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Laptop Recording Question [message #88743] Sun, 05 August 2007 14:58 Go to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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rboards.
>I have one hear collecting dust that I think still works if you ever
>plan on adding another. :)
>
>They had a real shitty upgrade offer to the Mk2 so never upgraded.
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>DJ wrote:
>> I found one of the old PCI cards on EBay last week so I figured WTF not
buy
>> it and give it a spin. I actually like this system a lot. I think the
plugs
>> sound very good. They aren't UAD-1 plugs, but they are nicely done
>> nevertheless and the Megareverb is much better sounding to my ears
>> (presetwise, of course) than UA's Dreamverb. I had sort of prepared myself

>> for it not to work since I've got a dual core CPU and there are some issues

>> with certain AMD duallie chipsets, but it works fine with my Gigabyte
GA
>> K8NS Ultra 939 and Opteron 185.
>>
>> I'm giving it a thumbs up,.especially for $150.00. Check EBay. The old
ones
>> are out there cheap these days. You will need lots or room in your case

>> though.this thing is longer than an EDS 1000.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762HEY you freaking guy MIKE !!
I missed your post !
Wow that is what I asked for some weeks before !
I will donate something to you ,not much right now but will follow more !
FreakQ is great now, would be perfect if you could fing a Q factor but anyway
this is a BIG update to the other one !!
Heads up !!
Dimitrios

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I have donated a small morsel of funds to the Mike Audet Project
>at mike AT mikeaudet dot com .
>I know Mike has plans to do many things. It is nice to know new things=20
>still materialize for Paris after it has been long forgotten by most. =20
>
>All that can should take part in Mike's effort by donating a little
>something. If we all
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88748 is a reply to message #88743] Sun, 05 August 2007 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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ank">no@no.com> wrote in message news:46fe18b3$1@linux...
>
> Steely Dan went stupid at a young age. Aja showed what live studio
musicians
> could do when they played together and had extended jams.


It has to do with the quality of the songs to begin with. They aren't
writing "aja's"
anymore but I like very much what's coming from D & W these days.


dbIf you like drum machines that is.There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which
when someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.

DC



"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on R.A.P.
>discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
>cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more accurate?
>
>
>An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>Or third, using test equipment. For example, running test signals down
the cable, recording them with a highly accurate recorder, and comparing
the playback using test/analysis gear, and with phase cancellation, to
the original signal recorded on the same highly accurate recorder.

Complicated by the speaker level signals, but it seems doable.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


DC wrote:
> There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
> in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which
> when someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
> the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
> should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
> acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.
>
> DC
>
>
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on R.A.P.
>> discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
>> cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more accurate?
>>
>>
>> An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>

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Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88749 is a reply to message #88743] Sun, 05 August 2007 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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f_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better" target="_blank"> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47025bdd@linux...
>
> If you like drum machines that is.

Dood, they were using drum machines that R. Nichols invented
back on Gaucho. Namely "Wendell"

Most of the recent works features the work of a young
Keith Carlock. <---quite good. My problem with the current drum
sound it that it is SO DEAD, hardly any cymbols etc..

dbCould work, but the test gear would likely introduce far more variables than
AA (audiophiles anonymous)
could accept without exploding into an obsessive compulsive fit.

I love the San Fran guy's comment about the cables being more danceable.....
rofl.
(hmm.... since when does an obsessed audiophile dance? The vibrations would
jar the turntable, which is of course vibration isolated from the building,
and even the earth and air itself, but why take a chance... ? ;-)).

Then again, I would probably be dancing around too - in disbelief that I
actually spend $7250 on a cable,
and hoping so badly that it made a difference that I convinced myself it did
just to avoid the sinking
feeling of wasting more money than my car was worth. ;-)

For sure better cables can really be better in some ways, but whether one
can hear a 145x improvement over a $50 cable...

