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| Re: WOW!!!!....Is this normal??? [message #74430 is a reply to message #74428] |
Wed, 18 October 2006 21:40   |
excelav
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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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d.
For my purposes, just the simplicity/intuitiveness of the routing
capabilities of this platform would have made it worth the switch.
DJ
"Nel" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45563711$1@linux...
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> ..2nd PC is now up & running - kept an old computer that had
> WinME as the OS; don't know why I kept it around, but I'm glad
> I did, because I just swapped out the hard drives & CD/DVD
> drive from that one, used a spare Antec Power supply I had,
> plus the MOBO, CPU & RAM I just replaced in my main DAW, got a
> $39 empty case from CompUSA, and voila'! Did the mandatory
> multi-boot startup process so Windoze could find all the
> drivers for this hardware config, but Paris seems to be working
> right on a first-attempt install... no errors or anything!
>
> Let the summing experiments begin! :D
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> I'll post some comparison files at sum point - get it "SUM"
> point? :D this weekend... got a vocal session coming in right
> now, though, so I won't be able to get started experimenting
> 'til later this evening.
>
> NeilI have always been a fan of Presonus Pre's. I have both
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| Re: WOW!!!!....Is this normal??? [message #74434 is a reply to message #74430] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 00:47 |
Martin Harrington
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Registered: September 2005
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getting another full RAWK band in here, 10 or 12 in's might not
be enough for basic trax.
2.) The second issue I'll be dealing with by keeping the RME
convertors can be summed up in this simple phrase:
TWO ASIO DRIVERS... need I say more?
Well, we'll see how that goes, as well... maybe I can still use
the Multifaces & their own drivers for tracking, enabling me to
have all the inputs I need & not worry about interfacing the
Multifaces with the Pulsar card, and then release those drivers
for mixdown & incorporate the Pulsar Card at that point.... not
sure how well that'll work, but I guess I'm gonna try it.
In any event, I've just been messing with the Paris summing
thing right now. Got Paris up & running first time &
everything's working fine... had some routing problems with my
RME's, though... for some odd reason I no longer have Output
#4! Switched the two Multifaces around, swapped out PCI cards &
even PCI slots, still nothing... it's showing up as "active"
and "visible" in the 'Device Setup' menu, too; but no matter
what configuration I try, I just simply do not have Analog Out
#4 any more... weird. I don't know when this might have
happened, because I haven't needed to use that before.
If anyone can give me a hint as to what I might try, I'd
appreciate it!
In any event, I'm using 4 sets of stereo analog outs, going
into the Paris 8-in module, and monitoring off the MEC... what
do I think so far? Well, there's definitely a difference vs.
mixing ITB on a 2-buss Native mix, as I suspected there would
be. Does it sound better than a straight 2-buss Native mix?
Yeah, I think so in a way... I'm definitely losing some high
end, but it sounds bigger - won't be able to tell for sure
until I a/b them, but those are my initital impressions. To me
it sounds much like what you'd get if you stemmed out four or
five stereo submixes in SX, then re-
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| Re: WOW!!!!....Is this normal??? [message #74437 is a reply to message #74428] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 01:46 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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; ADAT/Optical in's - which are good for 4 channels each at that
> sample rate - and 2 AES in's, but I don't have anything with
> AES outs except for my Mucusrite ISA 428 with the digicard
> option - and I don't know if you can use the AES & lightpipe
> outs at the same time... anyway, maybe I'll be able to get 12
> channels of input out of the system; ten for sure. We'll see.
> In any event, that's a step back from my current 16 analog ins
> (with my two Multifaces) plus 4 channels of digilight (using
> the ISA card). Not a problem for most of the stuff I do, but
> getting another full RAWK band in here, 10 or 12 in's might not
> be enough for basic trax.
>
> 2.) The second issue I'll be dealing with by keeping the RME
> convertors can be summed up in this simple phrase:
> TWO ASIO DRIVERS... need I say more?
> Well, we'll see how that goes, as well... maybe I can still use
> the Multifaces & their own drivers for tracking, enabling me to
> have all the inputs I need & not worry about interfacing the
> Multifaces with the Pulsar card, and then release those drivers
> for mixdown & incorporate the Pulsar Card at that point.... not
> sure how well that'll work, but I guess I'm gonna try it.
>
> In any event, I've just been messi
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| Re: WOW!!!!....Is this normal??? [message #74449 is a reply to message #74428] |
Thu, 19 October 2006 11:56 |
gene Lennon[3]
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Registered: June 2006
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>> Multifaces with the Pulsar card, and then release those drivers
>> for mixdown & incorporate the Pulsar Card at that point.... not
>> sure how well that'll work, but I guess I'm gonna try it.
>>
>> In any event, I've just been messing with the Paris summing
>> thing right now. Got Paris up & running first time &
>> everything's working fine... had some routing problems with my
>> RME's, though... for some odd reason I no longer have Output
>> #4! Switched the two Multifaces around, swapped out PCI cards &
>> even PCI slots, still nothing... it's showing up as "active"
>> and "visible" in the 'Device Setup' menu, too; but no matter
>> what configuration I try, I just simply do not have Analog Out
>> #4 any more... weird. I don't know when this might have
>> happened, because I haven't needed to use that before.
>>
>> If anyone can give me a hint as to what I might try, I'd
>> appreciate it!
>>
>> In any event, I'm using 4 sets of stereo analog outs, going
>> into the Paris 8-in module, and monitoring off the MEC... what
>> do I think so far? Well, there's definitely a difference vs.
