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| OK the. Now I get it. [message #78604] |
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Deej [4]
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has one of these Claytor-67's and LOVES it - just ask him).
This is the mic that inspired Royer's Mojave MA-200, which goes
for a grand, street price. This mic is a little less "scooped"
in sound than the Mojave (one of which I have, so I've
a/b'ed 'em), and is actually a little cleaner, or less "wooly",
depending on how you look at it. Comes with swivel mount &
PSU/PSU cable, no aluminum case or Cherrywood box or anything
like that for this custom hand-built rig, but it will of course
be properly packed to ensure safe arrival. $500
6.) RODE NT5's - Nice, quiet, bright but not overly-hyped SDC
Matched Pair. Sound great
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78605 is a reply to message #78604] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:03  |
Kim
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on Hat, as room mics, on Acoustic
guitars. My perception of these mics: Want a pair of KM-184's
but can't afford 'em? Get these... self-noise, SPL, and SNR all
spec out within a couple db's of each other, and these are a bit
more "sparkly"-sounding than the 184's (to my ears, anyway, the
184's are somewhat smoother) but a pretty good utility pair of
SDC's, to be sure. Comes with mic clips, foam windscreens & hard
plastic case housing the whole kit. Used twice. $300
7.) TL Audio Indigo 2051 - Hybrid Tube/SS Channel Strip... has
Mic Pre/DI/Comp/4-Band EQ... EQ is pretty clean & useable (Hi
shelf, 8k or 12k; Lo shelf, 80 or 120; Lo-Mid semi-parametric;
and Hi-Mid semi-parametric). Compressor is VERY smooth. Want to
hear it? Look up any of the "Abinormal" clips/songs on
saqqararecords.com & guess w
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78606 is a reply to message #78604] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:18 |
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hich vocals were done through the
compressor section of this unit, and which were done through
a vintage LA-2A :) Although it's hybrid, it doesn't
sound raspy like a lot of the starved-plate designs, unless you
push the crap out of it intentionally, then you can drive it
hard & get some dirt going. If I used compressors & EQ's more
to track, I'd prolly keep this one, but since I don't very
often, let's see if anyone's interested... Single-space
rackmount unit, no manual or original box. $500
8.) Avalon 737 Mercenary Edition... Same as the "SP", but
in "None More Black", and has foregone the expensive metal
knobs... everyone knows this unit, I think; but if you don't,
you can read about it here:
http://www.mercenary.com/vtspecmered.html
Minty, minty, minty - w/Manual & original box $1,600
I think t
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78612 is a reply to message #78607] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:10 |
Deej [4]
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>>>(used to be my native DAW). She's migrating from a Cobalt G4 and needs to
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>>be
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>>>able to access her old files that she created on her Mac.
>>>
>>>Is there another app that will do this or do I need not worry? I can't
>>>call
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>>>them. It's too late and I need to know the answer to this right now or I
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>>>will die.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>I worked on Service Desk for some graphic designers/publishers a couple of
years back who used it a lot. Yes, that's all it did, allowed you to open
Mac disks on PC. Did it well though.
We had Illustrator, Photoshop, Indesign and all the other common publishing
goodies however and they translated pretty well. There are a few little pitfalls
such as fonts and stuff, and the two file systems have a few compatibility
issues. Macs can only have about 32 characters in their file name for example,
whereas PC's have 256 I think. Mac's however can include wierdo characters
like % / & and stuff whereas PC's can't. Also, on a PC a word doc has the
3 character .doc on the end, whereas on MAC that's all hidden and invisable
(and in most cases I think a 4 letter descriptor). Hence you often had to
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78613 is a reply to message #78608] |
Thu, 18 January 2007 21:13 |
Deej [4]
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r />
add the suffix when moving to PC etc. Often you'll need to be sure you have
the appropriate fonts available on both platforms...
But in terms of basic file compatibility between the Adobe apps, there wasn't
really any issues I experienced. Adobe actually dealt with the cross platform
bit fairly well IMO.
Cheers,
Kim.
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Deej,
>
>Last time I used Macopener, it was specifically to be able to read Mac
>media (mac formatted disks)on a pc. If the actual files need
>conversion, I don't think it applies. If I had a bunch of files to
>move, I'd probably look at a way to fly them across over ethernet.
>
>Hoov
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>DJ wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
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>> We got Photoshop, Illustrator, Pagemaker and a bazillion other programs
>> today. some of them may not translate to the PC from the Mac without some
>> help.
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>> this same company has another program that incorporates Macopener with
the
>> ability to translate other files.........but I guess I'll find out tomorrow
>> if it's AMD compatible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> DJ
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>> "Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>> news:45d3df1c$1@linux...
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>>>What kind of files? Photoshop and Illustrator files are cross platform
as
>>>are almost all generic graphic file formats like jpg, gif, pict, bmp,
tiff
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78625 is a reply to message #78609] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 01:50 |
rick
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ess" the .paf to .wav convversions in either
pafwaveconvert oe wavelab? Man, this file-by-file thing is going to kill
me - I've got something like 150 projects to convert.
BTW, I still have some PARIS stuff for sale that never went -
MEC, 8-in, ADAT, C-16, cards, etc.I did this often in Wavelab 5.0. Make sure your .paf's are rendered
end -to-end with a 000:00:00 beginning point.
Deej
"deadmeat" <scott@postmodernblues.com> wrote in message
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> Hello all -
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> Is there any way to "batch process" the .paf to .wav convversions in
> either
> pafwaveconvert oe wavelab? Man, this file-by-file thing is going to kill
> me - I've got something like 150 projects to convert.
