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e there are black so this would be =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>flourishing nests of fanatical =
morons like=20
<BR>> this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the =
fire, I'm=20
with you, but I <BR>> hope you don't think what we've been =
doing in=20
Iraq for the last four years <BR>> has done anything but fan =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>there are lots of flourishing =
nests of=20
fanatical morons Sarah.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> Some alternative =
quotations:<BR>>=20
<BR>> "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up =
the=20
war-cry, and <BR>> shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man =
who=20
ventures to open his mouth; <BR>> and presently such mouths =
will cease=20
to open. Next the statesmen will invent <BR>> cheap lies, =
putting the=20
blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every <BR>> man =
will be=20
glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently =
<BR>>=20
study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and =
thus he=20
will <BR>> by and by convince himself that the war is just, and =
will=20
thank God for the <BR>> better sleep he enjoys after this =
process of=20
grotesque self-deception." - <BR>> Mark Twain, from The =
Mysterious=20
Stranger</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "Get your =
facts first,=20
and then you can distort them as much as you please".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "In the =
councils of=20
government, we must guard against the acquisition of <BR>> =
unwarranted=20
influence, whether sought or unsought, by the <BR>> =
military-industrial=20
complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of <BR>> =
misplaced power=20
exists and will persist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mark Twain also said "I have been =
throught=20
some terrible things in my life, some of which actually=20
happened"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> We must never =
let the=20
weight of this combination endanger our liberties or <BR>> =
democratic=20
processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and =
<BR>>=20
knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge=20
industrial <BR>> and military machinery of defense with our =
peaceful=20
methods and goals, so <BR>> that security and liberty may =
prosper=20
together." - Dwight D. Eisenhower, <BR>> 19
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when =
people who are=20
liberal quote Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy =
the Contra=20
Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in the =
inner=20
cities? Ollie North one of your heroes? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> <BR>> "I do not =
agree that the=20
dog in a manger has the final right to the manger <BR>> even =
though he=20
may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that =
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right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been =
done to=20
the <BR>> Red Indians of America or the black people of =
Australia. I do=20
not admit that <BR>> a wrong has been done to these people by =
the fact=20
that a stronger race, a <BR>> higher-grade race has come in and =
taken=20
their place." - Winston Churchill <BR>> (who apparently never =
said that=20
thing about liberal/conservative heart/brain <BR>> </FONT><A=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll bet if we just got a few =
lawyers=20
involved, they could find a way to challenge the title to this =
land, then=20
we could pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas=20
and they would kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat =
and set=20
up a casino.<BR> <BR>> "Religion poisons everything." -=20
Christopher Hitchens</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"I read in the newspapers they =
are going to=20
have 30 minutes of intellectual stuff on television every Monday =
from 7.30=20
to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if they =
started=20
at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #83897 is a reply to message #83887] |
Mon, 30 April 2007 20:03 |
Deej [4]
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------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C799BD.3CE90000--Are you saying you're a hippie? You never struck me as a hippie. :) Nice
little town, though. The former Captain Beefheart guitar player lives
there, Zoot Horn Rollo AKA Bill Harkleroad, which in itself makes the place
cool.
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464deeac@linux...
> I'm thinking about moving to Eugene, just because I'm sure I'd fit in
> there.
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> ;oD
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> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:464dae13@linux...
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>> Neo-Americana-Semipsychedelic-Quirk-Rock?
>>
>> Can't be kids music - I heard the "S-H" word, as my ten year old would
>> say...
>> Although that'd only be PG nowadays.
>>
>> I kinda like the " Neo-psychedelic hard jazzy new age folk rock show
>> tunes"
>> idea.
>> My father's wife just bought a house in Portland. In spite of the fact
>> that
>> she mostly can't stand us she was so happy about it that she said "You'll
>> have to come visit sometime". If a visit actually materializes and you
>> get
>> to playing live I'd love to come hear you!
>>
>> Gantt
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>That's a really good question, Gantt, and I'm open to suggestions. I
>>>usually answer one of three ways:
>>>
>>>1. Uh . . . rock, I guess?
>>>
>>>2. Neo-psychedelic hard jazzy new age folk rock show tunes
>>>
>>>3. I have no idea.
