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Re: Ping Mac users/UAD1 installation on a Mac [message #84928 is a reply to message #84927] Mon, 21 May 2007 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cite.com>
wrote:

>Does anyone know of an app for Windows XP that when you log off/ shut
>down it will return the system to its previous state, including removing
>all newly created files? Basically like ghosting the drive with no user
>intervention?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>JeffEBay is going to ding me for 6% to sell these so I figure I'll make these
available here one last time at lower prices before they go on the block.

Matched pair of Neumann KM184's. Minty fresh. Black finish. I've owned these
since 1998. They are wonderful.....they are also redundant here now and need
a good home. They come in the original cherrywood Neumann logo'ed box with
windscreens and the original clips. - $1100.00

2 x Claytorbuilt Mojave MA200 precursors. See previous post from a few days
ago for description-$400.00 each

2 x AKG C460B/CK61 SDC's. come with cases and mic clips.-$300.00 each

Matched pair of Rode NT5's in flight case with all the factory
goodies-$250.00

Studio Projects C-1 - comes in flight case with shock mount=$125.00 "mint
condition"

Studio Projects C-1-no case or shock mount-$90.00 "mint condition"

Sony MU-R201 true stereo reverb/delay/FX $100.00

Get e'm while they're still gettable.........

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to the FS site

;o)Paul ,

That's the ticket! THanks a bunch.

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Re: Ping Mac users/UAD1 installation on a Mac [message #84930 is a reply to message #84928] Mon, 21 May 2007 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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d expressions ;o), but he's
>> affiliated with Mercenary only as a "consultant" these days. Not sure
if
>> "consultant" means that the guy who is running the show there "consults"

>> with him and then goes ahead and does what he damn well pleases or not,
even
>> if Fletcher gives it a thumbs down. I sorta' doubt it. Fletcher seems
to be
>> a bit like SSC in some ways in that it doesn't appear that his opinion
can
>> be "bought" and so perhaps he wouldn't be a "consultant" to Mercenary
if he
>> thought they were pimping crap.
>>
>> Anyway.........as long as it took Mr. Toft to release this for retail
sale
>> (it think it was something like 3 or 4 years), I'd think that some care
was
>> taken to give it the mojo that he's known to impart to his circuitry.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> .
>> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46759d1e$1@linux...
>>> I think you could more easily do all your automation in Cubase -
>>> you could use this board for EQ & summing on mixdown. Still
>>> haven't found a plugin EQ that sounds like an analog one, so
>>> I guess that's what I'd like to have it for.
>>>
>>> In termsof the tracking phase of things, it'd be nice to have
>>> for monitor mixes, as with any console. I have enough pre's for
>>> most tasks, but I sure like that Trident sound... wonder if
>>> these boards really get you there?
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>> I called PMI about 8 months ago about this board. No automation options.
>>>> What a POS.
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Graham Duncan" <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:46759699$1
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pany !Please send me your green light when you're done please and congrats !http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/n8n12/index.html

When I heard Yammy married Steiny, I was hoping for some products that
really integrated Cubase and a mixer/controller. This may be what I was
hoping for. I hope it really has quality sound.

It's available in Britain but not yet the US. GBP899.00 = U$1,782.18HI Bill,
Yes they do look promising. Hopefully the analog end sounds good. They
definitely seems to have paid more attention to feature for the home
studio market. It actually seem to have a more outputs on it which is a
big sore point withe the Mackie Onyx and all the clones of it. Looks
like a hybrid between the O1x and O1v but I sure hope it isn't still
using M-Lan. That could be its Achilles heel.

