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| Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62328] |
Tue, 03 January 2006 21:55  |
Pete Ruthenburg
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t for now, the whole of animas.net is toast......if anyone has been trying
>to ping me, I've been unpingable and have been incapable of establishing
>contact with the rest of the known universe.
>
>DeejJamie,
Logic use to be my main sequencer, it still is,if I'm using a computer. But,
I'm not comparis Logic with Paris, rather Cubase SX/Nuendo, Pro Tools LE
AKA The Natives.
Logic does not handle audio, in both recording, editing and mixng the way
these apps do. Logic is a fine music creation DAW and yes you can mix fairly
well on it.. But, I would not say that it's audio engine is as sleek, fast
as
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62369 is a reply to message #62367] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:56  |
Mark McDermott
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locked on how
to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the inputs and
the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And don't
laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
Thanks,
KentYou cannot patch across EDS cards without physically routing analog
connections between them. Do you have the ribbon cables connected between
the two EDS cards?
"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfd2bf@linux...
> 1 card with MEC works great (98SE). Decided to complicate my life and add
> another card and introduce my ol' 442 in the mix. What I want to do is
use
> card A for global effects (no limit, etc) and record to card B.
Otherwords,
> put the MEC on Card A and the 442 on card B (with inputs and outputs.) Or
> the other way around (MEC on card A, 442 on B.)
>
> I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to in on
> 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked on how
> to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the inputs
and
> the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
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> How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And don't
> laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
>
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
>Thad,
You're good :) (LOL)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>The Altivec processers are disturbingly, amazingly powerful. And they sit
>there doing nothing because coding for them is extremely difficult and the
>devlopment tools to take advantage of them never got anywhere close to good
>enough. Which is a damn shame, think of all of those sad little floating
>point calculati
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62373 is a reply to message #62328] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:07 |
Tony Benson
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/>
>>>Hey LaMont! On this G5 thing, your reading too much in to the latest
news.
>>> Go back to the Apple Key note speech and listen to what Steve Jobs said.
>>> You can scroll through the QT file quickly to get to the info on the
new
>>>machines performance compared to the G5s. First, the iMac is a consumer
>>>product with a single G5. It is being compared to a new intel dual processor
>>>machine, and I believe it has faster bussing. Jobs stated that the tests
>>>do not show all, but in at least the two test, floating point and integer,
>>>it show to be twice as fast. I would hope so, it has two processors!
>In
>>>this case, this is Apple spin. Their just trying to put their products
>>in
>>>a good light, and give Mac users reason to buy.
>>>
>>>As for the G5 tower, I think you should take a good look at the performance
>>>specs of the quad towers! There no dogs! The architecture of the iMac
>>is
>>>different than that of the G5 towers. The G5 was built for pro multi
media
>>>work. The other thing is the towers have the Altivec technology for multi
>>>media work. That is something that is going to change the whole equation
>>>when Apple jumps their software over to intel. Altivec is a definite
factor
>>>in how a G4 and G5 perform. I think that is why they went with dual core
>>>Intel chips, to make up some of the performance loss. My guess is one
>processor
>>>is handling what Altivec was handling, but I don't know for sure. Time
>>will
>>>tell on all this.
>>>
>>>I'm just saying look in to all of it more closely. I think if
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62374 is a reply to message #62328] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:08 |
Don Nafe
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Registered: July 2005
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you do,
>and
>>>your honest with yourself, you'll see what I'm talking about.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@amerietch.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Jamie,
>>>>
>>>>Logic use to be my main sequencer, it still is,if I'm using a computer.
>>>But,
>>>>I'm not comparis Logic with Paris, rather Cubase SX/Nuendo, Pro Tools
>LE
>>>>AKA The Natives.
