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SD2s still a no go here into Paris. Wavelab issues too. [message #63690] Mon, 23 January 2006 19:08 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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(859) 635-5762Hi all,

Haven't been around here much in the last year or so.
Glad to see that the Paris community is still alive and well.

Anyway, there's a guy on American Idol this year that I used
to work with quite a bit. His name is Taylor Hicks. If you haven't
seen it he's the grey haired guy. He's a very soulful singer with not
an ounce of pretense. Check out his version of "Georgia on my Mind"
at this link. It's a live recording. Don't know who the engineer was.
http://taylorhicks2006.com/music.html#

He also plays a mean blues harp.

peace,
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LaMont,
I'm glad it was that easy!
Tom
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message =
news:4405b024@linux...
HI Lamont,
Wow weird stuff. Glad its working now.

Chris


LaMont wrote:
> Tom & Chris,
>=20
> I got it solved. It was the Magma Chasis's power supply was not =
"seated"
> into slot properly. Paris is working fine now.
> Thanks
>=20
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
>>
>>LM,
>>Can't wait to hear.
>>T.
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message =3D
>>news:44052522@linux...
>>
>> HEY Tom,
>> I'm in the Prcess of moving th magma card to differnt slots..I'll =
let
>=20
> =3D
>=20
>>you
>> know what happens..
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >LaMont,
>> >EDS1 with Matrox is a bad thing. I'd try different slots within
>> >the Magma to correct that. Have you tried any other slots on
>> >the mobo for the Magma card? That might be the first thing unless
>> >you know that won't help.
>> >Tom
>> > "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message =3D3D
>> >news:4404e5bf$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Hi Chris,
>> > Fresh install of win Xp/sp1. New drives, new everything. I'm =
using
>=20
> =3D
>=20
>>=3D3D
>> >Apci,
>> > not Standard PC. Mother Board GA-K8NSC-939
>&
Re: SD2s still a no go here into Paris. Wavelab issues too. [message #63697 is a reply to message #63690] Mon, 23 January 2006 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> > -939?<BR>><BR>>When you say you rebuilt do you mean you =3D3D
>> >reinstalled=3D3D20
>> > windows from scratch?<BR>><BR>><BR>>LaMont wrote:<BR>>> =3D3D
>> >Hi=3D3D20
>> > gang:<BR>>> I 'm having problems getting Paris to ip and =3D3D
>> >running. Paris=3D3D20
>> > will sometimes<BR>>> star, only to just freeze up and crash the =
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>> > was cause too much IRQ problems for<BR>>> PAris.<BR>>>=3D3D20
>> > <BR>>> So, I rebuilt with my favorite stable =3D3D
>> >mobo(Gigabyte).<BR>>>=3D3D20
>> > <BR>>> Here's the skinny: I just build a new Paris/Nuendo PC. =
=3D3D
>> >Great very=3D3D20
>> > very<BR>fast:<BR>>> Here are the configs:<BR>>> =3D3D
>> ><BR>>>=3D3D20
>> > -gigabyte mobo 939 Ultra250<BR>>> -Dual core opteron =3D3D
>> >165<BR>>>=3D3D20
>> > -2gig ddr400<BR>>> -sata (onboard) 3 300 gig drives<BR>>> =3D3D
>> >-(1) RME=3D3D20
>> > Digi 96 <BR>>> -(1)Magma card (4 card EDS) <BR>>> -Matrox=3D3D20
>> > g450<BR>>> <BR>>> Well, Nuendo runs like a Deer!!! WOW.. =3D3D
>> >But PAris=3D3D20
>> > is hit and miss. I disabled:<BR>>> USB, SATA raid..A little =
=3D3D
>> >better, but=3D3D20
>> > I', starting to think that My either<BR>>> my EdS cards or =3D3D
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Re: SD2s still a no go here into Paris. Wavelab issues too. [message #63704 is a reply to message #63690] Tue, 24 January 2006 02:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: SD2s still a no go here into Paris. Wavelab issues too. [message #63711 is a reply to message #63690] Tue, 24 January 2006 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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&gt;&gt;LM,<BR>&gt;&gt;Can't wait to=20
hear.<BR>&gt;&gt;T.<BR>&gt;&gt; "LaMont" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net">jjdpro@ameritech.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message =3D<BR>&gt;&gt;news:44052522@linux...<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
HEY=20
Tom,<BR>&gt;&gt; I'm in the Prcess of moving th magma card to differnt =

