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Re: Kim.......a favor to ask [message #97339 is a reply to message #97335] Sat, 22 March 2008 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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to a new one and see where they lead. <BR><BR>Who knows? It=3D92s =
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> we waste a little time and wind up no worse off than =
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> Kerry<BR><BR>On 6/4/08 9:23 PM, in article 48476b8e@linux, "Tom =
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> face=3D3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR>"Kerry =
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> the=3D20
> way, Martin =3D96 the three objections so far seem to be 1) =
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>equivalent wattage=3D20
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>one with a=3D20
> PSU that made PARIS happy?<BR><BR>For that matter, I =3D
>wonder if=3D20
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Re: Kim.......a favor to ask [message #97343 is a reply to message #97342] Sat, 22 March 2008 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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--B_3295514971_1024964--EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>What operating system?
>
>David.
>

D'oh!!! Win XP. I've been running XP on my old PIII 1ghz for the last 3
years without a hitch, it worked straight up.
>Warren wrote:
>> I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
Paris
>> rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
up.
>> I get
>> "Unhandled eception: c00000005
>> At address: 003897c1"
>> The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
sharing
>> IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
a
>> G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
would
>> be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> WarrenThanks a bunch for that. which Invidia card did/do you use?
re: the scsi, I guess I'm just old fashioned and the scsi card and drives
didn't cost me anything and having 10, 15k drives makes me feel hi-tech!
5 year old drives running on a 8 year ols system ..real hi-tech!!!

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>..Also, the G450 should work, but a Nvidia card would be
>better.
>(I was running two G450's on the P4p800s, but these cards had
>issues when shifting windows across the four screens.
>Playback would stop).
>Can't understand why you would want to use SCSI, though.
>Do yourself a favour... pull the drives and card, and buy yourself a
>7200rpm IDE drive. Any cheap-ass 7200rpm drive
>for around 50 bucks would give you enough throughput for 64 tracks.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to that,
>>a p4pe.
>>Both are intel chipsets.
>>I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
>>*should* do the trick.
>>(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.
>>
>>http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>
>>Good Luck.
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
>Paris
>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>up.
>>>I get
>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
sharing
>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>a
>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
>>would
>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Warren
>>
>Good point.

Maybe a separate switch is better. I've never liked switching jacks, I'd
rather not worry about leaving the guitar plugged in.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Kerry Galloway wrote:
> I sure would like to see a broader range of pots available; the push-pull
> thing is great but I'd really want the electronics to turn off when you pull
> it up rather than push it down, for the simple reason that I've never seen a
> pot get accidentally pulled up in the middle of a gig.
>
> - Kerry
>
> On 6/5/08 12:20 AM, in article 48479623@linux, "Jamie K"
> <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:
>
>> Brilliant!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>> StewMac will probably have what you need. Figure out the ohm rating (usually
>>> printed on the back of the pot) and taper (usually audio taper) of whatever
>>> pot you want to replace. Order the same ratings (or if you like smoother
>>> audio moves, try a linear taper pot) in a push/pull. Install. Smile.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message news:48472764$1@linux...
>>>> That's an interesting idea. I like it.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>> yup. Also, you could replace one of the pots with a push/pull pot, and
>>>>> switch it on the guitar w/o having to drill or cut anything.
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:48470995$1@linux...
>>>>>> The guitar makes use of the "ring" terminal shorting to the sleeve of
>>>>>> the 1/4" jack to connect the "-" side of the battery when you put a TS
>>>>>> plug in. If you use a TRS (balanced) 1/4" plug in the guitar you could,
>>>>>> in theory, connect the ring and sleeve at some point farther down the
>>>>>> cable to energize the circuit in the guitar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill L wrote:
>>>>>>> I have a couple guitars with active electronics (a strat w/ EMGs and a
>>>>>>> Buscarino Starlight nylon electric). I hate having to unplug them every
>>>>>>> time I put them down, especially the Buscarino because I don't usually
>>>>>>> use a vol pedal with it. Are there any tricks to cut the battery draw
>>>>>>> while leaving the plug in? I would think that if no circuit is
>>>>>>> completed it might stop the draw.
>I saw that, but I thought the card wouldn't fit because of it's size.