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> BTW, I still have some PARIS stuff for sale that never went -
> MEC, 8-in, ADAT, C-16, cards, etc.Thanks DJ - I just saw the batch option under Wavelab, which rules. One question,
though - I guess only the PAFWaveConvert utility alows you to interleave
2 mono PARIS files into a stereo wave file (nice feature for importing to
modern DAWs). Is there a way to get Wavelab to do the same?
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I did this often in Wavelab 5.0. Make sure your .paf's are rendered
>end -to-end with a 000:00:00 beginning point.
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78633 is a reply to message #78625] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 08:33 |
excelav
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> Maximum 3GB support
> 3 DDR DIMM Sockets
>
> Expansion Slots
> 5 PCI Slots
> 1 Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) Pro Slot
>
> System I/O
> 1 Floppy Disk Drive Connector
> 2 IDE Connectors (UltraDMA133/100/66 Support)
> 1 COM2 Header
> 1 Game port Connector
> 1 Infrared Connector
> 1 Panel Connector
> 1 SM Bus Connector
> USB Headers (Ports 5/6)
> Serial ATA Headers
> Modem Connector
> IEEE 1394 Headers
> S/PDIF Connector
> 1 PS/2 Mouse Connector (green)
> 1 PS/2 Keyboard Connector (purple)
> RJ45 Connector (3COM LAN Controller)
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>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Goodwin
>
> Process Engineering
> Pentech Assembly<Bump.> Got a couple of responses so far, so hurry if you're
interested.
"Neil" <IOUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>Just a few things I don't use much, so I'm thinking about
>either selling them or trading for something interesting...
>not necessarily Paris stuff (the only thing I think I could
>really use therein would be an 8-in module, blackface); might
>consider the following types of stuff in trade for one or more
>of the items I'm thinking about parting with, or if you really,
>really gotta have one of the items for cash, the cash prices are
>listed, as well. First, what I'd consider trading for:
>
>Mics (Upper echelon or something really cool & esoteric is what
>I'd be interested in, in this category)
>
>good mid-level "utility" pre or channel strip if it's something
>different in color than what I've already got).
>
>Dynamics (see above)
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>Instrument
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78648 is a reply to message #78633] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 08:31 |
rick
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hat you buy at least a couple Audix i5's
>>>>>>> instead... yes, I'm insisting - I won't let you do otherwise :)
>>>>>>> These things blow away 57's for guitar & snare, and plus you
>>>>>>> already have some 57's... GET SOME DIFFERENT VOICINGS GOING!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seriously - think about getting some different colors happening -
>>>>>>> what David said about going with only one MOTU Preamp set & one
>>>>>>> of another brand/tonality makes sense (I thought you already HAD
>>>>>>> the two MOTU boxes). Otherwise, you'd really be better off
>>>>>>> getting a halfway-decent small-format console (more
>>>>>>> routing/monitoring capabilities, plus all same-sounding preamps).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>No I haven't heard the Flux plugins - kind of hoping someone here has.
Maybe if we email them about the demo policy they might consider another
option. I'm sure it's to prevent demos from being cracked - and demoed by
too many people - gotta keep sales to a minimum ;-) Even if price wasn't a
consideration (for $600 it better be stunning), I have an aversion to paying
for a "demo" of a product that I may decide to can after 20 minutes.
The Roger Nichols plugs haven't come down have they? $299 for Inspector XL?
I think I paid $79 for it originally, and the interface looks much better on
the old version - more "pro". The new names also sound like a WWF ad -
something I would work hard to keep clients from seeing. I wasn't too
psyched about some of their plugins I tried back before RN, but they could
have their place - the sound fine, just the dynamics were difficult to get
reacting right, and really easy to trash a track with (though that can come
in handy too ;-).
I'm looking forward to giving the Sony plugins a spin though.
It is a good time for plugins - though the dongl
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78655 is a reply to message #78648] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 10:04 |
excelav
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>>> Sonalkis plugins are more authentic in their emulations.
>>>>
>>>> Just thought I'd share..
>>>
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>i tried it and it killed pluggoruntime 353 and both color and
phasetone. i'll try again today and see if i can get them back.
On 16 Feb 2007 13:55:11 +1000, "Gene Lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>I’ve been testing the beta in DP and Logic.
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>What DAW are you running it in?
>>
>>Gantt
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>>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@nospMyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>You know I'm a fan of TriTone plugs.
>>>AngelTone is out of beta and sounds great!
>>>
>>>http://www.tritonedigital.com/produc...products_id=31
>>AVG, Zone Alarm (firewall) Spy Sweeper and HijackThis for the other.
b 2007 12:03:23 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I'm building Amy a new graphics computer based around my old ASUS A8V-DLX
>mobo with an AMD dual core 4200 CPU and a couple gigs of RAM. I figure this
>should be quick enough for graphics work running Photoshop, Illustrator,
>Pagemaker, etc.
>
>I run Norton Systemworks on my office machine, but I'm sure this ain't the
>best in the world for a rig that needs to be quick. I'm looking for
>something that will run in the background and just do it's job without all
>of the crap that Norton does. She will be online with this machine so I want
>it well protected......and yes, she will be using IE so keeping that in
>mind, what's the best stuff to use?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Deej
>use the post office. it's half the cost and it ships via ups.
