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Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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I guess it depends where you get your info. One thing I can tell you is
JD Powers and Associates said Apple was number one at one point and time
back then. I just have to find the article.

James

"LaMont Davis" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I'm sorry buddy :), but th
Re: More Comedy [message #69556 is a reply to message #69554] Tue, 20 June 2006 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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t="_blank">excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well I'll just speak to what I know of Apple. I was a dealer at one time,
>>and their service was out standing. At the time they were number one the
>>the industry year after year.
>>
>>If you get a defective machine, you can return it with in 30 days. Their
>>is a standard one year warranty on hardware. They will replace any thing
>>that is defective free of charge in that year. if you get the extended
>warranty
>>they will replace any thing that is defective free of charge for three
years,
>>including shipping. You can add the extended warranty any time in the
first
>>year, and they have extended that to me and others I know past the first
>>year.
>>
>>I had a head crash on a lap top at the end of my warranty, I had my lap
>top
>>back in 48 hours with a new larger hard drive. Apple offered to back up
>>my old drive on my new drive even though my damaged hard drive was not
mechanically
>>working, it was just clicking and making a grinding noise.
>>
>>I had a doctor in rural AL. that had a problem with a Mac clone machine
>I
>>sold him. I couldn't find somebody to service that machine at his office.
>> I called Apple, they sent a guy out that fixed his
Re: More Comedy [message #69557 is a reply to message #69556] Tue, 20 June 2006 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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clone machine with
in
>>two hours and charged less than the going rate.
>>
>>Those are just two of my experiences with Apple service. I think their
>pretty
>>good.
>>
>>I know that on other audio boards some people are still using the G4 FW800
>>machines. I'm not sure what was up with Rick's machine. Apple is known
>>for replacing the whole machine when a customer is really unhappy and there
>>has been a lot of repairs. However it sounds like Apple dropped the ball
>>on this one.
>>
>>I think a letter from an attorney would have gotten Ricks money back, time
>>is another story. There are Lemon laws that apply to computers also that
>>may still be exercisable.
>>
>>I'm sorry about what happened to Rick, it wasn't right.
>>
>>James
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>James, love ya man... but I have to take this one a little out of context
>>
>>>for humor's sake :)
>>>
>>>*Apple has vary quick turnaround.*
>>>
>>>Yup, they turned Rick around pretty quick and repeatedly as I remember..
>>
>>>poor uncle rick....
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:44d96ef8$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I do use both platforms.
>>>>
>>>> You can put a Pioneer DVD drive in your Mac and it will work. Do a

