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Re: Damn!!!...just like leave it to Beaver! [message #97319 is a reply to message #97315]

Sat, 22 March 2008 04:25

rick

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Re: Damn!!!...just like leave it to Beaver! [message #97332 is a reply to message #97301]

Sat, 22 March 2008 12:08

Aaron Allen

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Hey D,
Ya but I'll have a UAD (or 2?) and a Creamware Pro
along with Cubase in the same box hopefully.
Tom

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote in message =
news:48482faa$1@linux...

Hi,
I have a P4B asus motherboard running 5 eds cards.
So running 5 cards it is a no brainer with my config.
I would love to try the sixth slot on that MB but have not a working =
effect
addon card for my sixth EDS500 card to try this out.
If that would succeed (why not) then you can have 6 eds cards on a P4B =
motherboard
that can have up to 2.8 GHZ with 3gb PC133 memory.

Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Re: PCI expansion?Kerry,
>
>I suppose you're right but with all of Mike's new plugs I=3D20
>want another three cards! It's a struggle for me with four cards
>having been used to five. Now I want six.
>
>I guess someone beside Chris will have to give it another go.
>Good luck !
>
>Tom
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:C46CBEB7.B0F8%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> Yep, valid concerns; investigation definitely seems called for =
before
=3D
>anyone gets too excited.
>
> But in a world where the options for future-proofing one's PARIS =
=3D
>hardware are extremely limited (and I'd guess the majority of PARIS =
rigs
=3D
>are four cards or less - Dubvibe here in Vancouver got two JUNO =3D
>nominations and they're a one-card shop), it seems only prudent to =
make
=3D
>a few inquiries into a new one and see where they lead.=3D20
>
> Who knows? It's a newer product; maybe they've got an interest in =
=3D
>having some help getting some bugs ironed out, or (if it took them =
=3D
>little effort) in tailoring a system slightly to sell to a niche =
market.
=3D
>From my own perspective, the worst case scenario is we waste a little =
=3D
>time and wind up no worse off than before.
>
> - Kerry
>
> On 6/4/08 9:23 PM, in article 48476b8e@linux, "Tom Bruhl" =3D
><arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> So you say the power supply is too small and Chris says
> >We tried it here and it didn't seem to (work) on anything.
> >Also the power supply will be way under powered for anything =
like a
=3D
>UAD.
> =3D20
> Who cares if it's inexpensive? IRQ assignments are an unknown, =
and
=3D
>the power
> supply will assuredly need to be changed. It only has four =
slots.=3D20
>
> $900 or less and you're good to go with a 13 slot Magma setup =
like =3D
>DJs. =3D20
> Future proof for a little while anyway. Seems way to iffy to me.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =3D
>news:484751e8@linux...
> =3D20
> =3D20
> =3D20
>
>
> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message =3D
>news:C46C767D.B0F2%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
> =3D20
> By the way, Martin - the three objections so far seem to be =
1)
=3D
>size of box, 2) keying of slots and 3) power supply.
>
> You took care of the box size question. Here's a picture of =
the
=3D
>inside of one of their regular boxes, showing the keying of the =
slots -
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Re: Damn!!!...just like leave it to Beaver! [message #97344 is a reply to message #97252]

Sat, 22 March 2008 14:39

chuck duffy
Messages: 453
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Re: Damn!!!...just like leave it to Beaver! [message #97346 is a reply to message #97344]

Sat, 22 March 2008 15:34

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Registered: July 2005
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These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
Let us know.
regards,
DimitriosHi Dimitrios.

These were the brainchild of Bill Mauchly, who I understand was also
involved in PARIS (I believe he wrote the PARIS mixer code). I have Bill's
current email address; inviting him to come over to the Wiki to add
to/correct his entry and maybe doing an interview with him on the blog are
amongst the items on my (unfortunately rather long) to-do list.

