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Class T amps - seen this? [message #71374] Thu, 17 August 2006 14:57 Go to next message
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nklin
managed
> > this while being adored by the French and banging lots of hot French
> aristobabes
> > on the side. So that goes along ways with me.
> >
> > Just my ideas off the top of my head. The US has been starved for true
> diplomats
> > and strategic thinkers for some time. That's part of the reason we're in
> > the mess we're in now.
> >
> > TCB
>
>The dems you mentioned authorized the military attack on Iraq as a last
resort and I don't believe they were satisfied it was done as such.

How convenient for them when it was the intelligence service that they
created over 8 years of hard work that they now attempt to slag and blame
for their decisdions so they can vote for the war before they vote against
it.

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Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71378 is a reply to message #71374] Thu, 17 August 2006 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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gt;> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
> > news:450ee7ef@linux...
> >>>>>> Let's keep from reacting to irrationality with irrationality of our
> >>> own.
> >>>>>> There's a lot of fear mongering. Chicken Little is back.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> -Jamie
> >>>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> DJ wrote:
> >>>>>>> It doesn't matter at all whether this was the Pope. The bottom
line
> > is
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> it is rationality as opposed to irrationality.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:450ec970@linux...
> >>>>>>>> The Catholic church doesn't speak for Christianity. Certainly not
Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71389 is a reply to message #71378] Thu, 17 August 2006 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ne can be a good person without believing in God - there
>>>> are
>>>>>>>> tons
>>>>>>>>>> of great people with no faith, or very little. That in and of
>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>>>>> me there must be a God so even non-believers would have a strong
>> sense
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> right and wrong on a societal and even global level.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To walk through some thoughts: with no God, or higher reference
>> point,
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> would be considered moral, or at least good? What would one use
>> to
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>>>>> what is right and wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Laws? Most would agree that we can't legislate morality now, so
>> with
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> basis for what morality is, why would we even bother with laws
>>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>> everyone would make their own choices anyway?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Intellect? That would simply depend on what one chose to accept
>> as
>>>>>>>>>> "intelligent" thought, based completely on opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reasoning and Logic? Logic is determined by a
Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71395 is a reply to message #71389] Thu, 17 August 2006 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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asons
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> perusing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the war against Iraq, the president has had an even scarier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you missed it, this week Bush has announced the "Third
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great
>>>>>>>>>>> Awakening"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the international religious struggle. This is a good thing
>> as
>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>> sees
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it and it has been partially brought on by the new fight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>> terrorists
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Translation - Due to his good work in God's name). A war that
>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>> depicts
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "a confrontation between good and evil."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In 2001 he used the word "crusade" and got into quite a bit of
>>>> trouble
>>>>>>>>>>> (as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the Pope), but he seems to have the gloves off now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone imagine a worse direction for the world to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> headed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course he also believes in the Rapture, so things could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hill from here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> More on the "Third Awakening":
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71396 is a reply to message #71374] Thu, 17 August 2006 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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content/article/2006/09/12/AR2006091201" target="_blank"> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09 /12/AR2006091201
>>>>>>>>>>> 59
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4_pf.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gene
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> `
>>>>
>>
Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71399 is a reply to message #71395] Thu, 17 August 2006 22:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t;>and couple
>>be bothered actually deleting it. ;o)
>
>Couple be bothered? Try couldn't be bothered...
>
>...is it dislexia if you just type the complete wrong word? What's with
>that?!?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.crap, i thought it was going to be about chicks floating in those big
black, circular air filled things... i'm soooo out of touch with
reality...



On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:54:31 -0700, "Dubya Mark Wilson"
<mark.xspam@avidrecording.com> wrote:

> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/200 3265044_soapbox19.html
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/200 3265047_warnertube19.html
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/200 3265043_napster19.html
>
>Dubzie
>
>if you were in michigan i'd invite ya over for dinner. i don't know
if you (a non specific individual of any bent) can be critical (in a
constructive, questioning manner) of anything without being labeled
something you (see above def.) were not saying to begin with. the
only good thing is that no one here will kill you for it.

On 20 Sep 2006 00:01:27 +1000, "gene lennon"
<glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:

>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>
>
>>Are you unable to criticize Muslims? Have you drunken the liberal
>>kool-aid?
>>
>>expiring minds want to know!
>>
>>DC
>>
>
>I posted the link about Becky Fischer for a specific reason. It was not to
>embarrass or criticize any true believers, but to point out that some extremists
>exist on the Christian side. My Point?
>
>It is unfair to paint the modern Christian movement with the brush of Becky
>Fischer, or Fred Phelps. The Christian movement may have a few extremists,
>but they do not represent the majority of good people following the Christian
>cause. Funny, because that is the exact point I am also trying to make about
>the modern Moslem movement, which is not just a bunch of knife wielding maniacs.
>It is largely a mixture of fundamentalists combined with many who want to
>see more progressive reform in the Moslem church.
>
>Of the over one billion Moslems in the world today perhaps 1% are extremist
>to the point of violence. That’s still a large and dangerous number. It only
>takes one with a WMD to cause great harm. But what about the 99%?
>
>I am still waiting for someone to answer my question about
Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71418 is a reply to message #71399] Fri, 18 August 2006 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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target="_blank">450f1a7f@linux...
>>> Do we have any money to pay him? I don't think he's gonna work for free.
>>>
>>> ;oP
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>> news:450e9b9e@linux...
>>>> Find out if dude is interested in writing a windows Vista and OS-x
>>>> driver
>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:450e471d$1@linux...
>>>> > He wrote the software program that MRI machines are using these days.
>>>> > Very
>>>> > interesting guy. I'm mastering a project for his wife. He was
>>>> > pretty
>>>> > interested in the Paris program. His wife is pretty well known in the
>
>>>> > LA
>>>> > music community and he digs this stuff. I may ask him if he could
>>>> > write
>>> a
>>>> > delay compensation applet for Paris. He really got a chuckle out of
>>>> > Frankencomp.......said he's built a few similar monstrosities
>>>> > himself.
>>>> > They
>>>> > will be back over here tomorrow night.
>>>> >
>>>> > ;o)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Ditto.

