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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97490 is a reply to message #97488] |
Thu, 27 March 2008 16:25   |
Mark McDermott
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drive had to be defragged. I did
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>>>> notice
>>>> that there was a limited amount of space on the drive, which I felt
might
>>>> be a contributing factor. Once I started the defrag process, the
>>>> performance
>>>> slowed to a snail's pace and then I received a message that the defrag
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>>>> process
>>>> could not continue and the system froze. Upon a reboot, I was now told
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>>>> that
>>>> the audio drive had errors. Even though I back-up religiously, there
>is
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>>>> always
>>>> new data that may get missed. after several reboots. I was able to get
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>>>> into
>>>> the drive and copy the few files that had not been backed up.
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>>>> A bigger problem arose today. When I booted up, I forgot that the failed
>>>> audio drive was still inline. Despite opening yesterday, I heard several
>>>> clicks and then received the Blue Screen" message, (paraphrasing here)
>>"A
>>>> childlike device was connected to your PCI..." I have seen that message
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>>>> some
>>>> years ago and it is typically very bad news. Now it seems My "system"
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>>>> drive
>>>> no longer boots...full crash, though the problem I had was initially
>with
>>>> the audio drive failing. At startup, I'm receiving "Insert Boot Disc"
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>>>> messages.
>>>> I'm hoping that I do not have to reformat the "system" drive.
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>>>> Any and all assistance greatly app
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97494 is a reply to message #97491] |
Thu, 27 March 2008 18:05 |
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rocess, the
>>>> performance
>>>> slowed to a snail's pace and then I received a message that the defrag
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>>>> process
>>>> could not continue and the system froze. Upon a reboot, I was now told
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>>>> that
>>>> the audio drive had errors. Even though I back-up religiously, there
>is
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>>>> always
>>>> new data that may get missed. after several reboots. I was able to get
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>>>> into
>>>> the drive and copy the few files that had not been backed up.
>>>>
>>>> A bigger problem arose today. When I booted up, I forgot that the failed
>>>> audio drive was still inline. Despite opening yesterday, I heard several
>>>> clicks and then received the Blue Screen" message, (paraphrasing here)
>>"A
>>>> childlike device was connected to your PCI..." I have seen that message
>>
>>>> some
>>>> years ago and it is typically very bad news. Now it seems My "system"
>&g
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97496 is a reply to message #97488] |
Thu, 27 March 2008 17:26 |
Aaron Allen
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re.
Oh well, I guess I'm dragging my spare MEC out of storage.
-David
EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Aaron is quite correct... only 4 cards "live" at one time. Why have 9
>slots? Choice. You could have 16 channels worth of analog I/O and 16
>channels worth of adat I/O for 8 cards, and the SMPTE card, which makes
>9. This would give you the option of having all 16 I/O digital, or
>analog, or a mix.
>
>David.
>
>David Feldman wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand.
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>> In the itemized list in the patch bay on the right hand side, I only see
>> "Modules A" which only shows 16 ins and 16 outs.
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>> Do you mean to say that each MEC can only run up to two input and output
>> modules? If that's the case, then why in the world does the MEC have
9 expansion
>> slots? Am I going to have to run a whole extra 4-rack-unit MEC just to
use
>> my extra modules? Or is there a more efficient workaround that I don't
know
>> about here? Or am I misunderstanding this completely?
>>
>> Somebody help explain this to me.
>> -David
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>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> To clarify, you can only have 2 input and 2 output modules per MEC, giving
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>>> you 16 ins and 16 outs for each Paris submixer.
>>>
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97515 is a reply to message #97484] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 09:45 |
TCB
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slowly widdled it down to 2. When I solved the last 2, another 300 appeared
because the compilation process could now progress further (and hit more
problems).
Chuck has been completely run off his feet and not even on the continent
much of the time. When he gets a chance, the Mac will come. It a huge kindness
for him to offer to send it. Until then, I'm learning a lot about C++ through
these efforts, so it is a joy for me to do it. It would also be nice to
leave VC++ 6.0 behind for a more modern compiler on the PC, which could follow
from this work.
