| *****PARIS Heartbeat Released***** [message #99697] |
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| Re: *****PARIS Heartbeat Released***** [message #99708 is a reply to message #99706] |
Mon, 28 July 2008 07:44 |
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---=_linux48d65da2--All I can say is that whether the last fix was a "true" fix or not, I
just had to close REAPER for the first time in about 36 hours straight,
and that was only so I could add the new PSCL and restart. PARIS ASIO
is usably stable for me now, after 36 hours of being open without
crashing or rebooting, with a moderate test mix in progress
So if that kind of "not fixed" was as good as it ever got, it would
have been fixed enough for me - I wish I could say I'd solved my own
(unrelated to audio) software headaches so solidly.
But I understand wanting to be sure you've treated the disease and not
the symptom, and I suspect that if this nails it you'll be able to
start shortening those lengthened internal timings again and speeding
everything up. I'll let you know how this works over here - keep up the
superb work!
- K
On 2008-09-21 07:43:47 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said:
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>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I think I finally found the playback locking issue on multi-core machines
> with the PSCL, but it's not in the PCL. When it happens, the IRQ is becoming
> masked (turned off), and it's definitely not happening in the PSCL. I've
> put into place the mother of all hacks - if the helper thread times out because
> the IRQs are masked, it unmasks them. Since this only seems to happen when
> projects are loading, it works.
>
> The Scherzo masks the IRQs during the interrupt service routine and the delayed
> procedure call. I think they are stepping on each other if the DPC is delayed
> enough than a new interrupt fires before it finishes.
>
> I'm going to figure out how to compile the scherzo and put some locking around
> the IRQ masks. I'm pretty sure that's where the true fix lies. The delays
> I was putting in probably just gave more CPU time to the scherzo by putting
> the app to sleep for short times, reducing delays in the driver and improving
> the problem without solving it.
>
> We're very, very close to putting this thing to bed.
>
> After that, I'm going to work on the ASIO driver. After that, migrating
> parts of the PSCL into the scherzo so we can get some wav drivers going.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
>
> This message has one or more attachments. Select "Save Attachments"
> from the File menu to save.Thanks, Kerry!
In the latest build, I reset the delays to zero. So, it should be faster.
Cheers!
Mike
KerryGalloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>All I can say is that whether the last fix was a "true" fix or not, I
>just had to close REAPER for the first time in about 36 hours straight,
>and that was only so I could add the new PSCL and restart. PARIS ASIO
>is usably stable for me now, after 36 hours of being open without
>crashing or rebooting, with a moderate test mix in progress
>
>So if that kind of "not fixed" was as good as it ever got, it would
>have been fixed enough for me - I wish I could say I'd solved my own
>(unrelated to audio) software headaches so solidly.
>
>But I understand wanting to be sure you've treated the disease and not
>the symptom, and I suspect that if this nails it you'll be able to
>start shortening those lengthened internal timings again and speeding
>everything up. I'll let you know how this works over here - keep up the
>superb work!
>
>- K
>
>On 2008-09-21 07:43:47 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I think I finally found the playback locking issue on multi-core machines
>> with the PSCL, but it's not in the PCL. When it happens, the IRQ is becoming
>> masked (turned off), and it's definitely not happening in the PSCL. I've
>> put into place the mother of all hacks - if the helper thread times out
because
>> the IRQs are masked, it unmasks them. Since this only seems to happen
when
>> projects are loading, it works.
>>
>> The Scherzo masks the IRQs during the interrupt service routine and the
delayed
>> procedure call. I think they are stepping on each other if the DPC is
delayed
>> enough than a new interrupt fires before it finishes.
>>
>> I'm going to figure out how to compile the scherzo and put some locking
around
>> the IRQ masks. I'm pretty sure that's where the true fix lies. The delays
>> I was putting in probably just gave more CPU time to the scherzo by putting
>> the app to sleep for short times, reducing delays in the driver and improving
>> the problem without solving it.
>>
>> We're very, very close to putting this thing to bed.
>>
>> After that, I'm going to work on the ASIO driver. After that, migrating
>> parts of the PSCL into the scherzo so we can get some wav drivers going.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> This message has one or more attachments. Select
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| Re: *****PARIS Heartbeat Released***** [message #99716 is a reply to message #99715] |
Mon, 28 July 2008 11:35 |
Mike Audet
Messages: 294
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a8afe5e99c9867b1d2db6fb9a 8902bda"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
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>The sagebrush and a few other fall blooming flora have my sinuses/ears going
>in and out of vaporlock right now and I'm trying to get a few mixes ready
>for preliminary approval.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=a8afe5e99c9867b1d2db6fb9a 8902bda
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>Just concerned with relative levels, panning and any freq "gotcha's" at
this
>point. Production decisions as to whether or not to keep/lose all or part
>of the slide track, etc. will come later.