Asking him about where WAVEBOY is at nowadays is *definitely* on my list.

http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=WaveB oy

http://www.kerrygalloway.com/WikiPARIS/wikka.php?wakka=BillM auchly

On 6/5/08 11:42 AM, in article 4848338f$1@linux, "Dimitrios"
<musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote:

>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ensoniq-Sampler-Waveboy-5-Effektdiskette n-Disk-Disks_W0QQi
> temZ320259981761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ46947QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
> Let us know.
> regards,
> DimitriosBy the way, if my understanding is correct, porting the WAVEBOY plugs to
PARIS was fairly well along in development years ago; I don't know what
stage it got to. It disappeared in the chaos in the post-discontinuation
phase of PARIS along with a couple of other interesting efforts.

I'm guessing the business side was the complication rather than anything
technical, but a lot of business assumptions that were valid in 2003 have
been superseded by new realities by 2008. Definitely worth renewing contact
and pursuing.

- Kerry

On 6/5/08 11:42 AM, in article 4848338f$1@linux, "Dimitrios"
<musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote:

>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ensoniq-Sampler-Waveboy-5-Effektdiskette n-Disk-Disks_W0QQi
> temZ320259981761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ46947QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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> These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
> Let us know.
> regards,
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Holy cow � how�d I overlook this in the excitement about the expansion
chassis?

http://virtuavia.eu/shop/pci-express-to-pci-adapter-p29855.h tml

If it worked with an EDS � wouldn�t this be the ticket to adapt an EDS card
to a modern, post-PCI 2.3 motherboard without an expansion chassis � for 49
Euro?

Check this thread out here � it starts getting really interesting at post
#27. What�s the physical size of a UAD vs. an EDS?

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/122120-compan y-offers-pci-pci
e-adapter.html

If this works - the game just suddenly got a lot more interesting.

- Kerry

On 6/4/08 7:29 PM, in article 484751e8@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

>
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C46C767D.B0F2%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>
>> By the way, Martin � the three objections so far seem to be 1) size of box,
>> 2) keying of slots and 3) power supply.
>>
>> You took care of the box size question. Here�s a picture of the inside of
>> one of their regular boxes, showing the keying of the slots -
>>
>> http://virtuavia.eu/shop/images/detailed_images/big_pci_to_p ci_box.jpg
>>
>> And here�s an EDS showing its keying (it�s the wrong orientation, but it
>> should be easy to match up) -
>>
>> That is the RIGHT keying for an EDS!
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.synrise.de/images/ensoniq-eds-1000.jpg
>>
>> So those look pretty good to go, at least to me.
>>
>> In my email to them I�m addressing the third � what�s the equivalent wattage
>> of their PSU and would they have any interest in making one with a PSU that
>> made PARIS happy?
>>
>> For that matter, I wonder if they�re just standard PC PSUs, meaning they
>> could be swapped out for what you like.
>>
> - Kerry
>
>
>
> Ya rock man
>

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If it worked with an EDS – wouldn’t this be the ticket to adapt=
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<a href=3D" http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/122120-compan y-offe=
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By  the way, Martin – the three objections so far seem to be 1) =
size of box, 2)  keying of slots and 3) power supply. 
 
You took care of the box size  question. Here’s a picture of the=
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<a href=3D"http://www.synrise.de/images/ensoniq-eds-1000.jpg">http://www.synr=
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In my email to them I’m  addressing the third – what&#8217=
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Assuming we conquered the first hurdle, which is strongly looking like the
PSU - I wonder if there�s any particular reason one couldn�t run *more than
one* expansion box?

- Kerry

On 6/5/08 9:50 AM, in article 48481ab4@linux, "Tom Bruhl"
<arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:

> Kerry,
>
> I suppose you're right but with all of Mike's new plugs I
> want another three cards! It's a struggle for me with four cards
> having been used to five. Now I want six...
>
> Tom
>
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>By �the way, Martin � the three objections so far seem to be 1) =
>size of box, 2) �keying of slots and 3) power supply. 
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Re: PCI expansion?yup... that's what I'd have done. I would probably in =
younger days when I had more time gone beyond that and built my own =
power supplies and skipped the whole ATX thing. Bypassing the crappy =
regulator is probably the easiest way to getting enough power through =
the chassis, BUT you will definitely want some kind of protection =
circuit depending on your supply of choice. Trashing UAD's would suck, =
and trashing EDS's would suck more. $300 a pop at The Soniq =3D a BIG =
bill. Better to build the right supply from the start, and frankly your =
EDS cards will last longer with cleaner voltage (and likely be more =
stable as well).