Dedric

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:47026242$1@linux...
>
> Or third, using test equipment. For example, running test signals down the
> cable, recording them with a highly accurate recorder, and comparing the
> playback using test/analysis gear, and with phase cancellation, to the
> original signal recorded on the same highly accurate recorder.
>
> Complicated by the speaker level signals, but it seems doable.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DC wrote:
>> There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
>> in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which when
>> someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
>> the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
>> should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
>> acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on
>>> R.A.P.
>>> discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
>>> cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actually more
>>> accurate?
>>>
>>>
>>> An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>>Dead and drum machine like....I refer the jury back to Aja...back when drummers
knew how to play."Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:

>For sure better cables can really be better in some ways, but whether one

>can hear a 145x improvement over a $50 cable...


These things are for rich guys who fill their lives buying expensive
baubles.

They should find a nice charity instea
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88750 is a reply to message #88743] Sun, 05 August 2007 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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d.

DC"D-unit" <cof42_AT_embarqmail.com> wrote:
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47025bdd@linux...
>>
>> If you like drum machines that is.
>
>Dood, they were using drum machines that R. Nichols invented
>back on Gaucho. Namely "Wendell"
>
>Most of the recent works features the work of a young
>Keith Carlock. <---quite good. My problem with the current drum
>sound it that it is SO DEAD, hardly any cymbols etc..

Man, you wanna hear some cymbal-less drumming, check out King
Crimson's "Discipline". Single cymbal hits on the 1-count
every 8 or 16 measures or so in most songs, with a few rare
exceptions in some scattered sections.

Neil"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote in message
news:46feedb9$1@linux...
>
> "Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote:
>>At the very least, it's definitely a candidate, yes?
>
> yes

I have always wanted to be at the Guernsey fair at closing time so I could
also detect the El Supremo at the top of the stairs. what a strange and
somehow perversely alluring image.But then you need "perfect" speakers in an acoustically transparent environment,
neither of which any two testers could probably agree upon since neither
is really possible.

gantt

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>Or third, using test equipment. For example, running test signals down
>the cable, recording them with a highly accurate recorder, and comparing

>the playback using test/analysis gear, and with phase cancellation, to
>the original signal recorded on the same highly accurate recorder.
>
>Complicated by the speaker level signals, but it seems doable.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>DC wrote:
>> There's 2 kinds of proof that matter: There's the kind that is shown
>> in double-blind tests where someone can ID which cable is which
>> when someone else is changing them w/o him seeing, and there is
>> the proof that comes from someone who knows what the recording
>> should sound like, and that only works when there is an objective
>> acoustic reference point. An orchestra, or acoustic jazz for instance.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Yeah, but how do you prove it? There was a thread (one of many) on R.A.P.
>>> discussing this and the point was made that while you can certainly make
>>> cable that sounds DIFFERENT how can you know that it's actua
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88752 is a reply to message #88750] Sun, 05 August 2007 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lt;no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>>I think I recall reading somewhere that George Massenburg used high quality
(but not audio-fool) 12 gauge speaker cable.

"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>But then you need "perfect" speakers in an acoustically transparent environment,
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88754 is a reply to message #88752] Sun, 05 August 2007 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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gt;
>>>> An age old debate... with no end in sight!
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>> http://digg.com/gadgets/1_Million_If_Audiophiles_Can_Prove_7 250_Speaker_Cable_Are_Better
>>>
>as long as i can listen to it on 64kb/s mp3 with earbuds what's the
prob?


On 3 Oct 2007 03:27:43 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>I think I recall reading somewhere that George Massenburg used high quality
>(but not audio-fool) 12 gauge speaker cable.
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>But then you need "perfect" speakers in an aco
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88756 is a reply to message #88754] Sun, 05 August 2007 22:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and bring a
>> guest(s), please let me know so I can make a reservation.
>>
>> - Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Well, if anyone does order paella, they can be assured that I'll be there in
spirit.

