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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60640 is a reply to message #60635] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 08:12   |
EK Sound
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---=_linux43a7154c--"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>So you're trying to be frugal and reasonable eh?..............but don't
you
>need multipatterns so you set it to fif8 can aim one side at the singer
and
>the other side at a bass amp 30 feet away?
I'll cover that aspect when I have the cash to get another
Kiwi... besides - I thought the idea of buying microphones built
in a place where people make 30 cents per day was so you
WOULDN'T have to pay a thousand bucks per mic?
Neil"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>I posted this about 3 years ago so please forgive if you've seen it before,
>but this was one of my career hilights, getting to play with Skunk at the
>Hardrock and XM radio studio's in D.C. He was attending classified meetings
>between the 2 shows I did with him, but he did say he was working on "geothermal
>guidence" ideas, which could basically put a missle through a bedroom window.
>Got to play "Reelin in the Years" as well as "China Grove" and "Long Train"
>with him. Definatly cool!
>Rod
Are you sure he wasn't just talking about his heat seeking moisture missile?
Sorry, I couldn't resist: )
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Yep! He's a buddy of SSC's too. Years ago............like back in 1998,
>we
>>had quite a thread going about this with Stephen contributing a few
>>interesting tidbits.
>>
>>Now I've gotta go listen to Living on the Fault line by the Doobies and
>get
>>myself a dose of da' Skunk.
>>
>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>>news:43a6f61a@linux...
>>> Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I had no idea. Very interesting stuff.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> Click this link
>>>
>>>
>> http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=31f32f36-63b7-408b-857f-52 7407da1d8d&f=ema
>>il
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Thanks Rod...just had a chance to hunt for it - found it and was just about
to start typing
Don
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:43a70a65$1@linux...
>
> It's really a trick, just patching to bounce autotune in manual mode..
> If your track to be tuned is on track 1, put autotune on an insert. Select
> "external" on the eds insert. Assuming your using mec A spdif, in the
> Paris
> batchbay, patch the "Mixer A insert" output of track 1 (green arrows
> Bottom
> row) to Mec Master digital out L or R. Then Patch the Mec Master Digital
> In L or R (use same as before)to the insert "in" (brown, top)of mixer A
> insert.
> ALSO patch the Mec Master digital in (brown, same as above)
> to track 2 of Mixer A.
> Mute track 1. record inable track 2. You might want to also change the
> input
> monitor to "Always monitor input' in the Project window, but you don't
> have
> to. you just won't hear anything unless your recording.
> NEXT STEP VERY IMPORTANT:
> you MUST make a physical connection (with a real spdif cable) from the
> spdif
> out to the spdif in on the Mec. Now you can autotune away and bounce your
> newly tuned track to track 2.
> You can use the adat connections the same way as the spdif. Just make sure
> to loop the lightpipe cable from the in to the out on the back of the adat
> card.
> Rod
>
> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>&g
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60643 is a reply to message #60640] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 08:40 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
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f="mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com" target="_blank">rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>I posted this about 3 years ago so please forgive if you've seen it
>>before,
>>but this was one of my career hilights, getting to play with Skunk at the
>>Hardrock and XM radio studio's in D.C. He was attending classified
>>meetings
>>between the 2 shows I did with him, but he did say he was working on
>>"geothermal
>>guidence" ideas, which could basically put a missle through a bedroom
>>window.
>>Got to play "Reelin in the Years" as well as "China Grove" and "Long
>>Train"
>>with him. Definatly cool!
>>Rod
>
>
> Are you sure he wasn't just talking about his heat seeking moisture
> missile?
>
>
> Sorry, I couldn't resist: )
>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>>Yep! He's a buddy of SSC's too. Years ago............like back in 1998,
>>we
>>>had quite a thread going about this with Stephen contributing a few
>>>interesting tidbits.
>>>
>>>Now I've gotta go listen to Living on the Fault line by the Doobies and
>>get
>>>myself a dose of da' Skunk.
>>>
>>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>>>news:43a6f61a@linux...
>>>> Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I had no idea. Very interesting
>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>> Click this link
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=31f32f36-63b7-408b-857f-52 7407da1d8d&f=ema
>>>il
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Cool Rod! What a great experience that must have been.
Tony
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:43a7154d@linux...
>
> I posted this about 3 years ago so please forgive if you've seen it
> before,
> but this was one of my career hilights, getting to play with Skunk at the
> Hardrock and XM radio studio's in D.C. He was attending classified
> meetings
> between the 2 shows I did with him, but he did say he was working on
> "geothermal
> guidence" ideas, which could basically put a missle through a bedroom
> window.
> Got to play "Reelin in the Years" as well as "China Grove" and "Long
> Train"
> with him. Definatly cool!
> Rod
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Yep! He's a buddy of SSC's too. Years ago............like back in 1998,
> we
>>had quite a thread going about this with Stephen contributing a few
>>interesting tidbits.
>>
>>Now I've gotta go listen to Living on the Fault line by the Doobies and
> get
>>myself a dose of da' Skunk.
>>
>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>>news:43a6f61a@linux...
>>> Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I had no idea. Very interesting
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> Click this link
>>>
>>>
>> http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=31f32f36-63b7-408b-857f-52 7407da1d8d&f=ema
>>il
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>;oP
Well my critique was based on the lyrical content, which is why it was posted...
....but I'm thinking maybe you knew that. ;o)
And in any case I'm thinking your critique system would suggest that Bohemian
Rhapsody would never make it... ...though it may be true that in today's
formula world it may never have been considered.