I don't have any firm release dates, but I want you guys to know that I am
trying, and one way or another, we will get there. :)
All the best,
MikeIt's like two more electrons per hour hang at one end of the cable. Basic
laws of physics state that on a conductor unless you do something to it the
electrons will spread themselves out pretty evenly. I haven't poured tequila
into a glass and had it hang out on one side away from the ice recently.
But Eric is nuts, and a far better geetar player than I am, so who knows?
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97528 is a reply to message #97491] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 13:17 |
Bill L
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might be FUD, but it makes
some sense.
TCBMacs suck!!!
(dang, sorry, it just slipped out...).
I don't know, but the bass player in one of the bands I'm in just got
the Euphonix and loves it with Logic. He dumped the Logic Control fader
box which he says was junk in comparison. So if you can wait it out, it
sounds like their stuff is worth the wait. Or buy a Mac. ;^)
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> So, I'm looking seriously for a flying fader hardware controller for my home
> mixing rig. So, I get in touch with one of my friends who is an 'industry
> insider' that I still know from back when I was an 'industry insider.' Industry
> insider says, 'Hands down, now question, the Euphonix Artist series. They
> could double the price and sell them, couldn't use Logic without it.' I
> remind him that I'm not a Mac guy. He says PC support should be ready now,
> says he'll ask around.
>
> I hear back, he says PC support was slated for April, the pushed back, now
> for late '08. He also says he swears he saw a pretty solid version of the
> Eucon software for the PC before, used with the Artist series. Then he opines
> that he thinks Euphonix/Apple/Logic did a 'nod and wink' deal to keep the
> product Mac only and that Euphonix is known as a 'Mac shop.'
>
> Can anyone here c
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97529 is a reply to message #97494] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 13:20 |
Bill L
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onfirm/deny any of this. It's might be FUD, but it makes
> some sense.
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> TCBWhat luxury! In my day we just used the board EQ - and liked it!
I never owned an analog board with built in compression, but if I did I
would probably have used it for most things, I'm sure (especially if it
was a Neve or API).
TCB wrote:
> Yeah, it really is. I've been doing more and more test mixes with the LM and
> the main problem I seem to have is confusion with all of the different models.
> So, I settled on 3-4 EQs and 3-4 comps that I use all the time unless something
> just isn't happening. So my 'go-to' EQ is the Massive Passive model (pretty
> in your face, but it works with the Monx) and the default comp model is the
> one from the Neve VR. Those I know well, 2-3 others I know OK, and I go fishing
> for special f/x if necessary.
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> It's lots 'o fun,
>
> TCB
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> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>> LM is very cool.
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>> Hey LaMont,
>>>
>>> I'm not a huge fan of hardware dongles, but the copy protection on Waves
>>> was as bad as I've ever seen as of a few years ago.
>>>
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97531 is a reply to message #97495] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 13:25 |
Bill L
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for a flying fader hardware controller for my home
> mixing rig. So, I get in touch with one of my friends who is an 'industry
> insider' that I still know from back when I was an 'industry insider.' Industry
> insider says, 'Hands down, now question, the Euphonix Artist series. They
> could double the price and sell them, couldn't use Logic without it.' I
> remind him that I'm not a Mac guy. He says PC support should be ready now,
> says he'll ask around.
>
> I hear back, he says PC support was slated for April, the pushed back, now
> for late '08. He also says he swears he saw a pretty solid version of the
> Eucon software for the PC before, used with the Artist series. Then he opines
> that he thinks Euphonix/Apple/Logic did a 'nod and wink' deal to keep the
> product Mac only and that Euphonix is known as a 'Mac shop.'
>
> Can anyone here confirm/deny any of this. It's might be FUD, but it makes
> some sense.
>
> TCBhttp://www.audiodamage.com/
http://www.stillwellaudio.com/?page_id=39
There are a lot of cool toys to play
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97533 is a reply to message #97529] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 15:29 |
TCB
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ot; <mike@...> wrote:
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>>Hi Guys,
>>
>>I just thought I'd post an update so that the Mac users know that I have
>>been working hard to try to bring you guys the plugs.
