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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79022 is a reply to message #78997] |
Fri, 26 January 2007 08:46   |
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ot fuller and ballsier the harder I
>>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>>run through the Wavelab multiband.
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>>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>>was without an accompianist.
>>
>>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>>
>>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>>
>>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>>live recording.
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>>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
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>>pab
>Well, de-essing would be the obvious thing, but her voice
sounds so good, I'd hate to mess with any of the freqs at ALL,
and you know how sibilance can get worse with
compression/limiting...
....just a thought.
Neil
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Betcha that's the 58.. man, that 3k boost is a killer on those things.
>Multiband limiting or de essing before no limit is probably gonna be the
fix
>there.
>
>AA
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>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OU.com> wrote in message news:45dbdab4$1@linux...
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>> NIIIIIIICE!
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>> Just wondering - can you get rid of a bit of the sibilance if
>> you back off spanking the NoLimit a bit?
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>> Nice sound, nice tune, and nice singing. Five thumbs up! :D
>>
>> Neil
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>> Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>>>Was experimenting with different mixes from the last concert recording
>>>I did.
>>>
>>>Tracked straight from mixer inserts. Vocal mic was a 58 (her own mic
>>>- my preference would have been my AT AE5400, but she had a bit of a
>>>cold and didn't want to get germs on the main mics as she was the
>>>opener for Kasim Sulton).
>>>
>>>All Paris - all EDS inserts. Put NoLimit on her vocal and just
>>>spanked the meter - voice just got fuller and ballsier the harder I
>>>pushed it. Now I know what you guys were talking about. Final mix was
>>>run through the Wavelab multiband.
>>>
>>>Piano was a digital - the one thing you need to remember is that she
>>>called me in a panic on the Tuesday before the gig because the two
>>>guitar players she normally uses both had medical emergencies, and she
>>>was without an accompianist.
>>>
>>>The piano player she finally found had one day to listen to the mp3's
>>>she sent, and 20 minutes before the doors opened to run through the
>>>songs with her. Had never heard them before.
>>>
>>>Damn, it's fun working with real professionals.
>>>
>>>Anyhow, tell me what you think. A few extraneous noises, but it's a
>>>live recording.
>>>
>>>www.ctgonline.org/paul/open_arms.mp3
>>>
>>>pab
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>
>Yeah, when it gets that ugly it's a retake or I back the comp/limit off and
do a fader ride. Still, pretty nice
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79027 is a reply to message #79022] |
Fri, 26 January 2007 08:56 |
Deej [4]
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ing goes
wrong, and it's configured to do backups of the posts. Every few days I turn
it on and it copies the latest posts off the server. This way we only lose
a few days. Depending on the forum and how pro you wanted to be, you could
just leave a second machine running constantly, and your backup would stay
100% up to date. You can also get machines configured so that, should the
primary machine fail, the secondary machine takes over automatically so service
never stops. On the other hand with RAID do popular on motherboards these
days you may get by with just a couple of hdd's mirrored in the same machine.
You'd need to think about backups though.
For 3,000 people a day, at a guess, for a mostly text site with a touch of
graphics, I'd say $2000 would be minimum to get you at least one machine
setup and running doing the job, with maybe 1-2 hours UPS backup.
I'm saying that as my best guess though. Truth is my setup is very minimalist.
It doesn't take much grunt to keep this particular show on the road due to
relatively low readership and an almost exclusively text based content.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Howdy.
>
>I was wondering about user forums and hit counts and hardware and
>electricity. How many users can Kim's setup handle, for instance? You
>measure that sort of thing in "hits", right? What is Kim's setup, anyway?
>How much power does it use per month? How much hardware and power is
>necessary for a site that attracts, say, 3,000 people? 10,000? 50,000?
>
>I was wondering these things because a beloved user forum, "Chowhound",
has
>gone completely to shit since being sold by the founder to CNet. They've
>absolutely wrecked the thing, and many of the old-school Hounds have left
>the building, so to speak. The founder claims adamantly that he couldn't
>afford to keep the site up and running, that it was going to go away
>entirely if he didn't get deep pockets in on the action, but it somehow
>doesn't add up for me. I was wondering if he's telling the truth or lying
to
>hide a greedy streak.
>
>Jimmy
>
>Yes, what Steve said.
Cheers,
Ab
"Steve Helm" <shelm@radford.edu> wrote:
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>David,
>I think you should seriously look into Metric Halo's Moblie I/Os. The Firewire
>interface seemlessly connects with Macbook Pros! I use mine in the studio,
>but it is equally at home on the road.
>
>Both Meric halo's ULN and 2882's have great pres and coverters. It depends
>on how many channels you want to record at once. The ULN has two channels
>and the 2882 has 8. Of course one can connect several together for more
simultaineus
>tracks Many MH users are using them to record exceptionally high quality
>live recordings. Metric Halo MIO Control software also has a sweet recording
>interface so no other DAW is required.
>
>Check out www.mhlabs.com and their excellent user group for more info.
>
>Good Luck!
