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It's been snowing here for two days [message #82299]

Thu, 29 March 2007 12:13

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

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t;>> I don't know if you have considered the other better option !!
>> >>> The L and R outputs of each mec (except for the main one) outputs
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>> >> =3D
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Re: It's been snowing here for two days [message #82301 is a reply to message #82299]

Thu, 29 March 2007 13:10

EK Sound

Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

>>MEC
>> >> =3D
>> >>>on
>> >>> card=3D20
>> >>> >A and just the submix of the MEC on card B and C. If you're just
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>> >>> >those submixes on the card B & C Mecs, you could route the =
>>headphone
>> >> =3D
>> >>>out
>> >>> of=3D20
>> >>> >those MECs to a pair of input channels on another MEC (or maybe
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Re: It's been snowing here for two days [message #82307 is a reply to message #82299]

Thu, 29 March 2007 14:03

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

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; <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>Ah I found it !!
>> >>> >>>I should connect the L and R to the Mec's outputs 1 and 2 to
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>>get
>> a
>> >> =3D
>> >>>signal
>> >>> >>>for the headphones !!
>> >>> >>>I am just using the dig

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Re: It's been snowing here for two days [message #82321 is a reply to message #82299]

Thu, 29 March 2007 20:00

gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

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>> has these and route them to the related mec's out into your =
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>> then back to your other mec. Is the headphone out of any quality
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>>
>> ? You can use also the digital outs to connect to a Pulsar VINCO=20
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=
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>> compressed drumtracks... what will you do ? You can of course =
>>record it=20
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>> you... Regards, Dimitrios "DJ" <<A=20
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Dimitrios,
I am still trying to understand how Faderworks or any other manual =
nudging
can time align these tracks? Let's say we are mixing a live drum mix =
from submix B.
Sending it's L&R outputs to SPDIF then inputing to MEC E. If we =
continue to monitor
live and don't print the drum mix in Mec E then nudging will continue to =
move the live
audio and you'll never be able to line up. If you print the the drum =
mix into MEC E
then it will work. If this is the case then we always could print a =
submix
by running it alone and bringing it back into Paris on any Mec.

What am I missing? ! ! !
Thanks for your patience,
Tom

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otNOSPAMenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:46389d56$1@linux...

