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| Re: What's this thing that smoldered in my Presonus M80 power supply? [message #82808 is a reply to message #82803] |
Sat, 07 April 2007 11:05   |
Edna Sloan
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ly drove the wrong way down a freeway once.
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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C790A3.CFABCBC0--Thanks to Deej and AAron for dreaming up this vacation.
It was beyond swell to meet new faces DJ, AAron, Dedric and to have
lunch with all and JamieK, John Macy, and Rohde too!
Hot Damn, I mean next time I'll order medium Thai Fried Rice.
El Miguel
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:463f588f@linux...
>I always wonder what people will be like when I have been talking to them
>on the net and then I am finally going to meet them. These thoughts were
>sorta' in the back of my mind as I was driving up there Thursday. As it
>turned out, I don't think I could have imagined a better bunch of folks. It
>was great hanging out with you guys. What a cool group of creative
>individuals we have here.
>
> Thanks for the great time and hospitality....and for putting up with
> me.......I only drove the wrong way down a freeway once.
>
> ;o)
>Huh ??
>
> Yes, so did I. :D
>
>HI DC,
Actually yes that way the virus can eradicate itself with out all the
extra work.
Chris
DC wrote:
> Read this
>
> http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2007/20070506180903 .aspx
>
> then this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Six-Tom-Clancy/dp/0425170349
>
> And you shall understand...
>
> DC
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comChris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI DC,
>
>Actually yes that way the virus can eradicate itself with out all the
>extra work.
>
>Chris
Sooo, you agree that humanity is a virus?
DCQuestion for anyone been down this path, what's the
best way to do a paris 3.0 install for XP, how is the
best way to deal with the driver and authorization for
XP. Where can I find good Paris XP drivers?
Thanks for the help, JohnnyDo you know of any third party manuals for the Motif? I have an older one,
I think. It's a Motif 6. I downloaded the Yamaha manual and, as you said,
it's pretty opaque.
Gantt
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Oh yes it does, I agree. It's the only workstation I would even think about
>having in my studio.
>
>TCB
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>But it does sound SO good!
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Ah yes, the glories of Yamaha synth operating systems and documentation.
>>I
>>>reviewed the Motif when it first came out. Rarely has such a powerful
and
>>>fantastic sounding instrument been so brutally neutered by its interface
>>>designers. And the manuals, I really, honestly wonder if they were translated
>>>from Japanese into Hungarian, then Hungarian to French, and then into
English
>>>by a mildly retarded 10 year old.
>>>
>>>Good luck, you'll like your soft synths even more after using your Motif
>>>for a while.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I just got a Motif 6 and I can't figure out how to make function as a
>multi-timbral
>>>>MIDI sound source w/ an external sequencer (Digital Performer). Does
>anyone
>>>>have experience w/ the Motif or maybe know of a user group? The manual
>>>is
>>>>inconclusive. Google hasn't found anythiing useful yet.
>>>>
>>>>HELP!
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>gantt
>>>
>>
>Dunno, I'd try the forums at motifator. That's probably your best bet.
TCB
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Do you know of any third party manuals for the Motif? I have an older one,
>I think. It's a Motif 6. I downloaded the Yamaha manual and, as you said,
>it's pretty opaque.
>
>Gantt
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com<
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Sat, 07 April 2007 11:44 |
chuck duffy
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perfect right to have a gun. He can use it to defend him self against
the human race. With Americas justice system it should hold up just fine
when he says he defended himself because he felt "imminent threat" to
his person and property. Well at least it will if he is from a pro gun
state.
Chris
DC wrote:
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> HI DC,
>>
>> Actually yes that way the virus can eradicate itself with out all the
>> extra work.
>>
>> Chris
>
>
> Sooo, you agree that humanity is a virus?
>
>
> DC
>
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Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comWell...I personally think that dropping the population below 1 billion would
be a good thing as long as that 1 billion included me and my crew. I figure
that's gonna happen without my help sooner or later. Ever watch what happens
when rats (or other) species get too overcrowded? Ugly stuff to be sure.
A nice little pandemic would be much more PC.
At least this guy could think for himself though and stop copping this
reasoning from The Matrix.
;o)
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:463f6e43$1@linux...
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> Read this
>
> http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2007/20070506180903 .aspx
>
> then this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Six-Tom-Clancy/dp/0425170349
>
> And you shall understand...
>
> DC
>As George Carlin once said, human beings are the only species in the world
that systematically tortures and kills its own kind.
TCB
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote:
>
>Read this
>
> http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2007/20070506180903 .aspx
>
>then this:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Six-Tom-Clancy/dp/0425170349
>
>And you shall understand...
