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oards along the =
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> > sort
> >> of like old Burma shave ads, then absolutely nothing for the next =
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> > miles,
> >> then suddenly an adult sex toy/video superstore popping up out of =
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> > void,
> >> only to be followed 50 miles later by more burma shave-like anti
abortion
> >> ads...........an
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68665 is a reply to message #68651] Sat, 27 May 2006 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;BR>"Neil"=20
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Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68679 is a reply to message #68665] Sat, 27 May 2006 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>Did some folks here recommend Bit Defender as the best in =
class? It wants
> me
>>to uninstall Norton before installing Bit Defender. Good move?
>>
>>Also, if so, which package? Satndard?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Jimmy
>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68707 is a reply to message #68679] Sat, 27 May 2006 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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:<BR>>>><BR>>>>for paris. desperately and =
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> needed!<BR>>>>any bright ideas?<BR>>>>cheers,=20
> <BR>>>>dan<BR>>><BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>
>I was trying to send out the SPDIF 0404 to the SPDIF on the MEC and I got
no signal in PARIS. I didn't try to sync lock the signal and I didn't make
sure everything was on the same sample rate, but it should be. Would the
absence of a sync clock cause the signal not to be recognized? Or should
I have heard something at least with pops and clicks?
In the PatchMix Output config I selected MON for the SPDIF.
I was registering on the Stereo LED output meter of the PatchMIx software.
But when I routed from the DL and RL on the MEC to a pair of channels and
record enabled them I got nothing for sound.
Does this sound right.
I was using a brand new Monster SDPIF RCA cable.

Thanks










"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Yessiree!!!!!
>
>http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/CO2-main.html
>
>I use one of these and it works great.........and it's bidirectional so
you
>only need one of them to send and return converted signals.
>
>DJ
>
>"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:44a4213e$1@linux...
>>
>> I know RME has products that do this, but they look a little pricey. Does
&g
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68709 is a reply to message #68707] Sat, 27 May 2006 23:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ded to see what was out there in the low
>> cost,
>> great value market (diamonds in the rough?) for LDC mics just in case I
>> get
>> in a pinch and rental isn't an option - any suggestions? I don't really
>> want to spend more than $200 as it would just be an emergency backup, and
>> I
>> may rent anyway, but any range is of interest if only out of curiosity.
>>
>> When I recently found my vocal mic for the session that day (and my last
>> good one) had developed a terminal case of buzz and hum (not cables
>> unfortunately - probably a cap or the power supply), I had to fall back to
>> a
>> Chinoknockoff $99 LDC from Pacific Pro Audio that I had bought a few years
>> ago on a whim.
>>
>> Despite my expectations, the PPA mic actually sounded good - much better
>> than I expected. The high mids and highs were better on this vocalist
>> (female) than the mic that died. No sibilance problems - easy to EQ
>> (proximity and sensitivity isn't consistent, and low mids aren't great on
>> male vocals, but for this it worked). Hmmm. My brain knows this mic
>> can't
>> be that good (didn't fare so well on the key jangling test, or on a male
>> R&B
>> vocalist, but...$99 is only $99) - hey, if it works, it works. It still
>> isn't the best of the inexpensive knockoffs though...
>>
>> So, what other sleeper mics are out there that are clear, clean, and as
>> smooth as one can expect for that price (other than the Studio Projects
>> C1)?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>
>Mine doesn't do the car key test very well but fortunately I'm not recording
car keys. I think the PPA is a 797 Audio with Pacific Pro Audio's label on
it. Haven't looked into it deeply but I think that was confirmed by someone
in the know.

W.

"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
news:C0CC2662.183B%dterry@keyofd.net...
> Hey Mark,
>
> I had forgotten about that. It sounds like I liked it at the time :-).
> It
> is interesting that some of these mics do turn out to be a bargain of
> sorts.
> I had forgotten about mine until recently.
>
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 7/1/06 12:10 PM, in article 44a6b982$1@linux, "W. Mark Wilson"
> <wmarkwilson@integrity.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Dedric, I bought one of these on your recom. Still have it, still
>> lean
>> on it. Great mic.
>>
>> W.
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>> news:C0CC02C4.1824%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>> Well,
>>>
>>> My two best vocal mics both went south (how inconsiderate of them) and
>>> while
>>> I'm waiting for repairs I decided to see what was out there in the low
>>> cost,
>>> great valu
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68710 is a reply to message #68709] Sun, 28 May 2006 00:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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e market (diamonds in the rough?) for LDC mics just in case I
>>> get
>>> in a pinch and rental isn't an option - any suggestions? I don't really
>>> want to spend more than $200 as it would just be an emergency backup,
>>> and
>>> I
>>> may rent anyway, but any range is of interest if only out of curiosity.
>>>
>>> When I recently found my vocal mic for the session that day (and my last
>>> good one) had developed a terminal case of bu
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68712 is a reply to message #68709] Sun, 28 May 2006 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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="mailto:dterry@keyofd.net" target="_blank">dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>> news:C0CC02C4.1824%dterry@keyofd.net...
>>>> Well,
>>>>
>>>> My two best vocal mics both went south (how inconsiderate of them) and
>>>> while
>>>> I'm waiting for re
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68718 is a reply to message #68712] Sun, 28 May 2006 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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want to attach it to a post
> =
> >to this NG, If you want to send me a PM at animix@animas.net, I'll =
> >e-mail it to you. It converts .paf to .wav.
> >
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "BRAD LUND" <blund@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> >news:44a5b42c$1@linux...
> > Hi all
> >
> > Are there any kind of utilities that will convert PPJ files, =
> >independent of PARIS,
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68719 is a reply to message #68710] Sun, 28 May 2006 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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into some other form? My PARIS system crashed a =
> >while back and frankly I do not want to rebuild another system. But I =
> >had some great mixes in PPJ format that I would love to transfer into =
> >Nuendo. Any help is appreciated!
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > --=20
> > Brad Lund
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
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> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Now that you're 56, it's already starting to happen,
> =
> >trouble=20
> >i
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68720 is a reply to message #68710] Sun, 28 May 2006 08:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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s, I can't remember what was you were talking about.....</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Happy BDay</FONT>-- <BR>Martin Harrington<BR><A=20
>
>href=3D"http://www.lendanear-sound.com">www.lendanear-sound.com</A><BR></=
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Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68721 is a reply to message #68719] Sun, 28 May 2006 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> > wrote in message <A=20
> >href=3D"news:44a68ca6@linux">news:44a68ca6@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>oh wait..........ppj=20
> > files???......duhhhhhh...............sorry.........now where's my =
> >
> > coffee???</FONT></DIV>
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> >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There is the pafwav converter. I =
> >think it was=20
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68723 is a reply to message #68721] Sun, 28 May 2006 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>Hi James,
Let me reinterate my point in choosing earth Wind And Fire.

First you have to define Rock & Roll. What is Rock & Roll? Where did it come
from? To you and others, Rock & Roll came via the 60's with the Beatles with
a sound of Distorted Guitars.

But, that's not true.. It started in the 50's with Little Richard and Chuck
Berry, Ike Turner..Rock & Roll was formed by Swinging Blues..

Now, Earth Wind And Fire was not my favorite band growing up. I'm more partial
to Quincy Jones Brothers Johnson band.. But, when you factor in that a band
could and did cover all the STYLES of Rock & Roll..There's no denying that
Earth Wind and Fire topped the list in all forms.

Style, Vocals, Musicianship, Stage Persona, Choreography, Stage precision..

It's insulting to even compare them to a 3-4 bar chord band. It really is.

More often than not, most of these kind of list are voted from the "Heart"
than the head.

No, Detroit ( My Home Town) Should not be the home of Rock & Roll because,
you are talking about the "Distorted" Rock & Roll form. The Home of Rock
& Roll Should be in Memphis Tennessee or one of those Mississippi towns.
Where the
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68725 is a reply to message #68709] Sun, 28 May 2006 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> >
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>***>No, EWF is thee greatest band of all time..
>>***
>>
>>See, here's the problem when you're attempting to assess the
>>the "greatest" ANYTHING... so much of it is subject to personal
>>taste. EWF is a band i always thought had great arrangements,
>>and i enjoyed a couple of their songs, but isn't even a band
>>that would immediately come to mind for me if i were the one
>>compiling the list, because they're simply not in a genre that
>>i pay all that much attention to.
>>
>>I think you'd have to narrow the focus more, in order to have a
>>list - or set of lists - that people could even remotely begin
>>to agree with.
>>
>>Best Straight-ahead Rock
>>Best Soul/Motown
>>Best Jazz
>>Best Progressive Rock
>>Best Blues
>>Best Pure Country
>>Best Crossover Country
>>etc., etc.
>>
>>Something like that would be a good start, and then apply the
>>criteria in each of those columns WITHIN EACH GENRE.
>>
>>Neil
>>
>Neil the reason you would not think them is because your definition of Rock
& Roll is of the "Distorted Guitar" form of Rock & Roll.
I grew up in the late 60's- 70's which in my opinion is some the greatest
music ever. My musical exposure growing up in Detroit is vast my many other
musicians coming from other states. In Detroit(inner-city), most of the players
grew up playing Hendrix out the gate right along with Motown, and bebop.
This was expected out of all Detroit Musicians..Now, my buddies accros 8
mile rd (aka the Burb) where ONLY concentrating on the "Hendrix" aspect of
the Rock art form..Hmmmm.. What's the reason for that.

Well, having many buddies rockers across 8 miles(akak the burbs), and afetr
many beers and jam sessions, we on the other side of the tracks (8 mile)
summized that they we just 'LAZY" and playing 3-4 bar chords and "licks was
easier to learn to play. Yep the old Beta vs VHS.
During the 70's in our region and across the US, playing the 3-4 bar chord
was every where. Me and my friends in'The Hood" were deep in studio of the
masters of Jazz,and you were not considered a"serious" musician if all you
played were 3-4 bar chords. By age 15, we were playing all forms of Rock
& Roll and we could go and sit in with any 3-4 bar chord bands and "ripped"
them a knew one :)..

I said all to say, that these kinds of list goes beyond personal taste, but
of the pure "ignorance" of the history of music..
Take care, LaMont

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>***>No, EWF is thee greatest band of all time..
>***
>
>See, here's the problem when you're attempting to assess the
>the "greatest" ANYTHING... so much of it is subject to personal
>taste. EWF is a band i always thought had great arrangements,
>and i enjoyed a couple of their songs, but isn't even a band
>that would immediately come to mind for me if i were the one
>compiling the list, because they're simply not in a genre that
>i pay all that much attention to.
>
>I think you'd have to narrow the focus more, in order to have a
>list - or set of lists - that people could even remotely begin
>to agree with.
>
>Best Straight-ahead Rock
>Best Soul/Motown
>Best Jazz
>Best Progressive Rock
>Best Blues
>Best Pure Country
>Best Crossover Country
>etc., etc.
>
>Something like that would be a good start, and then apply the
>criteria in each of those columns WITHIN EACH GENRE.
>
>Neil
>I have to agree with Neil. It really doesn't make sense to say that R&B and
Rock&Roll are the same thing, or in the same genre.
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68729 is a reply to message #68721] Sun, 28 May 2006 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68734 is a reply to message #68725] Sun, 28 May 2006 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<DIV>"uptown jimmy" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:johnson314@bellsouth.net">johnson314@bellsouth.net</A>&gt;=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:44a3233b@linux">news:44a3233b@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Rock on. Good help =
here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Frankly, I don't have a problem =
with Billy=20
Gates anymore. I trust him more than Bush by a long shot. =
Hmmmmm...Gates for=20
President.....hmmmm.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway, XP has been solid for me, =
and I use a=20
variety of trawlers and crawlers to check for malware: Spyware =
Doctor and=20
Blaster, Ad-Aware, Spybot Search and Destroy, etc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Speaking of malware, does Windows =
Defender=20
cover Trojans? I've been using TrojanHunter for a while now, but it =
seems=20
overly proactive sometimes with its self-appointed moves and=20
such...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jimmy</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
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href=3D"news:44a3092b@linux">news:44a3092b@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sort of, and I see your =
concerns...=20
basically, MS bought out a 3rd party app (GIANT was the beta I =
product)=20
and built on it. Here's the deal though. The ZoneAlarm vs. Windows =
built=20
in firewal app intended to block things out.... now do you REALLY =
think=20
that MS is blocking themselves in&nbsp;their own&nbsp;firewall?=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Of the spyware stuff.... my =
belief is that MS=20
is going to spy on you if you're on the net. Period. What they =
won't do is=20
sell your private data off on the black market or hang/hose your =
CPU time=20
up with replicating. They'll have back doors, IMHO, that =
nobody&nbsp;else=20
save the govt will be keen to. In a corporate, twisted kind of way =
I'm=20
actually ok with this. That very thing might be the ticket to =
nailing some=20
terrorists.&nbsp; Vista, after all the hoopla has died, will be =
little if=20
any different in this respect. If you want a scary bedtime story, =
start=20
reading all your EULAs. This goes for most EULAs (including Apple) =
outside=20
of MS, but not all of course. There are freeware alternatives, but =
that a=20
completely different bucket of worms. Bottom line in those EULAs =
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ed chicken.
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>Or my Miller High Life.
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>Jimmy
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>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:l4tla2h5qt7s51rj5s5kmt6a74i7l0cjcq@4ax.com...
>> EFFIN' RIGHT...no matter who tries to quash it...
>>
>> On 5 Jul 2006 01:16:09 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Happy 4th of July to all!
>> >
>> >Independence is a great thing!
>> >
>> >James
>>
>Now, celebrate that independence by going back to work today. errrr....hmmm.....

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Happy 4th of July to all!
>
>Independence is a great thing!
>
>JamesHey,
Any of you with a a Paris machine on one of the Athlon 64 X2 dual cores
might want to try this to see if it might improve things for you.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3152





Chris



--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
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chrisl@adkproaudio.comQuick!, Doug, install this and let me know if it helps your Cubase
machine... ;-)

David.

Chris Ludwig wrote:
> Hey,
> Any of you with a a Paris machine on one of the Athlon 64 X2 dual cores
> might want to try this to see if it might improve things for you.
>
> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3152
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>Yeah....you know what will happen if you don't......!!!!!
and while your at it...build a dual core amd Paris rig and try it on that.
;-)
rod

EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Quick!, Doug, install this and let me know if it helps your Cubase
>machine... ;-)
>
>David.
>
>Chris Ludwig wrote:
>> Hey,
>> Any of you with a a Paris machine on one of the Athlon 64 X2 dual cores

>> might want to try this to see if it might improve things for you.
>>
>> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3152
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>I'm trying to help a friend sync his Adrenalin to his Paris rig.
I think the Adrenalin syncs to midi clock...NOT timecode. If that's so he
would need something that either has a smpte to midiclock (could use BT smpte
stripe)miditimecode to midiclock(using Paris miditimecode) or 9 pin sync
to midiclock (using adat card)
Any one know of a good box for this?
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You need a Paris Sync module... ;-)

David

Rod Lincoln wrote:

> I'm trying to help a friend sync his Adrenalin to his Paris rig.
> I think the Adrenalin syncs to midi clock...NOT timecode. If that's so he
> would need something that either has a smpte to midiclock (could use BT smpte
> stripe)miditimecode to midiclock(using Paris miditimecode) or 9 pin sync
> to midiclock (using adat card)
> Any one know of a good box for this?
> Rod

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--------------080705010802020305090101--I disagree. It's more like ty-wrapping a pianist's left hand to his belt
loop. The inexperienced drummer will fill that freq space up beyond
recognition.

W.

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44aa5a8b@linux...
> No offense here guys but ttis is like asking a guitar player to leave all
> his notes on the 1st string out.I think Jodie Foster just entered the room wearing Carl's moniker.

W.

"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:r1tla2lipf7jrdk90o2gac9qihioh5agiu@4ax.com...
>i never would have pegged you as an abandoned lesbian...gotta be the
> Canadian thing...
>
> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 16:58:53 -0500, "Carl Amburn"
> <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Booo. Ney ta ta miss chick-pea.
>>
>>-CarlHa Ha, you wish....
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ac4233@linux...
> You need a Paris Sync module... ;-)
>
> David
>
> Rod Lincoln wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to help a friend sync his Adrenalin to his Paris rig.
>> I think the Adrenalin syncs to midi clock...NOT timecode. If that's so he
>> would need something that either has a smpte to midiclock (could use BT
>> smpte
>> stripe)miditimecode to midiclock(using Paris miditimecode) or 9 pin sync
>> to midiclock (using adat card)
>> Any one know of a good box for this?
>> Rod
>Good analogy, and an experienced drummer will play them in the right places
anyway.
Rod
"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:
>I disagree. It's more like ty-wrapping a pianist's left hand to his belt

>loop. The inexperienced drummer will fill that freq space up beyond
>recognition.
>
>W.
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@mag
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68753 is a reply to message #68750] Mon, 29 May 2006 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ma.ca> wrote in message news:44aa5a8b@linux...
>> No offense here guys but ttis is like asking a guitar player to leave
all
>> his notes on the 1st string out.
>
>Hey, maybe I could get Dimitrois to build one!!!!
Seriously...you uys know of anything. The dude doesn't have cubase synced
up or anything, just striaght Paris.
Rod
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Ha Ha, you wish....
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ac4233@linux...
>> You need a Paris Sync module... ;-)
>>
>> David
>>
>> Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to help a friend sync his Adrenalin to his Paris rig.
>>> I think the Adrenalin syncs to midi clock...NOT timecode. If that's so
he
>>> would need something that either has a smpte to midiclock (could use
BT
>>> smpte
>>> stripe)miditimecode to midiclock(using Paris miditimecode) or 9 pin sync
>>> to midiclock (using adat card)
>>> Any one know of a good box for this?
>>> Rod
>>
>
>I've got a Gigabyte NForce 3 mobo here with an AMD 64 4200 x 2 CPU sitting
in the ZIF socket. I also have a brand new system drive, a floppy and a DVD
R+W. What I don't have right now is the RAM and the time to get around to
building another PC. I've got another 13 slot Magma with a hosed backplane
that I'm going to send to Magma for repair (hopefully) in the next 30 days
or so. Once that is resolved, I may give this a try. By that time, someone
will probably have beaten me to the punch.
I was going to use this machine as a standalone VSTi host and perhaps give
FXT another try with some of the newer stuff coming down the pike. As far as
using it for Paris is concerned, unless running a dual core CPU with Paris
could resolve UAD-1 latency issues so I could migrate to using Paris on Win
XP without all of these ADAT modules that need Win ME OS, there's really not
much interest in it for me. My AMD XP 2800 runs all the Paris stuff I need.
I do, however, feel the stirrings of some primal Frankenstinian
urges..........so we'll see ...........