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>hmmmm...........if I was going to do a song critique, I'd say that there
>probably needs to be fewer than 216 verses before the
>chorus.......errr......and somehow I must have missed the bridge???? That
>song definitely needs a rewrite before we pitch it to anyone in Nashville.
>Kenny Chesney ain't gonna' pick it up unless we figure out a way to get
a
>steel guitar in there somewhere. Maybe this should just be a barebones
>vocal/guitar demo?
>
>;o)
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43a67ad6$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Cool tune. It's keeping it real more than most rappers who use the phrase
>> keeping it real.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "justcron" <pachinko@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>> >double A...
>> >
>> >hehe... for som
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60644 is a reply to message #60643] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 08:45 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
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e reason the 80lb dog is often seen running full speed
>away
>>
>> >from the 15lb cat....
>> >
>> >the studio shooting has definitely hit us hard... bad press... lots
of
>>
>> >discussions about 'snitching' and life imitating art. Personally I
>believe
>>
>> >you live by the sword you die by the sword and you reap what you sow.
>> Its
>> >a crazy cycle between hip hop (pop culture as a whole) and violence that
>> is
>> >only getting worse. I definitely fear for the little ones. I was in
>toys
>>
>> >r us and the hip hop shit has trickled down to preschool... the remote
>> >control cars are hummers with spinning rims and I even saw Bling Bling
>> >Barbie. Argh.
>> >
>> >Good new local video on topic:
>> >http://www.statikselektah.com/media/motionpicturevideo.wmv
>> >
>> >"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:43a5afcd@linux...
>> >>I hear there will be a patch for that coming.
>> >>
>> >> Install Doghatescat patch release 1.01 or you can install the current
>>
>> >> Alpha release of Kittygetsashowereverytimethishappens.DLL, version
>0.85.
>>
>> >> Some people have tried an alternative, katnip.exe release 3.47 but
with
>>
>> >> mixed results.
>> >> Glad to see you posting, we weren't that sure for a bit what was going
>>
>> >> down in your town with the studio shooting.
>> >> AA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "justcron" <caffiene@hydrorecords.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:43a5a862$1@linux...
>> >>>
>> >>> hola Juan...
>> >>>
>> >>> The only thing that crashes me all the time is when my cat jumps up
on
>>
>> >>> the
>> >>> desk and walks accross the C-16 :)
>> >>>
>> >>> John <no@no.com> wrote:
>> >>>>I seem to be a crash magnet so I'm wondering what crashes you the
most
>> >>>>in Paris?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>messing with inserts while recording?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>corrupted ppj project files?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>streaming errors?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Thanks,
>> >>>>John
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>"DC" <dc@spamiran.com> wrote:
>
>This sucks
>
>http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/19/D8EJG5V80.html
But in an unrelated story:
http://www.kcra.com/news/5577000/detail.html
Maybe if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knew the potential of American music…"genelennon" <genelennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"DC" <dc@spamiran.com> wrote:
>>
>>This sucks
>>
>>http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/19/D8EJG5V80.html
>
>
>But in an unrelated story:
>http://www.kcra.com/news/5577000/detail.html
>
>Maybe if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knew the potential of American music…
>
Now that's funny!This reminds me of Bruce Willis's line in the movie The Last Boy Scout, "You
want to torture me? Play some RAP!" LOL!
"genelennon" <genelennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>"DC" <dc@spamiran.com> wrote:
>>
>>This sucks
>>
>>http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/19/D8EJG5V80.html
>
>
>But in an unrelated story:
>http://www.kcra.com/news/5577000/detail.html
>
>Maybe if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knew the potential of American music…
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"genelennon" <genelennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spamiran.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>This sucks
>>>
>>>http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/19/D8EJG5V80.html
>>
>>
>>But in an unrelated story:
>>http://www.kcra.com/news/5577000/detail.html
>>
>>Maybe if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knew the potential of American music…
>>
>
>Now that's funny!
>
>
Honestly, it’s hard to find much that’s funny in all the crazyness going
on around the world today.
Remember this from June:
REUTERS
“The White House is split over whether to close a U.S. jail
in Guantanamo
Bay, Cuba, a Republican lawmaker said on Sunday, as a magazine
reported a
top al Qaeda suspect interrogated there was made to bark like
a dog and kept
awake with pop music by Christina Aguilera.”
Now how about this:
“East German torture methods include multiple spins of Itsy-Bitsy, Teenie-Weenie,
Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini”
From 123
http://www.filmforum.org/films/123.htmlNo disrespect for anyone's musical tastes or anything, but I'd certainly
"talk" if I were forced to listen to Eminem for more than a few seconds at a
time. They wouldn't even have to chain me up. To be fair though, I feel the
same way about John Denver, The Carpenters, and Bread. To each his own!
Tony
"genelennon" <
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60647 is a reply to message #60644] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 09:17 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
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; <genelennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spamiran.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>This sucks
>>>>
>>>>http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/19/D8EJG5V80.html
>>>
>>>
>>>But in an unrelated story:
>>>http://www.kcra.com/news/5577000/detail.html
>>>
>>>Maybe if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knew the potential of American music.
>>>
>>
>>Now that's funny!
>>
>>
>
> Honestly, it's hard to find much that's funny in all the crazyness going
> on around the world today.
