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paris spdif [message #66519]

Tue, 11 April 2006 11:22

Fred
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Re: paris spdif [message #66521 is a reply to message #66519]

Tue, 11 April 2006 11:23

Deej [1]

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> >>>
>>
>yeah, they're a lot like kids aren't they.

On Wed, 3 May 2006 19:38:30 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:

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Re: paris spdif [message #66523 is a reply to message #66521]

Tue, 11 April 2006 11:52

Rich[3]
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gt;>
>>>>>>>I made some heavy tests here...
>>>>>>>Paris eds effects react different (sound different) under Me than
in
>>>XP.
>>>>>>>Now that is most interesting.
>>>>>>>I checked with a B3 file and Big Eq from Paris.
>>>>>>>Turning all the way up to 20 under Me gave a fat distorted sound.
>>>>>>>XP !
>>>>>>>Overall Me (well Paris under Me) so

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Re: paris spdif [message #66524 is a reply to message #66523]

Tue, 11 April 2006 11:59

Fred
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unds fatter and distorts more
>>>>>>>easily...
>>>>>>>Please if you have a second bay disk with me and Xp try a file to
hear
>>>>>what
>>>>>>>you get ...
>>>>>>>I am very very curious and shocked...
>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: paris spdif [message #66531 is a reply to message #66521]

Tue, 11 April 2006 12:19

Fred
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Re: paris spdif [message #66557 is a reply to message #66531]

Tue, 11 April 2006 19:02

Edna Sloan

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Re: paris spdif [message #66611 is a reply to message #66557]

Wed, 12 April 2006 08:42

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>>>>> be the same for other frequencies) and the output level is set at
>>>>> maximum,
>>>>> UNDER ME there is a HOT HOT output well into severe "tube" distortion
>>>
>>>>> thing
>>>>> as opposed to XP which remains natural (well some distortion there
>>>>> too).
>>>>> PLease note ONLY the forst EQ slot behaves like this !!!
>>>>> I could not replicate this effect with other eq slots.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I believe the Paris drivers may make Paris act differently, maybe
>>> XP
>>>>> drivers are better ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I don't know what other things "sound" different beetween the two
>>> but
>>>>> I am willing to investigate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps a little bit more.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dimitrios
>>>>>
>>>>> "Paul" <pn@nc.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Opps I meant to say hotter on the ME file.
>>>>>>Damn I need a proffreeder. ;-}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Paul" <pn@nc.nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sound like the level is hotter on the XP file. This might be
>>>>>>>reaching
>>>>> a
>>>>>>bit,
>>>>>>>but have you verified that the levels (pro/semi pro) on the MEC
>>>>>>>mod

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Re: paris spdif [message #66618 is a reply to message #66611]

Wed, 12 April 2006 10:14

Fred
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gt;>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thats right !
>>>>>>>>>We are talking here about the Paris graphic eq.
>>>>>>>>>I would like anyone's input here.
>>>>>>>>>I have made the test almost ten times !
>>>>>>>>>Changing the cad disk bay from XP to Me and loading the same project
>>>>>on
>>>>>>>> both...
>>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Just to be clear. there is the Paris eds eq, Paris vst emulation
>of
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>eds
>>>>>>>>>>eq (by Matt Craig), Freak Q, and Barb-A-Q. Which of those are you
>>> talking
>>>>>>>>>>about?
>>>>>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>What's Paris "Big" EQ?
>>>>>>>>>>>I think I remember checking this when I switched to xp and the
>
>>>>>>>>>>>files
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>nulled
>>>>>>>>>>>(I'm pretty anal about this stuff)but it's been so long I can't
>say
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>The memory starts going. If I get some time I will check it again.
>>>>>>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>>>

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Re: paris spdif [message #66621 is a reply to message #66618]

Wed, 12 April 2006 11:09

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e way...sorry your sick dude

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>What do you mean by "backwards"?
>Rod
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Is it just me, on a side note, or does the backwards EQ implimentation
still
>
>>make anyone else nuts?
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:445a00fb$1@linux...
>>>
>>> OK, I have been out of the loop since yesterday. I'm going to give this
>a
>>> try today if I get the chance, since I've got duplicate ME and XP drives
>>> in a removable bay.
>>> I remember a couple of years ago (maybe more) involving BT and Sakis
(I
>
>>> think)about
>>> this very bug in the 1st freq slot of the graphic eq.
>>> Rod
>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Dear Aaron,
>>>>I arrised misunderstanding here and a huge on !!
>>>>
>>>>NO PLUGIN neither native nor EDS !!
>>>>
>>>>Just PLAIN Paris onboard eq.
>>>>You know the graphic eq !!
>>>>
>>>>Whatever else you have found on XP that is strange opposed to Me please
>>> take
>>>>note.
>>>>We have to gather that info.
>>>>
>>>>I hope I made a little bit clearier now.
>>>>right ?
>>>>Rgards,
>>>>DimitriosKnocking under acceleration generally points to a con-rod bearing...
deceleration, a wrist pin.