>
>DC
>...Brainiacs Daughter? I'm trying to find some of their music to listen to
or buy, but no luck!
GanttIt was great meeting everyone as well! Thanks for making the trip DJ and
Aaron!
Hope we can do it again sometime.
Regards,
Dedric
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:463f588f@linux...
>I always wonder what people will be like when I have been talking to them
>on the net and then I am finally going to meet them. These thoughts were
>sorta' in the back of my mind as I was driving up there Thursday. As it
>turned out, I don't think I could have imagined a better bunch of folks. It
>was great hanging out with you guys. What a cool group of creative
>individuals we have here.
>
> Thanks for the great time and hospitality....and for putting up with
> me.......I only drove the wrong way down a freeway once.
>
> ;o)
>Ya' know....I had never heard of this group until now. I just went to the
Sea Shepherd website. I can't really see a damn thing there that I disagree
with. Their founder may be a bit over the top, but I can understand his
anger and frustration and I figure he and I are about as eye-to-eye as two
individuals could get on lots of things. They are $100.00 richer right now
thanks to PayPal. If I had $10k + to donate, I would.
Deej
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:463f6e43$1@linux...
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> Read this
>
> http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2007/20070506180903 .aspx
>
> then this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Six-Tom-Clancy/dp/0425170349
>
> And you shall understand...
>
> DC
>I don't know it as a band, its the title of a song on the Dukes of the Stratosphere
albumn from when I was back in college. That was an alias for XTC, it was
one of their little side projects.
Chuck
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>..Brainiacs Daughter? I'm trying to find some of their music to listen
to
>or buy, but no luck!
>
>GanttSorry, I forget who does these - I know there's a couple of you
guys that do.
I need to find out what's the quickest you could turn around
100, including a simple jacket print of some kind, and a price.
Shrink-Wrapping optional - UPC codes not needed in this case.
It'd be a 3-song EP. Prolly 15-ish minutes in length.
A band decided they'd like to record, mix, & replicate for a big
festival they're playing on the 30th. Nothing like a well-
planned & methodically-executed project, eh?<
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Sat, 07 April 2007 12:05 |
Nil
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f@linux..." target="_blank">463f588f@linux...
>>I always wonder what people will be like when I have been talking to them
>>on the net and then I am finally going to meet them. These thoughts were
>>sorta' in the back of my mind as I was driving up there Thursday. As it
>>turned out, I don't think I could have imagined a better bunch of folks.
It
>>was great hanging out with you guys. What a cool group of creative
>>individuals we have here.
>>
>> Thanks for the great time and hospitality....and for putting up with
>> me.......I only drove the wrong way down a freeway once.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>
>The sax playing Johnny Reno???
:)
"Johnny Reno" <johnnyrenopro@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Question for anyone been down this path, what's the
>best way to do a paris 3.0 install for XP, how is the
>best way to deal with the driver and authorization for
>XP. Where can I find good Paris XP drivers?
>Thanks for the help, Johnny
>
>After all these years of talking to people here, I only know what
maybe one or two of you look like.
I want visuals.
So, if everyone will email me a recent photo of yourself to pbraun at
ctgonline dot org, I will assemble a gallery of the Paris Family and
post it on my server for all to see.
Sound like a deal?
Thought so.
do it.
pab.."TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:463f982d$1@linux...
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> As George Carlin once said, human beings are the only species in the world
> that systematically tortures and kills its own kind.
>
> TCB
........and we are the only species who volunteer for it as well...I mean,
there are actually people out there who want to be president, or to be on
American Idol...........and there are lots of folks who are suicidally
emotionally invested in both.
;oPI hate my Motif. Interface sucks. Sounds are very good.Hey yeah that's me, been using Paris for several years,
can't give it up it sounds too good, you can hear it on
the soundtracks to "Spy Kids", "Sin City", and "Grindhouse",
any pointers on making an XP install work well, thanks Johnny."Miguel Vigil" pam.com> wrote:
>Hot Damn, I mean next time I'll order medium Thai Fried Rice.
El, don't you know that's all one word?
"Taiflylice!"
:DOk, so you think the guy is a fool, but you don't think anyone
should have the right to defend themselves against misanthropic
lunatics.
Well everyone gets an opinion...
DC
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI DC,
>
>No I believe humans do not need any help or encouragement when it comes
>to self destruction.
>I think the Paul Watson is as has delusional as they come but has the
>perfect right to have a gun. He can use it to defend him self against
>the human race. With Americas justice system it should hold up just fine
>when he says he defended himself because he felt "imminent threat" to
>his person and property. Well at least it will if he is from a pro gun
>state.