>>>
>>>I could say "eclectic," but that's about as helpful as "I have no idea."
>>>
>>>Maybe it's children's music. My doctor, my neice, and my co-producer all
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>>>have grade schoolers who are fans. :)
>>>
>>>S
>>>
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:464c549c$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> When you go to book the band and they ask, "What kind of music do you?"
>>
>>>> what
>>>> will you say?
>>>>
>>>> I found it to be totally uncategorizeable... I heard echos of The
>>>> Beatles,
>>>> Led Zeppelin, Enya, arrangements occasionally reminiscent of Steely
>>>> Dan,
>>>> New Orleans jazz, old country blues. Whew!
>>>>
>>>> Gantt
>>>>
>>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>>>Well, thank you Gantt. We did, of course, expect you to love it, since
>>>> we
>>>>>do. We expect everyone to love it. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>How long? Well, it actually represents a few years of "spare time"
>>>>>interrupted by floods, remodellings, and deaths in families, including
>> the
>>>>
>>>>>very unfortunate and far too young death of our violinist. When we
>>>>>finished
>>>>
>>>>>the CD, however, I took the session logs and figured out how much time
>> we
>>>>
>>>>>actually spent in the studio. I calculated that it was about 7 months
>>
>>>>>worth
>>>>
>>>>>of work spread out over about 5 years. We were busy . . . I was in
>>>>>nursing
>>>>
>>>>>school, the other Sarah was touring the world playing flute, and Rich
>> and
>>>>
>>>>>Ryan were in other bands and teaching.
>>>>>
>>>>>We're cruising on #2, though. Already have about half the demos done.
>>>> I
>>>>>expect the new CD out this fall, tentatively titled "Angel Food."
>>>>>
>>>>>We're in Portland OR. And . . . at the urging of my fellow bandmates,
>> I
>>>>
>>>>>have agreed to start rehearsals for some live gigs. I don't know about
>>>> "the
>>>>>road," but we'll definitely do some "shows" here.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, "Chopsticks For Enya." I think Enya should hear that. She might
>>
>>>>>like
>>>>
>>>>>it. It's a loving parody. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you again, Gantt
>>>>>
>>>>>Sarah
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>Why not just release every single detail in a very public way and save the
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John,
I know huh?
This stuff is no secret. He has fine tuned what he believes
is a great little add on s
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Mon, 30 April 2007 20:30 |
Neil
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mals. However, I'd like to get
>>> this drive working since it is my general multimedia setup.
>>>
>>> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
>>>
>>> -Rohde
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Here's what I think history will tell us: this was the most corrupt =
and destructive administration in US history, and the damage they did =
took years to recover from. (I'm optimistic)
Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Naaaa! :)
S
I think that theis perfectly describes the Clinton administration.
go figure......
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------=_NextPart_000_026E_01C799F6.4E55AA30--"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Yes, clearly the
>world so much a better place now than 6 years ago.
?I know I feel safer.
I edited out the hip-blasphemy bits and the issues that have been
discussed 3000 times and everyone knows the answers to, and we
end up with this:
You assume:
that we could have had a safer world when it could be much worse now
than it is
that this particular struggle can be completed in 6 years.
that our enemies are amenable to any other policy than surrender
that electing someone with your views would produce greater safety
I think all these assumptions are unsupported by any reasonable view of
the facts at hand.
Here's you., 2 weeks after Tualitin gets hit with a dirty bomb...
http://noburqua.blogspot.com/
DCYep Don, dangerous naivety is an epidemic these days. It leads to
blindered thinking on all sides, which can lead to naive, sometimes
idiotically cocksure choices by whoever happens to be in charge. Leading
to actions that may in fact be counterproductive to the actual goals
most everyone SAYS they believe in.
But then, when a situation predictably deteriorates, the easy
rationalization is that IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. Well sure, but it
could also have been much, much better.
And this shaky rationalization, this flawed logic, this possible
delusion is sometimes used to justify continued marching, blindly, in a
wrong direction.
"Hey, let's feel good about the continued screwups because IT COULD HAVE
BEEN WORSE."
Followed by the completely irrational "In fact, we'd better KEEP
SCREWING IT UP UNTIL AT LAST WE SUCCEED!"
Go team! Over the cliff.