David.

DJ wrote:
>>What does "sucked a valve" mean?
>
>
> It's an old Texas generality meaning "I'm not sure WTF is going on until I
> look but copuld be either a broken valve, burned valve, a worn or broken
> camshaft, bent or worn out push rods bad hydraulic lifters or some
> combination of all of the above. It could be even worse.....crankshaft woes.
> All fluid levels are normal, but when I accellerate it sounds like a small
> jackhammer is doing a number under the hood. It gets louder until I get to
> between 2500 and 3000 RPM, then it stops when the automatic tranny shifts,
> then it stops....then when the RPM's have dropped below 2500 RPM, it starts

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Re: paris spdif [message #66623 is a reply to message #66531]

Wed, 12 April 2006 10:57

Deej [1]

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way as
ME
>on the setting you described. I'm still testing, but I can hear the difference,
>it's pretty big. I tested on eds 1 and eds 2. Same result. I will post later
>after I test more and do some nulling tests but, I can tell there's a difference
>right now.
>RodSo does Paris sound different from win98 to Me ? How about in Windows for
workgroups or on Mac ?

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Thank you for testing pal !
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>D....I did the test. Your right man, xp doesn't distort the same way as
>ME
>>on the setting you described. I'm still testing, but I can hear the difference,
>>it's pretty big. I test

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Re: paris spdif [message #66636 is a reply to message #66623]

Wed, 12 April 2006 19:07

Edna Sloan

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/> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aloop on a Paris audio track.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I pushed the level up to 10and had submix -8.1
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was monitoring via monitor outputs and had the
> >monitor
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>level -12.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No on Paris BigEqI had thsi filter highpass at 260Hz
> >and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lowpass
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>at
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>5247,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trimmer AT FULL 20 !!
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This makes all the diffrence now beetween Me and XP.
> >> >>>>>>>>>

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Re: paris spdif [message #66638 is a reply to message #66636]

Wed, 12 April 2006 20:31

Tom Bruhl

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t;>>>>>>>>Now on Me with closed EQ we have the same sound (is
> it
> >> >?)
> >> >>>> but
> >> >>>>>>>> when
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>eq
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>engaged with that full +20 there is sever distortion
> >and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loudness
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fatness.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Go figure...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can please someone with both XP and Me partitions
check
> >> >>this
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>please
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When I was first using Me for some months and then
> >switched
> >> >>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>> XP
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>I
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remember
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that the sound was different to my ears but I said
> to
> >> myself
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>well,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>yor
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ears
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>must be wrong...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now that makes me wonder if many things act
differently
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>under
> >> >>>>>>>> XP!
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dimitrios
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I made some heavy tests here...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Paris eds effects react different (sound different)
> >under
> >> >>>> Me
> >> >>>>>>>> than
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>in
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>XP.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now that is most interesting.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I checked with a B3 file and Big Eq from Paris.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Turning all the way up to 20 under Me gave a fat
> >distorted
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sound.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>XP !
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Overall Me (well Paris under Me) sounds fatter and
> >distorts
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>more
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>easily...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Please if you have a second bay disk with me and Xp
> >try
> >> >>a
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>file
> >> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>hear
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>what
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you get ...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am very very curious and shocked...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dimitrios
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >&

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Re: paris spdif [message #66639 is a reply to message #66638]

Wed, 12 April 2006 21:04

Edna Sloan

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Registered: October 2005

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gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >> >>>>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>.....and, if I could get multiple ADAT modules working properly in 3 x MECs,
I'd likely be running Paris on XP. I liked it.