>Steve
>
>
>"David Evan" <davidevanmusic@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>hey everybody,
>>it's been a while since i've been here. still using paris but about to
>sell
>>everything (i may keep paris so that in ten years when suddenly, everybody's
>>drooling for that great, "vintage paris sound" i'll sell it and retire).
> i
>>have mics, pres, racks, etc. i'm selling it because i'm about to move
out
>>of my home and live a life of touring on the road. so, i need to get a
>>laptop and a mobile recording setup for recording simple demos on the road.
>>i'm keeping one at4050 for vocals, and am planning to get a rode nt4 for
>>stereo micing my ac. guit. any suggestions about programs and firewire
>>micpre interfaces?
>>
>>thanks!
>>-david evan
>>www.myspace.com/davidevanmusic
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>>
>My macbook pro battery melted last week. I mean it physically melted..
I phoned up apple and they said that since I didn't have applecare, and as the MBP batteries
were not part of the battery recall, it wouldn't be covered.
After a few choice "gentle and persuasive" words on my part to help illustrate my feelings toward
that policy, they had a new one at my door in 2 days and took the melted one back.
Cheers,
TC
Jamie K wrote:
>
> And yet they wouldn't replace a faulty hinge on a Tibook. Even with an
> extended warranty.
>
> So, some good, some not.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> James McCloskey wrote:
>> "Mark McDermott" <nospam@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm sure that Mr. Jobs would use his private jet to personally
>>> replace it!
>>> ;)
>>>
>>
>> You've got to admit, Apple went way beyond the call of duty on this one.
>> That was also my experience when I had the extended warranty on my
>> iBook.
>>
>> James
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Wow! That's amazing that Apple would replace the DVD drive for free.
>> The
>>>> damaged was caused by somebody else's defective product. So if my
>>>> MacBook
>>>> was run over by a defective cement truck, would Apple replace it? ; )
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "Mark McDermott" <nospam@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I didn’t know this could happen: Ouch!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=441&tag=nl.e622
>>We all appreciate your efforts, Kim! And thanks for the info.
I feel somewhat supported in my suspicion that the fellow who started
Chowhound sold us down the river to a bunch of corporate hacks so as to
score the big bucks, plus a full time job touring the country and eating.
And now they're trying to squeeze profit out a user group who have largely
vanished and been replaced by a bunch of no-taste fools who argue endlessly
over which is better: Applebee's o
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79028 is a reply to message #78998] |
Fri, 26 January 2007 09:08 |
Deej [4]
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r Chilis?
He could have gotten plenty of money for hardware and power if he had asked
for it nicely. The whole thing stinks. As if anybody will ever make money
from a user-driven gossip/info site anyway...I thought we learned that
lesson several years ago...makes me sick....
Why is money so much more important than everything else? Why must every
little bit of beauty in the world be sullied by some fool's greed? I just
don't get it.
Sorry for the OT rant.
Jimmy
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:45dcccc6$1@linux...
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> Hehe, well the setup that runs this show is pretty simple and cheap. She's
> a PIII 450MHz (or maybe 550 now?) with 128 meg of ram and I think an 8 gig
> hdd (might be only 6.5... don't recall). I imagine it's got a 300 watt
power
> supply or so. I'd be surprised if average consumption was 100 watts.
>
> It's running an APC UPS which the guys here funded as you may recall. I'm
> running what is basically an exceptionally high end home router. It can
handle
> about 1500 pipes running through it, and I'm pretty sure it's just one
user
> to one pipe for NNTP or the web interface (unless maybe someone opens
multiple
> web windows). This place really doesn't get anything close to 1500 though.
> We probably get 100-200 users log in over a day, and not all at once...
> perhaps maybe 20 people at once. Bandwidth usage is low here because it's
> all text based.
>
> The PC running the show though has zero trouble keeping up. Yes, you do
get
> delays in pages coming back at times, however I can tell you that this is
> a combination of the internet bandwidth / connection, as well as some of
> the power saving settings I'm using which I believe power down the HDD and
> such after no use for a period. If I'm at home, on the inside of the net
> connection, and I click refresh, or click around posts, the response is
pretty
> much instant. The server responds noticably quicker than any other page
anywhere
> on the internet that i've seen, even on mega quick connections.
>
> I would suggest, and I'm largely guessing, but with a site with say 3,000
> daily visitors you would still get by very comfortably on any half decent
> modern machine. 3,000 visitors means perhaps 1,000 as a max logged on at
> any one time, and of course mostly people are reading, not requesting
pages,
> or even off making a coffee. You'd be very unlucky to get 100 simultaneous
> page requests. Even if you did, if you run a gig of ram you'll have most
> of the top pages already in the memory buffer ready to spit out on
request.
> Once again, to get by on the cheap, you could just use a decent (APC?) UPS
> to keep it online.
>
> Beyond that you need a fast enough net connection, and a router to protect
> you and direct the traffic.
>
> I also have a another machine preloaded ready to take over if something
goes
> wrong, and it's configured to do backups of the posts. Every few days I
turn
> it on and it copies the latest posts off the server. This way we only lose
> a few days. Depending on the forum and how pro you wanted to be, you could
> just leave a second machine running constantly, and your backup would stay
> 100% up to date. You can also get machines configured so that, should the
> primary machine fail, the secondary machine takes over automatically so
service
> never stops. On the other hand with RAID do popular on motherboards these
> days you may get by with just a couple of hdd's mirrored in the same
machine.