>
>
>Thanks,
Twat did you say? I cunt hear you, I have a ear infucktion, bare ass me
again.Mike,
Hopefully I'll be able to do more testing next week. Been working to
expand the system into a different magma case and so far cannot seem to
get beyond 4 eds cards before it crashes and the system restarts on its
own. Once I get to stable, I should be of some use in the testing
process. Makes me want to take it back to where it was. In the old
case I had six cards rock solid and was seeing all the ADAT cards. I
just got greedy :-)
Jeff
KerryGalloway wrote:
> Well, an hour of testing and it seems solid here, both with PARIS and
> through ASIO. I can't tell the difference from the last build, but I
> guess that's the point.
>
> If you're tackling the IRQ assignment glitches in the PSCL, and
> everything depends upon the PSCL - do you think this could also have a
> global positive effect on PARIS' IRQ twitchiness overall?
>
> - K
>
> On 2008-09-21 10:03:35 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said:
>
>>
>> Thanks, Kerry!<
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>> In the latest build, I reset the delays to zero. So, it should be
>> faster.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mike
>
>Hey Kerry,
Speaking of Reaper - I just tried turning on a couple of UAD-1 plugins in
Reaper and there are no cool pictures of the boxes they emulate! Only a
generic parameter list. Is that different on PC?
By the way - as soon as I get time I'm going to call to tell you about the
Alberta seminar we went to. I'm in the midst of a massive work weekend.
Be careful what you pray for!
Gantt
KerryGalloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>All I can say is that whether the last fix was a "true" fix or not, I
>just had to close REAPER for the first time in about 36 hours straight,
>and that was only so I could add the new PSCL and restart. PARIS ASIO
>is usably stable for me now, after 36 hours of being open without
>crashing or rebooting, with a moderate test mix in progress
>
>So if that kind of "not fixed" was as good as it ever got, it would
>have been fixed enough for me - I wish I could say I'd solved my own
>(unrelated to audio) software headaches so solidly.
>
>But I understand wanting to be sure you've treated the disease and not
>the symptom, and I suspect that if this nails it you'll be able to
>start shortening those lengthened internal timings again and speeding
>everything up. I'll let you know how this works over here - keep up the
>superb work!
>
>- K
>
>On 2008-09-21 07:43:47 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I think I finally found the playback locking issue on multi-core machines
>> with the PSCL, but it's not in the PCL. When it happens, the IRQ is becoming
>> masked (turned off), and it's definitely not happening in the PSCL. I've
>> put into place the mother of all hacks - if the helper thread times out
because
>> the IRQs are masked, it unmasks them. Since this only seems to happen
when
>> projects are loading, it works.
>>
>> The Scherzo masks the IRQs during the interrupt service routine and the
delayed
>> procedure call. I think they are stepping on each other if the DPC is
delayed
>> enough than a new interrupt fires before it finishes.
>>
>> I'm going to figure out how to compile the scherzo and put some locking
around
>> the IRQ masks. I'm pretty sure that's where the true fix lies. Th
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: *****PARIS Heartbeat Released***** [message #99718 is a reply to message #99717] |
Mon, 28 July 2008 12:43 |
Tom Bruhl
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e delays
>> I was putting in probably just gave more CPU time to the scherzo by putting
>> the app to sleep for short times, reducing delays in the driver and improving
>> the problem without solving it.
>>
>> We're very, very close to putting this thing to bed.
>>
>> After that, I'm going to work on the ASIO driver. After that, migrating
>> parts of the PSCL into the scherzo so we can get some wav drivers going.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> This message has one or more attachments. Select "Save Attachments"
>> from the File menu to save.
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Hi Jeff,
I'm sorry to hear that. If you want to use to use the latest PSCL I posted
along with DebugView (attached), I could look at the output to see if it
is a driver issue.
Good luck!
Mike
Jeff Hoover <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote:
>Mike,
>
>Hopefully I'll be able to do more testing next week. Been working to
>expand the system into a different magma case and so far cannot seem to
>get beyond 4 eds cards before it crashes and the system restarts on its
>own. Once I get to stable, I should be of some use in the testing
>process. Makes me want to take it back to where it was. In the old
>case I had six cards rock solid and was seeing all the ADAT cards. I
>just got greedy :-)
>
>
>
>Jeff
>
>
>KerryGalloway wrote:
>> Well, an hour of testing and it seems solid here, both with PARIS and
>> through ASIO. I can't tell the difference from the last build, but I
>> guess that's the point.
>>
>> If you're tackling the IRQ assignment glitches in the PSCL, and
>> everything depends upon the PSCL - do you think this could also have a
>> global positive effect on PARIS' IRQ twitchiness overall?
>>
>> - K
>>
>> On 2008-09-21 10:03:35 -0700, "Mike Audet" <mike@...> said:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Kerry!
>>>
>>> In the latest build, I reset the delays to zero. So, it should be
>>> faster.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
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"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: *****PARIS Heartbeat Released***** [message #99745 is a reply to message #99741] |
Mon, 28 July 2008 19:52 |
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"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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| Re: *****PARIS Heartbeat Released***** [message #99781 is a reply to message #99720] |
Wed, 30 July 2008 00:18 |
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