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| PARIS is still rockin' [message #65679] |
Thu, 23 March 2006 18:59  |
DC
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t wasn't for
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> I'd be slitting my wrists right about now.
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> I'm going to find whoever is responsible for wrtiting the drivers for this
> pile of crap, stake them out over an ant bed, cover them with honey and
> laugh my ass off as they are devoured alive........then I'm gonna go find
> their kids.
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| Re: PARIS is still rockin' [message #65700 is a reply to message #65698] |
Fri, 24 March 2006 10:58  |
Deej [1]
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and would
>delay all "other" instances to automatically get delayed for that amount.
>Now lets say you put another rencomp on another track, so the "plugin" on
>that track would inform all others to get delayed for another 64 samples
>etc...
>
>I would like to be a VST plugin because most are VST, UAD1 are ONLY vst
from
>now on...
>This way working from inside chainer we can have all the added benefits...
>
>Anyone wants to do it ?
>
>I have the "code" from multifxvst wrapper !
>Maybe that could help?
>
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
I think your on to something here!
>Maybe that more easy to do and would get paid a lot less than the above
amount
>of money.
>If I had the programming skills thats what I would do.
>Anyone knows programming ?
>I could give him more details about my idea...
>Howdy!
Does anybody know if Apple has rolled out All of their new Intel-powerd
laptops? I can't figure it out.
Swen wants to replace his big, bad top-o-the-line Powerbook with the Intel
version, as his newly-ex-girlfriend has absconded with with the old one...
JimmyHehe .. That's not even remotely possible.
Chuck
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>I have not tried FXpansion yet. Will it wrap a VST and run it natively
on
>the EDS1000 card? With out latency?
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Like what FXpansion does?
>>
>>Don
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:4445155e$1@linux...
>>>
>>> would you guys be willing to pay for a VST to EDS FX wrapper? What do
>you
>>> think it would be worth?
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>>>>
>>>>What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
>>>>Paris?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>>>>
>>>>If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would
>>>>you guys be willing to pay for that?
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing
>>> to
>>>>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>>>>
>>>>If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you have
>>>>them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
>>>>
>>>>I may have somebody interested.
>>>>
>>>>James
>>>
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>That's just not possible.
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Let me see that...
>You mean that to be able to run VST plugins on Paris dsp's ?
>That
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| Re: PARIS is still rockin' [message #65702 is a reply to message #65698] |
Fri, 24 March 2006 11:08 |
justcron
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s just not enough horsepower to run
>enough of these per submix to make it worth further efforts. I would support
>bringing whatever Chuck had on the boards to some sort of conclusion, but
>PDC is the bottom line for me, and second would be being able to buss native
>FX to the Paris auxes. Get these two things accomplished and it's a HUGE
>deal......for me at least.
>
>Deej
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:44445cfd@linux...
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>> Ok, the number one request would be latency compensation! This might
be a
>> tuff one, but Ok. What about the other questions? What about native
>Paris
>> plugins? This is probably where we'd start.
>>
>> A little more input please.
>>
>> "jim Phillips" <jmp@nospamnecounty.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >me 4th
>> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >>>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
>willing
>> >>to
>> >>>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>> >>>
>> >>>I would pay $300.00 without even thinking twice, just for this one
>feature
>> >>>if I could use UAD-1 cards..
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>>news:444444fa$1@linux...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed
for
>> >>>Paris?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what
>> would
>> >>>> you guys be willing to pay for that?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be
>willing
>> >>to
>> >>>> pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>> >>&g
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| Re: PARIS is still rockin' [message #65708 is a reply to message #65700] |
Fri, 24 March 2006 17:01 |
emarenot
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>
>version, as his newly-ex-girlfriend has absconded with with the old one...
>
>Jimmy
>
>Yeah! And right after we accomplish magically translating between DSP and
x86 microcode maybe someone can hook me up with Jenny McCarthy? I hear she's
single now.
Just joshin'! ^-}
Mark
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Dear Don,
>Would you ever believe that FXpansion by itself would wanna suicide and
make
>a VST to EDS wrapper ?
>And also without latency ?
>Nice thought,
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>I have not tried FXpansion yet. Will it wrap a VST and run it natively
>on
>>the EDS1000 card? With out latency?