AA
"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message =
news:C46D7D7F.B104%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
Hey, thanks AA =E2=80=93=20

The VirtuaVia=E2=80=99s PSU is causing deal-breaking problems, and =
those need to be eliminated first before anything else can be =
determined. Here=E2=80=99s a very interesting thread from the UAD =
forums, looks like someone else was thinking the same thing as me =
=E2=80=93=20

How to get the VirtuaVia box working with multiple UAD cards

How to get the VirtuaVia box working with multiple UAD cards
by mkstat on Mon May 12, 2008 12:03 pm

A few months ago I bought a Virtua Via PCIe to PCI expansion chassis =
for my new MacPro 8x3GHz to run my PCI UAD cards.
The reason why the VV box doesn=C2=B4t work properly with more than =
one UAD cards is because of a weak powersupply. The included external =
PSU delivers 12V/3A and unfortunately the maximum rating of the internal =
(on the card) 5V step-down switching regulator (2596) is also limited to =
3A. So using a higher power rating 12V PSU is pointless. The UAD manual =
says: =E2=80=9EEach UAD card uses a maximum of 14 watts of 5 volt power =
from the PCI bus=E2=80=9C =E2=80=93 in other words each card draws 2.8A =
at 5V from the PSU. So there is no chance for safe operation of more =
than one card plugged in the chassis. I actually had problems with just =
one card at higher cpu loads (80%+) in form of dropouts.

BUT:
After disabling the on-card 5V step-down switching regulator and =
connecting a 400W ATX computer powersupply directly to the PCB in the VV =
box a setup with 3 UAD cards (each with 95% CPU load) worked flawlessly! =
=20

The modification is quite easy and safe to do for people with some =
experience in electronics and PCB soldering skills.

For those who are interested I will post a step by step guide with =
some pics for this modification during next week.

-Markus
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Re: PCI expansion?I dunno if that flimsy looking thing would physically =
support the weight of an EDS, much less how to attach the connection =
side to the PC chassis? I bet you'd get better bandwidth throughput =
though.=20

AA

"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message =
news:C46D89E9.B110%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
Holy cow - how'd I overlook this in the excitement about the expansion =
chassis?

http://virtuavia.eu/shop/pci-express-to-pci-adapter-p29855.h tml

If it worked with an EDS - wouldn't this be the ticket to adapt an EDS =
card to a modern, post-PCI 2.3 motherboard without an expansion chassis =
- for 49 Euro?

Check this thread out here - it starts getting really interesting at =
post #27. What's the physical size of a UAD vs. an EDS?

=
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/122120-compan y-offers-pci-=
pcie-adapter.html

If this works - the game just suddenly got a lot more interesting.

- Kerry

On 6/4/08 7:29 PM, in article 484751e8@linux, "Aaron Allen" =
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:

"Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message =
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=20
By the way, Martin - the three objections so far seem to be 1) =
size of box, 2) keying of slots and 3) power supply.

You took care of the box size question. Here's a picture of the =
inside of one of their regular boxes, showing the keying of the slots - =

=
http://virtuavia.eu/shop/images/detailed_images/big_pci_to_p ci_box.jpg

And here's an EDS showing its keying (it's the wrong orientation, =
but it should be easy to match up) -
=20
That is the RIGHT keying for an EDS!=20

http://www.synrise.de/images/ensoniq-eds-1000.jpg

So those look pretty good to go, at least to me.=20

In my email to them I'm addressing the third - what's the =
equivalent wattage of their PSU and would they have any interest in =
making one with a PSU that made PARIS happy?

For that matter, I wonder if they're just standard PC PSUs, =
meaning they could be swapped out for what you like.

