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s. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert
and
> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge
industrial
> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so
> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight D. Eisenhower,
> 1961
>
> "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of
> our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those
> illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is
> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it
> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." - Ronald
> Reagan
>
> "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can
go
> to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a Turk, or a Greek, or
> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live in
> America and become an American." - more Ro
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nald Reagan
>
> "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the
manger
> even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit
that
> right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to
the
> Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit
that
> a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a
> higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." - Winston Churchill
> (who apparently never said that thing about liberal/conservative
heart/brain
>

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Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #83760 is a reply to message #83758] Fri, 27 April 2007 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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es/index.cfm?pageid=112" target="_blank"> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
>
> "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>
> "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson
>
> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife and kids. Eat
> them!" - Homer Simpson
>
> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest sign from Simpsons
> episode
>
> Courage,
> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
>
>
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:464ce932@linux...
> > You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan the flames. Why
> > the
> > heck not welcome some more illegals.
> >
> > http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
> >
> > "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips
> >
> > "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in
> > its
> > preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
> >
> > "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an announcement outside a
> > Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
> >
> > "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave,
and
> > hated
> > and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it
> > costs
> > nothing
> > to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #83762 is a reply to message #83760] Fri, 27 April 2007 10:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the home of
> > the brave."-- Rick Gaber
> >
> > "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
> > and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." --
> > Winston Churchill
> >
> > Guidance,
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
>
>Ahhh, ok, there they are. The names were jumbled up with the "porta"
copywrite thingy. I deep sixed my status bar and low and behold, all was
revealed. Thanks gents, and thanks for puttin' on the show Paul.
MR
"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message
news:d0bq43dqvovp4a2c7srlo16ume72h2mfsn@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 18:28:44 -0700, "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >There are no names popping up... whoiswho?
> >...and whoeees the mouse guy with the red shirt??
> >:-) MR
> >
>
> The names show up on the left, under the gallery.
>
> Mouse Guy is the classic "Rat Fink" - you need to be a '60's to '70's
> gearhead to really understand.... and by gearhead, I mean motors, not
> guitars and amps.
>
> pabNeo-Americana-Semipsychedelic-Quirk-Rock?

Can't be kids music - I heard the "S-H" word, as my ten year old would say...
Although that'd only be PG nowadays.

I kinda like the " Neo-psychedelic hard jazzy new age folk rock show tunes"
idea.
My father's wife just bought a house in Portland. In spite of the fact that
she mostly can't stand us she was so happy about it that she said "You'll
have to come visit sometime". If a visit actually materializes and you get
to playing live I'd love to come hear you!

Gantt

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>That's a really good question, Gantt, and I'm open to suggestions. I
>usually answer one of three ways:
>
>1. Uh . . . rock, I guess?
>
>2. Neo-psychedelic hard jazzy new age folk rock show tunes
>
>3. I have no idea.
>
>I could say "eclectic," but that's about as helpful as "I have no idea."
>
>Maybe it's children's music. My doctor, my neice, and my co-producer all

>have grade schoolers who are fans. :)
>
>S
>
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:464c549c$1@linux...
>>
>> When you go to book the band and they ask, "What kind of music do you?"

>&
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gt; what
>> will you say?
>>
>> I found it to be totally uncategorizeable... I heard echos of The
>> Beatles,
>> Led Zeppelin, Enya, arrangements occasionally reminiscent of Steely Dan,
>> New Orleans jazz, old country blues. Whew!
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>Well, thank you Gantt. We did, of course, expect you to love it, since
>> we
>>>do. We expect everyone to love it. :)
>>>
>>>How long? Well, it actually represents a few years of "spare time"
>>>interrupted by floods, remodellings, and deaths in families, including
the
>>
>>>very unfortunate and far too young death of our violinist. When we
>>>finished
>>
>>>the CD, however, I took the session logs and figured out how much time
we
>
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>
>>>actually spent in the studio. I calculated that it was about 7 months

>>>worth
>>
>>>of work spread out over about 5 years. We were busy . . . I was in
>>>nursing
>>
>>>school, the other Sarah was touring the world playing flute, and Rich
and
>>
>>>Ryan were in other bands and teaching.
>>>
>>>We're cruising on #2, though. Already have about half the demos done.
>> I
>>>expect the new CD out this fall, tentatively tit
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ch city, town and state.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:464c6b8a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hopefully Michael Dell can get them straitened out again.
>>>
>>> http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070517/D8P646980.html
>>
>>
>
>Rich -

Considering the events that ensued, I think the Feds' suspicions were
correct. Interesting that you put the entire blame on the Feds for the
final result. I, for one, am glad that Koresh and his collection of
whackjobs are closer to God now, though it is a shame that THEY choose
to take many innocents with them.

