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Re: Cubase may have finally arrived [message #96919 is a reply to message #96914] Sun, 16 March 2008 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Cubase may have finally arrived [message #96932 is a reply to message #96909] Sun, 16 March 2008 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
Messages: 766
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t; AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>
> Man! what a find. I Think
>
> If this will work:
> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
> software? (Paris use only)

Personally, I'd wipe the system and use whatever system restore/Windows XP
disc came with it.. assuming one did. If not, then yeah download
http://free.grisoft.com the free version of AVG, complete scan/clean it, and
if you will never connect to the internet you can remove the program.
However, it's free so I would probably just kill the services when I start
up because you never know when a client might bring you a 'present' on a CD,
DVD or hard drive with their project. You'll also want to run a clean system
sweep for spyware. Windows Defender oughta cover that, and it's free also
from www.microsoft.com if you need it. While you're connected to the
internet, also check for any driver updates, but don't get 'feature rich' on
the software. Base drivers only. Don't get a bunch of windows updates
pertaining to security and network either, just slows down the system.
Memory serving, my Paris machine uses something like 0%~1% CPU at idle and
80 Mbytes of memory before launching paris. That is Service Pack 1 and no
internet/security updates... it 'never' sees the internet.
FWIW, I'm using an AMD 1900+ in my Paris rig on 512 RAM. A 600w power supply
was enough to run a UAD, 2 video cards and 3 EDS cards, if that helps you
guage power requirements.

> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?

It's more about killing unneeded services. www.musicxp.net

> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?

Make sure you have a solid system first. Buy an image program, image the
disc. Update the image as you move along in the install process. Check with
the motherboard manufacturer to see which PCI slots share IRQ's. Don't put
an EDS card on with video IRQ slots (usually the AGP and the one next to it,
but not always). Make sure the power supply is up to snuff for running the
amount of EDS cards you plan to put in it. Use a 2nd hard drive for audio
data. If you're not using stuff like the network, USB or firewire (or COM
ports for that matter) disable them in the BIOS if it's onboard.

AAmusicxp isn't as easy to get at now... instead try this:

http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

AA


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:482cf696@linux...
>
> "Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
>> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
>> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right now
>> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
>> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
>> Surplus
>> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That
>> would
>> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they
>> began
>> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
>> conversation
>> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>>
>> So with all that said, will this work.
>>
>> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
>> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>>
>> Man! what a find. I Think
>>
>> If this will work:
>> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
>> software? (Paris use only)
>
> Personally, I'd wipe the system and use whatever system restore/Windows XP
> disc came with it.. assuming one did. If not, then yeah download
> http://free.grisoft.com the free version of AVG, complete scan/clean it,
> and if you will never connect to the internet you can remove the program.
> However, it's free so I would probably just kill the services when I start
> up because you never know when a client might bring you a 'present' on a
> CD, DVD or hard drive with their project. You'll also want to run a clean
> system sweep for spyware. Windows Defender oughta cover that, and it's
> free also from www.microsoft.com if you need it. While you're connected to
> the internet, also check for any driver updates, but don't get 'feature
> rich' on the software. Base drivers only. Don't get a bunch of windows
> updates pertaining to security and network either, just slows down the
> system. Memory serving, my Paris machine uses something like 0%~1% CPU at
> idle and 80 Mbytes of memory before launching paris. That is Service Pack
> 1 and no internet/security updates... it 'never' sees the internet.
> FWIW, I'm using an AMD 1900+ in my Paris rig on 512 RAM. A 600w power
> supply was enough to run a UAD, 2 video cards and 3 EDS cards, if that
> helps you guage power requirements.
>
>> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
>
> It's more about killing unneeded services. www.musicxp.net
>
>> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
>
> Make sure you have a solid system first. Buy an image program, image the
> disc. Update the image as you move along in the install process. Check
> with the motherboard manufacturer to see which PCI slots share IRQ's.
> Don't put an EDS card on with video IRQ slots (usually the AGP and the one
> next to it, but not always). Make sure the power supply is up to snuff for
> running the amount of EDS cards you plan to put in it. Use a 2nd hard
> drive for audio data. If you're not using stuff like the network, USB or
> firewire (or COM ports for that matter) disable them in the BIOS if it's
> onboard.
>
> AA
>
>Hey Aaron,

Thanks for the advice and no a disc did not come with it. I just brought
the Trend Micro Anti-virus plus Anti-spyware is this a good idea or not compared
to the one you recommend.


"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
>news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Guys,
>>
>> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
>> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
>> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right
now
>> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
>> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the

>> Surplus
>> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That

>> would
>> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they

>> began
>> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the

>> conversation
>> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>>
>> So with all that said, will this work.
>>
>> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
>> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>>
>> Man! what a find. I Think
>>
>> If this will work:
>> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
>> software? (Paris use only)
>
>Personally, I'd wipe the system and use whatever system restore/Windows
XP
>disc came with it.. assuming one did. If not, then yeah download
>http://free.grisoft.com the free version of AVG, complete scan/clean it,
and
>if you will never connect to the internet you can remove the program.
>However, it's free so I would probably just kill the services when I start

>up because you never know when a client might bring you a 'present' on a
CD,
>DVD or hard drive with their project. You'll also want to run a clean system

>sweep for spyware. Windows Defender oughta cover that, and it's free also

>from www.microsoft.com if you need it. While you're connected to the
>internet, also check for any driver updates, but don't get 'feature rich'
on
>the software. Base drivers only. Don't get a bunch of windows updates
>pertaining to security and network either, just slows down the system.
>Memory serving, my Paris machine uses something like 0%~1% CPU at idle and