Chris



Bill L wrote:
> http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/n8n12/index.html
>
> When I heard Yammy married Steiny, I was hoping for some products that
> really integrated Cubase and a mixer/controller. This may be what I
> was hoping for. I hope it really has quality sound.
>
> It's available in Britain but not yet the US. GBP899.00 = U$1,782.18

--
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wow. They should change their motto to:

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Re: Ping Mac users/UAD1 installation on a Mac [message #84935 is a reply to message #84932] Mon, 21 May 2007 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C7B18C.6971EC40--Well, here's my favorite example. Sitting IDLE, not doing anything, with no
applications running, the OS reports using half a gig or RAM. That's not
a problem in the sense that memory is cheap, but it's offensive to my computing
sensibilities. Presumably all of those processes that are making sure you
can't listen to your own music or install a driver take up that memory.

It's also just butt ugly.

TCB

Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I'm not baiting you - just curious - why do you hate Vista so much? I
>really know little about it other than the fact that i won't be moving
>to it immediately.
>
>TCB wrote:
>> Well, you obviously have vastly greater processing needs than I do, but
one
>> thing in this post sent shivers down my spine. At some point in the future
>> I'm going to have to a) move to Vista or b) move to something else. I
despise
>> Vista, it is an evil, horrible, repulsive tool of corporate control disguised
>> as a very bad operating system. It makes you stupider just looking at
it
>> for a few hours. But at some point if I want to run Live 7 (or something
>> similar) I'll have no choice but to move off of XP, which means either
Vista
>> or whatever feline Apple is stuffing down the throats of their users.

>>
>> The horror.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>> I've been sitting around here frettin' about building another DAW. The

>>> reason for the chagrin is latency and resource limitations. I have resigned
>>
>>> myself to staying with my Opteron 185
Re: Ping Mac users/UAD1 installation on a Mac [message #84938 is a reply to message #84935] Mon, 21 May 2007 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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....DM2k.)



"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:46768c94@linux...
> HI Bill,
> Yes they do look promising. Hopefully the analog end sounds good. They
> definitely seems to have paid more attention to feature for the home
> studio market. It actually seem to have a more outputs on it which is a
> big sore point withe the Mackie Onyx and all the clones of it. Looks like
> a hybrid between the O1x and O1v but I sure hope it isn't still using
> M-Lan. That could be its Achilles heel.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Bill L wrote:
>> http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/n8n12/index.html
>>
>> When I heard Yammy married Steiny, I was hoping for some products that
>> really integrated Cubase and a mixer/controller. This may be what I was
>> hoping for. I hope it really has quality sound.
>>
>> It's available in Britain but not yet the US. GBP899.00 = U$1,782.18
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762Kinda OT, kinda not...Your report of Vista is consistent with others I've
heard...which makes me wonder why dedicated recording HD systems are not
more prevalent...

Even though it took 3 years to release after it was announced, I am DYING
to fully demo the Tascam X48...supposedly runs VSTs, DX, etc...and does not
rely on XP, Vista, anything...

FWIW: Radar (my favorite recording machine beyond ANY doubt) runs off BeOS...and
(get this!) the lowly Reaper DAW can import, manipulate, and export tracks
IN RADAR'S FORMAT!!! No format conversion necessary - all digital, still
played back thru Radar's DA is you wish...

To my thinking, this is HUGE...forward thinking at its finest, incorporating
a nearly free application with THE gold standard of ADDA and recording...

If only Samplitude would follow suit...but I digress...the X48 may have some
quirks yet to be worked out, but it does look very promising for those of
us who really do NOT want to hassle with standard Windows/Vista/OSX issues...



"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Well, here's my favorite example. Sitting IDLE, not doing anything, with
no
>applications running, the OS reports using half a gig or RAM. That's not
>a problem in the sense that memory is cheap, but it's offensive to my computing
>sensibilities. Presumably all of those processes that are making sure you
>can't listen to your own music or install a driver take up that memory.

