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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89843 is a reply to message #89835] Sat, 15 September 2007 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
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to understand personality defects??? That's
like
>>saying Greek sculptors lacked the ability to understand art because they
>>couldn't attend RISD. That's insane.
>
>
>Actually, it very much like saying Greek sculptors lacked the
>tools in predict computer art. As with Suetonius, we can do
>some rewarding guesswork, of course.

I'll skip the stuff about chimps, but your analogy is simply wrong. You said
Suetoniu

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89844 is a reply to message #89841] Sat, 15 September 2007 00:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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s lacked the tools to understand the defects in his subjects. That's
nothing like Greek sculptors not being able to predict computer art. The
ability to create art is something that all cultures in history have had,
they didn't need anything other than themselves to do it. Same goes for personality,
it might not use the technical language of modern psychology but from Montaigne
to Aquinas to Suetonius all the way back to Sophocles and Homer and those
predating even them people have been able to understand personality flaws.
Can I understand Plato in exactly the same way a third century BC Athenian
did? Of course not. But to claim that this robs me of any chance of gathering
something from his writing, and that he can't possibly have the tools to
understand personality defects because he was denied the opportunity to read
Hare, that is reductivist solipsism dressed in its most jarring, garish vestments.

TCB

>>Some of the tools we use to analyze
>>personality were built into us when we were still chimps.
>
>We were never chimps. The chimp line is a dead end with no
>connection to humans, despite them being a close DNA match.
>To claim so is to advocate a hopeful and orthodox,
>but sadly ignorant Darwinism in the face of the fossil record.
>
>
>>What we DO get from
>>him is some genuine psychological insight as well as a long and considered
>>discussion on the (very much

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89845 is a reply to message #89840] Sat, 15 September 2007 00:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
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then current) topic of what kind of leader
>is
>>the best one.
>
>Based upon our perspective. But, given our perspective, he
>would have described them differently.
>
>
>>Next time I want to read a book about psychopaths I'll check out the one
>>you linked to. But my understanding is that a mild/minor psychopath is

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89847 is a reply to message #89831] Sat, 15 September 2007 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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>Damn, wish we could have been there! That is the second one we missed!
That friday though, I was putting the finishing touches on my next CD, that
has taken my too, too long to get done.

My friend, Michael Gregory

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89854 is a reply to message #89831] Sat, 15 September 2007 04:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
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br /> >>>I’m more than c

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89855 is a reply to message #89831] Sat, 15 September 2007 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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ool with that. It still works, sounds great and I truly
>enjoy
>>>using it, not to mention the fact that it in no way hinders the artistic
>>>process!
>>>
>>>Looking forward to doing it again someday!
>>>
>>>Tyrone
>>>
>>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I checked out one of those Behringer Pedals, and they
>sound 'Better' than Roland-Boss pedals. Hands down.

AND... they now come with their own built-in halon dispensing
systems inside! lol :D


>Note: I've been playing the guitar for over 30 years now and
>I've owned pretty every boss pedal thru the years. My point:
>
>Boss pedals we're not that good then. And you purchased them
>when you could not afford a MRX or Elect-Harmonix pedal unit.

Actually, ISTR that E-H had a good amount of stuff that was
cheaper than some of the Boss units "back in the day". The
bigger E-H goodies like the Deluxe Memory Man - yeah those were
kinda pricey. The Boss stuff right outta the box sounded
CLEANER, though... the Electro-Harmonix Noise Gate was the only
noise gate ever made th

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89856 is a reply to message #89831] Sat, 15 September 2007 06:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robert is currently offline  Robert   CANADA
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at actually ADDED noise lol.
I think it was the sound quality & lack of having something
that sounded like you were mic'ing a bagful of bees & snakes
and mixing it in with your guitar signal that got Boss
widespread usage. MXR = different type of sound - their stuff
all had a certain not-too-versatile signature kinda sound... IOW
it sounded good, but if you used their Distortion+, it had one
tone to it, no matter where you set it, same with their
phaser; so when Boss & Ibanez, etc. came out with useful, more
versatile AND affordable good-sounding EFX, they took off.


>This whole boutique/vintage market BS that's being perpetrated on the pro-audio
>world is just that BS. The fact that some of us buy this stuff and Feel
like
>a king when we make such ridiculous purchases. 5K-7K for a Mic that sound
>wise can be had today for around $500.00 bucks.

I'm with ya there - which is why I own what I own & don't have
even a single veentagee' mic (although i don't know about your
choice of the $500 price point as a reference).

>I think this whole boutique /Vinatge market push being pushed
>by

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89859 is a reply to message #89831] Sat, 15 September 2007 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kateeba is currently offline  Kateeba   
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the sound, it's just
that if you're a big-name producer/mixerguy & you mix
exclusivly ITB, then some hack second engineer can simply copy
all your channel settings & "learn" how to mix just like you
do... and then if he's successful at it, he can then go around &
undercut you & get the same results. The real chance of this
individual actually being able to replicate someone's style
simply by doing this = pretty slim, indeed. The fear of this
happening = pretty significant, I betcha.
TotalRecall may capture every knob position on your SSL, but it
doesn't know squat about what outboard gear you used & how it
was set, and that's a big part of the sound of a mix,
but "Copy all Channel Settings" on a completely ITB mix sure
does!


