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| When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93225] |
Fri, 30 November 2007 23:03  |
DJ
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">IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47921e29$1@linux...
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> Dedric... all your licenses don't reside on a $35 piece of
> plastic with an EPROM inside it, they reside on the iLok
> website!
>
> That's how you can also move a license from one iLok to another.
> It seems to be really easy to manage... I've only had to do it
> once (port a license over from one key to another), but it was
> pretty painless.
>
> Believe me, it's WAY better than having multiple instances of
> the PACE virus on your hard drive.
>
> Neil
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> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>I was half joking about 16 ports, but for sure, 4 isn't enough for my main
>>system (already has 4 on it, and more to come), and in truth, more than
> 8 on
>>one isn't unlikely, esp. with other USB devices (keyboard, x-keys, thumb
>>drives for small project/data transfers, etc).
>>
>>You can combine iLok apps on a single key (up to 100 I think), but if you
>>want to split them to different machines, or you aren't comfortable (and
>>your insurance company isn't) with all of your software investment riding
> on
>>a single $35 piece of plastic, then that's out (and it pays to be sure the
>>developer supports iLok's backup system - some don't); then there are the
>>multiple formats - iLok, Syncrosoft, Wibu, and one I have that seems to
> be
>>none of the above.
>>
>>I agree that it's better than Pace and probably a move in the right
>>direction and probably the best option for copy protection in general,
>>other
>>than honesty, but it does seem silly in a lot of other ways.
>>
>>Dedric
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| Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93240 is a reply to message #93225] |
Sat, 01 December 2007 13:18  |
Robert
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> $2k
>
>>>>>> price point in the Apple lineup.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Other than the Mac Mini and iMac. Oh, you mean laptops. Yes, except
>>>>>
> for
>
>>>>> the low end MacBook Pro and the new MacBook Air, sans flash drive. As
>>>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>>> "feeling cheap," the MacBook does have a plastic case. But my wife has
>>>>>
>>> one
>>>
>>>>> (G4 version); it seems reasonably rugged and has held up well. It also
>>>>>
>>>>> gets better wireless reception than my metal-clad Powerbook.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My laptop cost $750 and has comparable specs to the Macbook, but with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more I/O (it's closer to the Macbook pro in feature set - not psyched
>>>>>>
>>>>>> about Vista on it, but I can't deny it gets the same job done for a
>>>>>>
> lot
>
>>>>>> less money).
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's good to have choices. Apple is only one choice. If another choice
>>>>>
>>> is
>>>
>>>>> better for you, by all means buy it. If everyone bought a Mac, Apple
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> would
>>>>>
>>>>> be insufferable. :^)
>>>>>
>>>>> Competition is good. On the flip side, if Apple weren't pushing the
>>>>> envelope, the other companies building commodity MSWindows boxes would
>>>>>
>>> be
>>>
>>>>> less motivated to give you stuff you like. So keep buying what moves
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> you,
>>>>>
>>>>&
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| Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93241 is a reply to message #93240] |
Sat, 01 December 2007 12:20 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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gt; be it Apple or someone else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The same is true of desktops. So his point is based on his opening
>>>>>> comments about being enamoured with all things Apple.
>>>>>> Sure, he could have gone cheaper, but money is hardly a concern for
>>>>>> Shelly considering his success - it's just a reference point
>>>>>> that he could have spent 1/3 of what he did and accomplished the same
>>>>>>
>>>>>> amount of work, but being enamoured with Apple, he goes for the gold
>>>>>>
>>>>>> instead. In other words, he's a victim of clever marketing - getting
>>>>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>>>>> to buy way more than you need or want.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I can't speak for him, but I didn't buy way more than I need or want,
>>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>>> I have a Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> When you have the option to pay $1000 or less and get the same job
>>>>>>
> done
>
>>>>>> (depending on what job you are trying to accomplish of course), vs.
>>>>>>
>
>
>>>>>> going
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with a brand mainly to be brand loyal and hip while having no choice
>>>>>>
>>>>>> under $2-4k or more, how else do you evaluate the two options?
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you're implying that the only reason people buy Macs is to be "brand
>>>>>
>>>>> loyal and hip," you're wrong. That doesn't apply to most of the Mac
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> users
>>>>>
>>>>> I know, who own Macs to get work done and chose them as the preferred
>>>>>
>>> tool
>>>
>>>>> given the options. Frankly, I would rather be using BeOS but that choice
>>>>>
>>>>> was torpedoed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> His comparison may not be technically fair on the Air, but he is right
>>>>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>>>>> when it comes down
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| Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93254 is a reply to message #93225] |
Sun, 02 December 2007 01:08 |
LaMont
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d a nap, put this sleeper on!