"Uh, OK, sure we're now falling toward the jagged rocks below, but IT
COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE!" :^)
There's probably a diagnosis for this type of rationalized psychotic
malfeasance.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
DC wrote:
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, clearly the
>> world so much a better place now than 6 years ago.
> ?I know I feel safer.
>
> I edited out the hip-blasphemy bits and the issues that have been
> discussed 3000 times and everyone knows the answers to, and we
> end up with this:
>
> You assume:
>
> that we could have had a safer world when it could be much worse now
> than it is
>
> that this particular struggle can be completed in 6 years.
>
> that our enemies are amenable to any other policy than surrender
>
> that electing someone with your views would produce greater safety
>
>
> I think all these assumptions are unsupported by any reasonable view of
> the facts at hand.
>
>
> Here's you., 2 weeks after Tualitin gets hit with a dirty bomb...
>
> http://noburqua.blogspot.com/
>
> DC
Sarah wrote:
> Rich, Deej, holy crap dudes. The policies of this administration? Are
> you seriously defending this administration? Help me! Yes, clearly the
> world so much a better place now than 6 years ago. I know I feel safer.
> Jeezus, come on!
>
> Listen, I despise fundamentalism of any stripe, and I particularly
> despise these Islamic fundies who think they have a divine right to kill
> in the name of Allah . . . the divine right to kill people who believe
> in the same f***ing god they do! The idiots TOOK their god from the
> Christians/Jews, for God's sake. :) As far as I'm concerned these
> lunatics have a divine right to DIE, and that's it. And that goes
> for anyone else who reasons that they should kill in the name of
> God, Grrrr . . . where's my Winchester . . .
>
> However . . . BIG however . . . this is not what we're doing in Iraq,
> it's never been what we're doing in Iraq, and it's never been the reason
> we went there in the first place. And I can't believe anyone still
> believes the calculated bullshit that got us there.
>
> Here's what I think history will tell us: this was the most corrupt and
> destructive administration in US history, and the damage they did took
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Mon, 30 April 2007 20:48 |
Aaron Allen
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laughtered by those that they are tacitly assisting in
> defeating the policies of this administration.
>
> go figure.
>
> ;o}
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
> <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
> news:464dc9f4@linux...
> Deej, Interesting article by Fred Halliday, well written. It
> astounds me at how the left continues to justify and make
> excuses for Islamic extremist violence and fascism while at the
> same time condemn those democratic and freedom loving people,
> who reserve the right to defend themselves against such attacks.
>
> Rich
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com
> <http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>> wrote in message
> news:464dc442@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com
> <mailto:sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>> wrote in message
> news:464da14d@linux...
> > Surely this doesn't surprise you . . . ? Perhaps if we'd
> been treating
> > terrorism as the international criminal problem that it's
> always been
> > instead of as a pretense for war,
>
> .........now if they would just build an asprin factory
> there, we could attack it with a cruise missle. Looks like
> most of the people there are black so this would be PC.
>
> flourishing nests of fanatical morons like
> > this would be nipped in the bud. Hey, fight the fire,
> I'm with you, but I
> > hope you don't think what we've been doing in Iraq for
> the last four years
> > has done anything but fan the flames.
> >
> there are lots of flourishing nests of fanatical morons
Sarah.
>
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/12/135069_comment.p hp
>
>
> > Some alternative quotations:
> >
> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take up
> the war-cry, and
> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures
> to open his mouth;
> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
> statesmen will invent
> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
> attacked, and every
> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities,
> and will diligently
> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of
> them; and thus he will
> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
> thank God for the
> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
> self-deception." -
> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>
> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you can
> distort them as much as you please".
>
> >
> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against the
> acquisition of
> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the
> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the
> disastrous rise of
> > misplaced power exists and will persist.
>
> Mark Twain also said "I have been throught some terrible
> things in my life, some of which actually happened"
>
> >
> > We must never let the weight of this combination endanger
> our liberties or
> > democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.