On 16 Feb 2007 14:17:29 +1000, "Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>Guys...
>I need to know the absolute cheapest way to ship my
>two MECs.
>I tried doing the UPS calculate shipping thing but it keeps
>defaulting to second day air rates.
>Sh*t I want the cheapest ground rates.
>Anyone that has shipped a MEC, could you please post what you
>paid for shippping if you recall and who you shipped with?
>
>THanks,
>byou can always send him an empty one 4/01/07...
On 16 Feb 2007 17:54:01 +1000, "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>MORE Behringer?
>
>When is your birthday? Because Christmas is too long to wait
>
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78665 is a reply to message #78655] |
Fri, 19 January 2007 10:26 |
rick
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erytime loading a song with DX waves plugins loaded...
>Unhandled exception c0000005 at adress: ......
>You know the picture...
>Now I am getting this when I try to reload a project after I have loaded
>succesfully the first time.
>I changed for that the disablepagingexecutive(1) and LargeSystemCache(1).
>The other strings I have put (that moght helped too) are on same registry
>place where the above are...
>How did you get around with these unhandled exceptions and when are you
getting
>it ?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Were you getting get an error message stating "C0000005" or something like
>
>>that ?
>>
>>and where do I find these two lines on my computer?
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>> IOPageLockLimit=0x00040000
>> Pagedpoolsize=0xfffffffS
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>>Don
>>
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>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45d55898$1@linux...
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>>> Hi,
>>> I seem to find that some xp tweaks can cause Paris either to run better
>or
>>> worse.
>>> The disablepagingexecutive(1) and LargeSystemCache(1) has helped me a
>lot
>>> with waves plugins sometimes crashing when loading a song containing
them
>>> in Paris.
>>> IOPageLockLimit=0x00040000
>>> Pagedpoolsize=0xfffffffS
>>> The above applies if you have some hefty memory like 1GB.
>>> Any findings that you wanna share here that can make Paris run more stable
>>> ?
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>
>>
>heh! yeah! that was what I was going for when I ran across this. One of my
processors only has AES I/O and I needed a way to be able to use it
digitally at 44.1 or to use it analog at higher sample rates. The Behringer
SRC is the only box I could find that I could afford that will allow this.
;o)
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:45d5b5b8$1@linux...
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> I figured out the analog way, it wasn't hard, although the cables cost
> almost
> 10 dollars each to make :-)
>
> Chuck
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I just figured out a relatively (as in , less $$$ than other ways I've
>>found) to digitally integrate an older outboard FX box with digital I/O
> that
>>will only work at 48kHz max sample rates with a DAW running at 88.2 or
>>96K.
>>
>>
>>
>Done,
thanks,,
Deej
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:45d5bcb3@linux...
> I've used it on my AMD opteron 64 bit chip, and I've pulled across a USB
> case on a DELL using MacOpener. Water is fine, hop in.
>
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45d3d646@linux...
>> http://www.dataviz.com/products/macopener/m
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78744 is a reply to message #78693] |
Sun, 21 January 2007 08:44 |
Deej [4]
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400+ and
>> nvidia geforce 2 video card. 1G Ultra ram.???? Never had these problems
>> with Paris on my P4 system.
>> Edna
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>> news:45d72875$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Root is not C:\E-MU\Paris Pro
>>> but C:\Paris Pro.
>>> Also DELETE the old folder in Program files because you might wrongly
>>> have
>>> the shortcut on you desktop refering to that !
>>> If the above don't help.
>>> Put inside your registry what I have posted in XP Paris tweaks...
>>> Regards,
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> "RiverLake Farms" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>>>Yes, installed to C:\E-MU\Paris Pro
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <sod@off.com> wrote in message news:45d71a54$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings.
>>>>> Have you installed chuck's effects subsystem fix (the one that
>>>>> comes with "wires" *and* made sure it is installed into the same
>>>>> directory you installed Paris into?
>>>>> Kim
>>>>>
>>>>> "RiverLake Farms" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Getting this error/crash everytime I close Paris and sometimes a
>>>>>>bluescreen
>>>>>
>>>>>>or loss of video resolution.
>>>>>>I have the card in slot 3, using the Matrox 450 video card. I also
>>>>>>reinstalled Paris(3.0) to the C root drive.
>>>>>>Any help appreciated.
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Edna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>
>Mainly, I've been wise to the Digi upgrade game for too long and I don't do
a daily production routine anymore to give Avid any more of my $$$. Paris is
still doing tonally what I need of it, and a 2nd native system covers the
workflow deficits.
AA
"Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving
> somewhere
> other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the move
> and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>
> DaveThanks Chris and Paul,
I have heard the Receptor is good for VSTi. The system I described is one I
have now. I was running Paris on it, but have moved Paris to an older
Barton XP 2500+ system so as to use the P4 for VSTis. I tried Akoustik
Piano on the older system and was not satisfied with the sound - mid range
and up was sort of thin and guitarish sounding.
Edna
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:45d805e1$1@linux...
> HI Edna,
> That should be a functional VSTi setup. You may have to disable
> hypertheading for some of the synths or recording software to work
> reliably.
> If you already own this system then fine but if yo9u are buying this as
> parts or prebuilt then I would say don't waste the money. :)
>
> At this point using more than 2 gigs of memory on XP 32 bit is all you
> should bother with. Anything abov
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| Re: OK the. Now I get it. [message #78770 is a reply to message #78762] |
Sun, 21 January 2007 20:47 |
Jamie K
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:daveg@knowledgextensions.com" target="_blank">daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
>> news:45d78282$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving
>>> somewhere
>>> other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the
>>> move
>>> and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>
>DJ wrote:
but I
> eventually wussed out because to go *completely* native would eventually
> have led to converting to Catholicism.
