.. Solid Solid..
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X
and
>> the
>>>> ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>>>>> registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never
a
>> problem
>>>>> with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email,
>> Skype,
>>>>> etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only stop
>> spam
>>>>&
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Thu, 05 July 2007 07:36 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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>> low
>>>>> latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run
on
>> the
>>>>> same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better outside
>>>>> OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5 (Win)
>> and
>>>>> Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS,
I
>> would
>>>>> buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>>>>> bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to our
>> new
>>>> Mac
>>>>>> Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the
>>>>>> internet..sorry
>>>>>> but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll covert my current dual opteron daw into a dedicated vsti machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LAD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much
more
>>>> than
>>>>>>> the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in a
pro
>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>>>>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>>>>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No
>> extra
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THe verdict:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>>>>>> Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Still a ways to go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>>>>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>>>>>>> are out there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>>>>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general
>>>> purpose
>>>>>>>>>> "music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty
>>>> much
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive
>> or
>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>> over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of
the
>>>>>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>>>> stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know
>> quite
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like
>> to
>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of
>> stuff
>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple
>>>> crap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>God bless Crashbasket and give you and Amy the strength to keep on!
El Miguel
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hki8b3hkve65ghg8djrqjgas3q2ufb7e4j@4ax.com...
> sorry to hear the sad news about your family member deej.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 20:55:43 -0600, "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _
> net> wrote:
>
>>Well.........crap........
>>
>>Crash is in the weeds again. Blew out the ACL on his "good" knee (good
>>meaning the one that he didn't blow out about this time last year). Looks
>>like he's going to be going under the knife again and will have both knees
>>in stifle braces for the rest of his life. Poor guy. He's such a stellar
>>dog
>>and we love him so much. He's so full of life and loves to run and play.
>>That's pretty much over for him now. It's just breaking my heart to see
>>this, but hopefully we can provide him some excellent quality of life
>>during
>>his remaining years.
>>
>>;o(
>>
>I would pay more money for OSX for Mac if Apple gave it an
i-ppendectomy!! No i-crap, no Saffari, no Garage Crap...
Just OS. I know you can remove the stuff, but I don't think
it would be the same.
I keep thinking of those Apple TV commercials... gets me
thinking "wanna get some WORK done, buy a PC!" ;-) (ducking)
David.
ps. YES, we use *both* here.
James McCloskey wrote:
> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>
>>And if you are running an HD rig, the Mac route makes sense. (Of course
>>there is no other option for Logic). I'm curious to see where the next
>>version of Logic goes.
>>
>>I've been wondering if Apple would give it more of a tie in with FCP - more
>>post capabilities. Maybe this time?
>>
>>Imho, Apple is missing a big boat by not letting OSX loose, but I have a
>>feeling it might not play well with 80% of the hardware out there - one
>>reason for a closed system, and of course, profit is higher with a closed
>>platform, so I don't expect it to happen in the next 1425604 years. ;-)
>>
>>Dedric
>
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| Re: Am I being an ***hole here? [message #87630 is a reply to message #87597] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 19:38 |
Bill L
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
|
Senior Member |
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t;>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops (small
>>>>>>>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best as
>>>>>>>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.). No
>>> extra
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> THe verdict:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>>>>>>> Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Still a ways to go.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>>>>>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>>>>>>>> are out there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>>>>>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general
>>>>> purpose
>>>>>>>>>>> "music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty
>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive
>>> or
>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>> over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some of
> the
>>>>>>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know
>>> quite
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of people get irritated by it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not going to go to an Apple group for Apple updates but like
>>> to
>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>> what's going on in Apple land so...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's 100 degrees in the shade here. I think I'm delirious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Man what's up with you today? People post about all kinds of
>>> stuff
>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want to know why he's spamming a Paris group with Apple
>>>>> crap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> what apple forums are for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Not anti Mac at all... nothing wrong with the stuff for
people that want to use it... but why should people have to
have it loaded on their machine if they don't? Same goes
for Windows... I don't want messenger, Exploder, and the
rest of the bloat. I think people should be able to CHOOSE
"at install time" on either platform what they do or do not
want on their system.
I want these machines for work, not play. And as I
mentioned, we use MacPro and well as XP machines at the
office for audio.
David.
