| Can anyone give me some new laptop suggestions? [message #94041] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 08:48  |
Rod Lincoln
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be running Logic 8 on Leopard to
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>>>>>be accurate.
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>>>>>I like that Apogee doesn't post the test session on the web site for
>>>>>users to down load.
>>>>>It would be the fair way for people to see what the card can do
>>>>>compared
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>>>>>to the c
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| Re: Can anyone give me some new laptop suggestions? [message #94043 is a reply to message #94041] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 09:24  |
TCB
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xcept for
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>>>>>> Apogee's response when the user called, but since I brought it up in
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>>>>>> the Vista thread, I thought I would pass it along to try and sort
>>>>>> through marketing myth and real world facts. I was actually kind of
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>>>>>> hoping the Apogee Symphony would smoke at low latency with Core audio
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>>>>>> and any app, just because it would be cool to have such a
>>>>>> breakthrough, but this really just shows that ASIO is pushing the
>>>>>> limits of current OSs already, and we haven't really exceeded it yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reports on Nuendo performance is quite a bit faster on XP and
>>>>>> ASIO2, but it's running fine at low latency on
>>>>>> OSX/core audio - just about 20-30% higher (my adjusted
>>>>>> estimate) plugin load on the same hardware, same latency: it's really
>>>>
>>>>>> 76 Nuendo multiband comps at 64 samples on XP/ASIO, vs 45 on OSX/core
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>>>>>> audio at 64, which is almost 50% more, but I'm assuming there are
>>>>>> other plugins in that benchmark test to compensate for, and vary part
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>>>>>> of that loading (I'll have to find out for sure when I have more
>>>>>> time)
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>>>>>> - same dual quad hardware configs in both cases. I don't know for
>>>>>> sure if some of this is Nuendo not being optimized for the lower
>>>>>> level
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>>>>>> OSX code base (maybe already), or still on Cocoa or whatever - or if
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>>>>>> it is truly a limitation of OSX and core audio. Based on the Logic
>>>>>> thread, the latter seems to have a bit more weight than it being a
>>>>>> Nuendo-only performance issue.
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| Re: Can anyone give me some new laptop suggestions? [message #94045 is a reply to message #94043] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 09:55 |
Rod Lincoln
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9) 635-5762
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>GOD I FUCKING HATE THAT STUPID FUCKING TINY URL FREE TRACKING DEVICE. I'D
RATHER LISTEN TO A 24/96 RECORDING OF MUTT LANG DRY HUMPING SHANIA TWAIN
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>http://tinyurl.com/2gyy2k
>Everyone I know that kept up with the upgrades and went with full blown PT
rigs to support
higher track and plugin counts (as many as we get with native) spent way
more than the $10k you listed
below, for a commercial studio (not an upgrade from an Audiomedia, or
PT001).
e.g. A friend of mine went to Mix Plus way back a few years after it first
came out, with ProControl (I believe):
total was $40k, and that was considered a modest PT rig at the time - that
followed his O2R, ADATs, multiple consoles, etc.
I don't know if/when he went HD, but that's even more on top. I'm also not
sure if the $40k included
any plugins at the time - probably some basic plugins but I'm sure he
expanded/added to it down the road.
"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47c70cf7$1@linux...
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> Hey ..the RME /Steinberg route is very nice and very Powerful. I think
> that
> you need to redo your math on the 100k digi upgrade.
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> I went from a audiomedia (still have) to Pro Tools 001(cost 400.00) From
> there, toa Mix Plus..Cost (great deal $3,800 with 1622 interface)...From
> there..HD2acel..cost $6,500.00 with -1-192.
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> I don't see where 100k comes in. Nor do I know of any of my buddies who
> spent
> 100k in upgrading their PT DAWS..
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote:
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| Re: Can anyone give me some new laptop suggestions? [message #94047 is a reply to message #94045] |
Wed, 26 December 2007 11:53 |
TCB
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igner ll card.$1100)If I followed the digi
>>upgrade train from that point (1994),I would have lost about $100K in yet
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>>more useless obsolete basement clogging shit.I have no regrets in
>>following
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>>RME/Steinberg.It works for me.
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:47c57a5a$1@linux...
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>>> Glad I still get name checked every now and then ;-)
>>>
>>> I still think native is the way to go unless someone is running a big
> for
>>> hire room, and let's face it more of those are shutting down than
>>> starting
>>> up.
>>>
>>> One thing about the RME mixer, it shouldn't be changed at all. It's the
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>>> most
>>> flexible, powerful audio interface mixer I've ever seen. It's incredibly
>>> easy to use, just a little tricky to learn. I'll take that over a
>>> photorealistic
>>> mixer that's less powerful any day.
>>>
>>> Then again, I'm a linux geek. Then again, so are the RME guys.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>Thank you Chris for stating what I have been saying for years now.
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>>>>All this tech talk :($$$$$$$$$$) about low latency on native solutions,
>>> is
>>>>very costly AND, I might add, as Thad has said on numerous ocassions,
> have
>>>>gained nothing!! due to that fact that we are all beholding to MS
>>>>Vista/XP
>>>>and OSX..
>>>>
>>>>On the Nuendo.com website 10 mile post on system performance specs is
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>>>>sickening!.
>>>>Who cares? All, one should want is
>>>>
>>>>A stable running system, that performes the task thats needed.
>>>>
>>>>I'm with the get Protools HD(X) and be done with it. There are those on
>>> this
>>>>and other sites how have sunk major$$$$ trying to "perice-Mill_ a
>>>>working
>>>>DAW hat outperforms ProTools HD. That's cool, but I would these folks
> have
>>>>spent "More" money than just buying a super hot-rod ProTools HD6..
>>>>
>>>>Note: Out 2 HD rigs on G5's also run Nuendo(Via Digis Asio
>>>>drivers)..Runs
>>>>great, and is as stable as ever. I can mix a 70 track project with alot
>>> of
>>>>plu
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| Re: Can anyone give me some new laptop suggestions? [message #94110 is a reply to message #94103] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 08:52 |
TCB
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len wrote:
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>>>>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
>>>>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>>>>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but
>>>>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track
>>>>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will
>>>>> be my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of my
>>>>> song building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the
>>>>> workhorse for building/virtual synths and schlepping video render stuff
>>>>> when I have time for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>>>>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>>>>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>>>>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>>>>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
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Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Yes, hence the source of the typo....had 775 on my mind, typed 975.
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:47c81a41$1@linux...
> Hi Dedric,
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> LGA775 is the socket type. 975 is the chipset.
> :)
> Chris
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> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> Yikes, yep typo on my part - sorry about that: it is LGA775, not 975.
>>
>> On 2/28/08 10:34 PM, in article 47c79c87@linux, "Aaron Allen"
>> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
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>>> I'm pretty sure mine's a LGA775 here, so I wanted to check that I may
>>> have
>>> missed something or it's a typo?
>>> - Always had good luck with Asus and Gigabyte either one FWIW.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>> news:47c6e72a@linux...
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>>>> David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board.
>>>> I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for
>>>> multiple
>>>> PCI and PCIe slots.
>>>> (Gigabyte may be another good choice).
>>>>
>>>> I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently -
>>>> down
>>>> to $250 on newegg.com.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
>>>>
>>>>> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for
>>>>> MB
>>>>> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an
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