;oD

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote in message
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>
> Paella - Off the menu!
> G
>
> "DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>>Man......I wish I could come. I'd like to dive naked into a giant cauldron
>
>>of paella ;
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>Hey Paul,

I thought I was going to miss this one but it turns out a good friend of
mine from Germany will be in town, so I'll almost have to make it. Put me
down as a tentative. No guests at this point, unless I catch a really good
break ;-)

TCB

Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>I'm thinking this place (Meson Sevilla -
>http://www.mesonsevilla.com/med
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88761 is a reply to message #88756] Mon, 06 August 2007 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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; process is taking way too long for our taste.
>
> We had a major electrical storm last week, and I've got a fried computer.
> I know for a fact that the power supply is dead. I got it tested today.
>
> Anybody got a relatively recent Pentium motherboard buildout for Paris? Just
> in case the motherboard is fried? I'd love to have four PCI slots, but that's
> getting rare, I know.
>
> Perhaps I still have a good motherboard, but I won't know until I have my
> new power supply.
>
> It's getting harder and harder to avoid the inevitable PCI obsolesesnce.
>
>
> Hope everybody is well.
> Jimmy"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4702e168$1@linux...
>
> Interesting. Motown Eq
> http://www.ursplugins.com/

So they copied the UAD-1 console strip?ASUS A7V was the best mobo I ever used with Paris, but it's an AMD board.

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C32870D6.D392%dterry@keyofd.net...
> Hey Jimmy - sorry no recommendations on the motherboard, but I wanted to
> say
> congrats on the licensing offer! Keep us posted.
>
> I'm sure someone will have a Paris-compatible board recommendation.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 10/2/07 9:41 PM, in article 47030f7b$1@linux, "uptown jimmy"
> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Howdy, kids. I hope you all are well. I have been gone a while, mostly
>> due
>> to massive computer (and financial) troubles.
>>
>> Me and Swen have received an offer from a licensing company. These guys
>> have
>> had real success placing local artists with film, TV shows, and TV
>> advertising,
>> replete with royalties and all the rest. We are excited, though the legal
>> process is taking way too long for our taste.
>>
>> We had a major electrical storm last week, and I've got a fried computer.
>> I know for a fact that the power supply is dead. I got it tested today.
>>
>> Anybody got a relatively recent Pentium motherboard buildout for Paris?
>> Just
>> in case the motherboard is fried? I'd love to have four PCI slots, but
>> that's
>> getting rare, I know.
>>
>> Perhaps I still have a good motherboard, but I won't know until I have my
>> new power supply.
>>
>> It's getting harder and harder to avoid the inevitable PCI obsolesesnce.
>>
>>
>> Hope everybody is well.
>> Jimmy
>"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> w
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88762 is a reply to message #88749] Mon, 06 August 2007 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rote in message
news:7fo5g3tkid0sds3ieee440hs6db41otd9h@4ax.com...
> On 3 Oct 2007 03:04:06 +1000, "Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"D-unit" <cof42_AT_embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47025bdd@linux...
>>>>
>>>> If you like drum machines that is.
>>>
>>>Dood, they were using drum machines that R. Nichols invented
>>>back on Gaucho. Namely "Wendell"
>>>
>>>Most of the recent works features the work of a young
>>>Keith Carlock
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88764 is a reply to message #88762] Mon, 06 August 2007 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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research. Drivers for the
components seem to be an issue on many items... but the linux audio gurus
are over coming that... Be nice to sink my windows into the trash forever
with the rest of the virii! Perhaps many don't want to believe it, but many
truly believe linux is the way of the future for computing and serious
audio...



"Tyrone Corbett" <tyronecorbett@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Guys, I have been having a problem for some time accessing the "newsgroup"
> from my studio computer. I'm thinking the problem is on my end, as I have
> no problem getting in from other computers elsewhere.
>
> There are periods where I can get in to post without a problem, but
> increasingly,
> the internet page freezes (ONLY on the newsgroup page). I cannot figure
> out
> what causes it. I have Norton, as well as Webroot which show no viruses or
> spyware, but the fact that this problem only occurs on the "newsgroup",
> only
> on this computer gives it a virus type feel.
>
> Incidentally, today was one of those rare days that I got in without an
> issue,
> but even that could changes the next time I try to access this page.
>
> Any thoughts anyone?
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Or does anyone have good companies that may stock
these older guys?