>80 Mbytes of memory before launching paris. That is Service Pack 1 and no

>internet/security updates... it 'never' sees the internet.
>FWIW, I'm using an AMD 1900+ in my Paris rig on 512 RAM. A 600w power supply

>was enough to run a UAD, 2 video cards and 3 EDS cards, if that helps you

>guage power requirements.
>
>> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
>
>It's more about killing unneeded services. www.musicxp.net
>
>> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
>
>Make sure you have a solid system first. Buy an image program, image the

>disc. Update the image as you move along in the install process. Check with

>the motherboard manufacturer to see which PCI slots share IRQ's. Don't put

>an EDS card on with video IRQ slots (usually the AGP and the one next to
it,
>but not always). Make sure the power supply is up to snuff for running the

>amount of EDS cards you plan to put in it. Use a 2nd hard drive for audio

>data. If you're not using stuff like the network, USB or firewire (or COM

>ports for that matter) disable them in the BIOS if it's onboard.
>
>AA
>
>Last I looked Trend was cool to use. They're been around a while.
AA

"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:482cfd99$1@linux...
>
> Hey Aaron,
>
> Thanks for the advice and no a disc did not come with it. I just brought
> the Trend Micro Anti-virus plus Anti-spyware is this a good idea or not
> compared
> to the one you recommend.
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>"Terry Thomas" <god1stjt@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>news:482ceb6c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>>
>>> As I have posted before I am using Win 98, But for the last month I have
>>> been looking for a computer that has XP, and I think I have found a gem.
>>> My wife is a RN and about a year ago she became a traveling RN. Right
> now
>>> she is working in Columbia, SC at The Richland Palmetto Health Hospital.
>>> So one night she asked some of the other nurses if they knew where the
>
>>> Surplus
>>> store was in the area, because she was "Looking for her husband" (That
>
>>> would
>>> be me) a computer with something called XP. (Now that's funny) So they
>
>>> began
>>> to give her direction to the store, when another nurse joined in on the
>
>>> conversation
>>> and said "I have one he can have. (Free)
>>>
>>> So with all that said, will this work.
>>>
>>> AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100 + 1.73 GHz
>>> 512 MB of Ram 1 AGP Slot 5 PCI Slot
>>>
>>> Man! what a find. I Think
>>>
>>> If this will work:
>>> 1 Should I run an Antivirus before installing Paris and then delete the
>>> software? (Paris use only)
>>
>>Personally, I'd wipe the system and use whatever system restore/Windows
> XP
>>disc came with it.. assuming one did. If not, then yeah download
>>http://free.grisoft.com the free version of AVG, complete scan/clean it,
> and
>>if you will never connect to the internet you can remove the program.
>>However, it's free so I would probably just kill the services when I start
>
>>up because you never know when a client might bring you a 'present' on a
> CD,
>>DVD or hard drive with their project. You'll also want to run a clean
>>system
>
>>sweep for spyware. Windows Defender oughta cover that, and it's free also
>
>>from www.microsoft.com if you need it. While you're connected to the
>>internet, also check for any driver updates, but don't get 'feature rich'
> on
>>the software. Base drivers only. Don't get a bunch of windows updates
>>pertaining to security and network either, just slo
Re: Cubase may have finally arrived [message #96933 is a reply to message #96915] Sun, 16 March 2008 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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Registered: August 2006
Senior Member
ws down the system.
>>Memory serving, my Paris machine uses something like 0%~1% CPU at idle and
>
>>80 Mbytes of memory before launching paris. That is Service Pack 1 and no
>
>>internet/security updates... it 'never' sees the internet.
>>FWIW, I'm using an AMD 1900+ in my Paris rig on 512 RAM. A 600w power
>>supply
>
>>was enough to run a UAD, 2 video cards and 3 EDS cards, if that helps you
>
>>guage power requirements.
>>
>>> 2 What should I delete from the system so Paris can run smooth?
>>
>>It's more about killing unneeded services. www.musicxp.net
>>
>>> 3 What should I do or not do before installing Paris?
>>
>>Make sure you have a solid system first. Buy an image program, image the
>
>>disc. Update the image as you move along in the install process. Check
>>with
>
>>the motherboard manufacturer to see which PCI slots share IRQ's. Don't put
>
>>an EDS card on with video IRQ slots (usually the AGP and the one next to
> it,
>>but not always). Make sure the power supply is up to snuff for running the
>
>>amount of EDS cards you plan to put in it. Use a 2nd hard drive for audio
>
>>data. If you're not using stuff like the network, USB or firewire (or COM
>
>>ports for that matter) disable them in the BIOS if it's onboard.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>5

"Goran Stojiljkovic" <goran.stojiljkovic@os.t-com.hr> wrote:
> 5
>"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>news:C445283F.AE78%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> Set aside the "it's not going to happen" stuff for now. For the sake of

>> this
>> hypothetical, let's just assume there were a chance.
>>
>> For our hypothetical, let's further assume the following:
>>
>> 1) WinXP for sure. Support for earlier OS' unknown. No Mac OS9 support.
>>
>> 2) All I/Os accessible - including all MEC expansion ca
Re: Cubase may have finally arrived [message #96935 is a reply to message #96919] Sun, 16 March 2008 22:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Messages: 424
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/a>> wrote:
>>
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5232639329002339531
>
> When Chuck Norris sends in his taxes, he sends blank forms and includes only
> a picture of himself, crouched and ready to attack. Chuck Norris has not
> had to pay taxes, ever.‰
>
>Hi All,

I have a feeling I'm the only one running PARIS on a dual core CPU, but I
found a better way to do it.

