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Fri, 07 March 2008 07:29   |
Bill L
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ack.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want one. Take a look.
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>>>>>> DC
>Ted, can you tell me the audiologist's name?
Ted Gerber wrote:
> Hi Deej-
>
> The only thing I would say is the main vox could have a bit more
> focus. I think I would like to hear it a bit thicker - more
> of the lower mids, similar to the fiddle. Doing this might
> mean adjusting the fiddle of course, which I like as is. I
> don't mind the fiddle's levels bouncing a bit, seems to fit
> the feel of this music, more live and immediate. This is all
> taste, of course.
>
> More people than you know have tinnitus. An audiologist friend
> explained it as the brain substituting signal that it thinks
> should be there that isn't. He successfully treats it with a
> listening regimen lasting many weeks of decreasing levels of
> white noise while sleeping.
>
> Ted
>
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> "Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote:
>> I've been developing a bit of tinnitus. It's really aggravating. I'm in
> the
>> middle of a remix and new tracking project. I've been doing some research
>> on this condition and it can be partly due to stress......something I've
>> had more than my share of recently.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm going to an audiologist soon and will be doing what I can to
>> start trying to mitigate this but in the meantime, I'm still trying to get
>> some "things audio" accomplished.
>>
>> Here's a mix that "I think" is close. Any commntes, critiques, references
>> to appropriate areas of suckage, etc. would be much appreciated.
>>
>> http://www.mediafire.com/?segcml022dz
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>> ......and BTW, I apologize for this not having anything at all to do with
>> politics
>>
>> ;O)
>>
>Hey Ced,
Check with Mike Audet or Aaron Allen on this problem. Sometime if you have
two Mec Interface in the Patching area configurated (like A&B) and you save
it; but, you are really only using "A" then you will get this message.
"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
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>Hey Terry...unfortunately I've checked the patch bay and the MEC and 8in
card
>do not appear in it !"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Ced,
>>
>>This normally happens when: (1)The power goes out and you're running dual
>>monitors but the settings show up on just one monitor (2)When you originally
>>did this project you were using only 1 Mec. You just need to reset your
>Patch
>>Bay configuration.
>>
>>"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Het Terry...I get this on opening a project, Also, I've done re-boots,
>>>pulled and reset cards etc. Otherwise, Paris opens up as normal....I
also
>>>get no "sample rate" light showing........ "Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Ced,
>>>>
>>>>Are you getting this messages when Paris starts up or just when you open
>>>>a project?
>>>>
>>>>"Ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone with ideas...I've been running Paris on 98SE for years, just
last
>>>>night
>>>>>I go to open a project and get 2 error messages " I/O modules not available
>>>>>in this configuration....bla, bla" I have had this before when I forget
>>>>>to turn on the MEC, but it's on, I tried another cable...nada! any
>>thoughts
>>>>>? Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Terry...unfortunately I've checked the patch bay and the MEC and 8in
card
>do not appear in it !"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Ced,
>>
>>This normally happens when: (1)The power goes out and you're running dual
>>monitors but the
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| Re: OT UTube My first taste of Vegemite [message #96625 is a reply to message #96616] |
Fri, 07 March 2008 09:31 |
Neil
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settings show up on just one monitor (2)When you originally
>>did this project you were using only 1 Mec. You just need to reset your
>Patch
>>Bay configuration.
>>
>>"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Het Terry...I get this on opening a project, Also, I've done re-boots,
>>>pulled and reset cards etc. Otherwise, Paris opens up as normal....I
also
>>>get no "sample rate" light showing........ "Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Ced,
>>>>
>>>>Are you getting this messages when Paris starts up or just when you open
>>>>a project?
>>>>
>>>>"Ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone with ideas...I've been running Paris on 98SE for years, just
last
>>>>night
>>>>>I go to open a project and get 2 error messages " I/O modules not available
>>>>>in this configuration....bla, bla" I have had this before when I forget
>>>>>to turn on the MEC, but it's on, I tried another cable...nada! any
>>thoughts
>>>>>? Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>
>well....I'm going to reply to my own call for help...Steve "Artguy" generously
lent me his gear in order to troubleshoot by item....problem seems to be
in the EDS 1000 card, don't know what the problem is exactly as everything
works except the MEC is not found in the patch bay , but replacing my card
has the system up and running again. Any follow-up ideas will be welcome.
"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>Hey Terry...unfortunately I've checked the patch bay and the MEC and 8in
card
>do not appear in it !"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Ced,
>>
>>This normally happens when: (1)The power goes out and you're running dual
>>monitors but the settings show up on just one monitor (2)When you originally
>>did this project you were using only 1 Mec. You just need to reset your
>Patch
>>Bay configuration.
