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Conspiracy theories [message #71677] Wed, 23 August 2006 12:03 Go to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
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r /> >>>>>>>> allegiance,
>>>>>>>>>> etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent
>>>>>>>>>> troubles.
>>>>>>>>>> 8. Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as
>>>>&
Re: Conspiracy theories [message #71686 is a reply to message #71677] Wed, 23 August 2006 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dubya Mark Wilson is currently offline  Dubya Mark Wilson   UNITED STATES
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>>>>> tells
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me there must be a God so even non-believers would have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong
>>>>>> sense
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right and wrong on a societal and even global level.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To walk through some thoughts: with no God, or higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference
>>>>>> point,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be considered moral, or at least good? What would one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>>>>
Re: Conspiracy theories [message #71687 is a reply to message #71677] Wed, 23 August 2006 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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>>>> what is right and wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laws? Most would agree that we can't legislate morality now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basis for what morality is, why would we even bother with laws
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone would make their own choices anyway?
>>>>>>>>>&g
Re: Conspiracy theories [message #71688 is a reply to message #71677] Wed, 23 August 2006 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t;>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intellect? That would simply depend on what one chose to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "intelligent" thought, based completely on opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reasoning and Logic? Logic is determined by a hypothesis that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> proven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outcome in a given situation. Change the situation, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasoning
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic behind the "right" or "wrong" could easily change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Experience? What if one's experience is filled with hatred,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abuse,
>>>>>>>>>> anger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and violence, or worse? Then someone would have to decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we would use as a reference point. There would be no
>
Re: Conspiracy theories [message #71689 is a reply to message #71687] Wed, 23 August 2006 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;>>>>>>>>>>>>> guarantee
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or persons had experiences that would be best for the good of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
Re: Conspiracy theories [message #71690 is a reply to message #71688] Wed, 23 August 2006 22:45 Go to previous message
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/> >>>>>>>> whole.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Survival instinct? If it were a reference point, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stealing,
>>>>>> lying,
>>>>>>>&g
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