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>
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>
>
>Holy cow ­ how¹d I overlook this in the excitement about the expansion
>chassis?
>
> http://virtuavia.eu/shop/pci-express-to-pci-adapter-p29855.h tml
>
>If it worked with an EDS ­ wouldn¹t this be the ticket to adapt an EDS card
>to a modern, post-PCI 2.3 motherboard without an expansion chassis ­ for
49
>Euro?
>
>Check this thread out here ­ it starts getting really interesting at post
>#27. What¹s the physical size of a UAD vs. an EDS?
>
> http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/122120-compan y-offers-pci-pci
>e-adapter.html
>
>If this works - the game just suddenly got a lot more interesting.
>
>- Kerry
>
>On 6/4/08 7:29 PM, in article 484751e8@linux, "Aaron Allen"
><know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>>> news:C46C767D.B0F2%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>>
>>> By the way, Martin ­ the three objections so far seem to be 1) size
of box,
>>> 2) keying of slots and 3) power supply.
>>>
>>> You took care of the box size question. Here¹s a picture of the inside
of
>>> one of their regular boxes, showing the keying of the slots -
>>>
>>> http://virtuavia.eu/shop/images/detailed_images/big_pci_to_p ci_box.jpg
>>>
>>> And here¹s an EDS showing its keying (it¹s the wrong orientation, but
it
>>> should be easy to match up) -
>>>
>>> That is the RIGHT keying for an EDS!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.synrise.de/images/ensoniq-eds-1000.jpg
>>>
>>> So those look pretty good to go, at least to me.
>>>
>>> In my email to them I¹m addressing the third ­ what¹s the equivalent
wattage
>>> of their PSU and would they have any interest in making one with a PSU
that
>>> made PARIS happy?
>>>
>>> For that matter, I wonder if they¹re just standard PC PSUs, meaning
they
>>> could be swapped out for what you like.
>>>
>> - Kerry
>>
>>
>>
>> Ya rock man
>>
>
>
>
>
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>Check this thread out here – it starts getting really interesting at =
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r /> > thing is great but I'd really want the electronics to turn off when you
> pull
> it up rather than push it down, for the simple reason that I've never seen
> a
> pot get accidentally pulled up in the middle of a gig.
>
> - Kerry
>
> On 6/5/08 12:20 AM, in article 48479623@linux, "Jamie K"
> <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Brilliant!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
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it. Are there any tricks to cut the battery
>>>>>>>> draw
>>>>>>>> while leaving the plug in? I would think that if no circuit is
>>>>>>>> completed it might stop the draw.
>>>>
>>
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I called The Nguyen at TheSoniq earlier and forwarded him everything we’ve
discovered - including the detailed step-by-step for the PSU mod - and asked
if he’d be into doing these mods for PARIS users if we can verify the EDS
cards work otherwise with them, and how much he’d charge for it.

- Kerry

On 6/5/08 4:17 PM, in article 4848764c@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

> yup... that's what I'd have done. I would probably in younger days when I had
> more time gone beyond that and built my own power supplies and skipped the
> whole ATX thing. Bypassing the crappy regulator is probably the easiest way to
> getting enough power through the chassis, BUT you will definitely want some
> kind of protection circuit depending on your supply of choice. Trashing UAD's
> would suck, and trashing EDS's would suck more. $300 a pop at The Soniq = a
> BIG bill. Better to build the right supply from the start, and frankly your
> EDS cards will last longer with cleaner voltage (and likely be more stable as
> well).
>
> AA
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C46D7D7F.B104%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Hey, thanks AA –
>>
>> The VirtuaVia’s PSU is causing deal-breaking problems, and those need to be
>> eliminated first before anything else can be determined. Here’s a very
>> interesting thread from the UAD forums, looks like someone else was thinking
>> the same thing as me –
>>
>> How to get the VirtuaVia box working with multiple UAD cards
>>
>> How to get the VirtuaVia box working with multiple UAD cards
>> by mkstat on Mon May 12, 2008 12:03 pm
>>
>> A few months ago I bought a Virtua Via PCIe to PCI expansion chassis for my
>> new MacPro 8x3GHz to run my PCI UAD cards.
>> The reason why the VV box doesn´t work properly with more than one UAD cards
>> is because of a weak powersupply. The included external PSU delivers 12V/3A
>> and unfortunately the maximum rating of the internal (on the card) 5V
>> step-down switching regulator (2596) is also limited to 3A. So using a
>> higher power rating 12V PSU is pointless. The UAD manual says: „Each UAD
>> card uses a maximum of 14 watts of 5 volt power from the PCI bus“ – in other
>> words each card draws 2.8A at 5V from the PSU. So there is no chance for
>> safe operation of more than one card plugged in the chassis. I actually had
>> problems with just one card at higher cpu loads (80%+) in form of dropouts.
>>
>> BUT:
>> After disabling the on-card 5V step-down switching regulator and connecting
>> a 400W ATX computer powersupply directly to the PCB in the VV box a setup
>> with 3 UAD cards (each with 95% CPU load) worked flawlessly!
>>
>> The modification is quite easy and safe to do for people with some
>> experience in electronics and PCB soldering skills.
>>
>> For those who are interested I will post a step by step guide with some pics
>> for this modification during next week.
>>
>> -Markus
>> Last edited by mkstat on Tue May 13, 2008 9:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
>>
>>
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> >>>
>>>plugins
>>>
>>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>>
>>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>>
>>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything else
>>>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>>>>The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>>>>starting
>>>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>>>
>>>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck!
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Jeff,

No, that is probably the only thing I haven't tried. I have just spent another
whole day with countless fresh XP installs every time I try something new.
I even removed my SCSI card and drives today installing on an IDE drive with
the same "unhandled exception" message. Is it likely that a default project
could cause this? Basically I'm baffled and am at the point where I think
I should have just stuck with my crappy old PIII, the thing works and with
a reformat is as stable as they come.