>
>Chris
>
>
>DC wrote:
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>> HI DC,
>>>
>>> Actually yes that way the virus can eradicate itself with out all the
>>> extra work.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Sooo, you agree that humanity is a virus?
>>
>>
>> DC
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com"Johnny Reno" <johnnyrenopro@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Hey yeah that's me, been using Paris for several years,
>can't give it up it sounds too good, you can hear it on
>the soundtracks to "Spy Kids", "Sin City", and "Grindhouse",
>any pointers on making an XP install work well, thanks Johnny.
There's a thread on this like 3 or 4 pages down from here. I
wish I could like to it, but if you page down a bit you should
find it.
NeilDone.
Cheers,
Kim.
Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>After all these years of talking to people here, I only know what
>maybe one or two of you look like.
>
>I want visuals.
>
>So, if everyone will email me a recent photo of yourself to pbraun at
>ctgonline dot org, I will assemble a gallery of the Paris Family and
>post it on my server for all to see.
>
>Sound like a deal?
>
>Thought so.
>
>do it.
>
>pabJamie and the rest of you Parisites, here's another view regarding the
global warming polemic, ideology, religion and orthodoxy. These scientists
were involved with the IPCC's report, but dissociated themselves with the
same report when blatant omissions and mistruths were put forth by the IPCC.
They scientifically disprove that CO2 is the cause for temperature change.
Before you all jump out of your skin and shout, "2500 top scientists are on
the IPCC panel and therefore it can't be wrong", you really should watch
this with an open mind. You will, if you have an shred of rational, logical
reasoning, question the present hysteria over the global warming debate.
http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/great_global_warming_swindle .htm
Just keeping it real,
Rich
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:463f4b03$1@linux...
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Rich Lamanna
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replaces the embattled Jacques Chirac, a relic from an
> > earlier
> > age of French politics, who made anti-Americanism his hallmark.
> >
> > Sarkozy campaigned on a platform of sweeping reforms, pledging to
> > dismantle
> > large portions of the social welfare state and to make France
competitive
> > on
> > world markets again.
> >
> > You can read the rest here:
> >
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/6/150434.sht ml?s=al&promo_code=3392-1
> >
> > Carry on,
> > Rich
> >
> >
>
>He's right and so is Czech President Vaclav Klaus who has warned that
environmentalism and the orthodoxy of global warming are a threat to human
freedom, "the biggest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and
prosperity at the beginning of the 21st century is not communism or its
various softer variants. Communism was replaced by the threat of ambitious
environmentalism."
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=37133
Rich
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:463f3746$1@linux...
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> Sarkozy on global warming:
>
> "a great nation like the United States has the duty not to oppose the
> fight against global warming, but to lead that battle, because what is
> at stake is the destiny of mankind."
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Rich Lamanna wrote:
> > France Elects a Thatcherite President
> > Kenneth R. Timmerman
> > Monday, May 7, 2007
> > Newsmax.com
> >
> > On Sunday France elected a pro-American, conservative named Nicolas
Sarkozy
> > as its new president.
> >
> > The 52-year-old who beat back by 10 percentage points his Socialist
rival,
> > promises an unabashed Thatcherite agenda for France.
> >
> > Sarkozy also replaces the embattled Jacques Chirac, a relic from an
earlier
> > age of French politics, who made anti-Americanism his hallmark.
> >
> > Sarkozy campaigned on a platform of sweeping reforms, pledging to
dismantle
> > large portions of the social welfare state and to make France
competitive on
> > world markets again.
> >
> > You can read the rest here:
> >
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/6/150434.sht ml?s=al&promo_code=3392-1
> >
> > Carry on,
> > Rich
> >
> >Pab, great idea man. The idea of posting pics of ourselves on the net has
crossed my mind often, but just never got around to mentioning it. I'm
sending one now.
Rich
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:r0cv335e4krti4g5gtionisag77rb68t2f@4ax.com...
> After all these years of talking to people here, I only know what
> maybe one or two of you look like.
>
> I want visuals.
>
> So, if everyone will email me a recent photo of yourself to pbraun at
> ctgonline dot org, I will assemble a gallery of the Paris Family and
> post it on my server for all to see.
>
> Sound like a deal?
>
> Thought so.
>
> do it.
>
> pabJohnny Reno wrote:
> Hey yeah that's me, been using Paris for several years,
> can't give it up it sounds too good, you can hear it on
> the soundtracks to "Spy Kids", "Sin City", and "Grindhouse",
> any pointers on making an XP install work well, thanks Johnny.