>
> ;o)
>
What kind of converters would you use for that? Hopefully not Behringer..
Talk about hellfire.. (ba doom boom..) :-)
Cheers,
TCChris,
I've been thinking of getting one of those little Presonus Firebox gizmo's
for Amy's new PC, just so she can plug in a guitar and mic and record a
vocal/guitar track to a click when she feels a song coming on. The thing
that appeals to me about this is that it is small/simple (at least appears
to be), has a couple of preamps and is bundled with Cubase SE so our
platforms are compatible and I can grab the project/tracks on the network
from the main DAW in the studio and import them.
Is the Presonus driver so shabby that it would not be usable for simple
stuff like this? She will be using my old DAW rig for her new graphics/music
computer. ASUS A8V-Dlx, AMD 64 4400x2 CPU 2G RAM on XP SP2. I figured the FW
port on this would probably handle simple two track recording.
Is there another simple and inexpensive (and better) 2 track recording
interface that is bundled with Cubase SE?
Thanks,
Deej
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
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> HI Brandon,
> Driver -
> Not all the routing features are available in the current drivers. You can
> at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in the
> internal routing control.
>
> Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
> dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
> Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the headphone
> channels.
> Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>
> If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues then the
> unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost every
> unit with some other device.
>
> The Focusrite Sapphire Pro is the only other in that price range with
> similar features. It doesn't have the routing features of the Presonus but
> has the same number of I/O.
>
> In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU and RME
> products.
>
> If the the budget is an issues then I would recommend.
>
> Any of these would work in that budget and give you the cuemix controls
> similar to Presonus and RME.
>
>
> 1x MOTU 8Pre
> 1x Presonus Digimax FS
> $1080.00
> This will give you 16 analog ins and 12 analog outs.
>
> or
>
> 2x MOTU 8 Pre - $1070.00
> This will give you 16 analog in 4 analog outs (8 if you count the
> seperate headphones)
> You will also have 16 channels of ADAT to use. So if you add 2 DigimaxFS
> to each of those you could have 32 analog ins and 24 outs.
>
>
> Chris
>
> Brandon wrote:
>
>>What kind of issues is the Presonus FireStudio having?
>>
>>
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>>
>>"brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
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>>>Well..I would like to be able to record an entire band at one time if
>>>neded.
>>>Inclding a live drumset.. Also Iwould like SPDIF in and out, ADAT, MANI
>>>OUS and HEADPHONE MIX OUTS for different headpone mix. As many mic pres
>>>
>>as
>>
>>>possible with 48v and pads.
>>>as many ous as possible. i dont use outs that much excep for monitoring
>>>
>>and
>>
>>>headphones, but I would like them for experimentation and new routing
>>>techniques
>>>in the future.
>>>all under$1200
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>HI Brandon,
>>>>Don't get it.
>>>>The firestudio is having lots of hardware issues. The MOTU 8 Pre will
>>>>give you 16 analog ins and 12 analog out when you have the Presonus
>>>>Digimax FS plugged into it.
>>>>
>>>>What features are you hoping to get in th eaudio interface your looking
>>>>
>>>>for?
>>>>How much I/O?
>>>>How many Mic -Pres?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>John,
>>>>>you are correct.
>>>>>My mistake I was looking at the Presonus FireStudio not the Digimax FS.
>>>>>Hmmm.. I might call Morgan and get the Presonus Fire Studio instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway thanks fo rthe heads up.
>>>>>b
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Brandon, the Digimax FS does not have firewire unless I'm missing
>>>>>>something. I have 3 of em. Also, a little trick about them......
>>>>>>You
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>have 8 pres but the first 2 are instrument level for plugging electric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>guitars/bass guitars into. If you plug line level in they will sound
>>>>>>
>>>>>>like shit (hissy) so you're down to 6 pres........but wait......If you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>your line ins into the INSERTS for 1 & 2 on the back all is perfect
>>>>>>again. They didn't document that and I had to call the company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regarding latency, i got the 9652 rme and have all 3 going in the
>>>>>>adats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>That's an expensive card $500 or so but I know latency is a big deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Since the digimax doesn't have firewire you have to adat in so you
>>>>>>really want a card on the motherboard to do that with I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Still learning,
>>>>>>John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Actually I think I will hook them both up via firewire directly
>>>>>>>to the comp. Then I will monitor thru the Presonus.
>>>>>>>It claims to have 0 latency. I will just have to test it both ways.
>>>>>>>
>>Either
>>
>>>>>>>way that should give me the ability to record 32 inputs at one time.
>>>>>>>
>>>16
>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>analog
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>and 16 ADAT plus midi.