Dear Tom,
I am not only saying but I am confirming !!
The L and R of all submixes except for the main one outputs the =
related submixes
mix.
You can have a 5 card Paris system where you sacrifice card 1 and use =
the
four other stereo mixes thru mex digital spdif output to a card like =
Scope
Pulsar and then insert on every submix your effects or outboard too.
You will just be mixing 4 stereo tracks under Pulsar which anyway is =
far
superior mixing engine than cubase nuendo and all that s..t.
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>I could have sworn that I tried the L&R outs of the Mecs and never =
got =3D
>signal.
>You are saying that gives you submix only data? This is crazy.
>I'll be experimenting today for sure.
>Tom
>
>After the Beatle Juice show I guess.
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr> wrote in message =3D
>news:46389187$1@linux...
>
> Yeah Dj,
> Why not then use the simple L R outputs in patch bay where every =
=3D
>submix has
> these and route them to the related mec's out into your compressor =
and
=3D
>then
> back to your other mec.
> Is the headphone out of any quality ?
> You can use also the digital outs to connect to a Pulsar VINCO =3D
>compressor
> and then back to other mec ...
>
> Well you have to note here.
> the audio coming in the other submix will be delayed to the non =3D
>compressed
> drumtracks... what will you do ?
> You can of course record it and then nudge or better use =
Faderworks...
>
> Ok so now you are tempted to come back to Paris or not ??
> We are waiting for you...
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> >Heheh!!! parallel compression in Paris through a headphone out. =
=3D
>Whoda'
>
> >thunk? Can't beliefve I never tried this when I was running 4 x =
=3D
>MECs. Just
>
> >use a card and separate MEC for drum submixes, grab yourself an =
=3D
>insert=3D20
> >cable, route the headphone out to a stereo compressor (maybe =3D
>sidechain
> to=3D20
> >an EQ to hipass the LF a little.............or maybe not) and =
return
=3D
>them
> to=3D20
> >the Paris inputs on a channel pair on a different MEC and you're =
=3D
>there.
>
> >Damn!!!....how simple is this?
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr> wrote in message=3D20
> >news:463853fb$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Dear Tom,
> >> ALSO L and R on each submix except for submix1 outputs only =
the =3D
>related
> >> submix so you can send it to a mec's out (24bit if you like) and =
=3D
>then
> out
> >> to your compressor.
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >>
> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Dimitrios are you serious?!?! It outputs the submix only on =
Cards
=3D
>B,
> C,
> >> =3D3D
> >>>D, E ???
> >>>I will be summing my drums and guitars from now on 20bit out of =
the
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>phones jack to my
> >>>outboard comps for sure!!!!!! Sweeeeeet! How come I never =
tried =3D
>it?
> >>>
> >>>I'm a dope,
> >>>Tom
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Dimitrios" <musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D3D
> >>>news:4638281d$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>> Hi DJ,
> >>> hehe I am already on that testing route even with the L R =
outputs
=3D
>of
> =3D3D
> >>>other
> >>> than card's a mecs...
> >>> Regarding the headphone outs the one on mec A which is the =
main =3D
>one
> =3D3D
> >>>outputs
> >>> all submixes, the other though ! output only the related =
submix =3D
>out
> so
> >> =3D3D
> >>>yes
> >>> you could route it to another mec but on same mec you would =
get =3D
>an =3D3D
> >>>infinite
> >>> loop of dry and compressed... because the time you will bring =
it
=3D
>back
> >> =3D3D
> >>>on
> >>> same mec that will be again outputed on headphones and then =
back
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>again...
> >>> you get the picture ,feedback.
> >>> Thed other mecs option though will work !!
> >>> I don't know if you have considered the other better option !!
> >>> The L and R outputs of each mec (except for the main one) =
outputs
=3D
>ALSO
> >> =3D3D
> >>>the
> >>> submix out so you can take this L and R out and send it to a =
pair
=3D
>of
> =3D3D
> >>>outputs
> >>> (digital to Pulsar ??) COMPRESS it and then send it back to =
=3D
>another
> =3D3D
> >>>submix.
> >>> For latency well you know faderworks ?? !!
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Dimitrios
> >>>
> >>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> >>> >Are you getting the same signal on all MECs or the mix signal =
on
=3D
>MEC
> >> =3D3D
> >>>on
> >>> card=3D3D20
> >>> >A and just the submix of the MEC on card B and C. If you're =
just
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>getting
> >>>
> >>> >those submixes on the card B & C Mecs, you could route the =
=3D
>headphone
> >> =3D3D
> >>>out
> >>> of=3D3D20
> >>> >those MECs to a pair of input channels on another MEC (or =
maybe
=3D
>even
> >> =3D3D
> >>>loop
> >>> it=3D3D20
> >>> >back to the same MEC) on a pair of record enabled channels =
and =3D
>=3D3D
> >>>compress
> >>> it,=3D3D20
> >>> >etc...........I can't believe I never tried this when I had 4 =
=3D
>MECs
> =3D3D
> >>>here..
> >>> >
> >>> >;o)
> >>> >
> >>> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr> wrote in =
message=3D3D20
> >>> >news:4637946e$1@linux...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Heh...
> >>> >> Works on all mecs !!
> >>> >> Dimitrios
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>Ah I found it !!
> >>> >>>I should connect the L and R to the Mec's outputs 1 and 2 =
to =3D
>get
> a
> >> =3D3D
> >>>signal
> >>> >>>for the headphones !!
> >>> >>>I am just using the digital out for monitoring thats why I =
=3D
>didn't
> =3D3D
> >>>get
> >>> any
> >>> >>>signal at the heaphone out !
> >>> >>>Thanks
> >>> >>>Dimitrios
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>Dimitrios,
> >>> >>>>You should only get the phone out active on the Submix A =
=3D
>Master
> =3D3D
> >>>MEC.
> >>> >>>>At least that's been my understanding. =3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>>Tom
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr> wrote in message =
=3D
>=3D3D3D
> >>> >>>>news:46377aa5$1@linux...
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Well first time I tried I get no signal whatsoever on =
any =3D
>=3D3D
> >>>headphone
> >>> =3D3D3D
> >>> >>>>out on
> >>> >>>> any of the three mecs I have !!
> >>> >>>> Is this a known bug again ??
> >>> >>>> Thanks
> >>> >>>> Dimitrios
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >>> >>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =3D
>Transitional//EN">
> >>> >>>><HTML><HEAD>
> >>> >>>><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
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> >>> >>>><STYLE></STYLE>
> >>> >>>></HEAD>
> >>> >>>><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >>> >>>><DIV>size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</DIV>
> >>> >>>><DIV>You should =
only get
=3D
>the phone
> >> =3D3D
> >>>out =3D3D3D
> >>> >>>>active on the=3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>>Submix A Master MEC.</DIV>
> >>> >>>><DIV>At least =
that's been
=3D
>my =3D3D3D
> >>> >>>>understanding. =3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>></DIV>
> >>> >>>><DIV>Tom</DIV>
> >>> >>>><DIV> =
</DIV>
> >>> >>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =3D
>MARGIN-LEFT: =3D3D
> >>>5px; =3D3D3D
> >>> >>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >>> >>>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>> =3D3D3D
> >>> =3D3D
> =3D
=
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> >>>A>>=3D3D3D
> >>> >>>> wrote=3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>> in message <A=3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>> =3D3D3D
> >>> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>>>>>href=3D3D3D3D"news:46377aa5$1@linux">news:46377aa5$1@linux</A>...=
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>IV><B=3D3D
> >>>R>Well=3D3D3D
> >>> >>>> first=3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>> time I tried I get no signal whatsoever on any headphone =
=3D
>out =3D3D
> >>>on any
> >>> >>>=3D3D3D
> >>> >>>>of the=3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>> three mecs I have !! Is this a known bug =
again=3D3D3D20
> >>> >>>>?? Thanks Dimitrios</BLOCKQUOTE>
> >>> >>>><DIV> I choose Polesoft =
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=3D
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> >> =3D3D
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> >>> =3D3D3D
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> >>> >>>>
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> >>>
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> >>><META http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html; =
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> >>><BODY bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff>
> >>><DIV>Dimitrios are you =
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> >>>outputs the=3D3D20
> >>>submix only on Cards B, C, D, E ???</DIV>
> >>><DIV>I will be summing my =
drums and
=3D
>guitars
> >> =3D3D
> >>>from now on=3D3D20
> >>>20bit out of the phones jack to my</DIV>
> >>><DIV>outboard comps for =
sure!!!!!!
=3D
>=3D3D20
> >>>Sweeeeeet! How come I never tried it?</DIV>
> >>><DIV> </DIV>
> >>><DIV>I'm a =
dope,</DIV>
> >>><DIV>Tom</DIV>
> >>><DIV> </DIV>
> >>><DIV> </DIV>
> >>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20
> >>>style=3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
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>=3D3D
> >>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> =3D
=
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<BR=3D
>>Hi=3D3D20
> >>> DJ, hehe I am already on that testing route even with the L =
R
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>outputs of=3D3D20
> >>> other than card's a mecs... Regarding the headphone outs =
=3D
>the one
> >> =3D3D
> >>>on mec=3D3D20
> >>> A which is the main one outputs all submixes, the other =
though
=3D
>!
> =3D3D
> >>>output=3D3D20
> >>> only the related submix out so yes you could route it to =
=3D
>another
> =3D3D
> >>>mec but on=3D3D20
> >>> same mec you would get an infinite loop of dry and =3D
>compressed...
> =3D3D
> >>>because=3D3D20
> >>> the time you will bring it back on same mec that will be =
again
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>outputed on=3D3D20
> >>> headphones and then back again... you get the picture =3D3D
> >>>,feedback. Thed=3D3D20
> >>> other mecs option though will work !! I don't know if you =
have
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>considered=3D3D20
> >>> the other better option !! The L and R outputs of each mec =
=3D
>(except
> >> =3D3D
> >>>for the=3D3D20
