| Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78945] |
Wed, 24 January 2007 17:11  |
Paul Braun
Messages: 391
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gt;
> >Snaps,
> >>>>>>> crackles, pops, lockups, usable only at unplayable latencies
(figure
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> out :-)). Two different computers, three different chipsets, all
> >the
> >>>> driver
> >>>>>>> revs. Extremely inflexible live monitoring, lack of panning when
> >used
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>> standalone mode. The list goes on and on, and I've basically
given
> >up
> >>>>> on
> >>>>>>> recording because I can't afford the time or the money to research
> >and
> >>>>> buy
> >>>>>>> something different.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Chuck
> >>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> But there seems to be this general opinion that there is
something
> >'wrong'
> >>>>>>>> with the driver in all cases. Needing to have the right chipset
> for
> >>> an
> >>>>>> esoteric
> >>>>>>>> third party add-on is a mild pain and something that should be
known,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>>>>> the idea that the Presonus gear does
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78978 is a reply to message #78945] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 08:05  |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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gt;>>>>>>back any suggestion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>Hi Carl,
I play acoustic all the time, have several laying around. I got bit by the
recording bug at age 17 or so with a 2 track then a 4 track. I love playing,
but I really like recording and the process more. Go figure...
Chuck
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Does an acoustic guitar work for you?
>
>-Carl
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:45db6695$1@linux...
>>
>> But come to think of it, I am beginning to realize that I am just a sad
>sack
>> about this stuff. The other day I went to play guitar and nothing worked,
>> I left the cable plugged into the wah and the wah died. So I removed
it
>> from the chain and the amp didn't work. I said screw it and decided to
>play
>> bass. Nothing doing. I left the cable plugged into that and the battery
>> for the active pickup died. hahahaha
>>
>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Well, that was a subject of another long sad post of mine. Basically
the
>> >room stinks, low cielings, small, rectangular. Can't really be treated
>because
>> >it's the family rec room.
>> >
>> >The instrument I like alot, but it's a small yamaha student upright.
It
>> >doesn't mic well, based on surroundings mostly, probably limitations
of
>> the
>> >technician, lord knows I tried for months to get a decent sound on tape.
>> >
>> >
>> >That's when I got the brilliant idea to go with giga for pianos, and
man
>> >the sound was great but that lead to needing an 88 key weighted
>controller,
>> >a search that took forever. Then giga worked but it wasn't integrated
>with
>> >cubase and I couldn't stand that because it just got to complicated when
>> >all I wanted to do was take ten minutes and record a song real quick.
>Then
>> >I got the brilliant idea to try halion, and import my gigas, which worked
>> >ok, but in the end I could never get acceptable, playable latencies in
>that
>> >environment using the presonus.
>> >
>> >In the end it's all so stupid and ridiculous that I gave up, which
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78980 is a reply to message #78978] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 08:26 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
Registered: January 2006
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d get a stand alone recorder next to your piano.
>> >>
>> >>Cheers,
>> >> -Jamie
>> >> www.JamieKrutz.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>chuck duffy wrote:
>> >>> I hear you man. It kills me, because I am normally deep voodoo
>uncommonly
>> >>> good at solving software, hardware and driver problems.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm glad all of you guys have solid rigs, but my cubase, firewire
>experience
>> >>> has left me never wanting to touch a computer again. I honestly get
>> a
>> >pit
>> >>> in my stomache when I think about recording. And it aint just
>pre-sonus.
>> >>> I have been through so much crap with this shit that it kills me.
I
>> >had
>> >>> a little midiman keyboard with lots of faders and knobs and stuff
that
>> >was
>> >>> perfect for B4, had a working template that mapped everything to the
>> draw
>> >>> pulls and knobs on the B4.
>> >>>
>> >>> Loved it. Then the USB quit working. So I switched to the
>conventional
>> >>> MIDI port, then the keys started breaking. So I switched to an edirol
>> >with
>> >>> lots of knobs and faders. No mapping for B4. Spent two days learning
>> >how
>> >>> to create the mapping, saved the template to the device.
>> >>>
>> >>> Things were fine, then the template mysteriously disappeared from
the
>> >keyboard,
>> >>> so I reloaded, then it stopped retaining settings completely when
>powered
>> >>> down. For a little while I wresled with re-loading the template from
>> >disk
>> >>> to the device every time I wanted to play. I memorized the 13
>keystrokes
>> >>> required, but then didn't play for a while and forgot, broke out the
>> manual
>> >>> and said f*** it and gave up.
>> >>>
>> >>> A critical hard drive died, without backup and I lost half my projects
>> >that
>> >>> I wanted to finish after a 10 year hiatus from actually doing any
>serious
>> >>> recording. 10% of the ones that I didn't loose are corrupt paris
>projects
>> >>> for whatever reason.
>> >>>
>> >>> Got a new computer, reloaded paris JUST TO EXPORT and fought with
1/1
>> >initialization
>> >>> for half a day. Then got it running and faced the real world for
a
>couple
>> >>> of weeks, returned to find that the demo had expired and I couldn't
>find
>> >>> antipace.
>> >>>
>> >>> Went to use GIGA on the new computer and worked through their warped
>> re-authorization
>> >>> process that involved me removing hacking the registry for everything
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| Re: Thinking of making a mobile rig... need suggestions [message #78991 is a reply to message #78987] |
Thu, 25 January 2007 11:29 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
Registered: January 2006
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far I've had to replace
>almost
>> >>>>> every
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> unit with some other device.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Focusrite Sapphire Pro is the only other in that price
>range
>> >>>> with
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> similar features. It doesn't have the routing features of
the
>> >Presonus
>> >>>>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> has the same number of I/O.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the long run I think you really better off going with
the
>> >MOTU
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>> RME
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> products.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If the the budget is an issues then I would recommend.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any of these would work in that budget and give you the
>cuemix
>> >controls
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> similar to Presonus and RME.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1x MOTU 8Pre
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1x Presonus Digimax FS
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> $1080.00
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This will give you 16 analog ins and 12 analog outs.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> or
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2x MOTU 8 Pre - $1070.00
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This will give you 16 analog in 4 analog outs (8 if you
>count
>> >the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> seperate headphones)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You will also have 16 channels of ADAT to use. So if you
add
>> >2 DigimaxFS
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to each of those you could have 32 analog ins and 24 outs.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What kind of issues is the Presonus FireStudio having?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "brandon" <a@a.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well..I would like to be able to record an entire band
at
>> one
>> >>> time
>> >>>>>>>> if
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> neded.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Inclding a live drumset.. Also Iwould lik
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