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7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59605] Thu, 27 October 2005 12:17 Go to next message
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V><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on another stereo pair of tracks.&nbsp; =
Now can you=20
save?</FONT></DIV>
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Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59606 is a reply to message #59605] Thu, 27 October 2005 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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;DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so it may be your project.&nbsp; If =
not it's=20
probably&nbsp;your plugin.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></D
Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59607 is a reply to message #59606] Thu, 27 October 2005 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Dimitrios" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>&gt; wrote in =
message=20
<A =
href=3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
ks=20
for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method via =
adat=20
and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
guitars, I even=20
saved all
Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59608 is a reply to message #59607] Thu, 27 October 2005 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I used =
the=20
clear missing&nbsp; files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
put a=20
stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
play&nbsp;=20
when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any save =
!<BR>Note=20
that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=20
...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Dimitrios,<BR >&gt;Rendering is your=20
answer.&nbsp; Don't render tracks with plugins.&nbsp; In=20
stereo<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;the right side=3D20<BR>&gt;won't have any =
effect.&nbsp;=20
Double check to see that their timing is =
correct<BR>=3D<BR>&gt;too.<BR>&gt;Some=20
people have problems with that.<BR>&am
Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59611 is a reply to message #59608] Thu, 27 October 2005 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; (the furthest down you can go=20
on&lt;BR&gt;&gt; the&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;zoom=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
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&lt;&lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
href=3D3D"<A=20
=
href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
e.no"&gt;erlilo@online.no&lt;/A</A>&gt;&gt;=20
wrote in =3D<BR>&gt;message &lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
=3D<BR>&gt;href=3D3D"<A=20
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=3D<BR>&gt;Is it=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; exactly the same length on each =
stereo files=20
or no different=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
holes&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;in&lt;BR&gt;& amp;gt;&gt;&gt; any of the=20
stereo=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
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Erling&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&
Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59612 is a reply to message #59611] Thu, 27 October 2005 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_nospam_ is currently offline  audioguy_nospam_   CANADA
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;gt;&gt;&lt;BR&a mp;gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; "Dimitrios"=20
&lt;&lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; href=3D3D"<A=20
=
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skrev i =3D<BR>&gt;melding=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; &lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=20
&lt;A=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =3D<BR>&gt;href=3D3D"<A=20
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;&gt;&amp;g</A>=3D<BR>&gt;t;=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi,&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I have =
almost=20
=3D<BR>&gt;finished my=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; project mixing and when I =
try to put a=20
&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; =
stereo&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;=20
native&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; effect on any=20
=3D<BR>&gt;audio=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; track on any submix when I try to =
save I=20
always&lt;BR&gt;&gt; =
=3D<BR>&gt;get&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=3D20 <BR>&gt;&nbsp; &gt;=20
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=3D<BR>&gt;same name=3D20<BR>&gt;&nbsp; or =
other...&lt;BR&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; The=20
Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59614 is a reply to message #59612] Thu, 27 October 2005 18:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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've got a little side project from a friend, nothing fancy just a quick mix
> of his band's live show but I don't want to spend any more time than is
> necessary on this thing.
>
> My question has to do with reducing the level of the the lead vocal mic when
> it's not in use.
>
> Normally I would just drop the fader 3db or so on that mic when it's not in
> use but I started wondering if there is a plug in i.e. an expander or ducker
> for example (never having used either of these beasts) that might do this
> automatically.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Don
>
>Unfortunately the bleed is so loud and his voice level so inconsistant that
using a gate is not usefull.

I have basically decided to automate a 8 db ramp up to and down from the
vocal sections and then copy and paste through the songs...quick simple and
a pain in the ass.


Don


"EK Sound" <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote in message
news:4390784b$1@linux...
>A gate with key filtering would do this. Set the key filters so the gate
>only opens with vocal content, then set the range to a fairly small amount.
>This means that the gate does not close completely, but only dips the level
>down a few db when the person stops singing.
>
> David.
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Dumb Q time...
>>
>> I've got a little side project from a friend, nothing fancy just a quick
>> mix of his band's live show but I don't want to spend any more time than
>> is necessary on this thing.
>>
>> My question has to do with reducing the level of the the lead vocal mic
>> when it's not in use.
>>
>> Normally I would just drop the fader 3db or so on that mic when it's not
>> in use but I started wondering if there is a plug in i.e. an expander or
>> ducker for example (never having used either of these beasts) that might
>> do this automatically.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> DonDear Tom,
It is not the plugin under other song I can open a stereo native effect.
In my project I cannot open ANY stereo effect.
Even chainer only...
I can save my project no problem if I don't use a stereo native effect.
ALSO on submix 3 I managed toopen a stereo native effect but not on submix
1 or 4 , any suggestion ?
Regards,
Dimitrios