> You'd need to think about backups though.
>
> For 3,000 people a day, at a guess, for a mostly text site with a touch of
> graphics, I'd say $2000 would be minimum to get you at least one machine
> setup and running doing the job, with maybe 1-2 hours UPS backup.
>
> I'm saying that as my best guess though. Truth is my setup is very
minimalist.
> It doesn't take much grunt to keep this particular show on the road due to
> relatively low readership and an almost exclusively text based content.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Uptown Jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >Howdy.
> >
> >I was wondering about user forums and hit counts and hardware and
> >electricity. How many users can Kim's setup handle, for instance? You
> >measure that sort of thing in "hits", right? What is Kim's setup, anyway?
> >How much power does it use per month? How much hardware and power is
> >necessary for a site that attracts, say, 3,000 people? 10,000? 50,000?
> >
> >I was wondering these things because a beloved user forum, "Chowhound",
> has
> >gone completely to shit since being sold by the founder to CNet. They've
> >absolutely wrecked the thing, and many of the old-school Hounds have left
> >the building, so to speak. The founder claims adamantly that he couldn't
> >afford to keep the site up and running, that it was going to go away
> >entirely if he didn't get deep pockets in on the action, but it somehow
> >doesn
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79052 is a reply to message #79039] |
Fri, 26 January 2007 19:22 |
Deej [4]
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ksis plugin thread a while back, I mentioned Flux plugins (new
>in the VST arena, but seem to be well respected in the Pyramix market).
I
>have them in house for review and just thought I would pass on some early
>observations for anyone interested.
>
>Very, very nice plugins. Nice GUI, easy install (usb dongle doesn't require
>extra drivers, registration, etc - just install, plug in and go), and work
>great in Nuendo 3.2 and Sequoia 8.3. The comp is very controllable, and
>more flexible than most. Both the EQ (Epure) and comp (Solera) are very
>transparent and smooth. These are designed as mastering plugins I believe,
>but work great on a lot of sources, including vocals. The multifunction
>comp (Solera) comes with 4 capabilites: compression, decompression,
>expansion and de-expansion - these can work interdependantly. In addition,
>there are separate plugins for each comp section as well in the Pure series.
>Each plugin can morph between t
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79233 is a reply to message #79022] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 19:57 |
Aaron Allen
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as wrong."
My dad also knew that my mom would get a half million bucks of insurance if
he killed himself, and I believe that was another part of the apology. How
does one accept an apology like that? I know that my mother and I have
dealt with this in very different ways...
> Depression is a choice. How bad do you want to live?
Maybe I'm arguing semantics, but clinical depression itself is not a choice.
Many people who suffer from depression don't even know they have depression,
and don't know that anything can be done about it. This is one of the
reasons that I believe it should be talked about openly - it's no different
from any other genetically encoded behavior pattern/tendency...
> There are three things that really help:
Yes, all three of these things are good, but I think we have to remember
that everyone is different, and what works for one person may not work for
another, no matter how much we believe in it. I think it is a mistake to
map our own beliefs, issues and solutions onto others. Each person must be
thought of separately, with separate genetics, separate environment, and
separate spirit. If we truly want to help that person, we must be open to
who they are. Being open to someone else's reality sometimes means that we
must put aside our own belief system and just accept that person for who
they are in that moment. For me personally, I trust that I am God's tool.
I know God has a bigger plan than I can understand or even know about, and I
strive to remain open to every moment and let each person be who they are,
no matter what I would have chosen for them. I know that in every
encounter, I have a role to play, and my part is to figure out exactly what
my role is...
> And I am very glad that you are here in the world with us and you
> certainly contribute in a major way.
We all have our part to play in the grand theater. Thanks for joining me.
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79246 is a reply to message #79241] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 22:14 |
Jeff hoover
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faith is about you, not us. It doesn't bother me
since
it bears no relation to the truth. I have been around bitter, hateful atheists
all my life. My uncles were friends with Madalyn Murry O'Hare.
Here is the reward for her life:
http://crimemagazine.com/ohair.htm
I hope yours turns out better.
DCHey all,
I now am using Sonar for quite a bit of my work. That being said, to me
nothing was better the recording live and overdub track on PARIS. Does anyone
know, if you can get PARIS to either link with Sonar or transfer the Projects
for PARIS to Sonar? Love recoring in PARIS and am considering going back.
Still would need to put together a system, I am wondering if I can still
get 16 inputs?
anyone with info, please email me .
Thanks
rickRead "Mastering Audio" (Bob Katz) about 8 months ago. Loved it... it goes
from basic to hi tech in a way that you can easily skip what you don't want
or need. Learned lots.
CLWow, lonely guy huh?
Now it's Pam Sullivan (his fiance) and his kids turn to be lonely huh?
There's a story to be told here... And it ain't out there yet.
