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| Re: OK guys-let's talk about preamps........again. [message #56690 is a reply to message #56675] |
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Gizmo Recording Company
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www.gizmorecording.com
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| Re: OK guys-let's talk about preamps........again. [message #56699 is a reply to message #56683] |
Mon, 08 August 2005 07:18 |
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Miguel Vigil [1]
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big boys.
>
> Anyway thanks again,
> Peteand run the temperature software if your MB has some
Aaron Allen wrote:
> Pete, check that your fan and cooling system is ok, you very well may have
> fried it with a slow/seized cooling fan.
> AA
>
>
> "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:4330700f$1@linux...
>
>>Thanks for the advice everyone on my computer problems.
>>
>>After installing a new power supply with no change I took it to
>>my local PC shop.Turns out the processor is dead.Thats lame but
>>also its still under warranty so EastCoast should be able to
>>change it out no problem.I guess its kinda weird for a 1 1/2 year
>>old processor to go dead;comps,you gotta love 'em.
>>
>>Anyway now I can get my money back from the power supply I just
>>bought since I just got a MAGMA 13 slot;now I'm running with the
>>big boys.
>>
>>Anyway thanks again,
>>Pete
>
>
>Isn't it the Studio Projects mic pre that has a tube which you
can add/blend into the signal chain in varying degrees? That
sounds like a better way to go if one is looking for a low-cost
preamp with a tube option... at least that way if the solid-
state portion of it is pretty clean, you've got that going for
you, and you can add in however much "ToOb" effect you want.
Heck, Drawmer even has one like that IIRC (but I don't know if
that one is a starved-plate design or not).
You know, I used to think that it was tubes that lent warmth,
but I recall a conversation on r.a.p. wherein Fletcher was
saying that it wasn't the tubes themselves, but rather the
transformers ("what you want is a big hunk of iron in there",
is how he put it), and at this stage, I would tend to agree...
for example, I have a Chandler TG2 pre, and that's not tube,
but it does have x-formers, and that thing does indeed have
plenty of warmth (along with a really nice high end, too, BTW).
One day it'd be nice to be able to quantify "warmth"... I mean
we all know it when we hear it, but what is it, really? Is it a
certain kind of distortion in the low-mids? Is it a slight low-
mid bump with a teensy-tiny little bit of high-end sizzle?
(personally, I'm leaning towards this one) Or is there a
certain narrow frequency range or combination of ranges that if
there's enough content in there relative to the rest of the
spectrum, we perceive it as being "warm-sounding"? (this one's
less likely, because if that were the case, you could EQ in
however much "warmth" you wanted). Like I said, myself, I'm
leaning towards the 2nd example... if you have Howard Stern on
the air in your market (not that I'm a fan of his, but this is
a good example of what I'm talking about) I think his
voice/signal chain is a good example of "warmth" - check it out
sometime if you're not familiar with the sound, or just tune
into his cable show...
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| Re: OK guys-let's talk about preamps........again. [message #56701 is a reply to message #56675] |
Mon, 08 August 2005 08:48 |
uptown jimmy
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>> DJ wrote:
>> > http://www.record-producer.com/learn.cfm?a=2838
>> >
>> >
>
>Maybe tone is not such an issue, but feedback and the range of garbage I've
seen these things pick up is. If you are not a strong singer, IMO, you're
going to have whatever else is around you in your vocoder at typical stage
volumes. Probably the best mic I've had experience with in handling this
best is the Crown CM-311 though that is not a wireless. I'd approach my
local retailer and check out the best 3-5 models to try out and let him know
you intend to buy one of them.
AA
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4330ea4f$1@linux...
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>
> Anybody know a good cheap model? I'm after a wireless headset microphone.
> I mean obviously to a degree you get what you pay for, but I'm not super
> concerned about sound quality as there wont be that much in the way of
> vocals.
> Obviously headset mics are average in any case. A lot of the purpose of it
> will be for use with a vocoder though, so exact tonal quality isn't going
> to come through anyhow.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Unless the op amps are inverting and non-inverting design elsewhere in the
chain :)
AA
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4330e058$1@linux...
>
> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>P.S. Actually the schematic has an obvious error,
>
> The inputs on the left both go to positive, whereas one should be positive
> and the other negative to create the opposing components of the balanced
> signal?
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Is Stern's sound a product of a smooth LDC and proximity effect with perhaps
a foam wind screen not popper stopper? Probably a dead room too? I never
watch the show.
For warmth I think Rubber Soul. Combo of tape, tubes great mellow performances
instrument choices. The vinyl version is very warm indeed
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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| Re: OK guys-let's talk about preamps........again. [message #56702 is a reply to message #56701] |
Mon, 08 August 2005 09:00 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
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>Isn't it the Studio Projects mic pre that has a tube which you
>can add/blend into the signal chain in varying degrees? That
>sounds like a better way to go if one is looking for a low-cost
>preamp with a tube option... at least that way if the solid-
>state portion of it is pretty clean, you've got that going for
>you, and you can add in however much "ToOb" effect you want.
>Heck, Drawmer even has one like that IIRC (but I don't know if
>that one is a starved-plate design or not).
>
>You know, I used to think that it was tubes that lent warmth,
>but I recall a conversation on r.a.p. wherein Fletcher was
>saying that it wasn't the tubes themselves, but rather the
>transformers ("what you want is a big hunk of iron in there",
>is how he put it), and at this stage, I would tend to agree...
>for example, I have a Chandler TG2 pre, and that's not tube,
>but it does have x-formers, and that thing does indeed have
>plenty of warmth (along with a really nice high end, too, BTW).
>
>One day it'd be nice to be able to quantify "warmth"... I mean
>we all know it when we hear it, but what is it, really? Is it a
>certain kind of distortion in the low-mids? Is it a slight low-
>mid bump with a teensy-tiny little bit of high-end sizzle?
>(personally, I'm leaning towards this one) Or is there a
>certain narrow frequency range or combination of ranges that if
>there's enough content in there relative to the rest of the
>spectrum, we perceive it as being "warm-sounding"? (this one's
>less likely, because if that were the case, you could EQ in
>however much "warmth" you wanted). Like I said, myself, I'm
>leaning towards the 2nd example... if you have Howard Stern on
>the air in your market (not that I'm a fan of his, but this is
>a good example of what I'm talking about) I think his
>voice/signal chain is a good example of "warmth" - check it out
>sometime if you're not familiar with the sound, or just tune
>into his cable show... it's pretty much the same as long as you
>have a decent set of speakers on your TV. It's got a bump in
>the lows/low-mids, and there's a slight high-end sheen that
>could even be described as a very mild "sizzle" (but not too
>much). The other people on his show don't sound like that, so
>it's him or his particular signal chain, or a combination of
>the two. The lower end of his tone isn't all about proximity
>effect, either, because even when he's not right on top of the
>mic, you still hear that "thing" I'm talking about.
>
>Your thoughts?
>
>Neil
>
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Yeh........the starved plate thing. I did own a DBX compressor a while
back
>>that used a tube circuit in this way to extremely dramatic effect. I
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| Re: OK guys-let's talk about preamps........again. [message #56708 is a reply to message #56675] |
Mon, 08 August 2005 15:28 |
michael bliss
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I am quiting my job and approaching them to be the PR
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