>
>It's also just butt ugly.
>
>TCB
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>I'm not baiting you - just curious - why do you hate Vista so much? I
>>really know little about it other than the fact that i won't be moving

>>to it immediately.
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>> Well, you obviously have vastly greater processing needs than I do, but
>one
>>> thing in this post sent shivers down my spine. At some point in the future
>>> I'm going to have to a) move to Vista or b) move to something else. I
>despise
>>> Vista, it is an evil, horrible, repulsive tool of corporate control disguised
>>> as a very bad operating system. It makes you stupider just looking at
>it
>>> for a few hours. But at some point if I want to run Live 7 (or something
>>> similar) I'll have no choice but to move off of XP, which means either
>Vista


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>>> or whatever feline Apple is stuffing down the throats of their users.
>
>>>
>>> The horror.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>> I've been sitting around here frettin' about building another DAW. The
>
>>>> reason for the chagrin is latency and resource limitations. I have resigned
>>>
>>>> myself to staying with my Opteron 185 (5.2GHz on two cores) system.
I've
>>>
>>>> been doing a bit of experimentation with some things and I've decided
>to
>>>
>>>> just "live with" ASIO driect monitoring instead of trying to go the
route
>>> of
>>>> "real time" zero latency tracking. ADM with the HDSP cards works so

>>>> flawlessly that I don't think I'm going to be needing to go to the server
>>>
>>>> level system right now as long as I've got the slave DAW running systemlink.
>>>
>>>> VStack sorta' sucks for my purposes though. I'm probably going to get
>
>>>> another version of Cubase for the slave comp due to the bussing limitations
>>>
>>>> in VStack. Maybe in another year when Steinberg has their apps optomized
>>> for
>>>> dual socket Quad core systems and Vista is a bit further down the road.
>>>> I've also been looking at the new Macs and I'm waiting to see what the
>
>>>> newest incarnation of Logic will hold.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>:-p

DJ wrote:
> Can these be daisy chained? Do they have insert points and digital I/O? I
> like the concept but HTF am I going to interface 6 devices via
> AES/Spdif/Optical and 21 analog eq/comps at mixdown with these? (yeah, you
> don't have to say it.......I know......DM2k.)
>
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:46768c94@linux...
>
>>HI Bill,
>>Yes they do look promising. Hopefully the analog end sounds good. They
>>definitely seems to have paid more attention to feature for the home
>>studio market. It actually seem to have a more outputs on it which is a
>>big sore point withe the Mackie Onyx and all the clones of it. Looks like
>>a hybrid between the O1x and O1v but I sure hope it isn't still using
>>M-Lan. That could be its Achilles heel.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>Bill L wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.yamahasynth.com/products/n8n12/index.html
>>>
>>>When I heard Yammy married Steiny, I was hoping for some products that
>>>really integrated Cubase and a mixer/controller. This may be what I was
>>>hoping for. I hope it really has quality sound.
>>>
>>>It's available in Britain but not yet the US. GBP899.00 = U$1,782.18
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>
>
>AND, the X48 has a built-in 80GB hard drive!!! What would you do with
"all that space"??? ;-)

David.

wireline wrote:

> Kinda OT, kinda not...Your report of Vista is consistent with others I've
> heard...which makes me wonder why dedicated recording HD systems are not
> more prevalent...
>
> Even though it took 3 years to release after it was announced, I am DYING
> to fully demo the Tascam X48...supposedly runs VSTs, DX, etc...and does not
> rely on XP, Vista, anything...
>
> FWIW: Radar (my favorite recording machine beyond ANY doubt) runs off BeOS...and
> (get this!) the lowly Reaper DAW can import, manipulate, and export tracks
> IN RADAR'S FORMAT!!! No format conversion necessary - all digital, still
> played back thru Radar's DA is you wish...
>
> To my thinking, this is HUGE...forward thinking at its finest, inco
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alted technology evolves, so they get left behind. Or,
I guess they COULD, if they were able to garner enough market
share to be profitable, and hence make it possible for the
company to put money back into R&D.

They're also usually not as versatile, and there are always
compatibility issues if you have work that goes back & forth
between other studios.

I mean, think about it - how many pro-level dedicated digital
platforms have survived in a healthy way for very long?


NeilI think there are lots of compelling reasons to use a computer for recording,
I just don't think there's ANYTHING compelling about Vista.