DC
Perhaps it is
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"DC" <dc@spammersinboston.com> wrote:
>>Wish I knew what was on those notes he left...
>
>Well, then here's a small portion:
>
>http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=255185
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>Apparently, he looked out one morning, and the sun was gone.
>
>...then closed his eyes, and slipped away....
>
>
>Neil
>(not trying to be glib, just finding some of those lyrics
>ironic at this moment)TCB wrote:
> Well, Don, one doesn't need to be Sigmund effin Freud
Eeek! Damn it man! Now I have to clean the milk and cookie chips off
my monitor! (and out of my nose!) :-)
> All of which is far too subtle for a blinkered mind su
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79248 is a reply to message #79246] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:35 |
Neil
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a, but clubbing him on
>the head isn't going to change his attitude, but merely make him retreat
>deeper into that reality, building further artificial distinctions
>between his chosen group and others...
If you notice; when clubbed, I reach out rather than retreat. I hope
someday that Thad will stop fighting his own conscience about these
things. It is his soul he battles with, not me.
>While it is easy to see a stereotype of Bush-loving, NASCAR-watching,
>Support-our-solders, WWE-fan, pickup-truck-driving, Wal-Mart shopping,
>born-again, self-righteous, judgmental, evangelical fundamentalists, not
>ALL of them are mindless sheep who lack spirituality...
I don't even *know* any that fit your, or Thad's caricatures of Christians.
It's too silly to get upset about.
>Would it seem odd if I said to you that you can be atheist and Buddhist
>at the same time?
It's absolutely true. There is no deity required in Buddhism.
DCI don't pick fights with Don anymore, but I will respond when I am haughtily
treated and mocked. I don't expect to change his mind, but it does chafe
my ass to be told that depression is a 'choice' by someone who clearly doesn't
understand anything about it.
As for being a buddhist and an atheist, I don't think so. I'm pretty technical
about those kinds of words and I think to be a Thai buddhist you need to
believe in reincarnation and amulets and all of that. However, I will say
this, once a person is an atheist all religions become moral codes, and most
are pretty awful. Christianity is, in my opinion, better than most if only
because it's not especially vengeful or militaristic and Jesus himself believed
in the separation of church and state. But I still find it to be a humanity
hating religion, particularly if one happens to be a woman or enjoys having
sex with members of one's own sex. The Grecofied Jesus we get in Luke is,
again just in my opinion, the pick of the litter.
However, I will say this. As a moral code Thai buddhism, or more correctly
the Thai flavor of Theravada buddhism, is pretty damn hard to beat. I'm learning
more about it as time goes on, and I'm really going to dig in when I get
back from this trip, but it's not only a rather good moral code on its own,
it produces these people who so overwhelm me when I visit. Really, I almost
starting crying at dinner when my waitress who I've become buddies with started
showing me pictures of her 'vacation' to help out her friend helping out
people dead sick with AIDS. Here I am, stinking rich American and when I
go on vacation I go to Thailand and drink too much and go to titty bars and
buy expensive hand made clothes from Sikh tailors (and stingray cowboy boots
this time), and she who probably makes less in a year than I do in a month
goes to help sick people who are treated like dirt in this country. I felt
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79250 is a reply to message #79248] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 22:40 |
Jeff hoover
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m> wrote:
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>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>Well, Don, one doesn't need to be Sigmund effin Freud to guess that when
>a
>>healthy, financially and emotionally secure adult male with a family kills
>>himself he might have been depressed. And reading what the family said
('he's
>>now at peace' instead of 'we had no idea') makes it a notably stronger
case.
>
>
>Gee I didn't realize Freud was still in vogue... My point was that
>"depression" is too easy and tells us next to nothing.
>
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>>Further, how you could say I 'happily' present suicide as a choice when
>in
>>precisely that sentence I say that what he did was 'sad?' I was only observing
>>that in many societies (as a history buff ancient Rome and Greece come
immediately
>>to mind) suicide was considered a viable and socially accepted choice,
>
>So, in that context, does your sadness amount to anything other than
>a tossed-off fake sympathy?
Do I feel as bad as I would of my cat died? No, but of course I feel bad
for the family. I've seen first hand what suicide does to the people left
behind and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
>After all, suicide can be a "viable and socially accepted choice" right?
>
>There are other views, of course.
>
>
>>it remains today not just a choice but kind of the ultimate choice. In
addition,
>>in our modern society in certain situations--like taking suicidal risks
>in
>>wartime--leaving one's life on the table is considered heroic.
>
>None of which consitute suicide, so of course the reaction is, and
>should be, different.
>
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>>All of which is far too subtle for a blinkered mind such as your own. Your
>>point is that if everyone would go to the gym and love Jesus there wouldn't
>>be any depressed people anymore. I don't get offended by your pedantry
anymore,
>>that ended a few years ago. But from personal experience I can tell you
>that
>>I come from a family of hard working, god fearing, Jesus loving, workout
>>enjoying people and off the top of my head I can count six suicides among
>>the males in the past three generations, and that's not counting the ones
>>who took the slow ride via drugs and drink.
