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emarenot is currently offline  emarenot   UNITED STATES
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board, I think it's a diode ->l, melted right off of =
> >> >the=20
> >> >board. Any one know what this is? I can't get a picture just yet up on
=
> >> >the net=20
> >> >but I'll try and describe it.</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's appx. 3/4" by 1/2" by 1/4" thick, has 4 pins
on
> >> =
> >> >the=20
> >> >bottom which solder to the cuicut board, dark grey colored and is=20
> >> >coded:</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>-->| RS*202L</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>RU A 90 </FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>+ AC -</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyone of you electronics wizards know where =
> >> >the heck I=20
> >> >can find one of these?</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>You guys are great,</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>PS. By the way I broke down and got a Myspace site
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> >> >now. Check=20
> >> >it out.</FONT></DIV>
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>
>Hehe!!!......you sure you don't want me to come over and crash on your
couch?

;o)

"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4617eb0f$1@linux...
>
> Okay, okay, I'll take it!!!
>
> Sheesh!
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I've got a blackface ADAT module sittin here for $175.00. I haven't seen
>>one sell for less than this............EVER. You need this. I know who you
>
>>are so you
>>now have a choice to make...........either you buy this and I leave you
>>alone or you keep ja
Re: Maybe refocus this NG??? [message #80600 is a reply to message #80598] Sat, 24 February 2007 07:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I've got a blackface ADAT module sittin here for $175.00. I haven't seen
>>>one sell for less than this............EVER. You need this. I know who
you
>>
>>>are so you
>>>now have a choice to make...........either you buy this and I leave you
>>>alone or you keep jackin' around trying to make up your mind and I'm
>>>gonna'
>>>get drunk, come over to your house and crash on your couch.
>>>
>>>You've been warned dammit!!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Its possible, but not likely, especially if its not a new unit, which =
would be more likely to have a defective component. Something caused a =
current overload through it to burn it up. But apparently not a direct =
short which would have blown the fuse as well. I've seen many leaky =
filter caps do this - these are the large caps that filter the ripple =
voltage or small ac component off the DC. A blown voltage regulator is =
another likely suspect, as far as the PS itself. Can the PS run by =
itself w/o being connected to the M80? =20

ich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:4617ee9b$1@linux...
Neil, Edna, couldn't the rectifier just have gone Kablooey? As you say =
it could be symptomatic of another problem but if you read my last post, =
I may have been overloading the thing. Looking at the circuit board =
carefully, I see no other browned or burned resistors, etc. Maybe I'll =
send it in, but I might try to fix it myself as it will be only a couple =
of bucks if it doesn't work. The unit was bought used from another owner =
a few years ago, on ebay, and I'm not sure if it is still under =
warrantee. I'll have to look into this. I probably know just enough to =
get this wrong, but wish me luck. I know........ I'll soon be hearing, =
"I told you so"! :-)

Thanks,
Rich

"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:46178cc2$1@linux...
Hello, Easter greetings by the way. Hey the other day I smelled =
smoke and heard a crinkling sound in the back of my preamp rack and =
later discovered the cause was my Presonus M80's power supply which is =
now deep fried. Well I took the supply apart and found that this dark =
grey thing on the cuircut board, I think it's a diode ->l, melted right =
off of the board. Any one know what this is? I can't get a picture just =
yet up on the net but I'll try and describe it.

It's appx. 3/4" by 1/2" by 1/4" thick, has 4 pins on the bottom =
which solder to the cuicut board, dark grey colored and is coded:

-->| RS*202L
RU A 90=20
+ AC -

Anyone of you electronics wizards know where the heck I can find one =
of these?