Calling the Davidians Christians is like calling GWB eloquent.

- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland

On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:51:46 -0500, "Rich Lamanna"
&l
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t;richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:

>Remember Waco. The ATF, under the administration of Clinton and Janet
>Sterno, stormed the Branch Davidian home, in Rambo fashion, to serve a
>search warrant issued on the suspicion that the group was stockpiling
>automatic weapons, massacring almost 100 hundred men, women, and children.
>But I doubt that the FBI or ATF would ever raid these holy men, oh God no,
>despite the fact that they are irrefutably armed to the teeth and practicing
>for violent Jihad.

(snip)

>
>What were Koresh and the Davidians guilty of? Maybe of being Christians.

(snip)

>
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/> >Rich
>Hey all. I thought I remembered a post on this, but my searches are
coming up short.

Has anyone seen the situation where Paris will _always_ be using 90%+ of
the CPU and machine is just a dog, even when not playing?

I'm not sure if it was something I installed earlier this year. I
haven't been able to use Paris the last couple of times I've needed it
so Garage Band and Vegas had to do in the pinch.

I think I may have an extra 20GB drive sitting around. I may just
reinstall a new WinXP and Paris minimals. However, I'd like to get this
drive working since it is my general multimedia setup.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

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> knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge =
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> and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, =
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> 1961

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alert and knowldegable CIA"=20

> "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great =
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> certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed =
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I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce any =
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I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I =
have a wreck down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know these things for a fact. Pisses me off.

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> "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you =
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> whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live =
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> America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan

I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote Reagan. Are =
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race, a=20
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> (who apparentl
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and
>> hated
>> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it =

>> costs
>> nothing
>> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
>>
>> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the
>> timid."
>> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan. 20, 1953
>>
>> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It belongs to the=20
>> brave."
>> -- Ronald Reagan
>>
>> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, =
the
>> active,
>> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
>>
>> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no longer the home =
of
>> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
>>
>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." =
--=20
>> Winston Churchill
>>
>> Guidance,
>> Rich
>>
>>
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own=20
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insurance=20
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living in Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live. If =
I go=20
down there without any papers, they will throw me in jail. If I have a =
wreck=20
down there without insurance, they will throw me in jail. I =
know&nbsp;these=20
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; <BR>&gt; "You can go to live =
in France,=20
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Germany, you=20
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Contra Sho
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> Some alternative quotations:
>=20
> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the =
war-cry, and=20
> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his =
mouth;=20
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will invent=20
> cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and =
every=20
> man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will =
diligently=20
> study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus =
he will=20
> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God =
for the=20
> better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque =
self-deception." -=20
> Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger

Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can distort =
them as much as you please".

>=20
> "In the councils of government, we must guard against the =
acquisition of=20
> unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the=20
> military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise =
of=20
> misplaced power exists and will persist.

Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible things in my =
life, some of which actually happened"

>=20
> We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our =
liberties or=20
> democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an
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>>
>> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart,
>> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain." =
--=20
>> Winston Churchill
>>
>> Guidance,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Sarah" &lt;</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>sarahjane@sarahtonin.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>&gt; wrote=20
in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:464da14d@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:464da14d@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt; Surely this doesn't surprise you =
.. . .=20
?&nbsp; Perhaps if we'd been treating <BR>&gt; terrorism as the =
international=20
criminal problem that it's always been <BR>&gt; instead of as a =
pretense for=20
war, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>.........now if they would just build =
an asprin=20
factory there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like =
most of the=20
people there are black so this would be PC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical morons =
like=20
<BR>&gt; this would be nipped in the bud.&nbsp; Hey, fight the fire, =
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>>
>>
>......and if this keep up, we're not gonna' have anything left........right?

