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| OK.....soo I'm trying something old here.... [message #60464] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 12:54  |
Deej [1]
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>I'm thinking, that even though Apple will be using Intel hardware software
>locking technology, some body will hack the new Mac OS and run it on a standard
>PC with the new chip set. So it might be cheaper to wait.
>
>I guess will know more Jan. 9th. A $299 Mac mini with a built in TV tuner
>would be vary cool. A dual boot, multi processor tower with standard PCI
>slots that could run Paris XP and Mac OSX would be even cooler!
>
>Anybody have any thoughts?
>
>JamesYou are already one with the Borg, Deej. Choose your Borg. On Slashdot
the Borg icon is reserved for Microsoft, and for good reason.
Not that you shouldn't feel free to use whatever system you feel does
the job for you. Enjoy what you dig. And dig deep. ;^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com
DJ wrote:
> I was down an the local Mac store here yesterday. I played around with a new
> monster G5. I must say that *elegant in every way* was my
> impression..........but that's my impression of Pro Tool HD system too.
> IMO, with both of them, the purchaser becomes the *screwee* whenever the
> moneymonkey needs a new injection of cash. Thing is, with a little tweaking,
> I can achieve at least an equal, if not better result with alternative
> platforms and not become one with the Borg.
>
> ;o)
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:43a43ddf$1@linux...
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>>Sorry about mucking up Deej's thread. I wasn't looking to start the whole
>>Mac vs. PC debate. I was just thinking out loud. I go through this same
>>kind of thing every time I build a new PC or upgrade, it's kind of a PITA.
>> I was just wondering if upgrading an Apple Intel mac will have the same
>>kind of issues? I hope they get it right. I wonder if Apple will have
>
> affordable
>
>>upgrade paths? Knowing Apple, they will probably solder in the processors
>>so you have to buy a whole new computer to upgrade.
>>
>>This machine will be a whole new beast, I for one , will not be the first
>>to dive in! It will be interesting to see how these systems perform and
>>what problems they will have with them. People are already talking about
>>hacking them to run dual boot, with XP and Mac OS. Dual boot would be
>
> cool.
>
>>I'm thinking, that even though Apple will be using Intel hardware software
>>locking technology, some body will hack the new Mac OS and run it on a
>
> standard
>
>>PC with the new chip set. So it might be cheaper to wait.
>>
>>I guess will know more Jan. 9th. A $299 Mac mini with a built in TV tuner
>>would be vary cool. A dual boot, multi processor tower with standard PCI
>>slots that could run Paris XP and Mac OSX would be even cooler!
>>
>>Anybody have any thoughts?
>>
>>James
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>
>Hmmm......maybe I n
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| Re: OK.....soo I'm trying something old here.... [message #60473 is a reply to message #60464] |
Sun, 20 November 2005 15:35   |
Rod Lincoln
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hen I was having
> problems with the drivers.......much faster. I'll post more about this as I
> get into it.
>
> Now that I've Ghosted the system drive, I'm getting ready to do the OS
> tweaking., load drivers, etc.
>
> I'll be coming up for air in a couple of hours.
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43a45e31$1@linux...
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>>Hmmm......maybe I need to poke around in my bios some more but my AMD 64
>>4200 dual core CPU is operating at 2200MHz? Is this normal? Does this mean
>>each core is operating at this speed, or both?
>>
>>It's a bit faster than the XP 3000 that I was using on my old mobo, but
>>nothing tht would call for a tickertape parade.
>>
>>Perhaps the juju is in the ability of these to handle heavier processing
>>loads?
>>
>>Right now, I'm underwhelmed, but I haven't had a chance to really use this
>>for anything other than booting Windows and loading drivers.
>>
>>;oP
>>
>>
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>
>Maybe so. I'm Ghosting my system at another stage of the process right now
and I'm getting ready to do the driver loading and the IRQ waltz. I'm going
to try to load all of the VIA drivers *except* the AGP.
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:43a46fdc$1@linux...
> I have a feeling that you will need the VIA drivers...
> Maybe it's time to move the '450 to another box and get a '750??
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Hmmmm........just checked my system info and now it shows two CPU's each
> > running at 2202MHz. This wasn't the situation last night. Also, the
system
> > is running faster this morning than it was last night when I was having
> > problems with the drivers.......much faster. I'll post more about this
as I
> > get into it.
