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quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96365] Wed, 27 February 2008 22:52 Go to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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> wrote:
>> You should really think about what your doing John.
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> that wasn't very nice Jimmy
>>>
>>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>>> Good! See ya!
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIUOUI@OUI.com> wrote:
>>>>> Don't know what happened, who placed the straw that broke the
>>>>> camel's back, but in case you haven't noticed it, this newsgroup
>>>>> is now officially dead meat/jumped the shark/gone off the deep
>>>>> end.
>>>>>
>>>>> For anyone who would like to keep in touch with me to chat
>>>>> about anything music or recording-related, my e-mail address is:
>>>>>
>>>>> neil DOT hen
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Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96374 is a reply to message #96365] Thu, 28 February 2008 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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ess fix, except by
>taking a trip down memory lane. :)
>
>
>
> How else can you explain how, for years, people would
>> In recent times I have only post information about what's going on with
>>MS, you read the articles and you decide. I've tried to lay off, but I
>think
>>Vista is a debacle right now, I'm sure MS will fix it in time.
>>
>>I see Mac OSX being a better alternative to Vista right now, and you can
>>build a dual quad core for about $600.00 to run it. I've wanted to post
>>about it specifically for you, but I didn't because I thought you would
>take
>>it wrong and be insulted buy my suggestion, and I thought it would start
>>a bunch of shit. You see, I feel I can no longer post anything that is
>mac
>>related with out being attacked. Have you seen me attack every post that
>>is MS or Vista related recently?
>>
>>Don't forget I also use Windows XP also, not just Macs.
>
>
>I know that.
>
>
>>
>>I think SOME people should consider what they post, things have gotten
personal
>>and insulting. Have you seen Dedric around here in a while? Someone basically
>>called him a racist, he's out of here!
>
>All of us should think where this
>>is going. We all have something to contribute to the NG. some people may
>>not be in to the Mac stuff, but they don't have to jump in and comment
on
>>it if it doesn't concern them. It's not once in a while, it's every time.
>> The Mac bashing and the mocking needs to stop!
>
>
>If they'd just come down on their RAM prices and I could slap that little
>smartass in the commercial around once or twice, I'd probably like Macs
again.
>
>;)
>
>
>
You once said you won't use a mac because you can't tweak it. There are
guys that are running 2.4 GHz Q6600 hackintoshs machines and are over-clocking
them to 3.3GHz and there stable. I'm sure you don't care, and that's fine,
I just thought I'd mention it.
As you have said, you'll nev
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96375 is a reply to message #96374] Thu, 28 February 2008 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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er use a Mac, that's fine by me! As I've said,
use what works for you.James, You may get your way where you live by throwing a tantrum and acting
the bully but you won't get it with me so you can give up now. My Starbucks
Committed was just a joke and I can't believe you don't seem to be able to
see that and take it as that. As DJ said so well,
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96376 is a reply to message #96374] Thu, 28 February 2008 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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we don't give a shit
about Macs or PCs. We are not in love with them and don't feel any connection
to them so we will bash away on either any time we like.

This channel has been around for many years and you have the nerve to come
in here and start threatening people and pushing your arrogance around.
It may work in some mac channel but it won't work here. Kim may even ban
you if you keep it up.

Now chill out.
John http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GWYaviIzCU&feature=relat ed

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.onlyinhous ton.org/attachments/wysiwyg/571/Image/whymacssuck.jpg&im grefurl=http://www.onlyinhouston.org/en/cms/%3F1799&h=24 0&w=320&sz=45&hl=en&start=14&sig2=Zwx9ox BhiaYSOtnZGrdOvg&tbnid=LL2V1zyvicYNAM:&tbnh=89&t bnw=118&ei=ypAdSJOZDpq0eruYlOsL&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dm acs%2Bsuck%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DGnow that's a freaking URL !http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7381646.stmhttp://tinyurl.com/6gssmcspeaking of suckage. My laptop on xp uses 600 MB of ram after boot up and
the process page is useless at identifying what apps are using it all. For
example, my activclient dod cac card authenticator has at least 8 separate
processes/services running eating up ram.

I don't think there is a solution now but I wish there was a way to clearly
show me what apps are using what memory. On my stripped down pc I can install
XP with SP2 and only use 150mb ram. It kills me to see 450mb ram go to antivirus
crap and authentication crap.

Oh well, maybe one day they will make it so I can actually control this beast.

Jyou have news in canada??? i thought we controlled that here in the
great white south...another myth shattered...sigh

On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:03:39 -0400, "Rob Arsenault"
<mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:

>Same here Don..
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96378 is a reply to message #96376] Thu, 28 February 2008 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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>>>
>>>Oh well, maybe one day they will make it so I can actually control this
>>beast.
>>>
>>>J
>>
>>Quit f**king with that pice of shit and get a Mac! Lol!
>Parallels is incredibly impressive. John

"the other guy" <whocares@iknow.com> wrote:
>
>You can run XP on the new Macs and still use the pc apps you have.
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I wish I had started with a mac, then I wouldn't have all these pc apps
>that
>>i would die without, because I know pretty much the same stuff is available
>>on both.
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>speaking of suckage. My laptop on xp uses 600 MB of ram after boot up
>>and
>>>>the process page is useless at identifying what apps are using it all.
>>
>>>For
>>>>example, my activclient dod cac card authenticator has at least 8 separate
>>>>processes/services running eating up ram.
>>>>
>>>>I don't think there is a solution now but I wish there was a way to clearly
>>>>show me what apps are using what memory. On my stripped down pc I can
>>install
>>>>XP with SP2 and only use 150mb ram. It kills me to see 450mb ram go
to
>>>antivirus
>>>>crap and authentication crap.
>>>>
>>>>Oh well, maybe one day they will make it so I can actually control this
>>>beast.
>>>>
>>>>J
>>>
>>>Quit f**king with that pice of shit and get a Mac! Lol!
>>
>"the other guy" <whocares@iknow.com> wrote:
>
>You can run XP on the new Macs and still use the pc apps you have.