Thanks for everyones help, keep you posted if anything works.

Warren
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Warren,
>
>Did you try starting up without a default project in the Paris folder?
>
>Jeff
>
> wrote:
>> Aaron,
>>
>> Have disabled everything in the bios and the EDS cards are not sharing
IRQ's.
>> Different XP .. as you can see I'm at the clutchting at straws stage.
I did
>> install to the default folder - Program Files\EMU etc so, I will give
that
>> a go.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Warren
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:484c7274$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Mike,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for that, I haven't tried any of those options. I've been doing
>>
>>
>>>>fresh
>>>>installs each time so the only plugins installed are the default Paris
>>
>>
>>>>ones
>>>>so, unlikely?
>>>>I'll give your suggestions a try and see what happens, after that I've
>>
>> run
>>
>>>>out of options. I do have another version of XP I will try not that I
>>
>> see
>>
>>>>that making any difference.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>different XP.....I can't see how that'll help. Have you tried to install
>>
>>
>>>only one EDS at a time, and make SURE in the BIOS that it is not sharing
>>
>> an
>>
>>>IRQ with anything else. Kill stuff like USB, modem, COM ports, LPT port.
>>
>>
>>>Strip it down to the absolute bare necessities. Check the hardware list
>>
>> once
>>
>>>you've done this to make sure again that there is no IRQ sharing. if it
>>
>> is,
>>
>>>move the EDS to another PCI slot.
>>>Also, when you install Paris, make it go to C:\Paris and also when putting
>>
>>
>>>the XP drivers in make sure they do the same... by default they do NOT.
>>
>> Pay
>>
>>>close attention to this.
>>>
>>>G'luck, report back.
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>Warren
>>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Warren,
>>>>>
>>>>>I haven't read every post in your thread, so I apologize if you've already
>>>>>tried these things.
>>>>>
>>>>>Try disabling direct x by manually editing the paris.cfg file by adding
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>line:
>>>>>
>>>>>DisableDirectX=1
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sure that you do not have a default project in your Paris directory.
>>>>>
>>>>>make sure that your VST directory is pointed to a directory with no
VST
>>>>
>>>>plugins
>>>>
>>>>>in it. The following line is in the paris.cfg file:
>>>>>
>>>>>VSTDirectory=C:\vst\
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sure that the effects updates, the PACE update, and everything
else
>>>>>involved in getting PARIS to work in XP has been followed to the letter.
>>>>>The only times I have ever gotten an unhanded exception error when
>>>>>starting
>>>>>PARIS is when I have had a bad DX, VST or EDS plugin installed.
>>>>>
>>>>>You could also try installing PARIS 2.0 to see if this is a PACE issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>Hi Warren.
Just to satisfy my curiosity, and assist the process of elimination,
Download and execute this little app:

http://www.freewarefiles.com/MemTest_program_20030.html

It is a memory tester, and runs by itself, without an install.

I recently had issues with a friend's PC, wjich was behaving strangely, and
Memtest spotted the incompatible RAM almost immediately.

Worth a try for the little time it takes.

Kim

"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>I have tried several things now none of which have worked - still getting
>the same error message. I'm not sure how I disable bus mastering on the
G450
>driver. I had a look at the driver preferences etc but couldn't see any
bus
>mastering option.
>
>Thanks,
>Warren
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Warren,
>>
>>Try disabling bus mastering in the G450 driver.
>>
>>Let me know how it goes.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
>Paris
>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>up.
>>>I get
>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
sharing
>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>a
>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
>>would
>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Warren
>>
>Hey guys, it's Monkietime! These are EXTREMELY rough mixes of the upcoming
record. By rough I mean pretty much mixed with a 2x4, i.e. barely mixed at
all, but it's in indication o
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f what we're doing.

http://www.applebyfamily.com/monkies/stoatspreview

Feedback welcome,

TCBNo problems here with either. Running Vista at home with the latest SP just
fine. As far as XP SP3, I just pushed it to 600 of my machines here at the
office and the phones are quiet ... (fingers crossed) haha.


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>I haven't completely/methodically tested out my Quad Core 6600, but I did
>System Restore then installed XP SP3, All seems to be fine here on it. I
>haven't noted any jump in CPU usage or anything funny that's obvious.
>
> I have fired up several audio and video apps, done print jobs.. nothing
> broken as of yet and it actually fixed a strange power saving issue I had
> where the second monitor wouldn't wake up w/o a reboot. So far, so good.
> Unfortu
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Paris machine to surf is asking for it and no amount of SPx is gonna save
> from the inevitable bad luck.
>
> This is by no means a resounding Microsoft is Great! Microsoft is Perfect!
> Install it! It just so happens that it's worked out here on this
> particular box well for me. I wouldn't, historically v
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>AA
>>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:484d3f1a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey guys, it's Monkietime! These are EXTREMELY rough mixes of the
>>> upcoming
>>> record. By rough I mean pretty much mixed with a 2x4, i.e. barely mixed
> a
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