> Remember this from June:
>
> REUTERS
>
> "The White House is split over whether to close a U.S. jail
> in Guantanamo
> Bay, Cuba, a Republican lawmaker said on Sunday, as a
> magazine
> reported a
> top al Qaeda suspect interrogated there was made to bark like
> a dog and kept
> awake with pop music by Christina Aguilera."
>
>
>
> Now how about this:
> "East German torture methods include multiple spins of Itsy-Bitsy,
> Teenie-Weenie,
> Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini"
>
> From 123
> http://www.filmforum.org/films/123.html
>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote:
>No disrespect for anyone's musical tastes or anything, but I'd certainly
>"talk" if I were forced to listen to Eminem for more than a few seconds
at a
>time. They wouldn't even have to chain me up. To be fair though, I feel
the
>same way about John Denver, The Carpenters, and Bread. To each his own!
>
>Tony
>
>
>"genelennon" <genelennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
>news:43a73a57$1@linux...
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spamiran.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>This sucks
>>>
>>>http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/19/D8EJG5V80.html
>>
>>
>> But in an unrelated story:
>> http://www.kcra.com/news/5577000/detail.html
>>
>> Maybe if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knew the potential of American music.
>>
>
>
Well, Iran has banned Kenny G.
I’m not sure if that goes in the plus column or the minus column.Both these discs just kicked my butt all over the room:
http://www.telarc.com/gscripts/title.asp?gsku=3346&mscss id=3C5WJTQPSLS92PA80G05AFURQWL3EF52
http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3314294
DCI've banned music from my house, so I'm listeneing to nothing.Osama! how's it hangin?
"Tyrant" <tyrant@tyros.com> wrote:
>
>
>I've banned music from my house, so I'm listeneing to nothing.Ahh, this is what I refer to as the SPDIF render. I have been
experimenting with it and it works for getting Native and EDS effects
but no EDS EQ. So what's the advantage over just doing a render with
native effects?
Thanks,
John
Don Nafe wrote:
> Thanks Rod...just had a chance to hunt for it - found it and was just about
> to start typing
>
> Don
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:43a70a65$1@linux...
>
>>It's really a trick, just patching to bounce autotune in manual mode..
>>If your track to be tuned is on track 1, put autotune on an insert. Select
>>"external" on the eds insert. Assuming your using mec A spdif, in the
>>Paris
>>batchbay, patch the "Mixer A insert" output of track 1 (green arrows
>>Bottom
>>row) to Mec Master digital out L or R. Then Patch the Mec Master Digital
>>In L or R (use same as before)to the insert "in" (brown, top)of mixer A
>>insert.
>>ALSO patch the Mec Master digital in (brown, same as above)
>>to track 2 of Mixer A.
>>Mute track 1. record inable track 2. You might want to also change the
>>input
>>monitor to "Always monitor input' in the Project window, but you don't
>>have
>>to. you just won't hear anything unless your recording.
>>NEXT STEP VERY IMPORTANT:
>>you MUST make a physical connection (with a real spdif cable) from the
>>spdif
>>out to the spdif in on the Mec. Now you can autotune away and bounce your
>>newly tuned track to track 2.
>>You can use the adat connections the same way as the spdif. Just make sure
>>to loop the lightpipe cable from the in to the out on the back of the adat
>>card.
>>Rod
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>ok, so what's the trick?
>>>
>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don, 8 is the limit if you have 1 mec and 1 adat card. 16 if you have
>>
>>at least
>>
>>>>2 mec's and 4 adat cards. If you have no adat cards, then 2, using
>>>>spdif.
>>>>
>>>>Rod
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi All
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there a limit to the # of tracks that can be sent via the external
>>
>>loop
>>
>>>>
>>>>>(hardwired) tip that Brian used on his Auto tune trick segment...I'm not
>>>>
>>>>at
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>my rig and I was just wondering
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>Does an object that has been trimmed still stream the entire object?
Like if I take a 5 minute object and trim it to 5 seconds will it still
be streaming from hard drive the whole time?
Also, do automated mutes continue streaming from disk? I'm betting
they both stream and need to be rendered to fix it.
Is there a way to verify this?
Oh, I tried compact and as reported, it did nothing. Oh well.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Both versions of Paris forced this outer cards for Mec attachement.
I almost traded it all in because it took me a year to find the answer.
EMU didn't even know. I was pissed. But now I'm happy.
You should be too.
Moving the Mec around isn't that big of a deal really. I don't think it
will screw anything major up. No ADAT cards in there right?
Tom
"Deadmeat" <scott@postmodernblues.com> wrote in message =
news:43a6d87f$1@linux...
Well, like I said, the system works as is (MECs on A and B)
with the older 2.2 software, and has been running like that
for a couple of years - all inputs and outputs producing
sound without problems. So, I know my clock is good, the
cards are good, the MECs and interfaces are good. I just
brought up V2.2 to double check, and recorded using the
interfaces that don't work with 3.0, so it's definatley
a 3.0 issue.
When you had to have your MECs on A and C (or E), was tha
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60649 is a reply to message #60647] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 09:20 |
EK Sound
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> use card A and C and skip putting a MEC on card B or wierd stuff =
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> happens (another hidden Paris 'feature'). The other thing to check =
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> you have a good wordclock BNC cable running from MEC #1 to MEC #2.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Deadmeat" <scott@postmodernblues.com> wrote in message=3D20
> news:43a59445$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi all -
> > Been messing with V3 for a bit and noticed a real problem.
> > Testing on a 3-card system, 2 MECs installed (on A and B
> > cards), 2 ADAT and one Sync on MEC A, 1 8-input on MEC B.