;o)


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:44ac3f5d$1@linux...
>
> Yeah....you know what will happen if you don't......!!!!!
> and while your at it...build a dual core amd Paris rig and try it on that.
> ;-)
> rod
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >Quick!, Doug, install this and let me know if it helps your Cubase
> >machine... ;-)
> >
> >David.
> >
> >Chris Ludwig wrote:
> >> Hey,
> >> Any of you with a a Paris machine on one of the Athlon 64 X2 dual cores
>
> >> might want to try this to see if it might improve things for you.
> >>
> >> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3152
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
>In the past I've used the JL Cooper PP1 and PPS2 with great results, but
those are definitely older boxes.
AA


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:44ac415b$1@linux...
>
> I'm trying to help a friend sync his Adrenalin to his Paris rig.
> I think the Adrenalin syncs to midi clock...NOT timecode. If that's so he
> would need something that either has a smpte to midiclock (could use BT
> smpte
> stripe)miditimecode to midiclock(using Paris miditimecode) or 9 pin sync
> to midiclock (using adat card)
> Any one know of a good box for this?
> Rod


I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlAbsolutely worth viewing on PBS:
Bruce Springsteen -- Seeger Sessions: Live From ST. Luke’s Church In London.

Performance, vibe, musicianship and sound, all great.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/shows/springsteen/

GeneI'm not a huuuuuge fan, but Springsteen is untouchable. He channels
something very powerful.

Jimmy


"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:44ac6e71$1@linux...
>
> Absolutely worth viewing on PBS:
> Bruce Springsteen -- Seeger Sessions: Live From ST. Luke's Church In
London.
>
> Performance, vibe, musicianship and sound, all great.
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/shows/springsteen/
>
> GeneI would party/hang with Jodie Foster any day of the week. ;) Tay n da way.

-Carl

"Dubya Mark Wilson" <mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote in message
news:44ac42af$1@linux...
> I think Jodie Foster just entered the room wearing Carl's moniker.
>
> W.
>
> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:r1tla2lipf7jrdk90o2gac9qihioh5agiu@4ax.com...
> >i never would have pegged you as an abandoned lesbian...gotta be the
> > Canadian thing...
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 16:58:53 -0500, "Carl Amburn"
> > <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Booo. Ney ta ta miss chick-pea.
> >>
> >>-Carl
>
>You can remix "Shock The Monkey" (plus some other RealWorld
artists' stuff), and maybe win a nice prize...

Here's my "Monkey" remix:
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68766 is a reply to message #68753] Tue, 30 May 2006 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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9@cs.com> wrote in message news:44acca76$1@linux...
>
> Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>
> Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but =
I just
> wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one =
time,
> or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we=20
> finally
> have a CD for sale of the
> songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
> little home studio).
>
> Please check out our website:
>
> http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>
> Thanks a lot!!!
>
>
>
>
>


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better than 90% of the music I hear on the radio these days. You guys did a
great job.

;o)


"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44acca76$1@linux...
>
> Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>
> Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but I just
> wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one time,
> or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
finally
> have a CD for sale of the
> songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
> little home studio).
>
> Please check out our website:
>
> http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>
> Thanks a lot!!!
>
>
>
>
>Doesn't it do this anyway???.....whenever I load a .wav file in Paris, it
automatically makes a .paf out of it. Have I been doing something wrong?

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:44ad1323@linux...
> I haven't seen that directly, but if I'm doing another DAW's stuff it's
> probably going to be 24 bit and that means import to PAF after stripwav.
> AA
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:44ad0f7c@linux...
> > The last three projects that were given to me from a Nuendo rig all
needed
> > to be stripped...nothing new there but inevitably every one of these
Paris
> > project ends up showing an unhandled exception notice and will not load,
> > with Paris crashing right after closing the message...and is most cases
> > causing the computer to crash and restart.
> >
> > Then yesterday Paris itself somehow got corrupted and wouldn't let me
> > launch...got an "unable to locate vst folder" notice immediately
followed
> > by an unhandles exception notive and then a complete black screened
comp.
> >
> > Had to remove Paris and reinstall it...no big deal but a PITA
> >
> > As a work around - if I immediately render the
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dinghampton.com" target="_blank">tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> > news:C0D330A3.15D7F%tony@standinghampton.com...
> > > I hear ya Deej. I also have several of the HOSA "molded" end snakes in
a
> > > closet here somewhere. I use some of their insert adapter cables on my
> > live
> > > rig too. I just figured being a budget brand, that something as
> sensitive
> > as
> > > a word clock might be a gamble. It's good to know their hardware is
> > decent.
> > > You know, if they'd have put the Zoalla brand name on it . . . Naw,
then
> > > they'd have to charge ten times as much. I might just have to give it
a
> > try.
> > > The price is definitely right.
> > >
> > > Speaking of live gear, I've been itching to talk about my new live
> mixer.
> > > Mackie TT24 digital board. I've only had it a couple of months, but so
> far
> > > I'm loving it. It replaced an older Roland VM-7200 rig I was using and
> the
> > > difference in sound is remarkable. The user interface is solid and
> pretty
> > > easy to learn and I've eliminated a 16 space rack of EQ's and
> compressors
> > > since this thing has everything I need built right in. OK, enough of
> that.
> > > Just had to dote on my new baby.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/6/06 7:30 PM, in article 44adab98@linux, "DJ"
> > > <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tony.........did you know that the most expensive and (arguably) the
> > best
> > > > digital cabling is made by Hosa. It is called Zaolla. I thnk Hosa
gets
> a
> > bad
> > > > rap because of their molded "semipro" snakes. I have used them and
> > though
> > > > they don't have the "top" that Mogami has, I wouldn't expect this
with
> > such
> > > > an inexpensive product. To be fair, I never once had one fail. They
> > always
> > > > did exactly what they were advertized to do without any problem
> > whatsoever.
> > > > I don't equate Hosa with the likes of Behringer or the new Mackie
> stuff
> > (I
> > > > picked up one of the Mackie live mixers recently and it is a POS
> > > > personified.....easily as crappy as Behringer). OTOH, I've got a
> couple
> > of
> > > > the Hosa AES>spdif bidirectional format converters here and they are
> > > > excellent products. Based on my experience with their products, I
> would
> > >
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be interested, that we finally
>>>have a CD for sale of the
>>>songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>>>little home studio).
>>>
>>>Please check out our website:
>>>
>>>http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>>>
>
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t;>> ;o)
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44ae4177$1@linux...
>>>> Oh Man, you're never gonna get close to divorce that way. BTW, the
> kicks
>>>> on the TD-20 suck. The snares, toms, cymbals and hihats are pretty
> nice.
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>
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;>> http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=KPC1
>>>>>
>>>>> I did this because I'm just a wimp compared to John.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>It does stream from disk normally. For live triggering, I'm thinking it
would be perhaps a bit more frisky if the samples were loaded to RAM. I'm
going to map the Korg wussie controller to BFD and see how it works.

;o)

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:44aeb4ba@linux...
>
> Ah, gotcha.
>
> Another option, if RAM is short, is to enable direct from disk mode.
> Does BFD support something like that?
>
> I'm running with just 2.5GB RAM and haven't had a problem, even with
> huge scores running multiple instances of a variety of plugins for
> orchestral sections, large piano sample set, large drum/percussion
> sample sets and tons of recorded instrument tracks, and even while also
> running other programs. But since this thing will take up to 8GB I've
> been mulling throwing in a couple more GB RAM for extra headroom on the
> graphics/animation side.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Your 2.5Ghz duallie should work just fine as long as you have sufficient
> > RAM. I didn't know what kind of rig John was using, but thus the
suggestion
> > that he spend as much $$ as possible.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
news:44ae8f12$1@linux...
> >> Is that for live, Deej, or are you really suggesting a dedicated
> >> computer for BFD? Is BFD that much of a CPU hog?
> >>
> >> I haven't used BFD. But I can trigger complex libraries from my DDrums,
> >> via MIDI, using Battery 2 as a plugin in Logic. My dual 2.5GHZ Mac
> >> doesn't sweat it, no additional computer necessary. Superior worked OK
> >> also, back when I was testing it.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Jamie
> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>
> >>
> >> DJ wrote:
> >>> You need to build a standalone host computer for BFD so you can
trigger
> > the
> >>> BFD kits in real time. I think that BFD has a mapping template for the
> >>> Roland giantmofo kit that you own.
> >>>
> >>> ;o)
> >>>
> >>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44ae4177$1@linux...
> >>>> Oh Man, you're never gonna get close to divorce that way. BTW, the
> > kicks
> >>>> on the TD-20 suck. The snares, toms, cymbals and hihats are pretty
> > nice.
> >>>> John
> >>>>
> >>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>>> http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=KPC1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did this because I'm just a wimp compared to John.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >Hey DJ, wow, thanks, that's very cool!!

Right now we are wrapped up in being a complete DIY indie thing (switching
from re-mastering engineer to graphic designer to webmaster to CD packing
and distribution, while working on some
new room treatment and finally getting down to CD 2 and, oh yeah,
almost forgot, writing songs :) ).

We sort of are trying to not think about "the biz", and actually kind of
enjoying the DIY thing, but, you know, a multi-million dollar deal with chicks
and cocaine and someone else to pack the CDs might change our mind (maybe)!

What is the event?

Thanks very much!

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>You need to get this material to Tony Ferguson at Innerscope. He's the guy
>who *discovered* No Doubt. I will be on staff at an event in Park Cities
>Utah in October. Tony (among others) will be there. If you're interested
in
>attending, e-me at animix@animas.net and I'll maske sure this gets heard.
>
>DJ
>
>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44ad84d7$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey DJ, you are too kind! We just hope to find a little niche
>> somewhere on the musical landscape. If we sell the 100 CDs
>> here in this cardboard box, we will jump around the kitchen as if
>> we're number 1 on Billboard.
>>
>> Thnaks DJ!
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >Very nice Macle. Really like your songs/arrangements.......This is soo
>much
>> >better than 90% of the music I hear on the radio these days. You guys
did
>> a
>> >great job.
>> >
>> >;o)
>> >
>> >
>> >"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44acca76$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>> >>
>> >> Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but
I
>> just
>> >> wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one
>time,
>> >> or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
>> >finally
>> >> have a CD for sale of the
>> >> songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>> >> little home studio).
>> >>
>> >> Please check out our website:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>> >>
>> >> Thanks a lot!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Right! More than we will I'm sure.

Thanks again Tony!

"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>That comes autographed then, right? I can sell it on eBay in a few years
and
>make some big bucks! ;>)
>
>Tony
>
>
>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44ad864a$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Tony, it looks like you are the official owner of
>> The Mates Future Junk first CD sold ever!!! We are no longer
>> rank amatuers giving away our wares for free, but big fat
>> stinking capitalist rock n roll pigs!
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>Excellent!
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44acca76$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>>>>
>>>> Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but
I
>> just
>>>> wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one

>>>> time,
>>>> or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
>>>> finally
>>>> have a CD for sale of the
>>>> songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>>>> little home studio).
>>>>
>>>> Please check out our website:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Hey Neil, how ya doing?

Thanks a lot...yes, after mucho madness, finally got it done,
feels good.

"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Congrats to Macle & Max for getting it done - some great tunes
>on there!
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>That comes autographed then, right? I can sell it on eBay in a few years
>and
>>make some big bucks! ;>)
>>
>>Tony
>>
>>
>>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44ad864a$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Tony, it looks like you are the official owner of
>>> The Mates Future Junk first CD sold ever!!! We are no longer
>>> rank amatuers giving away our wares for free, but big fat
>>> stinking capitalist rock n roll pigs!
>>>
>>> Thank you very much!
>>>
>>> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>>>>Excellent!
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44acca76$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but
>I
>>> just
>>>>> wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one
>
>>>>> time,
>>>>> or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
>>>>> finally
>>>>> have a CD for sale of the
>>>>> songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>>>>> little home studio).
>>>>>
>>>>> Please check out our website:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hi Sarah, thanks! I'm the king of broke, so I hear what you're
saying. (Maybe we're broke because we're always giving our stuff
away?!). Seriously though, The Mates actually made a pact to not
give any away, or swap or anything, even to friends or family
or even those damn industry people. For a long time, we
were giving our CD away, swapping with everyone, giving it away
on the net and so on, but since we have this new re-mastered one
with packaging and all, we feel we should try to be more real
about it, if you know what I mean. Hope that doesn't seem kinda dicky :)Thanks very much James!


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey macle, your songs sound great! I know quite a few A&R guys and Deej's
>idea of getting your material to Tony Ferguson is a 100% direct hit. Tony
>would be the number one guy I would submit your songs to first. I think
>he would like your stuff. I recommend you take Deej up on his offer!
>
>James
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>You need to get this material to Tony Ferguson at Innerscope. He's the
guy
>>who *discovered* No Doubt. I will be on staff at an event in Park Cities
>>Utah in October. Tony (among others) will be there. If you're interested
>in
>>attending, e-me at animix@animas.net and I'll maske sure this gets heard.
>>
>>DJ
>>
>>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44ad84d7$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey DJ, you are too kind! We just hope to find a little niche
>>> somewhere on the musical landscape. If we sell the 100 CDs
>>> here in this cardboard box, we will jump around the kitchen as if
>>> we're number 1 on Billboard.
>>>
>>> Thnaks DJ!
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>> >Very nice Macle. Really like your songs/arrangements.......This is soo
>>much
>>> >better than 90% of the music I hear on the radio these days. You guys
>did
>>> a
>>> >great job.
>>> >
>>> >;o)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44acca76$1@linux...
>>> >>
>>> >> Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but
>I
>>> just
>>> >> wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one
>>time,
>>> >> or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
>>> >finally
>>> >> have a CD for sale of the
>>> >> songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>>> >> little home studio).
>>> >>
>>> >> Please check out our website:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks a lot!!!
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>Hey Steve, good to see ya! So cool that so many from the
ol' days are still around here.

Thanks very much for buying the CD, appreciate it.

You know, I remember a long while ago, when I posted The
Buzz Is Over here, and you said it was the first song in a long
while that you felt compelled to pick out the chords like a
Beatle song. That meant a lot to me, very inspiring. That sort of
comment is what keeps you going when feel like giving up.

So thanks very much Steve!

"steve the artguy" <artguy@longtimenosee.net> wrote:
>
>I thought it was a good day since I just got back from seeing Nickel Creek
>for free. A friend had an extra ticket. Extraordinary show. As good as any
>in memory.
>
>And now a macle CD! This has turned into a great day!
>
>Thanks, macle!!!!
>
>-steve
>
>
>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>>
>>Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but I just
>>wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one time,
>>or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we finally
>>have a CD for sale of the
>>songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>>little home studio).
>>
>>Please check out our website:
>>
>>http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>>
>>Thanks a lot!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>You are seriously funny?!

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>nobody ever takes me seriously...sigh
>
>On 7 Jul 2006 07:33:22 +1000, "macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Now THAT'S funny!!
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>just what the world needs...more pretty people with talent...
>>>
>>>On 6 Jul 2006 18:31:50 +1000, "macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>>>>
>>>>Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but I
just
>>>>wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one
time,
>>>>or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we finally
>>>>have a CD for sale of the
>>>>songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>>>>little home studio).
>>>>
>>>>Please check out our website:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>>>>
>>>>Thanks a lot!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>I'll get back to you with more details in the next few days. I have a couple
of calls out right now to the organizers. If he's interested the first thing
Tony (or any A&R guy) will want to know is if you're ready to perform this
material live (as in 'giggin locally and on the road"). The fact that you
have a *radio ready* CD is a big plus. The fact that you guys are from LA is
also a plus. A & R guys like to walk in to a readymade money machine-act
with strong local following/draw piotential if at all possible. If you've
done a lot of self promotion and are making money due to your own efforts
and they can just sign you and get that money themselves is always a plus in
their book Whether or not there's enough in it for you to make it worth your
while is another matter altogether.

;o)


"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44aecef4$1@linux...
>
> Hey DJ, wow, thanks, that's very cool!!
>
> Right now we are wrapped up in being a complete DIY indie thing (switching
> from re-mastering engineer to graphic designer to webmaster to CD packing
> and distribution, while working on some
> new room treatment and finally getting down to CD 2 and, oh yeah,
> almost forgot, writing songs :) ).
>
> We sort of are trying to not think about "the biz", and actually kind of
> enjoying the DIY thing, but, you know, a multi-million dollar deal with
chicks
> and cocaine and someone else to pack the CDs might change our mind
(maybe)!
>
> What is the event?
>
> Thanks very much!
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >You need to get this material to Tony Ferguson at Innerscope. He's the
guy
> >who *discovered* No Doubt. I will be on staff at an event in Park Cities
> >Utah in October. Tony (among others) will be there. If you're interested
> in
> >attending, e-me at animix@animas.net and I'll maske sure this gets heard.
> >
> >DJ
> >
> >"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44ad84d7$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hey DJ, you are too kind! We just hope to find a little niche
> >> somewhere on the musical landscape. If we sell the 100 CDs
> >> here in this cardboard box, we will jump around the kitchen as if
> >> we're number 1 on Billboard.
> >>
> >> Thnaks DJ!
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >Very nice Macle. Really like your songs/arrangements.......This is soo
> >much
> >> >better than 90% of the music I hear on the radio these days. You guys
> did
> >> a
> >> >great job.
> >> >
> >> >;o)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44acca76$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey Paris People, how are you!?
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but
> I
> >> just
> >> >> wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one
> >time,
> >> >> or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
> >> >finally
> >> >> have a CD for sale of the
> >> >> songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
> >> >> little home studio).
> >> >>
> >> >> Please check out our website:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.themateswebsite.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks a lot!!!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Btw, some people are commenting on the sound (thanks!). Must be
listening to the clip I have on the website. Those snippets
are before the re-mastering, so (hopefully) the CD will sound
better than that.

Okay, thanks, sorry to be bogarting the board with this :).

"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>
>Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but I just
>wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one time,
>or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we finally
>have a CD for sale of the
>songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>little home studio).
>
>Please check out our website:
>
>http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>
>Thanks a lot!!!
>
>
>
>
>I think that what I'm hearing was well mixed. I have ordered the CD and am
looking forward to hearing the remastered version.

DJ

"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44aed727$1@linux...
>
> Btw, some people are commenting on the sound (thanks!). Must be
> listening to the clip I have on the website. Those snippets
> are before the re-mastering, so (hopefully) the CD will sound
> better than that.
>
> Okay, thanks, sorry to be bogarting the board with this :).
>
> "macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hey Paris People, how are you!?
> >
> >Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but I
just
> >wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one
time,
> >or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
finally
> >have a CD for sale of the
> >songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
> >little home studio).
> >
> >Please check out our website:
> >
> >http://www.themateswebsite.com/
> >
> >Thanks a lot!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>After 4 days of work I got a kick that works great! Woo hoo. All I
needed was one! Finally, Now my TD-20 is a total solution for me.

ahhhhh

DJ wrote:
> You need to build a standalone host computer for BFD so you can trigger the
> BFD kits in real time. I think that BFD has a mapping template for the
> Roland giantmofo kit that you own.
>
> ;o)
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44ae4177$1@linux...
>
>>Oh Man, you're never gonna get close to divorce that way. BTW, the kicks
>>on the TD-20 suck. The snares, toms, cymbals and hihats are pretty nice.
>>
>>John
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=KPC1
>>>
>>>I did this because I'm just a wimp compared to John.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>OK. I'd done a "just using original trax" remix, but it wasn't going ANYWHERE...