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Dimitrios,
>Are you saying you can save before this stereo plugin
>is inserted? I'd say you may have a rouge plugin that
>your wrapper or Paris just doesn't like. Try the same thing
>in a different project. ie: Same stereo plugin inserted
>on another stereo pair of tracks. Now can you save?
>If so it may be your project. If not it's probably
Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59615 is a reply to message #59614] Thu, 27 October 2005 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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your plugin.
>
>Good luck,
>Tom
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
>news:43906b78$1@linux...
>
> Thanks for your suggestions.
> I have rendered using the hardware method via adat and achieved one =
>nice
> compact stereo track with my acoustic guitars, I even saved all audio
=
>files
> on new folder and saved under new name I used the clear missing files
=
>just
> before that but again no luck when I put a stereo native effect on =
>this stereotrack
> even without hitting play when I try to save assertion fails and =
>doesn't
> allow of any save !
> Note that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve ...
> rEGARDS,
> dIMITRIOS
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Dimitrios,
> >Rendering is your answer. Don't render tracks with plugins. In =
>stereo
> =3D
> >the right side=3D20
> >won't have any effect. Double check to see that their timing is =
>correct
> =3D
> >too.
> >Some people have problems with that.
> >Tom
> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message =
>news:43900b57$1@linux...
> > There you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>=3D
> >after that=3D20
> > each stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do =
>the
> =3D
> >job=3D20
> > when saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if =
>something
> =3D
> >are=3D20
> > going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some =
>of =3D
> >the=3D20
> > stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version 2,
=
>=3D
> >when=3D20
> > mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right and =
>=3D
> >muting all=3D20
> > other tracks. Then you can import them into the project again on =
>their
> =3D
> >old=3D20
> > places and give them new names.
> >
> > Erling
> >
> >
> > "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> skrev i melding =3D
> >news:439000f1$1@linux...
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Thanks for your replies.
> > > What I have managed is to have the same start and end for both =
>audio
> =3D
> >files
> > > just by cutting at cursor pointy on both tracks.
> > > Buit insight the stereo tracks each of themhas different cut =
>points
> =3D
> >and=3D20
> > > joint
> > > points , does this matter?
> > > If you ask me why it is because these tracks are not actually =
>stereo
> =3D
> >but
> > > two takes of acoustic guitar playing so I had tomove different =
>parts
> =3D
> >on=3D20
> > > each
> > > of the "stereo" tracks to make them on time.
> > > I want a stereo effect because I wanna expand the ste
Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59617 is a reply to message #59614] Thu, 27 October 2005 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;> > effect on any audio track on any submix when I try to save I
=
>=3D
> >always
> > > get
> > >>> > assertion
> > >>> > failed and cannot save either on same name or other...
> > >>> > The problem is that I want to use stereo effects as I did =
>before
> =3D
> >but
> > >>don't
> > >>> > know why Paris doesn't let to...
> > >>> > Regards,
> > >>> > Dimitrios
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >=3D20
> >
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Rendering is your answer. Don't
=
>=3D
> >render tracks=3D20
> >with plugins. In stereo the right side </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>won't </FONT><FONT =
>face=3D3DArial =3D
> >size=3D3D2>have any=3D20
> >effect. Double check to see that their timing is correct =3D
> >too.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Some people have problems with =
>=3D
> >that.</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> ><BLOCKQUOTE=3D20
> >style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
>=3D
> >BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> > <DIV>"erlilo" <<A =3D
> >href=3D3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>>=3D20
> > wrote in message <A=3D20
> > =
>href=3D3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...</DIV>There
> =3D
> >you have=3D20
> > the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look after that =
><BR>each
> =3D
> >
> > stereopair is starting and ending at the same places will do the =
>job =3D
> ><BR>when=3D20
> > saving under a new name, just to be sure to go back if something =
>are =3D
> ><BR>going=3D20
> > wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of =
>the=3D20
> > <BR>stereofiles, you can rendering the old, hard way, as in version
=
>2,
> =3D
> >when=3D20
> > <BR>mixing down each stereopair with panning hard left and right =
>and =3D
> >muting=3D20
> > all <BR>other tracks. Then you can import them into the project =
>again
> =3D
> >on their=3D20
> > old <BR>places and give them new =3D
> >names.<BR><BR>Erling<BR><BR><BR>"Dimitrios"=3D20
> > <<A href=3D3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">