> >
> > Now that I've Ghosted the system drive, I'm getting ready to do the OS
> > tweaking., load drivers, etc.
> >
> > I'll be coming up for air in a couple of hours.
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:43a45e31$1@linux...
> >
> >>Hmmm......maybe I need to poke around in my bios some more but my AMD 64
> >>4200 dual core CPU is operating at 2200MHz? Is this normal? Does this
mean
> >>each core is operating at this speed, or both?
> >>
> >>It's a bit faster than the XP 3000 that I was using on my old mobo, but
> >>nothing tht would call for a tickertape parade.
> >>
> >>Perhaps the juju is in the ability of these to handle heavier processing
> >>loads?
> >>
> >>Right now, I'm underwhelmed, but I haven't had a chance to really use
this
> >>for anything other than booting Windows and loading drivers.
> >>
> >>;oP
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >My current isnstall is ACPI. I've got a 13 slot Magma here with my 3 x RME
PCI cards onboard. The Magma host card is in PCI slot #4 which doesn't share
an IRQ with any other system devices. Right now the RME cards are on IRQ 3
and
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| Re: OK.....soo I'm trying something old here.... [message #60482 is a reply to message #60464] |
Mon, 21 November 2005 02:36   |
rick
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I've got a 13 slot Magma here with my 3 x
RME
> > PCI cards onboard. The Magma host card is in PCI slot #4 which doesn't
share
> > an IRQ with any other system devices. Right now the RME cards are on IRQ
3
> > and nothing else is sharing with them.. I'm getting ready to install my
> > UAD-1 cards.
> >
> > Now the question........I wondering if ACPI is intelligent enough so
that
> > even if I come up with the UAD-1 cards sharing IRQ's with the RME cards
or
> > other devices, they will still work. I seem to recall Brian T saying he
had
> > lots of stuff sharing and was having no problems.
> >
> > If I start having problems, I'm going to need to revert to standard PC
mode.
> > I have forgotten how to do this, short of reinstalling Windows. I wrote
it
> > down somewhere but I can't find it.
> >
> > If someone would be so knnd, it would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >Hi Everybody,
I just thought I'd share a small epiphony I had late last night when I couldn't
sleep. You've probably all had it already, but I thought I'd share just in
case.
I've been working on a mix, and I was lamenting the fact that in order to
pan my reverb returns in to 10 and 2, I have to use live mix mode and rout
the returns to ajacent chanels. This sucks because you can't record new
tracks without killing the reverb, etc, etc.
So, it dawned on me: why not use the patch bay to route the left reverb return
to both the right and left inputs of aux 1 and the right reverb return to
both the left and right inputs of aux 2 and then use the pan control to pan
them in.
Of course, it works!
PARIS rulez.
MikeAll i get is a blank screen in Win98 even with Chainer. Also in Wavelab
it doesn't show up either. crap crap crap Such a nice plug in and it
won't do 98 from according to their sys reqmnts.
crap"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
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>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>I was down an the local Mac store here yesterday. I played around with
a
>new
>>monster G5. I must say that *elegant in every way* was my
>>impression..........but that's my impression of Pro Tool HD system too.
>>IMO, with both of them, the purchaser becomes the *screwee* whenever the
>>moneymonkey needs a new injection of cash. Thing is, with a little tweaking,
>>I can achieve at least an equal, if not better result with alternative
>>platforms and not become one with the Borg.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>
>Ouch! That has to hurt.
>We all need to admit that the things we love and hate about or tools are
>generally arbitrary and often emotional rather than practical.
>That said, it good to see you can appreciate the G5 for its beauty and elegance…even
>if it is “overpriced.”
>
>I still like both platforms, but more and more I think I use PCs just to
>prove to myself that I can build them and keep them running. (When I write
>it down it look silly.)
>
>Gene
>
>P.S. I’ve said this before…
>
>As a shoebox style organizer, and a self-proclaimed searching fanatic, I
>love Spotlight.
>I can now find anything on all my drives (both mounted and stored away)
plus
>all my removable media and backups covering almost 30 years, in less than
>10 se
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| Re: OK.....soo I'm trying something old here.... [message #60483 is a reply to message #60464] |
Mon, 21 November 2005 02:40   |
rick
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conds. (Well over 2 TB), and Spotlight searches can include finding
>content inside files, not just the title and metadata.