>>>>
>>>>Logic does not handle audio, in both recording, editing and mixng the
>way
>>>>these apps do. Logic is a fine music creation DAW and yes you can mix
>fairly
>>>>well on it.. But, I would not say that it's audio engine is as sleek,
>fast
>>>>as Cubase SX/Nuendo or PT LE. It's still that same old mixer/arrange
setup
>>>>that been there since
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62376 is a reply to message #62374] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:10 |
Tony Benson
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nds of mine who jumped on the Dual G5 and upgraded
>>>>Logic as well, figuring that "finaly" we can really see this app(Logic)
>>>burn
>>>>rubber..Well, we were all fooled.. Even more, it seem that certain version
>>>>of OSX slowed not only Logic down, but other apps as well. sadly, today
>>>most
>>>>of htose users now run PT on their G5's.
>>>>
>>>>If you check most online forums, you'd noyice thatthe most requested
upgrade
>>>>users want from emagic is: Rewrite, re0code the audio engine and thus
>make
>>>>Logic Audio an 'first rate audio app with same midi engine. Instead of
>>it
>>>>being a Midi app with add on audio capabilities.
>>>>
>>>>The folks over at Emagic have balked to make the much needed comsmetic
>>changes,
>>>>as well as, have the slick, cool editing found on the top DAWs.
>>>>I'm not putting down the product,rather just stating as a long-time user
>>>>some of it's shortcomings and changes I and a lotof others like to see.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>At this pont, I don't know if Emagic can make it happen. It seems that
>>Apple
>>>>is goin full bore with SOundTrack Pro/Final Cut Pro.. Soundtrack Pro's
>>layout
>>>>and audi
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62394 is a reply to message #62387] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 09:52 |
Tony Benson
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442 on B.)
>> >> >
>> >> > I now have the MEC on card A (master), 442 on B, BNC out from MEC to
> in
>> > on
>> >> > 442. When it initializes, everything is cool, but I'm vapor locked
> on
>> > how
>> >> > to record to the 442. In the patchbay, the MEC sucks up all the
> inputs
>> >> and
>> >> > the 442 will not patch across EDS cards.
>> >> >
>> >> > How do I get the 442 inputs/outputs active so I can record? And
> don't
>> >> > laugh, I know this is probably simple for the Paris intelligentsia.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Kent
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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>Kent,
You should be able to drag the 442 to the patch window in the patchbay. I'm
not in front of my PARIS rig, so I can't walk you through this right now.
Mostly cause my brain is too small to remember the steps! If no one else
helps you out, I'll try to get back to you tonight.
Tony
"Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfee84@linux...
> Little confused how to monitor from the 442. In the patchbay, if I set
> the
> 442 as A, I have no connections to either the 442 or the MEC (default
> saved
> with MEC as A.) Can I make the monitor connections for the 442 and the
> input connections for the MEC in the patch bay? If not, how do I make the
> connections? Thanks.
>
> Kent
>
>
> "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
> news:43cfeb8c@linux...
>> Yes, the physical connection to cards A & B can't be changed in the
>> software. What I would do is connect your 442 to card A and monitor from
>> that either analog or spdif out. Connect your MEC to card B and record to
>> that. That way card A and the 442 is always open for the global EDS
> inserts.
>> I have a three card system and change the card assignments around all the
>> time. I just wait until I'm ready to mix before adding the global inserts
> to
>> the submix with the most open resources.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> "Kent" <kent510745@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43cfe3aa@linux...
>> > That's what I was doing, but everytime I switch submixes, I lose my
> global
>> > inserts. Not that big of deal, I guess, pretty easy to throw them back
>> > in.
>> > I was just hoping I could add my 442, then record on either the MEC or
>> > 442.
>> > Guess not. Welcome to ParisWorld.
>> >
>> > Thanks Tony,
>> >
>> > Kent
>> > "Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>> > news:43cfe284@linux...
