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| new plugs, mac, mike [message #91543] |
Wed, 17 October 2007 04:05  |
chuck duffy
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> > Also<BR>=3D3D<BR>>the=3D3D20<BR>> crackles never<BR>show =3D
> >till=3D20
> > listening to the bounced=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>file.<BR>><BR>>3.)=3D3D20<BR>> can =3D
> >you=3D20
> > determine where the crackle rears it's ugly head?<BR>>IOW,=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>is it=3D3D20<BR>> constant, more or less, or is it =3D
> >intermittent?=3D20
> > If<BR>>it's =3D3D<BR>>intermittent,=3D3D20<BR>> does =3D
> >it seem to=3D20
> > coincide with any particular<BR>>instrument or =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>track?=3D20
> > For=3D3D20<BR>> example, could it be a =3D
> >particular<BR>>plugin on=3D20
> > the - let's say - =3D3D<BR>>cowbell=3D3D20<BR>> track, which =3D
> >occurs=3D20
> > though<BR>>most of the song, but not on =3D
> >the=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > (confounded) bridge?<BR><BR>totally random...not in anyway =3D
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> > associated<BR>=3D3D<BR>>with a=3D3D
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| Re: new plugs, mac, mike [message #91549 is a reply to message #91546] |
Wed, 17 October 2007 05:44  |
chuck duffy
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> > Lincoln" <<A=3D3D20<BR>> =3D3D<BR>>href=3D3D3D"<A=3D20
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>>href=3D3D'mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</A=
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>>mp;g'>mailto:rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com">rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com</=3D
> >A>&g</A>=3D3D<BR>>t;=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>OK..I got everything hooked =3D
> >backk up=3D20
> > and =3D3D<BR>>sure=3D3D20<BR>> enough, the crackle is=3D20
> > back<BR>>>on bounce to disk...in the left=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>channel=3D3D20<BR>> only, same as always. I tried=3D20
> > panning<BR>>>everything oppisite,=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>crackle,=3D3D20<BR>> tried lowering levels,=3D20
> > crackle.<BR>>>When I took all the tracks =3D3D<BR>>off=3D20
> > the=3D3D20<BR>> submixes except for the drums on=3D20
> > submix<BR>>>1, there were NO =3D
> >=3D3D<BR>>crackles.=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > There were also NO crackles when bouncing audio<BR>>>from =3D
> >any=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>submix by=3D3D20<BR>> itself. <BR>>>This =3D
> >is a 24 bit=3D20
> > mix with 24 bit tracks, so I =3D3D<BR>>tried=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >(advice from=3D20
> > Aaron)<BR>>rendering<BR>>>some of the tracks to=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>16 bit.=3D3D20<BR>> I rendered all the drums (15 =3D
> >tracks)=3D20
> > and<BR>5<BR>>>other tracks =3D3D<BR>>to =3D
> >16=3D3D20<BR>> =3D20
> > bit, leaving 10 tracks at 24 bit...Crackles came =3D
> >back<BR>>>when=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>bouncing=3D3D20<BR>> the entire mix. That's where =3D
> >I'm at. I can=3D20
> > always do=3D3D20<BR>> =3D
> >the<BR>spdif<BR>>>bounce=3D20
> > method...it's a real hassle because of =3D3D<BR>>the =3D
> >way=3D3D20<BR>> my=3D20
> > moitoring and<BR>work<BR>>>flow is, but it's doable, =3D
> >and=3D20
> > =3D3D<BR>>seems to=3D3D20<
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| Re: new plugs, mac, mike [message #91551 is a reply to message #91548] |
Wed, 17 October 2007 05:49 |
chuck duffy
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rod,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have you tried mixing the song three =
>times to see=20
>if you get lucky?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Stupid I know.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Smells like hardware or UAD rev =
>incompatablity to=20
>me. I had been using</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Helios rev (4.4?) with no =
>mixdown=20
>crackles. I hope to get back at it shortly too.</FONT></DIV>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aren't there buffer settings you =
>can adjust in=20
>the UAD to address this?</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Might give that a try.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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| Re: new plugs, mac, mike [message #91556 is a reply to message #91549] |
Wed, 17 October 2007 07:52 |
mike audet[1]
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ng back to<BR>> =
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> > >the crackle-infested bounce to see if there's any =
>pattern=20
> =3D<BR>>that=3D3D20<BR>> > >might apply to (3) =
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> above?<BR>> ><BR>> > none<BR>> =20
> > ><BR>> > >5.) Is the crackle =
>happening on=20
> ALL systems? IOW, have you<BR>> > >burned a CD of =
>the=20
> bounced tracks & played it back on a home<BR>> > =
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> >stereo, in your car, on headphones, etc? Is it possible =
>that<BR>> =20
> > >for some odd reason the crackle is due to something in=20
> your<BR>> > >monitoring setup that isn't showing =
>up on=20
> regular playback, but<BR>> > >might be showing up =
>on a=20
> rendered file?<BR>> > This first came to my =
>attention after=20
> I burned a CD of test mixes =3D<BR>>for<BR>> =
>=3D3D<BR>> =20
> >the<BR>> > client and he called me after he got =
>home and=20
> listened on his =3D<BR>>system =3D3D<BR>> =
>>(this<BR>> =20
> > was an audio CD)so I would say it happens on all =
>systems...but I=20
> =3D<BR>>=3D3D<BR>> >havn't burnt<BR>> =
>> another=20
> CD yet.<BR>> > It does happen on my NS 10's as well =Yeah, I did that when this initially started, a couple weeks ago.