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=96 for 49=20
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interesting=20
at post #27. What=92s the physical size of a UAD vs. an EDS? <A =

=
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=
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 here=92s an EDS showing its keying (it=92s the wrong =
orientation, but it=20
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<SPAN=20
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=
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Sat, 22 March 2008 15:16

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D"1"> 
How to get the=
VirtuaVia box working with multiple  UAD cards 
by  </F=
ONT><SPA=
N STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>mkstat on Mon May 12, 2008  12:03 pm 
<=
BR>
A few months ago I bought a Virtua Via PCIe to PCI  expansion chassis =
for my new MacPro 8x3GHz to run my PCI UAD cards. 
The  reason why the VV box doesn´t work properly with more than =
one UAD cards is  because of a weak powersupply. The included external =
PSU delivers 12V/3A and  unfortunately the maximum rating of the intern=
al (on the card) 5V step-down  switching regulator (2596) is also limit=
ed to 3A. So using a higher power  rating 12V PSU is pointless. The UAD=
manual says: „Each UAD card uses a  maximum of 14 watts of 5 vol=
t power from the PCI bus“ – in other words each  card draws=
2.8A at 5V from the PSU. So there is no chance for safe operation  of =
more than one card plugged in the chassis. I actually had problems with &nbs=
p;just one card at higher cpu loads (80%+) in form of  dropouts. 
 
BUT: 
After disabling the on-card 5V step-down switching  regulator and conn=
ecting a 400W ATX computer powersupply directly to the PCB  in the VV b=
ox a setup with 3 UAD cards (each with 95% CPU load) worked  flawlessly=
!   
 
The modification is quite easy and safe to do for  people with some ex=
perience in electronics and PCB soldering  skills. 
 
For those who are interested I will post a step by step guide  with so=
me pics for this modification during next  week. 
 
-Markus 
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--B_3295528053_1789915--But with UP as OFF it might be too easy to accidentally push it in and
turn the circuit on when the guitar is in the case or gig bag. So now
I'm leaning toward a separate power switch on my sustainer guitar...

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

Kerry Galloway wrote:
> Ah, thanks! Shows you what I know about electronics.
>
> Now - accidentally muting oneself on stage - *that* I can speak
> authoritatively on.
>
> - Kerry
>
>
> On 6/5/08 4:21 PM, in article 48487735@linux, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>> should be in how you wire it. There are 6 poles typically.
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Galloway" <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote in message
>> news:C46D7B42.B103%kg@kerrygalloway.com...
>>> I sure would like to see a broader range of pots available; the push-pull
>>> thing is great but I'd really want the electronics to turn off when you
>>> pull
>>> it up rather than push it down, for the simple reason that I've never seen
>>> a
>>> pot get accidentally pulled up in the middle of a gig.
>>>
>>> - Kerry
>>>
>>> On 6/5/08 12:20 AM, in article 48479623@linux, "Jamie K"
>>> <JamieN0-SPAM@JamieKrutzN0-SPAM.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brilliant!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>> StewMac will probably have what you need. Figure out the ohm rating
>>>>> (usually
>>>>> printed on the back of the pot) and taper (usually audio taper) of
>>>>> whatever
>>>>> pot you want to replace. Order the same ratings (or if you like smoother
>>>>> audio moves, try a linear taper pot) in a push/pull. Install. Smile.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill L" <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:48472764$1@linux...
>>>>>> That's an interesting idea. I like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>> yup. Also, you could replace one of the pots with a push/pull pot, and
>>>>>>> switch it on the guitar w/o having to drill or cut anything.
>>>>>>> AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:48470995$1@linux...
>>>>>>>> The guitar makes use of the "ring" terminal shorting to the sleeve of
>>>>>>>> the 1/4" jack to connect the "-" side of the battery when you put a
>>>>>>>> TS
>>>>>>>> plug in. If you use a TRS (balanced) 1/4" plug in the guitar you
>>>>>>>> could,
>>>>>>>> in theory, connect the ring and sleeve at some point farther down the
>>>>>>>> cable to energize the circuit in the guitar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bill L wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have a couple guitars with active electronics (a strat w/ EMGs and
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> Buscarino Starlight nylon electric). I hate having to unplug them
>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>> time I put them down, especially the Buscarino because I don't
>>>>>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>> use a vol pedal with it. Are there any tricks to cut the battery
>>>>>>>>> draw
>>>>>>>>> while leaving the plug in? I would think that if no circuit is
>>>>>>>>> completed it might stop the draw.
>>
>Hi Warren,

Try disabling bus mastering in the G450 driver.