James McCloskey wrote:
> We're back to the word "crap". So what is wrong with Safari? GarageBand
> Does not come with OSX per say, but what is wrong with it? "Come on Dave,
> give me a break" I think this is just more anti Mac stuff.
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>I would pay more money for OSX for Mac if Apple gave it an
>>i-ppendectomy!! No i-crap, no Saffari, no Garage Crap...
>>Just OS. I know you can remove the stuff, but I don't think
>>it would be the same.
>>
>>I keep thinking of those Apple TV commercials... gets me
>>thinking "wanna get some WORK done, buy a PC!" ;-) (ducking)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>ps. YES, we use *both* here.
>>
>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>
>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And if you are running an HD rig, the Mac route makes sense. (Of course
>>>>there is no other option for Logic). I'm curious to see where the next
>>>>version of Logic goes.
>>>>
>>>>I've been wondering if Apple would give it more of a tie in with FCP -
>
> more
>
>>>>post capabilities. Maybe this time?
>>>>
>>>>Imho, Apple is missing a big boat by not letting OSX loose, but I have
>
> a
>
>>>>feeling it might not play well with 80% of the hardware out there - one
>>>>reason for a closed system, and of course, profit is higher with a closed
>>>>platform, so I don't expect it to happen in the next 1425604 years. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Dedric
>>>
>>>
>>>I feel like I'm about to pour gas on this thread. Would you be willing
>
> to
>
>>>pay $299.00 for a PC version of OSX if it was unsupported? Would you
>
> buy
>
>>>it if there was no iLife or iWorks for it?
>>>
>>
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| Re: Am I being an ***hole here? [message #87645 is a reply to message #87608] |
Thu, 05 July 2007 22:13 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
|
Senior Member |
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) Accel!! Yikes!! :) witha DM-2000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, since his studio is commercial he has to run all the major DAWs.
>>>> Cubase
>>>>>> 3 is one of them. His DAW computer in Studio A is an G5 (Quad-non
>>>>>> Intel)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I ask him to do me a favor and let me see how Cubase SX3 runs
>> on
>>>> his
>>>>>> Mac. So, for testting we imported various wav files from ProTool sessions.
>>>>>> Around 80 track..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We then activated 5 verbs on the sends.. Activated the on-board Eq(all
>>>> 4
>>>>>> bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
>>>>>> Hit the space bar..
>>>>>> Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the
>> back
>>>>>> round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with
>> ...Pro
>>>>>> Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer
(Intel)
>>>>>> bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
>>>>>> Solid.. Solid Solid..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X
>> and
>>>> the
>>>>>> ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>>>>>>> registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never
>> a
>>>> problem
>>>>>>> with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email,
>>>> Skype,
>>>>>>> etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only stop
>>>> spam
>>>>>>> mail from being sent (not filtered, but shot down at the source via
>> a
>>>> large
>>>>>>> burst of electricity designed to fry any and all spammer computers,
>> Apple
>>>>>>> would really have something.... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know how Nuendo runs on your new Mac though, seriously. You'll
>>>> have
>>>>>>> to wait for N4 to run on the dual core 2 Mac under OSX at least (should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> soon). I would be most interested in a head to head comparison of
>> plugin
>>>>>>> counts in the same project under Nuendo, not just similar projects,
>> but
>>>>>>> identical.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The last report I read comparing XP to OSX for DAW performance was
>> from
>>>>>>> Derek (used to be on this NG) - German Keyboards compared them and
>>>>>>> apparently (I don't read German to confirm) XP won on plugin count
>> and
>>>> low
>>>>>>> latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run
>> on
>>>> the
>>>>>>> same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better
outside
>>>>>>> OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5
(Win)
>>>> and
>>>>>>> Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone OS,
>> I
>>>> would
>>>>>>> buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>>>>>>> bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for
me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont"
>>>>>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to
our
>>>> new
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>>> Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the
>>>>>>>> internet..sorry
>>>>>>>> but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll covert my current dual opteron daw into a dedicated vsti machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LAD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much
>> more
>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in
a
>> pro
>>>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops
(small
>>>>>>>>>> business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best
as
>>>>>>>>>> possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.).