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>Like what FXpansion does?
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4445155e$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> would you guys be willing to pay for a VST to EDS FX wrapper? What
do
>>you
>>>> think it would be worth?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm kind of thinking out loud.
>>>>>
>>>>>What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
>
>>>>>Paris?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these plugins?
>>>>>
>>>>>If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what
would
>>>>>you guys be willing to pay for that?
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be willing
>>>> to
>>>>>pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
>>>>>
>>>>>If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would you
have
>>>>>them do? What would you be willing to pay for this software/service?
>>>>>
>>>>>I may have somebody interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>This makes the 8th and/or 9th time I've read here that someone wants to know
where this guy is. I did some light sleuthing; here's what I found in 3
minutes. If this is him, I figger I'm owed at least a McDonald's gift
certificate or something.
http://www.bath.ac.uk/comp-sci/people/cspmgc.shtml
Dubya
"Mike Audet" wrote:
> I contacted Matt about a year ago, and he had just moved to England.
> I haven't heard back yet, but you never know.
> "James McCloskey" wrote:
>>Can any of you AU guys try to look up Mathew Craig?Yes. Quite happily. There is a procedure however.
Dubya
"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:4442c9f3$1@linux...
> Can v2.2 and v3 inhabit the same computer without fighting over the
> Doritos and the remote?Wouldn't it be cheaper to hire Guido to get that one back from Houdini
chick, LOL?
AA
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| Re: PARIS is still rockin' [message #65709 is a reply to message #65703] |
Fri, 24 March 2006 14:07 |
justcron
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"_blank">4445448c@linux...
> Howdy!
>
> Does anybody know if Apple has rolled out All of their new Intel-powerd
> laptops? I can't figure it out.
>
> Swen wants to replace his big, bad top-o-the-line Powerbook with the Intel
> version, as his newly-ex-girlfriend has absconded with with the old one...
>
> Jimmy
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>
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlI'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a go,
regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it was a
Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish, I may
have overlooked something in the set-up.
Bjorn RIf you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync to ASIO
positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris ADAT sync
port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel, set the
HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
Deej
"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a go,
> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it was a
> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish, I may
> have overlooked something in the set-up.
>
> Bjorn R
>
>>I think though that someone could build a VST plugin that could work as
delay compensator<
UAD has a VST delay compensator. The problem with it is that the delay it's
compensating for is *HUGE*. This puts the audible sound so far behind the
waveform that using automation is pretty much impossible.
Right now, I think Dimitrios has come about as close as we're going to get
with this using his ingenius coctail of wrappers and consoles. I haven't
tried it yet, but if 90 ms (M?L) is possible and it's possible to create a
32-48 track mix template with this combination of VST wrappers, etc.
inserted on each channel without too much CPU overhead , then this is major
and pretty much puts the automation issues to rest. This could be very
usable.
I've got virtually *zero* plugin delay working with Paris/Cubase hybrid rig,
but it is neither cheap nor simple.
Dimitrios method could, in theory, allow a template to be created with a VST
chainer which would allow multiple UAD plugins per channel running at the
same latency and at the same time a compensator could be inserted in this
scenario which would, when a preset is used, allow virtual delay
compensation by simply nudging a Paris track 100ms to the left in the
deitor. This is much simpler than the hoops I'm jumping through with flying
files back and forth between computers..........much much simpler. The only
issue for me would be CPU the overhead created by a 48 track mix timplate
with this stuvff inserted on each channel..
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:4444a563$1@linux...
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> Hi,
> I would like to drop in too here...
>
> I am sure we could gather 100 people here willing to pay 300$ for the
delay
> compensation and aux DX/VST as global insert also.
>
> That makes around 30.000 $ which is sufficient in my own oppinion to
justify
> the work.
>
> But can someone do this without code ?
>
> I think chuck can enlighten us if he has any access to this.
>
> I think though that someone could build a VST plugin that could work as
delay
> compensator.
> That plugin could be loaded on every Paris audio track say at the bottom
> VST
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| Re: PARIS is still rockin' [message #65711 is a reply to message #65709] |
Fri, 24 March 2006 15:34 |
DC
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> that important to me. The Paris comp and NoLimit are just too good
> > as they are. A side chain insert would be nice for gates and comps.