Let me know how it goes.

Mike

"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my Paris
>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start up.
>I get
>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>At address: 003897c1"
>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not sharing
>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and a
>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run .. it
would
>be greatly appreciated.
>
>Cheers,
>WarrenHi Dimitrios,

If I had the source code for the effects, I could port them. The tough part
is getting the source code.

All the best,

Mike

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ensoniq-Sampler-Waveboy-5-Effektdiskette n-Disk-Disks_W0QQitemZ320259981761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ46947QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
>Let us know.
>regards,
>DimitriosHi Warren.
Still usind a pair of old dual output NVS280 Quadro's.
They are only 64mb, but are perfectly adequate for anything
but modern gaming.
Others here are using newer cards with no problem, but I
don't recall the model numbers.
Kim

"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks a bunch for that. which Invidia card did/do you use?
>re: the scsi, I guess I'm just old fashioned and the scsi card and drives
>didn't cost me anything and having 10, 15k drives makes me feel hi-tech!
>5 year old drives running on a 8 year ols system ..real hi-tech!!!
>
>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>
>>..Also, the G450 should work, but a Nvidia card would be
>>better.
>>(I was running two G450's on the P4p800s, but these cards had
>>issues when shifting windows across the four screens.
>>Playback would stop).
>>Can't understand why you would want to use SCSI, though.
>>Do yourself a favour... pull the drives and card, and buy yourself a
>>7200rpm IDE drive. Any cheap-ass 7200rpm drive
>>for around 50 bucks would give you enough throughput for 64 tracks.
>>
>>"Kim W." <no@way.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>FWIW, I have had Paris running flawlwssly on a p4p800s, and prior to that,
>>>a p4pe.
>>>Both are intel chipsets.
>>>I reckon a clean XP install, with hyperthreading turned off,
>>>*should* do the trick.
>>>(Provided you use the correct driver and install procedure.
>>>
>>>http://homepage.mac.com/osxlover/ParisFAQs/parisonxp.html
>>>
>>>Good Luck.
>>>
>>>Kim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Warren" <tonetemple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I've just picked up a cheap P4 motherboard and processor to upgrade my
>>Paris
>>>>rig yet no matter what I try I haven't been able to get Paris to start
>>up.
>>>>I get
>>>>"Unhandled eception: c00000005
>>>>At address: 003897c1"
>>>>The board is an Asus P4P800-E with a P4 3.0ghz. The EDS cards are not
>sharing
>>>>IRQ's with any devices. I have a SCSI card running the hard drives and
>>a
>>>>G450 video card. Anyone have any clues how to get this POS to run ..
it
>>>would
>>>>be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Warren
>>>
>>
>I have all the code for the ASR-X and FIZMO effects...., I just don't know
where it is :-) There was supposed to be a pretty smokin vocorder on the
ASR-X....

Chuck

"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>
>Hi Dimitrios,
>
>If I had the source code for the effects, I could port them. The tough
part
>is getting the source code.
>
>All the best,
>
>Mike
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ensoniq-Sampler-Waveboy-5-Effektdiskette n-Disk-Disks_W0QQitemZ320259981761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ46947QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
>>Let us know.
>>regards,
>>Dimitrios
>Hey guys,

We're putting some of the final tracking touches on the new Monkie CD so
we're down to the very end of the punch list. One of the songs we have is
called 'Hobo Rocket' and it might just be the signature tune of the CD. It's
about a bunch of hobos who build a rocket,

Shining hobo rocket
Dance across the sky
Heading for Uranus
Heard it's made of pecan pie

and we wanted to get a 'rocket taking off' sound without using a sample.
So, about half an hour of scraping my Les Paul on the side of my Savage amp
and a super resonant low pass filter and we're done with it.

Now THAT is what I find fun about recording.