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:445a3757@linux...
> Rod,
>
> IIRC, to me, it was more about the *feel* of the app under XP than a huge
> difference in the sound.
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:445a35a3$1@linux...
> >
> > DJ still testing, but I did a mix bounce on XP and then on ME, no fx but
> did
> > have eq's on. about 30 tracks. I thought in totally nulled, but there is
> > some difference Waaayy down there that became audible when listen with
> everything
> > (Passive volume and Paris monitor knob) all the way up. But I'd say for
> all
> > normal purposes, it nulled.
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> > >How interesting this is. I've been using ME exclusively for over a year
> > now
> > >due to the necessity of having multiple ADAT modules per MEC. I always
> > >thought that Paris sounded a bit different when running it on XP but I
> > had
> > >added a DAC-1 to my studio around the time that I started using XP and
I
> > >thought that was the reason. Then I added a WC and the sound changed a
> bit
> > >yet again. When I went back to ME, I noticed something that seemed a
bit
> > >different. It wasn't significant enough to affect the way I was
working
> > and
> > >I thought it was just my imagination.
> > >
> > >
> > >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >news:445a1e15$1@linux...
> > >>
> > >> Oh yeah, I double checked my outputs. they're the same on ME as XP.
I'm
> > >using
> > >> the spdif out into a Benchmark DAC, word clock'd to a Lucid GenX. The
> > only
> > >> difference is, I set my Monitor outs to zero, (I use a passive volume
> > >control
> > >> for final level) because I thought your -12 might be playing into the
> > >equation,
> > >> but it still was a WAY different type and amount of distortion.
> > >> Good sleuthing, dude!
> > >> Rod
> > >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >D....I did the test. Your right man, xp doesn't distort the same way
> > as
> > >> ME
> > >> >on the setting you described. I'm still testing, but I can hear the
> > >difference,
> > >> >it's pretty big. I tested on eds 1 and eds 2. Same result. I will
post
> > >later
> > >> >after I test more and do some nulling tests but, I can tell there's
a
> > >difference
> > >> >right now.
> > >> >Rod
> > >> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Dear Aaron,
> > >> >>Yes all over !
> > >> >>
> > >> >>I know this finding might seem as unusable but this is an
indication
> > to
> > >> >me
> > >> >>at least that Paris reacts different under Me than XP.
> > >> >>So maybe except that extreme Eq setting there is also subtle
> difference
> > >> >in
> > >> >>sound when using onboard effects as well as DX/VST.
> > >> >>Regards,
> > >> >>Dimitrios
> > >> >>
> > >> >>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> > >> >>>I'm full on XP here, but I have a removable sled. I could build
> another
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>drive if today goes like I think it's going to. (Home sick)
> > >> >>>You got the same result all over?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>AA
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> > >news:445a009a$1@linux...
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Dear Aaron,
> > >> >>>> I tried on other audio tracks on same eds card and on all other
> three
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>> cards
> > >> >>>> I have (total four) all act the same distortion under Me.
> > >> >>>> Are you using Me ?
> > >> >>>> If so please try ...
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Regards,
> > >> >>>> Dimitrios
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wro

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Re: paris spdif [message #66640 is a reply to message #66639]

Wed, 12 April 2006 21:57

Tom Bruhl

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Senior Member

te:
> > >> >>>>>Not completely yet..
> > >> >>>>>You are using the first EQ band reading left to right in High
Pass
> > >mode
> > >> >>>> at
> > >> >>>>>250 Hz and pusing the EQ Gain to +20 dB?
> > >> >>>>>Is there a specific track/channel you are using, and if so, have
> > you
> > >> >tried
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>this on other channels / EDS cards as well?
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>AA
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> > >news:4459fb21@linux...
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Dear Aaron,
> > >> >>>>>> Yes the onboard graphic eq.
> > >> >>>>>> When I said first eq slot I meant ,sorry!, first band eq from
> the
> > >> four
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Paris
> > >> >>>>>> eq has.
> > >> >>>>>> This is the very first as seeing it from the left.
> > >> >>>>>> I hope it is clear now...:)
> > >> >>>>>> Regards,
> > >> >>>>>> Dimitrios
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>Ok, so you're finding this difference in the Graphical EQ
built
> > >into
> > >> >>>>>>>Paris....... what reference to the first slot do you mean? On
> the
> > >> first
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>channel/track perhaps?
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>AA
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> > >> >>>>>>>news:4459f747$1@linux...
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Dear Aaron,
> > >> >>>>>>>> I arrised misunderstanding here and a huge on !!
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> NO PLUGIN neither native nor EDS !!
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Just PLAIN Paris onboard eq.
> > >> >>>>>>>> You know the graphic eq !!
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Whatever else you have found on XP that is strange opposed
to
> > Me
> > >> >
> > >> >>>>>>>> please
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> take
> > >> >>>>>>>> note.
> > >> >>>>>>>> We have to gather that info.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> I hope I made a little bit clearier now.
> > >> >>>>>>>> right ?
> > >> >>>>>>>> Rgards,
> > >> >>>>>>>> Dimitrios
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>Dimitrios, just to be clear.. you are inserting the Paris
VST
> > EQ
> > >> >into
> > >> >>>>>> a
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>native slot, only on the 1st slot does this phenomenon
happen?
> > >Does
> > >> >>>> it
> > >> >>>>>>>>>change if you move channels around? I noticed that in XP the
> > aux
> > >> >leak
> > >> >>>>>> bug
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>seems to have died a deserved death, and I'm wondering if
this
> > is
> > >> >>>>>>>>>somehow
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>related.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>AA
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> > >> >>>>>>>>>news:4459f001$1@linux...
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Again to not confuse anyone as I do sometimes I guess,
> aferall
> > >> >
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> English
> > >> >>>>>>>> is
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> not my native language...
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I just LOADED in the audio bin one wavefile.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> So there is not any recording involved.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Secondly, levels are the same under Xp and Me ONLY the
BIGEQ
> > >FIRST
> > >> >>>> EQ
> > >> >>>>>>>> SLOT
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> has this "bug" or feature ??
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> When you select HIGHPASS and put something around 250hz
( I
> > >know
> > >> >>it
> > >> >>>>>> will
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> be the same for other frequencies) and the output level is
> > set
> > >> >at
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> maximum,
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> UNDER ME there is a HOT HOT output well into severe "tube"
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> distortion
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> thing
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> as opposed to XP which remains natural (well some
distortion
> > >there
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> too).
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> PLease note ONLY the forst EQ slot behaves like this !!!
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> I could not replicate this effect with other eq slots.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes I believe the Paris drivers may make Paris act
> differently,
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> maybe
> > >> >>>>>>>> XP
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> drivers are better ?
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Well I don't know what other things "sound" different
> beetween
> > >> >the
> > >> >>>> two
>