Don't tell him that! ; )
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I wish I had started with a mac, then I wouldn't have all these pc apps
>that
>>i would die without, because I know pretty much the same stuff is available
>>on both.
>>
>>John
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>speaking of suckage. My laptop on xp uses 600 MB of ram after boot up
>>and
>>>>the process page is useless at identifying what apps are using it all.
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96396 is a reply to message #96374] Thu, 28 February 2008 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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s here:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>
> David.
>
>
> D-unit wrote:
>> Could someone direct me to any links that help with
>> this setup? I recall there being a few thing that had
>> to be done correctly to make it work.
>>
>> Thanks very much.
>>
>> db<--very slow to upgrade OS's
>>Your wish is my command!

http://www.drumcircles.net/drumjokes.html

;-)

David.

Don Nafe wrote:
> What a memory!
>
> Way to go Dave!
>
> Now get off topic will ya!
>
> neener neener
>
> D
>
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:481f84cc$1@linux...
>> Hey,
>>
>> http://www.parisfaqs.com/
>>
>> Most of the way down the page there is a link that goes here:
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
>> D-unit wrote:
>>> Could someone direct me to any links that help with
>>> this setup? I recall there being a few thing that had
>>> to be done correctly to make it work.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much.
>>>
>>> db<--very slow to upgrade OS's
>>>
>excellent!


"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:481f9274$1@linux...
> Your wish is my command!
>
> http://www.drumcircles.net/drumjokes.html
>
> ;-)
>
> David.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>> What a memory!
>>
>> Way to go Dave!
>>
>> Now get off topic will ya!
>>
>> neener neener
>>
>> D
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:481f84cc$1@linux...
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> http://www.parisfaqs.com/
>>>
>>> Most of the way down the page there is a link that goes here:
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>
>>> D-unit wrote:
>>>> Could someone direct me to any links that help with
>>>> this setup? I recall there being a few thing that had
>>>> to be done correctly to make it work.
>>>>
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96397 is a reply to message #96376] Thu, 28 February 2008 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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/> >>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> db<--very slow to upgrade OS's
>>>>
>>EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Your wish is my command!
>
>http://www.drumcircles.net/drumjokes.html
>
>;-)
>
>David.

How do you know when your singer is knocking at your door? He can never
find his key and he always comes in at the wrong time.
>
>Don Nafe wrote:
>> What a memory!
>>
>> Way to go Dave!
>>
>> Now get off topic will ya!
>>
>> neener neener
>>
>> D
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:481f84cc$1@linux...
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> http://www.parisfaqs.com/
>>>
>>> Most of the way down the page there is a link that goes here:
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96398 is a reply to message #96375] Thu, 28 February 2008 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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> >>> D-unit wrote:
>>>> Could someone direct me to any links that help with
>>>> this setup? I recall there being a few thing that had
>>>> to be done correctly to make it work.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> db<--very slow to upgrade OS's
>>>>
>>I gave a lesson to a guy that has one of these. It was interesting but I
didn't have a chance to really spend time w/ it. There's a bit of discussion
about it here:

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=267882

Gantt

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96401 is a reply to message #96378] Thu, 28 February 2008 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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real-time feedback.
>
>I want one. Take a look.
>
>DC
>In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in the
recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or hope
to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:

http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122

They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck software
that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training in
using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which might
work...

Any thoughts?

GanttThere is a guy I know who is supposed to be getting one
soon. Hopefully, I can try his out. Hate to buy it to try it...

!!!


DC

"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I gave a lesson to a guy that has one of these. It was interesting but
I
>didn't have a chance to really spend time w/ it. There's a bit of discussion
>about it here:
>
>http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=267882
>
>Gantt
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Ok, you guys seen this?
>>
>>This is an amazing tool especially for recording guitars direct.
>>
>>http://www.fractalaudio.com/
>>
>>This is a revolution in processing and quality for amp emulators and FX.
>>This guy has really good ears and this box finally starts to deliver on
>the
>>promise of amp modeling and the FX are stellar.
>>
>>Cliff regularly releases updates and posts of several forums, so the
>>product gets almost real-time feedback.
>>
>>I want one. Take a look.
>>
>>DC
>>
>Can't comment on that system, but I did some forensic
work for a murder trial using Sonic Solutions once to
try to bring some voices up that may have been the
defendant. Fun stuff! and very challenging at times.

if you get into it, let us know how it works out for you.

DC


"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in the
>recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
>forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or hope
>to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>
> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>
>They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck software
>that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training in
>using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
>that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which might
>work...
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>GanttIsn't that a competitor to Intelligent Devices' "Speech Extraction System"?

This would indeed be a "life's little ironies" moment.

- K

On 5/5/08 5:33 PM, in article 481fa76b$<
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96402 is a reply to message #96401] Thu, 28 February 2008 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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a href="mailto:1@linux" target="_blank">1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
<ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in the
> recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
> forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or hope
> to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>
> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>
> They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck software
> that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training in
> using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP laptop
> that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which might
> work...
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Gantt....Sounds like somebody summoning the 'Wizard'



...."the ogres and the elves are always chatting me up"




El Miguel (an apple a day keeps ubuntu away :-:p)



"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:481b6b95$1@linux...
>
> You all ever notice how when some of us act like morons and
> go anonymous and prance around like drag queens in our
> new little personas, how we work HARD on changing
> our grammar and syntax?
>
> and others?
>
>
>
> well
>
>
> do not?
>
>
> Yeah, me too...
>
>
> DC
>Hey Miguel,

Nice to see you still around. I should have kept out of all
that, but I always think we can do better.