;o)

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:464de6e8@linux...
>
> LOL.
>
> If we could just get rid of those leftinistas, those lefty left
> lefterizers. Those constitution loving left-hosers. Man, they are so
> LEFT!!!!
>
> There, that solves it. :^)
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> The thing that has always intrigued me is how the folks on the far left
>> in this country slag the only administration that is willing to fight for
>> their right to slag the administration. The leftleaning/outspoken first
>> amendment loving folks will be the first to be slaughtered by those that
>> they are tacitly assisting in defeating the policies of this
>> administration.
>> go figure.
>> ;o}
>>
>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
>> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
>> news:464dc9f4@linux...
>> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It
>> astounds me a
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t how the left continues to justify and make excuses
>> for Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the same time
>> condemn those democratic and freedom loving people, who reserve the
>> right to defend themselves against such attacks.
>> Rich
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>>
>> wrote in message news:464dc442@linux...
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com
>> <mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>> wrote in message
>> news:464da14d@linux...
>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
>> been treating
>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
>> always been
>> > instead of as a pretense for war,
>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there,
>> we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the
>> people there are black so this would be PC.
>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm
>> with you, but I
>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the
>> last four years
>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>> >
>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>>
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d@linux...
>>> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
>>> been treating
>>> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
>>> always been
>>> > instead of as a pretense for war,
>>> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory there,
>>> we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like most of the
>>> people there are black so this would be PC.
>>> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
>>> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire, I'm
>>> with you, but I
>>> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for the
>>> last four years
>>> > has done anything but fan the flames.
>>> >
>>> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons Sarah.
>>> http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>>> > Some alternative quotations:
>>> >
>>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up the
>>> war-cry, and
>>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to
>>> open his mouth;
>>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
>>> statesmen will invent
>>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
>>> attacked, and every
>>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and
>>> will diligently
>>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them;
>>> and thus he will
>>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
>>> thank God for the
>>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
>>> self-deception." -
>>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can
>>> distort them as much as you please".
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Arial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never let =
>>>>the weight=20
>>>> of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> democratic =
>>>>processes.=20
>>>> We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and <BR>> =
>>>>knowledgeable=20
>>>> citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial =
>>>><BR>> and=20
>>>> military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals,
> =
>>>>so=20
>>>> <BR>> that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight =
>>>>D.=20
>>>> Eisenhower, <BR>> 1961</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Deej also said "An alert and =
>>>>knowledgable=20
>>>> citizenry depends upon an alert and knowldegable CIA" </FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> "...it makes one wonder =
>>>>about the=20
>>>> illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of <BR>> our unemployed =
>>>>really=20
>>>> victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those <BR>> illegal =
>>>>tourists=20
>>>> actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is <BR>> =
>>>>certain=20
>>>> in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it
> =
>>>><BR>>=20
>>>> results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters." -
> =
>>>>Ronald=20
>>>> <BR>> Reagan</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I agree with this. I also think I
> =
>>>>should not=20
>>>> have to produce any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should
>>> =
>>>>be my=20
>>>> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay. Paying =
>>>>vehicle=20
>>>> insurance is such a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to do hqat =
>>>>either. I=
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>>> they could find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we
> =
>>>>could=20
>>>> pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas and they =
>>>>would=20
>>>> kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat and set up a=20
>>>> casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." - =
>>>>Christopher=20
>>>> Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they are
>>> =
>>>>going to=20
>>>> have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
>>>>from 7.30=20
>>>> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they
> =
>>>>started at=20
>>>> 6:30".-Groucho Marx<BR></FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Patriotism is the last =
>>>>refuge of a=20
>>>> scoundrel" - Samuel Johnson</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT size=3D+0>=93When we have lost everything, including =
>>>>hope, life=20
>>>> becomes a disgrace, and death a duty."-</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>>>>size=3D2><FONT=20
>>>> face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>W.C.
>>> =
>>>>
>>>> Fields</FONT></FONT><BR>> <BR>> "Oh, my God! Space aliens! =
>>>>Don't eat=20
>>>> me! I have a wife and kids. Eat <BR>> them!" - Homer =
>>>>Simpson</DIV>
>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><BR>> <BR>> "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant =
>>>>protest=20
>>>> sign from Simpsons <BR>> episode</DIV>
>>>> <DIV> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV>"We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.<BR><BR>>
> =
>>>>
>>>> <BR>> Courage,<BR>> Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . .=20
>>>> )</FONT></DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>>>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I thoroughly disapprove of duels.
>>> =
>>>>If a man=20
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>>>> =
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>>>> face=3DArial=20
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>>>></FONT></A><BR><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>> "Rich Lamanna" <</FONT><A=20
>>>> href=3D"mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>richard.lamanna@verizon.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial
> =
>>>>size=3D2>>=20
>>>> wrote in message <BR>> </FONT><A =
>>>>href=3D"news:464ce932@linux"><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>news:464ce932@linux</FONT></A><FONT =
>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>> size=3D2>...<BR>>> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you =
>>>>can all=20
>>>> fan the flames. Why <BR>>> the<BR>>> heck not welcome =
>>>>some more=20
>>>> illegals.<BR>>><BR>>> </FONT><A=20
>>>> =
>>>>href=3D"http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm"><FON=
>>>>T=20
>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>> =
>>>>size=3D2>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm</FON=
>>>>T></A><BR><FONT=20
>>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>>><BR>>> "Eternal vigilance is the =
>>>>price of=20
>>>> liberty." -- Wendell Phillips<BR>>><BR>>> "No man is =
>>>>entitled to=20
>>>> the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in <BR>>>=20
>>>> its<BR>>> preservation." -- General Douglas=20
>>>> MacArthur<BR>>><BR>>> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- =
>>>>posted=20
>>>> as an announcement outside a<BR>>> Unitarian Church in Texas =
>>>>on Sept.=20
>>>> 17, 2001<BR>>><BR>>> "In the beginning of a change the =
>>>>patriot=20
>>>> is a scarce man, and brave, and<BR>>> hated<BR>>> and =
>>>>scorned.
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industry. Lots of power
>> needed
>> to electrolize it out of ore.)
>>
>> The same electricity that is used to split the alulminum oxide back to
>> aluminum
>> could just as easily be used to split water directly into hydrogen and
>> oxygen.
>> He's just moved the process from a most likely more efficient power plant
>> right into a 350 pound pile of rocks in your car. Two conversions instead
>> of one, undoubtedly more inefficient, to save the trouble of creating a
>> hydrogen
>> infrastructure. Maybe good. Maybe not.
>>
>> The other problem with hydrogen, namely it's tendency to leak right
>> through
>> seals and hoses, would still remain.
>>
>> Very interesting story. I wish I could get enthused about it...
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't know about climbing hills, but I do know the city of Lansing Mi.
>> has
>>> been using hydrogen powered buses and trucks since 1975.
>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Bush and his oil buddies won't like this!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18700750/
>>>> Oh yeah, and that's why both Bushe brothers continually veto the
>>>> building of new oil platforms...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And this guy has a long way to go before his idea is credible.
>>>> Blaming it on egos is a bad start....
>>>> shows real promise.
>>>>
>>>> He has not spoken of how much hydrogen his device puts out,
>>>> and remember, it is only 40% as powerful as gasoline per volume
>>>> so your car will lose a lot of its power. Remember also, this
>>>> weaker car now has to pull you and your family up the hill to
>>>> Las Vegas... Can it produce enough hydrogen on demand to pull
>>>> this off?
>>>>
>>>> What is the cost per mile of gallium and aluminum refills?
>>>>
>>>> How far does the tank take you without a refill?
>>>>
>>>> So far, I am not impressed.
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>>
>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:

>Think how pathetically desperate a group must be if the only way they
>can dream up to communicate is through terrorism.

This is dangerously naive... There is an aspect of depravity in operation
with terrorists and to deny it is willful blindness.


With these very different views it is no wonder that common ground
is hard to find.

DC"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I'm thinking about moving to Eugene, just because I'm sure I'd fit in there.
>
>;oD


Hah! for a week maybe... They have a great bakery there on the main
drag though.

Try Grants Pass. Much cooler people.

DCTom, let us know more about this.

James

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I'm considering an attachme
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ize=3D2>Just a consideration.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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>
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isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain."
>>>> -- Winston Churchill
>>>>
>>>> Guidance,
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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James,
Actually the guy who is doing this is not a mechanic
he's my tech for the studio/road gear. He fixed my Genelec 1037s
when Genelec wouldn't, DBX 161 where parts were unavailable
and Telefunken V72 with intermittent problems.

He wants to market this so is keeping it close to the vest.
I've seen his '96 V8 Suburban running very smoothly. He gained
almost exactly 30% using this contraption (3rd stage of development).
He is engaging a few select mechanics to give it a good local run first.
He might put some details on a website in the near future. He has a
picture of all the components that I asked for a copy of but he wouldn't =

release it to me. It's remarkably simple except for the one natural =
ingredient
he adds to the distilled water to help produce the hydrogen. He claims =
that only
distilled water need be added and that the small amount of this other =
ingredient
is permanent and should never need to be added again. Silly simple.

I'm not much on the technology involved but the savings and pollution
reduction is worth it's weight in gold/gas. I would more than regain =
the $500=20
investment within the first twelve months given the fuel prices of =
$3/gal or=20
more.