slots..I'll let<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =3D<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt;you<BR>&gt;&gt; know=20
what happens..<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;LaMont,<BR>&gt;&gt;=20
&gt;EDS1 with Matrox is a bad thing.&nbsp; I'd try different slots=20
within<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;the Magma to correct that.&nbsp; Have you tried =
any=20
other slots on<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;the mobo for the Magma card?&nbsp; That =
might=20
be the first thing unless<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;you know that won't=20
help.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;Tom<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; "LaMont" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:jjdpro
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D<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;Apci,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; not =
Standard PC.=20
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&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ahris Ludwig &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;HI Lamont,<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; =
&gt;Sorry=20
to here your having trouble.<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;What exact =
model of=20
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&gt;When=20
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<BR>&gt;=20
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&gt;&gt; I 'm having problems getting Paris to ip and running. Paris=20
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&gt;sometimes<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; &gt;&gt; star, only to just =
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Re: SD2s still a no go here into Paris. Wavelab issues too. [message #63719 is a reply to message #63711] Tue, 24 January 2006 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Re: SD2s still a no go here into Paris. Wavelab issues too. [message #63736 is a reply to message #63711] Tue, 24 January 2006 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Re: SD2s still a no go here into Paris. Wavelab issues too. [message #63764 is a reply to message #63736] Wed, 25 January 2006 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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/> >>> =
>>>
>>>> I'm
>>>> =3D
>>>>> using=3D20
>>>>> Apci,<BR>not Standard PC. Mother Board GA-K8NSC-939<BR>nforce-3 =
>>>> ultra=3D20
>>>>> 250gb.<BR><BR>-Maybe moving the magma(13 slot) to a differnt =3D
>>>>> slot.(It's=3D20
>>>>> currently residing<BR>in PCI slot 4. According to the manual, slot
>>> =
>>>
>>>> 4 =3D
>>>>> and 2 are=3D20
>>>>> not shared. Plus<BR>even with the Sata controllers activated, each
>>> =
>>>
>>>> of
>>>> =3D
>>>>> the=3D20
>>>>> (4)eds cards had their<BR>own IRQ. However, 1 EDS card shared (IRQ
>>> =
>>>
>>>> 16)
>>>> =3D
>>>>> with=3D20
>>>>> the Matrox G450. Strange..<BR><BR>I've been looking into this PCI =
>>>> =3D
>>>>> latency=3D20
>>>>> issues and download an app to look<BR>and change soem of the PCI =
>>>> =3D
>>>>> latency=3D20
>>>>> settings. <BR><BR>The Sata controller had a setting of 0(zero). EDS
>>> =
>>>
>>>> =3D
>>>>> scherzo=3D20
>>>>> (32) matrox (64)..IDE<BR>controller (0)..<BR><BR>Thanks for your =
>>>> help=3D20
>>>>> ..LaMont<BR><BR><BR><BR> Ahris Ludwig <<A=3D20
>>>>> =
>>> href=3D3D"mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com">chrisl@adkproaudio.com</A>>=3D20=
>>>>> wrote:<BR>>HI Lamont,<BR>>Sorry to here your having =3D
>>>>> trouble.<BR>>What=3D20
>>>>> exact model of the Gigabyte board do you mean. The description=3D20
>>>>> you<BR><BR>>have here is vague. Is it a K8NS Ultra=3D20
>>>>> -939?<BR>><BR>>When you say you rebuilt do you mean you =3D
>>>>> reinstalled=3D20
>>>>> windows from scratch?<BR>><BR>><BR>>LaMont wrote:<BR>>> =3D
>>>>> Hi=3D20
>>>>> gang:<BR>>> I 'm having problems getting Paris to ip and =3D
>>>>> running. Paris=3D20
>>>>> will sometimes<BR>>> star, only to just freeze up and crash the =3D
>>>>> whole=3D20
>>>>> system. So, I thought<BR>my<BR>>> Asus-Amd XP combo(with =3D
>>>>> SATA-Firwire)=3D20
>>>>> was cause too much IRQ problems for<BR>>> PAris.<BR>>>=3D20
>>>>> <BR>>> So, I rebuilt with my favorite stable =3D
>>>>> mobo(Gigabyte).<BR>>>=3D20
>>>>> <BR>>> Here's the skinny: I just build a new Paris/Nuendo PC. =3D
>>>>> Great very=3D20
>>>>> v
Re: SD2s still a no go here into Paris. Wavelab issues too. [message #63809 is a reply to message #63764] Thu, 26 January 2006 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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> >
> Regards,
>
> Deej
>Great points James..