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Re: paris spdif [message #66644 is a reply to message #66636]

Thu, 13 April 2006 07:49

Deej [1]

Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

br /> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Dimitrios
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> "Paul" <pn@nc.nospam.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>Opps I meant to say hotter on the ME file.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>Damn I need a proffreeder. ;-}
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>"Paul" <pn@nc.nospam.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>Sound like the level is hotter on the XP file. This
might
> > be
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>reaching
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> a
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>bit,
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>but have you verified that the levels (pro/semi pro) on
the
> > >MEC
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>module
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> are
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>set the same between the two. I know that they are saved
> with
> > >> >the
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>project,
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>but could XP somehow be loosing the setting? Have you
tried
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>toggling
> > >> >>>>>>>> it
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>back
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>and forth just to see?
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>

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Re: paris spdif [message #66645 is a reply to message #66636]

Thu, 13 April 2006 08:18

EK Sound

Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>

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Re: paris spdif [message #66646 is a reply to message #66645]

Thu, 13 April 2006 08:25

Tom Bruhl

Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007

Senior Member

;>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Here is the second wave mono file for Me.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Please read previous post tounderstand.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Regards,
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Dimitrios
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Me neither, I'd go as far as to say...not possible.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>--
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Martin Harrington
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>www.lendanear-sound.com
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote in message
> > >news:44598399$1@linux...
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand how the OS could make a difference
> > at
> > >> all
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with regard to the sound an application produces.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not calling you a liar, but I sure would like you to
> > >elaborate
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or provide some kind of basis for your statements if
> you
> > >> can.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thats right !
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>We are talking here about the Paris graphic eq.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would like anyone's input here.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>

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Re: paris spdif [message #66658 is a reply to message #66646]

Thu, 13 April 2006 15:38

Don Nafe

Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

>>>>>>>>>>The memory starts going. If I get some time I will check it
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rod
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>In order not to confuse anyone here is my exact test.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On a four card Paris system I loaded a B3 tune for 3-4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>seconds
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aloop on a Paris audio track.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I pushed the level up to 10and had submix -8.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was monitoring via monitor outputs and had the monitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>level -12.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No on Paris BigEqI had thsi filter highpass at 260Hz and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lowpass
>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>5247,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trimmer AT FULL 20 !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This makes all the diffrence now beetween Me and XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Under XP even at +20 the sound becomes nowhere as distorted
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(well
>>>>>>>>bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>distortion)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and the volume stays overall the same as with the BigEq OFF.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The trimmer works because lowering it the volume lowers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>itself
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now on Me with closed EQ we have the same sound (is it ?) but
>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>eq
>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>engaged with that full +20 there is sever distortion and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>loudness
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>fatness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Go figure...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can please someone with both XP and Me partitions check this
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>please
>>>>>>>>>?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When I was first using Me for some months and then switched
> to
>>>>XP
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remember
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that the sound was different to my ears but I said to myself
>>> well,
>>>>>>>>>yor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>must be wrong...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Now that makes me wonder if many things act differently under
>>>>XP!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dimitrios
>>>>>>>>&

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