> >>> main one) outputs ALSO the submix out so you can take this =
L =3D
>and
> R
> >> =3D3D
> >>>out and=3D3D20
> >>> send it to a pair of outputs (digital to Pulsar ??) =
COMPRESS =3D
>it and
> >> =3D3D
> >>>then=3D3D20
> >>> send it back to another submix. For latency well you know =
=3D3D
> >>>faderworks ??=3D3D20
> >>> !! Regards, Dimitrios "DJ" <<A=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> =3D
=
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>=3D3D20
> >>> wrote: >Are you getting the same signal on all MECs or the =
mix
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>signal on=3D3D20
> >>> MEC on card >A and just the submix of the MEC on card B =
=3D
>and =3D3D
> >>>C. If=3D3D20
> >>> you're just getting >those submixes on the card B & C =
=3D3D
> >>>Mecs, you=3D3D20
> >>> could route the headphone out of >those MECs to a pair =
of
=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>input=3D3D20
> >>> channels on another MEC (or maybe even loop it >back to =
=3D
>the =3D3D
> >>>same=3D3D20
> >>> MEC) on a pair of record enabled channels and =3D
>compress it,=3D3D20
> >>> >etc...........I can't believe I never tried this when I =
had
=3D
>4 =3D3D
> >>>MECs=3D3D20
> >>> here.. > >;o) > >"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> =3D
=
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> >>> wrote=3D3D20
> >>> in message >news:4637946e$1@linux... >> >>=3D3D20
> >>> Heh... >> Works on all mecs !! >>=3D3D20
> >>> Dimitrios >> >> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20
> >>> =
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> >>> wrote: >>> >>>Ah I found it =3D3D
> >>>!! >>>I should=3D3D20
> >>> connect the L and R to the Mec's outputs 1 and 2 to get =
a=3D3D20
> >>> signal >>>for the headphones !! >>>I am just =3D3D
> >>>using the=3D3D20
> >>> digital out for monitoring thats why I didn't =3D3D
> >>>get any >>>signal=3D3D20
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> >>>! >>>Thanks >>>Dimitrios >>> >&=3D3D
> >>>gt;>"Tom=3D3D20
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> =
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> >>>os, >>>>You=3D3D20
> >>> should only get the phone out active on the Submix A =
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> >>> Well first time I tried I get no signal whatsoever on =
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> >>> headphone =3D3D3D >>>>out on >>>> =3D3D
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> >>> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>you? >>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html >>>=3D3D
> >>>;> >>>><!DOCTYPE=3D3D20
> >>> HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>Transitional//EN"> >>>><HTML><HEAD> >=3D3D
> >>>>>><META=3D3D20
> >>> http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =
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> >>>;META=3D3D20
> >>> content=3D3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>name=3D3D3D3DGENERATOR> >>>><STYLE></STYLE> =3D3D
> >>>>>>></HEAD> >>>><BODY=3D3D20
> >>> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff> >>>><DIV> >>>face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</DIV> >>>><=3D3D
> >>>DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >>> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>You should only get the =
phone =3D
>out=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D3D >>>>active on the=3D3D3D20 >>>>Submix A =3D3D
> >>>Master=3D3D20
> >>> MEC.</DIV> >>>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >>> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>At least that's been =
my=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D3D >>>>understanding.=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D3D20 >>>></DIV> >>>><=3D3D
> >>>;DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >>> face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</DIV> >>>><DIV>=3D3D
> >>><FONT=3D3D20
> >>> face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>></DIV> >>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20 >>>>st=3D3D
> >>>yle=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D3D20
> >>> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D3D >>>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D3D20
> >>> #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >>>> =3D3D20
> >>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D20 >>>> =3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D3D >>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D'mailto:musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr">musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr=
</A=3D
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> =
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> >>>t;=3D3D3D >>>>=3D3D20
> >>> wrote=3D3D3D20 >>>> in message=3D3D20
> >>> <A=3D3D3D20 >>>> =3D3D
> >>>=3D3D3D >>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>href=3D3D3D'news:46377aa5$1@linux">news:46377aa5$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
<BR=3D
>>Well=3D3D
> >>>'>news:46377aa5$1@linux">news:46377aa5$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=3D3D
> >>>; Well</A>=3D3D3D >>>>=3D3D20
> >>> first=3D3D3D20 >>>> time I tried I get no signal =3D3D
> >>>whatsoever on=3D3D20
> >>> any headphone out =3D3D
> >>>on any >>>=3D3D3D >>>>of=3D3D20
> >>> the=3D3D3D20 >>>> three mecs I have !! Is =3D3D
> >>>this a known=3D3D20
> >>> bug=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>again=3D3D3D20 >>>>?? Thanks Dimitrios</B=3D3D
> >>>LOCKQUOTE> >>>><DIV><FONT=3D3D20
> >>> size=3D3D3D3D2> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to =
fight=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>>spam, =3D3D3D >>>>and=3D3D3D20 >>>>you? =3D3D
> >>>;<A=3D3D3D20 >>>>href=3D3D3D3D"<A=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> =3D
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>>>>href=3D3D3D'http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.c=
om/=3D
>refer=3D3D
> =3D
=
>>>>'>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer</=
A=3D
>=3D3D
> >>>>=3D3D3D >>>>.html</A>=3D3D20
> >>> =3D3D
> >>></DIV></BODY></HTML> >>>><B=3D3D
> >>>R>>>>> >>> >>=3D3D20
> >>> > > </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>=3D20
> >
> >
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
>charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
><DIV>Dimitrios,</DIV>
><DIV>I could have sworn that I tried =
the =3D
>L&R outs of=3D20
>the Mecs and never got signal.</DIV>
><DIV>You are saying that gives you =
submix =3D
>only=3D20
>data? This is crazy.</DIV>
><DIV>I'll be experimenting today for =
=3D
>sure.</DIV>
><DIV>Tom</DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><DIV>After the Beatle Juice show I =
=3D
>guess.</DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> =
href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr</A>> =3D
>wrote in=3D20
> message <A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:46389187$1@linux">news:46389187$1@linux</A>...</DIV> Y=
eah=3D
>=3D20
> Dj, Why not then use the simple L R outputs in patch bay where =
=3D
>every submix=3D20
> has these and route them to the related mec's out into your =3D
>compressor and=3D20
> then back to your other mec. Is the headphone out of any =
quality
=3D
>
> ? You can use also the digital outs to connect to a Pulsar =
VINCO=3D20
> compressor and then back to other mec ... Well you have =
to =3D
>note=3D20
> here. the audio coming in the other submix will be delayed to =
the =3D
>non=3D20
> compressed drumtracks... what will you do ? You can of course =
=3D
>record it=3D20
> and then nudge or better use Faderworks... Ok so now you are =
=3D
>tempted to=3D20
> come back to Paris or not ?? We are waiting for=3D20
> you... Regards, Dimitrios "DJ" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=3D=
20
> wrote: >Heheh!!! parallel compression in Paris through a =3D
>headphone=3D20
> out. Whoda' >thunk? Can't beliefve I never tried =3D
>this =3D20
> when I was running 4 x MECs. Just >use a card and separate =
=3D
>MEC for=3D20
> drum submixes, grab yourself an insert >cable, route the =3D
>headphone out=3D20
> to a stereo compressor (maybe sidechain to >an EQ to =3D
>hipass=3D20
> the LF a little.............or maybe not) and return them to =3D
> >the=3D20
> Paris inputs on a channel pair on a different MEC and you're=3D20
> there. >Damn!!!....how simple is=3D20
> this? > >;o) > >"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A>>=
=3D
> wrote=3D20
> in message >news:463853fb$1@linux... >> >> =3D
>Dear=3D20
> Tom, >> ALSO L and R on each submix except for =3D
>submix1=3D20
> outputs only the related >> submix so you can send it to a =3D
>mec's out=3D20
> (24bit if you like) and then out >> to your=3D20
> compressor. >> Regards, >> =3D
>Dimitrios >> >>=3D20
> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote: >>> >>> >>>Dimitrios are =3D
>you=3D20
> serious?!?! It outputs the submix only on Cards =3D
>B, C, >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>D, E ??? >>>I will be summing my drums =3D
>and=3D20
> guitars from now on 20bit out of the =3D3D >>>phones jack to =3D
>
> my >>>outboard comps for sure!!!!!! Sweeeeeet! =3D
>How=3D20
> come I never tried it? >>> >>>I'm a=3D20
> =3D
>dope, >>>Tom >>> >>> >>>&=3D
>nbsp;=3D20
> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr">musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr</A>>=
=3D
> wrote=3D20
> in message=3D20
> =3D
>=3D3D >>>news:4638281d$1@linux... >>> >>&g=3D
>t; =3D20
> Hi DJ, >>> hehe I am already on that testing route =3D
>even with=3D20
> the L R outputs of =3D3D >>>other >>> =3D
>than card's=3D20
> a mecs... >>> Regarding the headphone outs the one =3D
>on mec A=3D20
> which is the main =3D
>one =3D3D >>>outputs >>> all=3D20
> submixes, the other though ! output only the related submix=3D20
> out so >> =3D3D >>>yes >>> you =3D
>could=3D20
> route it to another mec but on same mec you would get an=3D20
> =3D3D >>>infinite >>> loop of dry and =3D
>compressed...=3D20
> because the time you will bring it back >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>on >>> same mec that will be =3D
>again outputed=3D20
> on headphones and then back =3D
>=3D3D >>>again... >>> =3D20
> you get the picture ,feedback. >>> Thed other mecs =3D
>option=3D20
> though will work !! >>> I don't know if you have =3D
>considered=3D20
> the other better option !! >>> The L and R outputs =3D
>of each=3D20
> mec (except for the main one) outputs ALSO >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>the >>> submix out so you can =3D
>take this L=3D20
> and R out and send it to a pair=3D20
> of =3D3D >>>outputs >>> (digital to =3D
>Pulsar ??)=3D20
> COMPRESS it and then send it back to=3D20
> another =3D3D >>>submix. >>> For =3D
>latency well you=3D20
> know faderworks ?? !! >>> =3D
>Regards, >>> =3D20
> Dimitrios >>> >>> "DJ" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=3D=