TCB

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t's not
>>a problem in the sense that memory is cheap, but it's offensive to my computing
>>sensibilities. Presumably all of those processes that are making sure you
>>can't listen to your own music or install a driver take up that memory.
>
>>
>>It's also just butt ugly.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>I'm not baiting you - just curious - why do you hate Vista so much? I

>>>really know little about it other than the fact that i won't be moving
>
>>>to it immediately.
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>> Well, you obviously have vastly greater processing needs than I do,
but
>>one
>>>> thing in this post sent shivers down my spine. At some point in the
future
>>>> I'm going to have to a) move to Vista or b) move to something else.
I
>>despise
>>>> Vista, it is an evil, horrible, repulsive tool of corporate control
disguised
>>>> as a very bad operating system. It makes you stupider just looking at
>>it
>>>> for
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e the 4 MEC setup will work if this is so flakey with my gear?

Thanks for any new ideas you have.
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Re:SOLVED/UAD1 installation on a Mac [message #84972 is a reply to message #84971] Mon, 21 May 2007 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re:SOLVED/UAD1 installation on a Mac [message #84992 is a reply to message #84972] Tue, 22 May 2007 06:00 Go to previous message
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now you need me to =
survive so=20
>> you better do what I say or I'll cut you off*. You can't seriously =
not see=20
>> that. Jesus saw it. Teach a man to fish.. ringing any bells?
>>=20
>>> If we are waiting on big business to continue to foot the bill for =

>>> employer
>>> pid medical insurance, well, thoes days are coming to and drastic =
end.=20
>>> Even
>>> with the employers like GM are not going to continue to give their =

>>> employee
>>> top notch medical care.
>>=20
>> Nope, they're not going to continue it. Everyone is tired of being =
bilked=20
>> for being responsible by those that aren't. The $100 aspirin? That =
is very=20
>> very likely to have come from greasy suit happy lawyers/clients and =
free=20
>> loaders.
>>=20
>>> This is a cultural issure. Tehre are those in this country who =
belive that
>>> great health care is not for all , but only to those who can =
afford it..
>>=20
>> There are those that believe it should be given scot free to them =
from my=20
>> hard work. Your point? This isn't cultural unless you count illegal =
entry=20
>> into the country and laziness as a culture. Add welfare state to =
that,=20
>> though it's not a 100% as are not the other catagories. =
Unfortunately we=20
>> don't have the resources to successfully divide these groups into =
the=20
>> trying/not trying sub groups with exception to the laziness group.
>>=20
>>> Now: other than the top 3 percent earners in this country, who can =
pay for
>>> a decent medical insurance plan (not top notched) today??? Not =
many=20
>>> families
>>> can afford on average $600-1000 per month for health care..With =
rising=20
>>> fuel
>>> cost, food, utilities...it's just not in the budget for mant these =
days..
>>=20
>> Where did those figures arive from? I'm not saying health care 'is' =

>> affordable, but I would like to get some idea of how you came to =
those=20
>> numbers as an average.
>>=20
>>> And, if you are one of fortunate millionairs, well, you are only =
one=20
>>> catstrophic
>>> illness away from seeing all of your fortune sucked away...That's=20
>>> horrible!!
>>> to work hard to acheive financial freedom, only to have it sucked =
from you
>>> because you "aford it"... What happens when another loved one has =
some=20
>>> debilitating
>>> disorder ????
>>=20
>> Millionaire or not, we all face this divide. Being super rich or =
super broke=20
>> makes no difference here. At current system/rates, they'll get your =
money=20
>> for any serious long term illness either way. And old age is =
considered a=20
>> long term illness these days, curable only by death. That sucks, =
but it's a=20
>> reality we all better prepare for in the event we live into =
retirement or=20
>> beyond.
>>=20
>>> The goverment system won't be great, but if packaged as a 60-70 =
percent=20
>>> "supplement"
>>> to your employer or self paid medical plan, then all can have =
dignified=20
>>> health
>>> coverage.
>>=20
>> And who pays the other 30-40 percent on t
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