The one I'm looking for reads:

fP94AD
DM74LS =20
244WM

The results I've gotten so far aren't perfect matches.

I know it's unlikely but it's worth a try.
Thanks for anything you can add.
Tom




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Re: Laptop Recording Question/Macintosh Pro [message #88771 is a reply to message #88743] Mon, 06 August 2007 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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------=_NextPart_000_0373_01C80615.42B558C0--"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Aaron,
>Digi-Key was the place to go.
>The chip is no longer made by Fairchild

Fairchild??? So if I stick this in a simple i/o hot/cold wire
in a metal kit box from Radio Shack, will it sound like a 670?

:DOTOH, in the interested of having some choices, it'd be better to have
DP and Logic continue to compete.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Gantt Kushner wrote:
> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers toget
Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88773 is a reply to message #88743] Mon, 06 August 2007 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>> Motu.
>
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I hope this is the solution for you bro.... be wary though, those are =
static sensitive chips. Take proper precautions installing/handling them =
or they could be damaged installing. If you're not sure of the =
precedure, shoot me a private email.=20

AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Aaron,
Digi-Key was the place to go.
The chip is no longer made by Fairchild
but they had a pin for pin replacement for .88/pc .
I got ten just in case all three of my Mecs need
both replaced.

I hope this solves the whole problem.
Huge thanks to you my friend,
Tom



"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
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I'm not sure about the DM, but the 74LS series chip is pretty common =
TTL logic gate as I recall. Try getting specs at national semiconductor. =

Have you looked at the usual suspects yet?

Radio Shack
Mouser
Digikey
MCM Electronics
Jameco
Newark
ECG

AA


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:470417bf$1@linux...
Or does anyone have good companies that may stock
these older guys?

The one I'm looking for reads:

fP94AD
DM74LS =20
244WM

The results I've gotten so far aren't perfect matches.

I know it's unlikely but it's worth a try.
Thanks for anything you can add.
Tom




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Re: Laptop Recording Question/Macintosh Pro [message #88776 is a reply to message #88771] Mon, 06 August 2007 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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hanks to you my =
friend,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>&gt; =
wrote=20
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href=3D"news:47042dd9@linux">news:47042dd9@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not sure about the DM, but the =
74LS series=20
chip is pretty common TTL logic gate as I recall. Try getting specs =
at=20
national semiconductor. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have you looked at the usual =
suspects=20
yet?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>Radio Shack</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mouser</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Digikey</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MCM Electronics</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jameco</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Newark</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ECG</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Or does anyone have good =
companies that may=20
stock</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>these older guys?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The one I'm looking for =
reads:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fP94AD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DM74LS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>244WM</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The results I've gotten so far =
aren't perfect=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know it's unlikely but it's =
worth a=20
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Re: Laptop Recording Question/Macintosh Pro [message #88807 is a reply to message #88776] Tue, 07 August 2007 13:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Helm is currently offline  Steve Helm
Messages: 37
Registered: April 2006
Member
aMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>>> Motu.
>>>
>>>
>http://www.toontrack.com/s20.asp

Check out the Demos (right side) below..I agree with you about Motus status, but DP is not a big seller. Too often
yo hear that :

-User interface is too busy

-midi first

-clucky audio editing.

I own DP4 and have it on a G4 and while it's avery capable seqencer with
great features like Polar and such, I just think that more composers prefer
Logic's Sequencer for midi composing. Then, on the audio side, we like sleek,
fast, audio recording and editing aong with mixing.