20
> wrote: >>> >Are you getting the same signal on =3D
>all MECs=3D20
> or the mix signal on MEC >> =3D
>=3D3D >>>on >>> =3D20
> card=3D3D20 >>> >A and just the submix of the MEC =3D
>on card B=3D20
> and C. If you're just=3D20
> =3D3D >>>getting >>> >>> =3D
>>those=3D20
> submixes on the card B & C Mecs, you could route the =3D
>headphone >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>out >>> =3D
>of=3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> >those MECs to a pair of input channels on another MEC (or =
maybe=3D20
> even >> =3D3D >>>loop >>> =3D20
> it=3D3D20 >>> >back to the same MEC) on a pair of =3D
>record=3D20
> enabled channels and =3D3D >>>compress >>> =3D
>
> it,=3D3D20 >>> >etc...........I can't believe I =3D
>never tried=3D20
> this when I had 4 =3D
>MECs =3D3D >>>here.. >>> =3D20
> > >>> >;o) >>> =3D20
> > >>> >"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A>>=
=3D
> wrote=3D20
> in message=3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> >news:4637946e$1@linux... >>> =3D20
> >> >>> >> Heh... >>> =3D
>>>=3D20
> Works on all mecs !! >>> >>=3D20
> Dimitrios >>> >> >>> =3D
>>>=3D20
> "Dimitrios" <<A =3D
>href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20
> wrote: >>> >>> >>> =3D
>>>>Ah=3D20
> I found it !! >>> >>>I should connect the L =3D
>and R=3D20
> to the Mec's outputs 1 and 2 to get a >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>signal >>> >>>for the =3D
>headphones=3D20
> !! >>> >>>I am just using the digital out =3D
>for=3D20
> monitoring thats why I =3D
>didn't =3D3D >>>get >>> =3D20
> any >>> >>>signal at the heaphone out=3D20
> ! >>> >>>Thanks >>> =3D20
> >>>Dimitrios >>> =3D
>>>> >>> =3D20
> >>>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> =3D20
> >>>> >>> =3D20
> >>>>Dimitrios, >>> >>>>You =3D
>should=3D20
> only get the phone out active on the Submix A=3D20
> Master =3D3D >>>MEC. >>> =3D
>>>>>At least=3D20
> that's been my understanding. =3D3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> >>>>Tom >>> =3D20
> >>>> >>> >>>> =3D
>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> <<A =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr">musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr</A>>=
=3D
>=3D20
> wrote in message =3D3D3D >>> =3D20
> >>>>news:46377aa5$1@linux... >>> =3D20
> >>>> >>> >>>> Well =3D
>first time=3D20
> I tried I get no signal whatsoever on any=3D20
> =3D3D >>>headphone >>> =3D
>=3D3D3D >>> =3D20
> >>>>out on >>> >>>> =3D
>any of the=3D20
> three mecs I have !! >>> >>>> Is =3D
>this a=3D20
> known bug again ?? >>> >>>> =3D20
> Thanks >>> >>>> =3D20
> Dimitrios >>> >>>> >>> =3D
>
> >>>> >>> >>>>I choose =3D
>Polesoft=3D20
> Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >>> =3D20
> =3D
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html >>> =3D
>
> >>>> >>> >>>><!DOCTYPE =3D
>HTML=3D20
> PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =3D
>Transitional//EN"> >>> =3D20
> >>>><HTML><HEAD> >>> =3D20
> >>>><META http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type =3D
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> bgColor=3D3D3D3D#ffffff> >>> =3D20
> >>>><DIV> =3D
>size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</DIV> >>> =3D
>=3D20
> >>>><DIV>size=3D3D3D3D2>You should=3D20
> only get the phone >> =3D3D >>>out =3D
>=3D3D3D >>> =3D20
> >>>>active on the=3D3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> >>>>Submix A Master=3D20
> MEC.</DIV> >>> =3D20
> >>>><DIV>size=3D3D3D3D2>At least=3D20
> that's been my =3D3D3D >>> =3D
>>>>>understanding.=3D20
> =3D3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> >>>></DIV> >>> =3D20
> >>>><DIV> size=3D3D3D3D2>Tom</DIV> >>> =3D20
> >>>><DIV>size=3D3D3D3D2>=3D20
> </DIV> >>> =3D20
> >>>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> >>>>style=3D3D3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =3D
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> >>>> <DIV>"Dimitrios"=3D20
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></A>=3D3D >>>R>Well=3D3D3D >>> =3D20
> >>>> first=3D3D3D20 >>> =3D
>>>>> time=3D20
> I tried I get no signal whatsoever on any headphone out=3D20
> =3D3D >>>on any >>> =3D20
> >>>=3D3D3D >>> >>>>of=3D20
> the=3D3D3D20 >>> >>>> three mecs I =3D
>have=3D20
> !! Is this a known bug again=3D3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> =3D
>>>>>?? Thanks Dimitrios</BLOCKQUOTE><=3D
>BR>>>> =3D20
> >>>><DIV>size=3D3D3D3D2> I choose=3D20
> Polesoft Lockspam to fight >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>spam, >>> =3D
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> >>> >>> >>=3D3D20 >>> =3D
>
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> > >>> >>> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML =3D
>PUBLIC=3D20
> "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0=3D20
> =3D
>Transitional//EN"> >>><HTML><HEAD> >>=3D
>><META=3D20
> http-equiv=3D3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D3D"text/html;=3D20
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>
> content=3D3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400"=3D20
> =3D
>name=3D3D3DGENERATOR> >>><STYLE></STYLE> >=3D
>>></HEAD> >>><BODY=3D20
> bgColor=3D3D3D#ffffff> >>><DIV>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>Dimitrios are you serious?!?! It =3D
>=3D3D >>>outputs=3D20
> the=3D3D20 >>>submix only on Cards B, C, D, E=3D20
> ???</DIV> >>><DIV>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>I will be summing my drums and guitars >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>from now on=3D3D20 >>>20bit out of the =3D
>phones jack to=3D20
> my</DIV> >>><DIV>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2>outboard comps for sure!!!!!! =3D
>=3D3D20 >>>Sweeeeeet! How=3D20
> come I never tried=3D20
> it?</DIV> >>><DIV>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> size=3D3D3D2> =3D
></DIV> >>><DIV><FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>I'm a=3D20
> dope,</DIV> >>><DIV>face=3D3D3DArial=3D20
> =3D
>size=3D3D3D2>Tom</DIV> >>><DIV><=3D
>FONT=3D20
> face=3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D2>=3D20
> </DIV> >>><DIV> size=3D3D3D2>=3D20
> =3D
></DIV> >>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D3D20 >>>style=3D3D3D=3D
>"PADDING-RIGHT:=3D20
> 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D
>=3D3D >>>BORDER-LEFT:=3D20
> #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >>> =3D20
> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> =3D3D >>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
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>t;=3D3D >>>=3D20
> wrote=3D3D20 >>> in message =3D
><A=3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> =3D3D >>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D'news:4638281d$1@linux">news:4638281d$1@linux</A>...</DIV> H=
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>gt; Hi=3D3D20</A> >>> =3D20
> DJ, hehe I am already on that testing route even with the L R =
=3D
>
> =3D3D >>>outputs of=3D3D20 >>> =3D
>other than=3D20
> card's a mecs... Regarding the headphone outs the =3D
>one >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>on mec=3D3D20 >>> A which is the =3D
>main one=3D20
> outputs all submixes, the other though=3D20
> ! =3D3D >>>output=3D3D20 >>> only the =3D
>related submix=3D20
> out so yes you could route it to =3D
>another =3D3D >>>mec but=3D20
> on=3D3D20 >>> same mec you would get an =3D
>infinite loop=3D20
> of dry and =3D
>compressed... =3D3D >>>because=3D3D20 >>> =3D20
> the time you will bring it back on same mec that will be =3D
>again=3D20
> =3D3D >>>outputed on=3D3D20 >>> headphones =3D
>and then back=3D20
> again... you get the picture=3D20
> =3D3D >>>,feedback. Thed=3D3D20 >>> =3D
>other mecs=3D20
> option though will work !! I don't know if you have=3D20
> =3D3D >>>considered=3D3D20 >>> the other =3D
>better option=3D20
> !! The L and R outputs of each mec (except >>=3D20
> =3D3D >>>for the=3D3D20 >>> main one) =3D
>outputs ALSO=3D20
> the submix out so you can take this L and R >>=3D20
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>=3D3D >>>faderworks=3D20
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> !! Regards, Dimitrios "DJ"=3D20
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>on card=3D20
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> getting >those submixes on the card B & C=3D20
> =3D3D >>>Mecs, you=3D3D20 >>> could route =3D
>the headphone=3D20
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<DIV>Dimitrios,</DIV>
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Faderworks or=20
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Let's say we are=20
mixing a live drum mix from submix B.</DIV>
<DIV>Sending it's L&R outputs to SPDIF =
then inputing=20
to MEC E.  If we continue to monitor</DIV>
<DIV>live and don't print the drum mix in =
Mec E then=20
nudging will continue to move the live</DIV>
<DIV>audio and you'll never be able to line =
up.  If=20
you print the the drum mix into MEC E</DIV>
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case then=20
we always could print a submix</DIV>
<DIV>by running it alone and bringing it =
back into Paris=20
on any Mec.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What am I missing? ! ! !</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for your patience,</DIV>
<DIV>Tom</DIV>
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p;=20
>>>getting >  >>> > =20
>>>  >those submixes on the card B & C Mecs, you =
could=20
route the =3D >headphone >  >> =
=3D3D > =20
>>>out >  >>>  =
of=3D3D20 > =20
>>>  >those MECs to a pair of input channels on =
another MEC=20
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mp;gt;>  =
it=3D3D20 > =20
>>>  >back to the same MEC) on a pair of record =
enabled=20
channels and =3D >=3D3D >  =
>>>compress > =20
>>>  it,=3D3D20 >  >>> =20
>etc...........I can't believe I never tried this when I had 4=20
=3D >MECs >  =3D3D >  =
>>>here.. > =20
>>>  > >  >>>  =
>;o) > =20
>>>  > >  >>>  =
>"Dimitrios"=20
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href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A>>=
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wrote in message=3D3D20 >  >>> =20
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; =20
>>>  >>>> >  >>> =20
>>>>  "Dimitrios" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr">musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr</A>>=
wrote=20
in message =3D >=3D3D3D >  >>> =20
>>>>news:46377aa5$1@linux... >  =
>>> =20
>>>> >  >>>  =
>>>>  Well=20
first time I tried I get no signal whatsoever on any=20
=3D >=3D3D >  >>>headphone > =20
>>>  =3D3D3D >  >>>  =
>>>>out=20
on >  >>>  >>>>  any of the =
three=20
mecs I have !! >  >>>  >>>>  =
Is this=20
a known bug again ?? >  >>>  =
>>>> =20
Thanks >  >>>  >>>> =20
Dimitrios >  >>>  =
>>>> > =20
>>>  >>>> >  >>> =20
>>>&a