You guys are great,
Thanks
Rich

PS. By the way I broke down a
Re: Maybe refocus this NG??? [message #80602 is a reply to message #80598] Sat, 24 February 2007 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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earing, "I told you so"! =
:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>"Rich Lamanna" &lt;<A=20
=
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A>&gt;=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello, Easter&nbsp;greetings by the way. Hey the =
other day=20
I smelled smoke and heard&nbsp;a crinkling sound&nbsp;in the back of =
my=20
preamp rack and later discovered the cause was my Presonus M80's =
power=20
supply which is now deep fried. Well I took the supply apart and =
found that=20
this dark grey thing on the cuircut board, I think it's a diode =
-&gt;l,=20
melted right off of the board. Any one know what this is? I can't =
get a=20
picture just yet up on the net but I'll try and describe =
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's appx. 3/4" by 1/2" by 1/4" thick, has 4 =
pins on the=20
bottom which&nbsp;solder to the cuicut board, dark grey colored and =
is=20
coded:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>--&gt;| RS*202L</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>RU&nbsp; A 90 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>+ AC -</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyone of you electronics wizards&nbsp;know =
where the heck=20
I can find one of these?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You guys are great,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PS. By the way I broke down and got a Myspace =
site now.=20
Check it out.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
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href=3D" http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Duser.viewp rofil=
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------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C7792D.E8534910--Now your hands know what it feels like to make an ice rink in the middle of
your back yard in the dead cold of January

Welcome to my world.

Hell I'd be happy if I could see the bottom of my pool...I still have a two
inch layer of ice in the damn thing

heehehehehehe


"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4617ecec$1@linux...
>
> OK, I got it out of there - it took about a half an hour and
> yes, it was a beeyatch.
>
> Thought the extension on the skimmer pole was gonna break a
> couple of times. Had to use the net like a spatula to scrape
> the paper off the bottom, then twist it around to snag pieces
> of it as the paper floated up a bit.
>
> My hands are almost thawed now (39-degree water dripping off a
> metal pole is not a good feeling lol!).
>
> Fun. Last year we had such crappy wet weather during the summer
> I was only able to use the pool about half the time I was the
> year before... if that happens again, I may just fill it in &
> build a drum room out there.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>This is why there is
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al usually, as I have an automatic vacuum, so that takes
>>> care of most of it within a day or so, and if it's swimming
>>> weather I can always just switch to the manual vac & help it
>>> out if needed. So this morning I wake up & it's still kinda
>>> crappy outside, and so I go out back to see what kind of
>>> leaves, plastic bags, squirrels, etc have ended up in my pool,
>>> and I find this (see pic). It's a friggin newspaper! Looks like
>>> a whole damn newspaper, in fact, not just a section of it! How
>>> the hell am I gonna get that sucker out of there? I ain't goin'
>>> in after it, that's for sure - the thermometer out back says 39
>>> degrees right now, so I can only imagine what the water
>>> temperature must be! lol
>>> I don't even know if I'll be able to grab that stuff with the
>>> skimmer net, because that's ten feet down and I can't get any
>>> leverage with the pole extended t
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ly, the most stunning example of class A 6V6 =
amplification
I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed Deluxe owned by =
another
friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would be useful outside a =
studio
(though it's clean tones are spectacular, I think it would make a =
superb
Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but
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the breakup goes from gorgeous =
Deluxe
to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20

A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage model with =
a crappy
sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think because =
it's just
harder to justify a high pr
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fered to=20
buy<BR>my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good =
as the=20
Top<BR>Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class =
A 6V6=20
amplification<BR>I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed =
Deluxe=20
owned by another<BR>friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would =
be=20
useful outside a studio<BR>(though it's clean tones are spectacular, I =
think=20
it would make a superb<BR>Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the =
breakup goes=20
from gorgeous Deluxe<BR>to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20
<BR><BR>A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage =
model with=20
a crappy<BR>sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think =
because=20
it's just<BR>harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It=20
shouldn't be that<BR>way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' =
world of=20
guitar players the<BR>6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to =
Savage=20
for doing things right<BR>with the Macht series, which is a dream for =
those=20
(like me) who love power<BR>amp grit over everything else. <BR><BR>I'm =
running=20
them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not sure<BR>how =
I'll mic=20
them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch =
coming<BR>from the=20
Top Hat and get more grind from the Savage, letting each amp =
do<BR>what it=20
does best. It's one hell of a roar. <BR><BR>TCB</BLOCKQUOTE>
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------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C77939.21C14700--Ok,

I know you like power amp distortion, but try this:

Take a good OD pedal

I like this one:

http://www.barberelectronics.com/directdrive.htm

and run it into this

http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
(click on Paradox TZF)

then run that into both of your amps.