There is utility available at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/252867

that allows you to assign any driver on your system to a specific CPU. If
you set the paris driver to one cpu and set the Paris application to the
same CPU using the THG Task Assignment Manager, you can run Paris on any
CPU in your system without having C16 lockups. This will be awesome when
I can finally upgrade to a quad core. Yeeeeeehaw!!!

Mike :)Chuck is so old, who's afraid of him anymore ?

http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/Chuck%20Norris%20Action%20Fig ure.jpgOh, he may be aged, but he is still fearsome.

Once the heavy bag in the workout room trembled at the approach of Chuck
Norris. Today, it is the colostomy bag in the downstairs bathroom that
trembles at the approach of Chuck Norris; point is, he still scares 'em.

- K

On 5/17/08 12:54 PM, in article 482f3801$1@linux, "John" <
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That would be a DP/Pro hall reverb as ported by our guy Mike
>>
>>
>
>Which Ted can't hear because he's on a Mac :>(
>
>Note: is this an appropriate post for this section of the forum? I honestly
don't even know what the "general" area is (I only get IDEA.EMUEnsoniqPARIS,
whatever that is)... apologies if I should have posted to a different
area...

I went out last week to try a Larrivee acoustic at the local shop. The
salesguy asked me a few questions about what I was looking for,
pointed out a nice Larrivee LV-09E, but also invited me to try this
Stonebridge 23CR.

I didn't know much about Stonebridge, but he told me a bit about them,
and a later search on the web revealed a few things. Made in the Czech
Republic (well known for luthiers making other stringed instruments
like violins and cellos, but a relatively new comer to the world of
acoustic guitars). The 23CR is solid rosewood back/sides, a very nice
cedar top, ebony fingerboard, tusq saddle and nut. No electronics at
all, so you have to account for the addition of <whatever> if you're
going to compare it with the Larrive LV-09E.


First chord I strummed was stunning on the Stonebridge. Chimes like a
piano. Just unbelievable. In comparison, the Larrivee sounded muffled
(note that the Larrivee has a spruce top, which takes a bit longer to
open up than the Stonebridge's cedar top, if I recall?).


Since I know little about acoustic guitars, and also since I don't
have such good ears, I wanted to ask around and see what others know
about Stonebridge. I'm sure its resale value would be a lot less than
a Larrivee or a Taylor (can hardly find any on eBay or Craigslist).
But "investment value" aside, and just for the sake of its quality and
sound, any opinions out there?


I did find a few flaws with it: (1) When bending strings, the
Stonebridge goes out of tune (whereas the Larrive staid perfectly in
tune). Is there a nut-tweaking approach to solving this? (2) No
electronics at all, though many here would consider this an advantage,<
Re: Cubase may have finally arrived [message #96940 is a reply to message #96933] Sun, 16 March 2008 21:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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br /> i.e. get the guitar you want, then add the electronics you want; (3)
Very strong mids, which might be considered an advantage, I'm just not
sure... sometimes it sounded a little nasal, but I wasn't playing my
best, was in the middle of a showroom, and didn't spend much time.


Anyhow, if any of you out there have played a Stonebridge, I'd like to
hear your opinions.


For the record, the 23CR's cost is $1900, while the Larrivee LV-09E
was $2500. Once you add the electronics into the Stonebridge, you're
about at the same cost (or close enough) to a sure-valued Larrivee.


Any input much appreciated...
DanI just bought a Winbook G35..at MicroCenter....nice deal...4gig ram,video
card,pci slot, 4 usb,XP Pro...now which 8 channel interface to buy....
"Graham Duncan" <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote in message
news:47e5923e$1@linux...
> Much appreciated Chris. I'll make sure to have him check out the laptop
> you guys sell too...
>
> GrahamThe loss of pitch when bending is probably the way the strings
were wound on the tuners or the way the strings were installed
on the bridge.

I would say to use your ears rather than caring about the brand.

You hear well enough to immediately hear the difference and
you liked the Stonebridge better. Trust your instincts.

You might want to try a Taylor too.

DCRegarding the Taylor: I was looking at Larrivee because I was led to believe
that Taylors are great, but overpriced. And the comments were along the
lines of: "you can get much more guitar out of a Larrivee"...

Good points about the strings on the Stonebridge, and that they might have
been incorrectly wound around the tuning peg.

Dan

"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4832f44d$1@linux...
>
> The loss of pitch when bending is probably the way the strings
> were wound on the tuners or the way the strings were installed
> on the bridge.
>
> I would say to use your ears rather than caring about the brand.
>
> You hear well enough to immediately hear the difference and
> you liked the Stonebridge better. Trust your instincts.
>
> You might want to try a Taylor too.
>
> DC
>you're enjoying the 12 string like harmonics you get off a cedar top with
a light satin finish most likely. Wonderful sound. Try a $400 Seagull with
the same setup.Hi Guys,

I have full confidence that Chuck will send the mac as soon as he can, but
just out of enthusiasm, I bought a copy of Codewarrior 4 off ebay yesterday.
We'll see how it goes. Chuck said he had a hell of a time before he got
the development mac.