>
>
>I can show you reams of evidence that these things work. Further, I doubt
>your family is a good example of their failure. At least not if they are
>as prejudiced and bitter as you appear to be. I think you can do
>better. If you were really anything resembling an intellectual you
>would be more tolerant. Just a thought.
>
>
>>The women are either of sturdier
>>emotional stock or are contributing factors in the suicides because they
>>all live forever. I believe one of the primary reasons my own father decided
>>to get a doctorate in psychology was to better understand some of the demons
>>that his, and my, family face. But I guess he would have been better off
>>with a Stairmaster and a copy of the Good Book.
>
>I take it the Psych major worked for him? I sure hope so.
He had a successful career as a college professor, survived a midlife divorce,
helped put both of his kids through college, remarried and plays a lot of
golf. I think it worked out pretty well for him, and I think his knowledge
of the 'technicalities' of personality did serve him well.
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Mon, 29 January 2007 23:51 |
Neil
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>What works for you?
The endless, relentless, and in the end probably impossible pursuit of beauty
and truth, both in actual things and in thoughts. It shows up in odd places
and at odd times, and it will shimmer at you for a second and then be gone.
But it's tough going and one has to be ready to admit being wrong, find out
things from places other people would ignore, and in the end be willing to
change one's mind. I'd suggest you try it but you are already in possession
of the Truth, as spoken by an apostate rabbi in a low rent Roman buffer colony.
Why bother finding beauty or truth when already in possession of Truth?
>
>>P.S. While my hatred of the stateside twice born remains intact, my suspicion
>>of spirituality in general has been shaken by this trip to Thailand. It's
>>my third time here, and each time I've made a few new friends and gotten
>>closer to actual Thais. The country is over 90% Buddhist and their spirituality
>>in the face of very real hardships is inspiring. I've never encountered
>a
>>sweeter, gentler group of people in my life. I've gotten to know the (unspeakably
>>gorgeous) girls who work in the swank restaurant/bar in my hotel, and three
>>of them just went on holiday together earlier this week. Where? To a Buddhist
>>temple that cares for Thais with AIDS. They used their _vacation_ to take
>>food and medicine and money to some people seriously fucked over by the
>world.
>>One of the motivations was a friend of theirs who recently came out as
gay
>>to them, which is a far, far bigger deal in Thailand than in the US. And
>>instead of doing what would be easy, i.e. throwing the person out of their
>>life for making the wrong 'choice,' they embraced him and did something
>to
>>help the gay community in their country. I remain an atheist and make no
>>pretensions to Buddhism, but having seen how their piety brings out the
>noble
>>traits of charity and understanding I can no longer dismiss all religion
>>out of hand. Having seen what their quiet and sincere spirituality does
>for
>>Thais I have no choice but to respect it. I just despise closed minded
holy
>>roller US fuckheads that much more.
>
>
>There is much to learn from Buddhism.
>
>Your hate for people of faith is about you, not us. It doesn't bother me
>since
>it bears no relation to the truth. I have been around bitter, hateful atheists
>all my life. My uncles were friends with Madalyn Murry O'Hare.
I don't hate faith, Don, I hate holy rollers who want to remake my home country
into a Christian theocracy. You might be surprised by this but I actually
fix computers at the Episcopal church down the block for free. One of the
active lay people in the church drinks at my local watering hole and they
do good things. Running a soup kitchen and after school programs for the
poor kids who live nearby. So I help them out.
And the O'Hare person. I never heard of her before you mentioned her name
and for some reason because she was an awful person you think that anyone
who has any of the same beliefs must also be awful and bitter and likely
to be murdered. That makes no sense.
TCB
>Here is the reward for her life:
>
>http://crimemagazine.com/ohair.htm
>
>
>I hope yours turns out better.
>
>DC
>Did you get an answer?
Don
"Rick" <b12bar@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:45fa31a6$1@linux...
>
> Hey all,
> I now am using Sonar for quite a bit of my work. That being said, to me
> nothing was better the recording live and overdub track on PARIS. Does
> anyone
> know, if you can get PARIS to either link with Sonar or transfer the
> Projects
> for PARIS to Sonar? Love recoring in PARIS and am considering going back.
> Still would need to put together a system, I am wondering if I can still
> get 16 inputs?
> anyone with info, please email me .
> Thanks
> rick"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>I don't pick fights with Don anymore, but I will respond when I am haughtily
>treated and mocked. I don't expect to change his mind, but it does chafe
>my ass to be told that depression is a 'choice' by someone who clearly doesn't
>understand anything about it.
http://www.depressionisachoice.com/
You may not agree, but it is you who is ignorant of this topic.
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79252 is a reply to message #79251] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:07 |
Jeff hoover
Messages: 22
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>But I still find it to be a humanity
>hating religion, particularly if one happens to be a woman or enjoys having
>sex with members of one's own sex.
These are lies. Paul was the great liberator of women, and
while the Bible presents homosexual acts as sinful, it clearly
expects the sinner to be respected as much as the porn addict,
tax cheat, or infidel. Love the sinner, hate the sin. It's basic
Christianity for everyone I know. And even hating the sin is not
supposed to be a public act.