I foresee a brighter future though!

How you been?

DC


"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>...Sounds like somebody summoning the 'Wizard'
>
>
>
>..."the ogres and the elves are always chatting me up"
>
>
>
>
>El Miguel (an apple a day keeps ubuntu away :-:p)
>
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:481b6b95$1@linux...
>>
>> You all ever notice how when some of us act like morons and
>> go anonymous and prance around like drag queens in our
>> new little personas, how we work HARD on changing
>> our grammar and syntax?
>>
>> and others?
>>
>>
>>
>> well
>>
>>
>> do not?
>>
>>
>> Yeah, me too...
>>
>>
>> DC
>>
>
>The very first thing I did when I began researching this stuff was to email
ID to ask about their law enforcement software. I got no response.

Go figure.

Gantt

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Isn't that a competitor to Intelligent Devices' "Speech Extraction System"?
>
>This would indeed be a "life's little ironies" moment.
>
>- K
>
>On 5/5/08 5:33 PM, in article 481fa76b$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
><ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in
the
>> recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an audio
>> forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or
hope
>> to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>>
>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>>
>> They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the m
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96409 is a reply to message #96402] Fri, 29 February 2008 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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ed well in creating a group of people who are open and
> honest with each other, but recently we've struggled with a lot of this stuff.
>
> I'm also half pondering creation of a Paris NG usage policy of some sort,
> which gives a guide to decorum and approach which is expected. That's just
> food for thought at the moment.
>
> Right now however I just want to ask that everybody chill out. Resist that
> temptation to post back your witty retort to whoever you thought was out
> of line. Let it sit for a bit.
>
> What's more important to me right now than anything is getting some positive
> input into the group, and I think we have heard enough of the arguments for
> a bit. So I'll ask you all, for a couple of days at least:
>
> (*) If it's an argument, just let it go. I don't care if your comment is
> arguably warranted. What's warranted more is some peace and harmony in the
> group.
>
> (*) Think of something On Topic to post. New music software or plug info.
> An instrument you're planning to buy. Whatever.
>
> Later today I hope to clear off some of these messy threads and we can pretend
> it never happened for a bit. Let's see the group become a little more of
> a community again. If there's one thing everybody agrees on it's that there's
> too much discord, so let's simply avoid it for a bit.
>
> I'll rename the groups, and we'll look at some kind of guide to group behaviour
> perhaps.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Say.. speaking of... Does anyone know what happened to the White House tapes
that SSC was going to bid working on?

AA


"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:b9hv149tp4cfjb3k79s1pffuiusljs0ma4@4ax.com...
> Gantt -
>
> I would give Edmund a call and see if you can catch him personally. I
> haven't talked to him since SSC passed, but I meant to get in touch
> and see if there were any opportunities at ID for trainers. Steve was
> doing a good bit of that before his accident, so there might be
> something there for you if you were interested.
>
> SES is da bomb, I can tell you that.
>
> - Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
> On 6 May 2008 11:30:42 +1000, "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>The very first thing I did when I began researching this stuff was to
>>email
>>ID to ask about their law enforcement software. I got no response.
>>
>>Go figure.
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>>Isn't that a competitor to Intelligent Devices' "Speech Extraction
>>>System"?
>>>
>>>This would indeed be a "life's little ironies" moment.
>>>
>>>- K
>>>
>>>On 5/5/08 5:33 PM, in article 481fa76b$1@linux, "Gantt Kushner"
>>><ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my quest for ways to increase my earning potential (and to stay in
>>the
>>>> recording business!) a friend suggested that I look into becoming an
>>>> audio
>>>> forensics dude. Do any of you folks have experience, strength and/or
>>hope
>>>> to share? He pointed me in the direction of these guys:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tracertek.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&P rodID=122
>>>>
>>>> They make software that is supposed to be comparable to the mega-buck
>>software
>>>> that the big kids (whoever they are!) use and they also offer training
>>in
>>>> using their system. Unfortunately it's PC only, but we have an HP
>>>> laptop
>>>> that I could use w/ Windows XP-Pro and I have a MOTU 828 MK. II, which
>>might
>>>> work...
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>
>Coolio.. now, where'd I put that vegemite ? (grin)
AA


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:481fb97e$1@linux...
>
>
> OK, are you relaxed? ;o)
>
> Here's the plan.
>
> We're all going to chill for a bit. I've had a few emails from a few
> people,
> and I think we all acknowledge that the group has been lacking decorum as
> well as On Topic posts.
>
> So unfortunately I'm gonna get all moderator on you all. Later today the
> groups will be renamed as discussed to make it clearer where you can and
> cann
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ot post certain things. This will hopefully clear any off topic
> debates
> and tension from the main group at least. Furthermore, I plan to start
> deleting
> or moving posts or threads for a short time as appropriate, and it's not
> impossible that I will look, at least temporarily, at asking or forcing
> certain
> people to refrain.
>
> In a recent email with Chuck he commented to me that he never wanted to be
> a moderator. I'm much the same, and I think the spirit of the group has
> always
> been that we sort out our own issues amongst ourselves without a
> moderator.
> I think this has worked well in creating a group of people who are open
> and
> honest with each other, but recently we've struggled with a lot of this
> stuff.
>
> I'm also half pondering creation of a Paris NG usage policy of some sort,
> which gives a guide to decorum and approach which is expected. That's just
> food for thought at the moment.
>
> Right now however I just want to ask that everybody chill out. Resist that
> temptation to post back your witty retort to whoever you thought was out
> of line. Let it sit for a bit.
>
> What's more important to me right now than anything is getting some
> positive
> input into the group, and I think we have heard enough of the arguments
> for
> a bit. So I'll ask you all, for a couple of days at least:
>
> (*) If it's an argument, just let it go. I don't care if your comment is
> arguably warranted. What's warranted more is some peace and harmony in the
> group.
>
> (*) Think of something On Topic to post. New music software or plug info.
> An instrument you're planning to buy. Whatever.
>
> Later today I hope to clear off some of these messy threads and we can
> pretend
> it never happened for a bit. Let's see the group become a little more of
> a community again. If there's one thing everybody agrees on it's that
> there's
> too much discord, so let's simply avoid it for a bit.
>
> I'll rename the groups, and we'll look at some kind of guide to group
> behaviour
> perhaps.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.ANNOUNCEMENT: This thread dates from May, 2008. Since then, Mike Audet has addressed many facets of PARIS' drivers and is working on ASIO drivers again (more details on current ASIO driver development available here). Short form - we're getting basically all our wishes (and from inside the community! Very Happy) so this thread is now locked and you can come contribute to this new one instead.

Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of this
hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.

For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:

1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.

2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume the
goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS app
would.

3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.

4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality

5) Highly skilled work

>>>

So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero to
five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".

This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
with your "5".

If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second and
let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
"zero".

I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and not
even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get a
vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
comments to add, feel free.

Thanks in advan
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96411 is a reply to message #96409] Fri, 29 February 2008 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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ce - KerryIf the latency is right, a 5 here. I'd love to hook a native app into my
existing structure. Gimme Gimme!

AA

"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
> this
> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
> the
> goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
> app
> would.
>
> 3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
> 4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
> Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
> 5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
> So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
> drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
> to
> five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
> saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
> This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
> our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
> question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if a
> hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
> information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
> influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
> with your "5".
>
> If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
> hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
> and
> let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
> "zero".
>
> I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
> not
> even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
> a
> vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
> (non-negative)
> comments to add, feel free.
>
> Thanks in advance - Kerry
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Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96422 is a reply to message #96410] Fri, 29 February 2008 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
>
>>>>> Well, I made a real effort to help you here.
>>>>>
>>>>> When everyone else was bashing you.
>>>>>
>>>>> And this is your response?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you really can't do better...
>>>>>
>>>>> silly me...
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>> I may go buy a PC now, after washing my hands...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh boy oh boy oh boy, DC can I join your club of real engineers?
>>>>>>Please!
>>>>>> Please! Please! Dude, you have got to be kidding me! You don't know

>>>>>> any
>>>>>>thing about me. I have worked on Harrison consoles in the past and
some
>>>>>>of them do SUCK!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll say again, I didn't start the shit here on this NG. I didn't
start
>>>>>>stirring it up the Mac vs PC war stuff on this NG, some of you guys
did
>>>>> years
>>>>>>ago. I got sick of hearing the same old repeated untruths about the
mac
>>>>>>platform, so I jumped in to straiten it out and give some information.
>>>>> If
>>>>>>you want to believe that the Mac can't run as much software titles
as a
>>>>> PC
>>>>>>go ahead, but the truth is, Macs have been able to run more titles
than
>>>>> a
>>>>>>PC since about 1994, if you say other wise I will try to educate you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I find it funny that the people that bash Macs don't use them. If
you
>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>use them on a regular basis, how and the hell do you know what your
>>>>>>talking
>>>>>>about??? I use both, I used PCs before I ever used a Mac. I believe,

>>>>>>for
>>>>>>most people, if you used both you would you would end up preferring
the
>>>>> Mac.
>>>>>> I also believe, for some people it's a left brain right brain thing,

>>>>>> and
>>>>>>they will never like a Mac. For others, I think they are just stubborn,
>>>>>>or brain washed or ignorant, these are the people that will go to their
>>>>> graves
>>>>>>insisting that Macs suck. Until you use a new Mac for a couple of
years
>>>>>>you won't know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't give a rat's ass what you use, just don't bash the mac when
you
>>>>> don't
>>>>>>know what the hell your talking about. Don't mock or insult mac users

>>>>>>and
>>>>>>you won't be mocked or insulted. It's like telling someone they are
a
>>>>>>dumb
>>>>>>ass for paying $3,000.00 for a compressor when they could have bought
a
>>>>> RNC
>>>>>>for $175.00, and then talking about your new $3,000.00 mic pre you
just
>>>>> bought.
>>>>>> You don't know what the value is that they are getting out of the
>>>>>> $3,000.00
>>>>>>compressor, and you got personal and insulted their intelligence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It can go both ways, tit for tat. I didn't start the shit here on
the
>>>>>>NG.
>>>>>> I didn't start the shit this time, Thad did, and John and Neil
>>>>>> followed.
>>>>>> I haven't made any post that would stir any thing up in quite some

>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>but others have. If I post anything about Apple or MS it's information.
>>>>>> You may not like the information, but the information may not be for

>>>>>> you.
>>>>>> Any posts I make about mac information draws fire now. It's not about
>>>>> Apple,
>>>>>>MS or Macs, what it is becoming, is personal. If someone is going
to
>>>>>>mock
>>>>>>me, ridicule me, put me down or insult me, they can expect to get it

>>>>>>back.
>>>>>> Don't pile on and then patronize me and tell me to chill out, if you

>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>you can expect it to get ugly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's become obvious to me that a few people would like to drive me
off
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>group, and they may get what they want, or they may get exactly what

>>>>>>they
>>>>>>asked for, but
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96423 is a reply to message #96397] Fri, 29 February 2008 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
Messages: 868
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the group won't be the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>DC, I don't appreciate your little talk. If you want to view me as
the
>>>>> center
>>>>>>of the problem, I'll note your position. If you want to shun me or