>A friend with a $20,000 IBM SAN at work recently complained to me that searches
>across his 2TB SAN can take 15 minutes. (And he could never search for a
>word in a PDF, or a number in an Excel file, or across unmounted storage.)
>Naturally, Microsoft will be coming out with a Spotlight-like system in
a
>future OS.
Those dirty copycats! LOL; )Do you have the fxpansion DX Wrapper ver. 3.3? If so, try it to only find
Chainer and not the Steinberg\vstplugins map at all( Chainer must find all
the VST plugins in Steinberg\vstplugins map). I have only tested with WinXP
and Paris and it's working perfect there for me. I shall try a test later on
with WinME too, when I have time enough.
Erling
"John" <no@no.com> skrev i melding news:43a48f5c@linux...
> All i get is a blank screen in Win98 even with Chainer. Also in Wavelab
> it doesn't show up either. crap crap crap Such a nice plug in and it
> won't do 98 from according to their sys reqmnts.
>
> crapit's time to join the 21's century and migrate to XP, think of it as a
Christmas pressie to you..
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43a48f5c@linux...
> All i get is a blank screen in Win98 even with Chainer. Also in Wavelab
> it doesn't show up either. crap crap crap Such a nice plug in and it
> won't do 98 from according to their sys reqmnts.
>
> crapOK,
All devices and drivers are installed. I've still got to do a little
tweaking with the Steiny Houston controller. It's not talking to Cubase
properly yet, but all RME cards, UAD-1 cards and the Matrox cards are
working properly. The RME cards and ll of the UAD cards are in the Magma.
Matrox video cards are on IRQ 16, RME Cards are on IRQ 19, one of the UAD
1's in on IRQ 18 (not shared) and 3 x of the UAD-1 cards are on IRQ 17
sharing with the Marvell LAN controller. Hope this doesn't bite me, but I
can always disable it when using Cubase I guess. I only use LAN to transfer
files between computers prior to mixing anyway.
The Magma seems much friendlier working under ACPI than my old SBS
chassis..........guess that's why they're recommended.......eh? ;o)
System is running fast and smooth, UAD-1 plugs are authorized and working
and I haven't even gotten into the *in depth* tweaks yet where all
non-essential background services are turned off .
I just opened a 48 track Cubase project with 40 tracks of audio loaded.
Playing this back on my old AMD XP 3000 system on the ASUS A7V8X mobo
(333MHz bus speed) used to use up between 40 to 50% of my CPU cycles with
512k buffer settings and wouldn't even play back at 64k buffer settings. On
this new system, it hums along steadily at 12% at 512k buffers and plays
back at 64k buffer settings with between 30 and 35% CPU usage. That's
*significant* and is what I was looking for when I decided to build this
machine.
Once I get my Steiny controller working, I'm Ghosting this one.
So far so good.
;o)
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43a472e1$1@linux...
> My current isnstall is ACPI. I've got a 13 slot Magma here with my 3 x RME
> PCI cards onboard. The Magma host card is in PCI slot #4 which doesn't
share
> an IRQ with a
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| Re: OK.....soo I'm trying something old here.... [message #60492 is a reply to message #60483] |
Mon, 21 November 2005 11:20   |
Deej [1]
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base. It's set up as a remote ptransprt jhust fine. The
unit powers up and Windows says it's working, but I'm getting zilch as far
as control goes. I wonder if this is because it needs reinitialization.
I'm scrambling around here looking for my manual. I think the dogs ate it.
Arrrggghhhh!!!!!
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43a4dd92@linux...
> I forgot how.
>
> ;o}
>
>hit a steiny NG yet?
AA
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43a4e3c8@linux...
> Man.....this thing acts like it's dead or something. The drivers loaded
> and
> they show up in Cubase. It's set up as a remote ptransprt jhust fine. The
> unit powers up and Windows says it's working, but I'm getting zilch as far
> as control goes. I wonder if this is because it needs reinitialization.
>
> I'm scrambling around here looking for my manual. I think the dogs ate it.
>
> Arrrggghhhh!!!!!
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43a4dd92@linux...
>> I forgot how.