You are welcome to you own opinion, bigoted as it may be,
you are not welcome to your own facts.
DCNeil You are right on the money. That's the way I figure it too.
I suppose I could burn them, but I really don't want to. I want them pressed,
with the superior artwork, barcode, shrinkwrap, etc. I want the radio stations
and reviewers to take this seriously, even if I might not sell a lot of them.
The quality that I put into the music has to extend to the whole artisic
package. I even design them myself, including the cover paintings.
You never know. I could always have more made if I needed to.
Lou
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Lou,
>>
>>The economics of scale for manufactured CD's don't work well
>>until you make 1000. I've got a great outfit, but they will
>>tell you that 500 cost almost as much as 1000, and 300 is
>>worse.
>
>*Economics of pressing 1,000 CD's at $2 per CD, when you know
>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>
>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>
>
>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>
>Neilhttp://www.collegehumor.com/video:1747129/It's confirmed. You need help in the worst way. Hey call me at 4EST today,
OK? I want to pick your brain. My turn.
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1747129/
>
>
>I'll be looking for octopi for part of the day...............there are very
few resources available for this, but I may have found one:
http://www.utmb.edu/nrcc/LiveAnimRes.htm
However, they may balk since they may want to know the reason and I doubt if
wrestling is on their approved list, plus, WTF am I gonna do with a giant
octopus after the wrestling is done? I can't just throw it in the river..it
needs salt water.........so I may have to go to the octopus rather than the
other way around.
I need a vacation anyway. I'm gonna start looking around for "octopus
ranches". Surely they've got these in California. I think it is possible to
find anyting in California if you look hard enough........especially in the
personal ads.
:o)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45fab735$1@linux...
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> It's confirmed. You need help in the worst way. Hey call me at 4EST
> today,
> OK? I want to pick your brain. My turn.
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1747129/
>>
>>
>>
>> And the O'Hare person. I never heard of her before you mentioned her name
> and for some reason because she was an awful person you think that anyone
> who has any of the same beliefs must also be awful and bitter and likely
> to be murdered. That makes no sense.
>
Thad.......I met her on a few occasions back in the 70's when I was a
student at University of Texas and afterward. I don't know if she was awful
because she was an atheist, or because she was an antheist who felt like she
was being oppressed by the religious right (and there isn't much of that in
Austin..it's always been a liberal minded place for the most
part).........or because she was just mean......but she was one of the most
singularly unpleasant people I've ever had the misfortune to meet, more
then once.........so from my perspective, this extreme unpleasantness seems
to have been consistent thing. I never said anything to provoke this person.
As for her being murdered, if one subscribes to the theory that people
attract to themselves those who are of of like mind, then she certainly
could have found herself up to her neck in a swirling brew of negative
personalities.
Glad you're having good experiences in Thailand. It's springtime here,
skunk season has arrived, the hounds are estatic and I am a bit fatigued due
to having to do the "skunkcheck" for these guys prior to letting them
outside at night when they alert that the property perimeters have been
violated by some creature that has come out of hibernation and is foraging
for food. Unsupervised boundary patrols by the dogs can be disastrous at
this time of year.
Now back to the seach for giant, combative cephalopods......
;o) http://www.shockinghumor.com/videos/1534/Big_deck_drew_careyI can give you the phone number of an ex-girlfriend that qualifies as
an octopus... ;-)
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79253 is a reply to message #79251] |
Mon, 29 January 2007 23:07 |
Jeff hoover
Messages: 22
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David.
DJ wrote:
> I'll be looking for octopi for part of the day...............there are very
> few resources available for this, but I may have found one:
>
> http://www.utmb.edu/nrcc/LiveAnimRes.htm
>
> However, they may balk since they may want to know the reason and I doubt if
> wrestling is on their approved list, plus, WTF am I gonna do with a giant
> octopus after the wrestling is done? I can't just throw it in the river..it
> needs salt water.........so I may have to go to the octopus rather than the
> other way around.
>
> I need a vacation anyway. I'm gonna start looking around for "octopus
> ranches". Surely they've got these in California. I think it is possible to
> find anyting in California if you look hard enough........especially in the
> personal ads.
>
> :o)
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45fab735$1@linux...
>
>>It's confirmed. You need help in the worst way. Hey call me at 4EST
>>today,
>>OK? I want to pick your brain. My turn.
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1747129/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>DC wrote:
> If there is a God, there is but one reality. We can aspire to it,
> we can reject it, but there is but one. I apsire to know it.
While I tend to agree that there is but one "true" reality, I would also
say that each person can have, and indeed must have, a different
perception of that one reality, hence my reference to multiple
realities... Please bear with me for "fudging" the definitions. Have
you ever studied philosophy? We could start bandying about with
philosophical terms if you know the language used. (Do you understand
the differences between the terms "realism", "idealism" and
"representationalism"?)
> The accusation of closed-mindedness is always a dead giveaway that
> someone cannot respond to a point you have made.
Do you believe that I can't respond to a point you have made?
> When someone calls me "closed-minded",
Is "close-minded" an observation? An accusation? A condemnation? An
opportunity?