Now set the TZF up for a fixed filter (no modulation)
and adjust the depth and manual controls...

You will find a setting that beats the best you got before
by 100%

!

It's just like playing with two mics on one amp and getting
the distances *perfect* and all of a sudden the tone just grabs
you by short hairs...

Only you can do it live.

Un-freaking-believable tone doth result...

Yeah yeah the TZF does all the Hendrix flange-O-rama stuff
well, and that's a cool sound too, but it does this adjustable
stereo comb filter thing like nothing else, and the tone simply
has to be heard to be believed...

DC
withThanks for all the well wishes! I'll keep you all posted.
You people are like a second family to me,thanks for the support.

respect
Nappy

"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>My sister has been tested and is a match! If all goes well I'll be getting
>a Kidney transplant in July! Praise God!
>
>respect
>Nappy
>PS Life is to short to debate Mac vs PC....I just wish I could run Mac OSX
>on
>a PC legallyyes, post some clps, dammit!!!

Or if you don't have a place to post 'em, e'mail them to me &
I'l serve 'em up for a reasonable amount of time like I did
with Brandon's drum thingies.

Neil


t> wrote:
>
>
>Thad,
>Post a clip of this monster! Sounds great by your description
>but you are a good writer by nature! I'd love to hear it being an
>AC-30 lover from way back.
>
>I still use your Cubase 2 book too.
>Tom
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:46180a12$1@linux...
>
> OK y'all, since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most
=
>of
> you know, I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my =
>music.
> I'm into hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of =
>that.
> But, after I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also
=
>play
> geetar in a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene
=
>in
> my tastes. For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat =
>Club
> Royale, basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 =
>power
> section. I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out.=20
>
> So, today I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a =
>friend
> is selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some =
>of the
> best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has offered =
>to buy
> my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good as the
=
>Top
> Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class A 6V6 =
>amplification
> I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed Deluxe owned by =
>another
> friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would be useful outside a
=
>studio
> (though it's clean tones are spectacular, I think it would make a =
>superb
> Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the breakup goes from gorgeous =
>Deluxe
> to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20
>
> A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage model with
=
>a crappy
> sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think because =
>it's just
> harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It shouldn't be
=
>that
> way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' world of guitar players
=
>the
> 6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to Savage for doing things
=
>right
> with the Macht series, which is a dream for those (like me) who love =
>power
> amp grit over everything else.=20
>
> I'm running them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not =
>sure
> how I'll mic them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch
=
>coming
> from the Top Hat and get more grind from the Savage, letting each amp
=
>do
> what it does best. It's one hell of a roar.=20
>
> TCB