> >
> > Can record fine with MIX A, MEC A. Getting no sound at all
> > on any inputs for MEC B, Mix B. Tried to load V2.2, and all
> > is fine - can record on MEC B inputs all day long. When using
> > V3, see input lights on module, but have no meters in mixer
> > and no sound - MEC B syncing to WC fine - plays sound accross
> > all submixes just fine from projects recorded on V2.
> >
> > Any Thoughts?=3D20
>
>
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> that <BR>you have a good wordclock BNC cable running from MEC #1 to =
=3D
>MEC=3D20
> #2.<BR><BR>AA<BR><BR><BR>"Deadmeat" <<A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D"mailto:scott@postmodernblues.com">scott@postmodernblues.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <BR><A=3D20
> =3D
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>href=3D3D"news:43a59445$1@linux">news:43a59445$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
=3D
>t; Hi=3D20
> all -<BR>> Been messing with V3 for a bit and noticed a real=3D20
> problem.<BR>> Testing on a 3-card system, 2 MECs installed (on A =
=3D
>and=3D20
> B<BR>> cards), 2 ADAT and one Sync on MEC A, 1 8-input on MEC=3D20
> B.<BR>><BR>> Can record fine with MIX A, MEC A. Getting no sound =
=3D
>at=3D20
> all<BR>> on any inputs for MEC B, Mix B. Tried to load V2.2, =
and=3D20
> all<BR>> is fine - can record on MEC B inputs all day long. =
When=3D20
> using<BR>> V3, see input lights on module, but have no meters =
in=3D20
> mixer<BR>> and no sound - MEC B syncing to WC fine - plays =
sound=3D20
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> V2.<BR>><BR>> Any Thoughts? <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Both versions of Paris forced this =
outer cards for=20
Mec attachement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I almost traded it all in because it =
took me a year=20
to find the answer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>EMU didn't even know. I was =
pissed. But=20
now I'm happy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You should be too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Moving the Mec around isn't that big of =
a deal=20
really. I don't think it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>will screw anything major up. No =
ADAT cards=20
in there right?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Deadmeat" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:scott@postmodernblues.com">scott@postmodernblues.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43a6d87f$1@linux">news:43a6d87f$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Well=
, like=20
I said, the system works as is (MECs on A and B)<BR>with the older 2.2 =
software, and has been running like that<BR>for a couple of years - =
all inputs=20
and outputs producing<BR>sound without problems. So, I know my clock =
is good,=20
the<BR>cards are good, the MECs and interfaces are good. I =
just<BR>brought up=20
V2.2 to double check, and recorded using the<BR>interfaces that don't =
work=20
with 3.0, so it's definatley<BR>a 3.0 issue.<BR><BR>When you had to =
have your=20
MECs on A and C (or E), was that<BR>with Version 2.2 and 3.0, or just =
with=20
3.0? I could try moving<BR>the MEC to C and see if that fixes it, but =
I dread=20
making any<BR>changes at all to a functional (under 2.2) PARIS=20
system......<BR><BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dead,<BR>>What Aaron says is =
true. When=20
my system was three cards with two Mecs<BR>>I had card A and C =
attached to=20
the Mecs. Now with five cards it's A and<BR>=3D<BR>>E. =
=3D20<BR>>My=20
ASUS boards like the first and last card when using two=20
Mecs.<BR>>Tom<BR>> "Aaron Allen" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
wrote in=20
message =3D<BR>>news:43a5b0b4$1@linux...<BR>> Are you sure =
you have=20
the two 'correct' EDS cards chosen for your =3D<BR>>system?=20
I=3D20<BR>> know that it gets sketchy pinning down which one, =
but on my=20
system I =3D<BR>>have to=3D20<BR>> use card A and C and =
skip putting a=20
MEC on card B or wierd stuff =
like<BR>=3D<BR>>this=3D20<BR>> happens=20
(another hidden Paris 'feature'). The other thing to check=20
is<BR>=3D<BR>>that=3D20<BR>> you have a good wordclock BNC =
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Edna Sloan
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running from MEC #1 to MEC #2.<BR>><BR>> =20
AA<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Deadmeat" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:scott@postmodernblues.com">scott@postmodernblues.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message=3D20<BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43a59445$1@linux">news:43a59445$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
><BR>> > Hi all -<BR>> > Been messing with =
V3 for a=20
bit and noticed a real problem.<BR>> > Testing on a 3-card =
system,=20
2 MECs installed (on A and B<BR>> > cards), 2 ADAT and one =
Sync on=20
MEC A, 1 8-input on MEC B.<BR>> ><BR>> > Can =
record=20
fine with MIX A, MEC A. Getting no sound at all<BR>> > on =
any=20
inputs for MEC B, Mix B. Tried to load V2.2, and all<BR>> =
> is=20
fine - can record on MEC B inputs all day long. When =
using<BR>> >=20
V3, see input lights on module, but have no meters in =
mixer<BR>> >=20
and no sound - MEC B syncing to WC fine - plays sound =
accross<BR>> =20
> all submixes just fine from projects recorded on =
V2.<BR>> =20
><BR>> > Any=20
Thoughts?=3D20<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC =
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size=3D3D2>Dead,</FONT></DIV& ;gt; <BR>><DIV><FONT=20
face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What Aaron says is true. When my =
=3D<BR>>system=20
was=3D20<BR>>three cards with two=20
Mecs</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>I had card A and C attached to the =3D<BR>>Mecs.=20
Now=3D20<BR>>with five cards it's A and E.=20
</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=20
size=3D3D2>My ASUS boards like </FONT><FONT=20
=3D<BR>>face=3D3DArial=3D20<BR>>size=3D3D2>the first and last =
card when using=20
two Mecs.</FONT></DIV><BR>><DIV><FONT =
face=3D3DArial=20
=
size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV&g t; <BR>><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20<BR>=
>style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT:=20
0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D<BR>>BORDER-LEFT: =
#000000 2px=20
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><BR>> <DIV>"Aaron Allen"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A'>mailto:nosp=
am@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A</A>>>=20
=3D<BR>>wrote in=3D20<BR>> message <A =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:43a5b0b4$1@linux">news:43a5b0b4$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Are=3D20=
'>news:43a5b0b4$1@linux">news:43a5b0b4$1@linux</A>...</DIV>=
;Are=3D20</A><BR>> =20
you sure you have the two 'correct' EDS cards chosen for your=20
system?<BR>=3D<BR>>I=3D20<BR>> <BR>know that it gets =
sketchy=20
pinning down which one, but on my system<BR>=3D<BR>>I =
have=3D20<BR>> =20
to <BR>use card A and C and skip putting a MEC on card B or =
wierd=20
=3D<BR>>stuff like=3D20<BR>> this <BR>happens =
(another hidden=20
Paris 'feature'). The other thing to<BR>=3D<BR>>check =
is=3D20<BR>> =20
that <BR>you have a good wordclock BNC cable running from MEC #1 =
to=20
=3D<BR>>MEC=3D20<BR>> =20
#2.<BR><BR>AA<BR>& amp;lt;BR><BR> "Deadmeat"=20
<<A=3D20<BR>> =3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:scott@postmodernblues.com">scott@postmodernblues.com</A>&a=
mp;g'>mailto:scott@postmodernblues.com">scott@postmodernblues.com</=
A>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=3D20<BR>> =20
wrote in message <BR><A=3D20<BR>> =
=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'news:43a59445$1@linux">news:43a59445$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&=
g'>news:43a59445$1@linux">news:43a59445$1@linux</A>...<BR>=
><BR>&g</A>=3D<BR>>t;=20
Hi=3D20<BR>> all -<BR>> Been messing with V3 for a =
bit and=20
noticed a real=3D20<BR>> problem.<BR>> Testing on a =
3-card=20
system, 2 MECs installed (on A =3D<BR>>and=3D20<BR>> =
B<BR>>=20
cards), 2 ADAT and one Sync on MEC A, 1 8-input on =
MEC=3D20<BR>> =20
B.<BR>><BR>> Can record fine with MIX A, MEC A. =
Getting no=20
sound =3D<BR>>at=3D20<BR>> all<BR>> on any inputs =
for MEC B,=20
Mix B. Tried to load V2.2, and=3D20<BR>> all<BR>> is =
fine -=20
can record on MEC B inputs all day long. When=3D20<BR>> =20
using<BR>> V3, see input lights on module, but have no meters =
in=3D20<BR>> mixer<BR>> and no sound - MEC B syncing =
to WC=20
fine - plays sound=3D20<BR>> accross<BR>> all =
submixes just=20
fine from projects recorded on=3D20<BR>> =20
V2.<BR>><BR>> Any Thoughts?=20
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John,
You can't render eds effects. Also using short passes of=20
Autotune is more tolerable and achievable using this method.
Tom
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43a75c92@linux...
Ahh, this is what I refer to as the SPDIF render. I have been=20
experimenting with it and it works for getting Native and EDS effects=20
but no EDS EQ. So what's the advantage over just doing a render with=20
native effects?
Thanks,
John
Don Nafe wrote:
> Thanks Rod...just had a chance to hunt for it - found it and was =
just about=20
> to start typing
>=20
> Don
>=20
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:43a70a65$1@linux...
>=20
>>It's really a trick, just patching to bounce autotune in manual =
mode..
>>If your track to be tuned is on track 1, put autotune on an insert. =
Select
>>"external" on the eds insert. Assuming your using mec A spdif, in =
the=20
>>Paris
>>batchbay, patch the "Mixer A insert" output of track 1 (green arrows =
>>Bottom
>>row) to Mec Master digital out L or R. Then Patch the Mec Master =
Digital
>>In L or R (use same as before)to the insert "in" (brown, top)of =
mixer A=20
>>insert.
>>ALSO patch the Mec Master digital in (brown, same as above)
>>to track 2 of Mixer A.
>>Mute track 1. record inable track 2. You might want to also change =
the=20
>>input
>>monitor to "Always monitor input' in the Project window, but you =
don't=20
>>have
>>to. you just won't hear anything unless your recording.
>>NEXT STEP VERY IMPORTANT:
>>you MUST make a physical connection (with a real spdif cable) from =
the=20
>>spdif
>>out to the spdif in on the Mec. Now you can autotune away and bounce =
your
>>newly tuned track to track 2.
>>You can use the adat connections the same way as the spdif. Just =
make sure
>>to loop the lightpipe cable from the in to the out on the back of =
the adat
>>card.
>>Rod
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>ok, so what's the trick?
>>>
>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don, 8 is the limit if you have 1 mec and 1 adat card. 16 if you =
have
>>
>>at least
>>
>>>>2 mec's and 4 adat cards. If you have no adat cards, then 2, using =
>>>>spdif.