=20
> > Didn't somebody say they were doing that already? Hmmm?
> > Tom
> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message =
> >news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com...
> > James,
> >
> > ALC would be first on my list also, along with support for VST =
> >instruments,
> > but you're right about those things being on the "very difficult" =
> >side of
> > things.
> >
> > As far as EDS effects, I'm actually very happy with what we've =
> >already got.
> > I'm not really missing anything.
> >
> > The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible =
> >routing
> > and grouping. Again, these things will be hard to tackle.
> >
> > I'd support development for some more variety in comps, chorus,
> > delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good multi-pack?
> >
> > Definitely more for ALC and major improvements along those lines.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article 444444fa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
> > <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >=20
> > > I'm kind of thinking out loud.
> > >=20
> > > What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed =
> >for Paris?
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these =
> >plugins?
> > >=20
> > > If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, =
> >what would
> > > you guys be willing to pay for that?
> > >=20
> > > I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be =
> >willing to
> > > pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
> > >=20
> > > If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would =
> >you have
> > > them do? What would you be willing to pay for this =
> >software/service?
> > >=20
> > > I may have somebody interested.
> > >=20
> > > James
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can't you use Wires to side chain =
> >Tom?</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For me, it is about getting the DSP =
> >algo's out to=20
> >VST format, and topping my list is PDC. $300 for that? <BR>Oh yeah, I'd
> =
> >go it.=20
> >See if you can get them to rip that shoddy midi engine out and fix the =
> >compact=20
> >feature for other stuff I'd have interest in. </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
> >in message=20
> > <A href=3D"news:44448abc$1@linux">news:44448abc$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm with Deej. Auto delay comp =
> >and native=20
> > effects on auxes</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>woul
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Fri, 24 March 2006 14:30 |
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> >me. Major=20
> > issues at this point.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New effects are fun but there are so
> =
> >many third=20
> > party jobs it's not</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that important to me. The Paris =
> >comp and=20
> > NoLimit are just too good</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as they are. A side chain =
> >insert would be=20
> > nice for gates and comps. </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Didn't somebody </FONT><FONT =
> >face=3DArial=20
> > size=3D2>say they were doing that already? Hmmm?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> > style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Tony Benson" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:tony@standinghampton.com">tony@standinghampton.com</A>>=
> >=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"news:C069E3BF.A62A%tony@standinghampton.com">news:C069E3BF.A62A%t=
> >ony@standinghampton.com</A>...</DIV>James,<BR><BR>ALC=20
> > would be first on my list also, along with support for VST=20
> > instruments,<BR>but you're right about those things being on the =
> >"very=20
> > difficult" side of<BR>things.<BR><BR>As far as EDS effects, I'm =
> >actually=20
> > very happy with what we've already got.<BR>I'm not really missing=20
> > anything.<BR><BR>The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, =
> >and more=20
> > flexible routing<BR>and grouping. Again, these things will be hard =
> >to=20
> > tackle.<BR><BR>I'd support development for some more variety in =
> >comps,=20
> > chorus,<BR>delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good=20
> > multi-pack?<BR><BR>Definitely more for ALC and major improvements =
> >along=20
> > those lines.<BR><BR>Tony<BR><BR>On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article <A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:444444fa$1@linux">444444fa$1@linux</A>, "James=20
> > McCloskey"<BR><<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com">excelsm@hotmail.com</A>>=20
> > wrote:<BR><BR>> <BR>> I'm kind of thinking out loud.<BR>> =
> ><BR>>=20
> > What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed for
> =
> >
> > Paris?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> What do you think you guys would be =
> >willing=20
> > to pay for these plugins?<BR>> <BR>> If we could get the =
> >algorithms=20
> > ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, what would<BR>> you guys be =
> >willing to=20
> > pay for that?<BR>> <BR>> I'm not sure that this is possible, =
> >but, what=20
> > would you guys be willing to<BR>> pay for automatic plugin delay=20
> > compensation?<BR>> <BR>> If you could have somebody do coding =
> >work for=20
> > Paris, what would you have<BR>> them do? What would you be =
> >willing=20
> > to pay for this software/service?<BR>> <BR>> I may have =
> >somebody=20
> > interested.<BR>> <BR>> James<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
> >and=20
> >you?<BR><A=20
>
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> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>Actually.....ha....good point, but.....ha....