>>
>>I've got CodeWarrior 5.0 running in a Power PC emulator that runs OS 9
on
>>my PC. The compiler runs perfectly.
>>
>>I've been trying to migrate the PARIS code to the more standard C++ used
>>by CodeWarrior. The Plugins were developed for Visual Studio 6, and as
>is
>>typical for Microsft, the C++ employed by Visual C++ does not adhere to
>the
>>accepted standards. So, there are a zillion changes needed to make the
>code
>>work. Include file names, class names, and the inner workings of the code
>>and compiler are all very different.
>>
>>I started out with 300 compile errors (which I think is the maximum) and
>>slowly widdled it down to 2. When I solved the last 2, another 300 appeared
>>because the compilation process could now progress further (and hit more
>>problems).
>>
>>Chuck has been completely run off his feet and not even on the continent
>>much of the time. When he gets a chance, the Mac will come. It a huge
kindness
>>for him to offer to send it. Until then, I'm learning a lot about C++
through
>>these efforts, so it is a joy for me to do it. It would also be nice to
>>leave VC++ 6.0 behind for a more modern compiler on the PC, which could
>follow
>>from this work.
>>
>>I don't have any firm release dates, but I want you guys to know that I
>am
>>trying, and one way or another, we will get there. :)
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Mike
>Hi Kim,
Thanks so posting your experience with it! I agree. It just sounds like
a sweet drum room - very real and sweet.
Would you feel comfortable posting a preset of your tweaks? Some people
have asked me for presets, and aside from the defailt ones I set up, I don't
have any.
All the best!
Mike
"Ki
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97536 is a reply to message #97528] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 15:37 |
Jamie K
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>>>accepted standards. So, there are a zillion changes needed to make the
>>code
>>>work. Include file names, class names, and the inner workings of the
>>>code
>>>and compiler are all very different.
>>>
>>>I started out with 300 compile errors (which I think is the maximum) and
>>>slowly widdled it down to 2. When I solved the last 2, another 300
>>>appeared
>>>because the compilation process could now progress further (and hit more
>>>problems).
>>>
>>>Chuck has been completely run off his feet and not even on the continent
>>>much of the time. When he gets a chance, the Mac will come. It a huge
> kindness
>>>for him to offer to send it. Until then, I'm learning a lot about C++
> through
>>>these efforts, so it is a joy for me to do it. It would also be nice to
>>>leave VC++ 6.0 behind for a more modern compiler on the PC, which could
>>follow
>>>from this work.
>>>
>>>I don't have any firm release dates, but I want you guys to know that I
>>am
>>>trying, and one way or another, we will get there. :)
>>>
>>>All the best,
>>>
>>>Mike
>>
>It's an evil Mac conspiracy, they even dropped Logic Studio 2 to $499, and
did you hear, they are trying to steal business customers with their iPhones
with Exchange server support?
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>So, I'm looking seriously for a flying fader hardware controller for my
home
>mixing rig. So, I get in touch with one of my friends who is an 'industry
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97537 is a reply to message #97533] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 15:44 |
Bill L
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>insider' that I still know from back when I was an 'industry insider.' Industry
>insider says, 'Hands down, now question, the Euphonix Artist series. They
>could double the price and sell them, couldn't use Logic without it.' I
>remind him that I'm not a Mac guy. He says PC support should be ready now,
>says he'll ask around.
>
>I hear back, he says PC support was slated for April, the pushed back, now
>for late '08. He also says he swears he saw a pretty solid version of the
>Eucon software for the PC before, used with the Artist series. Then he opines
>that he thinks Euphonix/Apple/Logic did a 'nod and wink' deal to keep the
>product Mac only and that Euphonix is known as a 'Mac shop.'
>
>Can anyone here confirm/deny any of this. It's might be FUD, but it makes
>some sense.
>
>TCBIt took them years to figure out how to sterilize it properly first.
- k
(I wonder if there's much of a used market for those?)