>>>>
>>>>Rod
>>>>&q
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60652 is a reply to message #60650] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 09:51 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can't render eds effects. =
Also using=20
short passes of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Autotune is more tolerable and =
achievable using=20
this method.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"John" <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:43a75c92@linux">news:43a75c92@linux</A>...</DIV>Ahh, =
this=20
is what I refer to as the SPDIF render. I have been =
<BR>experimenting=20
with it and it works for getting Native and EDS effects <BR>but no EDS =
EQ. So what's the advantage over just doing a render with =
<BR>native=20
effects?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>John<BR><BR>Don Nafe wrote:<BR>> Thanks=20
Rod...just had a chance to hunt for it - found it and was just about =
<BR>>=20
to start typing<BR>> <BR>> Don<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> "Rod =
Lincoln"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:rlincoln@kc.rr.com">rlincoln@kc.rr.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:43a70a65$1@linux">news:43a70a65$1@linux</A>...<BR>>=20
<BR>>>It's really a trick, just patching to bounce autotune in =
manual=20
mode..<BR>>>If your track to be tuned is on track 1, put =
autotune on an=20
insert. Select<BR>>>"external" on the eds insert. Assuming your =
using=20
mec A spdif, in the <BR>>>Paris<BR>>>batchbay, patch the =
"Mixer A=20
insert" output of track 1 (green arrows =
<BR>>>Bottom<BR>>>row) to=20
Mec Master digital out L or R. Then Patch the Mec Master =
Digital<BR>>>In=20
L or R (use same as before)to the insert "in" (brown, top)of mixer A=20
<BR>>>insert.<BR>>>ALSO patch the Mec Master digital in =
(brown,=20
same as above)<BR>>>to track 2 of Mixer A.<BR>>>Mute track =
1.=20
record inable track 2. You might want to also change the=20
<BR>>>input<BR>>>monitor to "Always monitor input' in the =
Project=20
window, but you don't <BR>>>have<BR>>>to. you just won't =
hear=20
anything unless your recording.<BR>>>NEXT STEP VERY=20
IMPORTANT:<BR>>>you MUST make a physical connection (with a real =
spdif=20
cable) from the <BR>>>spdif<BR>>>out to the spdif in on =
the Mec.=20
Now you can autotune away and bounce your<BR>>>newly tuned track =
to=20
track 2.<BR>>>You can use the adat connections the same way as =
the=20
spdif. Just make sure<BR>>>to loop the lightpipe cable from the =
in to=20
the out on the back of the=20
adat<BR>>>card.<BR>>>Rod<BR >>><BR>>>John =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>>>ok, so what's the=20
trick?<BR>>>><BR>>>>Rod Lincoln=20
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Don, 8 is the limit if you =
have 1=20
mec and 1 adat card. 16 if you have<BR>>><BR>>>at=20
least<BR>>><BR>>>>>2 mec's and 4 adat cards. If you =
have no=20
adat cards, then 2, using=20
=
<BR>>>>>spdif.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>Rod<BR>=
>>>>"Don=20
Nafe" <<A href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>>Hi =
All<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Is there a limit to =
the #=20
of tracks that can be sent via the=20
=
external<BR>>><BR>>>loop<BR >>><BR>>>>><BR>&=
gt;>>>>(hardwired)=20
tip that Brian used on his Auto tune trick segment...I'm=20
=
not<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>at <BR>>>>><BR>>=
>>><BR>>>>>>my=20
rig and I was just=20
=
wondering<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Don <BR>>>&=
gt;>><BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>><BR>>>>&g=
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Funny thing though lately when I've tried to do this method of =
Autotuning I've been getting a wicked latency I never experienced when I =
was on 2.2 (or whatever it was)...does anyone know the latency of =
Autotune in Paris
Don
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:43a763d6@linux...
John,
You can't render eds effects. Also using short passes of=20
Autotune is more tolerable and achievable using this method.
Tom
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43a75c92@linux...
Ahh, this is what I refer to as the SPDIF render. I have been=20
experimenting with it and it works for getting Native and EDS =
effects=20
but no EDS EQ. So what's the advantage over just doing a render =
with=20
native effects?
Thanks,
John
Don Nafe wrote:
> Thanks Rod...just had a chance to hunt for it - found it and was =
just about=20
> to start typing
>=20
> Don
>=20
>=20
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:43a70a65$1@linux...
>=20
>>It's really a trick, just patching to bounce autotune in manual =
mode..
>>If your track to be tuned is on track 1, put autotune on an =
insert. Select
>>"external" on the eds insert. Assuming your using mec A spdif, in =
the=20
>>Paris
>>batchbay, patch the "Mixer A insert" output of track 1 (green =
arrows=20
>>Bottom
>>row) to Mec Master digital out L or R. Then Patch the Mec Master =
Digital
>>In L or R (use same as before)to the insert "in" (brown, top)of =
mixer A=20
>>insert.
>>ALSO patch the Mec Master digital in (brown, same as above)
>>to track 2 of Mixer A.
>>Mute track 1. record inable track 2. You might want to also change =
the=20
>>input
>>monitor to "Always monitor input' in the Project window, but you =
don't=20
>>have
>>to. you just won't hear anything unless your recording.
>>NEXT STEP VERY IMPORTANT:
>>you MUST make a physical connection (with a real spdif cable) from =
the=20
>>spdif
>>out to the spdif in on the Mec. Now you can autotune away and =
bounce your
>>newly tuned track to track 2.