Forms a good basis though. Working on the jazz remix right now. :o)

By the way, I don't know what rating I gave yours... I clicked something
(not the stars) and it said "rating accepted" and went "But I didn't rate
it yet!!" so if you get there and I've given you a zero or something my apologies!
;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>So far, all the "Monkey" remixes I've heard on the site have
>been in the dance/trance/electronica/ambient vein.... mine's the
>only rock-oriented remix/reproduction up there. Someone do a C&W
>or Jazz version just to spice things up, willya? lol
>
>Neil
>
>
>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Yes - thanks for the info Neil. I'm giving this one a go too - always
been
>>a Peter Gabriel, and Genesis fan. Should be interesting to hear everyone's
>>take on a remix.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>>On 7/7/06 4:24 AM, in article 44ae365e$1@linux, "Kim"
>><hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gee, thanks heaps for that heads up. This is the most fun I've had for
>weeks.
>>> :o)
>>>
>>> I'll let you know when mine's finished...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can remix "Shock The Monkey" (plus some other RealWorld
>>>> artists' stuff), and maybe win a nice prize...
>>>>
>>>> Here's my "Monkey" remix:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.realworldremixed.com/remix.php?remix_id=pPgmQ9h0V WL6O94
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>What I need here is some horn players to play that main synth line...

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>So far, all the "Monkey" remixes I've heard on the site have
>been in the dance/trance/electronica/ambient vein.... mine's the
>only rock-oriented remix/reproduction up there. Someone do a C&W
>or Jazz version just to spice things up, willya? lol
>
>Neil
>
>
>Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>>Yes - thanks for the info Neil. I'm giving this one a go too - always
been
>>a Peter Gabriel, and Genesis fan. Should be interesting to hear everyone's
>>take on a remix.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>>On 7/7/06 4:24 AM, in article 44ae365e$1@linux, "Kim"
>><hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gee, thanks heaps for that heads up. This is the most fun I've had for
>weeks.
>>> :o)
>>>
>>> I'll let you know when mine's finished...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can remix "Shock The Monkey" (plus some other RealWorld
>>>> artists' stuff), and maybe win a nice prize...
>>>>
>>>> Here's my "Monkey" remix:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.realworldremixed.com/remix.php?remix_id=pPgmQ9h0V WL6O94
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Alright, cool.

Yeah, that's the thing, all the stuff you mention, not sure if
we're really at the place they would want or need (we're not
playing live, for example). Plus, based on the experience we had
before, not sure if we really want to deal with that stuff right
now (long story).

But, you never know!

Thanks very much DJ.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I'll get back to you with more details in the next few days. I have a couple
>of calls out right now to the organizers. If he's interested the first thing
>Tony (or any A&R guy) will want to know is if you're ready to perform this
>material live (as in 'giggin locally and on the road"). The fact that you
>have a *radio ready* CD is a big plus. The fact that you guys are from LA
is
>also a plus. A & R guys like to walk in to a readymade money machine-act
>with strong local following/draw piotential if at all possible. If you've
>done a lot of self promotion and are making money due to your own efforts
>and they can just sign you and get that money themselves is always a plus
in
>their book Whether or not there's enough in it for you to make it worth
your
>while is another matter altogether.
>
>;o)
>
>
>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44aecef4$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey DJ, wow, thanks, that's very cool!!
>>
>> Right now we are wrapped up in being a complete DIY indie thing (switching
>> from re-mastering engineer to graphic designer to webmaster to CD packing
>> and distribution, while wor
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with a view to upgrade
>at some stage.
>It appears the time is nigh!!
>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>is one of the fave mobos.
>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>Did it pan out for you??
>Thanks,
>Kim #2.
>
>HOW LATEX GLOVES ARE MADE

A dentist noticed that his next patient, an elderly lady, was
looking very nervous so he decided to tell her a little joke as he put
on his gloves.
Do you know how they make these gloves?" he asked.
"No, I don't" she replied.
"Well," he spoofed, "there's a building in China with a big tank
of latex. Workers of all hand sizes walk up to the tank, dip in their
hands, let them dry, then peel off the gloves and throw them into
boxes of the right size."
She didn't crack a smile.
"Oh well, I tried," he thought. But five minutes later, during a
delicate portion of the dental procedure, she burst out laughing!
"What's so funny?" he asked.
"I was just picturing how condoms are made!" she said.
Gotta watch those little old ladies! Their minds are always
working!Hi, all.
Back in the 70's I owned and loaned a couple of LF bootlegs, which I never
got back!. I was reminiscing the other night, and decided to google the title
"Beak Positive" in the hope of locating a hard copy of this fab LP. (the
opener was a ROCKIN'
version of "Skin It Back".
I found a legit site which hosts open source "artist approved" live recordings
and I am now re-living my wayward youth to the tune of "Eldorado Slim", recorded
at the Santa Monica Civic Centre in 1973.
This site has all you could eat, feat-wise.

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=little%20feat

Sorry if it's old news, it's the beer talkin'....Is this the board? http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1868

I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus mx800
and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ hell
end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
a better motherboard.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>Cheers.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi, all.
>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>at some stage.
>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>Did it pan out for you??
>>Thanks,
>>Kim #2.
>>
>>
>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from the
bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless they've
added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use. It's
quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's maybe
crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.

My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
but that seems unlikely...)

Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though, and
only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues apart
from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
take it back before my warranty runs out...).

It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>Cheers.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi, all.
>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>at some stage.
>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>Did it pan out for you??
>>Thanks,
>>Kim #2.
>>
>>
>Nope, this one... five slots:

http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?ProductID=1839

If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for each
slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's not
perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can seperate
as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.

....and it's really stable and really quick. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>Is this the board? http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1868
>
>I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
>be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus mx800
>and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ hell
>end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>a better motherboard.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>Cheers.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi, all.
>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>at some stage.
>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>Thanks,
>>>Kim #2.
>>>
>>>
>>
>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That may
be an issue for you.

If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from the
>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless they've
>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
It's
>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's maybe
>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>
>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>but that seems unlikely...)
>
>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
and
>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues apart
>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>
>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>Cheers.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi, all.
>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>at some stage.
>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>Thanks,
>>>Kim #2.
>>>
>>>
>>
>Thanks, Kim.
No Dual core.
Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
What version of Direct X are you using?
Is SP2 a no-go?
Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
image.
I'll look up the f6 bios.

Cheers,

Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
may
>be an issue for you.
>
>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from the
>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
they've
>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>It's
>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's maybe
>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>
>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>
>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>and
>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues apart
>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>
>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>at some stage.
>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I've been a pretty happy camper on XP SP-2 with this board.

I don't remember disabling anything, though I may have. I did go in and set
up the interrupts. I may have turned off things like the printer port. I'm
just having a look at F10 BIOS now and will report back in a moment (if the
computer boots ;o).

Not sure which DirectX I have... probably should know that... how do I
check?

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks, Kim.
>No Dual core.
>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>What version of Direct X are you using?
>Is SP2 a no-go?
>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>image.
>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>may
>>be an issue for you.
>>
>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
the
>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>they've
>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
maybe
>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>
>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>
>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
apart
>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>
>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Good news. The F10 BIOS update seems to have the full IRQ control back on
board again. I'm running that now, and the machine boots. Can't tell you
much more.

I've updated BIOS as well as IDE drivers on board here in the hope that it
fixes my issue with losing HDD's. We'll see. I might be lucky...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks, Kim.
>No Dual core.
>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>What version of Direct X are you using?
>Is SP2 a no-go?
>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>image.
>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>may
>>be an issue for you.
>>
>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
the
>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>they've
>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
maybe
>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>
>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>
>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
apart
>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>
>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hi, Kim.
Search for DXdiag.exe
It's probably in windows/system32 directory.
That will tell you which DirectX version you are running.
Thanks.
Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I've been a pretty happy camper on XP SP-2 with this board.
>
>I don't remember disabling anything, though I may have. I did go in and
set
>up the interrupts. I may have turned off things like the printer port. I'm
>just having a look at F10 BIOS now and will report back in a mom

ent (if the
>computer boots ;o).
>
>Not sure which DirectX I have... probably should know that... how do I
>check?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>>No Dual core.
>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>>image.
>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>may
>>>be an issue for you.
>>>
>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
BIOS
>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>the
>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>they've
>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>It's
>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>maybe
>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>and
>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>apart
>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Running DirextX 9.0c...

Cheers
Kim.

"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks, Kim.
>No Dual core.
>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>What version of Direct X are you using?
>Is SP2 a no-go?
>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>image.
>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>may
>>be an issue for you.
>>
>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
the
>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>they've
>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
maybe
>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>
>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>
>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
apart
>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>
>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
Re: Mastering in Paris [message #68781 is a reply to message #68753] Tue, 30 May 2006 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Amuse is currently offline  Amuse   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 90
Registered: February 2006
Member

>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Cool!
Hope you don't mind if I need to pick your brains a bit over the next few
days if I need to.
I need to be up and running by wednesday.
Thanks again for your advice.
Kim

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Running DirextX 9.0c...
>
>Cheers
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>>No Dual core.
>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>>image.
>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>may
>>>be an issue for you.
>>>
>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
BIOS
>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>the
>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>they've
>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>It's
>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>maybe
>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>and
>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>apart
>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Pick away. Happy to be of help where I can. Good luck.

And GHOST GHOST GHOST!!

Cheers,
Kim.


"Kim W." <no@way.com.> wrote:
>
>Cool!
>Hope you don't mind if I need to pick your brains a bit over the next few
>days if I need to.
>I need to be up and running by wednesday.
>Thanks again for your advice.
>Kim
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Running DirextX 9.0c...
>>
>>Cheers
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks, Kim.
>>>No Dual core.
>>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack
Re: Multi Band Mastering in Paris [message #68782 is a reply to message #68780] Wed, 31 May 2006 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
1 install, which I am about
to
>>>image.
>>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>>may
>>>>be an issue for you.
>>>>
>>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
>BIOS
>>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>the
>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>they've
>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>>It's
>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>maybe
>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>
>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>
>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>and
>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>apart
>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>(should
>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>
>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>attempt
>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me

Kim wrote:
> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from the
> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless they've
> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use. It's
> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's maybe
> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>
> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
> but that seems unlikely...)
>
> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though, and
> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues apart
> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>
> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>Cheers.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, all.
>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>at some stage.
>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>Thanks,
>>>Kim #2.
>>>
>>>
>>
>excellent potential !

Kim wrote:
> Nope, this one... five slots:
>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?ProductID=1839
>
> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for each
> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's not
> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can seperate
> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>
> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>Is this the board? http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1868
>>
>>I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
>>be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus mx800
>>and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ hell
>>end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>>a better motherboard.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>at some stage.
>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>I'm reading that AGP shares with 1 $ 5 so I really on get 4 IRQs. Still
good but why can't motherboards find a workaround to give me 20 slots
and 20 irqs?

Kim wrote:
> Nope, this one... five slots:
>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?ProductID=1839
>
> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for each
> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's not
> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can seperate
> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>
> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>Is this the board? http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1868
>>
>>I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
>>be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus mx800
>>and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ hell
>>end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>>a better motherboard.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>at some stage.
>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>I did all these things for xp but the IRQ problem has really been the
major problem here but it's finally sorted out but I can't even add a
freaking audio card cuz of IRQs. I currently have 2 eds and one agp
video and ethernet. Really lame.



run the setup app to install the scherzo drivers, reboot, then install
Paris, reboot, then the effects subsystem, then reboot.


musicxp.com tips

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Drives off to NEVER
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Disable your network card by right clicking on the nic icon
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thing you should do is defrag the main drive even if it doesn't say it
needs it. This way the swap file has been truly set and you're ready to
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Start > Settings > Control Panel > System > Advanced > Performance
Settings > Advanced Tab > Background Services

Advanced tab: Press Settings tab under Performance Visual Effects tab:
set to Adjust for Best Performance.

Switch Off Desktop Background Image
Right Click Desktop > Properties > Desktop Tab > Background None

Click on the Screen Saver tab, Set Screensaver to None, Press the Power
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Tab > (highlight your soundcard from the list) > Properties > Audio
Devices > (highlight your soundcard from the list) > Properties, and
check the "Do not map through this device" checkbox.

Disable System Restore
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Switch off Automatic Updates by going to Control Panel, System,
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Right click My Computer and click on Properties > Advanced > Start Up &
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Reporting > Click the Disable Error Reporting box (Tick the "But Notify
Me When Critical Errors Occur" if you prefer)

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to connect remotely to this computer"

Fixed Swap File (Virtual Memory)
Select the Advanced tab of the Systems applet and then select the
Performance settings button. Then select the Advanced page. In here it
is possible to customise the Virtual Memory. For custom size, this is
often recommended to be 1.5 to 2 times the amount of your total RAM for
both initial and maximum size. Set this to a fixed minimum and maximum
value according to your existing RAM

Speed Up Menus
You can use this tip to speed up the Start Menu in Windows XP. You can
customize the speed of the Start Menu by editing a Registry Key. Click
Start, and then click Run. Type Regedit in the box, and then click OK.
Expand the menu in the left panel and select the
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop folder. Scroll down in the right
panel and double click on the MenuShowDelay file. In the Value Data box,
change to default value for the menu speed from 400 to a lesser number,
such as 1. Click OK.

Disable Offline Files
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Folder Options > Offline Files >
Untick "Enable Offline Files"

Disable Internet Synchronise Time
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Date and Time > Internet Time >
Untick "Automatically synchronize with an internet time server"

Disable Hide Inactive Icons
Start > Settings > Taskbar and Start Menu > Taskbar TAB > Uncheck "Hide
Inactive Icons"

Disable Automatic Desktop Cleanup Wizard
Start > Settings > Control Panel > Display > Desktop > Customise Desktop
> Untick "Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard every 60 days"

Disable NTFS Last Access Time Logging (NTFS Only)
Start > Run > regedit > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM > CURRENTCONTROLSET
> CONTROL > FILESYSTEM Add a new DWORD value -
"NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate" (without quotes) and set the value to 1.
Then reboot to make changes effective

Disable Notification Area Balloon Tips
Click Start , click Run , type regedit , and then press ENTER.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced Right-click the right pane, create a
new DWORD value, and then name it EnableBalloonTips . Double-click this
new entry, and then give it a hexadecimal value of 0 . Quit Registry
Editor. Log off Windows, and then log back on.

----------------------------------------------
Disable CDROM Autoplay
One of the very important (and well documented) tweaks in Windows 98SE,
was to disable CDROM autoplay (auto insert notification). Disabling
CDROM autoplay no longer offers a significant performance benefit in
Windows XP, and therefore you do not need to disable it. Just don't
insert a CD during a crucial recording.

However, if you really want to disable it then here a few different methods.

Method 1

Start > Run > Regedit

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdrom

Set autorun to 0.

Method 2

Open My Computer Right Click on each CDROM and choose Properties Click
on the Auto Play tab In the drop down box you can choose the Action for
each choice shown in the drop down box

Method 3

Go to Start->Run->gpedit.msc Computer Config -> Administrative Template
-> System Double click Turn off Autoplay Enable it.
----------------------------------------------

Disable Disc Indexing
Indexing Service is a service that extracts the information from a set
of documents and organizes it in a way that makes it quick and easy to
access that information through the Windows XP Search function, the
Indexing Service query form, or a Web browser.

This information can include text from within a document, (its
contents), and the characteristics and parameters of the document, (its
properties), such as the author's name. Once the index is created, you
can search, or query the index for documents that contain key words,
phrases, or properties.


-----------------------------------------
Additional tips Descriptions
-----------------------------------------

Partitioning. A useful tip when configuring your audio disc, is to
split this into two partitions. Set up a smaller "audio scratch"
partition - say 6GB of a 30GB hard disc. This partition will be used for
the songs that you are currently working on. The benefit of a smaller
partition is obviously quicker defragmentation. If you use the entire
30GB as one partition, then this will take ages to defragment. When you
are finished with a song, transfer the audio files to the non-scratch
partition, where disc I/O performance isn't so critical.

Messenger starts up at the windows load up but we can get rid of that in
no time at all..
Start Menu>Run
Type this in exactly as it is here:
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
Hit Enter...you will see a DOS-like shell appear and disappear very
quickly and then it will ask you to restart.

Right-click on your desktop, and then click Properties.
Click on Themes tab
Set Themes to Windows Classic

Also do this for the Start Menu:
Right-click the Start button, and then click Properties.
Click Classic Start menu.
Click the Customize button to select items to display on the Start menu.
By default, selecting the Classic Start menu also adds the My Documents,
My Computer, My Network Places, and Internet Explorer icons to your
desktop.

----------------------------------------
Increase your IRQ priority - You can increase the IRQ priority of the
real-time CMOS clock to gain some system performance by doing the following:
1.) First create a text file with the extension .reg
2.) Paste the following into the file:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Priorit yControl]
"IRQ8Priority"=dword:00000001

3.) Double-click on the file to enter the tweak into your registry.

This can be un-installed should you need to by repeating the three steps
above with a new file, except this time use the following in your .reg file:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Priorit yControl]
"IRQ8Priority"=dword:00000000
----------------------------------------

Disable Power Management - Power management can be disabled by going
Start» Settings » Control Panel » Power Management. Set the Power Scheme
to "Always On" and set "System Standby", "Turn off hard disks" and "Turn
off monitor" to "Never".

Set graphic acceleration to full - You can do this by going to your
desktop, right clicking and clicking on "Properties" then on "Settings",
"Advanced" and the "Performance" tab. Make sure the Hardware
Acceleration slider is set to "full" to reduce the load on your CPU.

Disable background applications - Background applications start up when
your computer starts up and can use up unneccicary resources. To prevent
these from starting up go to Start » Run and type "msconfig" in the run
box. Click on the "startup tab" and disable (uncheck) programs such as
"taskmon", "load power profile", "real player", "office startup",
"winamp agent" and so on. Keep programs like "scan registry", "system
tray" and programs relating to interfacing with your audio card (such as
console software to control its features).

Disable USB - If you do not have any devices actively using USB in your
system (this includes dongles for your software), disable USB as it is
known to sometimes cause problems in certain DAW configurations. Not
only will this help to increase system performance, but it will also
free up an IRQ. Right click on your "My Computer" icon on your desktop
and select "Properties". Click on the "Device Manager" tab and scroll
down until you see the USB section. Click on the "Properties" for the
USB device and check off "Disable in this Hardware Profile". You will
have to reboot for these settings to take effect.

Graphical window settings - Go to Start » Settings » Folder options and
click on the "View" tab. Under "Visual settings" check off "Show window
contents while dragging. This is more of a usability tweak, as it will
allow you to see the contents of windows on the screen as you drag them
around (instead of them going blank).


