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| Re: Great River NV Question [message #80376 is a reply to message #80369] |
Tue, 20 February 2007 11:49   |
Neil
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Registered: April 2006
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> Should we ignore the compelling evidence that C02 is a primary cause of
> the current warming event?
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> From: http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/12/26/224933/67
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> "Objection: In the geological record, it is clear that CO2 does not
> trigger climate changes. Why should it be any different now?
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> Answer: Given the fact that human industrialization is unique in the
> history of planet earth, do we really need historical precedent for
> CO2-triggered climate change before we accept what we observe today?
> Surely it is not far-fetched that unprecedented consequences would follow
> from unprecedented events.
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> But putting this crucial point aside, history does indeed provide some
> relevant insights and dire warnings.
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> During the glacial/interglacial cycles, temperatures and CO2
> concentrations showed remarkable correlation. Closer examination reveals
> that CO2 does not lead the temperature changes, but lags by many
> centuries. Even so, the full extent of the warming can not be explained
> without the effects of CO2. Though these cycles do not demonstrate that
> greenhouse gas initiated warming, they do lend credence to the importance
> of CO2 and CH4 in setting the planetary thermostat.
>
> There are also events in geological history when sharp rises in
> temperature were initiated and driven by large spikes in greenhouse
> gases -- not unlike the fossil-fuel-emissions spike today. The Paleocene
> Eocene Thermal Maximum is such a case. Roughly 55 million years ago, ocean
> pH levels dropped drastically and global temperatures rapidly rose over
> 5oC. The resolution of available proxy records indicates that this
> occurred in a period of time no longer than 5K years; it's not possible to
> know if it happened even faster. The likely cause was massive releases of
> methane from the ocean floors, perhaps due to some smaller warming or
> changes in sea level. It took over 100K years for the ocean, atmosphere,
> and temperatures to return to their previous state. The result was a mass
> extinction event that took millions of years to recover from.
>
> We can also look at the formation of the Deccan Traps. In this case, a
> massive and sustained volcanic action altered atmospheric chemistry and
> caused a drastic climate change, one that lead to the extinction of the
> dinosaurs. And Snowball Earth theories involve the build-up of greenhouse
> gases as the mechanism by which the earth eventually escaped
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| Re: Great River NV Question [message #80396 is a reply to message #80394] |
Tue, 20 February 2007 15:41 |
TC
Messages: 327
Registered: September 2005
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(859) 635-5762
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>Don't know and don't care. I build my own computers that do the things that
I want them to do. They're cheap, the parts can be replaced or interchanged
and since they've basically got my name on them rather than someone else's,
it's my own fault if they crap out 99.9999% of the time.
The genius bar around here is a banquet table covered with gadgets, a SenFu
test bench with a PSU sitting on it, a monitor, keyboard, mouse and some
other crap with a power strip velcroed to one end of it.
If I get hosed, it's usually self induced.
;o)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
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> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
> computer
> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These warranties
> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It was
> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple is
> going by the industry standard.
>
> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They have
> basically the same warranty.
>
> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>
> James
>
> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
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| Re: Great River NV Question [message #80398 is a reply to message #80396] |
Tue, 20 February 2007 16:58 |
Neil
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gt;because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up more
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>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of the
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>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
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>>> when
>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>> resellers,
>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>
>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
> as
>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>
>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>> (bribed)
>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>> taught
>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>
>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
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>>> install,
>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>
>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
>
>>>>massive
>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>>> copies
>>>>of XP in particular are educational
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