> Only an alert and
> > knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of
> the huge industrial
> > and military machinery of defense with our peaceful
> methods and goals, so
> > that security and liberty may prosper together." - Dwight
> D. Eisenhower,
> > 1961
>
> Deej also said "An alert and knowledgable citizenry depends
> upon an alert and knowldegable CIA"
>
> > "...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are
> great numbers of
> > our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien
> invasion or are those
> > illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't
> do? One thing is
> > certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should
> be allowed if it
> > results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of
> harvesters." - Ronald
> > Reagan
>
> I agree with this. I also think I should not have to produce
> any identification, pay taxes and the ER here should be my
> own personal health insurance, which I don't have to pay.
> Paying vehicle insurance is such a pain in the ass, I
> shouldn't have to do hqat either. I also liked living in
> Mexico quite a bit. Problem is, I can't got there and live.
> If I go down there without any papers, they will throw me in
> jail. If I have a wreck down there without insurance, they
> will throw me in
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Mon, 30 April 2007 21:55 |
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jail. I know these things for a fact.
> Pisses me off.
>
> >
> > "You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a
> Frenchman; you can go
> > to live in Germany, you cannot become a German- or a
> Turk, or a Greek, or
> > whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can
> come to live in
> > America and become an American." - more Ronald Reagan
>
> I think it's sooooo cool when people who are liberal quote
> Reagan. Are you a Reagan fan Sarah? Did you enjoy the Contra
> Show? How about the way we paid for it by selling cocaine in
> the inner cities? Ollie North one of your heroes?
>
> >
> > "I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final
> right to the manger
> > even though he may have lain there for a very long time.
> I do not admit that
> > right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong
> has been done to the
> > Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia.
> I do not admit that
> > a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a
> stronger race, a
> > higher-grade race has come in and taken their place." -
> Winston Churchill
> > (who apparently never said that thing about
> liberal/conservative heart/brain
> >
>
http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12 )
>
> I'll bet if we just got a few lawyers involved, they could
> find a way to challenge the title to this land, then we
> could pass a law that handed Islamberg over to the Senecas
> and they would kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat
> and set up a casino.
>
> > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
>
> "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes
> of intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30
> to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America if
> they started at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
> >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel
> Johnson
>
> “When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes
> a disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
> >
> > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife
> and kids. Eat
> > them!" - Homer Simpson
>
>
> >
> > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest
> sign from Simpsons
> > episode
>
> "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
>
> >
> > Courage,
> > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain
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Tue, 01 May 2007 07:16 |
TCB
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adding the second EDS card - double woohoo!
>
> BTW, it was great to meet several of you guys, even if for the short hour.
> Oh yeah, and the hot Thai was quite good and edible - still a step below
> Siamese Plate's Jungle Curry in heat.
>
> -Rohde
>
> Rohde Wakefield wrote:
>> Yeah, actually all the IRQ's look OK. Graphics card is GeForce 6600GT in
>> a nForce3-based motherboard. No ATI chips in sight.
>>
>> I think I found the answer. I had installed the drivers for the UAD-1
>> card, but I had pulled out the card prior in order to do some debugging
>> and never put it back in.
>>
>> When I uninstalled these drivers, everything seemed a bit happier.
>>
>> Just discovered this a couple of minutes ago, and Paris is no longer
>> sucking the CPU dry of cycles.
>>
>> Thanks Dimitrios and DJ.
>>
>> -Rohde
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> Rhode,
>>>
>>> This sounds like an IRQ trainwreck. EDS card sharing with a graphics
>>> card is bad, even if Windows says there is no problem. Windows
>>> lies........XP lies especially.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>> "Rohde Wakefield" <rohdeww@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:464db606$1@linux...
>>>> Hey all. I thought I remembered a post on this, but my searches are
>>>> coming up short.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone seen the situation where Paris will _always_ be using 90%+
>>>> of the CPU and machine is just a dog, even when not playing?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if it was something I installed earlier this year. I
>>>> haven't been able to use Paris the last couple of times I've needed it
>>>> so Garage Band and Vegas had to do in the pinch.
>>>>
>>>> I think I may have an extra 20GB drive sitting around. I may just
>>>> reinstall a new WinXP and Paris minimals. However, I'd like to get this
>>>> drive working since it is my general multimedia setup.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> -Rohde
>>>
>>>I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard that
ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
Thanks,
DeejDeej, lets put it this way. I have recovered every piece of data off
several 80gb drives that were fully formatted, supposedly erased forever.