>
>
What version of Paris are you planning to use?
HoovActually try this:
http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
:-)
Hoov
Jeff Hoover wrote:
> Johnny Reno wrote:
>
>> Hey yeah that's me, been using Paris for several years,
>> can't give it up it sounds too good, you can hear it on
>> the soundtracks to "Spy Kids", "Sin City", and "Grindhouse",
>> any pointers on making an XP install work well, thanks Johnny.
>>
>>
> What version of Paris are you planning to use?
>
> HoovWish I could have been there man, but I'm all the way out here in NY and
couldn't get away from obligations. Maybe we can do one on the east coast
some day, preferably in the winter in FL where we can go fishing.
Rich
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:463f588f@linux...
> I always wonder what people will be like when I have been talking to them
on
> the net and then I am finally going to meet them. These thoughts were
sorta'
> in the back of my mind as I was driving up there Thursday. As it turned
out,
> I don't think I could have imagined a better bunch of folks. It was great
> hanging out with you guys. What a cool group of creative individuals we
have
> here.
>
> Thanks for the great time and hospitality....and for putting up with
> me.......I only drove the wrong way down a freeway once.
>
> ;o)
>
>Who the hell put this guy in charge? That's such a romantic, fanciful and
insane view. If they're coming for me, I'm ready. Damn, I wish I had the
bread for that Semmerling LM-4, I guess I'll have to settle for the Colt
Defender or the SPRINGFIELD 1911A1 GI MICRO 45ACP.
Rich
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.org> wrote in message news:463f6e43$1@linux...
>
> Read this
>
> http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2007/20070506180903 .aspx
>
> then this:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Rainbow-Six-Tom-Clancy/dp/0425170349
>
> And you shall understand...
>
> DC
>The band took their name from that song. Apparently they broke up in 2000
just before launching a national tour. The woman who sang and played keys
is looking for an engineer/producer to work with (in other words -
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Rich Lamanna
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a spec
production deal) and I'm intrigued. I'd like to track down a copy of the
band's CD "Behave" but it's out of print.
Gantt
"chuck " <c@c.com> wrote:
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>I don't know it as a band, its the title of a song on the Dukes of the Stratosphere
>albumn from when I was back in college. That was an alias for XTC, it was
>one of their little side projects.
>
>Chuck
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>..Brainiacs Daughter? I'm trying to find some of their music to listen
>to
>>or buy, but no luck!
>>
>>Gantt
>HI DC,
Everyone should have the right to defend them selves against anyone they
think are lunatics. I should be able to shoot to maim or kill anyone
that I feel are a physical threat to me, my family, my friends or most
important of all my comfortable surrounding.. My bright and shiny
objects are mine objects are mine all mine....
There is no protection by having the gun you are just giving into
propagating a cycle of violence, fear and despair. The people you feel
you need protection from are a product of the same violence, fear and
despair.
Chris
DC wrote:
> Ok, so you think the guy is a fool, but you don't think anyone
> should have the right to defend themselves against misanthropic
> lunatics.
>
> Well everyone gets an opinion...
>
> DC
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> HI DC,
>>
>> No I believe humans do not need any help or encouragement when it comes
>>
>
>
>> to self destruction.
>> I think the Paul Watson is as has delusional as they come but has the
>> perfect right to have a gun. He can use it to defend him self against
>> the human race. With Americas justice system it should hold up just fine
>>
>
>
>> when he says he defended himself because he felt "imminent threat" to
>> his person and property. Well at least it will if he is from a pro gun
>> state.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> DC wrote:
>>
>>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> HI DC,
>>>>
>>>> Actually yes that way the virus can eradicate itself with out all the
>>>>
>
>
>>>> extra work.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>> Sooo, you agree that humanity is a virus?
>>>
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>There is no protection by having the gun you are just giving into
>propagating a cycle of violence, fear and despair. The people you feel
>you need protection from are a product of the same violence, fear and
>despair.
Bullshit.
You want real despair, just find yourself at the end of a knife,
and all those evil guns are gone. See how far your rap gets
you then.
Read the Clancy book and tell me it is far-fetched...
Without the second amendment, all the other amendments
are just suggestions.
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Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>After all these years of talking to people here, I only know what
>maybe one or two of you look like.
>
>I want visuals.
>
>So, if everyone will email me a recent photo of yourself to pbraun at
>ctgonline dot org, I will assemble a gallery of the Paris Family and
>post it on my server for all to see.
>
>Sound like a deal?
>
>Thought so.
>
>do it.
>
>pab
OK. I’ll bite.
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