Disable NTFS Last Access Time Logging (NTFS Only), Start > Run >
regedit > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE > SYSTEM > CURRENTCONTROLSET > CONTROL >
FILESYSTEM Add a new DWORD value - "NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate"
(without quotes) and set the value to 1. Then reboot to make changes
effective


Kim wrote:
> I've been a pretty happy camper on XP SP-2 with this board.
>
> I don't remember disabling anything, though I may have. I did go in and set
> up the interrupts. I may have turned off things like the printer port. I'm
> just having a look at F10 BIOS now and will report back in a moment (if the
> computer boots ;o).
>
> Not sure which DirectX I have... probably should know that... how do I
> check?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>>No Dual core.
>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>>image.
>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>
>>may
>>
>>>be an issue for you.
>>>
>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>
> the
>
>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>
>>they've
>>
>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>
>>>It's
>>>
>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>
> maybe
>
>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>
> apart
>
>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>
>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>
> attempt
>
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>where do the hdds go?

Kim wrote:
> Good news. The F10 BIOS update seems to have the full IRQ control back on
> board again. I'm running that now, and the machine boots. Can't tell you
> much more.
>
> I've updated BIOS as well as IDE drivers on board here in the hope that it
> fixes my issue with losing HDD's. We'll see. I might be lucky...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Kim.
>>No Dual core.
>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about to
>>image.
>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>
>>may
>>
>>>be an issue for you.
>>>
>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest BIOS
>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>
> the
>
>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>
>>they've
>>
>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>
>>>It's
>>>
>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>
> maybe
>
>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>
> apart
>
>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>>>
>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>
> attempt
>
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>
Re: Multi Band Mastering in Paris [message #68783 is a reply to message #68778] Wed, 31 May 2006 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>Acronis drive image kicks the ghosts butt. :-)

Kim wrote:
> Pick away. Happy to be of help where I can. Good luck.
>
> And GHOST GHOST GHOST!!
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Kim W." <no@way.com.> wrote:
>
>>Cool!
>>Hope you don't mind if I need to pick your brains a bit over the next few
>>days if I need to.
>>I need to be up and running by wednesday.
>>Thanks again for your advice.
>>Kim
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Running DirextX 9.0c...
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks, Kim.
>>>>No Dual core.
>>>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>
Re: Multi Band Mastering in Paris [message #68784 is a reply to message #68782] Wed, 31 May 2006 07:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
Senior Member
>>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about
>
> to
>
>>>>image.
>>>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Kim
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>>>
>>>>may
>>>>
>>>>>be an issue for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
>>
>>BIOS
>>
>>>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>
> states
>
>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>
>>>>they've
>>>>
>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's
>>>>>
>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>
>>>maybe
>>>
>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>>
>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>
>>>apart
>>>
>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>
>>(should
>>
>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>
>>upgrade
>>
>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>
>>which
>>
>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>>
>>>attempt
>>>
>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>where do the hdds go?

You have to go back into the BIOS and set them up again. Actually from memory
they lose the boot order and try and boot from the wrong one...


>
>Kim wrote:
>> Good news. The F10 BIOS update seems to have the full IRQ control back
on
>> board again. I'm running that now, and the machine boots. Can't tell you
>> much more.
>>
>> I've updated BIOS as well as IDE drivers on board here in the hope that
it
>> fixes my issue with losing HDD's. We'll see. I might be lucky...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "Kim W" <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks, Kim.
>>>No Dual core.
>>>Just a 3500+ which is cheap right now in OZ.
>>>I don't really want a "screamer". Just sometyhing that will do the biz.
>>>What version of Direct X are you using?
>>>Is SP2 a no-go?
>>>Did you have to disable anything in the bios?
>>>These are the sort of issues I'm concenrned about.
>>>So far I have a barebones XP service pack 1 install, which I am about
to
>>>image.
>>>I'll look up the f6 bios.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and I forgot to mention, BIOD F6 has no dual core CPU support. That
>>>
>>>may
>>>
>>>>be an issue for you.
>>>>
>>>>If you like, and you need dual core support, I can load up the latest
BIOS
>>>>and have a look see. I haven't tried F9 or F10 yet...
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>
>>>they've
>>>
>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>>>
>>>>It's
>>>>
>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>
>> maybe
>>
>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>
>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>
>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>
>> apart
>>
>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
>>>>
>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>
>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>
>> attempt
>>
>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with 5.

It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if you
use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.

It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.

Cheers,
Kim.



John <no@no.com> wrote:
>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>
>Kim wrote:
>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
the
>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
they've
>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
It's
>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
maybe
>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>
>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>
>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
and
>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
apart
>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault (should
>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>
>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>Cheers.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>at some stage.
>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an attempt
>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>Hi, Kim.
If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
Kim W.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with 5.
>
>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
you
>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>
>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>
>>Kim wrote:
>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual states
>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>the
>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>they've
>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>It's
>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>maybe
>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>
>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>
>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>and
>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>apart
>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
(should
>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>
>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to upgrade
>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as which
>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>Scrap my last post, I just re-read one of yours.
I'm gonna flash my board to f10, and see how the paris install pans out.
Hmmm, if I could just get someone to do a beer run....
>
>Hi, Kim.
>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>Kim W.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
5.
>>
>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>you
>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>
>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>the
>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>they've
>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>maybe
>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>apart
>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>(should
>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, Kim.
>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>Kim W.

I am now, though I had a mixup for a minute there and was using F6. I did
an update and somehow accidentally copied the old BIOS on top of the new.
But I'm pretty sure now that BOTH BIOS's are F10, and I still have interrupt
control, and in my hour of using it I've been stable... not much of a test
of course...

Cheers,
Kim.

>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
5.
>>
>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>you
>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>
>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
states
>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>the
>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>they've
>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I use.
>>It's
>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>maybe
>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>
>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently running
>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>
>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>and
>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>apart
>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>(should
>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>
>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>Hmmm, if I could just get someone to do a beer run....

I would, but it's an eight hour drive... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.


>>
>>Hi, Kim.
>>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>>Kim W.
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>5.
>>>
>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
>>you
>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>
>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless that's
>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>
>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>states
>>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>the
>>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>they've
>>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
use.
>>>It's
>>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>maybe
>>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months now.
>>>>>
>>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
running
>>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>
>>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>and
>>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>apart
>>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>(should
>>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>attempt
>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>Are you in Melbourne??
I'm in lil' ol' Drabelaide!!
I'll be over in melbourne in a few weeks to visit friends that
had the foresight to leave here some years ago!!
I'd love to buy you a drink (or three) for the effort you've put
into this forum.
Now... If I could just work out how to flash the K9NS without having to install
a damn floppy drive!!!!

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>Hmmm, if I could just get someone to do a beer run....
>
>I would, but it's an eight hour drive... ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>>>
>>>Hi, Kim.
>>>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>>>Kim W.
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>5.
>>>>
>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
if
>>>you
>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
never
>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>
>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
that's
>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>states
>>>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it from
>>>>the
>>>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>they've
>>>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which I
>use.
>>>>It's
>>>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes. It's
>>>>maybe
>>>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>running
>>>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It forgets
>>>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6 firmware,
>>>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>and
>>>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>apart
>>>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>(should
>>>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>which
>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
an
>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:

Download @BIOS here and you can do it in Windows. :o)

http://www.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/Utility_Model.a spx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=1839&ProductNam e=GA-K8NS%20Ultra-939

I'd love to catch up if you're coming over. Shoot me an
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email at the address
above and I'll shoot you my mobile number.

Cheers,
Kim.

>
>Are you in Melbourne??
>I'm in lil' ol' Drabelaide!!
>I'll be over in melbourne in a few weeks to visit friends that
>had the foresight to leave here some years ago!!
>I'd love to buy you a drink (or three) for the effort you've put
>into this forum.
>Now... If I could just work out how to flash the K9NS without having to
install
>a damn floppy drive!!!!
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>Hmmm, if I could just get someone to do a beer run....
>>
>>I would, but it's an eight hour drive... ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi, Kim.
>>>>If I understand it correctly, you are using bios f10??
>>>>Kim W.
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with
>>>5.
>>>>>
>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually
which
>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it
>if
>>>>you
>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working
fine
>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I
>never
>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
>that's
>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>> The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the manual
>>>states
>>>>>>> you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed it
from
>>>>>the
>>>>>>> bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control (unless
>>>>>they've
>>>>>>> added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, which
I
>>use.
>>>>>It's
>>>>>>> quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never crashes.
It's
>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>> crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 months
>now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm currently
>>running
>>>>>>> on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. It
forgets
>>>>>>> HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the F6
firmware,
>>>>>>> but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card system though,
>>>>>and
>>>>>>> only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no issues
>>>>>apart
>>>>>>> from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB fault
>>>>(should
>>>>>>> take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
to
>>>upgrade
>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
as
>>>which
>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>an
>>>>attempt
>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
C-16's.
>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2 CPU
sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.

Hmmmm......


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>
>
> Nope, this one... five slots:
>
>
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
ID=1839
>
> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
each
> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's not
> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
seperate
> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>
> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
> >
> >Is this the board?
http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
868
> >
> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to not
> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
mx800
> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
hell
> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
> >a better motherboard.
> >
> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >>Cheers.
> >>
> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Hi, all.
> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
upgrade
> >>>at some stage.
> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
which
> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
attempt
> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >>>Did it pan out for you??
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>Kim #2.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>AMD patch...

....rrrrrrEALLY?!?

....sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2 CPU
>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>
>Hmmmm......
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>
>>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>ID=1839
>>
>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>each
>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
not
>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>seperate
>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>
>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Is this the board?
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>868
>> >
>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
not
>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>mx800
>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>hell
>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>> >a better motherboard.
>> >
>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >>Cheers.
>> >>
>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>Hi, all.
>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>> >>>at some stage.
>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >>>Thanks,
>> >>>Kim #2.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>You talking about this one?

-------------------------------
AMD Dual-Core Optimizer - The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer can help improve some
PC gaming video performance by compensating for those applications that bypass
the Windows API for timing by directly using the RDTSC (Read Time Stamp Counter)
instruction. Applications that rely on RDTSC do not benefit from the logic
in the operating system to properly account for the affect of power management
mechanisms on the rate at which a processor core's Time Stamp Counter (TSC)
is incremented. The AMD Dual-Core Optimizer helps to correct the resulting
video performance effects or other incorrect timing effects that these applications
may experience on dual-core or multiple processor systems.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30 _182_871_13118,00.html

Cheers,
Kim.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2 CPU
>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>
>Hmmmm......
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>
>>
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>ID=1839
>>
>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>each
>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
not
>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>seperate
>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>
>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >Is this the board?
> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>868
>> >
>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
not
>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>mx800
>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>hell
>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I need
>> >a better motherboard.
>> >
>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>> >>Cheers.
>> >>
>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>Hi, all.
>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>upgrade
>> >>>at some stage.
>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>which
>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>attempt
>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>> >>>Thanks,
>> >>>Kim #2.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>The Butchery begins!!
I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
This is getting REALLY interesting.
I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>AMD patch...
>
>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>
>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2
CPU
>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>
>>Hmmmm......
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>ID=1839
>>>
>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>>each
>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>not
>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>seperate
>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>
>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >Is this the board?
>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>868
>>> >
>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
>not
>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>mx800
>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>>hell
>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I
need
>>> >a better motherboard.
>>> >
>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>> >>Cheers.
>>> >>
>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>upgrade
>>> >>>at some stage.
>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>which
>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>attempt
>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>> >>>Thanks,
>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>;o).......well..... I'm gonna spread this around a little
bit................

http://www.ksut.org/underwriters.cfm

http://www.kdur.org/

http://www.997thepoint.com/

It's a small town here with a local liberal arts college with lots of kids
from all over the place........very active music scene.

I don't know how successful I'll be, but I have met the program directors
for these stations and they all have had various *opportunity hours* for
local indy projects to get airplay. You guys aren's local, but I am and I
record some of the artists who these guys know, so I'll try to sneak
something in under the radar.

..o)


"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44af3cd6$1@linux...
>
> Yes you did! Three of 'em! Yeeee-haw, we is rich!
>
> We don't need no stinkin' label!! :)
>
> Thanks very much DJ, we really appreciate the support.
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I think that what I'm hearing was well mixed. I have ordered the CD and
> am
> >looking forward to hearing the remastered version.
> >
> >DJ
> >
> >"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44aed727$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Btw, some people are commenting on the sound (thanks!). Must be
> >> listening to the clip I have on the website. Those snippets
> >> are before the re-mastering, so (hopefully) the CD will sound
> >> better than that.
> >>
> >> Okay, thanks, sorry to be bogarting the board with this :).
> >>
> >> "macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >Hey Paris People, how are you!?
> >> >
> >> >Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but I
> >just
> >> >wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one
> >time,
> >> >or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
> >finally
> >> >have a CD for sale of the
> >> >songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
> >> >little home studio).
> >> >
> >> >Please check out our website:
> >> >
> >> >http://www.themateswebsite.com/
> >> >
> >> >Thanks a lot!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four massive
cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...

....NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)

Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?

....I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>The Butchery begins!!
>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>AMD patch...
>>
>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>
>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2
>CPU
>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>
>>>Hmmmm......
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>ID=1839
>>>>
>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>>>each
>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>>not
>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>seperate
>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>
>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >Is this the board?
>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>868
>>>> >
>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
to
>>not
>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>>mx800
>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>>>hell
>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I
>need
>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>> >
>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>>upgrade
>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>>which
>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
an
>>>attempt
>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four C-16's.
>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>And stuff an Emu 0404 sound card in there too for me. Then I'll start
the begging to buy the motherboard!!!

Kim W. wrote:
> The Butchery begins!!
> I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
> So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
> remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
> This is getting REALLY interesting.
> I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>AMD patch...
>>
>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>
>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x 2
>
> CPU
>
>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>
>>>Hmmmm......
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>ID=1839
>>>
>>>>If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS for
>>>
>>>each
>>>
>>>>slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>>
>>not
>>
>>>>perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>
>>>seperate
>>>
>>>>as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>
>>>>...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is this the board?
>>>
>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>868
>>>
>>>>>I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots to
>>
>>not
>>
>>>>>be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>>
>>>mx800
>>>
>>>>>and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will IRQ
>>>
>>>hell
>>>
>>>>>end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime I
>
> need
>
>>>>>a better motherboard.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view to
>>>
>>>upgrade
>>>
>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
>>>
>>>which
>>>
>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
>>>
>>>attempt
>>>
>>>>>
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e fave mobos.
> >> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
> >> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far as
> >which
> >> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in an
> >attempt
> >> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
C-16's.
> >> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >> >>>Did it pan out for you??
> >> >>>Thanks,
> >> >>>Kim #2.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>It lives, It breathes.
Now I gotta get it off the kitchen table and into the studio.
(after installing both Quadro cards and drivers).
Lookin' good so far! Time to Ghost.
Pale Ale Powered, Kim.
BTW. Check your e-mail.


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four massive
>cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
>of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...
>
>..

..NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)
>
>Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?
>
>...I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>The Butchery begins!!
>>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>AMD patch...
>>>
>>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>>
>>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x
2
>>CPU
>>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>>
>>>>Hmmmm......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>>ID=1839
>>>>>
>>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS
for
>>>>each
>>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>>>not
>>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>>seperate
>>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Is this the board?
>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>>868
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
>to
>>>not
>>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>>>mx800
>>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will
IRQ
>>>>hell
>>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime
I
>>need
>>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
to
>>>>upgrade
>>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
as
>>>>which
>>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>an
>>>>attempt
>>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
C-16's.
>>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Ah, Pale Ale. My mate Trev texted me the other day claiming that Pale Ale
was "the best beer EVER!!", though I don't quite agree. I'd go a Little Creatures
myself, though Coopers is a very nice drop...

Glad you got them all in. Any room left in there for John's Emu card? ;o)
Not with two Quardo cards I guess...

Which slots did you use for what? Normally you'd use AGP and Slot 1 for graphics,
but given 1 shares with 5 and may not share with AGP perhaps it would be
better to have the EDS cards in 1 & 5 and the Quadro in another slot in between...?

Let us know how you go anyhow. I'm interested to know what she can take.
Might buy me another EDS card some day. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.



"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>It lives, It breathes.
>Now I gotta get it off the kitchen table and into the studio.
>(after installing both Quadro cards and drivers).
>Lookin' good so far! Time to Ghost.
>Pale Ale Powered, Kim.
>BTW. Check your e-mail.
>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four
massive
>>cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
>>of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...
>>
>>..
>
>.NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)
>>
>>Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?
>>
>>...I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The Butchery begins!!
>>>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>>>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>>>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>>>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>>>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>AMD patch...
>>>>
>>>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>>>
>>>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200 x
>2
>>>CPU
>>>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that *might*
>>>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hmmmm......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>>>ID=1839
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS
>for
>>>>>each
>>>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control. It's
>>>>not
>>>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>>>seperate
>>>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >Is this the board?
>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>>>868
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
>>to
>>>>not
>>>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an Asus
>>>>>mx800
>>>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will
>IRQ
>>>>>hell
>>>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime
>I
>>>need
>>>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>to
>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>as
>>>>>which
>>>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use, in
>>an
>>>>>attempt
>>>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>C-16's.
>>>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>No email yet... did you get the address right...?