There is a prog or two out there which are DOD approved for wiping a drive.
I think I have one here. Lemme see if i can find it.
WMW
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f3a13$1@linux...
> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard that
> ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>How about eraser?
http://www.heidi.ie/eraser/Thanks Mark,
Appreciated. It's either an effective wipe or selling the unit without a
system drive.
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"W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
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> Deej, lets put it this way. I have recovered every piece of data off
> several 80gb drives that were fully formatted, supposedly erased forever.
> There is a prog or two out there which are DOD approved for wiping a
> drive. I think I have one here. Lemme see if i can find it.
>
> WMW
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f3a13$1@linux...
>> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
>> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
>> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
>> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard
>> that ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
>> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
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>Hi,
I am surprised that my last attempts to solve the more adat cards under XP
thing did not quite interested anyone !!
I thought that this was a great finding and would lead with some help from
my friends to solve the adat mystery under XP !
Most of you say you cannot have more than one adat catd per mec, DJ achieved
the most two adat cards only on one mec on his eds multicard and mec system.
Now I managed to have two adat cards on two of the three mecs.
OK if all these are boring then I might loose my interest too and to rphrase
I might loose my interest in posting and trying to share experience and keep
whatever I do to myself.
Do I sound pissed off ?
Not quite but I am asking again is anyone interested ?
Regards,
DimitriosOK,
and I someone replies with yes I ma interested I would like some tryouts
from you too to sahre if this can be achieved onn your systems to finally
find out what is causing this adat mystery under XP.
I say again that I believe that only the last mec in chain needs tio have
only one adat card and all other mecs can have at least two !.
If I had more adat cards I could try to load them all so you who might have
more adat cards could try that...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I am surprised that my last attempts to solve the more adat cards under
XP
>thing did not quite interested anyone !!
>I thought that this was a great finding and would lead with some help from
>my friends to solve the adat mystery under XP !
>Most of you say you cannot have more than one adat catd per mec, DJ achieved
>the most two adat cards only on one mec on his eds multicard and mec system.
>Now I managed to have two adat cards on two of the three mecs.
>OK if all these are boring then I might loose my interest too and to rphrase
>I might loose my interest in posting and trying to share experience and
keep
>whatever I do to myself.
>Do I sound pissed off ?
>Not quite but I am asking again is anyone interested ?
>Regards,
>DimitriosDeej, ping me with your non-argh email account...
WMW m a r k a t a v i d r e k o r d i n g d o t c o m C instead of K
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f485b$1@linux...
> Thanks Mark,
>
> Appreciated. It's either an effective wipe or selling the unit without a
> system drive.
>
> Deej
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <xpam_mark@avidrecording> wrote in message
> news:464f461b$1@linux...
>> Deej, lets put it this way. I have recovered every piece of data off
>> several 80gb drives that were fully formatted, supposedly erased forever.
>> There is a prog or two out there which are DOD approved for wiping a
>> drive. I think I have one here. Lemme see if i can find it.
>>
>> WMW
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:464f3a13$1@linux...
>>> I've got an old Dell laptop here that I used for a few years. It's had a
>>> number of things on the HD over time, including some work files with
>>> confidential info (noting that could ever be used by anyone really, but
>>> needs to be wipedd nonetheless. Will formatting do this? I have heard
>>> that ther4e are some *wipe* proggies that will basically render any data
>>> unrecoverable short of the stuff that NSA uses.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Dimitrios,
I think a part of the problem is that a lot of the folks who still hang here
no longer use Paris on a regular basis. I still do, but I'm a Mac guy, so
your XP experiments aren't relevent for me. And frankly, I'm seriously looking
around to see what my next DAW is going to be.
Gantt
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I am surprised that my last attempts to solve the more adat cards under
XP
>thing did not quite interested anyone !!
>I thought that this was a great finding and would lead with some help from
>my friends to solve the adat mystery under XP !
>Most of you say you cannot have more than one adat catd per mec, DJ achieved
>the most two adat cards only on one mec on his eds multicard and mec system.
>Now I managed to have two adat cards on two of the three mecs.
>OK if all these are boring then I might loose my interest too and to rphrase
>I might loose my interest in posting and trying to share experience and
keep
>whatever I do to myself.
>Do I sound pissed off ?