-Carl

"Mark McCurdy" <gmmccurdy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45103bde$1@linux...
> Count me in.
>
> "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote in message news:45100198$1@linux...
> >
> > I'm willing to pay for any upgrades as well.
> >
> > respect
> > Nappy
> >
> >
> > "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >>I was taking that for granted, since we all pulled together to help fund
> >
> >>Chuck's efforts. I have no problems paying for upgrades that are
> >>delivered.
> >>AA
> >>
> >>
> >>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>news:450f1a7f@linux...
> >>> Do we have any money to pay him? I don't think he's gonna work for
free.
> >>>
> >>> ;oP
> >>>
> >>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> >>> news:450e9b9e@linux...
> >>>> Find out if dude is interested in writing a windows Vista and OS-x
> >>>> driver
> >>> :)
> >>>>
> >>>> AA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:450e471d$1@linux...
> >>>> > He wrote the software program that MRI machines are using these
days.
> >>>> > Very
> >>>> > interesting guy. I'm mastering a project for his wife. He was
> >>>> > pretty
> >>>> > interested in the Paris program. His wife is pretty well known in
the
> >
> >>&g
Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71422 is a reply to message #71418] Fri, 18 August 2006 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> >>>>>> engagement,
> >>>>>> etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
> >>>>>> 7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise,
oath,
> >>>> allegiance,
> >>>>>> etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent
> >>>>>> troubles.
> >>>>>> 8. Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as made
> >> through
> >>>>>> Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't see anything in there about risk. My point is that people
can
> >>>> do
> >>>>>> the things you're talking about knowing full well they might fail,
but
> >>>> do
> >>>>>> them anyway. That's taking a risk, not having faith. I don't have
> >>>>>> faith
> >>>> but
> >>>>>> I've taken lots of personal and professional risks in my life.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> TCB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> We can disagree about that but the first line is the dictionary
> >>>>>>> definition.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> -Jamie
> >>>>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> TCB wrote:
> >>>>>>>> You're confusing 'faith' with 'a willingness to take risks.'
Animals
> >>>> take
> >>>>>>>> risks, to get food, create more animals, etc., but I doubt they
have
> >>>> faith.
> >>>>>>>> One needs no faith to start businesses, invest money, get
married,
> >> etc.
> >>>>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Faith is complete trust or confidence in something or someone.
> >>>>>>>>> Religious
> >>>>>>>>> faith is one form of faith but not the only definition of
"faith."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For example I have faith that if I drop a guitar pick it will
find
> >>>> its
> >>>>>>>>> way to the floor based on the gravitational attraction it has to
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> planet. I have faith that I'll breathe my next breath, that I'll
> >> see
> >>>>>>>>> tomorrow morning. I have faith that other people are put
together
> >> much
> >>>>>>>>> like I am and that I can therefore relate to other folks.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Without faith, people would not invest money. Without faith
people
> >>>> would
> >>>>>>>>> not vote. Without faith people would not start businesses, hire
> >>>>>>>>> other
> >>>>>>>>> people, raise children. Without faith people would not ride
trains,
> >>>> fly
> >>>>>>>>> in planes or drive cars. Without faith no one would investigate
> >>>>>>>>> scientific questions about reality.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> While you can clearly have faith without religion, you cannot
have
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> religion without faith. Religion depends on faith that one or
more
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> deities (good and sometimes bad) exist, that their associated
> >>>>>>>>> stories
> >>>>>>>>> actually occurred, and often, that there is some sort of
afterlife.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> However, religious people believe in a variety of different
> >>>>>>>>> deities.
> >>>>>>>>> Even those who believe in the same deity disagree, sometimes
> >>>>>>>>> violently,
> >>>>>>>>> about the nature of their deity. Religions sometimes even
disagree
> >>>> about
> >>>>>>>>> the nature of reality. If you want to base morality strictly on
> >>>>>>>>> religion, and you look around, you'll notice that religion can
be
> >> a
> >>>>
Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71425 is a reply to message #71422] Fri, 18 August 2006 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>>>>>>>>> hijacked
> >>>>>>>>> religions used to legitimize earthly power structures in other
> >>>>>>>>> cases.
> >>>>>>
Re: Class T amps - seen this? [message #71426 is a reply to message #71425] Fri, 18 August 2006 12:44 Go to previous message
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;>>> Dedric, I look forward to talking with you about the positives
and
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> negatives of various religions, and where a moral culture ought
to
> >>>> go
> >>>>>>>> >from here, whenever we next get together.
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> -Jamie
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dedric Terry wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Hey Jimmy,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>&g
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