It’s
>>not over, No, it’s never too late ...or so the song says. Its seems over
>>and too late from here.
>>
>>You Are Not Alone
>>Glen Frey sings a a solid 10 on the boredom scale on this one. It's so
>forgettable
>>it's amazing I remembered to review it here.
>>
>>Long Road Out Of Eden
>>A very good song that sounds like a Kansas song. Really a nice song !
>>
>>I Dreamed There Was No War
>>Sounds like a boring version of Alan Parsons and we don't need no instrumentals
>>to bore up the already boring album
>>
>>Somebody
>>A song about somebody following you. Yawn. Fits the Eagles formula at
>least
>>in style but nothing sounds inspired, very formulaic.
>>
>>Frail Grasp On The Big Picture
>>Political commentary that is pretty reserved so as not to offend anyone.
>> Good tune actually with nice solos. Bravo !
>>
>>Last Good Time in Town
>>BEST SONG ON THE FREAKING ALBUM and it's a Joe Walsh song that he totally
>>owns. It has not place on an Eagles album.
>>
>>I Love To Watch A Woman Dance
>>Kill me with the gayness! Hey I love ballads but this is so lame. I got
>>a great idea too....rhyme the damn words ! I'm gouging my ears out now.
>>
>>Business As Usual
>>Really a boring Eagles song. At least it sounds like the Eagles, I'll
give
>>them that.
>>
>>Center Of The Universe
>>It's a nice ballad but the last thing this album needs is a ballad. It
>needs
>>balls. It's missing balls. Where are the .....uh, what are they again?
>>
>>It's Your World Now
>>The Eagles salvo announcing that they give up. At least it sounds like
>they
>>are moving to Mexico when they quit. arghhh
>>
>>Well, there it is.....Rock on.....oh wait there's no rock on this album.....Oh
>>well, I can't wait to hear the muzak versions !
>>
>>
>>Seriously though, the only songs worth a crap from best on down are:
>>
>>Last Good Time in Town
>>Waiting in the weeds
>>Frail Grasp On The Big Picture
>>Long road out of eden
>>
>>So, you got 4 whole songs worth playing ! Schweet !!!!! Double album,
>
>>2 songs per. nice !!
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>Listen to it over and over like I did. It's gay. I'm going back to greatest
hits despite the clipping on Already Gones guitar solo.Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI James,
>I sure wish the next Gen of I-Macs or
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| Re: When.if you guys get ready to make the switch...... [message #93265 is a reply to message #93254] |
Sun, 02 December 2007 11:41 |
TCB
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/>
chique
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> hurting consumers as it keeps Apple's product prices higher, with less
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> range
>>>>>
>>>>> of price point competition, but for Apple customers, price doesn't
seem
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>> be a concern. Basically Apple has its' customers right where it wants
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Imho, it should be the other way around, and then we would truly have
>>>>>
>> more
>>
>>>>> choices.
>>>>>
>>>>> re: BeOS.... same here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>
>>>> Here we go again! Apple has desk top models under 2K. Apple's market
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> share
>>>> probably has more to do with ignorant people spewing ignorant things
about
>>>> Apple.
>>>>
>>>> Apple desk top models that start under 2K:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>> . 1GB memory
>>>> . 80GB hard drive1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $599.00
>>>> or as low as $15 a month
>>>>
>>>> . 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>> . 1GB memory
>>>> . 120GB hard drive1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $799.00
>>>> or as low as $19 a month
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> . 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>> . 1GB memory
>>>> . 250GB hard drive1
>>>> . 8x double-layer SuperDrive
>>>> . ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB memory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $1,199.00
>>>> or as low as $29 a month
>>>>
>>>> . 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>> . 1GB memory
>>>> . 320GB hard drive1
>>>> . 8x double-layer SuperDrive
>>>> . ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
>>>>
>>>> $1,499.00
>>>> or as low as $36 a month
>>>>
>>>> . 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
>>>> . 1GB memory
>>>> . 320GB hard drive1
>>>> . 8x double-layer SuperDrive
>>>> . ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memory
>>>>
>>>> $1,799.00
>>>> or as low as $43 a month
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or are we going to argue form factor?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4790eeca@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shelly's complaints, however generalized, pretty much echo that of
>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>
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