>>>>>>ignore
>>>>>>me or whatever, go for it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I think 20 is the new 10 cuz they clean and cook like 10 year olds ;-)

rick <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote:
>is 20 the new 10???just curious cuz i'm old and don't get out much.
>
>On Mon, 5 May 2008 23:22:28 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
><know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>It's funny how we end up always back at the things we love, but not necessarily
how
>we envisioned the future isn't it?
>>
>>AA
>>
>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:481fdf00@linux...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I had a 'once per year' senior in high school start to study with me
tonight.
>> He is using his experience here for his senior project. I was giving
him an
>> overview of the studio build, hardware, software and life that I live
as an owner
>
>> operator/musician. His reaction was what I had expected. Impressed
and
>> overwhelmed. He will be attending college for audio engineering in September.
>>
>> Most oddly, I also started feeling overwhelmed encompassing my
>> accomplishments to date, albeit modest, and goals I still have. In verbalizing

>> it tonight I realized I am truly lucky to still be as motivated as when
I was in
>
>> high school dreaming about how my career might unfold.
>>
>> I hope we all appreciate the complexity and fulfillment of our artistic/scientific
>
>> selves. The reward
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96455 is a reply to message #96365] Sat, 01 March 2008 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
mation. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>oh yeah forgot the number, so, 4 for me. i dont use paris
anymore, have a fine working setup, but would support this.
when the latency is ok.

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, C
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96459 is a reply to message #96455] Sun, 02 March 2008 01:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
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Senior Member
s a lot more fun than fighting
>! Look ma, eyes a producer !
>
>http://www.kfocus.com/temp/sample1.mp3
>http://www.kfocus.com/temp/sample2.mp33.5
Would have been a 5 before I sold my 8-in card!!!

"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote:
>5 here Kerry.
>
>"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:p6s224dolpkmes5isp8593kcghpmdq8h19@4ax.com...
>> 5
>>
>> On Mon, 05 May 2008 21:10:23 -0700, Kerry Galloway
>> <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of

>>>this
>>>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>>
>>>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>>
>>>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>>
>>>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume

>>>the
>>>goal would
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96461 is a reply to message #96459] Sun, 02 March 2008 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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Senior Member
uestion is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>>>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
>>>with your "5".
>>>
>>>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second

>>>and
>>>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>>>"zero".
>>>
>>>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and

>>>not
>>>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get
>>>a
>>>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any
>>>(non-negative)
>>>comments to add, feel free.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
>
>That does sound kind of fun.

Gantt Kushner wrote:
> And while I'm having potentially stupid thoughts...
>
> Suppose you wired a guitar to send the treble PU out of one jack and the
> neck (and middle, if there is one) PUs out of another. Then, you design
> an amp with two switchable channels so you could, for example, have the bridge
> PU going thru a big, fat, saturated Dumble-esque (please don't sue me, Alexander!)
> high gain channel and the other PU(s) thru a shimmering, warm clean channel.
> Flip the selector switch to go from lead to r
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96464 is a reply to message #96459] Sun, 02 March 2008 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot
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Senior Member
ng is fine, as is challenging
people's views, so long as everyone involved is taking it the right way,
and as long as it's not interrupting those who are here just to discuss music/technology,
which is kinda the point of the group.

And if things get out of hand it never hurts to get back to basics again.

Cheers,
Kim.


"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>I like your thinking on this. I do want to say something (perhaps in my
own
>defense?), which is just that some of us might not be as angry or combative

>as we sound. Like when DJ and/or Don and I get into something . . . I know

>it gets noisy and sarcastic at times, but I think we just like to "rassle,"

>test out our own points of view. I never hang on to it or take things
>personally. I just like the unfiltered banter. :)
>
>S
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:481fb97e$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> OK, are you relaxed? ;o)
>>
>> Here's the plan.
>>
>> We're all going to chill for a bit. I've had a few emails from a few
>> people,
>> and I think we all acknowledge that the group has been lacking decorum
as
>> well as On Topic posts.
>>
>> So unfortunately I'm gonna get all moderator on you all. Later today the
>> groups will be renamed as discussed to make it clearer where you can and
>> cannot post certain things. This will hopefully clear any off topic
>> debates
>> and tension from the main group at least. Furthermore, I plan to start

>> deleting
>> or moving posts or threads for a short time as appropriate, and it's not
>> impossible that I will look, at least temporarily, at asking or forcing

>> certain
>> people to refrain.
>>
>> In a recent email with Chuck he commented to me that he ne
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96467 is a reply to message #96464] Sun, 02 March 2008 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
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omething (perhaps in my
>own
>>defense?), which is just that some of us might not be as angry or combative
>
>>as we sound. Like when DJ and/or Don and I get into something . . . I
know
>
>>it gets noisy and sarcastic at times, but I think we just like to "rassle,"
>
>>test out our own points of view. I never hang on to it or take things

>>personally. I just like the unfiltered banter. :)
>>
>>S
>
>;)
>5 !! My 4 card Paris rig is all set to go..Bring it on Kerry.

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to ad
Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96468 is a reply to message #96467] Sun, 02 March 2008 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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d, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>5

Dimitrios


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>I guess it would be somewhere between a 4 and 5 for me. Thanks Kerry, for
>keeping things moving forward.
>Rod
>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
>this
>>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
>the
>>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
>app
>>would.
>>
>>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>>
>>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>>
>>5) Highly skilled work
>>
>>>>>
>>
>>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
>to
>>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>>
>>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
>a
>>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime
in
>>with your "5".
>>
>>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
>and
>>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>>"zero".
>>
>>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
>not
>>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to
get
>a
>>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>>comments to add, feel free.
>>
>>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>>
>Great Mike !!
I will try that !
I will buy.
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I can't believe I got it done, but here it is!
>
>This things sounds so smooth that it will blow your mind.
>
>You can run two instances per card, and all the DSP power is going to very
>good use. You just have to hear this.
>
>You can order it at www.ensoniq.ca. I've continued to leave the pricing
>a
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not having to buy another 20 or so A/D's makes
it worth some dollars to me as well. Assuming that it would cost less than
changing over my Paris hardware to another brand of ASIO supported I/O I
can't see that I could turn it down.