>Not quite but I am asking again is anyone interested ?
>Regards,
>DimitriosThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Hi Dimitrios,
I am hot on this one. At this time I only have two MECs and the
need for two ADATs. I was unable to get two ADATs working in MEC A
with none in MEC E and vise versa. I don't need a third ADAT card at =
this
time though it might be advantageous to have these two in one MEC D.
Do you think that will be possible if the new 442 is attached on card 5 =
as 442 E?
I'll give that a try. =20
I am interested in all things Paris. That's all I do these days beside =
gig.
Finishing up a jazz album today and another rock album this week =
hopefully. =20
I'll be ready to Dimtriosize my system some more after that.
The new Mackie Mixer Mixer is in and running by your design. That's a =
great
one! My plan will implement fours submixes with two mono and one stereo =
send
across them all with that simple install. Snakes weren't fun to solder =
but that's
over. I am waiting for five Mogami clock cables later this week also.
Lots of fun and all Paris!
Tom
PS I got a Creamware card because of your recommendation also. =20
This is getting scary!
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:464f4bdc$1@linux...
OK,
and I someone replies with yes I ma interested I would like some =
tryouts
from you too to sahre if this can be ach
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ieved onn your systems to =
finally
find out what is causing this adat mystery under XP.
I say again that I believe that only the last mec in chain needs tio =
have
only one adat card and all other mecs can have at least two !.
If I had more adat cards I could try to load them all so you who might =
have
more adat cards could try that...
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>I am surprised that my last attempts to solve the more adat cards =
under
XP
>thing did not quite interested anyone !!
>I thought that this was a great finding and would lead with some help =
from
>my friends to solve the adat mystery under XP !
>Most of you say you cannot have more than one adat catd per mec, DJ =
achieved
>the most two adat cards only on one mec on his eds multicard and mec =
system.
>Now I managed to have two adat cards on two of the three mecs.
>OK if all these are boring then I might loose my interest too and to =
rphrase
>I might loose my interest in posting and trying to share experience =
and
keep
>whatever I do to myself.
>Do I sound pissed off ?
>Not quite but I am asking again is anyone interested ?
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>time though it might be advantageous to =
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Paris. That's=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Finishing up a jazz album today and =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The new Mackie Mixer Mixer is in and =
running by=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>one! My plan will implement =
fours=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>across them all with that simple =
install. =20
Snakes weren't fun to solder but that's</FONT></DIV>
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cables later this week also.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lots of fun and all Paris!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS I got a Creamware card because of =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> This is =
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------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C79A86.38DC5F10--Hmm . . . well, I'm not assuming any of those things that you assume I'm
assuming. You, however, may be assuming that "someone with my views" would
be "soft" on terrorism, an assumption most likely based on an erroneous
"talking points" stereotype of "liberals."
Someone with my views would attack the right people, after making damned
sure they were the right people. Someone with my views would not use the
horror of 9/11 as the "Pearl Harbor" we needed to justify a naive and just
plain disgusting plan to use military force to Americanize the Middle East.
Blah blah, yak yak. People are gonna believe what suits 'em. I'm tired of
talking about it.
(applause)
Thank you, thank you.
S
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:464f2365$1@linux...
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> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, clearly the
>>world so much a better place now than 6 years ago.
> ?I know I feel safer.
>
> I edited out the hip-blasphemy bits and the issues that have been
> discussed 3000 times and everyone knows the answers to, and we
> end up with this:
>
> You assume:
>
> that we could have had a safer world when it could be much worse now
> than it is
>
> that this particular struggle can be completed in 6 years.
>
> that our enemies are amenable to any other policy than surrender
>
> that electing someone with your views would produce greater safety
>
>
> I think all these assumptions are unsupported by any reasonable view of
> the facts at hand.
>
>
> Here's you., 2 weeks after Tualitin gets hit with a dirty bomb...
>
> http://noburqua.blogspot.com/
>
> DCTea?! Blechh . . . I'm heading for the Black Butte Porter.
"When?" "When" my record takes off? Not "if"? Gosh, thanks. :)
S
"DC" <dc@spammersinboringore.com> wrote in message news:464f5683$1@linux...
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>>"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>
> And while you're at it GO DRINK YER DANG TEA!!!