TCBHi Kerry,

I'm not sure about where the info about bill re evolimit and guis and mike
arnao came from, but it's not really accurate. Neither is the stuff about
the waveboy plugins. It's not that big a deal, but Bill might get peeved
at me as there were a whole raft of plugins that I was supposed to finish,
start selling commercially and give him a cut.

Kerry Galloway <kg@kerrygalloway.com> wrote:
>Hi Dimitrios.
>
>These were the brainchild of Bill Mauchly, who I understand was also
>involved in PARIS (I believe he wrote the PARIS mixer code). I have Bill's
>current email address; inviting him to come over to the Wiki to add
>to/correct his entry and maybe doing an interview with him on the b

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John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

.
>> So, about half an hour of scraping my Les Paul on the side of my Savage

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Sat, 22 March 2008 15:52

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

amp
>> and a super resonant low pass filter and we're done with it.
>>
>> Now THAT is what I find fun about recording.
>>
>> TCBSample it and put it on a drum trigger...

Like the baseball bat sound on the "Centerfield" song from
John Fogerty.

DC

"tcb" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>not without the filter, and i don't think it's worth it to bother carrying
>one for a single song.
>
>Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>Can you do it live?
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> We're putting some of the final tracking touches on the new Monkie CD
>so
>>> we're down to the very end of the punch list. One of the songs we have
>is
>>> called 'Hobo Rocket' and it might just be the signature tune of the CD.
>It's
>>> about a bunch of hobos who build a rocket,
>>>
>>> Shining hobo rocket
>>> Dance across the sky
>>> Heading for Uranus
>>> Heard it's made of pecan pie
>>>
>>> and we wanted to get a 'rocket taking off' sound without using a sample.
>>> So, about half an hour of scraping my Les Paul on the side of my Savage
>amp
>>> and a super resonant low pass filter and we're done with it.
>>>
>>> Now THAT is what I find fun about recording.
>>>
>>> TCB
>Then they have to carry a sampler AND a drum trigger! ;-)

David.

DC wrote:
> Sample it and put it on a drum trigger...
>
> Like the baseball bat sound on the "Centerfield" song from
> John Fogerty.
>
> DC
>
>
> "tcb" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>> not without the filter, and i don't think it's worth it to bother carrying
>> one for a single song.
>>
>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>> Can you do it live?
>>>
>>> TCB wrote:
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> We're putting some of the final tracking touches on the new Monkie CD
>> so
>>>> we're down to the very end of the punch list. One of the songs we have
>> is
>>>> called 'Hobo Rocket' and it might just be the signature tune of the CD.
>> It's
>>>> about a bunch of hobos who build a rocket,
>>>>
>>>> Shining hobo rocket
>>>> Dance across the sky
>>>> Heading for Uranus
>>>> Heard it's made of pecan pie
>>>>
>>>> and we wanted to get a 'rocket taking off' sound without using a sample.
>>>> So, about half an hour of scraping my Les Paul on the side of my Savage
>> amp
>>>> and a super resonant low pass filter and we're done with it.
>>>>
>>>> Now THAT is what I find fun about recording.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>Or a baseball bat.

Which in some bars is an asset.

- eom

On 6/6/08 3:39 PM, in article 4849bf14$1@linux, "EK Sound"
<ask_me@nospam.net> wrote:

> Then they have to carry a sampler AND a drum trigger! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DC wrote:
>> Sample it and put it on a drum trigger...
>>
>> Like the baseball bat sound on the "Centerfield" song from
>> John Fogerty.
>>
>> DCOr a talk box (remember those?). The human tongue, jaw and lips make a
nice low pass filter for guitar.

Or just get right up on the mic and go "whooooeeeaaaaah" while screaming....

Anyway, sounds like a very cool day in the studio, Thad!