>>
>> ;o}
>>
>>
>
>I recall, about 3 years ago, one of the few times I was on the Sunday
night chat with Brian Tankersley, he mentioned he was beta-testing a
RAM drive and getting ridiculous thruput. I forget the exact figures
he had observed, but it was on the order of dozens of simultaneous
record and playback tracks.
The price he quoted was a little prihibitive - something like $3000
for 100 Gigs or there about.
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 18 Dec 2005 02:08:16 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>Some interesting info on RAM drives.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/05/hyperos_dram_hard_dri ve_on_the_block/index.html
>
>
>JamesYeah.....just posted up there. Found the manual that cme with the unit but
there's no mention of this calibration procedure.
I remember doing it when I first got the unit here.
;oP
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:43a4e5af$1@linux...
> hit a steiny NG yet?
> AA
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43a4e3c8@linux...
> > Man.....this thing acts like it's dead or something. The drivers loaded
> > and
> > they show up in Cubase. It's set up as a remote ptransprt jhust fine.
The
> > unit powers up and Windows says it's working, but I'm getting zilch as
far
> > as control goes. I wonder if this is because it needs reinitialization.
> >
> > I'm scrambling around here looking for my manual. I think the dogs ate
it.
> >
> > Arrrggghhhh!!!!!
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:43a4dd92@linux...
> >> I forgot how.
> >>
> >> ;o}
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>The immediate future is going to be the hybrid drives IMO.
AA
"Paul Artola" <artola@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4uq9q1hutoq6mb93viq74oo6vhc5qh8p1g@4ax.com...
>I recall, about 3 years ago, one of the few times I was on the Sunday
> night chat with Brian Tankersley, he mentioned he was beta-testing a
> RAM drive and getting ridiculous thruput
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Tue, 22 November 2005 01:27   |
rick
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target="_blank">animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> skrev i melding
news:43a529d8@linux...
>> .....dualprocessor shit;-D).....
>
> Hmmmm.......I wonder if that's the reason the Houston controller won't
> work
> any more.
>
> ;oP
>
> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43a525da@linux...
>> .....dualprocessor shit;-D).....doublebrains can be a problem if the one
>> don't know what the other is doing or will do. So, do you have the latest
>> Cubase revision that's built to take care of these idiotic doublebrains,
> so
>> you can calibrate them correct?-)
>>
>> Erling
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> skrev i melding
>> news:43a50568@linux...
>> > Well, it's calibrated again, but this didn't make any differe3nce. It's
>> > still not communicating with Cubase SX.
>> >
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> > news:43a4dd92@linux...
>> >> I forgot how.
>> >>
>> >> ;o}
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>Understood. I'm thinking that this might very well be the problem. I'm going
to hook it up to another computer tomorrow and see if I can get it to work.
I may have to get my old computer working and use it via system link or
something. I wonder if that would work?
Hmmmm................systemlink???.....well, it would definitely add some
more horsepower
;o)
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43a52cf0$1@linux...
> ...as I found out testing Paris, it was like the doublebrain didn't know
> what to do when trying to do something inside Paris, so it can be the
> problem with the Houston controller too. It's not so good if the stoneage
is
> trying to live well in modern times;-D...
>
> Erling
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> skrev i melding
> news:43a529d8@linux...
> >> .....dualprocessor shit;-D).....
> >
> > Hmmmm.......I wonder if that's the reason the Houston controller won't
> > work
> > any more.
> >
> > ;oP
> >
> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43a525da@linux...
> >> .....dualprocessor shit;-D).....doublebrains can be a problem if the
one
> >> don't know what the other is doing or will do. So, do you have the
latest
> >> Cubase revision that's built to take care of these idiotic
doublebrains,
> > so
> >> you can calibrate them correct?-)
> >>
> >> Erling
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> skrev i melding
> >> news:43a50568@linux...
> >> > Well, it's calibrated again, but this didn't make any differe3nce.
It's
> >> > still not communicating with Cubase SX.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:43a4dd92@linux...
> >> >> I forgot how.
> >> >>
> >> >> ;o}
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>Maybe something like this?
http://www.zzounds.com/item--TASUS2400
;o)
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:43a52d7c$1@linux...
> Maybe it's time to look for a new Houston controller revision made for
> modern times?-)
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> skrev i melding
> news:43a529d8@linux...
> >> .....dualprocessor shit;-D).....
> >
> > Hmmmm...
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