>
> heh heh
>
> Have a great weekend Sarah, and do come play down here when
> your record takes off!
>
> DC
>if i had adat cards i'm sure that i would be but i don't...sorry.
On 20 May 2007 05:07:57 +1000, "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
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>Hi,
>I am surprised that my last attempts to solve the more adat cards under XP
>thing did not quite interested anyone !!
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> > and they would kick their asses out of there in a heartbeat
> > and set up a casino.
> >
> > > "Religion poisons everything." - Christopher Hitchens
> >
> > "I read in the newspapers they are going to have 30 minutes
> > of intellectual stuff on television every Monday from 7.30
> > to 8.00 to educate America. They couldn't educate America
if
> > they started at 6:30".-Groucho Marx
> > >>Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" - Samuel
> > Johnson
> >
> > “When we have lost everything, including hope, life becomes
> > a disgrace, and death a duty."-W.C. Fields
> > >
> > > "Oh, my God! Space aliens! Don't eat me! I have a wife
> > and kids. Eat
> > > them!" - Homer Simpson
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Get Eurass Back to Eurasia" - anti-immigrant protest
> > sign from Simpsons
> > > episode
> >
> > "We don't have a permit. Run! "-Edward D. Wood, Jr.
> >
> > >
> > > Courage,
> > > Sarah ( . . . if I only had a brain . . . )
> >
> > "I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge
> > me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and
> > lead him to a quiet place and kill him"-Mark Twain.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1 12
> > > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net
> > <mailto:richard.lamanna@verizon.net>> wrote in message
> > > news:464ce932@linux...
> > >> You can thank me for lighting the fire, you can all fan
> > the flames. Why
> > >> the
> > >> heck not welcome some more illegals.
> > >>
> > >>
>http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm
> > >>
> > >> "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell
> > Phillips
> > >>
> > >> "No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless
> > he be vigilant in
> > >> its
> > >> preservation." -- General Douglas MacArthur
> > >>
> > >> "FREEDOM IS NOT FOR THE TIMID." -- posted as an
> > announcement outside a
> > >> Unitarian Church in Texas on Sept. 17, 2001
> > >>
> > >> "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce
> > man, and brave, and
> > >> hated
> > >> and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join
> > him, for then it
> > >> costs
> > >> nothing
> > >> to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
> > >>
> > >> "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to
> > the weak or the
> > >> timid."
> > >> -- Dwight D. Eisenhower, First Inaugural Address, Jan.
> > 20, 1953
> > >>
> > >> "The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted. It
> > belongs to the
> > >> brave."
> > >> -- Ronald Reagan
> > >>
> > >> "The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to
> > the vigilant, the
> > >> active,
> > >> the brave." -- Patrick Henry
> > >>
> > >> "The land of the free will cease to be when it's no
> > longer the home of
> > >> the brave."-- Rick Gaber
> > >>
> > >> "Any 20 year-old who isn't a liberal doesn't have a
>heart,
> > >> and any 40 year-old who isn't a conservative doesn't
> > have a brain." --
> > >> Winston Churchill
> > >>
> > >> Guidance,
> > >>
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we are drowning in wishful naivety these days. On that much
Don and I probably agree. If you think otherwise, prove your case.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
ulfiyya wrote:
> hi,
> I think that you don't where you talking about
> learn first the history before any comments!
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Yep Don, dangerous naivety is an epidemic these days. It leads to
>> blindered thinking on all sides, which can lead to naive, sometimes
>> idiotically cocksure choices by whoever happens to be in charge. Leading
>
>> to actions that may in fact be counterproductive to the actual goals
>> most everyone SAYS they believe in.
>>
>> But then, when a situation predictably deteriorates, the easy
>> rationalization is that IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE. Well sure, but it
>> could also have been much, much better.
>>
>> And this shaky rationalization, this flawed logic, this possible
>> delusion is sometimes used to justify continued marching, blindly, in a
>
>> wrong direction.
>>
>> "Hey, let's feel good about the continued screwups because IT COULD HAVE
>
>> BEEN WORSE."
>>
>> Followed by the completely irrational "In fact, we'd better KEEP
>> SCREWING IT UP UNTIL AT LAST WE SUCCEED!"
>>
>> Go team! Over the cliff.