No
>>>> extra
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> software or extended warranties.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> THe verdict:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>>>>>>>> Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still a ways to go.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JH
>>>>>>>>>>> I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>>>>>>>>> Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>>>>>>>>> are out there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>>>>>>>>> & price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy one
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a general
>>>>>> purpose
>>>>>>>>>>>> "music focussed anything goes" kinda group. Apple stuff is pretty
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> topic, but off topic is fine by me so long as it's not offensive
>>>> or
>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>> over the group for weeks on end and annoying people as some
of
>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> politics
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff does. I actually like the political stuff too, but I know
>>>> quite
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>&g
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| Re: Am I being an ***hole here? [message #87680 is a reply to message #87645] |
Fri, 06 July 2007 07:33 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
|
Senior Member |
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ll
>>>>>>
>>>>>>4
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bands). Called up about 20 Ren Comps..
>>>>>>>>Hit the space bar..
>>>>>>>>Ran liek a champ.. No skips hiccups.. Nothing...Mean while...In the
>>>>
>>>>back
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>round. we were surfing the web ...Had about 4 pages open, along with
>>>>
>>>>...Pro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tools (HD) still open with a session..!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I was sold.. Because.. I assumes this machine as was one of newer
(Intel)
>>>>>>>>bases Macs Pros.. Nope..The G5 quad.
>>>>>>>>Solid.. Solid Solid..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don't get me wrong, my AMD Opteron PCs are solid as well, but, OS_X
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ability to run XP as well, is a very powerful tandem to beat..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey Lamont - my rig only goes online to grab updates to audio apps,
>>>>>>>>>registration/response codes (which is getting annoying), but never
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>with that. But even on the net PC that's online all day with email,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Skype,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>etc, never had a virus, spyware, or malware. If OSX would only
stop
>>>>>>
>>>>>>spam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>mail from being sent (not filtered, but shot down at the source
via
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>large
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>burst of electricity designed to fry any and all spammer computers,
>>>>
>>>>Apple
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>would really have something.... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Let me know how Nuendo runs on your new Mac though, seriously.
You'll
>>>>>>
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to wait for N4 to run on the dual core 2 Mac under OSX at least
(should
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>soon). I would be most interested in a head to head comparison
of
>>>>
>>>>plugin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>counts in the same project under Nuendo, not just similar projects,
>>>>
>>>>but
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>identical.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The last report I read comparing XP to OSX for DAW performance was
>>>>
>>>>from
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Derek (used to be on this NG) - German Keyboards compared them and
>>>>>>>>>apparently (I don't read German to confirm) XP won on plugin count
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>low
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>latency by a noticeable margin on the same hardware (even when run
>>>>
>>>>on
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>same system as OSX via Bootcamp). He said even Logic ran better
outside
>>>>>>>>>OSX, but I'm not sure how that comparison was made since Logic 5
(Win)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Logic 7 (OSX) might not be comparable. If OSX was a standalone
OS,
>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>buy it to have both and compare, but the fastest processing, lowest
>>>>>>>>>bloat-factor OS would inevitably be the DAW system of choice for
me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>>Dedric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 8/9/07 8:23 PM, in article 46bbcc3f$1@linux, "lamont" <jjdpro@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I agree..after we complete this cd project i'll be moving on to
our
>>>>>>
>>>>>>new
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mac
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Pro(4 core) running Nuendo, PT and the new Apple Logic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'm really burned out with XP and viruses..with getting on the
>>>>>>>>>>internet..sorry
>>>>>>>>>>but u like being able to go on the internet on my daw.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I'll covert my current dual opteron daw into a dedicated vsti machine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>LAD
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah, but having the stability and security of OS-X is worth much
>>>>
>>>>more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the difference in price between a PC and Mac.... especially in
a
>>>>
>>>>pro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Jusr for fun, I priced out one of the new Dell Vostro laptops
(small
>>>>>>>>>>>>business class)attempting to match the 15"macbook pro as best
as
>>>>>>>>>>>>possible (proc, ram, and HD size and speed, screen res, etc.).
>>
>> No
>>
>>>>>>extra
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>software or extended warranties.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>THe verdict:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Dell Vostro 15" $1443
>>>>>>>>>>>>Macbook Pro 15" $2074
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Still a ways to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>JH
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would agree... i'm not a "Mac guy", per se' but I've used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Macs & they're fine, and it's nice to know what other options
>>>>>>>>>>>>>are out there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I look at it this way - someday they'll get their shit together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>& price things accordingly to make it worth my while to buy
one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now, if only Ferrari would do the same :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hehe, yes I've got to agree with Chuck. It's pretty much a
general
>>
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