On 6/17/08 5:06 PM, in article 485853b1$1@linux, "Bill L"
<bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
> Finally!Hey Mike.
Loving it more and more....
I have been setting up a new mix tonight, and whilst messing with the predelay,
I noticed that setting it to zero,
actually sounds as though it is more like 0.1 sec.
(longer than the available 80 ms.)
Is this possible?
No biggie, as 0.01 sounds fine, as a minimum.
Just wondering if this is an anomaly.
If it is, don't fix it, as I have warmed to this thing on vocals,
and the extra 20 ms (as available on the stock Paris plate), is
often useful.
(Unless ofcourse, you could up the maximum predelay.)
KimThere's no law that says people have to make smart business decisions.
TCB
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>That would be a ridiculous business decision, unless they were paid to
>stall the release (which would still be a bad choice). More likely they
>just don't have experienced PC driver programmers.
>
>Or else it's a conspiracy...
>
>TCB wrote:
>> So, I'm looking seriously for a flying fader hardware controller for my
home
>> mixing rig. So, I get in touch with one of my friends who is an 'industry
>> insider' that I still know from back when I was an 'industry insider.'
Industry
>> insider says, 'Hands down, now question, the Euphonix Artist series. They
>> could double the price and sell them, couldn't use Logic without it.'
I
>> remind him that I'm not a Mac guy. He says PC support should be ready
now,
>> says he'll ask around.
>>
>> I hear back, he says PC support was slated for April, the pushed back,
now
>> for late '08. He also says he swears he saw a pretty solid version of
the
>> Eucon software for the PC before, used with the Artist series. Then he
opines
>> that he thinks Euphonix/Apple/Logic did a 'nod and wink' deal to keep
the
>> product Mac only and that Euphonix is known as a 'Mac shop.'
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97539 is a reply to message #97533] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 17:51 |
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Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for posting your observation! I'm just finishing a school semester,
but I will look into this as soon as I can.
There does apppear to be a 3dB bump in the middle. Weird.
I just took the blend code from the reverbs and grafted it into the compressor.
Maybe I introduced a bug.
Cheers!
Mike
"jeremy luzier" <none@comcast.net> wrote:
>great job on getting these cool new effect mike. the new plate is really
>freeking amazing.
>
>hey so i was messing with this new compresssor.
>
>the mix knob is a GREAT feature. but it doesn't work right. or at least
it
>doesn't work the work I THINK it should... which may not be right.
>
>set it up so you have NO compressrion going on. threshold at 0 and ratio
at
>1:1.
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>the volume is the same when mix knob is at 0 and 100.
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>but when mix knob is anywhere in between the volume is louder. most obvious
>when the mix knob is at 50... of course.
>
>shouldn't the mix knob be balancing the 2 signals evenly?? so when the
mix
>knob is set to 50... you get the same overall level... but with 50% no
>effect and 50% effect.
>
>jeremy
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>On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:13:41 -0700, Kerry Galloway
<kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>It took them years to figure out how to sterilize it properly first.
>
>- k
>
>(I wonder if there's much of a used market for those?)
>
Actually, yes. All you need to do is replace the tubing with another
6- or 7-foot piece of clear aquarium tubing, and you're good to go.
That's the only icky part. If you want to wipe the mounting nipple
(yes, I said "mounting nipple". Get over it.) with disinfectant, you
can. Probably shouldn't spray Lysol into the throat of the driver....
pab
As a side note -- my Talkbox is a production mate to Frampton's
original Heil Talkbox. Mine is in need of refurbishing, but it came
from the same fiberglass run that Peter's did."Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote in message news:48599a0e$1@linux...
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> Hi Jeremy,
>
> Thanks for posting your observation! I'm just finishing a school
> semester,
> but I will look into this as soon as I can.
>
> There does apppear to be a 3dB bump in the middle. Weird.
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97540 is a reply to message #97504] |
Fri, 28 March 2008 18:04 |
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> I just took the blend code from the reverbs and grafted it into the
> compressor.
> Maybe I introduced a bug.