All the best,

Mike

"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>As am I.
Re: Cubase may have finally arrived [message #96941 is a reply to message #96919] Sun, 16 March 2008 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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/> >
>WAAAANHHH!
>
>Gantt
>
>P.S. Sorry to whine.
>
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>That would be a DP/Pro hall reverb as ported by our guy Mike
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Which Ted can't hear because he's on a Mac :>(
>>
>>
>Dont know if it can help, but this free stuff analyse every VST plug on your
PC. Latency is also displayed. Sometime it crashes, but it's usable anyway,
and information are correct for those i could verify.
Vincent Burel is not a known as a beginner by any means.
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/vb-audio/us/resources/vst_scanne r/vst_scanner.htm

Damien.




"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
C444BBB1.AE56%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>A pleasure, sir - thanks for your kind words!
>
> The Wiki is a start, but what I've done so far largely amounts to
> reshuffling previously-existing data into easier-to-search formats. Same
> sh*t, different font kinda deal. But while it isn't entirely without value
> in itself, I see it simply as essential groundwork that needs to be laid
> to
> support more ambitious and important advances.
>
> - Kerry
>
> On 5/5/08 6:42 AM, in article 481f1170@linux, "Miguel Vigil"
> <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice layout Kerry and very considerate of you.
>>
>> muchisimas gracias,
>>
>> El Miguel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C4365751.AC45%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>&
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Dedric Terry is currently offline  Dedric Terry   UNITED STATES
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- PLUGIN NAME / [TAB] / LATENCY IN
>>> SAMPLES; just bring info and I'll take care of tidying it if needed.
>>>
>>> Please contribute more as you find them!
>>>
>>>
>>> - Kerry
>>>
>>
>>
>
>I don't know why no one seems to buy the lower-priced
Taylors. I have a 410 I paid 850 for about 10 years ago
and it is wonderful.

anyway, good luck with your search.

my suggestion is to try lots of them. Buy the one that speaks
to you.

DC


"D.P." <guitar.ottawa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Regarding the Taylor: I was looking at Larrivee because I was led to believe

>that Taylors are great, but overpriced. And the comments were along the

>lines of: "you can get much more guitar out of a Larrivee"...
>
>Good points about the strings on the Stonebridge, and that they might have

>been incorrectly wound around the tuning peg.
>
>Dan
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4832f44d$1@linux...
>>
>> The loss of pitch when bending is probably the way the strings
>> were wound on the tuners or the way the strings were installed
>> on the bridge.
>>
>> I would say to use your ears rather than caring about the brand.
>>
>> You hear well enough to immediately hear the difference and
>> you liked the Stonebridge better. Trust your instincts.
>>
>> You might want to try a Taylor too.
>>
>> DC
>>
>
>Heya Damien - thanks for the tip. I'm not on PC myself yet, but once I am
this will be a useful resource. Thanks!

- Kerry

On 5/20/08 11:47 AM, in article 48331f15@linux, "Damien Gelee"
<damien.gelee@club-internet.fr> wrote:

> Dont know if it can help, but this free stuff analyse every VST plug on your
> PC. Latency is also displayed. Sometime it crashes, but it's usable anyway,
> and information are correct for those i could verify.
> Vincent Burel is not a known as a beginner by any means.
> http://pagesperso-orange.fr/vb-audio/us/resources/vst_scanne r/vst_scanner.htm
>
> Damien.
>
>
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
> C444BBB1.AE56%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>> A pleasure, sir - thanks for your kind words!
>>
>> The Wiki is a start, but what I've done so far largely amounts to
>> reshuffling previously-existing data into easier-to-search formats. Same
>> sh*t, different font kinda deal. But while it isn't entirely without value
>> in itself, I see it simply as essential groundwork that needs to be laid
>> to
>> support more ambitious and important advances.
>>
>> - Kerry<
Re: Cubase may have finally arrived [message #96949 is a reply to message #96937] Sun, 16 March 2008 23:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ylor too.
>>>>
>>>> DC
>>>>
>>>
>
>Guys,

I know you are all salivating.

I've spent 1.5 of the last three months in dubai. Now under crushing pressure
at work and on the home front. Things are truly crazy, but I will try and
get the machine out Friday.

Once Mike has the machine, it is as he was thinking, a fairly straightforward
process to build. The main thing is that any new .bmps need to become .picts,
which is probably not an issue, because from what I see mike is using the
controls from stockfx. Some compiler directives need to be modified, and
project references to the .dlls for linking need to be set up.

Chuck
"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>
>Hi Guys,
>
>I have full confidence that Chuck will send the mac as soon as he can, but
>just out of enthusiasm, I bought a copy of Codewarrior 4 off ebay yesterday.
> We'll see how it goes. Chuck said he had a hell of a time before he got
>the development mac.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>As am I.
>>
>>WAAAANHHH!
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>P.S. Sorry to whine.
>>
>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>That would be a DP/Pro hall reverb as ported by our guy Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Which Ted can't hear because he's on a Mac :>(
>>>
>>>
>>
>Dan, I have a few comments...

Being a guitar player since the 70's I been through many different brands
and types of guitars and mainly acoustics. I have always been a peasant,
so I could never afford anything extravagant. But my red flags would go
up very high and fast if I was trying out an expensive guitar and it went
out of tune just by a simple play. Yes, perhaps it could be the way the
strings are wound and it could be a glitch in that guitar's heads, but I
would immediately put it down and move on.

I personally never had a guitar go out of tune because of the way I strung
it... never! When restringing a string and tuning, I adamantly bend, twist,
pluck and abuse the little bugger at first. If after the first few times
it don't stay in tune, it is most likely the heads... most likely cheap junk
heads. I did have a Kramer that done this and i replaced the heads with
good Gibson heads... never had the problem since... So I would move on to
another guitar if I was trying it out and it won't stay in tune. By the
way, I am a hard player... to where I have bloody fingers after a long sessions.
Sometimes I don't know it until I have a bit more light and see spots all
over.. lol. Yeah, i know, remind yourself not to let me play your guitar...
I heard that a zillion times... rotf.