Cheers,
Kim.


Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of
this
>hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>
>For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>
>1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>
>2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion cards. Let's assume
the
>goal would be that the driver could utilize all the same I/Os the PARIS
app
>would.
>
>3) 16 and 24 bit; 44.1k and 48k. Unimpaired sound quality.
>
>4) Stable and tested with all major platforms - REAPER, Ableton, Cubase,
>Nuendo etc - with full I/O functionality
>
>5) Highly skilled work
>
>>>>
>
>So with those assumptions in place - rate the importance to you of ASIO
>drivers being created for PARIS - real ASIO drivers - on a scale of zero
to
>five, with zero being "not at all" and five being "yippee! The farm is
>saved! My life is complete and I can finally die happy!".
>
>This is undoubtedly obvious to state, but hey, I'm a bass player - we make
>our livings stating completely obvious things. So with that in mind - this
>question is obviously directed to *current PARIS users* - after all, if
a
>hundred people who sold their rigs answer "zero" it's not meaningful
>information. The exception of course would be if such drivers might
>influence you to reenter PARIS again. In that case, feel free to chime in
>with your "5".
>
>If you look at this question and say "I'm utterly thrilled by your
>hypothetical, but I'm too busy to respond right now" - do find a second
and
>let us know you're a 5, lest your silence be mistakenly interpreted as
>"zero".
>
>I know the NG is a subset of PARIS users rather than the whole lot - and
not
>even all of that subset read it every day - but humour me, I'd like to get
a
>vague sense of the community desire for this. If you have any (non-negative)
>comments to add, feel free.
>
>Thanks in advance - Kerry
>I dunno, Bill, irony is a disconnect between the apparent or spoken state.
That is, a convention of Mormons being held in Vegas or Bangkok is ironic.
Sarcasm makes use of irony, so when I tell the half-wits at HP 'Enterprise
Support Logistics' that they certainly earned their name as I'm waiting for
a part 13.5 hours after initiating a service call on a machine with a four
hour response time service contract, that's being ironic. Irony is pretty
high level, subtle stuff.

In my experience when it comes to human behavior pointless tragedy and low
rent slapstick comedy really seem to have the central roles. But hey, I've
been up for 22 hours at this point so maybe my point of view is a bit skewed.


TCB

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Sarah, that's the missing ingredient: a sense of humor! Laugh at
>ourselves and we will be a whole lot happier. Truly, nothing is more
>liberally larded with bitter sweet irony than human behavior.
>
>Sarah wrote:
>> I like your thinking on this. I do want to say something (perhaps in
my own
>> defense?), which is just that some of us might not be as angry or combative

>> as we sound. Like when DJ and/or Don and I get into something . . . I
know
>> it gets noisy and sarcastic at times, but I think we just like to "rassle,"

>> test out our own points of view. I never hang on to it or take things

>> personally. I just like the unfiltered banter. :)
>>
>> S
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:481fb97e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> OK, are you relaxed? ;o)
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>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>> I'm also half pondering creation of a Paris NG usage policy of some sort,
>>>> which gives a guide to decorum and approach which is expected. That's
> just
>>>> food for thought at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Right now however I just want to ask that everybody chill out. Resist
> that
>>>> temptation to post back your witty retort to whoever you thought was
> out
>>>> of line. Let it sit for a bit.
>>>>
>>>> What's more important to me right now than anything is getting some
>>>> positive
>>>> input into the group, and I think we have heard enough of the arguments
>
>>>> for
>>>> a bit. So I'll ask you all, for a couple of days at least:
>>>>
>>>> (*) If it's an argument, just let it go. I don't care if your comment
> is
>>>> arguably warranted. What's warranted more is some peace and harmony in
> the
>>>> group.
>>>>
>>>> (*) Think of something On Topic to post. New music software or plug info.
>>>> An instrument you're planning to buy. Whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Later today I hope to clear off some of these messy threads and we can
>
>>>> pretend
>>>> it never happened for a bit. Let's see the group become a little more
> of
>>>> a community again. If there's one thing everybody agrees on it's that
>
>>>> there's
>>>> too much discord, so let's simply avoid it for a bit.
>>>>
>>>> I'll rename the groups, and we'll look at some kind of guide to group
>
>>>> behaviour
>>>> perhaps.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>
>Damn, I wish I had those algos when I used Paris. I have had a DP4 in my
rack since they came out though.

Mike Audet wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I can't believe I got it done, but here it is!
>
> This things sounds so smooth that it will blow your mind.
>
> You can run two instances per card, and all the DSP power is going to very
> good use. You just have to hear this.
>
> You can order it at www.ensoniq.ca. I've continued to leave the pricing
> as "Pay what you can." Please be fair with this if you value these plugins.
>
>
> As always, let me know what you think!
>
>
>
>
>Honestly, I can't say how he likes it compared to other setups, but
when he first got it and started playing thru it, he expressed the
"well, I guess I should just sell the rest of this gear" emotion!