>>
>>"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Het Terry...I get this on opening a project, Also, I've done re-boots,
>>>pulled and reset cards etc. Otherwise, Paris opens up as normal....I
also
>>>get no "sample rate" light showing........ "Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi Ced,
>>>>
>>>>Are you getting this messages when Paris starts up or just when you open
>>>>a project?
>>>>
>>>>"Ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone with ideas...I've been running Paris on 98SE for years, just
last
>>>>night
>>>>>I go to open a project and get 2 error messages " I/O modules not available
>>>>>in this configuration....bla, bla" I have had this before when I forget
>>>>>to turn on the MEC, but it's on, I tried another cable...nada! any
>>thoughts
>>>>>? Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>
>bummer, Ced-
maybe it can be repaired... maybe a new (used) one would be cheaper.
=steve
"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
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>well....I'm going to reply to my own call for help...Steve "Artguy" generously
>lent me his gear in order to troubleshoot by item....problem seems to be
>in the EDS 1000 card, don't know what the problem is exactly as everything
>works except the MEC is not found in the patch bay , but replacing my card
>has t
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| Re: OT UTube My first taste of Vegemite [message #96626 is a reply to message #96625] |
Fri, 07 March 2008 11:44 |
Bill L
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he system up and running again. Any follow-up ideas will be welcome.
>
> "ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Terry...unfortunately I've checked the patch bay and the MEC and 8in
>card
>>do not appear in it !"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Ced,
>>>
>>>This normally happens when: (1)The power goes out and you're running dual
>>>monitors but the settings show up on just one monitor (2)When you originally
>>>did this project you were using only 1 Mec. You just need to reset your
>>Patch
>>>Bay configuration.
>>>
>>>"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Het Terry...I get this on opening a project, Also, I've done re-boots,
>>>>pulled and reset cards etc. Otherwise, Paris opens up as normal....I
>also
>>>>get no "sample rate" light showing........ "Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Ced,
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you getting this messages when Paris starts up or just when you
open
>>>>>a project?
>>>>>
>>>>>"Ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyone with ideas...I've been running Paris on 98SE for years, just
>last
>>>>>night
>>>>>>I go to open a project and get 2 error messages " I/O modules not
available
>>>>>>in this configuration....bla, bla" I have had this before when I
forget
>>>>>>to turn on the MEC, but it's on, I tried another cable...nada! any
>>>thoughts
>>>>>>? Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>It's likely that you have a bent pin somewhere on the EDS at the SCSI 50 pin
connection. Inspect it _carefully_ for any bent or broken connections.
AA
"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote in message news:482671a1$1@linux...
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> well....I'm going to reply to my own call for help...Steve "Artguy"
> generously
> lent me his gear in order to troubleshoot by item....problem seems to be
> in the EDS 1000 card, don't know what the problem is exactly as
> everything
> works except the MEC is not found in the patch bay , but replacing my card
> has the system up and running again. Any follow-up ideas will be welcome.
>
> "ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>>Hey Terry...unfortunately I've checked the patch bay and the MEC and 8in
> card
>>do not appear in it !"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Ced,
>>>
>>>This normally happens when: (1)The power goes out and you're running dual
>>>monitors but the settings show up on just one monitor (2)When you
>>>originally
>>>did this project you were using only 1 Mec. You just need to reset your
>>Patch
>>>Bay configuration.
>>>
>>>"ced" <cedmo1@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Het Terry...I get this on opening a project, Also, I've done re-boots,
>>>>pulled and reset cards etc. Otherwise, Paris opens up as normal....I
> also
>>>>get no "sample rate" light showing........ "Terry Thomas"
>>>><god1stjt@alltel.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Ced,
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you getting this messages when Paris starts up or just when you
>>>>>open
>>>>>a project?
>>>>>
>>>>>&q
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Sat, 08 March 2008 18:42 |
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k">482664bd@linux...
> I'm hardly surprised by your opinion. I use a Vox Tonelab into a Mesa
> Boogie Satellite 60 combo 1x12, but without the tube power amp and speaker
> I would not use it - or any other preamp type for that matter. It's the
> whole package that makes it work.
>
> Chris Wargo wrote:
>> Hey folks, Haven't been around much lately, but I just poked my head in
>> today to see
>> what was happening and saw this thread. Coincidentally, I happened to
>> get
>> to hear one of these at the East Coast Amp Show this morning
>> (www.ampshow.com)
>> If you aren't familiar with the amp show, its run out of a hotel. Each
>> manufacturer gets their own hotel suite to show off their amps, so you
>> can
>> actually play a 50 watter full open. Very cool deal.
>>
>> Anyway, fractal was in the second or third room that I wandered into. I
>> thought it sounded decent but definitely was not blown away. Then I got
>> to hear more and more tube amps, and the fractal simply faded into the
>> background.