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Ah, Pale Ale. My mate Trev texted me the other day claiming that Pale Ale
>was "the best beer EVER!!", though I don't quite agree. I'd go a Little
Creatures
>myself, though Coopers is a very nice drop...
>
>Glad you got them all in. Any room left in there for John's Emu card? ;o)
>Not with two Quardo cards I guess...
>
>Which slots did you use for what? Normally you'd use AGP and Slot 1 for
graphics,
>but given 1 shares with 5 and may not share with AGP perhaps it would be
>better to have the EDS cards in 1 & 5 and the Quadro in another slot in
between...?
>
>Let us know how you go anyhow. I'm interested to know what she can take.
>Might buy me another EDS card some day. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>It lives, It breathes.
>>Now I gotta get it off the kitchen table and into the studio.
>>(after installing both Quadro cards and drivers).
>>Lookin' good so far! Time to Ghost.
>>Pale Ale Powered, Kim.
>>BTW. Check your e-mail.
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Ah, yes, sorry, I'd forgotten to consider physical limitations of four
>massive
>>>cards. I only have two cards, which fitted fine, though I do recall some
>>>of the MB connectors were in annoying positions...
>>>
>>>..
>>
>>.NOW I remember... fat use I am!! ;o)
>>>
>>>Coopers Green or Red? Did somebody do a beer run...?
>>>
>>>...I think I have some coopers green in the fridge still...
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The Butchery begins!!
>>>>I gotta get all four EDS cards in here!!
>>>>So far I've had to bend the firewire header pins south, and
>>>>remove the perforated chipset fan cover.
>>>>This is getting REALLY interesting.
>>>>I'm glad I have a thick skin at this point...courtesy of Coopers!!
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>AMD patch...
>>>>>
>>>>>...rrrrrrEALLY?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>...sounds like you're just the man to do some testing. ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>>That's the same mobo that I have sitting here with the AMD 64 4200
x
>>2
>>>>CPU
>>>>>>sitting in it..........and there's an AMD patch out there now that
*might*
>>>>>>allow Paris to operate with a dual core CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmmmm......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44af8c47$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, this one... five slots:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overv iew.aspx?Product
>>>>>>ID=1839
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you stick with BIOS rev F6 it has interrupt control in the BIOS
>>for
>>>>>>each
>>>>>>> slot. It's close to as good as I've seen with interrupt control.
It's
>>>>>not
>>>>>>> perfect... I think slot 1 shares with 5 or something, but you can
>>>>>>seperate
>>>>>>> as much as you're likely to be able to on anything else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and it's really stable and really quick. :o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Is this the board?
>>>>>> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec. aspx?ProductID=1
>>>>>>868
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >I'm looking for a board that has more slots. And I need the slots
>>>to
>>>>>not
>>>>>>> >be shared with other resources. Right now I have 3 slots on an
Asus
>>>>>>mx800
>>>>>>> >and 1 shares irq with sound and another with agp card. When will
>>IRQ
>>>>>>hell
>>>>>>> >end !!! Probably when I get rid of Paris! hehe In the meantime
>>I
>>>>need
>>>>>>> >a better motherboard.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>> >>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>> >>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>> >>Cheers.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>> >>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>> >>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a view
>>to
>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>> >>>at some stage.
>>>>>>> >>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>> >>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and the K8NS
>>>>>>> >>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>> >>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>> >>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as far
>>as
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>> >>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't use,
in
>>>an
>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>> >>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>> >>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and four
>>C-16's.
>>>>>>> >>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>> >>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>> >>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>> >>>Thanks,
>>>>>>> >>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>.o)

What are you a Pirate now? ;o)

>
>
>"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44af3cd6$1@linux...
>>
>> Yes you did! Three of 'em! Yeeee-haw, we is rich!
>>
>> We don't need no stinkin' label!! :)
>>
>> Thanks very much DJ, we really appreciate the support.
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >I think that what I'm hearing was well mixed. I have ordered the CD and
>> am
>> >looking forward to hearing the remastered version.
>> >
>> >DJ
>> >
>> >"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44aed727$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Btw, some people are commenting on the sound (thanks!). Must be
>> >> listening to the clip I have on the website. Those snippets
>> >> are before the re-mastering, so (hopefully) the CD will sound
>> >> better than that.
>> >>
>> >> Okay, thanks, sorry to be bogarting the board with this :).
>> >>
>> >> "macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >Hey Paris People, how are you!?
>> >> >
>> >> >Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but
I
>> >just
>> >> >wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at one
>> >time,
>> >> >or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
>> >finally
>> >> >have a CD for sale of the
>> >> >songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
>> >> >little home studio).
>> >> >
>> >> >Please check out our website:
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.themateswebsite.com/
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks a lot!!!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Arrrrrggghhhhh matey!!!!

;o)

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afdf8e$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >.o)
>
> What are you a Pirate now? ;o)
>
> >
> >
> >"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44af3cd6$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Yes you did! Three of 'em! Yeeee-haw, we is rich!
> >>
> >> We don't need no stinkin' label!! :)
> >>
> >> Thanks very much DJ, we really appreciate the support.
> >>
> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >> >I think that what I'm hearing was well mixed. I have ordered the CD
and
> >> am
> >> >looking forward to hearing the remastered version.
> >> >
> >> >DJ
> >> >
> >> >"macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote in message news:44aed727$1@linux...
> >> >>
> >> >> Btw, some people are commenting on the sound (thanks!). Must be
> >> >> listening to the clip I have on the website. Those snippets
> >> >> are before the re-mastering, so (hopefully) the CD will sound
> >> >> better than that.
> >> >>
> >> >> Okay, thanks, sorry to be bogarting the board with this :).
> >> >>
> >> >> "macle" <Mates9999@cs.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hey Paris People, how are you!?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Well, I don't really know who's still here after all this time, but
> I
> >> >just
> >> >> >wanted to let those who may be interested, or were interested at
one
> >> >time,
> >> >> >or used to be interesed and still just might be interested, that we
> >> >finally
> >> >> >have a CD for sale of the
> >> >> >songs I posted oh so long ago (all recorded on Paris in my
> >> >> >little home studio).
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Please check out our website:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://www.themateswebsite.com/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks a lot!!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>Hope this isn't TOO much of a case of egregious name dropping, but I had
the pleasure of playing a bunch of Little Feat tunes for 2 nights on stage
with Paul Barrere last year. I'm a piano player, so you can guess my level
of glee being up there doing Dixie Chicken and Willin' (among others) with
Paul.
Will definitely scope that site out!!


"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>Hi, all.
>Back in the 70's I owned and loaned a couple of LF bootlegs, which I never
>got back!. I was reminiscing the other night, and decided to google the
title
>"Beak Positive" in the hope of locating a hard copy of this fab LP. (the
>opener was a ROCKIN'
>version of "Skin It Back".
>I found a legit site which hosts open source "artist approved" live recordings
>and I am now re-living my wayward youth to the tune of "Eldorado Slim",
recorded
>at the Santa Monica Civic Centre in 1973.
>This site has all you could eat, feat-wise.
>
>http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=little%20feat
>
>Sorry if it's old news, it's the beer talkin'....> It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, unless
that's
> just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.

Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this is
potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible (semi current)
mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference to this
in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert a PCI card
in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever that device is,
then go to your system info, look under system resources, navigate to
hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI slots 1 or 5
is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking hard about
switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie CPU
happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x EDS cards to
operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't have all
the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all of my EDS
cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another DAW) is
something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of days, and
I'm pretty busy right now.

Deej




"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>
>
> Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does share with 5.
>
> It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set manually which
> interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing with it if
you
> use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is working fine
> so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but I never
> use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>
> It do
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> are
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>
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> caution
>
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>
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>>
>>Aaron Allen wrote:
>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Kim,
I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing with EDS. They must be
using different IRQs or the system is useless. I also couldn't
get an ati card to work at all in XP with Paris but that was two years
ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.
Tom


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:44b1a758$1@linux...


I understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian =
Tankersley
and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am running an =
NVidia
dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim W's system so =
far
seems happy with it also.

It looks as if Deej is planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also =
delve
into experimenting on this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what =
comes
of it. It's looking like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and =
graphics
cards, you can fairly much do as you please.

I'm suspicious that it's just the Matrox cards which had the issue. =
Also
I had a bad time with an ATI card there for a while. NVidia cards are =
shaping
up as the new way to go I think.

Cheers,
Kim.


"Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Guys,
>
>I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this.
>
>I've never had a problem with an EDS card sharing with my AGP device =
or
anything
>else.
>
>Maybe I've been lucky. I don't know.
>
>Also, this is very theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI =
cards don't
>even use IRQs the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is =
just for
>legacy use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and =
directly
>uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards can "really" =
use.

>The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at the hardware level. An =
IRQ number
>assigned in the bios is just a pointer to one of these "real" =
interrupts
>in case old software goes looking for an ISA device.
>
>Or, I could be completely wrong, :)
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT =
sharing
>
>>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is =
wrong
>
>>too. Pretty weird.
>>
>>You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The =

>>lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I =
put
>
>>eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and =
anything
>
>>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My =
2

>>eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or =
is it
>
>>better for each to have it's own.
>>
>>Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot =
without

>>this sharing shit !
>>
>>Horseshit I tell you.
>>
>>Kim W. wrote:
>>> Hi, John.
>>> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
>>> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
>>> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up=20
>>> screen:
>>>=20
>>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
>>> 2: EDS irq 9
>>> 3: EDS irq 7
>>> 4: EDS irq 5
>>> 5: EDS irq 10
>>>=20
>>> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
>>> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
>>>=20
>>> Is this enough info?
>>>=20
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>=20
>>> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been =
formatted
for
>>> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention =
what
agp
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot =
up
>
>>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
>>>>
>>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
>>>>
>>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
>>>>Kim W. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
>>>>>all appears to be working.
>>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
>>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
>>>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
>>>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
>>>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem =
fix,
>>>=20
>>> with
>>>=20
>>>>>wires.
>>>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.=20
>>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
>>>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going =
on,(I
>attached
>>>>>a screen grab)
>>>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
>>>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it=20
>>>>>seemed fit.
>>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the =
bios.
>>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer =
O'clock".
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this =
is
>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible =
(semi current)
>>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any =
reference
to
>>>=20
>>> this
>>>=20
>>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert =
a
PCI
>>>=20
>>> card
>>>=20
>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever =
that device
>>>>>
>>>>>is,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, =
navigate
to
>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI =
slots
>1
>>>=20
>>> or
>>>=20
>>>>>5
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be =
thinking hard
>>>=20
>>> about
>>>=20
>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie =
CPU
>>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x =
EDS
cards
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't =
have
>>>=20
>>> all
>>>=20
>>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all =
of
>my
>>>=20
>>> EDS
>>>=20
>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another =
DAW)
>>>=20
>>> is
>>>=20
>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of =
days,
>>>=20
>>> and
>>>=20
>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:44afb30d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does =
share
with
>>>>>
>>>>>5.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set =
manually
>which
>>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing =
with
it
>>>=20
>>> if
>>>=20
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is =
working
>fine
>>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example, =
but
>I
>>>=20
>>> never
>>>=20
>>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
unless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>that's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the =
manual
>>>>>>
>>>>>>states
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed =
it
>from
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt =
control (unless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>they've
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, =
which
>I
>>>>>
>>>>>use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never =
crashes.
>It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>maybe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 =
months
>now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm =
currently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>running
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that. =
It
>>>>>>
>>>>>>forgets
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the =
F6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>firmware,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card =
system
though,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had =
no issues
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>apart
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a =
MB fault
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(should
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
>>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a =
view
>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>upgrade
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
>>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and =
the K8NS
>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the =
Gigabyte.)
>>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as =
far
>as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>which
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
use,
in
>>>=20
>>> an
>>>=20
>>>>>>attempt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and =
four
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C-16's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
=
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -------=
-----
>>>>>>
>>>=20
>>>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing =
with=20
EDS.&nbsp; They must be</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using different IRQs or the system is=20
useless.&nbsp; I also couldn't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get an ati card to work at all in XP =
with Paris but=20
that was two years</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"Kim" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44b1a758$1@linux">news:44b1a758$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
I=20
understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian=20
Tankersley<BR>and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am =
running=20
an NVidia<BR>dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim =
W's=20
system so far<BR>seems happy with it also.<BR><BR>It looks as if Deej =
is=20
planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also delve<BR>into =
experimenting on=20
this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what comes<BR>of it. It's =
looking=20
like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and graphics<BR>cards, =
you can=20
fairly much do as you please.<BR><BR>I'm suspicious that it's just the =
Matrox=20
cards which had the issue. Also<BR>I had a bad time with an ATI card =
there for=20
a while. NVidia cards are shaping<BR>up as the new way to go I=20
think.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Mike Audet" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com">mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com</A>&gt;=
=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Hi Guys,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I just thought I'd throw =
my 2=20
cents in on this.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I've never had a problem with an EDS =
card=20
sharing with my AGP device =
or<BR>anything<BR>&gt;else.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Maybe=20
I've been lucky.&nbsp; I don't know.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Also, this is very =

theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI cards don't<BR>&gt;even =
use IRQs=20
the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is just =
for<BR>&gt;legacy=20
use.&nbsp; I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and=20
directly<BR>&gt;uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards =
can=20
"really" use.<BR><BR>&gt;The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at =
the=20
hardware level.&nbsp; An IRQ number<BR>&gt;assigned in the bios is =
just a=20
pointer to one of these "real" interrupts<BR>&gt;in case old software =
goes=20
looking for an ISA device.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Or, I could be completely =
wrong,=20
:)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;All the =
best,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Mike<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;John &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;Well, It =
appears=20
that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT=20
sharing<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;IRQs.&nbsp; My mx800 asus mb manual is =
wrong.&nbsp;=20
I wonder if this one is wrong<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;too.&nbsp; Pretty=20
weird.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;You should be able to assign irqs to the =
pci=20
slots in the bios.&nbsp; The <BR>&gt;&gt;lower number the higher =
priority is=20
my understanding.&nbsp; That's why I put<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;eds cards =
on=20
3.&nbsp; I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and=20
anything<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;else I'm not using.&nbsp; Sharing eds with =

anything seems a bad idea.&nbsp; My 2<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;eds are both on =
irq=20
3.&nbsp; Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is=20
it<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;better for each to have it's=20
own.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Man, is there a motherboard with =
independent irqs=20
on each slot without<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;this sharing shit=20
!<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Horseshit I tell =
you.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Kim W.=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi, John.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; I can't see the PCI =
slot=20
numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; but here is =
what I=20
have in the slots starting from the one next<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; to the =
AGP slot,=20
and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
screen:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq=20
11<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; 2: EDS irq 9<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; 3: EDS irq =
7<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
4: EDS irq 5<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; 5: EDS irq 10<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq =
10,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
ACPI controller uses irq 9.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Is this =
enough=20
info?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
Kim.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; BTW why would my brand new 250 =
gb ata=20
drive only have been formatted<BR>for<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; 130gb during XP =
install?=20
Only just noticed it.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; John=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;What slots are each card in.&nbsp; Also, their =
manual=20
didn't mention what<BR>agp<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;uses for irq and whether it shares or not.&nbsp; =
Can't you=20
tell on boot up<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;when that black resource =
screen=20
shows what's on what?<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It would =
be good=20
to know if you have 4 or 5 independent=20
=
IRQs<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;2,3,4,1/5,agp<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;I=20
run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my=20
=
box.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;John <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Kim=20
W. wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Just returned =
from "The=20
Dungeon", and am happy to report that<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;all =
appears to be=20
working.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins=20
installed.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;(In the past this is where my =
installs have=20
come unstuck.)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;After initial disappointment =
with the=20
dreaded Crash-on-<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;exit, I remembered about the =
"minimum=20
install" effects subsystem fix,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
with<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;wires.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Applying this =
seems to=20
have cured the COE. <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I'm pretty stoked at the =
moment,=20
and have ghosted.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;All slots are full, and there =
appears=20
to be some sharing going =
on,(I<BR>&gt;attached<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;a screen=20
grab)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;but time will tell if it causes any =
problems. I=20
just bunged all<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;four EDS's in, and let the =
system=20
allocate resources as it <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;seemed=20
fit.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I did, however, disable the SATA, and the =
parallel=20
port in the bios.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Time for bed, as it's been 12 =
hours=20
since I deemed it "Beer=20
O'clock".<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"DJ" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
_@animas.net</A>&gt;=20
=
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;It=20
doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
=
unless<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that's<BR >&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;just=20
assumed...?&nbsp; I know often 1 shares with=20
=
AGP.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Kim......... .=
..if=20
PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this=20
is<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;potentially a HUGE deal and this would =
be the=20
most flexible (semi current)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;mobo in =
existence=20
today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference<BR>to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =

<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; this<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;in =
the=20
Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert=20
a<BR>PCI<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; card<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the =
drivers=20
for whatever that=20
=
device<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;is, <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;then=20
go to your system info, look under system resources,=20
navigate<BR>to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;hardware resources&gt;IRQ =
and let us=20
know if the device(s) in PCI slots<BR>&gt;1<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
or<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;5<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;is/are=20
sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking=20
hard<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; about<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;switching mobo's on my Paris rig and =
trying to get=20
that duallie CPU<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;happening with my Paris =
rig. Theis=20
could conceivably allow 5 x=20
=
EDS<BR>cards<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;to<BR>&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;operate =

on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't =
have<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; all<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;the=20
componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all=20
of<BR>&gt;my<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; EDS<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;cards to a Magma chassis (which is already =
being=20
used by another DAW)<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
is<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;something that would take my entire studio =
down=20
for a couple of days,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
and<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I'm pretty busy right=20
=
now.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Deej<BR>&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;"Kim"=20
&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:44afb30d$1@linux">news:44afb30d$1@linux</A>...<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;Mine=20
doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does=20
=
share<BR>with<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;5.<BR>&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It =

has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set=20
manually<BR>&gt;which<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;inte rrupt each =
slot uses,=20
and tells you what will be sharing with<BR>it<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
if<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;you<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;use= 20
that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is=20
working<BR>&gt;fine<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;so I'm not =
concerned.=20
Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but<BR>&gt;I<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; never<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;use= 20
Paris and firewire together so that's not really a=20
=
problem.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I=
t=20
doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
=
unless<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;that's<BR >&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;just=20
assumed...?&nbsp; I know often 1 shares with=20
=
AGP.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Chee r=
s,<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Kim. <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR=
>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;John=20
&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>&gt;=20
=
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR=
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;lack=20
of interrupt control is a deal breaker for=20
=
me<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt; <BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt=
;Kim=20
=
wrote:<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;The=20
biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the=20
=
manual<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;states<BR >&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;you=20
have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed=20
=
it<BR>&gt;from<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
Re: Multi Band Mastering in Paris [message #68791 is a reply to message #68790] Wed, 31 May 2006 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
&gt;&gt=
;&gt;the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <=
BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;bios.=20
The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control=20
=
(unless<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;th=
ey've<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;added=20
it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,=20
=
which<BR>&gt;I<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;use.<BR>&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
It's<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& amp;gt;quite=20
old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never=20
=
crashes.<BR>&gt;It's<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;maybe<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;crashed=20
once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12=20
=
months<BR>&gt;now.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;My=20
motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm=20
=
currently<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;running <=
BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;on=20
the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.=20
=
It<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;forgets<BR >&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;HDD's=20
on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the=20
=
F6<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;firmware,<BR >&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;but=20
that seems=20
=
unlikely...)<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Apart=20
from that though it's great. I run only a two card=20
=
system<BR>though,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;and<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;only=20
dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no=20
=
issues<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;apa=
rt<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&am p;gt;from=20
the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB=20
=
fault<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;(should<BR >&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;take=20
it back before my warranty runs=20
=
out...).<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It's=20
quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it.=20
=
:o)<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;Cheers,<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;Kim. <BR>&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; "Kim =

W." &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>&gt;=20
=
wrote:<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Forgot=20
to mention I am running four 19"=20
monitors,<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;using AGP/PCI =
Nvidia=20
Quadro cards.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;This has =
worked well=20
with my old ASUS p4=20
=
system.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;Cheers. <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR > &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;=
"Kim=20
W." &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>&gt;=20
=
wrote:<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;Hi,=20
all.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;My Paris (win98) =
rig=20
refused to boot the other=20
day.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I bought a =
Gigabyte K8NS=20
ultra 939 some months ago, with a=20
=
view<BR>&gt;to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;upg=
rade<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& amp;gt;at=20
some stage.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It appears =
the time=20
is nigh!!<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I know many =
of you=20
have successfully migrated to XP, and the=20
K8NS<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;is one of the fave =

mobos.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;(I also have an =
Epox=20
9NDA3, in case I get grief with the=20
Gigabyte.)<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Are there =
any=20
shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as=20
=
far<BR>&gt;as<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;whic=
h<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;drivers,=20
service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
use,<BR>in<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; an<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;attempt <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;to=20
preserve what's left of my=20
hair??<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I have four EDS =
cards,=20
two MECs, (only one adat card), and=20
=
four<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR >&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;C-16's.<BR >&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Or......=20
should I stick with 98 or=20
ME???<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I remember Kim =
having=20
teething problems with this=20
combo.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Did it pan out =
for=20
=
you??<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Thanks, <BR>&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& amp;gt;Kim=20
=
#2.<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;& ;gt;&gt;&gt; <BR=
>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;------------ --------=
----------------------------------------------------<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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and=20
you?<BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
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------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C6A3A7.F87DFCB0--Danke'
AA


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44b04df7$1@linux...
> The interface is much nicer, it finds nics easily and finds my server
> network share effortlessly to put the image on.
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Define?
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44afac71$1@linux...
>>
>>>Acronis drive image kicks the ghosts butt. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlMake sure to flip both the analog in and out. Obviously digital I/O flip
will be incorrect. Also, I'd more recommend adaptors that change polarity (I
used to have to do this as Peavey and Crest I think it was were both on the
+ pin 3 thing and I got to use both in varying live rigs back when I was
doing that gig) rather than splicing up your cables. Mark them as such, I
used something like POL RVRS iirc.... whatever works for you. I still have a
few XLR types around I use to mic the bottom of drums.