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> Cheers!
>
> Mike
Friggin hack!
sheesh!
heheheheSince it's a fixed install you could use solid electrical copper wire.
Maybe that would be good?
Sanbar wrote:
> Hi Everyone
>
> I'm building a new house and want to wire some in wall speakers myself. I'm
> probably going to use speakercraft aim 7-3's in the ceiling and am looking
> for a place to get 16 gauge 4 and 2 conductor speaker wire at a decent
> price. I'm open to other speaker suggestions if anyone has some ideas. I'm
> really crunched on time because the drywall is going in shortly.
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
> Barry
>
>cool. i understand this is a serious hobby and you have other priorities.
i'm sure everyone loves the work you are doing. certainly no one expects
uad-1 like "support".
you are in school... cool! i thought we were all old-ish dudes here.
:-)
best regards,
jeremy"all oldish dudes here"... hell if most of us here lived in
afghanistan...we'd be dead of natural causes; me for about 9 years
already. soooooooooooooo mike........lets get on the stick already.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:34:34 -0500, "jeremy luzier" <none@comcast.net>
wrote:
>cool. i understand this is a serious hobby and you have other priorities.
>i'm sure everyone loves the work you are doing. certainly no one expects
>uad-1 like "support".
>
>you are in school... cool! i thought we were all old-ish dudes here.
>
>:-)
>
>best regards,
>
>jeremy
>
>18 guage lamp cord from home depot work
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97602 is a reply to message #97537] |
Sun, 30 March 2008 09:16 |
TCB
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I've got a collection of them and I'm stringing them together. When you
> get
> about 20 of them strung end-to-end and lay the strands out side by side,
> they look like dreadlocks. I'm gonna' sew them into one of one of those
> Cheberets
> and wear it when I go down to the natural food store here. I should fit
> right
> in.
>
> ;o)
>Thanks, Tom!
I've got some more goodies coming soonish. I've been editing a variable
knee compressor that I found in the noLimit folder Chuck posted, I've been
chipping away at the gated reverb, I've got an algo coded to generate white
noise for snares, and I'm working on the Mac ports. I got my marks in yesterday,
and the summer holidays officially start on Friday.
Good things are coming!
All the best,
Mike
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Sounds so rich and made another session easy to setup and
>get a great verb happening instantly on four tunes. Verbs with short,
>long, short with generous predelay all sounded wide and sweet
>It's all there.
>
>Thanks for bringing this one to us Mike ! ! !
>
>Tom
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>Guys & Gals, looking for a good "recording Firewire Drive Case..What's the
latest chipset 911, 912....?? ThanksWe only use Alti verb for Orchestral stuff...My Main go to verbs are as follows:
-Wizoo W2 verb
-IK Classic Reverb
-Princeton 2016 Plate Verb
-Waves IR1
For Paris, I love the Original Plate reverb..I have not had a chance to listen
to the new Verbs form Mike..But, If Tom and other say they are better than
my fav stock Plate, then i'll I'll their word..
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>Goran and Mike,
>
>I have Altiverb 5 working here on XP. I'm not crazy about it though.
>Is 6 different? Mine is wrapped with FxPansion ver 3.3 .
>
>Goran, I'd suggest SIR if you want great reverbs in Paris or better yet
>check out Mike Audet's new Paris reverbs! They smoke the stock ones
>that came with Paris.
>
>Tom
>
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>"Mike Mullin " <mikemullin@primus.ca> wrote in message
>news:485d8de8$1@linux...
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>> Unfortunately no.
>>
>> "Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
>> >is there any way to make Altiverb work in Paris?
>> >
>> >Goran
>> >
>> >
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>Ah, Dog Truffles.
And the contents of the litter box too - known to dogs as "Kitty Roca".
- K
On 6/25/08 5:04 AM, in article 48623660@linux, "Sarah"
<sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> OK, but how do you keep your dogs from eating them? They're a dog delicacy,
> you know.
>
> Sjinx! jinx!~
You used the *S* word man!!!
AA
"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote in message news:4862500c$1@linux...