- Paul

On 6 May 2008 14:38:50 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:

>
>Do you/he like it as well as a good tube amp in a band context?
>
>DC
>
>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>The guitar player in my band recently got one and loves it. Awesome
>>sounds, to say the least. He had to wait about 6 months to get it,
>>IIRC.
>>
>>- Paul Artola
>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>
>>On 6 May 2008 00:53:16 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Ok, you guys seen this?
>>>
>>>This is an amazing tool especially for recording guitars direct.
>>>
>>>http://www.fractalaudio.com/
>>>
>>>This is a revolution in processing and quality for amp emulators and FX.
>>>This guy has really good ears and this box finally starts to deliver on
>the
>>>promise of amp modeling and the FX are stellar.
>>>
>>>Cliff regularly releases updates and posts of several forums, so the
>>>product gets almost real-time feedback.
>>>
>>>I want one. Take a look.
>>>
>>>DC
>>>zmora wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Anyone knows this preamp-processor? Any opinion?

I've read several very positive reviews of this unit, and I think DJ had
one a while back but sold it. Since he seems to have quite a nice collection
of pres and compressors, that doesn't mean it is not a good unit. You might
ask him about it.Hi Bill,

I've got a DP/4, too, and these plugins sound better. They were ported to
the esp2 chips to be used in the DP/Pro, or as a starting point for the dp/pro
algo development. I have no idea if they were improved at that point, or
if it's just not having the 16 bit converters in the way, but both the hall
and the plate sound way better in PARIS that in my dp/4.

I'll be porting the actual DP/Pro algos soon, and I used this naming convention
to distinguish them.

All the best,

Mike

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Damn, I wish I had those algos when I used Paris. I have had a DP4 in my

>rack si
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he likes it compared to other setups, but
>when he first got it and started playing thru it, he expressed the
>"well, I guess I should just sell the rest of this gear" emotion!
>
>- Paul
>
>On 6 May 2008 14:38:50 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Do you/he like it as well as a good tube amp in a band context?
>>
>>DC
>>
>>Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>The guitar player in my band recently got one and loves it. Awesome
>>>sounds, to say the least. He had to wait about 6 months to get it,
>>>IIRC.
>>>
>>>- Paul Artola
>>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>>
>>>On 6 May 2008 00:53:16 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ok, you guys seen this?
>>>>
>>>>This is an amazing tool especially for recording guitars direct.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.fractalaudio.com/
>>>>
>>>>This is a revolution in processing and quality for amp emulators and
FX.
>>>>This guy has really good ears and this box finally starts to deliver
on
>>the
>>>>promise of amp modeling and the FX are stellar.
>>>>
>>>>Cliff regularly releases updates and posts of several forums, so the
>>>>product gets almost real-time feedback.
>>>>
>>>>I want one. Take a look.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>
>I need one...

Please contact me at this adresse:

j-37@vkbb.no


JensCool
Martin


On 8/05/08 9:47 PM, in article 4822e863$1@linux, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:

>
> Martin, they recorded in Australia and I am just doing the mixes.
>
> Johnoh my god i had no idea...just looked at your paris pluginlist...oh man if
i would have had that
back when i still used paris, oooooh....


seriously though, at the risk that people kill me here for
suggesting a platform change, but did you ever think about
porting the stuff to VST at some point? i know quite a few people that would
kill for a lot of the old ensoniq effects in VST form...


*hides under table as he sees several C16s flying towards him*



"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I can't believe I got it done, but here it is!
>
>This things sounds so smooth that it will blow your mind.
>
>You can run two instances per card, and all the DSP power is going to very
>good use. You just have to hear this.
>
>You can order it at www.ensoniq.ca. I've continued to leave the pricing
>as "Pay what you can." Please be fair with this if you value these plugins.
>
>
>As always, let me know what you think!
>
>
>
>
>On 9 May 2008 18:33:09 +1000, "derek" <a@b.com> wrote:

>
>oh my god i had no idea...just looked at your paris pluginlist...oh man if
>i would have had that
>back when i still used paris, oooooh....
>
>
>seriously though, at the risk that people kill me here for
>suggesting a platform change, but did you ever think about
>porting the stuff to VST at some point? i know quite a few people that would
>kill for a lot of the old ensoniq effects in VST form...
>
>
>*hides under table as he sees several C16s flying towards him*

for a good idea??? you must have gone to a catholic school as a lad.
>
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I can't believe I got it done, but here it is!
>>
>>This things sounds so smooth that it will blow your mind.
>>
>>You can run two instances per card, and all the DSP power is going to very
>>good use. You just have to hear this.
>>
>>You can order it at www.ensoniq.ca. I've continued to leave the pricing
>>as "Pay what you can." Please be fair with this if you value these plugins.
>>
>>
>>As always, let me know what you think!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>This was the idea behind he ES335TD Stereo Gibson... otherwise known as
"Lucille"

W. Mark Wilson

"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:48210a41$1@linux...
>
> And while I'm having potentially stupid thoughts...
>
> Suppose you wired a guitar to send the treble PU out of one jack and the
> neck (and middle, if there is one) PUs out of another. Then, you design
> an amp with two switchable channels so you could, for example, have the
> bridge
> PU going thru a big, fat, saturated Dumble-esque (please don't sue me,
> Alexander!)
> high gain channel and the other PU(s) thru a shimmering, warm clean
> channel.
> Flip the selector switch to go from lead to rhythm. Or run both at the
> same time for fat, sustaining distortion w/ a nice clear, articulated note
> underneath. Or switch the amp around to have a little crunch on the
> neck/mid
> PU and bright, clean Tele twang on the bridge PU. You could start the
> experiment
> by wiring a guitar in stereo and using two amps.
>
> Hmmm. I might have found a use for some of my down-time this week!
>
> GanttHi Derek,

VST is on my to-do list, but not until after I've ported all the plugins
I can to PARIS.

I think you should buy another PARIS rig and come on home!