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gt;  >>>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid;=20
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >  >>>  =
>>>> =20
<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D3D3D20 >  =
>>> =20
>>>>  =3D3D3D >  >>> =20
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=3D >>>>>>>& ;gt;href=3D3D3D3D "

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;<A=20
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href=3D'mailto:musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr">musurgio@NOSPAMotenet'>mailto:mu=
surgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr">musurgio@NOSPAMotenet</A>=3D >.gr</=3D=
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>>>R>Well=3D3D3D >  >>>  =
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tried I get no signal whatsoever on any headphone =3D >out=20
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>>> =20
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the=3D3D3D20 >  >>>  >>>>  =
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>>>>?? Thanks&a mp;lt;BR>Dimitrios</BLOCKQUOTE> <=
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&n=
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>>> =20
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/> 6.00.2800.1400"=3D3D20 >  >>>  =
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MEC.</DIV><BR& gt;>>>><DIV>&l t;FON=
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>>>  face=3D3D3D3DArial size=3D3D3D3D2>At least =
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on=3D3D20 > =20
>>>  any headphone out =3D3D > =20
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>>>on any<BR&am p;gt;>>>=3D3D3D &g t;&gt=
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>>>  the=3D3D3D20 >>>&g t; three mecs I =
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>>>  bug=3D3D20 >  >>>  =
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>>> >  >>> > =20
>>=3D20 >  > > =20
> > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML =
4.0=20
Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> ><META=20
http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html;=20
=3D >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> ><META =
content=3D3D"MSHTML=20
6.00.2800.1400"=20
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name=3D3DGENERATOR> ><STYLE></STYLE> ></HEA=
D> ><BODY=20
bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> ><DIV>Dimitrios,</DI V> ><DIV><F=
ONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I could have sworn that I tried the =
=3D >L&R=20
outs of=3D20 >the Mecs and never got=20
signal.</DIV> ><DIV>You are saying that gives you submix =
=3D >only=3D20 >data?=20
This is crazy.</DIV> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll be experimenting today for=20
=3D >sure.</DIV> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>Tom</DIV&g t; ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2> =
</DIV> ><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>After the Beatle Juice show I=20
=
=3D >guess.</DIV> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 =
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D >BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> >  <DIV>"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20 >  href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr</A'>mailto:=
musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSP.gr</A</A>>>=20
=3D >wrote in=3D20 >  message =
<A=3D20 > =20
=3D >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:46389187$1@linux">news:46389187$1@linux</A>...</DIV> Yeah=
'>news:46389187$1@linux">news:46389187$1@linux</A>...</DIV&gt=
; Yeah</A>=3D >=3D20 > =20
Dj, Why not then use the simple L R outputs in patch bay =
where=20
=3D >every submix=3D20 >  has these and =
route them to=20
the related mec's out into your =3D >compressor =
and=3D20 > =20
then back to your other mec. Is the headphone out of =
any=20
quality =3D > >  ? You can use also the =
digital=20
outs to connect to a Pulsar VINCO=3D20 >  =
compressor and=20
then back to other mec ... Well you have to=20
=3D >note=3D20 >  here. the audio coming in =
the other=20
submix will be delayed to the =3D >non=3D20 > =20
compressed drumtracks... what will you do ? You can =
of=20
course =3D >record it=3D20 >  and then nudge or =
better use=20
Faderworks... Ok so now you are =3D >tempted=20
to=3D20 >  come back to Paris or not ?? We are =
waiting=20
for=3D20 > =20
you... Regards, Dimitrios& amp;lt;BR> "DJ"=20
<<A=3D20 >  =3D >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=3D20=
'>http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>&gt=
;=3D20</A> > =20
wrote: >Heheh!!! parallel compression in Paris through a=20
=3D >headphone=3D20 >  out. =
Whoda' >thunk?=20
Can't beliefve I never tried =3D >this =3D20 >  when =
I was=20
running 4 x MECs. Just >use a card and separate=20
=3D >MEC for=3D20 >  drum submixes, grab yourself an =
insert=20
 >cable, route the =3D >headphone =
out=3D20 >  to a=20
stereo compressor (maybe sidechain to >an EQ to=20
=3D >hipass=3D20 >  the LF a little.............or =
maybe not) and=20
return them to =
=3D > >the=3D20 >  Paris=20
inputs on a channel pair on a different MEC and =
you're=3D20 > =20
there. >Damn!!!... .how simple =
is=3D20 > =20
=
this? > >;o) > > "Dimitrio=
s"=20
<<A=3D20 >  =3D >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A'>mai=
lto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A</A>>&g=
t;=3D >=20
wrote=3D20 >  in message=20
=
 >news:463853fb$1@linux... >> > &gt=
;=20
=3D >Dear=3D20 >  Tom, >> ALSO L and R =
on each=20
submix except for =3D >submix1=3D20 >  outputs only =
the=20
related >> submix so you can send it to a =
=3D >mec's=20
out=3D20 >  (24bit if you like) and=20
then out >> to your=3D20 > =20
compressor. >> Regards, >>=20
=
=3D >Dimitrios >>>>=3D20 >&nbs=
p; "Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D20 >  href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A> &g=
t; =20
=
wrote: >>><BR&a mp;gt;>>> >& ;gt;>D=
imitrios=20
are =3D >you=3D20 >  serious?!?! It outputs the =
submix only on=20
Cards =3D >B, C, >& ;gt;=3D20 > =20
=3D3D >>>D, E ??? >>>I will be =
summing my=20
drums =3D >and=3D20 >  guitars from now on 20bit out =
of the=20
=3D3D >>>phones jack to =3D > > =20
my >>>outboard comps for sure!!!!!! Sweeeeeet!=20
=3D >How=3D20 >  come I never tried=20
it? >>><BR& gt;>>>I'm =
a=3D20 > =20
=
=3D >dope, >>>Tom&a mp;lt;BR>>>> =
>>> >>&a mp;gt;&=3D >nbsp;=3D20 >&nbsp=
;=20
"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20 >  =3D >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr">musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr</A'>mai=
lto:musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr">musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr</A</A>>&g=
t;=3D >=20
wrote=3D20 >  in message=3D20 > =20
=
=3D >=3D3D >>>news: 4638281d$1@linux... &=
gt;>> >>&am p;g=3D >t;=20
=3D20 >  Hi DJ, >>> hehe I am already on =
that=20
testing route =3D >even with=3D20 >  the L R outputs=20
of =3D3D >>& amp;gt;other >>> =
=3D >than=20
card's=3D20 >  a mecs... >>> Regarding =
the=20
headphone outs the one =3D >on mec A=3D20 >  which is =
the main=20
=
=3D >one =3D3D > >>outputs >&=
gt;>=20
all=3D20 >  submixes, the other though ! output only the =
related=20
submix=3D20 >  out so >>=20
=3D3D >>>yes >>> you=20
=3D >could=3D20 >  route it to another mec but on =
same mec you=20
would get an=3D20 > =20
=3D3D >>>infinite& lt;BR>>>> loop of dry =
and=20
=3D >compressed...=3D20 >  because the time you will =
bring it=20
back >>=3D20 > =20
=3D3D >>>on<BR& amp;gt;>>> same mec that will =
be=20
=3D >again outputed=3D20 >  on headphones and then =
back=20
=3D >=3D3D >>>again ... >>>=20
=3D20 >  you get the picture =
,feedback. >>> Thed=20
other mecs =3D >option=3D20 >  though will work=20
!! >>> I don't know if you have=20
=3D >considered=3D20 >  the other better option=20
!! >>> The L and R outputs =3D >of =
each=3D20 > =20
mec (except for the main one) outputs =
ALSO >>=3D20 > =20
=3D3D >>>the >>> submix out so you =
can=20
=3D >take this L=3D20 >  and R out and send it to a=20
pair=3D20 > =20
of =3D3D >>& amp;gt;outputs >>> =
(digital to=20
=3D >Pulsar ??)=3D20 >  COMPRESS it and then send it =
back=20
to=3D20 > =20
=
another =3D3D >& ;gt;>submix. >>&gt ;=
For=20
=3D >latency well you=3D20 >  know faderworks ??=20
!! >>> =3D >Regards, >>>=2 0
=3D20 >  =
Dimitrios >>>>>> "DJ"=20
<<A=3D20 >  =3D >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>>=3D20=
'>http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>&gt=
;=3D20</A> > =20
wrote: >>> >Are you getting the same signal on=20
=3D >all MECs=3D20 >  or the mix signal on =
MEC >>=20
=3D >=3D3D >>>on&am p;lt;BR>>>> =
=3D20 > =20
card=3D3D20 >>> >A and just the submix of the MEC =