AA


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44b01cba@linux...
>I need to build balanced I/O cables for the analog outputs of my Roland
> R880. The pinout calls for pin 1-ground, pin 2-cold, pin 3-hot. That's not
> the normal state of affairs around here. Everything I'm using is pin 2-hot
> and is routed to 1/4" TRS patchbays.
> These cables need to be XLR to TRS in order to interface with said
> balanced
> patchbay. From there they would be patched to other gear (with trs-trs
> patch
> cables) that is pin 2-hot. I'm guessing I'm going to have to make up a
> couple of special trs-trs patch cables to get this all strack. It's making
> my head hurt. Could someone give me a clue as to what I need to do to
> patch
> a pin 3-hot device through a balanced PB in order to interface properly
> with
> the rest of my (pin 2 hot) studio?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej (the obscure)
>
>


I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlI remember with my ATI card that XP (pre SP-1) wouldn't even load. There
was a trick I used to get around it which I don't now recall, but if you
just loaded the OS it wouldn't work even without EDS cards in the system.

Cheers,
Kim.

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Kim,
>I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing with EDS. They must be
>using different IRQs or the system is useless. I also couldn't
>get an ati card to work at all in XP with Paris but that was two years
>ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.
>Tom
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:44b1a758$1@linux...
>
>
> I understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian =
>Tankersley
> and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am running an =
>NVidia
> dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim W's system so
=
>far
> seems happy with it also.
>
> It looks as if Deej is planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also =
>delve
> into experimenting on this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what
=
>comes
> of it. It's looking like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and
=
>graphics
> cards, you can fairly much do as you please.
>
> I'm suspicious that it's just the Matrox cards which had the issue. =
>Also
> I had a bad time with an ATI card there for a while. NVidia cards are
=
>shaping
> up as the new way to go I think.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
> >
> >Hi Guys,
> >
> >I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this.
> >
> >I've never had a problem with an EDS card sharing with my AGP device
=
>or
> anything
> >else.
> >
> >Maybe I've been lucky. I don't know.
> >
> >Also, this is very theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI =
>cards don't
> >even use IRQs the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is =
>just for
> >legacy use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and =
>directly
> >uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards can "really" =
>use.
>
> >The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at the hardware level. An =
>IRQ number
> >assigned in the bios is just a pointer to one of these "real" =
>interrupts
> >in case old software goes looking for an ISA device.
> >
> >Or, I could be completely wrong, :)
> >
> >All the best,
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT =
>sharing
> >
> >>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is =
>wrong
> >
> >>too. Pretty weird.
> >>
> >>You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The
=
>
> >>lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I
=
>put
> >
> >>eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and =
>anything
> >
> >>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My
=
>2
>
> >>eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or =
>is it
> >
> >>better for each to have it's own.
> >>
> >>Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot =
>without
>
> >>this sharing shit !
> >>
> >>Horseshit I tell you.
> >>
> >>Kim W. wrote:
> >>> Hi, John.
> >>> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
> >>> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
> >>> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up=20
> >>> screen:
> >>>=20
> >>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
> >>> 2: EDS irq 9
> >>> 3: EDS irq 7
> >>> 4: EDS irq 5
> >>> 5: EDS irq 10
> >>>=20
> >>> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
> >>> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
> >>>=20
> >>> Is this enough info?
> >>>=20
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Kim.
> >>>=20
> >>> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been =
>formatted
> for
> >>> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>=20
> >>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention =
>what
> agp
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
=
>up
> >
> >>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
> >>>>
> >>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
> >>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
> >>>>
> >>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
> >>>>
> >>>>John
> >>>>
> >>>>Kim W. wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
> >>>>>all appears to be working.
> >>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
> >>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
> >>>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
> >>>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
> >>>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
=
>fix,
> >>>=20
> >>> with
> >>>=20
> >>>>>wires.
> >>>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.=20
> >>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
> >>>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going =
>on,(I
> >attached
> >>>>>a screen grab)
> >>>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
> >>>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it=20
> >>>>>seemed fit.
> >>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the =
>bios.
> >>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer =
>O'clock".
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
>unless
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>that's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this =
>is
> >>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible =
>(semi current)
> >>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any =
>reference
> to
> >>>=20
> >>> this
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
=
>a
> PCI
> >>>=20
> >>> card
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever =
>that device
> >>>>>
> >>>>>is,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, =
>navigate
> to
> >>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI =
>slots
> >1
> >>>=20
> >>> or
> >>>=20
> >>>>>5
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be =
>thinking hard
> >>>=20
> >>> about
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
=
>CPU
> >>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x =
>EDS
> cards
> >>>>>
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
=
>have
> >>>=20
> >>> all
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
=
>of
> >my
> >>>=20
> >>> EDS
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
=
>DAW)
> >>>=20
> >>> is
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of
=
>days,
> >>>=20
> >>> and
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Deej
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
>news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does =
>share
> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>5.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set =
>manually
> >which
> >>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing =
>with
> it
> >>>=20
> >>> if
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is =
>working
> >fine
> >>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
=
>but
> >I
> >>>=20
> >>> never
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
>unless
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>that's
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
=
>manual
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>states
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
=
>it
> >from
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt =
>control (unless
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>they've
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, =
>which
> >I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>use.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>It's
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never =
>crashes.
> >It's
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>maybe
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 =
>months
> >now.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm =
>currently
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>running
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
=
>It
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>forgets
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
=
>F6
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>firmware,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card =
>system
> though,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had =
>no issues
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>apart
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a =
>MB fault
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>(should
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> >>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> >>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
> >>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> >>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a
=
>view
> >to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>upgrade
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and =
>the K8NS
> >>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> >>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the =
>Gigabyte.)
> >>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as
=
>far
> >as
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>which
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
>use,
> in
> >>>=20
> >>> an
> >>>=20
> >>>>>>attempt
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> >>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
=
>four
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>C-16's.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> >>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> >>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
> >>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> =
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -------=
>-----
> >>>>>>
> >>>=20
> >>>=20
> >
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing =
>with=20
>EDS. They must be</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using different IRQs or the system is=20
>useless. I also couldn't</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get an ati card to work at all in XP =
>with Paris but=20
>that was two years</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
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> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> wrote=20
> in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44b1a758$1@linux">news:44b1a758$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
>I=20
> understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian=20
> Tankersley<BR>and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am
=
>running=20
> an NVidia<BR>dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim
=
>W's=20
> system so far<BR>seems happy with it also.<BR><BR>It looks as if Deej
=
>is=20
> planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also delve<BR>into =
>experimenting on=20
> this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what comes<BR>of it. It's =
>looking=20
> like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and graphics<BR>cards, =
>you can=20
> fairly much do as you please.<BR><BR>I'm suspicious that it's just the
=
>Matrox=20
> cards which had the issue. Also<BR>I had a bad time with an ATI card =
>there for=20
> a while. NVidia cards are shaping<BR>up as the new way to go I=20
> think.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Mike Audet" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com">mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com</A>>=
>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi Guys,<BR>><BR>>I just thought I'd throw =
>my 2=20
> cents in on this.<BR>><BR>>I've never had a problem with an EDS =
>card=20
> sharing with my AGP device =
>or<BR>anything<BR>>else.<BR>><BR>>Maybe=20
> I've been lucky. I don't know.<BR>><BR>>Also, this is very =
>
> theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI cards don't<BR>>even =
>use IRQs=20
> the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is just =
>for<BR>>legacy=20
> use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and=20
> directly<BR>>uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards =
>can=20
> "really" use.<BR><BR>>The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at =
>the=20
> hardware level. An IRQ number<BR>>assigned in the bios is =
>just a=20
> pointer to one of these "real" interrupts<BR>>in case old software =
>goes=20
> looking for an ISA device.<BR>><BR>>Or, I could be completely =
>wrong,=20
> :)<BR>><BR>>All the =
>best,<BR>><BR>>Mike<BR>><BR>>John <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>Well, It =
>appears=20
> that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT=20
> sharing<BR>><BR>>>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is =
>wrong. =20
> I wonder if this one is wrong<BR>><BR>>>too. Pretty=20
> weird.<BR>>><BR>>>You should be able to assign irqs to the =
>pci=20
> slots in the bios. The <BR>>>lower number the higher =
>priority is=20
> my understanding. That's why I put<BR>><BR>>>eds cards =
>on=20
> 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and=20
> anything<BR>><BR>>>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with =
>
> anything seems a bad idea. My 2<BR><BR>>>eds are both on =
>irq=20
> 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is=20
> it<BR>><BR>>>better for each to have it's=20
> own.<BR>>><BR>>>Man, is there a motherboard with =
>independent irqs=20
> on each slot without<BR><BR>>>this sharing shit=20
> !<BR>>><BR>>>Horseshit I tell =
>you.<BR>>><BR>>>Kim W.=20
> wrote:<BR>>>> Hi, John.<BR>>>> I can't see the PCI =
>slot=20
> numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),<BR>>>> but here is =
>what I=20
> have in the slots starting from the one next<BR>>>> to the =
>AGP slot,=20
> and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up <BR>>>>=20
> screen:<BR>>>> <BR>>>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq=20
> 11<BR>>>> 2: EDS irq 9<BR>>>> 3: EDS irq =
>7<BR>>>>=20
> 4: EDS irq 5<BR>>>> 5: EDS irq 10<BR>>>> =
><BR>>>>=20
> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq =
>10,<BR>>>>=20
> ACPI controller uses irq 9.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Is this =
>enough=20
> info?<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Cheers,<BR>>>>=20
> Kim.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> BTW why would my brand new 250 =
>gb ata=20
> drive only have been formatted<BR>for<BR>>>> 130gb during XP =
>install?=20
> Only just noticed it.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
><BR>>>> John=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their =
>manual=20
> didn't mention what<BR>agp<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. =
>Can't you=20
> tell on boot up<BR>><BR>>>>>when that black resource =
>screen=20
> shows what's on what?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>It would =
>be good=20
> to know if you have 4 or 5 independent=20
> =
>IRQs<BR>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp<BR>>>>><BR>>>>=
>>I=20
> run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my=20
> =
>box.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>John<BR>>>>><BR>&=
>gt;>>>Kim=20
> W. wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>Just returned =
>from "The=20
> Dungeon", and am happy to report that<BR>>>>>>all =
>appears to be=20
> working.<BR>>>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
> <BR>>>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins=20
> installed.<BR>>>>>>(In the past this is where my =
>installs have=20
> come unstuck.)<BR>>>>>>After initial disappointment =
>with the=20
> dreaded Crash-on-<BR>>>>>>exit, I remembered about the =
>"minimum=20
> install" effects subsystem fix,<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
> with<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>wires.<BR>>>>>>Applying this =
>seems to=20
> have cured the COE. <BR>>>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the =
>moment,=20
> and have ghosted.<BR>>>>>>All slots are full, and there =
>appears=20
> to be some sharing going =
>on,(I<BR>>attached<BR>>>>>>a screen=20
> grab)<BR>>>>>>but time will tell if it causes any =
>problems. I=20
> just bunged all<BR>>>>>>four EDS's in, and let the =
>system=20
> allocate resources as it <BR>>>>>>seemed=20
> fit.<BR>>>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the =
>parallel=20
> port in the bios.<BR>>>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 =
>hours=20
> since I deemed it "Beer=20
> O'clock".<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>"DJ" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
>_@animas.net</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
>;>>>It=20
> doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
> =
>unless<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>that's<BR>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>just=20
> assumed...? I know often 1
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shares with=20
> =
>AGP.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Kim..........=
>.if=20
> PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this=20
> is<BR>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would =
>be the=20
> most flexible (semi current)<BR>>>>>>>mobo in =
>existence=20
> today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference<BR>to<BR>>>> =
>
> <BR>>>> this<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>in =
>the=20
> Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert=20
> a<BR>PCI<BR>>>> <BR>>>> card<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the =
>drivers=20
> for whatever that=20
> =
>device<BR>
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t;BR>>>>>>=
><BR>>>>>>>is/are=20
> sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking=20
> hard<BR>>>> <BR>>>> about<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and =
>trying to get=20
> that duallie CPU<BR>>>>>>>happening with my Paris =
>rig. Theis=20
> could conceivably allow 5 x=20
> =
>EDS<BR>cards<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>to<BR>>>=
>;>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>operate =
>
> on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't =
>have<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>> all<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>the=20
> componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all=20
> of<BR>>my<BR>>>> <BR>>>> EDS<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already =
>being=20
> used by another DAW)<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
>is<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio =
>down=20
> for a couple of days,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
>and<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right=20
> =
>now.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Deej<BR>>&=
>gt;>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&g=
>t;<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>"Kim"=20
> <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:44afb30d$1@linux">news:44afb30d$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
>t;>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
>;Mine=20
> doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does=20
> =
>share<BR>with<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>5.<BR>>&g=
>t;>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>It =
>
> has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set=20
> manually<BR>>which<BR>>>>>>>>interrupt each =
>slot uses,=20
> and tells you what will be sharing with<BR>it<BR>>>> =
><BR>>>>=20
> if<BR>>>>=20
> =
><BR>>>>>>>you<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>&g=
>t;>>><BR>>>>>>>>use=20
> that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is=20
> working<BR>>fine<BR>>>>>>>>so I'm not =
>concerned.=20
> Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but<BR>>I<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>> never<BR>>>> =
><BR>>>>>>>>use=20
> Paris and firewire together so that's not really a=20
> =
>problem.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>I=
>t=20
> doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
> =
>unless<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>that's<BR>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>just=20
> assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
> =
>AGP.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>Cheer=
>s,<BR>>>>>>>>Kim.<BR>>>>>>>><BR=
>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>=
>>>>>>John=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR=
>>>>>>>>>>lack=20
> of interrupt control is a deal breaker for=20
> =
>me<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>=
>;Kim=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
>;><BR>>>>>>>>>>The=20
> biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the=20
> =
>manual<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>states<BR>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>you=20
> have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed=20
> =
>it<BR>>from<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=
>;>the<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><=
>BR>>>>>>>>>>bios.=20
> The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control=20
> =
>(unless<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>th=
>ey've<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>=
>>>>>>>>>>added=20
> it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,=20
> =
>which<BR>>I<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>use.<BR>>=
>;>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
>It's<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>&=
>gt;>>>>>>>>quite=20
> old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never=20
> =
>crashes.<BR>>It's<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&=
>gt;>>maybe<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
>gt;><BR>>>>>>>>>>crashed=20
> once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12=20
> =
>months<BR>>now.<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
>;>>>>>>My=20
> motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm=20
> =
>currently<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>running<=
>BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>>on=20
> the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.=20
> =
>It<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>forgets<BR>>=
>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
>gt;>>>HDD's=20
> on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the=20
> =
>F6<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>firmware,<BR>&g=
>t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>;>>>>but=20
> that seems=20
> =
>unlikely...)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&=
>gt;>>>>Apart=20
> from that though it's great. I run only a two card=20
> =
>system<BR>though,<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>>>and<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
>t;<BR>>>>>>>>>>only=20
> dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no=20
> =
>issues<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>apa=
>rt<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>=
>;>>>>>>>>from=20
> the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB=20
> =
>fault<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>(should<BR>&=
>gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>take=20
> it back before my warranty runs=20
> =
>out...).<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
>gt;>>>It's=20
> quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it.=20
> =
>:o)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
>t;>>Cheers,<BR>>>>>>>>>>Kim.<BR>>>=
>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>"Kim =
>
> W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=
>;>>><BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Forgot=20
> to mention I am running four 19"=20
> monitors,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI =
>Nvidia=20
> Quadro cards.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>This has =
>worked well=20
> with my old ASUS p4=20
> =
>system.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.<BR>>>>=
>;>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>=
>"Kim=20
> W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
> =
>wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>;>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>=
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi,=20
> all.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) =
>rig=20
> refused to boot the other=20
> day.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a =
>Gigabyte K8NS=20
> ultra 939 some months ago, with a=20
> =
>view<BR>>to<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>upg=
>rade<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>&=
>gt;>>>>>>>>at=20
> some stage.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears =
>the time=20
> is nigh!!<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many =
>of you=20
> have successfully migrated to XP, and the=20
> K8NS<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave =
>
> mobos.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an =
>Epox=20
> 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the=20
> Gigabyte.)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there =
>any=20
> shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as=20
> =
>far<BR>>as<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>whic=
>h<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
>>>>>>>>>drivers,=20
> service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
>use,<BR>in<BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>> an<BR>>>>=20
> =
><BR>>>>>>>attempt<BR>>>>>>><BR>>&g=
>t;>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>to=20
> preserve what's left of my=20
> hair??<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS =
>cards,=20
> two MECs, (only one adat card), and=20
> =
>four<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>C-16's.<BR>&g=
>t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
>;>>>>>>Or......=20
> should I stick with 98 or=20
> ME???<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim =
>having=20
> teething problems with this=20
> combo.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out =
>for=20
> =
>you??<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,<BR>>>&=
>gt;>>>>>>>>Kim=20
> =
>#2.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
>t;>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR=
>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>--------------------=
>----------------------------------------------------<BR>>> >>&=
>gt;><BR>>>>=20
> <BR>>>> <BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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>
>Hi Aaron.....Thanks. I ordered the Hosa adapters yesterday. Seemed like a
much better way to go about this. The thought of jacking around with a bunch
of modified patch cables didn't really appeal to me. I found them for $8.99
each so it wasn't too painful. Now I've gotta go desolder the reversed cable
ends on 4 x patch cables and resolder them to standard.. (sigh)

;o)


"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:44b1bdd2@linux...
> Make sure to flip both the analog in and out. Obviously digital I/O flip
> will be incorrect. Also, I'd more recommend adaptors that change polarity
(I
> used to have to do this as Peavey and Crest I think it was were both on
the
> + pin 3 thing and I got to use both in varying live rigs back when I was
> doing that gig) rather than splicing up your cables. Mark them as such, I
> used something like POL RVRS iirc.... whatever works for you. I still have
a
> few XLR types around I use to mic the bottom of drums.
>
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44b01cba@linux...
> >I need to build balanced I/O cables for the analog outputs of my Roland
> > R880. The pinout calls for pin 1-ground, pin 2-cold, pin 3-hot. That's
not
> > the normal state of affairs around here. Everything I'm using is pin
2-hot
> > and is routed to 1/4" TRS patchbays.
> > These cables need to be XLR to TRS in order to interface with said
> > balanced
> > patchbay. From there they would be patched to other gear (with trs-trs
> > patch
> > cables) that is pin 2-hot. I'm guessing I'm going to have to make up a
> > couple of special trs-trs patch cables to get this all strack. It's
making
> > my head hurt. Could someone give me a clue as to what I need to do to
> > patch
> > a pin 3-hot device through a balanced PB in order to interface properly
> > with
> > the rest of my (pin 2 hot) studio?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Deej (the obscure)
> >
> >
>
>
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>
>That's really a bummer. There's a Colorgraphics Xentera (4 x displays) on
EBay, but it uses the ATI chipset. I've scoped Brian T"s posts about his
super computers on the Menudo forum and he's not using the Xentera either.
It's a shame such a cool graphics card turned out to be such a bust for
audio.