>> >> Kent,
>> >>
>> >> You can always switch the card assignment in the master output window
>> >
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62407 is a reply to message #62328] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 11:48 |
Chris Wargo
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;>>>>
>>>>>>>>Logic's automation is more comprehensive and quick to edit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>> -Jamie
>>>>>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>LaMont wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi Jamie as a current owner of Logic 7 and 5.3 Win, I have been
excited
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>>Logic's audio recording performance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The app is stil the same as when I purchased it back in 1997. Yes,
>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>instruments
>>>>>>>>>are very good, and I still think that Logic's sequencer is in league
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it's
>>>>>>>>>own. However, while Steingberge re-wrote the entire audio engine
>in
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cubase
>>>>>>>>>SX, Logic and DP is esentially the same app. The audio engine is
>not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>sleek and fast as is SX/Nuendo PT,or even Paris..No
>>>>>>>>>sample accurate editing. The Logic look is dated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It seems that Apple's Sountrack Pro is going inthe right direction.
>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>hope that tey manage to integrate that killer Logic sequencer..
Then,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Appple
>>>>>>>>>will have a killer DAW. Note: Logic's Audio Instruments are steller..
>>>>>>>>>Take care.LAD
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>LaMont, what are your complaints with Logic's audio engine? And
>are
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>talking about Logic Pro 7.1 or an earlier version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>-Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>jef knight wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Apple only? fascists.
>>>>>>>>>>>lol
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Way OT-Shopping for a new TV.Any advice?LCD,Plasma,DLP ect. [message #62459 is a reply to message #62328] |
Wed, 04 January 2006 21:34 |
Paul Artola
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get="_blank">stefan@superkarate.nammbound.com> wrote:
>> I'll be there Saturday and Sunday, possibly parts of Friday. Should
>> anyone
>> care about that :) I'll be easiest to track down at the East West booth.
>
>Make sure to have them clear up all of those tuning issues! ;-) ;-) ;-)
>
>--
>-Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
>
Zoweeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
:-)
- StefanDedric Terry wrote:
> Hey Jamie,
>
> That makes more sense - I couldn't see how Logic would have made it to 7
> without sample accurate audio.
>
> I can't speak for anything beyond 5.5, so take my comment with a grain of
> salt.
I'll see if I can bring you up to date. :^)
> Logic may in reality have most every editing feature Nuendo has, but
> to me, audio seemed easier in Nuendo after switching - that could be nothing
> more than subjective psychovisuals, but tools, visuals that contribute to
> how quickly I can analyze and edit an audio track, and at the time, much
> better crossfade editing options (5.5 was a bit limited there). Handling
> audio as events or clips, time warp, etc. are also nice features.
They added new crossfade options to Logic. Version 6 or 7, I forget
which but I was glad to see it. You can just drag across adjacent
regions and can also edit numerically.
> Probably the big missing feature (or so I hear - again, correct if wrong
> here), is plugin delay compensation on busses.
Added in 7.1: "Full Native Plug-In Delay Compensation
Take advantage of full plug-in delay compensation which now corrects for
latency produced on bus, auxiliary, and output channels in addition to
every other path in the native audio mixer. You'll especially appreciate
this enhancement if you own third party DSP cards like those developed
by Universal Audio and TC Electronics." (From
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301426)
I agree that Logic 5.x had limitations but they've been steadily
addressing them.
Here's an article about version 7 you may find interesting:
http://www.tweakheadz.com/review_of_logic_pro_7.htm
Apple's lists of 7 and 7.1 improvements:
http://images.apple.com/logicpro/pdf/LogicPro7_PO.pdf
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Improvements_in_Logic_Pro_7 .1.pdf
> That said, there are some cool aspects to Logic that Nuendo doesn't have:
> 1 - more powerful midi (but to be fair, I haven't found anything I couldn't
> do in Nuendo, other than a complement to Logic's environment).
> 2 - dynamic processing allocation - not an official feature that I know of
> but one users have been asking for in Nuendo. The beauty here - start a
> song loaded with plugins and it doesn't max out the cpu until it reaches the
> point in the song it
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