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Post a clip of this monster!  =
>Sounds great by=20
>your description</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>but you are a good writer by=20
>nature!    I'd love to hear it being an</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AC-30 lover from way back.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I still use your Cubase 2 book =
>too.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><BLOCKQUOTE=20
>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARG
Re: Maybe refocus this NG??? [message #80613 is a reply to message #80598] Sat, 24 February 2007 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> <DIV>"TCB" <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>>=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:46180a12$1@linux">news:46180a12$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK
=
>y'all,=20
> since I know there are a few guitar heads out there. As most of<BR>you
=
>know,=20
> I'm very much into the fancy new stuff when it comes to my =
>music.<BR>I'm into=20
> hip hop, breakbeats, dub step, software synths, and all of =
>that.<BR>But, after=20
> I pop in the phone booth and emerge as my alter ego, I also =
>play<BR>geetar in=20
> a rock'n'roll band. With guitar gear I'm positively Holocene in<BR>my
=
>tastes.=20
> For almost ten years I've played the same amp, a Top Hat =
>Club<BR>Royale,=20
> basically an AC-30 top boost knockoff preamp with an AC-15 =
>power<BR>section.=20
> I've usually put a power soak on it and played it full out. =
><BR><BR>So, today=20
> I finally had a chance to really try out the Savage that a =
>friend<BR>is=20
> selling. In my not so humble opinion I think I've always had some of=20
> the<BR>best guitar tone I've ever heard. More than once someone has =
>offered to=20
> buy<BR>my Top Hat from me on the spot. The Savage is AT LEAST as good
=
>as the=20
> Top<BR>Hat. And, more importantly, the most stunning example of class
=
>A 6V6=20
> amplification<BR>I have heard this side of a lovingly restored tweed =
>Deluxe=20
> owned by another<BR>friend. It doesn't do clean at a level that would
=
>be=20
> useful outside a studio<BR>(though it's clean tones are spectacular, I
=
>think=20
> it would make a superb<BR>Grant Green sounding jazz amp), but the =
>breakup goes=20
> from gorgeous Deluxe<BR>to surprisingly Marshall sounding when dimed.=20
> <BR><BR>A lot of amp makers blackball their one really low wattage =
>model with=20
> a crappy<BR>sounding eight inch speaker and a sub par cabinet, I think
=
>because=20
> it's just<BR>harder to justify a high price tag on a low watt amp. It=20
> shouldn't be that<BR>way, but in the very masculine 'size matters' =
>world of=20
> guitar players the<BR>6 or 10 watt amp should be cheap. Mad props to =
>Savage=20
> for doing things right<BR>with the Macht series, which is a dream for
=
>those=20
> (like me) who love power<BR>amp grit over everything else. <BR><BR>I'm
=
>running=20
> them parallel now and it's SICK how good they sound. Not sure<BR>how =
>I'll mic=20
> them for recording but I'm able to back off on the crunch =
>coming<BR>from the=20
> Top Hat and g
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et more grind from the Savage, letting each amp =
>do<BR>what it=20
> does best. It's one hell of a roar. <BR><BR>TCB</BLOCKQUOTE>
><DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
>and=20
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>
>You guys have any opinions on the MonstercAble Clean Power rack modules? I
was thinking about picking up a stage 2, ten outlet for $200. Is there really
that much benefit in reduced noise floor and better performance?
Thanks,
BWait a year or two and global warming will make it much more bearable
(ducking)