DP is not in the league with Neundo,Pro Tools in that department. So, yes,
they have a winner with their stellar hardware...But, on the software side,
I don't know ..Tough call there

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>LaMont wrote:
>> Hey Jamie, on the software front, Motu can't compete with Apple's giveaway
>> pricing of Logic Studio.
>
>Sure they can.
>
>MOTU has a great sequencer that was already priced at $500 long before
>Apple came down to that price.
>
>MOTU has some very capable software instruments and they work with
>anyone's sequencer including Logic and DP.
>
>And MOTU has dependable, workhorse i/o hardware.
>
>MOTU can sell hardware/software bundles with DP, and they can sell
>instrument and hardware add-ons that work with any sequencer. A lot of
>the basic R&D costs should be recouped by now, they are in a good
>position to build from the solid tech base they have achieved.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> > Let's be honest, DP's main user base is the Hollywood
>> composer crowd. Not enough to keep up with Apple's onslaught.
>>
>> Competition is good for any industry, but it seems that like most industries,
>> "consolidation" is the name of the game.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> OTOH, in the interested of having some choices, it'd be better to have

>>> DP and Logic continue to compete.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>>> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers together w/ the Apple engineers
>>>> to combine DP and Logic?
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>>>> Motu.
>>>>
>>Really nichey product. Small niches.. "A lot more people use DP than you think"

Your average DAW consumer does not go to their GC, Sam Ash etcand ask for
DP..Rather Pro Tools (LE, M-Powered) Cubase SX, Logic Audio..Abelton Live..Acid
Pro, Sonar

I hope they re-invent it's DP like Logic Audio 8, and come up with a user
interface that's not so busy.. Take the Nuendo/SX & Protools Approach which
is the 2 screen first (Audio arrange/Mixer)..Then, toggle your way into the
Midi and other stuff..Just like Logic 8 has.

If not, their market share will continue to shrink. What DP does, no other
DAW does. The tools that are embedded in that app is just plain stupid!!
Conducter/arrange track, Polar and many others.. They just have to find
away to stream line and dare I say, dumb it down a bit.

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>A lot more people use DP than you think. The Mac side needs to maintain
choice,
>other wise people will say that there is no Audio software for the Mac.

>Stupid people would listen and abandon the platform. There is not one size
>that fits all, people like choice.
>
>I thought they should have bought Steinberg, MOTU over Emagic, but hey,
it's
>all history now. By the way have you seen Apple stock prices lately? They
>must have made some right choices. I wish I would have listen to myself
>and bought when they dipped below $14.00 a share. The stock has split at
>least once or twice since then. Oh well.
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Jamie, on the software front, Motu can't compete with Apple's giveaway
>>pricing of Logic Studio. Let's be honest, DP's main user base is the Hollywood
>>composer crowd. Not enough to keep up with Apple's onslaught.
>>
>>Competition is good for any industry, but it seems that like most industries,
>>"consolidation" is the name of the game.
>>
>>
>>
>>Jamie K <

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Steve Helm is currently offline  Steve Helm
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Member
eta@Dimensional.com" target="_blank">Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>OTOH, in the interested of having some choices, it'd be better to have
>
>>>DP and Logic continue to compete.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>>> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers together w/ the Apple engineers
>>>> to combine DP and Logic?
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>>
>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>>>> Motu.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>You should upgrade to DP 5.x, there were some great improvements around 4.5
through 5.0.


"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I agree with you about Motus status, but DP is not a big seller. Too often
>yo hear that :
>
>-User interface is too busy
>
>-midi first
>
>-clucky audio editing.
>
>I own DP4 and have it on a G4 and while it's avery capable seqencer with
>great features like Polar and such, I just think that more composers prefer
>Logic's Sequencer for midi composing. Then, on the audio side, we like
sleek,
>fast, audio recording and editing aong with mixing.
>
>DP is not in the league with Neundo,Pro Tools in that department. So, yes,
>they have a winner with their stellar hardware...But, on the software side,
>I don't know ..Tough call there
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>LaMont wrote:
>>> Hey Jamie, on the software front, Motu can't compete with Apple's giveaway
>>> pricing of Logic Studio.
>>
>>Sure they can.
>>
>>MOTU has a great sequencer that was already priced at $500 long before

>>Apple came down to that price.
>>
>>MOTU has some very capable software instruments and they work with
>>anyone's sequencer including Logic and DP.
>>
>>And MOTU has dependable, workhorse i/o hardware.
>>
>>MOTU can sell hardware/software bundles with DP, and they can sell
>>instrument and hardware add-ons that work with any sequencer. A lot of