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Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59619 is a reply to message #59617] Thu, 27 October 2005 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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k">musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
>message=20
> <A =
>href=3D"news:43906b78$1@linux">news:43906b78$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>Than=
>ks=20
> for your suggestions.<BR>I have rendered using the hardware method via
=
>adat=20
> and achieved one nice<BR>compact stereo track with my acoustic =
>guitars, I even=20
> saved all audio files<BR>on new folder and saved under new name I used
=
>the=20
> clear missing  files just<BR>before that but again no luck when I =
>put a=20
> stereo native effect on this stereotrack<BR>even without hitting =
>play =20
> when I try to save assertion fails and doesn't<BR>allow of any save =
>!<BR>Note=20
> that assertion failure appears ONLY when I hit SAve=20
> ...<BR>rEGARDS,<BR>dIMITRIOS<BR><BR>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>><BR>><BR>>Dimitrios,<BR>>Rendering is your=20
> answer.  Don't render tracks with plugins.  In=20
> stereo<BR>=3D<BR>>the right side=3D20<BR>>won't have any =
>effect. =20
> Double check to see that their timing is =
>correct<BR>=3D<BR>>too.<BR>>Some=20
> people have problems with that.<BR>>Tom<BR>>  "erlilo" =
><<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A>> wrote in =
>message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:43900b57$1@linux">news:43900b57$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
> There=20
> you have the problem. I think rendering the tracks and look =
>=3D<BR>>after=20
> that=3D20<BR>>  each stereopair is starting and ending at the =
>same=20
> places will do the<BR>=3D<BR>>job=3D20<BR>>  when saving =
>under a new=20
> name, just to be sure to go back if =
>something<BR>=3D<BR>>are=3D20<BR>> =20
> going wrong again. If the time alignments are going wrong in some of=20
> =3D<BR>>the=3D20<BR>>  stereofiles, you can rendering the =
>old, hard=20
> way, as in version 2, =3D<BR>>when=3D20<BR>>  mixing down =
>each=20
> stereopair with panning hard left and right and =3D<BR>>muting=20
> all=3D20<BR>>  other tracks. Then you can import them into the =
>project=20
> again on their<BR>=3D<BR>>old=3D20<BR>>  places and give =
>them new=20
> names.<BR>><BR>>  Erling<BR>><BR>><BR>>  =
>"Dimitrios"=20
> <<A href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> =
>skrev i=20
> melding =3D<BR>>news:439000f1$1@linux...<BR>>  =
>><BR>> =20
> > Hi,<BR>>  > Thanks for your replies.<BR>>  =
>> What I=20
> have managed is to have the same start and end for both=20
> audio<BR>=3D<BR>>files<BR>>  > just by cutting at cursor =
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>of the=20
> "stereo" tracks to make them on time.<BR>>  > I want a =
>stereo=20
> effect because I
Re: 7 slot magma- 300w PS okay? [message #59621 is a reply to message #59614] Thu, 27 October 2005 22:00 Go to previous message
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> stereo widening =3D<BR>>knob ??=3D20<BR>>  !!<BR>> =
>Amazing=20
> stereo result with complete mono compatibility , =3D<BR>>not=20
> like=3D20<BR>>  waves <BR>> imager<BR>> at=20
> all...<BR>> Cheers,<BR>>=3D20<BR>> =20
> DImitrios<BR>><BR>><BR>> "Ennio"=20
> <<A=3D20<BR>>  href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
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> wrote:<BR>>>The in-points (and out-points) on both sides =
>of the=20
> =3D<BR>>stereo=3D20<BR>>  file must be<BR>>=20
> at<BR>>>the identical spot - down to the=20
> =3D<BR>>sample=3D20<BR>>  (the furthest down you can go=20
> on<BR>> the<BR>>>zoom=3D20<BR>> =20
> tool)<BR>>><BR>>>"erlilo" =
><<A=3D20<BR>> =20
> href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'mailto:erlilo@online.no">erlilo@online.no</A'>mailto:erlilo@onlin=
>e.no">erlilo@online.no</A</A>>>=20
> wrote in =3D<BR>>message <A=3D20<BR>>  =
>=3D<BR>>href=3D3D"<A=20
> =
>href=3D'news:438f4d36@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR'>news:438f4d36=
>@linux">news:438f4d36@linux</A>...<BR</A>>>>>=20
> =3D<BR>>Is it=3D20<BR>>  exactly the same length on each =
>stereo files=20
> or no different=3D20<BR>> =20
> holes<BR>>>in<BR>>>> any of the=20
> stereo=3
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