Anyway, if a company is going to charge top dollar for a guitar, it better
perform top dollar anytime and anywhere. Period! Bottom line with me!

That said... and I am sure others will jump in here and try to dispute this...
but I am not sure where some folks are getting their information or what
they are playing, hearing and buying. Like I read an article in Musician's
Friend magazine recently about the old myth "cheap guitars"... in many cases,
those days of the "cheap" Ibanez are over (as far as quality, playability
and sound). They actually make really really good guitars these days. I
am big fan and an owner of Gibson's! I wouldn't sell any of my Gibson's
for the life of me... but I also own Ibanez too. My favorite is the EJ-160
John Lennon... I love this guitar! And I would match that up to any guitar
over $500 for sound and quality. I am not trying to start a guitar war thread...
it just pickles me to think that the 70's, and perhaps 80's mentality of
cheap-guitar is still out there with some products... Ibanez use to be the
poor man's guitar. But I honestly believe their quality has improved and
some guitars I know match up to the mor
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nk">askme@email.com>
wrote:

>
> Dan, I have a few comments...
>
> Being a guitar player since the 70's I been through many different brands
> and types of guitars and mainly acoustics. I have always been a peasant,
> so I could never afford anything extravagant. But my red flags would go
> up very high and fast if I was trying out an expensive guitar and it went
> out of tune just by a simple play. Yes, perhaps it could be the way the
> strings are wound and it could be a glitch in that guitar's heads, but I
> would immediately put it down and move on.
>
> I personally never had a guitar go out of tune because of the way I strung
> it... never! When restringing a string and tuning, I adamantly bend, twist,
> pluck and abuse the little bugger at first. If after the first few times
> it don't stay in tune, it is most likely the heads... most likely cheap junk
> heads. I did have a Kramer that done this and i replaced the heads with
> good Gibson heads... never had the problem since... So I would move on to
> another guitar if I was trying it out and it won't stay in tune. By the
> way, I am a hard player... to where I have bloody fingers after a long
> sessions.
> Sometimes I don't know it until I have a bit more light and see spots all
> over.. lol. Yeah, i know, remind yourself not to let me play your guitar...
> I heard that a zillion times... rotf.
>
> Anyway, if a company is going to charge top dollar for a guitar, it better
> perform top dollar anytime and anywhere. Period! Bottom line with me!
>
> That said... and I am sure others will jump in here and try to dispute this...
> but I am not sure where some folks are getting their information or what
> they are playing, hearing and buying. Like I read an article in Musician's
> Friend magazine recently about the old myth "cheap guitars"... in many cases,
> those days of the "cheap" Ibanez are over (as far as quality, playability
> and sound). They actually make really really good guitars these days. I
> am big fan and an owner of Gibson's! I wouldn't sell any of my Gibson's
> for the life of me... but I also own Ibanez too. My favorite is the EJ-160
> John Lennon... I love this guitar! And I would match that up to any guitar
> over $500 for sound and quality. I am not trying to start a guitar war
> thread...
> it just pickles me to think that the 70's, and perhaps 80's mentality of
> cheap-guitar is still out there with some products... Ibanez use to be the
> poor man's guitar. But I honestly believe their quality has improved and
> some guitars I know match up to the more extravagant.
>
> Lastly, in my opinion you are in the proper newsgroup and not off topic...
> politics and someone's back yard animal is off topic. Music related is not...
> that's just my opinion and hope others feel the same...
>
> Have a great day and do yourself a favor and try out those Ibanez and save
> yourself hundreds... unless you just like spending money... I am still
> a peasant and can't do that.
>Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Don, if you haven't committed to an instrument yet -
>
>I went to the local guitar boutique many times with my engineer to cost
out
>instruments for recording and to look at a wide range of prices. We kept
>coming back to the cut-rate Martins (the DX series with the composite
>necks). It's true that out of the ones I've tried some have been uneven
in
>quality/tone, ranging from superb down to merely "good". But the superb
ones
>have been amazing - not "good for their price", just "really good" - they've
>completely blown away guitars costing six or seven times as much, including
>much more expensive Martins. The best ones have definitely got "that thing"
>that says "record me".
>
>If you can get a bunch of them together and find the "pick of the litter"
>you might be pretty surprised at what you're holding for $500.
>
>- Kerry
>


That is directed to me and what I posted?Hey guys, typically I print stems the old fashioned way (manual bouncing 2
tracks at a time). For the first time I experimented with rendering the tracks
via Paris's "Render Track to Disk". It certainly saved me lots of time and
the tracks "0" out which does not happen to that exactness when manually
bouncing tracks.

I am now using all the "rendered tracks" and my project is giving me occasional
playback error messages such as "adjust playback settings&
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mahogany back/sides instead of rosewood.

I agree that with acoustics in particular you just have to play a ton of
them to find the right one, but in my experience the really expensive ones
_do_ sound better. I've played a bunch of really crap sounding cheap acoustics
while I've never heard a bad Collings or Breedlove. Doesn't mean the great
sounding $300 Takmine isn't out there, but I think the boutique guys are
just a lot more selective about the wood they use.

TCB

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>I, too, have a 400 series Ta
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ylor, a 414K I bought in 1999 because it sounded

>so good. I've had nothing but compliments on the sound of this, both live

>and recorded. I was originally thinking about the fancier, spendier 714,

>but this one sounded better to me. Don is right, and I use the same phrase

>in advising people on guitar purchases . . . find one that speaks to you.