.....ahem.....
.....she took the soon-to-be-worthless Powerbook and he kept the $3,000.00
Microtech-Geffel tube mic as trade when they split up the stuff.
I'd say that he came out on top, in a big way. To put it very, very, very,
very mildly.
But don't tell the trollop.
Jimmy
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:444569c9@linux...
> Wouldn't it be cheaper to hire Guido to get that one back from Houdini
> chick, LOL?
> AA
>
>
> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:4445448c@linux...
> > Howdy!
> >
> > Does anybody know if Apple has rolled out All of their new Intel-powerd
> > laptops? I can't figure it out.
> >
> > Swen
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Fri, 24 March 2006 15:15 |
justcron
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>I think though that someone could build a VST plugin that could work as
> delay compensator<
>
> UAD has a VST delay compensator. The problem with it is that the delay
it's
> compensating for is *HUGE*. This puts the audible sound so far behind the
> waveform that using automation is pretty much impossible.
>
> Right now, I think Dimitrios has come about as close as we're going to get
> with this using his ingenius coctail of wrappers and consoles. I haven't
> tried it yet, but if 90 ms (M?L) is possible and it's possible to create a
> 32-48 track mix template with this combination of VST wrappers, etc.
> inserted on each channel without too much CPU overhead , then this is
major
> and pretty much puts the automation issues to rest. This could be very
> usable.
>
> I've got virtually *zero* plugin delay working with Paris/Cubase hybrid
rig,
> but it is neither cheap nor simple.
>
> Dimitrios method could, in theory, allow a template to be created with a
VST
> chainer which would allow multiple UAD plugins per channel running at the
> same latency and at the same time a compensator could be inserted in this
> scenario which would, when a preset is used, allow virtual delay
> compensation by simply nudging a Paris track 100ms to the left in the
> deitor. This is much simpler than the hoops I'm jumping through with
flying
> files back and forth between computers..........much much simpler. The
only
> issue for me would be CPU the overhead created by a 48 track mix tim
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| Re: PARIS is still rockin' [message #65718 is a reply to message #65714] |
Fri, 24 March 2006 17:35 |
DC
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; I'm not really missing anything.
> > >
> > > The places PARIS lacks for me is in VST support, and more flexible
=
> > >routing
> > > and grouping. Again, these things will be hard to tackle.
> > >
> > > I'd support development for some more variety in comps, chorus,
> > > delays,modulation effects, etc. $100.00 for a good multi-pack?
> > >
> > > Definitely more for ALC and major improvements along those lines.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > On 4/17/06 8:46 PM, in article 444444fa$1@linux, "James McCloskey"
> > > <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >=20
> > > > I'm kind of thinking out loud.
> > > >=20
> > > > What kind of native plugins would you guys like to see developed
=
> > >for Paris?
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > What do you think you guys would be willing to pay for these =
> > >plugins?
> > > >=20
> > > > If we could get the algorithms ported from the Ensoniq DP pro, =
> > >what would
> > > > you guys be willing to pay for that?
> > > >=20
> > > > I'm not sure that this is possible, but, what would you guys be =
> > >willing to
> > > > pay for automatic plugin delay compensation?
> > > >=20
> > > > If you could have somebody do coding work for Paris, what would =
> > >you have
> > > > them do? What would you be willing to pay for this =
> > >software/service?
> > > >=20
> > > > I may have somebody interested.
> > > >=20
> > > > James
> > >
> > >
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> > >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
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| Re: PARIS is still rockin' [message #65726 is a reply to message #65719] |
Fri, 24 March 2006 22:52 |
DC
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n-to-be-worthless Powerbook and he kept the $3,000.00
> Microtech-Geffel tube mic as trade when they split up the stuff.
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> I'd say that he came out on top, in a big way. To put it very, very, very,
> very mildly.
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> But don't tell the trollop.
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> Jimmy
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> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:444569c9@linux...
> > Wouldn't it be cheaper to hire Guido to get that one back from Houdini
> > chick, LOL?
> > AA
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> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:4445448c@linux...
> > > Howdy!
> > >
> > > Does anybody know if Apple has rolled out All of their new
Intel-powerd
> > > la
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