=3D >on card B=3D20 >  and C. If you're =
just=3D20 > =20
=
=3D3D >>>getting&l t;BR>>>> &g t;&gt=
;>=20
=3D >>those=3D20 >  submixes on the card B & C =
Mecs, you=20
could route the =
=3D >headphone >>=3D20 > =20
=3D3D >>>out >>>=20
=3D >of=3D3D20 >>> =3D20 >  =
>those MECs to a=20
pair of input channels on another MEC (or maybe=3D20 > =20
even >> =
=3D3D >>>loop>>>=20
=3D20 >  it=3D3D20 >>> >back to the =
same MEC) on a=20
pair of =3D >record=3D20 >  enabled channels and=20
=3D3D >>>compress& lt;BR>>>>=20
=3D > >  it,=3D3D20 >>> =
>etc...........I=20
can't believe I =3D >never tried=3D20 >  this when I =
had 4=20
=
=3D >MECs =3D3D &gt ;>>here.. >&=
gt;>=20
=3D20 >  > >>> =
>;o) >>>=20
=3D20 >  > >>> >"Dimitrios"=20
<<A=3D20 >  =3D >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A'>mai=
lto:musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr">musurgio@otenetNOSPAM.gr</A</A>>&g=
t;=3D >=20
wrote=3D20 >  in message=3D3D20 >>> =
=3D20 > =20
>news:4637946e$1@linux... >>> =3D20 >  =