>Do it blindfolded or something, so you have only your ears and fingers to

>judge. Maybe you'll wind up with a $300 Takamine. :)
>
>S
>
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:483345bc$1@linux...
>>
>> I don't know why no one seems to buy the lower-priced
>> Taylors. I have a 410 I paid 850 for about 10 years ago
>> and it is wonderful.
>>
>> anyway, good luck with your search.
>>
>> my suggestion is to try lots of them. Buy the one that speaks
>> to you.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "D.P." <guitar.ottawa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Regarding the Taylor: I was looking at Larrivee because I was led to
>>>believe
>>
>>>that Taylors are great, but overpriced. And the comments were along the
>>
>>>lines of: "you can get much more guitar out of a Larrivee"...
>>>
>>>Good points about the strings on the Stonebridge, and that they might
have
>>
>>>been incorrectly wound around the tuning peg.
>>>
>>>Dan
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4832f44d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> The loss of pitch when bending is probably the way the strings
>>>> were wound on the tuners or the way the strings were installed
>>>> on the bridge.
>>>>
>>>> I would say to use your ears rather than caring about the brand.
>>>>
>>>> You hear well enough to immediately hear the difference and
>>>> you liked the Stonebridge better. Trust your instincts.
>>>>
>>>> You might want to try a Taylor too.
>>>>
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a few years
>until last summer, and remembered the debate between Sakis and
>others over whether rendered files - with or without plugins -
>were as accurate as bounced files. So far so good.
>
>Ted
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:

>For me Virtualbox does all of that swimmingly,
>but I don't need to copy and paste Autocad output into Photoshop on the
host
>OS. You might.

Current Autocad versions generate nice PDF's so if I get trouble with
overloading the clipboard (which I have heard is not a problem with at
least 4G ram) then I could always drop the pdf into PS.


>As far as malware and viruses, you're VM will be exactly as likely to have
>problems as an actual hardware XP box. As I always say, if you don't click
>on email attachments, keep the XP firewall on, and don't go to porn sites,
>you're good on that front 99% of the time.


Oh swell, so I can turn a Mac into all the worst sort of of PC buggery
AND it costs 3K.

Mac guys are Nutz.

DC

thanks for the info! http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/3157/Taylor_Custom_Shop_P allet.htm

S


"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:48358174$1@linux...
>
> I've always l
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a 410 I paid 850 for about 10 years ago
>>> and it is wonderful.
>>>
>>> anyway, good luck with your search.
>>>
>>> my suggestion is to try lots of them. Buy the one that speaks
>>> to you.
>>>
>>> DC
>>>
>>>
>>> "D.P." <guitar.ottawa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Regarding the Taylor: I was looking at Larrivee because I was led to
>>>>believe
>>>
>>>>that Tayl
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ors are great, but overpriced. And the comments were along the
>>>
>>>>lines of: "you can get much more guitar out of a Larrivee"...
>>>>
>>>>Good points about the strings on the Stonebridge, and that they might
> have
>>>
>>>>been incorrectly wound around the tuning peg.
>>>>
>>>>Dan
>>>>
>>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote in message news:4832f44d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> The loss of pitch when bending is probably the way the strings
>>>>> were wound on the tuners or the way the strings were installed
>>>>> on the bridge.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would say to use your ears rather than caring about
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the brand.
>>>>>
>>>>> You hear well enough to immediately hear the difference and
>>>>> you liked the Stonebridge better. Trust your instincts.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might want to try a Taylor too.
>>>>>
>>>>> DC
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>I think if you spent a couple hours looking at eventiter you would figure
it out. There is no coding for custom guis, just editing/creating the config
files, which of course is ungodly hard :-)

Chuck

"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>
>Thanks so much, Chuck. It is very kind of you to send it.
>
>I'd love to pick your brain a bit about how the custom graphics work sometime.
> I never really did sort that out.
>
>Thanks again!
>
>Mike
>
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>Guys,
>>
>>I know you are all salivating.
>>
>>I've spent 1.5 of the last three months in dubai. Now under crushing pressure
>>at work and on the home front. Things are truly crazy, but I will try and
>>get the machine out Friday.
>>
>>Once Mike has the machine, it is as he was thinking, a fairly straightforward
>>process to build. The main thing is that any new .bmps need to become .picts,
>>which is probably not an issue, because from what I see mike is using the
>>controls from stockfx. Some compiler directives need to be modified, and
>>project references to the .dlls for linking need to be set up.
>>
>>Chuck
>>"Mike Audet" <mike@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Guys,
>>>
>>>I have full confidence that Chuck will send the mac as soon as he can,
>but
>>>just out of enthusiasm, I bought a copy of Codewarrior 4 off ebay yesterday.
>>> We'll see how it goes. Chuck said he had a hell of a time before he
got
>>>the development mac.
>>>
>>>All the best,
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>As am I.
>>>>
>>>>WAAAANHHH!
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>>
>>>>P.S. Sorry to whine.
>>>>
>>>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>>>That would be a DP/Pro hall reverb as ported by our guy Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Which Ted can't hear because he's on a Mac :>(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Hmm, now I am curious, does anyone else hear a diff?
Is the SPDIF file more open and clear?