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>FYI, there is a reasonably priced insurance policy called catastrophic health
>insurance. This insurance policy covers any cost over 10K. The idea
is
>that if you were seriously injured or ill and you had a huge hospital bill
>it would cover every thing over 10K. Now that the fat cats in Washington
>have taken away Chapter 7 bankruptcy from we the people, a huge hospital
>bill could wipe your family out. with catastrophic health insurance, you
>could recover financially from a 10K hospital bill. Catastrophic health
>would be better than no health insurance at all.
>
>James
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@amertitech.net> wrote:
>>
>>That's funny :)
>>
>>But, the reality is thatbig corporations like Walmart and others are not
>>providing heath insurance to it's employees. I'm and independent Consultant,
>>and I pay for my familys heath insurance and it's not cheap. It's really
>>draining the budget. i really don't know how long we can keep this up.
Thank
>>God no one in the family has been sick or been in a bad accident.
>>
>>As well as, I really don't understand people in this country who don't
think
>>the citizens of this country need a National heath care plan(Aka Free!!)
>>
>>
>>This sick game btw the pharmacuticals and the Heathcare providers and the
>>healthinsurance companies who are using "We the people" as pawns for their
>>greed and posturing. This can't go on any longer. Too many hard-working
>well
>>meaning Americans are suffering without healthcare coverage.
>>
>>On one hand I can understand companies in my neck on the woods ( Motown)
>>GM, Ford Chrysler who have for decades provided Top Tier health care for
>>it's employees and retires. No deductibles, no co pays..Nada ..But the
Big
>>3's generosity has been the exception and not the rule of "So-Caled" Fortune
>>500 companies. Who have for years demanded that employees "payout" big
sums
>>of their income to (Aka: Pay for)pay for healthcare. So, with the Big-3
>coming
>>out stating that it can no longer provide Top Tier Health care any longer,
>>they are not just "Blowing-Smoke". They are speaking the truth!!..
>>
>>So, what do we do. Do we continue to play the "rich" Republican game of
>>stuffing the pockets of Big Bussinees insurance companies? Who,btw(heathinsureance
>>companies)swear that they are being fleeced by both the Pharacuticals and
>>the Hospitals. Thy, the health insurance industry for years have been victims
>>of massive fraud from both small local clinics all the way to your largest
>>hospitals. Pharmacuticals compnies charge hositals 5 times the amount for
>>a single pill!! Who then pass that cost of a single pill to you and I.

>>It's maddness of epic porportions. It's got to end.
>>Most americans are only all castastrophe away from wiping out a families
>>assett's.
>>
>>Yes, my southeren neighbor Canada had a rough start with it's National
Heathcare
>>system as well as Euroup, but both have never "Re-tracked" the systems
and
>>both have smoothed out. Is it perfect? No, but is better than the mess
we
>>have now??
>>
>>So, I wish poor working stiffs stop championing the "Rich" societies causes.
>>Who's anti heath care rhectoric has been: 'Do you want your goverment"
involved
>>with healthcare?" Then chuckle(no no)..
>>In case you missed it, the so-calld middle class is shrinking daily,a nd
>>the divide btw rich and others(poor) is the wideset it's ever been in the
>>history of our nation. We are being "FLEECED" for the Rich and their coffers.
>>Gas prices, home heating, electricity. All time highs. Even more, the rich
>>do'nt care.
>>
>>There was a time in America where by if you were rich and owned a company
>>or corporation you felt and obligation to the common working man and woman.
>>Now, you got boards in New-York calling the shots. Who's only mission is
>>to "Return To Share Holder Value". Well, theirs nothing wrong with RTSV.
>>It's what free market is all about. it's very American. However, how much
>>"Return is Enough"?? At what cost to the working stiffs is this affecting
>>their "Quality of Life"?
>>
>>Greed is alive and kicking in America. Like the Character in "Wall-Street"
>>Gordon Geko: Greed is Good.. However, today their is Too-Much Greed.. And
>>it's not Good.
>>LaMont
>>
>>"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>A man owned a recording studio in Texas. The Texas Wage & Hour Dept. claimed
>>>he was not paying proper wages to his help. They sent an agent out to
interview
>>>& investigate the accusations.
>>>Upon arrival at the studio the agents demanded, "We need a list of your
>>employees
>>>and how much you pay them,"
>>>The studio owner replied, "There's my main engineer who's been with me
>for
>>>3 years. I pay him $800 a week plus benefits."
>>>The studio manager has been here for 18 months, "I pay her $500 per week
>>>plus benefits".
>>>Then there's the half-wit who works here about 18 hours every day and
does
>>>about 90% of all the work around here. He makes $10 per week, and I buy
>>him
>>>a bottle of bourbon every Saturday night."
>>>"That's the guy I want to talk to - the half-wit," says the agent.
>>>"That would be me," replied the studio owner…
>>>
>>
>My *better half* back in the 70's was a native American lady from Simcoe
Ontario. I was amazed at many of the the social programs available to
Canadians back then. I met he when I was living in Mexico. There was big
Canadian community there and they were all actually was having checks sent
down there from Canada and lived there all winter on some kind of government
subsidized unemployment. In the spring, we would all head back to Texas and
they would all sort their travel arrangements out and head for their various
spring/summer jobs. Then in the fall, they would come back down to Austin
and we would head back down to Oaxaca. I was always jealous of this
situation. Everything was paid for.