>> >>> >> Heh... >>>=20
=3D >>>=3D20 >  Works on all mecs =
!! >>>=20
>>=3D20 >  Dimitrios >>>=20
>> >>> =3D >>>=3D20 >  =
"Dimitrios"=20
<<A =3D >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20'>mailto:m=
usurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>>=3D20</A> >&n=
bsp;=20
wrote: >>> >>> >>&a mp;gt;=20
=3D >>>>Ah=3D20 >  I found it =
!! >>>=20
>>>I should connect the L =3D >and R=3D20 >  =
to the=20
Mec's outputs 1 and 2 to =
get a >>=3D2 0 > =20
=3D3D >>>signal&lt ;BR>>>> =
>>>for the=20
=3D >headphones=3D20 >  !! >>> =
>>>I am=20
just using the digital out =3D >for=3D20 >  =
monitoring thats why=20
I =
=3D >didn't =3D3D & gt;>>get >&g=
t;>=20
=3D20 >  any >>> >>>signal at =
the heaphone=20
out=3D20 >  ! >>>=20
>>>Thanks >& ;gt;> =3D20 > =20
>>>Dimitrios >& amp;gt;>=20
=3D >>>> >&a mp;gt;> =3D20 >  =
>>>"Tom=20
Bruhl" <<A=3D20 >  href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20'>mailto=
:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20</A> &g=
t; =20
wrote: >>> >>>> >&a mp;gt;>=20
=3D20 >  >>>> >&a mp;gt;> =
=3D20 > =20
>>>>Dimitrios, >>> >>>>You=20
=3D >should=3D20 >  only get the phone out active on =
the Submix=20
A=3D20 > =20
Master =3D3D >& gt;>MEC. >>>=20
=3D >>>>>At least=3D20 >  that's been my=20
understanding. =3D3D3D20 >>> =3D20 > =20
>>>>Tom &gt ;>> =3D20 > =20
>>>> >&a mp;gt;> >>>>=20
=3D >"Dimitrios"=3D20 >  <<A =
=3D >href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr">musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr</A'>mai=
lto:musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr">musurgio@NOSPAMotenet.gr</A</A>>&g=
t;=3D >=3D20 > =20
wrote in message =3D3D3D >>> =3D20 > =20
>>>>news:46377aa5$1@linux... >>>=20
=3D20 >  >>>> >&a mp;gt;> =
>>>> Well=20
=3D >first time=3D20 >  I tried I get no signal =
whatsoever on=20
any=3D20 >  =
=3D3D >>>headphone& ;lt;BR>>>>=20
=3D >=3D3D3D >>> =3D20 >  =
>>>>out=20
on >>> >>>> =3D >any of =
the=3D20 > =20
three mecs I have !! >>> >>>> Is =
=3D >this=20
a=3D20 >  known bug again ?? >>> =
>>>>=20
=3D20 >  Thanks >>> >>>>=20
=3D20 >  Dimitrios >>>=20
>>>> >&a mp;gt;> =3D > > =20
>>>> >&a mp;gt;> >>>>I choose=20
=3D >Polesoft=3D20 >  Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you? >>> =3D20 > =20
=
=3D >>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html &g=
t;>>=20
=3D > >  >>>> >&a mp;gt;>=20
>>>><!DOCTYPE =3D >HTML=3D20 >  PUBLIC =