>>>> search,
>>>> the are some Sony 16x models that will also work. Apple doesn't make
>>the
>>>> system drives, so I don't see how you can blame the for that. You might
>>>> want to call WD, Seagate, or who ever made the drive.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't looked at the inside of a new Mac, but I would bet that there
Re: More Comedy [message #69558 is a reply to message #69557] Tue, 20 June 2006 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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>>
>>>> are
>>>> some Apple chips in there, I'm thinking a ROM chip.
>>>>
>>>> Text editor, please, there are plenty of them out there that work, some
>>
>>>> are
>>>> free some are not. What's wrong with text edit?
>>>>
>>>> Here are some sites:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/utilities_editors_macosx.htm l
>>>>
>>>> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nisus.com/Express/
>>>>
>>>> http://macromates.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tex-edit.com/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jedit.org/
>>>>
>>>> http://smultron.sourceforge.net/
>>>>
>>>> Your right Apple MOBOs have always been expensive, they are like custom
>>
>>>> aircraft
>>>> parts, they just don't make enough of them to be cheap. You may be
able
>>>> to slap a PC MOBO in the new Mac Pro
>>>>
>>>> Your talking about a four or five year old machine as if it were a current
>>>> model. Which Dual do you have?
>>>>
>>>> I would bet that if you really looked you would find more Apple repair
>>
>>>> centers
>>>> and dealers in your area. CompUSA and I believe Best Buy also does service
>>>> now. You can always send your machine to Apple, they will even send
>out
>>>> a shipping box in some cases. Apple has vary quick turnaround.
>>>>
>>>> Some Apple service info:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/buy/locator/service.html
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/support/products/
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/support/diy/
>>>>
>>>> Here's a quick search of service locations in CO.:
>>>>
>>>> locations near Colorado Springs, CO
>>>> .
>>>> . Voelker Research
>>>> . 5026 N Academy Blvd?Colorado Springs, CO 80918
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . CompUSA
>>>> . 7690 N Academy Blvd?Colorado Springs, CO 8092
Re: More Comedy [message #69559 is a reply to message #69557] Tue, 20 June 2006 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . CompUSA
>>>> . 8691 Park Meadows Center Dr?Littleton, CO 80124
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Macmall
>>>> . 7355 E Orchard Rd #300?Englewood, CO 80111
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . CompUSA #672- Littleton
>>>> . 8601 West Cross Drive?Littleton, CO 80123
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Netbuilders
>>>> . 3225 S Wadsworth Blvd Unit D?Lakewood, CO 80227
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . CompUSA
>>>> . 80 S Abilene Rd?Aurora, CO 80012
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . CompUSA
>>>> . 9230 Sheridan Blvd?Westminster, CO 80030
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>> . CompUSA
>>>> . 1740 30th St?Boulder, CO 80301
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Digital Systems Inc.
>>>> . 40928 Hwy 6 & 24?Avon, CO 81620
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Digital Systems Inc.
>>>> . 319j Aspen Airport Business Ctr?Aspen, CO 81611
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Kolter.com LLC
>>>> . 305 W Colorado Ave?Trinidad, CO 81082
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Power Technology Solutions Grp Inc.
>>>> . 112 S 3rd Ave?Sterling, CO 80751
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Connecting Point
>>>> . 3223 E Pershing Blvd?Cheyenne, WY 82001
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Collins Consulting
>>>> . 630 Woofter Ave?Colby, KS 67701
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> . Connecting Point Durango
>>>> . 835 Main Avenue #215?Durango, CO 81301
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>James - Lamont pointed out the Nuendo on OSX is a Nuendo issue - it's
>>only
>>>>>relevant to Nuendo users considering a platform.
>>>>>
>>>>>As far as hardware? Macs are no longer different in the chipset
>>>>>
Re: More Comedy [message #69560 is a reply to message #69557] Tue, 20 June 2006 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;department
>>>>>(cpu), unless they will still be relegated to motherboards with a locked
>>
Re: More Comedy [message #69561 is a reply to message #69560] Tue, 20 June 2006 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>bios chip (e.g. Mac/OSX specific). Therein would lie the same problem
>>we
>>>>>are facing now - to fix our lemon dual G4 would cost $700 for a new
>>>>>motherboard. If it were a PC I could replace it for less than $100.
>
>>>>>Also,
>>>>>replacing the bad "superdrive" (won't burn CDs anymore - just DVDs),
>is
>>>>>limited to spec'd drives (one I believe, not the 25 or so I have options
>>>
Re: More Comedy [message #69563 is a reply to message #69558] Tue, 20 June 2006 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tony Benson is currently offline  Tony Benson   UNITED STATES
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ail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know about Nuendo, I was under the impression that it ran
well
>>>> on
>>>>>> a Mac??? If it's a problem, I'm sure they will get it fixed in short
>>>> order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as mac hardware goes, Mac is still a Mac, just different chips.
>>>>>> Software? Every Mac shipping will run more software than a PC, and
>they
>>>> have
>>>>>> for years. For some that will be worth the price of admission, for
>>
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> it's not important. Macs have been able to run Mac and Windows software
>>>>>> since the early 90s, and UNIX since 2001. You can run more software
>>
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> a PC, and all the Major operating systems on one box. It's just easier,
>>>>>> faster and less expensive now. That could only be good for a studio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure you can build a cheaper box, but it will be hard to compete
>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> what apple is offering today! The new Mac Pro is a cool, sleek, high
>>>> end
>>>>>> machine. Look at the comparative costs to the Dell in the WWDC video.
>>>> Sure
>>>>>> you can DIY, or roll your own, but it just won't be the same. You'll
>>>> save
>>>>>> money up front, but not in the long run when you have to spend hours
>>
>>>>>> tweaking,
>>>>>> and fussing just to get your generic machine to work right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again for me it's ease of use, less headaches, and time. And
>then
>>>>>> there's
>>>>>> the software, I hate software that gets in the way. By the way, if
>>you
>>>> want
>>>>>> to see more of Vista, watch the WWDC Keynote video; )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc06/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Six months? Once more woodcrest chips are available you should be
>>able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> build one now. Now it seems the battle is between OSX and Windows.
>>>> While
>>>>>>> this was a good move for Apple to get a faster and better hardware
>>
>>>>>>> system,
>>>>>>> it did narrow the distinction between the Mac and PC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will be interesting to see which turns in better performance numbers
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> Nuendo tests with the same hardware in place - e.g. which OS is most
>>>> bloated
>>>>>>> (given that it would ASIO vs. Core Audio, which is apples and oranges).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The main reason I've stayed with PCs (despite having been down the
>>Mac
>>>> path
>>>>>>> a couple of times) is price for the performance, ease of repair and
>>
>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>> repair costs, much larger pool of available software, and now,
>>>>>>> FXTeleport.
>>>>>>> I don't particularly like Windows. In fact I don't even generically
>>>> like
>>>>>>> Windows. OSX looks cool, but it seems to be problematic for Nuendo
>>
>>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dedric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/8/06 7:29 AM, in article 44d891c8@linux, "James McCloskey"
>>>>>>> <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You don't need a Mac, your a PC guy. Besides, with in six months
>>
>>>>&
Re: More Comedy [message #69564 is a reply to message #69558] Tue, 20 June 2006 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;>>> you'll
>>>>>>>> be able to build a PC that is as fast for less money.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <

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Re: More Comedy [message #69566 is a reply to message #69564] Tue, 20 June 2006 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>> ;oD
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:44d7ba40$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Check out the stuff about expansion. It all looks interesting,
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>> of machine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>&g
Re: More Comedy [message #69594 is a reply to message #69566] Thu, 22 June 2006 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>>>> >>>>>>> James
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is the link, check out the buy it now for =
>>>configurations.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/macpro/
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=3D80651
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