>>You can use the adat connections the same way as the spdif. Just =
make sure
>>to loop the lightpipe cable from the in to the out on the back of =
the adat
>>card.
>>Rod
>>
>>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>ok, so what's the trick?
>>>
>>>Rod Lincoln wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don, 8 is the limit if you have 1 mec and 1 adat card. 16 if you =
have
>>
>>at least
>>
>>>>2 mec's and 4 adat cards. If you have no adat cards, then 2, =
using=20
>>>>spdif.
>>>>
>>>>Rod
>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi All
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there a limit to the # of tracks that can be sent via the =
external
>>
>>loop
>>
>>>>
>>>>>(hardwired) tip that Brian used on his Auto tune trick =
segment...I'm not
>>>>
>>>>at
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>my rig and I was just wondering
>>>>>
>>>>>Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Funny thing though lately when I've =
tried to do=20
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never=20
experienced when I was on 2.2 (or whatever it was)...does anyone know =
the=20
latency of Autotune in Paris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:43a763d6@linux">news:43a763d6@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You can't render eds effects. =
Also using=20
short passes of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Autotune is more tolerable and =
achievable using=20
this method.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"John" <<A href=3D"mailto:no@no.com">no@no.com</A>> wrote =
in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:43a75c92@linux">news:43a75c92@linux</A>...</DIV>Ahh, =
this=20
is what I refer to as the SPDIF render. I have been =
<BR>experim
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| Re: Bounce chop [message #60655 is a reply to message #60652] |
Sat, 26 November 2005 10:10 |
Edna Sloan
Messages: 304
Registered: October 2005
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gt;>>>ok, so what's the=20
trick?<BR>>>><BR>>>>Rod Lincoln=20
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>>>Don, 8 is the limit if you =
have 1=20
mec and 1 adat card. 16 if you have<BR>>><BR>>>at=20
least<BR>>><BR>>>>>2 mec's and 4 adat cards. If =
you have=20
no adat cards, then 2, using=20
=
<BR>>>>>spdif.<BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>Rod<BR>=
>>>>"Don=20
Nafe" <<A href=3D"mailto:dnafe@magma.ca">dnafe@magma.ca</A>>=20
=
wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>> <BR>>>>>>Hi =
All<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Is there a limit =
to the #=20
of tracks that can be sent via the=20
=
external<BR>>><BR>>>loop<BR >>><BR>>>>><BR>&=
gt;>>>>(hardwired)=20
tip that Brian used on his Auto tune trick segment...I'm=20
=
not<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>at <BR>>>>><BR>>=
>>><BR>>>>>>my=20
rig and I was just=20
=
wondering<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>Don <BR>>>&=
gt;>><BR>>>>>> <BR>>>>><BR>>>>&g=
t;<BR>>=20
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------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C604E1.428FC970--One word these days bro
Seagate.
AA
"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
news:43a70765@linux...
> Ok, so for Christmas I ordered a new Western Digital SATA 250Gig hard
> drive for my son's PC (that I, the Mac guy, actually help him build last
> summer!). Anyway, I thought what the heck, as long as I'm getting him one,
> I might as well get myself one for my new Mac G5 for a second internal
> drive. So the drives arrive from NewEgg and I install one in my new Mac
> (which, by the way, is the easiest hard drive install scheme I've ever
> seen). I turn the Mac on, but no new hard drive to be found. I restart and
> still no drive. I shut down, double check all my connections, and try
> again. This time I get a dialog box saying the hard drive needs to be
> formatted. Ok, now we're in business. I run Mac Disk Tools to format the
> drive and it freezes about half way through. I exit Disk Tools and look
> for the drive to try again. I can see the drive, but Disc Tools now tells
> me that S.M.A.R.T. is not supported for that drive (which I know is not
> true) and that the total capacity is 0kb. I can't repair, format,
> partition, anything. So now I think, this hard drive is screwy. I take the
> other one I was going to give to my son and install it. Nothing but a nice
> loud rhythmic knocking noise issues fourth from this drive. TWO DOA HARD
> DRIVES! This can't be true. Something must be wrong with my new Mac? Say
> it isn't so! Now I'm on a mission. I have my son take his Western Digital
> SATA from his PC so I can see if my G5 recognizes it. Install his drive
> and boom, it pops right up on the Mac desktop and I can see all his files
> and folders, etc. So now I've got two DOA WD hard drives to return to
> NewEgg. BUMMER! The reason I bought Western Digital is because I've had
> such great luck with them in the past. Now I'm totally spooked. These are
> going back for a refund and I'm ordering two Seagate's instead.
>
> Sorry for the long post. I just need to rant a bit.
>
> Tony
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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That's a fact. With 3 x MECs, it's always the MEC on card #2 that ends =
up locking to the external clock last. the most reliable way to get my =
Frankenstein monster config working is to turn on my outboard modules =
that are interfacing digitally with Parism then turn on the external =
clock, then turn on the MECs, then boot the computer, then boot Paris, =
let it sit for about 30 - 45 seconds until everything stabilizes, then =
boot up my Cubase SX DAW. Any deviation from this will usually cause a =
digital train wreck of the whole cotton pickin' thing.
;o)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:43a762d3@linux...
Both versions of Paris forced this outer cards for Mec attachement.
I almost traded it all in because it took me a year to find the =
answer.
EMU didn't even know. I was pissed. But now I'm happy.
You should be too.
Moving the Mec around isn't that big of a deal really. I don't think =
it
will screw anything major up. No ADAT cards in there right?