Rod
"Neil" <OIU@IOU.com> wrote:
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>And you've already done the usual stuff like removing your EDS
>cards, cleaning off the contacts & re-seating them, etc?
>
>Neil
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>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>>Tom, I've already done that. It's not that. It's definiatly something that
>>only shows up on the bounced to disk file. Also it's totally random and
>not
>>at all related to any single audio event.
>>Rod
>>"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>>
>>>Okay Rod,
>>>How about one track with the UAD plugs
>>>that has a few rough spots that are amplified
>>>by the plugin set?
>>>
>>>Mute one track at a time to find it. PITA for sure.
>>>???
>>>Tom
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
>>>news:472f2455$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I agree with you, except that when I play back an old project that =
>>>didn't
>>> have the problem, it doesn't crackl, even with more tracks and the =
>>>same plugs
>>> as the ppj's that crackle.=20
>>> Rod
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| Re: new plugs, mac, mike [message #91567 is a reply to message #91551] |
Wed, 17 October 2007 16:11 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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R>show till listening to the bounced =3D
>>> >file.<BR>><BR>>3.)=3D20
>>> > can you determine where the crackle rears it's ugly head?<BR>>IOW,
>>=
>>>=3D
>>> >is it=3D20
>>> > constant, more or less, or is it intermittent? If<BR>>it's =3D
>>> >intermittent,=3D20
>>> > does it seem to coincide with any particular<BR>>instrument or =3D
>>> >track? For=3D20
>>> > example, could it be a particular<BR>>plugin on the - let's say -
>=
>>>=3D
>>> >cowbell=3D20
>>> > track, which occurs though<BR>>most of the song, but not on =
>>>the=3D20
>>> > (confounded) bridge?<BR><BR>totally random...not in anyway =
>>>associated
>>> =3D
>>> >with a=3D20
>>> > particular instrument. Fairly<BR>study though, like a bowl of =
>>>rice=3D20
>>> > crispies.<BR>><BR>>4.) mute/disconnect the right channel when =3D
>>> >listening=3D20
>>> > back to<BR>>the crackle-infested bounce to see if there's any =3D
>>> >pattern that=3D20
>>> > <BR>>might apply to (3) above?<BR><BR>none<BR>><BR>>5.) Is =3D
>>> >the=3D20
>>> > crackle happening on ALL systems? IOW, have you<BR>>burned a CD of
>>=
>>>=3D
>>> >the=3D20
>>> > bounced tracks & played it back on a home<BR>>stereo, in your =3D
>>> >car, on=3D20
>>> > headphones, etc? Is it possible that<BR>>for some odd reason the
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>>>=3D
>>> >crackle is=3D20
>>> > due to something in your<BR>>monitoring setup that isn't showing
up
>>=
>>>=3D
>>> >on=3D20
>>> > regular playback, but<BR>>might be showing up on a rendered =3D
>>> >file?<BR>This=3D20
>>> > first came to my attention after I burned a CD of test mixes for
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>>>=3D
>>> >the<BR>client=3D20
>>> > and he called me after he got home and listened on his system =3D
>>> >(this<BR>was an=3D20
>>> > audio CD)so I would say it happens on all systems...but I =
>>>havn't=3D20
>>> > burnt<BR>another CD yet.<BR>It does happen on my NS 10's as well
as
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>>>my
>>> =3D
>>> >
>>> > Mackie 824's. The 824's are hooked<BR>up thru the spdif out of =3D
>>> >the mec=3D20
>>> > to a DAC-1 to a PVC passive volume control.<BR>The NS 10's are =
>>>hooked
>>> =3D
>>> >up thru=3D20
>>> > 2 analogue outs from the Mec into a GFA power<BR>amp. Crackles =
>>>exisist
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