AA


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ts were affected;
> if it kablooied into a short, then whatever components that are
> next in line after it got a nice dose of AC, which may have
> caused a subsequent kablooation of those parts as well.
>
> Just 'cause they don't "look" bad, doesn't mean they ain't.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Neil, Edna, couldn't the rectifier just have gone Kablooey? As you say =
> >it could be symptomatic of another problem but if you read my last post,
> =
> >I may have been overloading the thing. Looking at the circuit board =
> >carefully, I see no other browned or burned resistors, etc. Maybe I'll =
> >send it in, but I might try to fix it myself as it will be only a couple
> =
> >of bucks if it doesn't work. The unit was bought used from another owner
> =
> >a few years ago, on ebay, and I'm not sure if it is still under =
> >warrantee. I'll have to look into this. I probably know just enough to =
> >get this wrong, but wish me luck. I know........ I'll soon be hearing, =
> >"I told you so"! :-)
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Rich
> >
> > "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
> >news:46178cc2$1@linux...
> > Hello, Easter greetings by the way. Hey the other day I smelled smoke
> =
> >and heard a crinkling sound in the back of my preamp rack and later =
> >discovered the cause was my Presonus M80's power supply which is now =
> >deep fried. Well I took the supply apart and found that this dark grey =
> >thing on the cuircut board, I think it's a diode ->l, melted right off =
> >of the board. Any one know what this is? I can't get a picture just yet
> =
> >up on the net but I'll try and describe it.
> >
> > It's appx. 3/4" by 1/2" by 1/4" thick, has 4 pins on the bottom which
> =
> >solder to the cuicut board, dark grey colored and is coded:
> >
> > -->| RS*202L
> > RU A 90=20
> > + AC -
> >
> > Anyone of you electronics wizards know where the heck I can find one =
> >of these?
> >
> > You guys are great,
> > Thanks
> > Rich
> >
> > PS. By the way I broke down and got a Myspace site now. Check it out.
> > =
>
> http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Duser.viewp rofile&friend=
> >id=3D172230696
> >
> >
> >
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> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Neil, Edna, couldn't the rectifier just have gone =
> >Kablooey? As=20
> >you say it could be symptomatic of another problem but if you read my =
> >last post,=20
> >I may have been overloading the thing. Looking at the circuit board=20
> >carefully, I see no other browned or burned resistors,
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etc. Maybe =
> >I'll send=20
> >it in, but I might try to fix it myself as it will be only a couple =
> >of=20
> >bucks if it doesn't work. The unit was bought used from another owner a
> =
> >few=20
> >years ago, on ebay, and I'm not sure if it is still under warrantee. =
> >I'll have=20
> >to look into this. I probably know just enough to get this wrong, but =
> >wish me=20
> >luck. I know........ I'll soon be hearing, "I told you so"! =
> >:-)</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rich</FONT><BR></DIV></DIV>
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> > =
>
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> > wrote in message <A=20
> > href=3D"news:46178cc2$1@linux">news:46178cc2$1@linux</A>...</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello, Easter greetings by the way. Hey the =
> >other day I=20
> > smelled smoke and heard a crinkling sound in the back of my =
> >preamp=20
> > rack and later discovered the cause was my Presonus M80's power supply
> =
> >which=20
> > is now deep fried. Well I took the supply apart and found that this =
> >dark grey=20
> > thing on the cuircut board, I think it's a diode ->l, melted right =
> >off of=20
> > the board. Any one know what this is? I can't get a picture just yet =
> >up on the=20
> > net but I'll try and describe it.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's appx. 3/4" by 1/2" by 1/4" thick, has 4 pins
> =
> >on the=20
> > bottom which solder to the cuicut board, dark grey colored and is =
> >
> > coded:</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-->| RS*202L</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>RU A 90 </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>+ AC -</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Anyone of you electronics wizards know where =
> >the heck I=20
> > can find one of these?</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV><
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Edna, yes the power supply can run on its own, doesn't need to be =
plugged in for it to function. I have it disconnected at the moment. Why =
do you ask?

Rich

"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote in message news:4617f977@linux...
Its possible, but not likely, especially if its not a new unit, which =
would be more likely to have a defective component. Something caused a =
current overload through it to burn it up. But apparently not a direct =
short which would have blown the fuse as well. I've seen many leaky =
filter caps do this - these are the large caps that filter the ripple =
voltage or small ac component off the DC. A blown voltage regulator is =
another likely suspect, as far as the PS itself. Can the PS run by =
itself w/o being connected to the M80? =20

ich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:4617ee9b$1@linux...
Neil, Edna, couldn't the rectifier just have gone Kablooey? As you =
say it could be symptomatic of another problem but if you read my last =
post, I may have been overloading the thing. Looking at the circuit =
board carefully, I see no other browned or burned resistors, etc. Maybe =
I'll send it in, but I might try to fix it myself as it will be only a =
couple of bucks if it doesn't work. The unit was bought used from =
another owner a few years ago, on ebay, and I'm not sure if it is still =
under warrantee. I'll have to look into this. I probably know just =
enough to get this wrong, but wish me luck. I know........ I'll soon be =
hearing, "I told you so"! :-)

Thanks,
Rich

"Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
news:46178cc2$1@linux...
Hello, Easter greetings by the way. Hey the other day I smelled =
smoke and heard a crinkling sound in the back of my preamp rack and =
later discovered the cause was my Presonus M80's power supply which is =
now deep fried. Well I took the supply apart and found that this dark =
grey thing on the cuircut board, I think it's a diode ->l, melted right =
off of the board. Any one know what this is? I can't get a picture just =
yet up on the net but I'll try and describe it.