>>>>>>>Dont know if the computer or firewire bandwidth can handle recordin
>>>>>>>
>>gthat
>>
>>>>>>>many tracks at once but the hardware capability is there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For now it is going to be:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cubase SX3
>>>>>>>>1 MOTU 8 pre (via Firewire)
>>>>>>>>1 Presonus Digimax FS (linked to MOTU via ADAT)
>>>>>>>>2 DBX 586 preamps
>>>>>>>>Monitors my Mackie 824s
>>>>>>>>ASUS MB A7N8X-Deluxe E
>>>>>>>>Windows XP
>>>>>>>>XP3000+ CPU
>>>>>>>>2G Ram
>>>>>>>>1 10k rpm
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Mon, 22 January 2007 08:18 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
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>>
>>>>>>>>>again. They didn't document that and I had to call the company.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Regarding latency, i got the 9652 rme and have all 3 going in the
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>adats.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>That's an expensive card $500 or so but I know latency is a big
>>>>>>>>>deal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Since the digimax doesn't have firewire you have to adat in so you
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>really want a card on the motherboard to do that with I think.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Still learning,
>>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Actually I think I will hook them both up via firewire directly
>>>>>>>>>>to the comp. Then I will monitor thru the Presonus.
>>>>>>>>>>It claims to have 0 latency. I will just have to test it both
>>>>>>>>>>ways.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Either
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>way that should give me the ability to record 32 inputs at one
>>>>>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>16
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>analog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and 16 ADAT plus midi.
>>>>>>>>>>Dont know if the computer or firewire bandwidth can handle
>>>>>>>>>>recordin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>gthat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>many tracks at once but the hardware capability is there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>For now it is going to be:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cubase SX3
>>>>>>>>>>>1 MOTU 8 pre (via Firewire)
>>>>>>>>>>>1 Presonus Digimax FS (linked to MOTU via ADAT)
>>>>>>>>>>>2 DBX 586 preamps
>>>>>>>>>>>Monitors my Mackie 824s
>>>>>>>>>>>ASUS MB A7N8X-Deluxe E
>>>>>>>>>>>Windows XP
>>>>>>>>>>>XP3000+ CPU
>>>>>>>>>>>2G Ram
>>>>>>>>>>>1 10k rpm OS drive
>>>>>>>>>>>1 10k rpm Audio drive
>>>>>>>>>>>1 7200 rpm maxtor for the OS temp file only. (would I be better
>>
>> off
>>
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>out this?)
>>>>>>>>>>>1 firewire card w/TI chipset
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What is your setup going to be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well my entire PARIS rig is on its way to Connect-icut.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>New gear on its way..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been watchinbg the Cubase tutorials and man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that softwaer has tons of functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stuff I used to dream of and dint know really existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Very cool stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I got a Firewire card and a memory upgrade on the way too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am excited to get into it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I will let you all know how it is going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>ADK
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>
>>>
>>The only way I know of to bus one signal to two places at
one time is by using the sends on a track as well as the
output bus. Past that, you may actually have to use
TotalCrap. ;-)
David.
DJ wrote:
> I'm just starting to try to get my head around this. I think it's going to
> have to happen somehow in totalmix but I'm not sure. I use the Furman HDS16
> with HRM 16 remotes. I have each of the remotes paired with an Alesis Wedge
> which patches into the remotes via the remote send/return I/O and, IMHO (and
> every person's "O" that has used this) sounds great for tracking with some
> 'verb in the cans.
>
> soooo.......I need somehow to set up a bussing template. I could set up
> stereo busses in Cubase 4 with outputs assigned to analog my D/A's so that I
> could assign one or more tracks to any bus and have that bus routed to the
> HDS 16. My brain stops working when I get to the part where the entire mix
> is sent to the HDS 16 stereo input bus.
>
> Basically, what I need to be able to do is to bus a mono track to a mono
> input of the HDS 17 while that same mono track is assigned to a stereo us
> which is being output to a stereo input of the HDS16 and then all stereo
> busses of the mix are also bussed to the main mix inputs of the HDS16.
>
> This would have to involve Totalmix so I'm girding my loins for the learning
> curve. Once I get this sussed, it's going to be templated forever.
>
> Arrrrrggghhhh.........just watch...........I'll figure out a way.........
>
>
> I agree about the kludge factor
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:45d8a46d@linux...
>
>>I would stick with the 8Pre/FS set-up and add an outboard mixer. I will
>>detail after the following....
>>
>><RANT>
>>
>>I preface this by saying, I started off in this industry "old school",
>>with open reel tape machines and large format consoles. So, take this with
>>a bit of salt....
>>
>>The thing that really sticks in my craw with DAW's is Cue mixing. No one
>>has been able to create an elegant way of managing multiple cue mixes
>>without an external control surface mapped to Aux buses. With Cub/Nu you
>>have to create output buses, then go to each and every track to assign the
>>track to the bus, then turn them on. After all the assigning and clicking
>>about, you then have to go back through each track to adjust the send
>>levels... Rubbish! That is too much time consuming mousing around. Even
>>if you spend the time and create "template projects" you are still faced
>>with the arduous task of "select track, adjust send, select next track,
>>adjust send..." These developers need to create proper cue mix buses that
>>default to "all on" and that can be controlled from dedicated cue mix
>>windows with fader, pan, source select (pre/post EQ or inserts) and a few
>>send buses for FX while tracking. You should then be able to switch
>>easily between mixes while in the cue mix window. You could then mouse
>>around with the *entire cue mix* from one point without having to switch
>>windows. These software develo
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Mon, 22 January 2007 08:22 |
duncan
Messages: 123
Registered: November 2006
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pers have obviously never worked a session
>>with 20 to 30 inputs (or more) and 4 or more stereo cue mixes spanning
>>several rooms... Even PTHD sucks at this without a controller.