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> Thanks, Tom!
>
> I've got some more goodies coming soonish. I've been editing a variable
> knee compressor that I found in the noLimit folder Chuck posted, I've been
> chipping away at the gated reverb, I've got an algo coded to generate
> white
> noise for snares, and I'm working on the Mac ports. I got my marks in
> yesterday,
> and the summer holidays officially start on Friday.
>
> Good things are coming!
>
> All the best,
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Sounds so rich and made another session easy to setup and
>>get a great verb happening instantly on four tunes. Verbs with short,
>>long, short with generous predelay all sounded wide and sweet
>>It's all there.
>>
>>Thanks for bri
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| Re: Talk me out of this? [message #97640 is a reply to message #97602] |
Sun, 30 March 2008 21:15 |
Bill L
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;- Kerry
>Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular with
gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to try
it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was to
make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10 minutes
to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg of
memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from the
OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
run on it.
Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I installed
Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It ran
it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo tracks
and it ran those.
I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good. It
seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more commonly
available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm finished....
MBIn support of Kerry's findings, that is pretty much in line with sale
numbers from the Paris video, maybe even a little light from those numbers.
AA
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
news:C4927D67.B2A4%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Hi folks. Hereıs one of a series of updates/info posts (and - brace
> yourselves - some action requests) which Iıll be putting in separate
> posts.
>
> Iıve been working on some basic infrastructure that I reckon we need to
> support any forward motion. Blog/wiki/networking/development rig are
> certainly part of that infrastructure but we also had a serious need for
> hard info - things like current community size and composition etc. If we
> want to tell outside developers who we are as a community, we better know
> who we are first, and I had the suspicion that my "spitball" guesstimates
> weren't doing us much justice.
>
> Now, Iım not trained in data collection and analysis but I do fine at
> research and detective work, and what I lack in skills I cheerfully
> supplement with grunt work. I wanted to share one of the results of that
> basic research with you all.
>
> Iıve seen the question ³how big is the PARIS community?² asked several
> times
> before. As far as I know we never got a definitive answer. We've now got a
> fairly firm "floor" for the size of the current PARIS user community. It
> stands at an eye-opening (at least to me) 125 current users - and rising,
> so
> if anything thatıs an undercount. Mike Audet and I have independently come
> to an estimate of the user community worldwide (including PARIS users who
> don't come to the NG) as being in the vicinity of a healthy 400 current
> users.
>
> Surprised? Not bad for eight years after discontinuation!
>
> Iıll be clear - this is not derived from the number of NG posters - itıs
> derived from a fairly accurate hand count of the number of currently
> active
> PARIS *users* that Iıve identified on the NG over the last ten months, and
> is distinct from the size of the NG community itself. We needed that info
> broken out separately because while some developments (say the ability to
> open PARIS .ppjs without a PARIS rig) might indeed be of interest to
> ex-PARIS users too (who might still retain archives in .ppj format), other
> developments (say drivers) would really only be of interest to those who
> still have and use PARIS hardware.
>
> To gather those numbers I ruled out the past approach of polls and
> censuses;
> theyıre useful for getting a ³general sense of the community² but theyıre
> unreliable. I simply scanned through the NG posts going back an arbitrary
> length of time (10 months) and noted every poster I could in that recent
> timespan who indicated that theyıre current users (self-identification,
> posting PARIS-specific tech support questions, specific error code
> questions, etc). I put the info in a database to sort it in different ways
> so I could pretty confidently eliminate duplicates. It was a bit
> labour-intensive but the end result is that Iım fairly confident in that
> number as a ³hard floor² the loss of a few users in the intervening
> months
> would be counterbalanced by the certainty of undercount.
>
> Iıll finish with a general observation - ³what we were² or ³what we might
> once have been² has some minor academic/historical interest to me, but as
> a
> "minority case" - a returning user after years of absence - I naturally
> come
> to it from the perspective of ³where we are right now². Iım not interested
> in ³might have beens² any more - Iım interested in what we might achieve
> starting from here and going forward.