>> It wasn't in the same league at all. It suffered from the same thing
>> that
>> most amp modelers do, a lack of immediacy and 3-dimensionality. It was
>> playing
>> out of a decent set of monitors (QSC), but they were full range. I
>> imagine
>> that it would feel better out of a slightly driven tube power amp with
>> some
>> 12" guitar speakers. I actually own a 1st generation Vox Valvetronix
>> amp, and I can say without
>> hesitation that the Vox sounds much better on the clean to crunch tones.
>> With higher gain, it might be a tossup, but I never cared for the high
>> gain
>> models on the Vox. A big difference is that the Vox still responds like
>> an amp. It still has the punch and impact that the Fractal lacks. I
>> can't
>> speak for the pedalboard version of the Vox, especially if you are trying
>> to do DI. My Vox amp sounds lousy run DI. In a DI contest, the fractal
>> would surely win. If I were looking for a rig to do DI recording, I might
>> consider the fractal,
>> it might be the best solution on the market. But for a live situation
>> though,
>> the amp felt limp and flat and simply doesn't cut it for me. I also
>> don't
>> think it will compete with most real tube amps with a decent mic and pre
>> for recording. I remember that I was blown away by the Pod when I first
>> got it. I sold it 6 months later. I think this might be one of those
>> type
>> of products. A few other folks I spoke with at the show seemed to share
>> my opinion. "Not bad for modeling, but..." Standouts in the tube amp
>> department for me were Reason Amps and 65 Amps.
>> Ooh la la....
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chris
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spammersattheatm.com> wrote:
>>> There goes my budget again...
>>>
>>> I really need to hear one of these.
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>> Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Honestly, I can't say how he likes it compared to other setups, but
>>>> when he first got it and started playing thru it, he expressed the
>>>> "well, I guess I should just sell the rest of this gear" emotion!
>>>>
>>>> - Paul
>>>>
>>>> On 6 May 2008 14:38:50 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Do you/he like it as well as a good tube amp in a band context?
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> The guitar player in my band recently got one and loves it. Awesome
>>>>>> sounds, to say the least. He had to wait about 6 months to get it,
>>>>>> IIRC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Paul Artola
>>>>>> Ellicott City, Maryland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6 May 2008 00:53:16 +1000, "DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, you guys seen this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is an amazing tool especially for recording guitars direct.
>>>>>>> http://www.fractalaudio.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a revolution in processing and quality for amp emulators and
>>> FX.
>>>>>>> This guy has really good ears and this box finally starts to deliver
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> promise of amp modeling and the FX are stellar.
>>>>>>> Cliff regularly releases updates and posts of several forums, so the
>>>>>>> product gets almost rea
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Fri, 07 March 2008 22:36 |
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l-time feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want one. Take a look.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DC
>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>Ted, can you tell me the audiologist's name?
>
Hi Bill-
Marshall Chasin up here in Toronto. He works with John Chong.
Together they head up Musician's Clinics of Canada.
http://www.musiciansclinics.com/home.asp
They're quite good, and a who's who of Performing artists credit
them with reviving/prolonging/saving performing careers. I only
know Marshall through my connection with John. He has worked with a number
of my performing piano clients, and also with my
wife, who is an Illustrator. He's quite brilliant and equally eccentric.
Highly recommended
Ted http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/do es-your-amd-based-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx
Is this cool or what?and it also locks you into IE7 so if you need IE6 you can't have it.Hey, I currently have a cheap mexican strat guitar and it's got good sound
and I play through and AX 212. Nothing special here. I've been intrigued
by the Brent Mason Valley Arts Tele that is a go at tele, strat, les paul
sounds all in one. So.....3 questions what's the cheapest way to get those
awesome sounds?
is there a better guitar you like?
what amp to use for stage
what di to use in studio?
Easy question huh?
hehe,
Thanks,
JohnHi Derek,
I have some of the code, all of it is for the esp2. I haven't come across
that particular algo, unfortunately.
I do plan to port the effect to vst. It's just that my priority is building
up PARIS.
All the best,
Mike
"derek" <derekvonkrogh@gmx.net> wrote:
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>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
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>>Hi Derek,
>>
>>VST is on my to-do list, but not until after I've ported all the plugins
>>I can to PARIS.
>>
>>I think you should buy another PARIS rig and come on home!
>>
>>:)
>
>
>oh i still have it ready in the second control room and
>use it every now and then to export an old project (which
>is a real PITA). but other than that, theres just no way back,
>im too spoiled with the typical 2008 daw featureset to return to
>a 1999 daw featureset ;-) as lovely as paris is...
>
>so...you have like what, all the ensoniq effect algorithms that
>were done for the first and second generation ESP? dp4, ASR,
>dp pro etc? or just parts of them? what about the waveboy stuff.
>i know people that would kill for mr. mauchlys resonant filter
>in VST form (me being one of them)
>
>or do you just have parts of the code?Havn't seen this problem at all on the two Danish AMD AOM machines here when
updating with SP3.