> let alone "blinkered" I know they are desperate and have
> little to say of substance.
Ah, have I also now been so categorized...? Am I desperate? Do I have
little to say of substance? Have you closed your mind to me?
> Any knowledge of truth will appear closed-minded to someone who
> does not have that knowledge.
Absolutely. The clubbing-of-the-heads can go both ways...
> If you notice; when clubbed, I reach out rather than retreat.
Do you reach out with questions (open-mind) or statements (closed-mind)?
> I hope someday that Thad will stop fighting his own conscience about
> these things.
That is his path to worry about. I'm glad he's thinking about these
things...
> It is his soul he battles with, not me.
I can't speak for Thad, but I know that I have had my own fight with
issues that are represented by people who speak in ways such as you do.
I am seeking a greater understanding, hence my involvement in this
conversation...
> I don't even *know* any that fit your, or Thad's caricatures of
> Christians.
Heehee, as I said, not ALL Christians are like that, but if you deny
ever having seen any like that, I'd suggest getting out more often...
:-) Have you ever read Twain's Letters From The Earth? Twain observed
a difference between "professing" and "professional" Christians. I have
seen both types, and I bet that if you have the open mind you claim to,
you'll see both types as well... ;-)
Namaste,
Dougoooooo.......I don't even want to know..........
;o)
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:45fac0fb$1@linux...
>I can give you the phone number of an ex-girlfriend that qualifies as an
>octopus... ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:
>> I'll be looking for octopi for part of the day...............there are
>> very few resources available for this, but I may have found one:
>>
>> http://www.utmb.edu/nrcc/LiveAnimRes.htm
>>
>> However, they may balk since they may want to know the reason and I doubt
>> if wrestling is on their approved list, plus, WTF am I gonna do with a
>> giant octopus after the wrestling is done? I can't just throw it in the
>> river..it needs salt water.........so I may have to go to the octopus
>> rather than the other way around.
>>
>> I need a vacation anyway. I'm gonna start looking around for "octopus
>> ranches". Surely they've got these in California. I think it is p
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79259 is a reply to message #79248] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 06:21 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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o multiple realities, there are only multple perceptions.
I believe that you and I are in agreement on that, maybe for different
reasons...
> Perception is a synonym for opinion. When you elevate opinion to
> reality, you make the word reality, meaningless.
And in all honesty, isn't it? (Or as my teacher might put it, "can you not
handle the doubt?")
> Good PoMo I suppose, but certainly not good logic...
Sorry, what is "PoMo"? And since when did logic have anything to do with
faith, spirituality, or for that matter, reality?
>>Do you believe that I can't respond to a point you have made?
>
> No, but you have not called me "closed-minded" yet and appear willing
> to actually enagage the issues rather then simply attack the person.
Ah, but if you go back and look, I did indeed imply that... ;-)
>>Is "close-minded" an observation? An accusation? A condemnation? An
>>opportunity?
>
> What does it mean to you?
All of the above... More important than the phrase itself is one's
*reaction* to the phrase...
>>Do you reach out with questions (open-mind) or statements (closed-mind)?
>
> Depends on whether the person is seeking or preaching.
Why treat those two things differently? I've always liked that idea that
when you point at others, there are three fingers pointing back... Are you
yourself a seeker? Or a believer?
> http://www.dwillard.org/books/DivConsp.asp
It's interesting that you point out this book that includes phrases such as
"consumer Christianity" and "bumper-sticker faith" yet you imply elsewhere
that we only get those ideas about Christians from "a secular media that
depsises them (sic)"...
> You believe lies about us, and I can prove it.
I don't understand how you can be so prescriptive about what the "you"
believe about the "us"... What can you prove?
> But of course, that might involve going to church and all...
"...church put me right off religion for fifteen years..." -John Cleese
Which church would be on the approved list to go to?
> Twain of course, was far from neutral in these things, wouldn't you say?
Neutral people are rarely inspired to write about anything. Have you
actually read that book yourself?
DougWas the channel mono? I don't remember how N2 handled it but SX2 may not be
sending stereo to Amplitube when inserted on a channel.
I've never heard a plugin sound any different on a channel vs. the main bus
in N3/C4 - stereo works fine there as long as the source is stereo.
If you mono audio on a stereo track, you can get a mono input to some
plugins, which is solved by sending to a stereo effect instead.
There are some amp sim comps that simply pass the right channel and only
process the left, making it only possible to use a mono track. Don't know
about Amplitube.
On 3/16/07 12:35 PM, in article kgolv2d4vie8930helbnjmg6f1eib5s4ju@4ax.com,
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79262 is a reply to message #78924] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 08:26 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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gt; Love the sinner, hate the sin. It's basic Christianity for everyone I
>> know.
>> And even hating the sin is not supposed to be a public act.
>This makes me wonder even more about all of your public messages...why do
>you attack Thad so much? Are you not yet Christian enough to love him?
I love him dearly actually. He reminds me of so many lost
souls trying to comfort their shouting consciences with hate.
He quite reminds me of myself at times, and worse he reminds
me of my uncle-the-atheist on his deathbed dying of leukemia
asking us for a reason to believe in God...