>
> So while it's true we were larger long ago, a hard floor of 125 real users
> is a good strong number, an excellent number, for aficionado-driven
> efforts
> for a discontinued niche market DAW to go forward with. Itı
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Jamie K
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umber of NG posters - itıs
>derived from a fairly accurate hand count of the number of currently active
>PARIS *users* that Iıve identified on the NG over the last ten months, and
>is distinct from the size of the NG community itself. We needed that info
>broken out separately because while some developments (say the ability to
>open PARIS .ppjs without a PARIS rig) might indeed be of interest to
>ex-PARIS users too (who might still retain archives in .ppj format), other
>developments (say drivers) would really only be of interest to those who
>still have and use PARIS hardware.
>
>To gather those numbers I ruled out the past approach of polls and censuses;
>theyıre useful for getting a ³general sense of the community² but theyıre
>unreliable. I simply scanned through the NG posts going back an arbitrary
>length of time (10 months) and noted every poster I could in that recent
>timespan who indicated that theyıre current users (self-identification,
>posting PARIS-specific tech support questions, specific error code
>questions, etc). I put the info in a database to sort it in different ways
>so I could pretty confidently eliminate duplicates. It was a bit
>labour-intensive but the end result is that Iım fairly confident in that
>number as a ³hard floor² the loss of a few users in the intervening months
>would be counterbalanced by the certainty of undercount.
>
>Iıll finish with a general observation - ³what we were² or ³what we might
>once have been² has some minor academic/historical interest to me, but as
a
>"minority case" - a returning user after years of absence - I naturally
come
>to it from the perspective of ³where we are right now². Iım not interested
>in ³might have beens² any more - Iım interested in what we might achieve
>starting from here and going forward.
>
>So while it's true we were larger long ago, a hard floor of 125 real users
>is a good strong number, an excellent number, for aficionado-driven efforts
>for a discontinued niche market DAW to go forward with. Itıs much larger
>than some aficionado groups for other pieces of discontinued technology,
and
>some of those smaller groups have got quite a lot of very meaningful work
>done. And 400 users worldwide may not be Nuendo numbers but for small
>developers itıs nothing to sneeze at.
>
>Hope this is of interest!
>
>- Kerry
>A wise-ass! (and no smiley face!)
Sarah wrote:
> It was the drugs dude. They make you wise. :) (Watch out, here comes Bill
> L . . . )
>
> S
>
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:486c2e0b@linux...
>> Yeah, I liked his analogy of the planet likening it to a "big electron",
>> woooooo, woooooo, wooooooo, wooooooo; I thought I was the only one who
>> pictured the solar system as part of a big molecule. What a philosophical
>> comedian, the dude was deep.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:486b6c8e@linux...
>>> Yeah, I think that was one of his best shows (Jammin' in New York, I
>> think).
>>> Here's another good over-the-top rant from the same show:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Rr0aTB8KI
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:486b5ee7$1@linux...
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ml_-vmy9npA&feature=related
>>>>
>>>> A little diversion, enjoy,
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>As much trouble as you two have emailing each other you should both
seriously consider creating a gmail account ( http://mail.google.com )
AA
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:486e1eca$1@linux...
>
> Hi Tom,
> I have posted this already on the graphics post I made but in case you did
> not catch it here it is again...
> Hi Tom,
> My emails still bounce back so I will use this forum to reply to your
> questions
> !
>
> Hi !!
> I hope that you are well with your foot !
> Regarding your questions all are positive !
> Yes sample accuraccy there.
> No pci extra just the synplate added to scope card.
> Use ASIO2 protocol under cubase.
> By starting Paris Cubase follows sample accurate.
> Let me know if you need more detailed instructions as how to do this !
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>I just figured it out. The universe creates black holes by creating sentient
beings, intelligent enough to discover and design technology enabling them
spawn a black hole. And POOF, there arises the black hole which gobbles up
the associated solar system. I postulate therefore that every black hole
which exists in the universe was created by a group of nuclear physicists
:-)
Rich
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:486dccfc$1@linux...
>
> "Deej" <
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