"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 =
=3D >Transitional//EN"> >>>=20
=3D20 > =20
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http-equiv=3D3D3D3DContent-Type=20
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>>>></HEAD>&lt ;BR>>>>=20
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>>>><DIV><F ONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=3D20 > =20
=
=3D >size=3D3D3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT&gt ;</DIV><BR&gt=
;>>>=20
=3D >=3D20 >  >>>><DIV><F ONT=20
face=3D3D3D3DArial =3D >size=3D3D3D3D2>You =
should=3D20 >  only get=20
the phone >> =3D3D >>>out=20
=3D >=3D3D3D >>> =3D20 >  =
>>>>active=20
on the=3D3D3D20 >>> =3D20 >  =
>>>>Submix A=20
Master=3D20 >  =
MEC.</DIV><BR& gt;>>>=20
=3D20 >  >>>><DIV><F ONT =
face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
=3D >size=3D3D3D3D2>At least=3D20 >  that's been =
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face=3D3D3D3DArial=20
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Re: It's been snowing here for two days [message #82344 is a reply to message #82330]

Fri, 30 March 2007 07:11

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

>>>
>>> >>> "Dimitrios" <musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =3D
>>> >>>news:4638281d$1@linux...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi DJ,
>>> >>> hehe I am already on that testing route even with the L R outputs
>>=
>>>of
>>> =3D
>>> >>>other
>>> >>> than card's a mecs...
>>> >>> Regarding the headphone outs the one on mec A which is the main
>=
>>>one
>>> =3D
>>> >>>outputs
>>> >>> all submixes, the other though ! output only the related submix
>=
>>>out
>>> so
>>> >> =3D
>>> >>>yes
>>> >>> you could route it to another mec but on same mec you would get
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>>>an =3D
>>> >>>infinite
>>> >>> loop of dry and compressed... because the time you will bring it
>>=
>>>back
>>> >> =3D
>>> >>>on
>>> >>> same mec that will be again outputed on headphones and then back
>>=
>>>=3D
>>> >>>again...
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Fri, 30 March 2007 08:43

Paul Artola

Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005

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r /> >>> >>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
>>> >>>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
>>=
>>>=3D
>>> >>>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
>>> >>> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>>> >>> =3D
>>> =
>>>>>>href=3D3D"mailto:musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr">

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Re: It's been snowing here for two days [message #82353 is a reply to message #82348]

Fri, 30 March 2007 08:16

gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006

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>for the headphones !! >>>I am just =3D
>>> >>>using the=3D20
>>> >>> digital out for monitoring thats why I didn't =3D
>>> >>>get any >>>signal=3D20
>>> >>> at the heaphone out=3D20
>>> >>> =3D
>>> >>>! >>>Thanks >>>Dimitrios >>> >&=3D
>>> >>>gt;>"Tom=3D20
>>> >>> Bruhl" <<A =3D
>>> >>>href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@

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Re: It's been snowing here for two days [message #82394 is a reply to message #82344]

Fri, 30 March 2007 20:14

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

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ated >> submix so you can send it to a =3D
>>mec's out=3D20
>> (24bit if you like) and then out >> to your=3D20
>> compressor. >> Regards, >> =3D
>>Dimitrios >> >>=3D20
>> "Tom Bruhl" <<A=3D20
>> =
href=3D3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=3D20
>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>Dimitrios are =3D
>>you=3D20
>> serious?!?! It outputs the submix only on Cards =3D
>>B, C, >>=3D20
>> =3D3D >>>D, E ??? >>>I will be summing my drums =3D
>>and=3D20
>> guitars from now on 20bit out of the =3D3D >>>phones jack to =
=3D
>>
>> my >>>outboard comps for sure!!!!!! Sweeeeeet! =3D
>>How=3D20
>> come I never tried it? >>> >>>I'm a=3D20
>> =3D
>>dope, >>>Tom >>> >>> >>>&=3D
>>nbsp;=3D20
>> "Dimitrios" <<A=3D20
>> =3D
=
>>href=3D3D"mailto:musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr">musuNOSPAMrgio@otenet.gr</A>=
>=3D
>> wrote=3D20
>> in message=3D20
>> =3D
>>=3D3D >>>news:4638281d$1@linux... >>> >>&g=3D
>>t; =3D20
>> Hi DJ,<B

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