>>the basic R&D costs should be recouped by now, they are in a good
>>position to build from the solid tech base they have achieved.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> > Let's be honest, DP's main user base is the Hollywood
>>> composer crowd. Not enough to keep up with Apple's onslaught.
>>>
>>> Competition is good for any industry, but it seems that like most industries,
>>> "consolidation" is the name of the game.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> OTOH, in the interested of having some choices, it'd be better to have
>
>>>> DP and Logic continue to compete.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gantt Kushner wrote:
>>>>> Damn! And put the MOTU software engineers together w/ the Apple engineers
>>>>> to combine DP and Logic?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my thought,I think it would be a great move if Apple aquired
>>>>>> Motu.
>>>>>
>>>
>http://www.ableton.com/live-7-whats-new

It seems that they have addressed the one thing that users and non users
have complained about and that's the audio engine. To my ears, it did sound
a bit vanilla. Now, they've twaeked it.Hey, Dedric, what's this 64bit summing upgrade from Ableton all about? I thought
, all that summing business was baloney.Well, everybody's got an opinion, mine is that DP 5 is pretty slick in it's
own right. At one time DP was one of the top softwares in professional studios.
A lot of guys still use it. Sweetwater for one, still pushes DP pretty
hard.

I would call DECK a niche DAW, but not DP, there are still many users. Remember,
DP is a Pro App, there are guys that can do anything with DP that any other
DAW can do.

All these companies leapfrog each other with features. DP has had features
that some DAWs had only recently gotten around to. There is a possibility
that DP will now create PC versions due to Apple's move. I wouldn't count
MOTU out just yet, just like I wouldn't count out Sony/SonicFoundry, or CakeWalk.

"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Really nichey product. Small niches.. "A lot more people use DP than you
think"
>
>Your average DAW consumer does not go to their GC, Sam Ash etcand ask for
>DP..Rather Pro Tools (LE, M-Powered) Cubase SX, Logic Audio..Abelton Live..Acid
>Pro, Sonar
>
>I hope they re-invent it's DP like Logic Audio 8, and come up with a user
>interface that's not so busy.. Take the Nuendo/SX & Protools Approach which
>is the 2 screen first (Audio arrange/Mixer)..Then, toggle your way into
the
>Midi and other stuff..Just like Logic 8 has.
>
>If not, their market share will continue to shrink. What
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Re: Laptop Recording Question [message #88976 is a reply to message #88959] Tue, 14 August 2007 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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> > "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4706d296$1@linux...
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> and also if anyone can
>>>> tell me what the hell kind of music this is.
>>> Haight-Ashbury Retro?
>>
>> :D ok, was just teasing there. Actually I think I'd describe it
>> as eclectic-electric-folk. There was one part in there that had
>> kind of Tori Amos vibe, but it's still more folk-oriented than
>> that, I guess.
>>
>> But it DOES have that sort of Acid-Era vibe to it... reminds me
>> of something from that period - err... if i could... only...
>> remember... what.
>>
>> Melanie. Seriously - reminds me of her stuff!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Neil (who was, fortunately, still too young to be dropping tabs
>> back then)
>
>Hey what's up with Macle. He posted some brilliant music to the site
back in the day. I thought he would have won a Grammy by now. His shit
sounded so good I was jealous.

I Googled and here is a Macle tune for those who remember him.
http://www.garageband.com/song/reviews.html?%7Cpe1%7CS8LTM0L dsaSnYlK2ams

Now back to our regularly scheduled program: Sarah, you rock!

