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| Re: Worksops @ Eastcoast Music Mall [message #71615 is a reply to message #71607] |
Tue, 22 August 2006 10:12  |
Tony Benson
Messages: 453
Registered: June 2006
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>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> deities (good and sometimes bad) exist, that their associated
>>>>>>>>>>>> stories
>>>>>>>>>>>> actually occurred, and often, that there is some sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>> afterlife.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, religious people believe in a variety of different
>>>>>>>>>>>> deities.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even those who believe in the same deity disagree, sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>> violently,
>>>>>>>>>>>> about the nature of their deity. Religions sometimes even
>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> the nature of reality. If you want to base morality strictly on
>>>>>>>>>>>> religion, and you look around, you'll notice that religion can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat chaotic basis unless...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, you might say, I want to base morality on MY religion.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well,
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> just dissed the majority of religions. No problem because THEY
>>>>>>>>>>>> ARE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> WRONG. And people who believe in those religions may just be
>>>>>>>>>>>> saying
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same thing about you and your religion. For those religions who
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> tolerant of other ideas, you may just have started a war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So perhaps it's BETTER, in our time, to have a system of
>>>>>>>>>>>> justice
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT based on a religion. But one which guarantees everyone the
>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> practice the religion of their choice, guarantees other
>>>>>>>>>>>> freedoms
>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> we in the USA do in our Bill of Rights, encourages honesty and
>>>>>>>>>>>> integrity, while enforcing some common sense limits such as no
>>>>>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>>>>> sacrifices, a minimum age for marriage, no incest, no slavery,
>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> murder, no rape, no stealing, those sorts of things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is viewed as morality beyond a fair justice system and
>>>>>>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>> sense
>>>>>>>>>>>> rules of behavior can be left to each freely chosen religion to
>>>>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>>>>> out, like whether to restrict diet in some way, whether to wear
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> certain type of clothing, how to pray, etc. But none of these
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