I most concerned with the protection of the engine. He claims it's =
safe.
If for any reason it should fail it isn't needed anyway in an emergency =
on the road. =20
Flip the switch he installs on the dash and go on your way. He said it =
can be a=20
volatile situation but he has made it completely safe by using the =
ingredient (I'll get=20
the name again next time I speak with him) he has chosen.

This is right now "it works" technology. It's not expensive. Perfect.
Tom



"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:464e8faf$1@linux...

Tom, let us know more about this.

James

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>I'm considering an attachment that will give 30% better fuel mileage
>on almost any vehicle. $500 installed. Refill with distilled water =
=3D
>every
>300-400 miles. $3.00/gallon is down to $2.00/gal.. It gets 40% out
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>of a diesel. I've seen it and it works. There are some real pros =
on=3D20
>this system. =3D20
>
>The hydrogen is burned at such a fast rate the valves don't
>get oxidation damage. It isn't in mass production but I might get =
one =3D
>for my
>older 94 Chevy 1500 to see how it works. Simple install, fused, =3D
>amperage
>meter, hose to the carb/fuel injector and a small tank that seems
>smaller than a bread box. Might be tight under the hood of some =
cars. =3D20
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ading!!! Exhaust is cleaner too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It can be removed and installed =
in =3D
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>was a problem for the designer =
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>hack the car computers to adapt =
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>on that now.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Just a =
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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remember,
=3D
>it is=3D20
> only 40% as powerful as gasoline per volume<BR>so your car will =
lose a
=3D
>lot of=3D20
> its power. Remember also, this<BR>weaker car now has to =3D
>pull you=3D20
> and your family up the hill to<BR>Las Vegas... Can it produce =3D
>enough=3D20
> hydrogen on demand to pull<BR>this off?<BR>&l
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an attachment that will =
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diesel.&nbsp; I've seen it and it works.&nbsp; There are some real =
pros=20
on=3D20<BR>&gt;this system. =3D20<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;The hydrogen is =
burned at such a=20
fast rate the valves don't<BR>&gt;get oxidation damage.&nbsp; It isn't =
in mass=20
production but I might get one =3D<BR>&gt;for my<BR>&gt;older 94 Chevy =
1500 to=20
see how it works.&nbsp; Simple install, fused, =
=3D<BR>&gt;amperage<BR>&gt;meter,=20
hose to the carb/fuel injector and a small tank that =
seems<BR>&gt;smaller than=20
a bread box.&nbsp; Might be tight under the hood of some cars. =
=3D20<BR>&gt;It=20
is easily removed for inspections.&nbsp; They won't pass because the=20
=3D<BR>&gt;emissions=3D20<BR>&gt;are so low it gives a false =
reading!!!&nbsp;=20
Exhaust is cleaner too.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;It can be removed and installed =
in=20
another vehicle easily.&nbsp; Only one =3D<BR>&gt;install<BR>&gt;was a =
problem=20
for the designer so far out of 10+.&nbsp; The computer in the =
=3D<BR>&gt;Ford=20
van=3D20<BR>&gt;would make the fuel mixture richer to compensate for =
the changes=20
the =3D&l
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t;BR>&gt;hydrogen box<BR>&gt;created.&nbsp; Turned out to COST =
him 30% in=20
gas mileage!&nbsp; The next step is =3D<BR>&gt;to<BR>&gt;hack the car =
computers=20
to adapt for this inexpensive device.&nbsp; He's =
=3D<BR>&gt;working<BR>&gt;on=20
that now.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Just a =
consideration.<BR>&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "DC"=20
&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:dc@spammersinhell.com">dc@spammersinhell.com</A>&gt; =
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
hre
Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #83878 is a reply to message #83876] Mon, 30 April 2007 15:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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f=3D"news:464e2664$1@linux">news:464e2664$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;<BR>&g=
t;&nbsp;=20
"James&nbsp; McCloskey" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com">excelsm@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;Bush and his oil buddies =
won't=20
like this!<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18700750/<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Oh =
yeah, and=20
that's why both Bushe brothers continually=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; veto the =
building=20
of new oil platforms...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; And this guy has =
a long=20
way to go before his idea is credible.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Blaming it on =
egos is a=20
bad start....<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Money to finance his research would not be =
hard to=20
find if it<BR>&gt;&nbsp; shows real promise.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; He =
has not=20
spoken of how much hydrogen his devic
Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #83880 is a reply to message #83820] Mon, 30 April 2007 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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emember also, =
this<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
weaker car now has to pull you and your family up the hill =
to<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
Las Vegas...&nbsp; Can it produce enough hydrogen on demand to=20
pull<BR>&gt;&nbsp; this off?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; What is the cost =
per mile=20
of gallium and aluminum refills?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; How far does =
the tank=20
take you without a refill?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; So far, I am not=20
impressed.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
DC<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR >&gt;I=20
choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
you?<BR>&gt;http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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bgColor=3D3D#ffffff&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
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considering an attachment that will<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;give =
30%=3D20<BR>&gt;better fuel=20
mileage&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;on almost any vehicle. $500 =3D<BR>&gt;installed. =
=3D20<BR>&gt;Refill=20
with distilled water =
every&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;300-400 miles. $3.00/gallon is =
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out&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =

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are some
Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #83881 is a reply to message #83873] Mon, 30 April 2007 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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real pros on =
&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;this system.=20
&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;The hydrogen is burned at such a fast =3D<BR>&gt;rate=20
the=3D20<BR>&gt;valves =
don't&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;get oxidation damage. It =3D<BR>&gt;isn't =
in=20
mass=3D20<BR>&gt;production but I might get one for=20
my&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;older 94 Chevy 1500 to see how it =3D<BR>&gt;works.=20
=3D20<BR>&gt;Simple install, fused,=20
amperage&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;meter, hose to the carb/fuel injector =
=3D<BR>&gt;and=3D20<BR>&gt;a=20
small tank that =
seems&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;smaller than a bread box. Might =
=3D<BR>&gt;be=20
tight=3D20<BR>&gt;under the &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2&gt;hood=20
of some cars. =
=3D<BR>&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR >&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2&gt;It is easily removed for =
=3D<BR>&gt;inspections.=20
They=3D20<BR>&gt;won't pass because &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;the emissions=20
=3D<BR>&gt;&lt;/FONT
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&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR >&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;are so low it gives a false=3D20<BR>&gt;reading!!! =
Exhaust is=20
cleaner too.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;It can be removed and installed in =3D<BR>&gt;another=20
vehicle=3D20<BR>&gt;easily. Only one=20
install&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;was a problem for the designer so far =3D<BR>&gt;out=20
of=3D20<BR>&gt;10+. The computer in the Ford van=20
&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;<BR>&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2&gt;would make &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT face=3D3DArial=20
=3D<BR>&gt;size=3D3D2&gt;the fu
Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #83884 is a reply to message #83881] Mon, 30 April 2007 17:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rich, Deej, holy crap dudes.&nbsp; The =
policies of=20
this administration?&nbsp; Are you seriously defending this=20
administration?&nbsp; Help me!&nbsp; Yes, clearly the world so much a =
better=20
place now than 6 years ago. I know I feel safer.&nbsp; Jeezus, come=20
on!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Listen, I despise fundamentalism of any =
stripe, and=20
I particularly despise these Islamic fundies who think they have a =
divine right=20
to kill in the name of Allah . . . the divine right to kill people who =
believe=20
in the same f***ing god they do!&nbsp; The idiots TOOK their god from =
the=20
Christians/Jews, for God's sake.&nbsp; :)&nbsp; As far as I'm concerned =
these=20
lunatics have a divine right to DIE, and that's it.&nbsp; And that goes=20
for&nbsp;anyone else who reasons that they&nbsp;should kill in the name =
of=20
God,&nbsp;Grrrr . . . where's my Winchester . . . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However . . . BIG however . . . this is =
not what=20
we're doing in Iraq, it's never been what we're doing in Iraq, and it's =
never=20
been the reason we went there in the first place.&nbsp; And I can't =
believe=20
anyone still believes the&nbsp;calculated bullshit&nbsp;that got us=20
there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I think history will tell =
us:&nbsp;=20
this was the most corrupt and destructive administration in US history, =
and the=20
damage they did took years to recover from.&nbsp; (I'm =
optimistic)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just my opinion.&nbsp; I could be=20
wrong.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Naaaa!&nbsp; :)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>S</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"DJ" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A href=3D"news:464ddbf0@linux">news:464ddbf0@linux</A>...</DIV>
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d; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The thing that has always intrigued =
me is how the=20
folks on the far left in this country slag the only administration =
that is=20
willing to fight for their right to slag the administration. The=20
leftleaning/outspoken first amendment loving folks will be the first =
to be=20
slaughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in defeating the =
policies=20
of this administration.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>go figure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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