It's appx. 3/4" by 1/2" by 1/4" thick, has 4 pins on the bottom =
which solder to the cuicut board, dark grey colored and is coded:

-->| RS*202L
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to the M80? =20
>
>ich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
>news:4617ee9b$1@linux...
> Neil, Edna, couldn't the rectifier just have gone Kablooey? As you say
=
>it could be symptomatic of another problem but if you read my last post,
=
>I may have been overloading the thing. Looking at the circuit board =
>carefully, I see no other browned or burned resistors, etc. Maybe I'll =
>send it in, but I might try to fix it myself as it will be only a couple
=
>of bucks if it doesn't work. The unit was bought used from another owner
=
>a few years ago, on ebay, and I'm not sure if it is still under =
>warrantee. I'll have to look into this. I probably know just enough to =
>get this wrong, but wish me luck. I know........ I'll soon be hearing, =
>"I told you so"! :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
> "Rich Lamanna" <richard.lamanna@verizon.net> wrote in message =
>news:46178cc2$1@linux...
> Hello, Easter greetings by the way. Hey the other day I smelled =
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Re: Maybe refocus this NG??? [message #80637 is a reply to message #80634] Sat, 24 February 2007 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Maybe refocus this NG??? [message #80642 is a reply to message #80610] Sat, 24 February 2007 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Maybe refocus this NG??? [message #80643 is a reply to message #80631] Sat, 24 February 2007 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Maybe refocus this NG??? [message #80656 is a reply to message #80652] Sat, 24 February 2007 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll tray again with the pics....

"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Hi.
>I second the capacitor/regulator idea.
>They are cheap and easy to replace, so why not give it a shot.
>If anyone's interested, I've attached a couple of pics that show
>problems that I've had in the past.
>First pic shows a capacitor that's been anchored to the circuit board
>with some kind of contact cement. This is common practice.
>With time and heat, this goop can become conductive.
>If it was blobbed over exposed wire links or component leads
>during manufacture, the conductivity can cause the equipment to fail.
>(Happened to my SPX90 some years ago). Just scraping it off or
>carefully cutting it with a scalpel blade fixes the problem.
>
>The second pic shows examples of bad caps that were released, in
>billions, onto the market, when (allegedly), an unperfected
>formulation for higher density (smaller packages/higher capacitances) was
>the subject of industrial espionage, and stolen.
>So a huge number of motherboards and other equipment has electros
>that dry up after only a couple of years, (depending on how hot
>they get).
>In the pic, the cap on the left is actually bulging on the top
>of the can, and the one on the right has leaked a brown substance
>on the top.
>These should be replaced immediately if you spot them, as they
>WILL cause failure.
>(The pic is actually of a friends' Dell mobo which has become
>flakey....spontaneous rebooting/blue screens etc...)
>Kim
>
>
>
>"Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Its possible, but not likely, especially if its not a new unit, which =
>>would be more likely to have a defective component. Something caused a
>=
>>current overload through it to burn it up. But apparently not a direct
>=
>>short which would have blown the fuse as well. I've seen many leaky =
>>filter caps do this - these are the large caps that filter the ripple =
>>voltage or small ac component off the DC. A blown voltage regulator is
>=
>>another likely suspect, as far as the PS itself. Can the PS run by =
>>itself w/o being connected to the M80? =20
>>
>
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Re: Maybe refocus this NG??? [message #80660 is a reply to message #80598] Sun, 25 February 2007 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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