"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Ted, If I remember right, rendered files were never in dispute, as Brian
T
>did a 10th generation render and it still canceled out. What was in dispute
>was disk bounce in 3.0 versues spdif bounce in 3.0. Sakis held the position
>that disk bounce in 3.0 was not as accurate as spdif bounce.
>Rod
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>I just recently started rendering files with native plugins
>>after testing the rendered against the edited original and
>>flipping the phase (copy channel settings to the new track
>>with the rendered file etc etc) I've been happy with the
>>result. Any prior nudging for latency (with UAD for
>>instance) is accounted for in the newly rendered file and it
>>saves time and horsepower. I hadn't used PARIS for a few years
>>until last summer, and remembered the debate between Sakis and
>>others over whether rendered files - with or without plugins -
>>were as accurate as bounced files. So far so good.
>>
>>Ted
>>
>Oh, ok... No biggie... it just seemed your post was directed toward the original
poster but replied to me... I was cornfused... lol.

And I have to correct myself about my EJ-160, it is an Epiphone, not an Ibanaz.
And I was wholeheartly referring to the Epiphone, not the Ibanez. Another
example is the electric Les Paul... pick up a Epiphone Les Paul these days...
my god! you can't tell it is not a real Gibson except for the label.

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Oh, hi Ed - I wasn't really following who said what specifically, but in
>hindsight, yes, it was your own post that inspired mine. I'd agree
>wholeheartedly that my experience c
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Messages: 424
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id a 10th generation render and it still canceled out. What was in dispute
>> was disk bounce in 3.0 versues spdif bounce in 3.0. Sakis held the position
>> that disk bounce in 3.0 was not as accurate as spdif bounce.
>> Rod
>> "Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>> I just recently started rendering files with native plugins
>>> after testing the rendered against the edited original and
>>> flipping the phase (copy channel settings to the new track
>>> with the rendered file etc etc) I've been happy with the
>>> result. Any prior nudging for latency (with UAD for
>>> instance) is accounted for in the newly rendered file and it
>>> saves time and horsepower. I hadn't used PARIS for a few years
>>> until last summer, and remembered the debate between Sakis and
>>> others over whether rendered files - with or without plugins -
>>> were as accurate as bounced files. So far so good.
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>I' running 3.2 also
Eugene
Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I'm running 3.2.
>
>Gantt
>
>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>Anybody know if version 4 will work? I can't get Paris to launch
>>with it. I am running vs 2.9.1 with Paris OK, but wanted some stuff
>>not available with that...
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ted
>Thanks Eugene and Gantt



"Eugene B" <martinlancer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I' running 3.2 also
>Eugene
>Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I'm running 3.2.
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"Ted Gerber" <tedgerber@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Anybody know if version 4 will work? I can't get Paris to launch
>>>with it. I am running vs 2.9.1 with Paris OK, but wanted some stuff
>>>not available with that...
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Ted
>>
>To me this argues _against_ the idea of the $300 dream Takamine. This would
argue that superior crasfts(wo)manship can overcome inferior materials. One
thing you'll never get from a Seagull or a Takamine is an instrument maker
really working overtime to get the absolute best quality possible out of
the wood.

Funny thing? I was _at_ the 2001 NAMM show so I probably saw this guitar,
though I don't remember it.