>>
>></RANT>
>>
>>So, with an external mixer like a 16ch A&H MixWizard, you could route all
>>16 outs from your D/A's to the 16 inputs on the mixer. You then have
>>"knobs" in front of you for up to 4 mono cue mixes, FX while tracking, and
>>"faders" to adjust your monitoring mix. All this using "direct
>>monitoring" for no latency. Will you have mix recall capability... No.
>>Will you be able to create a rough mix ITB while tracking... No. It WILL
>>save you hours of grief and frustration, and the musicians can get on with
>>creating music instead of waiting for you to create their mixes. This,
>>IMHO, is the ONLY way to work if you are dealing with full bands on a
>>regular basis. Even with Paris, I used the main mix as my cue mix, and
>>offered only a single HP mix.
>>
>>This is one of the main reasons we purchased the DM2K for the studio,
>>comprehensive cue mixing, digital routing between computers and
>>pres/convertors, and (bonus) saving of all settings with the project
>>through the Studio Manager software built into Nuendo.
>>
>>Anyway, that's my $2.45... ;-)
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Brandon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Chris,
>>>Thaks for th heads up.
>>>I checked out the presonus forum and there is a lot of disappointment
>>>over
>>>there for sure.
>>>I particularlt dont like the CPU spiking with no apps open.
>>>I will steer clear from this one until they get their drivers straightend
>>>out. Man how can they sell that thing in that condition. I would be
>>>pissed.
>>>I am going with the original setup I posted and you suggested.
>>>1 motu 8 pre and 1 presonus digimax FS.
>>>Maybe later after they fix th presonus firestudio I will trade in the
>>>Digimax
>>>to get it.
>>>Thx b
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Chris,
>>>>
>>>>I've been thinking
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Mon, 22 January 2007 17:08 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
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use. Before I change
> everything
> back any suggestion.Now you have my curiosity up. Why no Sonar?
AA
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:45da334e$1@linux...
> Hi David,
>
> For firewire interfaces. These are ones I've used and know sound good and
> work.
>
> They are all cross platform. In no particular order.
>
>
> Focusrite Saffire LE
> Focusrite Saffire Pro 26i/o
> Presonus Firepod
> TC Electronic Konnekt 24D (it has issues with Cakewalk Sonar)
> MOTU 828
> MOTU 8pre
> MOTU 896
> RME Fireface 400
> RME Fireface 800
>
> (RME and MOTU would be the top 2 for sound quality with the the TC in a
> close 3rd)
>
> If it's not on the list then I probably have had problems with and don't
> feel like ranting...:)
>
>
> Software -
>
> Cross platform -
> Steinberg Cubase 4
> Ableton Live 6
>
> PC -
> Magix Samplitude Professional
>
>
> Apple-
>
> Apple Logic
>
> MOTU Digital performer
>
>
>
> laptops -
>
> ADK 1Q (shameless plug)
> or
> Apple Mac Book pro
>
>
> David Evan wrote:
>> hey everybody,
>> it's been a while since i've been here. still using paris but about to
>> sell
>> everything (i may keep paris so that in ten years when suddenly,
>> everybody's
>> drooling for that great, "vintage paris sound" i'll sell it and retire).
>> i
>> have mics, pres, racks, etc. i'm selling it because i'm about to move
>> out
>> of my home and live a life of touring on the road. so, i need to get a
>> laptop and a mobile recording setup for recording simple demos on the
>> road.
>> i'm keeping one at4050 for vocals, and am planning to get a rode nt4 for
>> stereo micing my ac. guit. any suggestions about programs and firewire
>> micpre interfaces?
>>
>> thanks!
>> -david evan
>> www.myspace.com/davidevanmusic
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.comHI Aaron,
The ASIO driver has a some compatibility issues with Sonar which both
companies are aware and supposedly dealing with .
Cakewalk has their own "unique way of ASIO support.
Chris
Aaron Allen wrote:
>Now you have my curiosity up. Why no Sonar?
>AA
>
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:45da334e$1@linux...
>
>
>>Hi David,
>>
>>For firewire interfaces. These are ones I've used and know sound good and
>>work.
>>
>>They are all cross platform. In no particular order.
>>
>>
>>Focusrite Saffire LE
>>Focusrite Saffire Pro 26i/o
>>Presonus Firepod
>>TC Electronic Konnekt 24D (it has issues with Cakewalk Sonar)
>>MOTU 828
>>MOTU 8pre
>>MOTU 896
>>RME Fireface 400
>>RME Fireface 800
>>
>>(RME and MOTU would be the top 2 for sound quality with the the TC in a
>>close 3rd)
>>
>>If it's not on the list then I probably have had problems with and don't
>>feel like ranting...:)
>>
>>
>>Software -
>>
>>Cross platform -
>>Steinberg Cubase 4
>>Ableton Live 6
>>
>>PC -
>>Magix Samplitude Professional
>>
>>
>>Apple-
>>
>>Apple Logic
>>
>>MOTU Digital performer
>>
>>
>>
>>laptops -
>>
>>ADK 1Q (shameless plug)
>>or
>>Apple Mac Book pro
>>
>>
>>David Evan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>hey everybody,
>>>it's been a while since i've been here. still using paris but about to
>>>sell
>>>everything (i may keep paris so that in ten years when suddenly,
>>>everybody's
>>>drooling for that great, "vintage paris sound" i'll sell it and retire).
>>>i
>>>have mics, pres, racks, etc. i'm selling it because i'm about to move
>>>out
>>>of my home and live a life of touring on the road. so, i need to get a
>>>laptop and a mobile recording setup for recording simple demos on the
>>>road.