As for the healthcare situation, I was watcfhing some expose' on socialized
medice in Britain a while back and there is actually a provision for free
elective cosmetic plastic surgery. If that's the case in Canada, I'm going
to move up there so I can get that operation I've been needing so I can look
more like Jessica Simpson.

;o)

"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44073bbe@linux...
> While the Canadian system of health care is far from perfect, I feel
> very fortunate indeed to be living here... especially when I read
> stuff like this. The upside to the US system is that if you need an
> MRI, you go down to the local clinic and get one... here the wait can
> be months.
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Having had more than my share of experience with hospitals and the
> > healthcare system in the last few years, I can guarantee you that the
> > hospitals are charging higher rates to the insurance companies than they
> > charge to individuals who are not covered by insurance, or whose
policies
> > don't cover the procedures. I'm getting ready to have to pay around $10k
in
> > fees to the Mayo clinic that my insurance company won't pay because they
are
> > considered to be over and above what the insurance company considers to
be
> > *reasonable*. However, had I had no insurance, I wouldn't have been able
to
> > even walk through the doors of the Mayo Clinic. I'm paying over $1000.00
per
> > month for health insurance for just my wife and me right now. I could
raise
> > the deductible and lower the premium, but considering the problems we've
> > been dealing with here, the numbers really don't work to do that. I can
> > certainly relate to your frustration and I'm sure you are worried about
the
> > care for your kids. It's a tough one. I'm definitely in favior of some
kind
> > of reform but I'm not sure that *free health care* will at all translate
to
> > *quality healthcare*. Mediocre-to-crappy healthcare might be quite a bit
> > worse than high premiums if one of your family members happens to be a
> > victim of it (though I really haven't been that impressed with some of
the
> > *expensive* healthcare we've gotten lately).
> >
> > You do make some good points, IMO.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Deej
> >“Currently, Americans pay 5 to 10 times as much for their prescription drugs
than do citizens in Canada, Germany and many other industrialized parts of
the world,” stated Congressman Burton. “For instance, women who are suffering
from breast cancer and are taking Tomoxifen to save their lives pay $134
for a 30-day supply in my home state of Indiana and up to $360 in other parts
of the United States, while in Germany they pay just $60, and in Canada they
pay only $33 for the very same product. Not only is that outrageous, it
is just plain wrong. I have held four hearing in my capacity as Chairman
of the House Government Reform Subcommittee on Human Rights and Wellness
regarding the safety and efficacy of imported pharmaceuticals. Despite clinging
to claims of the dangers of counterfeit and misbranded drugs, the pharmaceutical
industry as well as the FDA have been unable to cite a single incident of
adverse health reactions caused by Canadian imported FDA-approved prescription
drugs.” “

This is a good read from:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/mo08_emerson/pr_031028. html

This is from legislation proposed in 2003. Naturally, this legislation and
the two dozen other attempts to reign in profits, unfair trade policies and
tax breaks for pharmaceuticals have all failed.