Deej

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44b1c135$1@linux...
>
>
> I remember with my ATI card that XP (pre SP-1) wouldn't even load. There
> was a trick I used to get around it which I don't now recall, but if you
> just loaded the OS it wouldn't work even without EDS cards in the system.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Kim,
> >I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing with EDS. They must be
> >using different IRQs or the system is useless. I also couldn't
> >get an ati card to work at all in XP with Paris but that was two years
> >ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.
> >Tom
> >
> >
> > "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
> >news:44b1a758$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > I understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian =
> >Tankersley
> > and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am running an =
> >NVidia
> > dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim W's system so
> =
> >far
> > seems happy with it also.
> >
> > It looks as if Deej is planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also =
> >delve
> > into experimenting on this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what
> =
> >comes
> > of it. It's looking like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and
> =
> >graphics
> > cards, you can fairly much do as you please.
> >
> > I'm suspicious that it's just the Matrox cards which had the issue. =
> >Also
> > I had a bad time with an ATI card there for a while. NVidia cards are
> =
> >shaping
> > up as the new way to go I think.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
> >
> >
> > "Mike Audet" <mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >Hi Guys,
> > >
> > >I just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this.
> > >
> > >I've never had a problem with an EDS card sharing with my AGP device
> =
> >or
> > anything
> > >else.
> > >
> > >Maybe I've been lucky. I don't know.
> > >
> > >Also, this is very theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI =
> >cards don't
> > >even use IRQs the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is =
> >just for
> > >legacy use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and =
> >directly
> > >uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards can "really" =
> >use.
> >
> > >The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at the hardware level. An =
> >IRQ number
> > >assigned in the bios is just a pointer to one of these "real" =
> >interrupts
> > >in case old software goes looking for an ISA device.
> > >
> > >Or, I could be completely wrong, :)
> > >
> > >All the best,
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >
> > >John <no@no.com> wrote:
> > >>Well, It appears that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT =
> >sharing
> > >
> > >>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is wrong. I wonder if this one is =
> >wrong
> > >
> > >>too. Pretty weird.
> > >>
> > >>You should be able to assign irqs to the pci slots in the bios. The
> =
> >
> > >>lower number the higher priority is my understanding. That's why I
> =
> >put
> > >
> > >>eds cards on 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and =
> >anything
> > >
> > >>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with anything seems a bad idea. My
> =
> >2
> >
> > >>eds are both on irq 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or =
> >is it
> > >
> > >>better for each to have it's own.
> > >>
> > >>Man, is there a motherboard with independent irqs on each slot =
> >without
> >
> > >>this sharing shit !
> > >>
> > >>Horseshit I tell you.
> > >>
> > >>Kim W. wrote:
> > >>> Hi, John.
> > >>> I can't see the PCI slot numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),
> > >>> but here is what I have in the slots starting from the one next
> > >>> to the AGP slot, and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up=20
> > >>> screen:
> > >>>=20
> > >>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq 11
> > >>> 2: EDS irq 9
> > >>> 3: EDS irq 7
> > >>> 4: EDS irq 5
> > >>> 5: EDS irq 10
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq 10,
> > >>> ACPI controller uses irq 9.
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Is this enough info?
> > >>>=20
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Kim.
> > >>>=20
> > >>> BTW why would my brand new 250 gb ata drive only have been =
> >formatted
> > for
> > >>> 130gb during XP install? Only just noticed it.
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their manual didn't mention =
> >what
> > agp
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. Can't you tell on boot
> =
> >up
> > >
> > >>>>when that black resource screen shows what's on what?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>It would be good to know if you have 4 or 5 independent IRQs
> > >>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my box.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>John
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Kim W. wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Just returned from "The Dungeon", and am happy to report that
> > >>>>>all appears to be working.
> > >>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
> > >>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins installed.
> > >>>>>(In the past this is where my installs have come unstuck.)
> > >>>>>After initial disappointment with the dreaded Crash-on-
> > >>>>>exit, I remembered about the "minimum install" effects subsystem
> =
> >fix,
> > >>>=20
> > >>> with
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>wires.
> > >>>>>Applying this seems to have cured the COE.=20
> > >>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the moment, and have ghosted.
> > >>>>>All slots are full, and there appears to be some sharing going =
> >on,(I
> > >attached
> > >>>>>a screen grab)
> > >>>>>but time will tell if it causes any problems. I just bunged all
> > >>>>>four EDS's in, and let the system allocate resources as it=20
> > >>>>>seemed fit.
> > >>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the parallel port in the =
> >bios.
> > >>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 hours since I deemed it "Beer =
> >O'clock".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
> >unless
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>that's
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Kim...........if PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this =
> >is
> > >>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would be the most flexible =
> >(semi current)
> > >>>>>>mobo in existence today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any =
> >reference
> > to
> > >>>=20
> > >>> this
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>in the Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert
> =
> >a
> > PCI
> > >>>=20
> > >>> card
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the drivers for whatever =
> >that device
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>is,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>then go to your system info, look under system resources, =
> >navigate
> > to
> > >>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ and let us know if the device(s) in PCI =
> >slots
> > >1
> > >>>=20
> > >>> or
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>5
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>is/are sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be =
> >thinking hard
> > >>>=20
> > >>> about
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and trying to get that duallie
> =
> >CPU
> > >>>>>>happening with my Paris rig. Theis could conceivably allow 5 x =
> >EDS
> > cards
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>operate on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't
> =
> >have
> > >>>=20
> > >>> all
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>the componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all
> =
> >of
> > >my
> > >>>=20
> > >>> EDS
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already being used by another
> =
> >DAW)
> > >>>=20
> > >>> is
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>something that would take my entire studio down for a couple of
> =
> >days,
> > >>>=20
> > >>> and
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>I'm pretty busy right now.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Deej
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
> >news:44afb30d$1@linux...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Mine doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does =
> >share
> > with
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>5.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>It has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set =
> >manually
> > >which
> > >>>>>>>interrupt each slot uses, and tells you what will be sharing =
> >with
> > it
> > >>>=20
> > >>> if
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>you
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>use that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is =
> >working
> > >fine
> > >>>>>>>so I'm not concerned. Firewire shares with an EDS for example,
> =
> >but
> > >I
> > >>>=20
> > >>> never
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>>use Paris and firewire together so that's not really a problem.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>It doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5, =
> >unless
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>that's
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>just assumed...? I know often 1 shares with AGP.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>Kim.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>lack of interrupt control is a deal breaker for me
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>The biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the
> =
> >manual
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>states
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>you have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed
> =
> >it
> > >from
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>the
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>bios. The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt =
> >control (unless
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>they've
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>added it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6, =
> >which
> > >I
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>use.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>It's
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>quite old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never =
> >crashes.
> > >It's
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>maybe
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>crashed once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12 =
> >months
> > >now.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>My motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm =
> >currently
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>running
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>on the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.
> =
> >It
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>forgets
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>HDD's on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the
> =
> >F6
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>firmware,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>but that seems unlikely...)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Apart from that though it's great. I run only a two card =
> >system
> > though,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>and
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>only dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had =
> >no issues
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>apart
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>from the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a =
> >MB fault
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>(should
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>take it back before my warranty runs out...).
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>It's quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it. :o)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>Kim.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>Forgot to mention I am running four 19" monitors,
> > >>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI Nvidia Quadro cards.
> > >>>>>>>>>>This has worked well with my old ASUS p4 system.
> > >>>>>>>>>>Cheers.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Hi, all.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) rig refused to boot the other day.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>I bought a Gigabyte K8NS ultra 939 some months ago, with a
> =
> >view
> > >to
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>upgrade
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>at some stage.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>It appears the time is nigh!!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>I know many of you have successfully migrated to XP, and =
> >the K8NS
> > >>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave mobos.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an Epox 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the =
> >Gigabyte.)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Are there any shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as
> =
> >far
> > >as
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>which
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>drivers, service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
> >use,
> > in
> > >>>=20
> > >>> an
> > >>>=20
> > >>>>>>attempt
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>to preserve what's left of my hair??
> > >>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS cards, two MECs, (only one adat card), and
> =
> >four
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>C-16's.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Or...... should I stick with 98 or ME???
> > >>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim having teething problems with this combo.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out for you??
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Kim #2.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > =
>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ -------=
> >-----
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>=20
> > >>>=20
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had no luck with Matrox 550 sharing =
> >with=20
> >EDS. They must be</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>using different IRQs or the system is=20
> >useless. I also couldn't</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>get an ati card to work at all in XP =
> >with Paris but=20
> >that was two years</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ago on an ASUS P4 mobo.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> > wrote=20
> > in message <A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"news:44b1a758$1@linux">news:44b1a758$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
> >I=20
> > understand the Matrox cards did have an issue with this. Brian=20
> > Tankersley<BR>and Deej, among others I think, have confimed this. I am
> =
> >running=20
> > an NVidia<BR>dual head and it seems fine sharing with an EDS, and Kim
> =
> >W's=20
> > system so far<BR>seems happy with it also.<BR><BR>It looks as if Deej
> =
> >is=20
> > planning to, as the brave soldier he is, also delve<BR>into =
> >experimenting on=20
> > this MB with NVidia graphics cards and see what comes<BR>of it. It's =
> >looking=20
> > like, at least on this MB with NVidia chipset and graphics<BR>cards, =
> >you can=20
> > fairly much do as you please.<BR><BR>I'm suspicious that it's just the
> =
> >Matrox=20
> > cards which had the issue. Also<BR>I had a bad time with an ATI card =
> >there for=20
> > a while. NVidia cards are shaping<BR>up as the new way to go I=20
> > think.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR><BR>"Mike Audet" <<A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"mailto:mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com">mike@mikeF-SPAMaudet.com</A>>=
> >=20
> > wrote:<BR>><BR>>Hi Guys,<BR>><BR>>I just thought I'd throw =
> >my 2=20
> > cents in on this.<BR>><BR>>I've never had a problem with an EDS =
> >card=20
> > sharing with my AGP device =
> >or<BR>anything<BR>>else.<BR>><BR>>Maybe=20
> > I've been lucky. I don't know.<BR>><BR>>Also, this is very =
> >
> > theoretical, but my understanding is that PCI cards don't<BR>>even =
> >use IRQs=20
> > the way ISA cards used them. The BIOS assignment is just =
> >for<BR>>legacy=20
> > use. I suspect that Windows XP ignores them completely and=20
> > directly<BR>>uses the 4 interrupts (A, B, C, and D) that PCI cards =
> >can=20
> > "really" use.<BR><BR>>The PCI spec requires interrupt sharing at =
> >the=20
> > hardware level. An IRQ number<BR>>assigned in the bios is =
> >just a=20
> > pointer to one of these "real" interrupts<BR>>in case old software =
> >goes=20
> > looking for an ISA device.<BR>><BR>>Or, I could be completely =
> >wrong,=20
> > :)<BR>><BR>>All the =
> >best,<BR>><BR>>Mike<BR>><BR>>John <<A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>>Well, It =
> >appears=20
> > that agp is sharing with 2 and 1 and 5 are NOT=20
> > sharing<BR>><BR>>>IRQs. My mx800 asus mb manual is =
> >wrong. =20
> > I wonder if this one is wrong<BR>><BR>>>too. Pretty=20
> > weird.<BR>>><BR>>>You should be able to assign irqs to the =
> >pci=20
> > slots in the bios. The <BR>>>lower number the higher =
> >priority is=20
> > my understanding. That's why I put<BR>><BR>>>eds cards =
> >on=20
> > 3. I also disable parallel port, serial, usb and=20
> > anything<BR>><BR>>>else I'm not using. Sharing eds with =
> >
> > anything seems a bad idea. My 2<BR><BR>>>eds are both on =
> >irq=20
> > 3. Can you put 4 eds cards on the same irq or is=20
> > it<BR>><BR>>>better for each to have it's=20
> > own.<BR>>><BR>>>Man, is there a motherboard with =
> >independent irqs=20
> > on each slot without<BR><BR>>>this sharing shit=20
> > !<BR>>><BR>>>Horseshit I tell =
> >you.<BR>>><BR>>>Kim W.=20
> > wrote:<BR>>>> Hi, John.<BR>>>> I can't see the PCI =
> >slot=20
> > numbers on the mobo, (or in the manual),<BR>>>> but here is =
> >what I=20
> > have in the slots starting from the one next<BR>>>> to the =
> >AGP slot,=20
> > and the IRQ assignments in the black boot-up <BR>>>>=20
> > screen:<BR>>>> <BR>>>> 1: Nvidia Quadro PCI irq=20
> > 11<BR>>>> 2: EDS irq 9<BR>>>> 3: EDS irq =
> >7<BR>>>>=20
> > 4: EDS irq 5<BR>>>> 5: EDS irq 10<BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>>=20
> > Onboard audio uses irq 12, Firewire controller uses irq =
> >10,<BR>>>>=20
> > ACPI controller uses irq 9.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Is this =
> >enough=20
> > info?<BR>>>> <BR>>>> Cheers,<BR>>>>=20
> > Kim.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> BTW why would my brand new 250 =
> >gb ata=20
> > drive only have been formatted<BR>for<BR>>>> 130gb during XP =
> >install?=20
> > Only just noticed it.<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>> John=20
> > <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>What slots are each card in. Also, their =
> >manual=20
> > didn't mention what<BR>agp<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>uses for irq and whether it shares or not. =
> >Can't you=20
> > tell on boot up<BR>><BR>>>>>when that black resource =
> >screen=20
> > shows what's on what?<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>It would =
> >be good=20
> > to know if
Re: Multi Band Mastering in Paris [message #68795 is a reply to message #68785] Wed, 31 May 2006 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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you have 4 or 5 independent=20
> > =
> >IRQs<BR>>>>>2,3,4,1/5,agp<BR>>>>><BR>>>>=
> >>I=20
> > run my 2 eds cards on the same IRQ 3 on my=20
> > =
> >box.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>John<BR>>>>><BR>&=
> >gt;>>>Kim=20
> > W. wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>Just returned =
> >from "The=20
> > Dungeon", and am happy to report that<BR>>>>>>all =
> >appears to be=20
> > working.<BR>>>>>>(4 EDS's, 2 Nvidia Qudras).=20
> > <BR>>>>>>Thus far I have no DX/VST plugins=20
> > installed.<BR>>>>>>(In the past this is where my =
> >installs have=20
> > come unstuck.)<BR>>>>>>After initial disappointment =
> >with the=20
> > dreaded Crash-on-<BR>>>>>>exit, I remembered about the =
> >"minimum=20
> > install" effects subsystem fix,<BR>>>> <BR>>>>=20
> > with<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>wires.<BR>>>>>>Applying this =
> >seems to=20
> > have cured the COE. <BR>>>>>>I'm pretty stoked at the =
> >moment,=20
> > and have ghosted.<BR>>>>>>All slots are full, and there =
> >appears=20
> > to be some sharing going =
> >on,(I<BR>>attached<BR>>>>>>a screen=20
> > grab)<BR>>>>>>but time will tell if it causes any =
> >problems. I=20
> > just bunged all<BR>>>>>>four EDS's in, and let the =
> >system=20
> > allocate resources as it <BR>>>>>>seemed=20
> > fit.<BR>>>>>>I did, however, disable the SATA, and the =
> >parallel=20
> > port in the bios.<BR>>>>>>Time for bed, as it's been 12 =
> >hours=20
> > since I deemed it "Beer=20
> > O'clock".<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>"DJ" <<A=20
> > =
>
>href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net">animix_spam-this-ahole=
> >_@animas.net</A>>=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
> >;>>>It=20
> > doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
> > =
> >unless<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>that's<BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>just=20
> > assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
> > =
> >AGP.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Kim..........=
> >.if=20
> > PCI 1 and 5 "do not" share with the AGP, this=20
> > is<BR>>>>>>>potentially a HUGE deal and this would =
> >be the=20
> > most flexible (semi current)<BR>>>>>>>mobo in =
> >existence=20
> > today for 939 CPU's. I cannot find any reference<BR>to<BR>>>> =
> >
> > <BR>>>> this<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>in =
> >the=20
> > Gigabyte manual. When/if it is possible, could you insert=20
> > a<BR>PCI<BR>>>> <BR>>>> card<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>in slot 1 or 5 (or both), then load the =
> >drivers=20
> > for whatever that=20
> > =
> >device<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>is,<BR>>>>=
> >>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>then=20
> > go to your system info, look under system resources,=20
> > navigate<BR>to<BR>>>>>>>hardware resources>IRQ =
> >and let us=20
> > know if the device(s) in PCI slots<BR>>1<BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>>=20
> > or<BR>>>>=20
> > =
> ><BR>>>>>>5<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> ><BR>>>>>>>is/are=20
> > sharing an IRQ with the AGP? If not, I'm gonna be thinking=20
> > hard<BR>>>> <BR>>>> about<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>switching mobo's on my Paris rig and =
> >trying to get=20
> > that duallie CPU<BR>>>>>>>happening with my Paris =
> >rig. Theis=20
> > could conceivably allow 5 x=20
> > =
> >EDS<BR>cards<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>to<BR>>>=
> >;>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>operate =
> >
> > on a dual core Athlon. I would do this here, but I don't =
> >have<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>> all<BR>>>> <BR>>>>>>>the=20
> > componentry that I need yet and the ergonomics of moving all=20
> > of<BR>>my<BR>>>> <BR>>>> EDS<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>cards to a Magma chassis (which is already =
> >being=20
> > used by another DAW)<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
> >is<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>something that would take my entire studio =
> >down=20
> > for a couple of days,<BR>>>> <BR>>>> =
> >and<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>>>>>I'm pretty busy right=20
> > =
> >now.<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>Deej<BR>>&=
> >gt;>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&g=
> >t;<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>"Kim"=20
> > <<A =
> >href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> >=20
> > wrote in message <A=20
> > =
> >href=3D"news:44afb30d$1@linux">news:44afb30d$1@linux</A>...<BR>>>&g=
> >t;>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
> >;Mine=20
> > doesn't show that it's sharing with AGP, though 1 does=20
> > =
> >share<BR>with<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>5.<BR>>&g=
> >t;>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>It =
> >
> > has a BIOS window you can go to which allows you to set=20
> > manually<BR>>which<BR>>>>>>>>interrupt each =
> >slot uses,=20
> > and tells you what will be sharing with<BR>it<BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>>=20
> > if<BR>>>>=20
> > =
> ><BR>>>>>>>you<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>&g=
> >t;>>><BR>>>>>>>>use=20
> > that one. I have some things sharing, but everything is=20
> > working<BR>>fine<BR>>>>>>>>so I'm not =
> >concerned.=20
> > Firewire shares with an EDS for example, but<BR>>I<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>> never<BR>>>> =
> ><BR>>>>>>>>use=20
> > Paris and firewire together so that's not really a=20
> > =
> >problem.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>I=
> >t=20
> > doesn't say on mine that the AGP card is sharing with 1/5,=20
> > =
> >unless<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>that's<BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>just=20
> > assumed...? I know often 1 shares with=20
> > =
> >AGP.<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>Cheer=
> >s,<BR>>>>>>>>Kim.<BR>>>>>>>><BR=
> >>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>=
> >>>>>>John=20
> > <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>>=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR=
> >>>>>>>>>>lack=20
> > of interrupt control is a deal breaker for=20
> > =
> >me<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>=
> >;Kim=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
> >;><BR>>>>>>>>>>The=20
> > biggest pitfall I found with the K8NS was that while the=20
> > =
> >manual<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>states<BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>>>you=20
> > have pretty good interrupt control, they actually removed=20
> > =
> >it<BR>>from<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=
> >;>the<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><=
> >BR>>>>>>>>>>bios.=20
> > The latest BIOS which gives you proper interrupt control=20
> > =
> >(unless<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>th=
> >ey've<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>=
> >>>>>>>>>>added=20
> > it back - haven't checked for months) is version F6,=20
> > =
> >which<BR>>I<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>use.<BR>>=
> >;>>>><BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>=
> >It's<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>>>>>quite=20
> > old but I haven't had any issues. The thing never=20
> > =
> >crashes.<BR>>It's<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&=
> >gt;>>maybe<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
> >gt;><BR>>>>>>>>>>crashed=20
> > once or twice since I've had it, which is about 12=20
> > =
> >months<BR>>now.<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
> >;>>>>>>My=20
> > motherboard seems to have a quirk in the BIOS and I'm=20
> > =
> >currently<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>running<=
> >BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>&g=
> >t;>>>>>on=20
> > the backup BIOS on the board, but she runs fine like that.=20
> > =
> >It<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>forgets<BR>>=
> >>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
> >gt;>>>HDD's=20
> > on startup. Not sure why... (unless it's a quirk of the=20
> > =
> >F6<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>firmware,<BR>&g=
> >t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> >;>>>>but=20
> > that seems=20
> > =
> >unlikely...)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&=
> >gt;>>>>Apart=20
> > from that though it's great. I run only a two card=20
> > =
> >system<BR>though,<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> >>>and<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
> >t;<BR>>>>>>>>>>only=20
> > dual head video (A Nvidia card currently) but have had no=20
> > =
> >issues<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>apa=
> >rt<BR>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>><BR>>=
> >;>>>>>>>>from=20
> > the BIOS losing hdd's on startup which appears to be a MB=20
> > =
> >fault<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>(should<BR>&=
> >gt;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>>>take=20
> > it back before my warranty runs=20
> > =
> >out...).<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>&=
> >gt;>>>It's=20
> > quick though, and very stable. I'm happy with it.=20
> > =
> >:o)<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>Cheers,<BR>>>>>>>>>>Kim.<BR>>>=
> >>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>"Kim =
> >
> > W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>=
> >;>>><BR>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>=
> >>>>>>>Forgot=20
> > to mention I am running four 19"=20
> > monitors,<BR>>>>>>>>>>>using AGP/PCI =
> >Nvidia=20
> > Quadro cards.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>This has =
> >worked well=20
> > with my old ASUS p4=20
> > =
> >system.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers.<BR>>>>=
> >;>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>=
> >"Kim=20
> > W." <<A href=3D"mailto:no@way.com">no@way.com</A>>=20
> > =
> >wrote:<BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> >;>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>=
> >>>>>>>>>>>Hi,=20
> > all.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>My Paris (win98) =
> >rig=20
> > refused to boot the other=20
> > day.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I bought a =
> >Gigabyte K8NS=20
> > ultra 939 some months ago, with a=20
> > =
> >view<BR>>to<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>upg=
> >rade<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>&=
> >gt;>>>>>>>>at=20
> > some stage.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>It appears =
> >the time=20
> > is nigh!!<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I know many =
> >of you=20
> > have successfully migrated to XP, and the=20
> > K8NS<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>is one of the fave =
> >
> > mobos.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>(I also have an =
> >Epox=20
> > 9NDA3, in case I get grief with the=20
> > Gigabyte.)<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Are there =
> >any=20
> > shortcuts that you guys could throw my way as=20
> > =
> >far<BR>>as<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>whic=
> >h<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>=
> >>>>>>>>>drivers,=20
> > service packs, XP tweaks, I should or shouldn't =
> >use,<BR>in<BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>> an<BR>>>>=20
> > =
> ><BR>>>>>>>attempt<BR>>>>>>><BR>>&g=
> >t;>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>>>to=20
> > preserve what's left of my=20
> > hair??<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I have four EDS =
> >cards,=20
> > two MECs, (only one adat card), and=20
> > =
> >four<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>C-16's.<BR>&g=
> >t;>>>>><BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>=
> >;>>>>>>Or......=20
> > should I stick with 98 or=20
> > ME???<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>I remember Kim =
> >having=20
> > teething problems with this=20
> > combo.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Did it pan out =
> >for=20
> > =
> >you??<BR>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,<BR>>>&=
> >gt;>>>>>>>>Kim=20
> > =
> >#2.<BR>>>>>>>>>>>><BR>>>>>&g=
> >t;>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>>>>><BR=
> >>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>--------------------=
> >----------------------------------------------------<BR>>> >>&=
> >gt;><BR>>>>=20
> > <BR>>>> <BR>><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
> >and=20
> >you?<BR><A=20
>
>href=3D"http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html">http://www.polesoft.com/refer=
> >.html</A> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> >
>http://www.wolfgangsvault.com