>>>i'm keeping one at4050 for vocals, and am planning to get a rode nt4 for
>>>stereo micing my ac. guit. any suggestions about programs and firewire
>>>micpre interfaces?
>>>
>>>thanks!
>>>-david evan
>>>www.myspace.com/davidevanmusic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762HI Thad,
If you have a compatible firewire chipset the Firebox works great.
Chris
TCB wrote:
>I've had a Firebox for a while and have only ever had problems with it when
>using it as what we used to call a wave device, i.e. using it as a system
>sound device. The ASIO driver has been rock solid for me, using the on board
>firewire on a Dell laptop.
>
>TCB
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>>HI DJ,
>>The firebox sounds and generally works well but does have some firewire
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>chipset compatibility issues.
>>I'd recommend using a Firewire PCI card for any audio interfaces on the
>>
>>
>A8V.
>
>
>>You should also check out the Focusrite Sapphire LE or the TC Konnekt4D
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>all it he same price range.
>>Sonically they all sound better than the M-Audio FW410. The TC Konnect
>>series have a pair of excellent Mic-Pres but has issues with Sonar.
>>Works great with Cubase, Samp, Reaper, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>I've been thinking of getting one of those little Presonus Firebox gizmo's
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>for Amy's new PC, just so she can plug in a guitar and mic and record a
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>vocal/guitar track to a click when she feels a song coming on. The thing
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>that appeals to me about this is that it is small/simple (at least appears
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>to be), has a couple of preamps and is bundled with Cubase SE so our
>>>platforms are compatible and I can grab the project/tracks on the network
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>from the main DAW in the studio and import them.
>>
>>
>>>Is the Presonus driver so shabby that it would not be usable for simple
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>stuff like this? She will be using my old DAW rig for her new graphics/music
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>computer. ASUS A8V-Dlx, AMD 64 4400x2 CPU 2G RAM on XP SP2. I figured the
>>>
>>>
>FW
>
>
>>>port on this would probably handle simple two track recording.
>>>
>>>Is there another simple and inexpensive (and better) 2 track recording
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>interface that is bundled with Cubase SE?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45d88fac$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>HI Brandon,
>>>>Driver -
>>>>Not all the routing features are available in the current drivers. You
>>>>
>>>>
>can
>
>
>>>>at the moment only use the analog and the first bank of adat in the
>>>>internal routing control.
>>>>
>>>>Every unit we've gotten so far has had hardware issues.
>>>>dead or abnormally noisy inputs or outputs.
>>>>Weird zippering sounds when using the mic gain and also the headphone
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>>>>channels.
>>>>Grounding noise and buzzing units.
>>>>
>>>>If they work out some of these mechanical and or drivers issues then the
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>>>>unit will be a great device but so far I've had to replace almost every
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>>>>unit with some other device.
>>>>
>>>>The Focusrite Sapphire Pro is the only other in that price range with
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>>>>similar features. It doesn't have the routing features of the Presonus
>>>>
>>>>
>but
>
>
>>>>has the same number of I/O.
>>>>
>>>>In the long run I think you really better off going with the MOTU and
>>>>
>>>>
>RME
>
>
>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>If the the budget is an issues then I would recommend.
>>>>
>>>>Any of these would work in that budget and give you the cuemix controls
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>>>>similar to Presonus and RME.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1x MOTU 8Pre
>>>>1x Presonus Digimax FS
>>>>$1080.00
>>>>This will give you 16 analog ins and 12 analog outs.
>>>>
>>>>or
>>>>
>>>>2x MOTU 8 Pre - $1070.00
>>>>This will give you 16 analog in 4 analog outs (8 if you count the
>>>>seperate headphones)
>>>>You will also have 16 channels of ADAT to use. So if you add 2 DigimaxFS
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>>>>to each of those you could have 32 analog ins and 24 outs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Chris
>>>>
>>>>Brandon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
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Mon, 22 January 2007 20:14 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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gt;>>>Either
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>way that should give me the ability to record 32 inputs at one
time.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>16
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>analog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>and 16 ADAT plus midi.
>>>>>>>>>>Dont know if the computer or firewire bandwidth can handle recordin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>gthat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>many tracks at once but the hardware capability is there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>For now it is going to be:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cubase SX3
>>>>>>>>>>>1 MOTU 8 pre (via Firewire)
>>>>>>>>>>>1 Presonus Digimax FS (linked to MOTU via ADAT)
>>>>>>>>>>>2 DBX 586 preamps
>>>>>>>>>>>Monitors my Mackie 824s
>>>>>>>>>>>ASUS MB A7N8X-Deluxe E
>>>>>>>>>>>Windows XP
>>>>>>>>>>>XP3000+ CPU
>>>>>>>>>>>2G Ram
>>>>>>>>>>>1 10k rpm OS drive
>>>>>>>>>>>1 10k rpm Audio drive
>>>>>>>>>>>1 7200 rpm maxtor for the OS temp file only. (would I be better
>off
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>out this?)
>>>>>>>>>>>1 firewire card w/TI chipset
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What is your setup going to be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well my entire PARIS rig is on its way to Connect-icut.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>New gear on its way..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I have been watchinbg the Cubase tutorials and man
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that softwaer has tons of functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stuff I used to dream of and dint know really existed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Very cool stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I got a Firewire card and a memory upgrade on the way too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am excited to get into it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I will let you all know how it is going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>>>>ADK
>>>>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>>ADK
>>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>Stable on my quad and on my MacBook Pro. Not as stable on my previous dual
2 G5.
I also run ValveTone and it has been a little touchier than HydraTone for
me as well but it has been ok since I increased my computer power.
