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| Re: Is there any such thing as this? [message #92599 is a reply to message #92592] |
Fri, 09 November 2007 22:10   |
DJ
Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005
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>>>>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12 /28/AR2007122800693.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Given the fact that the only way to get uncompressed audio into your
>>>>>>>> computer or iPod is to copy it from a CD, this is bad news indeed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where am I supposed to buy a 16/44.1 download? Never mind how long
>>> it
>>>>>>>> takes to download...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have always been able to copy our own records and CD's to cassette
>>>>>>>> for use in the car, why not for the iPod?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's hope the RIAA loses this one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>>>
>OK, I couldn't find a specific latency measurement tool other
than the one that you can use to measure/compensate for external
EFX... is that the one you're talking about? If so, I'm reading
0.01ms AD/DA on my main Multiface, and that's looped through
the Portico Tape Sim... so it must be less than that without
that extra circuitry in the way.
If there's another way to do it, you're gonna have to walk me
through it, i'm afraid. :(
Neil
"Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>OK, I've never done that, but I can give it a shot & let you
>know.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>I'm using the latency measurement tool in cubase.
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:477bb0e7$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I can try... how are you measuring the latency, though?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>>Hey Neil,
>>>>
>>>>Would you ping a signal through an external processor on one of your
>>>>Multifacia and let me know what kind of latency Cubase registers? I'm
>>>>getting 0.02ms through my Multiface AD/DA's and 0.91 ms through my ADI
>
>>>>8-DS
>>>
>>>>AD/DA's. That seems like a pretty big discrepancy, but the ADI 8-DS is
>>>>routed through a MAD
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| Re: Is there any such thing as this? [message #92606 is a reply to message #92592] |
Sat, 10 November 2007 07:55 |
DJ
Messages: 1124
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>Good points. If you did a search on Nuendo's and Gearslutz forums, there seemed
to me that a lot of users/mid range studios wanted such a product in the
Control 24 or New C24 range.
Man, I'm very jealous of that C24. Total integration with it's DAW..16(grace
range Mic Pres), 8-stereo,16 mono channel sub mixer, Talk back..Surround
monitoring..24 faders, with full master section.
For those of us who got spoiled with the C-16, this is what we Dreamed the
Paris and other DAWs front end mix/controller surface would become.
As for the Market: I think James M was and is right: The Manufactuers as
a whole see a bigger market with the "Bed_Room" guy/gals. 2-8 tracks at a
time. USB2 interfaces, although you still can get a decent to good Firewire
interface, but most of them are still based on the 2-8 channel model.
Hey, it's the Market driven as you stated.. I just find it hard to believe
that Digidesign has software and Hardware for every studio budget..Wow!!
ZRumor has it that Pro Tools 7.5 or 8 will become even more muic creation
friendly.. I track/edit with Neundo,Paris..Mix Pro Tools...Mabey it's time
to go all out Digi..
"TCB " <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>You might be right, LaMont, but the market is littered with disastrous attempts
>at hardware controllers. Remember the SAK? The Houston? The Tascam FW line?
>The Houston was actually a very, very nice design (by Axel Hartmann, a true
>genius of audio gear design) with some QC issues at first but wound up being
>a pretty nice product.
>
>I guess I'm Joe Capitalist this week, but with al
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| Re: Is there any such thing as this? [message #92622 is a reply to message #92620] |
Sun, 11 November 2007 07:36 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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t;>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>Multifacia and let me know what kind of latency Cubase registers?
> I'm
>>>>>>>>>getting 0.02ms through my Multiface AD/DA's and 0.91 ms through my
>
>>>>>>>>>ADI
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>8-DS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>AD/DA's. That seems like a pretty big discrepancy, but the ADI 8-DS
>
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>routed through a MADI converter box where the Multiface isn't so
>
>>>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>there
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>really is that big a difference. It would be nice to have it
>>>>>>>>>confirmed
>>>>>>>>>somehow when/if you get the chance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>Zero-Latency Monitoring. You select it in your Total Mix Mixer window.
"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>What is the ZLM function?
>
>
>"Neil" <IOOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:477cf7a9$1@linux...
>>
>> Could the ZLM function in TotalMix have anything to do with it?
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>Haven't had time yet but I'll get around to it. I've got a feeling there
>> is
>>>some sort of glitch in the way the MF driver talks to Cubase. I'd lay
odds
>>
>>>that the rea latency is around 1 ms as all my other stuff here pings
>>>through
>>
>>>at around 0.91.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:477c7869$1@linux...
>>>> is that a true latency number?????
>>>> Have you tried playing out one track while recording it to another to
>> see
>>>> what the real world DA->AD number is?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote in message news:477c5668$1@linux...
>>>>> That's the one Neil. 0.01h? Man, that's extremely fast. since mine
said
>>
>>>>> 0.02, I guess we're in the same ballpark.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:477c4062$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, I couldn't find a specific latency measurement tool other
>>>>>> than the one that you can use to measure/compensate for external
>>>>>> EFX... is that the one you're talking about? If so, I'm reading
>>>>>> 0.01ms AD/DA on my main Multiface, and that's looped through
>>>>>> the Portico Tape Sim... so it must be less than that without
>>>>>> that extra circuitry in the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If there's another way to do it, you're gonna have to walk me
>>>>>> through it, i'm afraid. :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>OK, I've never done that, but I can give it a shot & let you
>>>>>>>know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Neil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>I'm using the latency measurement tool in cubase.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:477bb0e7$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can try... how are you measuring the latency, though?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Deej" <noway@jose.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Hey Neil,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Would you ping a signal through an external processor on one of
>>>>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>>>>Multifacia and let me know what kind of latency Cubase registers?
>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>getting 0.02ms through my Multiface AD/DA's and 0.91 ms through
my
>>
>>>>>>>>>>ADI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>8-DS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>AD/DA's. That seems like a pretty
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