>>
>> "Uh, OK, sure we're now falling toward the jagged rocks below, but IT
>> COULD HAVE BEEN WORSE!" :^)
>>
>> There's probably a diagnosis for this type of rationalized psychotic
>> malfeasance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> DC wrote:
>>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, clearly the
>>>> world so much a better place now than 6 years ago.
>>> ?I know I feel safer.
>>>
>>
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Tue, 01 May 2007 22:56 |
Martin Harrington
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>>>
>>> > Some alternative quotations:
>>> >
>>> > "And now the whole nation--pulpit and all-- will take
> up
>>> the war-cry, and
>>> > shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures
>>> to open his mouth;
>>> > and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the
>>> statesmen will invent
>>> > cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is
>>> attacked, and every
>>> > man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities,
>>> and will diligently
>>> > study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of
>>> them; and thus he will
>>> > by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will
>>> thank God for the
>>> > better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque
>>> self-deception." -
>>> > Mark Twain, from The Mysterious Stranger
>>>
>>> Mark Twain also said "Get your facts first, and then you
> can
>>> distort them as much as you please".
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "In the councils of government, we must guard against
> the
>>> acquisition of
>>> > unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by
> the
>>> > military-industrial complex. The potential for the
>>> disastrous rise of
>>> > misplaced powe
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| Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #84015 is a reply to message #83941] |
Thu, 03 May 2007 18:44 |
Martin Harrington
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She is also saying that the prisoners
> in Guantanamo are innocent. These people are terrorist and killed Americans.
> One stupid rant deserved another. I'm just sick of hearing all the anti
> American stuff.
>
> The Bush administration and their cronies have terribly mismanaged this war,
> to a point that I think it is criminal. However, I'm not going to jump on
> the liberal bandwagon with all of their twisting of the truth and their lies.
> I don't blame the troops or the US then there is collateral damage. As
> an American, I find her rant offensive.
>
>
> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>> Hi James,
>>
>> Now that you are winding down, re-visiting, and re-casting your own words,
>> take a moment to calm down and consider what Sarah found objectionable in
>> your post. It's the human thing to do.
>>
>> Chuck
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I said your liberal thinking was stupid, but it's Ok, take it anyway you
>> want
>>> to. I guess radical muslins are not hateful, violent people? It's only
>>> the US that is wrong. right? Will we deserve it when the take out one
> of
>>> our cities? If it is your city they pick will it be Ok?
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| Re: The two worst things to happen to music in the computer age [message #84021 is a reply to message #84015] |
Fri, 04 May 2007 04:11 |
chuck duffy
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o find an income replacement. Look what's going on in DXB
(Dubai). This is crazy and ridiculous, but think about it - why did they
build the worlds largest indoor ski slope? They are building an air traffic
hub, where the worlds elite can stop and ski, shop and relax between connecting
flights. What else are they gonna sell, the raw material for glass?
Chuck
"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>
>I hope you are wrong, but I cannot swear that you are...
>
>What gives me some hope is that there is a pretty significant
>number of Iraqis who don't want to be governed by Mullahs,
>or Baathists.
>
>But our biggest mistake of the last 50 years was not seeing
>the geopolitical significance of our energy policies...
>No doubt about it.
>
>Now name me a candidate, of either party who is standing up
>and promising to drill everywhere and build more refineries
>while at the same time developing alternatives... Name one who
>is taking this seriously!
>
>meet the new boss...
>
>DC
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Don,
>>
>>I don't pretend to know what will happen, but I stick with the following
>>idea, one that I came to circa 1992. There will be no fundamental change
>>in the arab world until the last drop of oil is extracted from the desert.
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>This whole thing boils down to one question:
>>>
>>>Do the Iraqi's want democracy? Do they know what to do with it?
>>>
>>>When we leave will they slide into a theocra
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Fri, 04 May 2007 11:50 |
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target="_blank">dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>This whole thing boils down to one question:
>>
>>Do the Iraqi's want democracy? Do they know what to do with it?
>>
>>When we leave will they slide into a theocracy dominated by
>>mullahs, or will they slide back into a corrupt and brutal Baathism,
>>or will they constitute a robust and free country?
>>
>>Either of the former means we will have failed in a most large
>>an
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