Wolfgang Grajonca, aka Bill Graham, was a notorious obsessive. But
he loved what he did, and we are now all his beneficiaries because
one of his obsessions was that he kept everything from all his
shows. Everything.

It was all stashed in a warehouse; nobody even knew what was
there, and after Graham died in a helicopter crash in 1991 nobody
knew what to do with it, or didn't want to invest the time to find out
what was there. After passing thru several owners, businessman &
music fan Bill Sagan bought the whole 'mess' for about $1.5 million.
It was piled over 25 feet high in that warehouse. It took
TWENTY-FIVE tractor trailer rigs to carry it all to its new home
where Sagan began digging thru and cataloging what he'd bought.

He found:


Original Contracts signed by the artists
Mint condition super-rare posters; some worth $15k each today
Handbills
Unused tickets
Over a million slides, negatives and photographs.

Then one day while poking thru it Sagan found what he'd never even
dreamed of: Bill Graham had even saved the concerts themselves.
He'd made video & high res audio recordings of thousands of shows!
Sagan is not even sure, but it might be over 7,000 recordings in
number.

He is selling some of it thru the above website. He is also making
available "Vault Radio" where you can click on the link and listen
(free) to some of those recordings in a rotation that includes dozens
of those recordings.

Just click on "vault radio" Priceless....

DCSide note dude.... if you're using blackface adats they suffer from similar
problems. The digital I/O is phase correct, HOWEVER, alesis saw fit to put
the signal to tape out of phase and then re-invert on the return trip. Makes
things real interesting if you have a different adat type and start additional
dubs or punch ins to an unfinished product from another studio on the same
tape :P

AA


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Hi Aaron.....Thanks. I ordered the Hosa adapters yesterday. Seemed like
a
>much better way to go about this. The thought of jacking around with a bunch
>of modified patch cables didn't really appeal to me. I found them for $8.99
>each so it wasn't too painful. Now I've gotta go desolder the reversed cable
>ends on 4 x patch cables and resolder them to standard.. (sigh)
>
>;o)
>
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:44b1bdd2@linux...
>> Make sure to flip both the analog in and out. Obviously digital I/O flip
>> will be incorrect. Also, I'd more recommend adaptors that change polarity
>(I
>> used to have to do this as Peavey and Crest I think it was were both on
>the
>> + pin 3 thing and I got to use both in varying live rigs back when I was
>> doing that gig) rather than splicing up your cables. Mark them as such,
I
>> used something like POL RVRS iirc.... whatever works for you. I still
have
>a
>> few XLR types around I use to mic the bottom of drums.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:44b01cba@linux...
>> >I need to build balanced I/O cables for the analog outputs of my Roland
>> > R880. The pinout calls for pin 1-ground, pin 2-cold, pin 3-hot. That's
>not
>> > the normal state of affairs around here. Everything I'm using is pin
>2-hot
>> > and is routed to 1/4" TRS patchbays.
>> > These cables need to be XLR to TRS in order to interface with said
>> > balanced
>> > patchbay. From there they would be patched to other gear (with trs-trs
>> > patch
>> > cables) that is pin 2-hot. I'm guessing I'm going to have to make up
a
>> > couple of special trs-trs patch cables to get this all strack. It's
>making
>> > my head hurt. Could someone give me a clue as to what I need to do to
>> > patch
>> > a pin 3-hot device through a balanced PB in order to interface properly
>> > with
>> > the rest of my (pin 2 hot) studio?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Deej (the obscure)
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
>
>What would a decent USB interface be?

The wavelab I have allows effects on the master.


Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Cujo and John,
>Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all on
>board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
>sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
>Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
>Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that is a

>stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
>competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in end
>of August.
>
>In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
>sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send volume

>control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
>chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use outboard

>gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Cujo wrote:
>> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and it
is
>> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each "track"
>> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time inbetween
>> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add UAD
plugs
>> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now, I would
>> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD EXACTLY
how
>> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses Roxio
>> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and you
can
>> not nudge..
>>
>> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked on that
>> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using WL the
>> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some strange
EQ
>> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the mix
in
>> WL!
>>
>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab, what's
>>
>>
>>>this montage thing?
>>>
>>>cujo wrote:
>>>
>>>>For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can do all
>>
>> the
>>
>>>>songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping so
>>
>> I wondered
>>
>>>>if it was the more "pro" option.
>>>>
>>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
>>>>>
>>>>>cujo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug you
place
>>>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode permanently
>>>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a seperate
>>
>> bunch
>>
>>>>>>of files?
>>>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762I'm surprised your 880 has a fan in it....mine does not.

Analog I/O on this thing sounds very good IMO...better than you might expect
considering the age of it.

Another solution is to make (6) (R880 has 2 ins and 4 outs IIRC) 1 foot lengths
of XLR-XLR cables with the polarity swapped. Connect these to your 880, and
then, connect your snake to them. This would make your 880 appear to be pin
2 hot to your patch bay.

Cheers

Kris
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>........or, I could keep the Mogami snake *as is* and just make two TRS
>Patch cables (for patching this particular dievice) wired tip to ring and
>ring to tip. That might be a better solution for my particular situation
>actually. I may not end up using the analog I/O of the R880 all that much
>and it's very possible that I might want to run this long snake to a certain
>device that I've got my eye on. It's got a fan in the chassis so I will
need
>to keep it in the machine room. I think it's wired with standard US
>polarity.
>
>;o)
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:44b04210$1@linux...
>> It is a 20' cable run from the rack that is housing the R880 mainframe
to
>> the standard balanced patch bay. Seems a shame to use 80' of mic cable
to
>> make 4 x 20' patch cables when I've got a 20' 4 x pair standard polarity
>> Mogami XLR-TRS snake sitting here doing nothing.....sooooo........ I could
>> modify the standard mogami cable by taking the lead from the ring
>(currently
>> tied to XLR pin 3 and swapping it to XLR pin 2, then take the lead from
>the
>> tip (currently tied to XLR pin 2) and swap it to XLR pin 3.. That oughta'
>> get me there, right?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>> news:44b037d8$1@linux...
>> >
>> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> > >I need to build balanced I/O cables for the analog outputs of my
>Roland
>> > >R880. The pinout calls for pin 1-ground, pin 2-cold, pin 3-hot. That's
>> not
>> > >the normal state of affairs around here. Everything I'm using is pin
>> 2-hot
>> > >and is routed to 1/4" TRS patchbays.
>> > >These cables need to be XLR to TRS in order to interface with said
>> balanced
>> > >patchbay. From there they would be patched to other gear (with trs-trs
>> patch
>> > >cables) that is pin 2-hot. I'm guessing I'm going to have to make up
a
>> > >couple of special trs-trs patch cables to get this all strack. It's
>> making
>> > >my head hurt. Could someone give me a clue as to what I need to do
to
>> patch
>> > >a pin 3-hot device through a balanced PB in order to interface properly
>> > with
>> > >the rest of my (pin 2 hot) studio?
>> > >
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >Deej (the obscure)
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > In this case you can reverse either end. I keep some colored shrink
>tubing
>> > around to mark non-normal cables. Personally I reverse at the XLR,
>because
>> > it's easier to reverse.
>> > Gene
>> >
>>
>>
>
>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
news:44b265f3$1@linux...
>
>
> What would a decent USB interface be?
>
> The wavelab I have allows effects on the master.
>

external FX???.....if so, then you are using the most recent version.

> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> >Hi Cujo and John,
> >Your low mid bump is a result of horrible converter quality of all on
> >board sound cards. I wouldn't trust any use of EQ with the on board
> >sound cards. There are some very inexpensive audio PCI , USB and
> >Firewire cards available that will make a big difference.
> >Also Steinberg is putting out a mid=priced version of Wavelab that is a
>
> >stereo only very and no DVD support which will go for 299.00 and a
> >competitive upgrade version for 199.00. It will probably be out in end
> >of August.
> >
> >In the full version you be able to place a effects on th master
> >sections, individual tracks and on individual clips all with send volume
>
> >control. Oh and you can also us external effect nay were in the effect
> >chain just like you can in Cubase/Nuendo. This way you can use outboard
>
> >gear or even Paris effects directly inside of Wavelab.
> >
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >Cujo wrote:
> >> John, I have WL Essentials which is somehting like 99.00 bucks and it
> is
> >> way cool. The montage thing is a cd sequencer, you can lay out each
"track"
> >> in a linear fasion, and slide songs back and forth to make the time
inbetween
> >> just as you want them, you can also aply fades, adjust volume, add UAD
> plugs
> >> to the mix (presision limite) really it is a mastering suite. Now, I
would
> >> bot master a dang thing, but I got it so I could sequence a CD EXACTLY
> how
> >> i want it before I send it to the mastering house. Say if you uses
Roxio
> >> for rough cd;s you only can do 2 second intervals or whatever, and you
> can
> >> not nudge..
> >>
> >> Ok, so right now I am mastering something, an R&B record I worked on
that
> >> has NO budget., it is sort of liek a hip hop mix tape. When using WL
the
> >> output goes via my Comps on board sound card in there is some strange
> EQ
> >> thing going on there, (low mid bump) so I can;t use any EQ on the mix
> in
> >> WL!
> >>
> >> John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Cujo, What kind of multiple song things can you do in wavelab, what's
> >>
> >>
> >>>this montage thing?
> >>>
> >>>cujo wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>For years I have used CEP and it is a snap, but with WL you can do all
> >>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>>songs on a cd in one go, and it offers a bit more in noise shaping so
> >>
> >> I wondered
> >>
> >>>>if it was the more "pro" option.
> >>>>
> >>>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I was using the free dither app written for paris.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>cujo wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Which do you prefer for dithering: CEP or Wavelab with the plug you
> place
> >>>>>>on the master bus on the montage mode?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Also does the render button on the effects group in Montage mode
permanently
> >>>>>>change the individual files or does it save the new CD as a seperate
> >>
> >> bunch
> >>
> >>>>>>of files?
> >>>>>>I don't know if I am making sense here.
> >
> >--
> >Chris Ludwig
> >ADK
> >chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> >www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> >(859) 635-5762Oh, and BTW, you only need to worry about polarity if you're going to interface
to unbalanced gear. Otherwise, its no problem...

Cheers,

Kris

"Kris" . wrote:
>
>I'm surprised your 880 has a fan in it....mine does not.
>
>Analog I/O on this thing sounds very good IMO...better than you might expect
>considering the age of it.
>
>Another solution is to make (6) (R880 has 2 ins and 4 outs IIRC) 1 foot
lengths
>of XLR-XLR cables with the polarity swapped. Connect these to your 880,
and
>then, connect your snake to them. This would make your 880 appear to be
pin
>2 hot to your patch bay.
>
>Cheers
>
>Kris
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>........or, I could keep the Mogami snake *as is* and just make two TRS
>>Patch cables (for patching this particular dievice) wired tip to ring and
>>ring to tip. That might be a better solution for my particular situation
>>actually. I may not end up using the analog I/O of the R880 all that much
>>and it's very possible that I might want to run this long snake to a certain
>>device that I've got my eye on. It's got a fan in the chassis so I will
>need
>>to keep it in the machine room. I think it's wired with standard US
>>polarity.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>news:44b04210$1@linux...
>>> It is a 20' cable run from the rack that is housing the R880 mainframe
>to
>>> the standard balanced patch bay. Seems a shame to use 80' of mic cable
>to
>>> make 4 x 20' patch cables when I've got a 20' 4 x pair standard polarity
>>> Mogami XLR-TRS snake sitting here doing nothing.....sooooo........ I
could
>>> modify the standard mogami cable by taking the lead from the ring
>
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