From the same Press Release:
“We also spend tens of millions in tax dollars every year on research and
development of prescription drugs - for which we get little reimbursement
from pharmaceutical companies. The pharmaceutical companies get a dollar-for-dollar
tax credit. The pharmaceutical companies get a protected American market
that shuts out competition and keeps prices artificially high. What do American
seniors get? A very raw deal, and that’s about all.”

gene




"LaMont" <jjdpro@amertitech.net> wrote:
>
>That's funny :)
>
>But, the reality is thatbig corporations like Walmart and others are not
>providing heath insurance to it's employees. I'm and independent Consultant,
>and I pay for my familys heath insurance and it's not cheap. It's really
>draining the budget. i really don't know how long we can keep this up. Thank
>God no one in the family has been sick or been in a bad accident.
>
>As well as, I really don't understand people in this country who don't think
>the citizens of this country need a National heath care plan(Aka Free!!)
>
>
>This sick game btw the pharmacuticals and the Heathcare providers and the
>healthinsurance companies who are using "We the people" as pawns for their
>greed and posturing. This can't go on any longer. Too many hard-working
well
>meaning Americans are suffering without healthcare coverage.
>
>On one hand I can understand companies in my neck on the woods ( Motown)
>GM, Ford Chrysler who have for decades provided Top Tier health care for
>it's employees and retires. No deductibles, no co pays..Nada ..But the Big
>3's generosity has been the exception and not the rule of "So-Caled" Fortune
>500 companies. Who have for years de
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If you work hard, keep you nose clean, you can
live the dream. Well mr gazillionar corprarion, we worked hard, some of us
got the education, and paid our taxes even when you never paid a sigle cent
of tax. But, here we are being asked to continue to line up you coffers
while you give us NOTHING$$$ in return..

Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>So true. If nothing else, we've cornered the market for greed.
>
>We're self-employed to, and have either paid more than we could afford,
had
>less coverage than we could afford should something happen, or gone without
>for most of the past ten years. I pray everyday nothing happens or we'll
be
>done in a heartbeat.
>
>I guess that's the new American reality - living one step away from
>financial catastrophe. Corporations have forgotten who they serve - people
>- and so has much of our country. Pharmaceutical companies aren't
>struggling, oil companies post record profits even when a hurricane hits
a
>home run in their backyard (that's what I call serious insurance), "reality"
>TV is booming, and more people have to give up health care and go into debt.
>Webster doesn't need to define the word irony any more.
>
>The American dream may eventually become an American tragedy.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 3/2/06 10:18 AM, in article 44071ae9$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjdpro@amertitech.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> That's funny :)
>>
>> But, the reality is thatbig corporations like Walmart and others are not
>> providing heath insurance to it's employees. I'm and independent Consultant,
>> and I pay for my familys heath insurance and it's not cheap. It's really
>> draining the budget. i really don't know how long we can keep this up.
Thank
>> God no one in the family has been sick or been in a bad accident.
>>
>> As well as, I really don't understand people in this country who don't
think
>> the citizens of this country need a National heath care plan(Aka Free!!)
>>
>>
>> This sick game btw the pharmacuticals and the Heathcare providers and
the
>> healthinsurance companies who are using "We the people" as pawns for their
>> greed and posturing. This can't go on any longer. Too many hard-working
well
>> meaning Americans are suffering without healthcare coverage.
>>
>> On one hand I can understand companies in my neck on the woods ( Motown)
>> GM, Ford Chrysler who have for decades provided Top Tier health care for
>> it's employees and retires. No deductibles, no co pays..Nada ..But the
Big
>> 3's generosity has been the exception and not the rule of "So-Caled" Fortune
>> 500 companies. Who have for years demanded that employees "payout" big
sums
>> of their income to (Aka: Pay for)pay for healthcare. So, with the Big-3
coming
>> out stating that it can no longer provide Top Tier Health care any longer,
>> they are not just "Blowing-Smoke". They are speaking the truth!!..
>>
>> So, what do we do. Do we continue to play the "rich" Republican game
of
>> stuffing the pockets of Big Bussinees insurance companies?
>> Who,btw(heathinsureance
>> companies)swear that they are being fleeced by both the Pharacuticals
and
>> the Hospitals. Thy, the health insurance industry for years have been
victims
>> of massive fraud from both small local clinics all the way to your largest
>> hospitals. Pharmacuticals compnies charge hositals 5 times the amount
for
>> a single pill!! Who then pass that cost of a single pill to you and I.
>> It's maddness of epic porportions. It's got to end.
>> Most americans are only all castastrophe away from wiping out a families
>> assett's.
>>
>> Yes, my southeren neighbor Canada had a rough start with it's National
>> Heathcare
>> system as well as Euroup, but both have never "Re-tracked" the systems
and
>> both have smoothed out. Is it perfect? No, but is better than the mess
we
>> have now??
>>
>> So, I wish poor working stiffs stop championing the "Rich" societies causes.
>> Who's anti heath care rhectoric has been: 'Do you want your goverment"
>> involved
>> with health
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