Erling
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> skrev i en meddelelse news:482707ce$1@linux...
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> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2008/05/08/do es-your-amd-based-computer-boot-after-installing-xp-sp3.aspx
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> Is this cool or what?I really appreciate your offer! I've actually got OS9 running on my PC in
an emulator so that I can compile the plugins from this machine.
The issue is that Chuck said that the compiler setup for the Mac plugs is
esoteric. He said until the mac was shipped to him, he couldn't get anywhere
with them. I plan to transplant the disk image to my PC as soon as it arrives.
But, if someone has a copy of code warrior for OS 9, I'll give it a try.
I can load up OS 9 with a click of a mouse on my dual core Athlon here,
which is really cool! As long as someone else can test them for me, I should
be ok with the hardware I have.
I did acquire a copy of code warrior already, but it only runs on OS X.
Actually, let me send an email and see if I can find out what version of
Code Warrior is needed. I'll let you know what I hear. I'd really like
to get this done, too.
All the best,
Mike
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
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>Hi Mike,
>
>I wasn't trying to make you feel guilty!!! We all appreciate what you're
>doing... I have an old Mac G3 - 600mHz or thereabouts - that, I think,
has
>OS 9 mounted on it. Would that be enough computer to work with?
>
>Gantt
>
>"Mike Audet" <Mike@...> wrote:
>>
>>I'm sorry, Gantt. I'm sure that Chuck has his hands full with work and
>family.
>> As soon as I get the Mac, I'll try recompiling these. With a little luck,
>>they will all just work, and I can have the Mac versions done in a night.
>>
>>As for current PCs, I don't know. I purposely got an unusual PC that takes
>>a modern CPU in an older chipset to be sure I could run PARIS under Windows
>>XP and Windows 98. I'm sure somebody else has tried PARIS on a PCI Express
>>chipset, though. Maybe a new thread on that would get their attention.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Arrrrgh! Is it time to go shopping for a Paris friendly PC? Will current
>>>hardware run XP and Paris? Any ideas what a machine might cost?
>>>
>>>Whew.
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
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Fri, 07 March 2008 21:57 |
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>>>"Mike Audet" <mike@....> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>
>>>>I can't believe I got it done, but here it is!
>>>>
>>>>This things sounds so smooth that it will blow your mind.
>>>>
>>>>You can run two instances per card, and all the DSP power is going to
>very
>>>>good use. You just have to hear this.
>>>>
>>>>You can order it at www.ensoniq.ca. I've continued to leave the pricing
>>>>as "Pay what you can." Please be fair with this if you value these plugins.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As always, let me know what you think!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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John, I like the multi-pickup idea of the Brent Mason better than doing the
two humbucker split/tap/series/parallel thing in order to approximate a Fender.
I played a PRS yesterday (its been a while) and I didn't care for the 5-way
rewire options to get the single coily sounds. I've also owned a few guitars
with 4-wire humbuckers which also never did the single coil thing well enough
for me. However, my approach to getting different guitar tones might be
extreme. I own 22 guitars ;-)
1. IMHO, the cheapest way to get all those sounds would be to find a nice
$200 strat copy that you like and put on a good humbucker in the neck. If
you find the right hunk of wood and get a pro setup with fret leveling/redressing,
some cheapies can be quite decent and vibey. If you have a little more cash,
build a parts guitar. Still, it's always going to be a compromise in my
opinion.
2. A better guitar that I like? I'm rather partial to my '61 ES-175 or
my '66 ES-335 ;-)
3. For stage, I use a 50W '77 Marshall 2204 rev with a matching cabinet
containing greenbacks. I need the higher gain for my live band, and the
Vox doesn't cut it for me.
4. For my DI, I usually use my home-built Gyraf G9, which has a transformerless
12AU7 instrument input:
http://www.gyraf.dk/gy_pd/g9/g9pd.htm
I also use a home-made Alembic F-2B (attached) for bass.
I generally dislike DI guitar/bass though. I never DI guitar unless I plan
on re-amping. I always do a DI bass track, but I only wind up using the
DI bass about 50% of the time, and usually under a miked bass channel. I
don't use any modeling DI/software.
-Chris
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>Hey, I currently have a cheap mexican strat guitar and it's got good sound
>and I play through and AX 212. Nothing special here. I've been intrigued
>by the Brent Mason Valley Arts Tele that is a go at tele, strat, les paul
>sounds all in one. So.....3 questions what's the cheapest way to get
those
>awesome sounds?
>
>is there a better guitar you like?
>what amp to use for stage
>what di to use in studio?
>
>Easy question huh?
>
>hehe,
>Thanks,
>John
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| Darn - all I need now is a jar of Horlicks :-) [message #96635 is a reply to message #96628] |
Sat, 08 March 2008 03:32 |
Mic Cross
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