TCB

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> http://www.laguitarsales.com/pages/3157/Taylor_Custom_Shop_P allet.htm
>
>S
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:48358174$1@linux...
>>
>> I've always liked the sound of the Taylor 400 series, I think because
I
>> generally
>> like acoustic geetars with mahogany back/sides instead of rosewood.
>>
>> I agree that with acoustics in particular you just have to play a ton
of
>> them to find the right one, but in my experience the really expensive
ones
>> _do_ sound better. I've played a bunch of really crap sounding cheap
>> acoustics
>> while I've never heard a bad Collings or Breedlove. Doesn't mean the great
>> sounding $300 Takmine isn't out there, but I think the boutique guys are
>> just a lot more selective about the wood they use.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>>I, too, have a 400 series Taylor, a 414K I bought in 1999 because it
>>>sounded
>>
>>>so good. I've had nothing but compliments on the sound of this, both
live
>>
>>>and recorded. I was originally thinking about the fancier, spendier 714,
>>
>>>but this one sounded better to me. Don is right, and I use the same
>>>phrase
>>
>>>in advising people on guitar purchases . . . find one that speaks to you.
>>
>>>Do it blindfolded or something, so you have only your ears and fingers
to
>>
>>>judge. Maybe you'll wind up with a $300 Takamine. :)
>>>
>>>S
>>>
>>>
>>>"DC" <
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gt;>> You might want to try a Taylor too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Well, the last couple of months or so has been one of the most stressful periods
of my entire life as far as work goes. Chuck Norris jokes seemed like more
of a sane reality than the insane reality of what's been going on here. I
got sick in February.......real sick, and wasn't able to really work for
about 3 weeks and during that time I needed to be working at least 50 hours
a week on a drilling program that I had committed to, so when I got well
enough to work, the shit had hit the fan, I was behind the 8 ball and so
I spent the next 60
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ots of UAD-1 plugins
>at zero audible latency with a wonderful cue system, VSTi's, and every bell
>and whistle you can imagine, without using ASIO direct monitoring.
>ADK did a great job on this box and it wasn't real expensive. the cores
are
>running at 3.2GHz per, it's got 4G of RAM and 4 x 500G 7200 RPM SATAII HD's
>configured into a RAID 10 Array. I'm also running a pair of 750G SATAII
drives
>for audio samples and backup, respectively.
>
>Does it sound like Paris? Nope, but it sounds very good. It's possible to
>mix in Native and get "BIG". It's just a different prescription. The Neve
>5042 tape emulator doesn't hurt either.
>
>I ordered it with two system drives, one running Win XP Pro and the other
>running Win XP x64 Pro. The first drive I tested was with Win XP64. The
good
>news was that this DAW is quite a bit more powerful than my dualcore Opteron
>185 so I was able to achieve the 1.5 ms latency target that I was hoping
>for. My VSTis' are as follows:
>GPO
>Ivory
>NI B4
>NI Bandstand
>BFD
>BFDII
>Jamstix II
>Trilogy
>Drumagog
>
>I was able to load all but one of my VSTi's and that one was Ivory. This
>one wouldn't play nice with a 64 bit OS.
>
>Despite speculation from Native Instruments that the NI installer would
not
>work in Win XP x64........all of them did load.....NI B4II, GPO and Bandstand
>work fine in both the standalone and VSTi formats. It's just a matter of
>pointing them elsewhere instead of the default path it wants to use and
they
>run just fine.
>
>Performance was good at low latency, but not "as good" as I had hoped with
>high track counts. For instance, I had 60 + tracks record enabled at both
>32k and 64k buffers and was getting between 25% to 35% CPU loads. Also,
there
>was quite a bit of ASIO loading in Cubase when streaming samples in BFD
and
>BFD2. More really than with my older Opteron system.
>
>After working a while with XP64 I started loading the same programs on the
>system drive running Windows XP32. I can record enable over 100 tracks at
>32k buffers an the CPU load is around 10%.
>
>An even bigger difference is seen when playing back a project that is loaded
>down with plugin count. Playing back a 40 track project with a 70% UAD-1
>DSP while recording 8 x more tracks was getting a little dicey at 64k buffers
>on XP64 (ASIO meter occasionally spiking). With Win XP32, the ASIO load
during
>dubbing on this same project is much lower and the overall system performance
>is more solid. Sample streaming in BFD at low latencies is much improved.
>
>At higher latencies the ASIO performance is roughly equal but the overall
>performance nod goes to the XP64 because it can utilize all 4 x G of RAM
>for use with virtual instruments. However, the main point of getting this
>machine was to take advantage of it's capacity for operating at lower latencies.
>As far as low latency performance is concerned, the margin between the two
>OS'es give Win XP32 a significant edge.........significant enough to where
>I have decided to go exclusively with XP32. I have a fairly powerful systemlinked
>slave DAW to take up the slack if I run low on RAM in a mix and need more
>VSTi's (not to mention the freeze function).
>
>and yes James......I'm sure a Mac Pro can run circles around this, but a
>Mac Pro, tricked out to this degree would cost considerably more ;o).
>
>For me these days, it's about achieving a certain benchmark and that benchmark
>is to be able to use a native DAW with no audible latency, in the same way
>that I used Paris. that has been accomplished now.
>
>I just wanted to give you guys a heads up about this and also to apologize
>for being such a cantankerous wiseass (even more than usual) lately. I did
>buy some Brie recently as a gesture of solidarity with my socialist bretherin
>in France....
>
>Cheers,
>
>;o)

Vary cool bro... Glad to hear your doing better!Congratulations, Deej, on hitting the native DAW Holy Grail!

And congratulations on making it through a rough patch and pulling it off
against steep odds. The professional benchmark over at our shop here isn't
how well things go when they go well - it's about whether you can pull that
rabbit out of your hat when they aren't.

- Kerry

On 5/23/08 9:56 PM, in article 4837a001$1@linux, "Deej" <noway@jose.net>
wrote:

>
> Well, the last couple of months or so has been one of the most stressful
> periods
> of my entire life as far as work goes. Chuck Norris jokes seemed like more
> of a sane reality than the insane reality of what's been going on here. I
> got sick in February.......real sick, and wasn't able to really work for
> about 3 weeks and during that time I needed to be working at least 50 hours
> a week on a drilling program that I had committed to, so when I got well
> enough to work, the shit had hit the fan, I was behind the 8 ball and so
> I spent the next 60 days trying to stay ahead of 5 drilling rigs that had
> moved into this area (because I told them I could do what needed to get done
> to keep them busy)and unless I pulled a rabbit out of my hat, they were going
> to sit idle to the tune of $17,000.00 per day....and that was just for one
> client. another one had me doing some other stuff that was even more stressful
> so anyway, I know I've been abraisive and cranky oand a little whacked out
> so thanks for not kicking me out of the group..........and during this time,
> I've had Chris Ludwig build me a new DAW.
>
> It's an Intel Quad Core machine and is capable of playing back 40 tracks
> at 1.5ms latency while recording 8 more with a 70% DSP load of UAD-1 plugins.
> In Parisspeak, that's roughly a 3 MEC system running lots of UAD-1 plugins
> at zero audible latency with a wonderful cue system, VSTi's, and every bell
> and whistle you can imagine, without using ASIO direct monitoring.
> ADK did a great job on this box and it wasn't real expensive. the cores are
> running at 3.2GHz per, it's got 4G of RAM and 4 x 500G 7200 RPM SATAII HD's
> configured into a RAID 10 Array. I'm also running a pair of 750G SATAII drives
> for audio samples and backup, respectively.
>
> Does it sound like Paris? Nope, but it sounds very good. It's possible to
> mix in Native and get "BIG". It's just a different prescription. The Neve
> 5042 tape emulator doesn't hurt either.
>
> I ordered it with two system drives, one running Win XP Pro and the other
> running Win XP x64 Pro. The first drive I tested was with Win XP64. The good
> news was that this DAW is quite a bit more powerful than my dualcore Opteron
> 185 so I was able to achieve the 1.5 ms latency
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