(He found one, BTW)
See, if I am wrong, I am just a silly cultist and you can all think
I am stupid. I can live with that. Because if I am right, then we
are living in the end times, and each of you will one day point
a finger at me and scream "why didn't you TELL us?? You KNEW!!
You knew, and you didn't tell us!" So, listen, or turn the page,
but enough with the hate because of my faith in my Lord.
It's pathetic and makes those who indulge in it look disturbed,
and I will never back down in the face of this bigotry.
The fact that some people are so offended that I care enough
to tell them the truth, even if I am wrong, casts serious
aspersions on their own beliefs and souls.
If a Hindu said to you that through good living, we can come
back as higher beings in the next life, and through an evil life
we will come back as bugs, some would listen, some would not,
but few would insult
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79265 is a reply to message #79241] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 08:39 |
Paul Artola
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o:nhamv21tm6qgaacqnc72eovfgmn1hnjuc0@4ax.com..." target="_blank">nhamv21tm6qgaacqnc72eovfgmn1hnjuc0@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:36:28 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
> wrote:
>
>>The octopus analogy could be either fun or fiightening.....I mean, if it's
>>referring to acrobatic prowess, yeah, I'm there, however, and not knowing
>>Dave all*that* well, I can only specualte that this might be referring to
>>eight officese, simultaneously accessible, either in parallel or in
>>series,
>>in which case I am reminded of the myriad possibilities that present
>>themselves when isolation and creativity are combined under just the right
>>circumstances......
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esl2NNOtHQE
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>now.........back to the lab.........
>>
>
> You know, there are times when you just frighten the hell out of
> me....
>
> And then it just gets worse....
>
> ;-P
>
> pabLooks like they don't advertise doing less than 500 pressed, like most places.
I actually found that Disc makers will press 300, and they will do the digipaks
for $990. Not bad for my needs. That includes all the extras I need.
So unless I see otherwise, when the time comes, I will probably go there
- unless
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79267 is a reply to message #78924] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 10:50 |
Steve Helm
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now
>>>you're going to sell 250 = $2,000 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>***$500 profit/50 Promo copies/700 drink coasters left over.
>>>
>>>*Economics of pressing 300 CD's at $5 per CD, when you know
>>>you're going to sell 250 = $1,500 outlay / $2,500 intake (if
>>>sold for an avg. of $10 each).
>>>***$1,000 profit, 50 promo copies, no drink coasters.
>>>
>>>
>>>Lou knows how much he can realistically expect to sell within
>>>a reasonable amount of time, based on his last CD's sales,
>>>otherwise he wouldn't be asking about the number 300.
>>>
>>>Neil
>>
>Don,
> I did not ignore it, I rejected it. It is irrational and allows you
> to say things that make no sense.
Burning bush that talks? Rising from the dead? Do these things make
"sense"? ;-)
> I do not engage in credential-comparisons, nor in the use of
> specialized terms as a way to establish authority, and will not
> do so now.
Hmmm, I have not displayed my credentials as of yet. I am merely trying
establish a fra
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79294 is a reply to message #79265] |
Tue, 30 January 2007 21:58 |
Nil
Messages: 245
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t;>
>>On 3/16/07 12:35 PM, in article kgolv2d4vie8930helbnjmg6f1eib5s4ju@4ax.com,
>>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i use SX2 mainly as a vsti/vst vehicles. when using amplitube2 on the
>>> mains insert i have found that the sound is much bigger, fatter and
>>> generally better than when using it on a individual channel insert.
>>> have any of you? i was showing this to one of the interns here
>>> yesterday and he too was amazed at the difference.
>>>
>>> rick
>Hey..... I"m from Croatia and I have question!!!
How I can use eds 1000 and eds 500 in same time on PC?
Please help... Thanks !!!!Hi,
As far as I know you cannot !
The EDS500 lacks the daughter effex\cts board where the pins are for interconnection
so you can't.
The only way is to sell me the eds500 !!
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Miljac" <miljenko.pusic@ka.t-com.hr> wrote:
>Hey..... I"m from Croatia and I have question!!!
>
>How I can use eds 1000 and eds 500 in same time on PC?
>
>Please help... Thanks !!!!
>
>Hi,
For long I was botherd with waves as there are many of them and I would love
to work with fewer !
Also the chainer vst plugin chainer could not see them as vst !
Spinaudio dx wrapper could not see waves as vst, Fxpansion also could not
see the waves vst's.
Now (well not for others) this can be done.
There is a free utility that loads the waveshells and EXTRACTS the waves
plugins as VST single instances !!!
That is a releief for me !
Now I can use my beloved chainer with waves plugins too , I can also choose
which waves actually wanna use from them all, more importanly I can make
subdirectories like waves_L, waves_R , wvaes_X , waves_Ren , etc.
Only Paris !! was able to look directly to waves vst plugins without even
opening the waveshell directory !
Now
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| Re: Ex -Paris users who still hang here - whats yer rig? [message #79789 is a reply to message #78972] |
Fri, 09 February 2007 13:27 |
Jon Jiles
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