>Let's take soudn of recording..Most of the pro-audio market is
>being held hostage by this old guard and these guys live in a
>1960-70's sound quality mind-set. Real innovation and
>technology has been held hostage by companies trying to
>accomodate this audience.

I agree &

Louis Guarino Jr.
www.enchantedvibrations.net

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89862 is a reply to message #89831] Sat, 15 September 2007 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nil is currently offline  Nil
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of the current of modern digital recording, like greater
resolution, better clarity, SNR's so high that they don't even
matter anymore.... and ADD A BUNCH OF NOISY SHIT TO IT!"
He advocates adding a little bit of distortion to every track...
I mean, C'mon! Why do we have 24-bit convertors, then? We
should just seek out some old 12-bit ones! :D

NeilOnly thing I know about the Digimax is that a friend of mine
had one of the older ones & he complained about lack of
headroom. Don't know if that's been addressed in the newer
units.

But Dave, check out the MOTU 8Pre, too... I picked up one of
those awhile back - mainly for toms - and it sounds pretty dang
clean to me.

Neil


EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:
>Hey,
>
>DigiMAX 96K... any opinions on this unit (not the LT or FS)? Looking
>for 24 channels of "reasonable" pre for location recording.
>
>Thanks,
>
>David.Starting from Tyrone, on the far left, an

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89865 is a reply to message #89844] Sat, 15 September 2007 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, I use Paris daily…from sun
>>>up
>>>>till sun down I chimed. I figured I wouldn’t be by myself on that one,
>>but
>>>>I’m more than cool with that. It still works, sounds great and I truly
>>enjoy
>>>>using it, not to mention the fact that it in no way hinders the artistic
>>>>process!
>>>>
>>>>Looking forward to doing it again someday!
>>>>
>>>>Tyrone
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I see we were writing at the same time.

Thanks Paul.

Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>Starting from Tyrone, on the far left, and moving clockwise around the
>table:
>
>Tyrone, Kerry Haps, Brian Porick, Chris Ludwig, Ron Baylin, Me, and
>Gene Lennon.
>
>Note, Kerry and Brian come from Wheaton College. Ron is the guitar
>player in my band and, while not a Paris user, is an admirer, after
>hearing some of the mixes I did of our work and watching me track and
>edit. Not that I am that good - he's just easy to impress!
>
>Noticibly out of the shot was one big, crunchy cockaroach.
>
>So, now we have had Italian, seafood, and Spanish. What are we up for
>in 2009? See you then!
>
>-

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89868 is a reply to message #89841] Sat, 15 September 2007 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dc[3] is currently offline  dc[3]
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/> "Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote in message news:4714a8b7$1@linux...
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've been hard at work (as usual) cooking up more PARIS goodies for 'yall,
> and I think I've got a good one this time.
>
> The PARIS DeEsser sounds awesome, and it's easy to use, too.
>
> Thanks so much to everyone who

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89893 is a reply to message #89839] Sun, 16 September 2007 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   FRANCE
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:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Dedric, I think OSX Lepoard is a pretty good version of Unix imho.
>>>>> Even,with
>>>>> Panther, with the right hardware, this seems to be the best for Pro
Audio
>>>>> apps. Then, when when you factor in the fact that this same Box (Mac)
>>> can
>>>>> run Win Xp-pro and run it really well. As I have witnessed Cuabse SX
running
>>>>> on the Windows partion. It was flying!! ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not giving up on Windows, but it seems that Apple is really making
>>> a
>>>>> really good case for the go-to Multi-media workstaion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, the rumor for the apple x-server is that it use the upcomming
AMD
>>> quad
>>>>> core. Ohh weee!!! With OSX-Lepoard. that will pack a good punch.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/20/07 1:14 PM, in article 471a53b0$1@linux, "LaMont"
>>>>>> <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> As for Steinberg, i won;t count them out. But, many of us are getting
>>>>> a little
>>>>>>> cranky. The synergy with Yamaha has not produced the kind of products
>>>>> we
>>>>>> N4 is out and it's pretty sweet - it's faster and snappier - some
plugin
>>>>>> compatibility issues to sort out (W5 no longer works for one), but
>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>> running well here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DJ -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The multicore issue is top on the list to be solved probably i

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Re: O.T. If you write it, they will come? [message #89894 is a reply to message #89831] Sun, 16 September 2007 02:58 Go to previous message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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n the
next
>>>>>> rev, along with support for dual mono files on stereo tracks (drag
and
>>>>>> drop). They didn't have time to completely fix the multicore problem
>>> with
>>>>>> N4.1 so it was put back - I'm hoping we'll see it in a maintenance
release
>>>>>> fairly soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go with whatever works for you though. I won't post Nuendo 4.1 features
>>>>>> since this is a Logic thread. ;-) (If you or anyone else is interested
>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> post something next week.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Btw - I hear you on Vista - hate it. If Apple released OSX a couple
>>> of
>>>>>> months ago, they could have made a big stake in the OS market. Now
I'm
>>>>>> thinking Linux could finally make push into the pro music/audio/video
>>>>>> market.... just a hunch (or hope maybe)

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