:)

"derek" <a@b.com> wrote:
>
>oh my god i had no idea...just looked at your paris pluginlist...oh man
if
>i would have had that
>back when i still used paris, oooooh....
>
>
>seriously though, at the risk that pe
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f one jack and the
>> neck (and middle, if there is one) PUs out of another. Then, you design
>> an amp with two switchable channels so you could, for example, have the

>> bridge
>> PU going thru a big, fat, saturated Dumble-esque (please don't sue me,

>> Alexander!)
>> high gain channel and the other PU(s) thru a shimmering, warm clean
>> channel.
>> Flip the selector switch to go from lead to rhythm. Or run both at the
>> same time for fat, sustaining distortion w/ a nice clear, articulated
note
>> underneath. Or switch the amp around to have a little crunch on the
>> neck/mid
>> PU and bright, clean Tele twang on the bridge PU. You could start the

>> experiment
>> by wiring a guitar in stereo and using two amps.
>>
>> Hmmm. I might have found a use for some of my down-time this week!
>>
>> Gantt
>
>and happy to take any tips from the master !Very cool, Mike.

How about Audio Unit versions, eventually?

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Mike Audet wrote:
> Hi Derek,
>
> VST is on my to-do list, but not until after I've ported all the plugins
> I can to PARIS.
>
> I think you should buy another PARIS rig and come on home!
>
> :)
>
> "derek" <a@b.com> wrote:
>> oh my god i had no idea...just looked at your paris pluginlist...oh man
> if
>> i would have had that
>> back when i still used paris, oooooh....
>>
>>
>> seriously though, at the risk that people kill me here for
>> suggesting a platform change, but did you ever think about
>> porting the stuff to VST at some point? i know quite a few people that would
>> kill for a lot of the old ensoniq effects in VST form...
>>
>>
>> *hides under table as he sees several C16s flying towards him*
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I can't believe I got it done, but here it is!
>>>
>>> This things sounds so smooth that it will blow your mind.
>>>
>>> You can run two instances per card, and all the DSP power is going to very
>>> good use. You just have to hear this.
>>>
>>> You can order it at www.ensoniq.ca. I've continued to leave the pricing
>>> as "Pay what you can." Please be fair with this if you value these plugins.
>>>
>>>
>>> As always, let me know what you think!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>Arrrrgh! Is it time to go shopping for a Paris friendly PC? Will current
hardware run XP and Paris? Any ideas what a machine might cost?

Whew.

Gantt

"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>I can't believe I got it done, but here it is!
>
>This things sounds so smooth that it will blow your mind.
>
>You can run two instances per card, and all the DSP power is going to very
>good use. You just have to hear this.
>
>You can order it at www.ensoniq.ca. I've continued to leave the pricing
>as "Pay what you can." Please be fair with this if you value these plugins.
>
>
>As always, let me know what you think!
>
>
>
>
>I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in the
middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
had more than my share of recently.

Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
some "things audio" accomplished.

Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.

http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz

.......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
politics

;O)> ......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
> politics
>
> ;O)
>

how DARE you, instigator. Sheesh, things audio."Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

how DARE you, instigator. Sheesh, things audio.
>
>
I'm a hopeless troll.

;o)There's somethin' funky on the bass that's making it warble a bit, and just
a bit too much in the finger/mid sound.... sounds like a compression issue.
Possibly attack/release timing, too much X:1 or threshold... not sure what's
going on there exactly. It may be a bit too loud also, however temper that
with some new compression settings. Vocal is too low in volume overall.
Snare isn't quite as snappy as I personally like, might be too washed in
verb (seems kinda 'soft' in the mix like too much room/not enough dry).
Reminds me of a Dan Fogelberg vibe, nice.

AA


"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:48250a37$1@linux...
>
> I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in
> the
> middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
> on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
> had more than my share of recently.
>
> Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
> start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
> some "things audio" accomplished.
>
> Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
> to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
>
> ......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
> politics
>
> ;O)
>Anyone with ideas...I've been running Paris on 98SE for years, just last night
I go to open a project and get 2 error messages " I/O modules not available
in this configuration....bla, bla" I have had this before when I forget
to turn on the MEC, but it's on, I tried another cable...nada! any thoughts
? ThanksHi Ced,

Are you getting this messages when Paris starts up or just when you open
a project?

"Ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>Anyone with ideas...I've been running Paris on 98SE for years, just last
night
>I go to open a project and get 2 error messages " I/O modules not available
>in this configuration....bla, bla" I have had this before when I forget
>to turn on the MEC, but it's on, I tried another cable...nada! any thoughts
>? ThanksThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Hi All,

I was
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hoping for someone to post something like this.

Using FaderWorks may be great but setting it up is tedious. I think=20

sharing this info can only help all of us. I hope others do the same.

I spent a few days confirming these. They work here. =20

Double check to be sure at your end. There are many other=20

plugs that amazingly have 0 latency.



I can't stress enough for you to check these numbers to be sure I=20

was accurate in the procedure. =20

Enjoy,

Tom







FaderWorks 3.1 Latency Chart for Paris @ 44.1k =20



Plugin Samples=20

=20

Paris Plugs Lookahead 0ms:

Comp, Gate, BarbEQ, FreakQ, DeEsser 2

Multiband Comp =
4

X-Over =
3

Lookahead 5ms:

Comp, Gate, BarbEQ, FreakQ 230

Mike Audet's new Comp, DeEsser 211

Multiband comp =
213

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ =20

=20

Drumagog 4.0 =
200 ish

Drumagog fixed latency =
3400 ish

SIR =
8960

Reaper FIR =
4096

Voxengo Ess EQ =
192

Voxengo Power Shaper =
6

=20

Waves Plugs Lookahead 0ms:

C1 Comp, Side Chain =
340

C4, L1, L2, Ren Comp, DeEss 64

Lin EQ Broadband =
2679

Lin EQ Lowband =
2047

Multiband =
3528

Ren Channel =
65

Ultra Pitch =
8239

X Click, X Noise =
2624

X Noise =
5120

SSL E Channel =
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