>> mixing ITB on a 2-buss Native mix, as I suspected there would
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| Re: WOW!!!!....Is this normal??? [message #74487 is a reply to message #74449] |
Fri, 20 October 2006 01:41 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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> the ISA card). Not a problem for most of the stuff I do, but
> >>> getting another full RAWK band in here, 10 or 12 in's might not
> >>> be enough for basic trax.
> >>>=20
> >>> 2.) The second issue I'll be dealing with by keeping the RME
> >>> convertors can be summed up in this simple phrase:
> >>> TWO ASIO DRIVERS... need I say more?
> >>> Well, we'll see how that goes, as well... maybe I can still use
> >>> the Multifaces & their own drivers for tracking, enabling me to
> >>> have all the inputs I need & not worry about interfacing the
> >>> Multifaces with the Pulsar card, and then release those drivers
> >>> for mixdown & incorporate the Pulsar Card at that point.... not
> >>> sure how well that'll work, but I guess I'm gonna try it.
> >>>=20
> >>> In any event, I've just been messing with the Paris summing
> >>> thing right now. Got Paris up & running first time &
> >>> everything's working fine... had some routing problems with my
> >>> RME's, though... for some odd reason I no longer have Output
> >>> #4! Switched the two Multifaces around, swapped out PCI cards &
> >>> even PCI slots, still nothing... it's showing up as "active"
> >>> and "visible" in the 'Device Setup' menu, too; but no matter
> >>> what configuration I try, I just simply do not have Analog Out
> >>> #4 any more... weird. I don't know when this might have
> >>> happened, becaus
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| Re: WOW!!!!....Is this normal??? [message #74503 is a reply to message #74487] |
Fri, 20 October 2006 09:30 |
animix
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Registered: September 2006
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t, B is
> second but slightly scoopy, C is last, narrow and less detailed. Lower
> mids in A really treat the guitars nicely without trouncing the keys and
> seems just all around more suitable for the piece. B wouldn't be bad if
> it were Contemp Jazz or such. C... don't know what's up with that one but
> it just don't do it for me. I'll be interested to hear which is PARIS,
> etc, and what your routing, hdwr and procedures are/were.
>
> Dubya
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> "Neil" <IOU@OIUOI.com> wrote in message news:4557bcc2$1@linux...
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>> Three files total... one's a 'Mixed in SX, Summed in Paris'
>> mix, another is a straight-ahead SX 2-Buss Mix, and another
>> is an SX Stems Mix (note: NOT necessarily in the order I
>> just mentioned):
>>
>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/Music/Neil/Summing%20Experimen t%20ClipA.mp3
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>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/Music/Neil/Summing%20Experimen t%20ClipB.mp3
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>> http://www.saqqararecords.com/Music/Neil/Summing%20Experimen t%20ClipC.mp3
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>> They're fairly short... 1:14 each, just enough to get a touch of
>> instrumentation by itself, a portion with lead vox, then
>> background vox. They're Hi-Rez mp3's.
>>
>> Any guesses as to which is which? Or better yet, which one do
>> you like better?
>>
>> Neil
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>Dubya... I'll wait 'til I get a few more responses before I say
which is which, but here's what the procedures were:
-For the straight-ahead 2-bus Native Mix, it was basically just
as I've been saying in recent threads with regard to managing
levels, nothing special. Dithered down to a 16-bit wav file @
44.1k in SX using the UV22HR dither plugin. Done.
-For the Native Stems mix, it was the exact same mix as above,
but I just ran out the following stere
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| Re: WOW!!!!....Is this normal??? [message #74512 is a reply to message #74503] |
Fri, 20 October 2006 11:05 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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ine. I believe it works
on 95 (if you really want to!), 98, WIn2000, and XP (all versions).
I didn't suggest this because of the annoyance if for some reason the
software doesn't allow access. You have to go through the hassle of
hooking the keyboard video and mouse back up to deterine the issue.
With the KVM switch, most of them use a hotkey combination (i.e. ctrl
ctrl Enter)
Hope this helps.
JH
THere
James McCloskey wrote:
> Hey Tom! I don't know Jack; ) There is supposed to be a way in XP and OSX
> to log on to another system over a network and toggle between them. Supposedly,
> there is no need for a KMV switch.
>
> When I get time, I'll look in to this. Right now I'm going out of town
> for a week, so if you find out, let me know.
>
> James
>
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> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>
>>James,
>>Tell us what you know?!!!
>>Tom
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>>news:45576cdc$1@linux...
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>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Hey Jeff...
>> >
>> >No, I don't have a spare one laying around anymore - the one I
>> >did have was cannibalized to build the Paris PC. I don't know
>> >if I really want to a third one to the mix - I'm trying to
>> >figure out how to configure this additional stuff now
>> >(**physically** configure, I mean - not configuring connections,
>> >etc.), so I don't know if I'd even have a good place to put
>> >another PC; although you're right, that could be an inexpensive
>> >way to go about it - I could pick up a cheapie e-machines brand
>> >or equivalent for in the slightly over $300 range.
>> >
>> >That'll definitely be something to consider if I end up going
>> >through dual-ASIO-driver hell on the main PC.
>>
>> There are ways to remotely access the other system through software =
>>and
>> a network connection, the KMV may not be necessary.
>>
>> James
>>
>> >
>> >Neil
>> >
>> >
>> >Jeff hoover <jkhoover
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