steve the artguy wrote:
> Sarah-
>
> This sounds 100% like a Saratonin tune. Like nothing else.
>
> Kinda like Macle sounds 100% like Macle.
>
> It's a rare gift to sound completely original and unique and authentic at
> the same time. I love it.
>
> -stev
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> . . . had it been a real emergency, etc
>>
>> OK, I don't normally do this, but damn it, this song is driving me crazy
>
>> and I need some opinions . . .
>>
>> I'm linking a demo of a song from the new CD project. It's a weird
>
>> little ditty and I just wanna know what people think and also if anyone
> can
>> tell me what the hell kind of music this is. Or maybe that doesn't matter.
>
>> Who cares about categories anyway?
>>
>> Remember, it's just a quick demo, so excuse the midi drums and the raspy
>
>> scratch vocal. :)
>>
>> to stream:
>> http://www.sarahtonin.com/playlist/Dream%20demo.m3u
>>
>> or to download
>> http://www.sarahtonin.com/music/Dream%20demo.mp3
>>
>> Thanks for listening,
>>
>> Sarah J. Tonin
>>
>>
>http://www.ams-neve.com/There have been a few clocking challenges but these have been resolved. This
system is very streamlined and works well at low latencies. I'm working at
3ms with ASIO direct monitor ing disabled and very little CPU load. It's
interesting that I could hear latency at 3ms with my HDSP 9652 but not with
this card. I con't really understand how tha could be, unless I had
something screwey going on with my driver load or some other routing
wierdness. Well, anyway, things are looking better here than they have in a
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>>
>>>If this work, this could be the bets thing for all stypes of studios big
>>and
>>>small.
>>>
>>> http://aes.harmony-central.com/123AES/Content/IKMultimedia/P R/ARC.html
>>
>Hey,
My first time trying it.
arrrghh how can you guys stand it.
very hard to follow stuff.

Having a good time at AES but boy do my feet hurt.
The paris dinner was a hoot. great to see everybody.
I'll check back in in a few days.

ChrisNice Job DJ!! ..But, remember PTHD run circles (Sorry James) arounf PTHD on
a comprible mac. Letting you run your UAD (via fx wrap) if you want to.

So, you would not have to purchase a new PC. he PC(s) you are are more than
enough..

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>There have been a few clocking challenges but these have been resolved.
This
>system is very streamlined and works well at low latencies. I'm working
at
>3ms with ASIO direct monitor ing disabled and very little CPU load. It's

>interesting that I could hear latency at 3ms with my HDSP 9652 but not with

>this card. I con't really understand how tha could be, unless I had
>something screwey going on with my driver load or some other routing
>wierdness. Well, anyway, things are looking better here than they have in
a
>while. I must admit that PTHD system with the new controller looks nice,
but
>for $18k plus the computer to run it, I think the MADI running on Cubase
4
>with a bunch of UAD-1 cards is a mighty nice alternative.
>
>I may build myself a little bit heftier computer just to insure enough
>horsepower when dubbing projects that already are at fairly high track
>counts with processors loading the system down and call it good.
>
>I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle Intel quads

>and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>
>
>
>
>Saw that..Nice, but starting @ 50k.hey nickel and dime you to another 25k
for comps, pres.. Its the Big tease. :)

"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>http://www.ams-neve.com/
>
>The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to IRQ
sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need a single
quad core.

Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.

Dedric

On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Dj,
>
>> I wonder if there are any mobos with PCI slots that will handle Intel quads
>
>> and are compaible with UAD-1 cards.
>>
>
> No
>
> Chris
>
>Hmmmm...thanks Dedric. there are lots of nightmare reviews of the mobo on
NewEgg. Seems pretty buggy with mixed results of having a bios upgrade solve
the problems. that said, the bugginess seems to be RAID relqated and I'm not
using RAID arrays so it might be worth a shot.

I've got everything here to build one except the CPU, mobo and
RAM.....oh.oops...I'm gonna need a compatible dual head PCIe vid card too.

..

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C32DA82F.D5A6%dterry@keyofd.net...
> The Asus P5W DH Deluxe has 3 PCI (though you can only use 2 due to IRQ
> sharing), and 3 PCIe, and is quad core compatible, if you only need a
> single
> quad core.
>
> Haven't tried it with a Magma or SBS though.
>
> Dedric
>
> On 10/6/07 7:39 PM, in article 470838bf$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
> <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
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