Tom
"Deadmeat" <scott@postmodernblues.com> wrote in message =
news:43a6d87f$1@linux...
Well, like I said, the system works as is (MECs on A and B)
with the older 2.2 software, and has been running like that
for a couple of years - all inputs and outputs producing
sound without problems. So, I know my clock is good, the
cards are good, the MECs and interfaces are good. I just
brought up V2.2 to double check, and recorded using the
interfaces that don't work with 3.0, so it's definatley
a 3.0 issue.
When you had to have your MECs on A and C (or E), was that
with Version 2.2 and 3.0, or just with 3.0? I could try moving
the MEC to C and see if that fixes it, but I dread making any
changes at all to a functional (under 2.2) PARIS system......
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dead,
>What Aaron says is true. When my system was three cards with two =
Mecs
>I had card A and C attached to the Mecs. Now with five cards it's =
A and
=3D
>E. =3D20
>My ASUS boards like the first and last card when using two Mecs.
>Tom
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =3D
>news:43a5b0b4$1@linux...
> Are you sure you have the two 'correct' EDS cards chosen for your =
=3D
>system? I=3D20
> know that it gets sketchy pinning down which one, but on my =
system I =3D
>have to=3D20
> use card A and C and skip putting a MEC on card B or wierd stuff =
like
=3D
>this=3D20
> happens (another hidden Paris 'feature'). The other thing to =
check is
=3D
>that=3D20
> you have a good wordclock BNC cable running from MEC #1 to MEC =
#2.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Deadmeat" <scott@postmodernblues.com> wrote in message=3D20
> news:43a59445$1@linux...
> >
> > Hi all -
> > Been messing with V3 for a bit and noticed a real problem.
> > Testing on a 3-card system, 2 MECs installed (on A and B
> > cards), 2 ADAT and one Sync on MEC A, 1 8-input on MEC B.
> >
> > Can record fine with MIX A, MEC A. Getting no sound at all
> > on any inputs for MEC B, Mix B. Tried to load V2.2, and all
> > is fine - can record on MEC B inputs all day long. When using
> > V3, see input lights on module, but have no meters in mixer
> > and no sound - MEC B syncing to WC fine - plays sound accross
> > all submixes just fine from projects recorded on V2.
> >
> > Any Thoughts?=3D20
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dead,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What Aaron says is true. When =
my =3D
>system was=3D20
>three cards with two Mecs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I had card A and C attached to =
the =3D
>Mecs. Now=3D20
>with five cards it's A and E. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My ASUS boards like =
</FONT><FONT =3D
>face=3D3DArial=3D20
>size=3D3D2>the first and last card when using two =
Mecs.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
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=3D
>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>"Aaron Allen" <<A=3D20
> href=3D3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>> =
=3D
>wrote in=3D20
> message <A =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:43a5b0b4$1@linux">news:43a5b0b4$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Are=3D=
20
> you sure you have the two 'correct' EDS cards chosen for your =
system?
=3D
>I=3D20
> <BR>know that it gets sketchy pinning down which one, but on my =
system
=3D
>I have=3D20
> to <BR>use card A and C and skip putting a MEC on card B or wierd =
=3D
>stuff like=3D20
> this <BR>happens (another hidden Paris 'feature'). The other =
thing to
=3D
>check is=3D20
> that <BR>you have a good wordclock BNC cable running from MEC #1 =
to =3D
>MEC=3D20
> #2.<BR><BR>AA<BR><BR><BR>"Deadmeat" <<A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"mailto:scott@postmodernblues.com">scott@postmodernblues.com</A=
>&g=3D
>t;=3D20
> wrote in message <BR><A=3D20
> =3D
=
>href=3D3D"news:43a59445$1@linux">news:43a59445$1@linux</A>...<BR>><BR>&g=
=3D
>t; Hi=3D20
> all -<BR>> Been messing with V3 for a bit and noticed a real=3D20
> problem.<BR>> Testing on a 3-card system, 2 MECs installed (on A =
=3D
>and=3D20
> B<BR>> cards), 2 ADAT and one Sync on MEC A, 1 8-input on =
MEC=3D20
> B.<BR>><BR>> Can record fine with MIX A, MEC A. Getting no sound =
=3D
>at=3D20
> all<BR>> on any inputs for MEC B, Mix B. Tried to load V2.2, =
and=3D20
> all<BR>> is fine - can record on MEC B inputs all day long. =
When=3D20
> using<BR>> V3, see input lights on module, but have no meters =
in=3D20
> mixer<BR>> and no sound - MEC B syncing to WC fine - plays =
sound=3D20
> accross<BR>> all submixes just fine from projects recorded =
on=3D20
> V2.<BR>><BR>> Any Thoughts? <BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's a fact. With 3 x MECs, it's =
always the MEC=20
on card #2 that ends up locking to the external clock last. the most =
reliable=20
way to get my Frankenstein monster config working is to turn on my =
outboard=20
modules that are interfacing digitally with Parism then turn on=20
the external clock, then turn on the MECs, then boot the computer, =
then=20
boot Paris, let it sit for about 30 - 45 seconds until everything =
stabilizes,=20
then boot up my Cubase SX DAW. Any deviation from this will usually =
cause a=20
digital train wreck of the whole cotton pickin' thing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A href=3D"news:43a762d3@linux">news:43a762d3@linux</A>...</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Both versions of Paris forced this =
outer cards=20
for Mec attachement.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I almost traded it all in because it =
took me a=20
ye
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