Gene
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>Thanks Gene. I actually think I've got something else going on with
>ValveTone. The processor meter in DP doesn't show over loading anyway. I'll
>open ValveTone in a project and everything will work fine. Then the next
>time I open the project, it will lock up and through trial and error I've
>traced it back to ValveTone. I have to actually remove ValveTone from my
>plug-ins folder, open the project, remove the disabled ValveTone insert,
and
>re-save. It's strange, because it seems to happen rather randomly. I don't
>have this problem with ColorTone at all. Anyway, I don't mean to bother
you
>with the details. I know you're not TriTone support. I was just wondering
if
>AngelTone and HydraTone seemed pretty stable for you in DP. Thanks for the
>info.
>
>Tony
>Hey Chris,
Does the Apogee mini-me USB qualify as rant worthy? Oh, sorry, fire wire...
Jim
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi David,
>
>For firewire interfaces. These are ones I've used and know sound good
>and work.
>
>They are all cross platform. In no particular order.
>
>
>Focusrite Saffire LE
>Focusrite Saffire Pro 26i/o
>Presonus Firepod
>TC Electronic Konnekt 24D (it has issues with Cakewalk Sonar)
>MOTU 828
>MOTU 8pre
>MOTU 896
>RME Fireface 400
>RME Fireface 800
>
>(RME and MOTU would be the top 2 for sound quality with the the TC in a
>close 3rd)
>
>If it's not on the list then I probably have had problems with and don't
>feel like ranting...:)
>
>
>Software -
>
>Cross platform -
>Steinberg Cubase 4
>Ableton Live 6
>
>PC -
>Magix Samplitude Professional
>
>
>Apple-
>
>Apple Logic
>
>MOTU Digital performer
>
>
>
>laptops -
>
>ADK 1Q (shameless plug)
>or
>Apple Mac Book pro
>
>
>David Evan wrote:
>> hey everybody,
>> it's been a while since i've been here. still using paris but about to
sell
>> everything (i may keep paris so that in ten years when suddenly, everybody's
>> drooling for that great, "vintage paris sound" i'll sell it and retire).
i
>> have mics, pres, racks, etc. i'm selling it because i'm about to move
out
>> of my home and live a life of touring on the road. so, i need to get
a
>> laptop and a mobile recording setup for recording simple demos on the
road.
>> i'm keeping one at4050 for vocals, and am planning to get a rode nt4 for
>> stereo micing my ac. guit. any suggestions about programs and firewire
>> micpre interfaces?
>>
>> thanks!
>> -david evan
>> www.myspace.com/davidevanmusic
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.comHI Thad,
The main issues they have with the Firebox have to do with their choice
of 1394 chip they as well a bunch other manufacturers use. There some
combo firewire /pcmicia and or card reader chipset by Ricoh and ENE and
well as some firewire 400/800 combo chip sets that have recently started
to be used in the majority of mid and low priced laptops. Especially
ones that have a combination or card bus/ express slot. Presonus are
working on driver updates to possibly fix these compatibilty issues. The
issues with the fire studio are not the same as what is happening with
fireboxes. We've actually sent some laptops to them so they can
hopefully improve the issues. We supply them with systems for trade
shows and for their developers to use already. ASUS, Clevo, Dell and
probably others have models that use these Ricoh chip sets. The only
reason we came across this is when we were trying to find white boxes we
could still sell that had card bus. All the ones we could still get
suffered from having these chip sets. Sense RME is the only company
still making a card bus and will be replacing it soon with a express
version we decided it wasn't worth the effort. RME and other make
firewire devices that work as well or better than the RME card bus units.
The Ricoh firewire/card bus combo chip sets will have performance issues
with card bus devices such as the RME as well as Firewire devices.
End users will almost always tend to assume it is drivers or the
Operating Systems that are at fault.
PS- Can you please overnight me a large pepperoni and sausage pizza from
Pepe's. The supposedly "best" Pizza down here is about as good as in a
High School cafeteria . :)
Chris
TCB wrote:
>But there seems to be this general opinion that there is something 'wrong'
>with the driver in all cases. Needing to have the right chipset for an esoteric
>third party add-on is a mild pain and something that should be known, but
>the idea that the Presonus gear doesn't work correctly or has 'bad drivers'
>is just bosh. I'm not saying you were implying this, but I've started to
>hear/read that in various places.
>
>TCB
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I've had a Firebox for a while and have only ever had problems with it when
>>using it as what we used to call a wave device, i.e. using it as a system
>>sound device. The ASIO driver has been rock solid for me, using the on board
>>firewire on a Dell laptop.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>HI DJ,
>>>The firebox sounds and generally works well but does have some firewire
>>>
>>>
>>>chipset compatibility issues.
>>>I'd recommend using a Firewire PCI card for any audio interfaces on the
>>>
>>>
>>A8V.
>>
>>
>>>You should also check out the Focusrite Sapphire LE or the TC Konnekt4D
>>>
>>>
>>>all it he same price range.
>>>Sonically they all sound better than the M-Audio FW410. The TC Konnect
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>series have a pair of excellent Mic-Pres but has issues with Sonar.
>>>Works great with Cubase, Samp, Reaper, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>DJ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Chris,
>>>>
>>>>I've been thinking of getting one of those little Presonus Firebox gizmo's
>>>>
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