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

EK Sound wrote:
> Then they have to carry a sampler AND a drum trigger! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DC wrote:
>> Sample it and put it on a drum trigger...
>>
>> Like the baseball bat sound on the "Centerfield" song from
>> John Fogerty.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "tcb" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>> not without the filter, and i don't think it's worth it to bother
>>> carrying
>>> one for a single song.
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>> Can you do it live?
>>>>
>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> We're putting some of the final tracking touches on the new Monkie CD
>>> so
>>>>> we're down to the very end of the punch list. One of the songs we have
>>> is
>>>>> called 'Hobo Rocket' and it might just be the signature tune of the
>>>>> CD.
>>> It's
>>>>> about a bunch of hobos who build a rocket,
>>>>> Shining hobo rocket
>>>>> Dance across the sky
>>>>> Heading for Uranus
>>>>> Heard it's made of pecan pie
>>>>>
>>>>> and we wanted to get a 'rocket taking off' sound without using a
>>>>> sample.
>>>>> So, about half an hour of scraping my Les Paul on the side of my
>>>>> Savage
>>> amp
>>>>> and a super resonant low pass filter and we're done with it.
>>>>> Now THAT is what I find fun about recording.
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>There, that should be a sufficiently ominous subject line to
get your attention...

If you're running WinVista on anything, under NO circumstances
should you install (or allow it to be installed, via automatic
update) Vista Service Pack 1, just released this morning.

I'm typing this from my laptop, which now works properly, as it
did before installing Vista SP1... had to run System Restore to
get it there, since hardly anything worked after SP1 installed,
but you get the drift.

Peace-out, happy recording.

NeilSame goes for XP SP3...

David.

Neil wrote:
> There, that should be a sufficiently ominous subject line to
> get your attention...
>
> If you're running WinVista on anything, under NO circumstances
> should you install (or allow it to be installed, via automatic
> update) Vista Service Pack 1, just released this morning.
>
> I'm typing this from my laptop, which now works properly, as it
> did before installing Vista SP1... had to run System Restore to
> get it there, since hardly anything worked after SP1 installed,
> but you get the drift.
>
> Peace-out, happy recording.
>
> NeilHmmm... No problems here as far with Vista SP1. Havn't tested it so much
since I for the most using WinXP, where I also have installed SP3 on 5
partitions on 2 machines here, after tested it on one partition. The only
problem I can see is with Wavelab Essentials/Adobe Audition, last versions,
where I cannot burn audio CD's. Going to another partion and using Nero,
there's no problems burning the same songs.

Erling

"Neil" <OIU*TY&^%R^%TTF@{UIOYUH.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4849d76c$1@linux...
>
> There, that should be a sufficiently ominous subject line to
> get your attention...
>
> If you're running WinVista on anything, under NO circumstances
> should you install (or allow it to be installed, via automatic
> update) Vista Service Pack 1, just released this morning.
>
> I'm typing this from my laptop, which now works properly, as it
> did before installing Vista SP1... had to run System Restore to
> get it there, since hardly anything worked after SP1 installed,
> but you get the drift.
>
> Peace-out, happy recording.
>
> NeilI haven't completely/methodically tested out my Quad Core 6600, but I did
System Restore then installed XP SP3, All seems to be fine here on it. I
haven't noted any jump in CPU usage or anything funny that's obvious.

I have fired up several audio and video apps, done print jobs.. nothing
broken as of yet and it actually fixed a strange power saving issue I had
where the second monitor wouldn't wake up w/o a reboot. So far, so good.
Unfortunately, it didn't fix the sync lock problem on monitor 2, and I'm
probably going to have to replace the crappy onboard video with a real PCIe
card video out.
It is 'not' my Paris machine however. There is absolutely nothing about XP
SP2 or SP3 that Paris needs. I don't 'net on Paris. Anyone using their
Paris machine to surf is asking for it and no amount of SPx is gonna save
from the inevitable bad luck.

This is by no means a resounding Microsoft is Great! Microsoft is Perfect!
Install it! It just so happens that it's worked out here on this particular
box well for me. I wouldn't, historically viewing, say that installing it to
an older machine would be a good idea. MS has had a history of that kind of
thing working, but never quite right IME.

AA

"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:4849f154@linux...
> Same goes for XP SP3...
>
> David.
>
> Neil wrote:
>> There, that should be a sufficiently ominous subject line to
>> get your attention...
>>
>> If you're running WinVista on anything, under NO circumstances should you
>> install (or allow it to be installed, via automatic update) Vista Service
>> Pack 1, just released this morning. I'm typing this from my laptop, which
>> now works properly, as it did before installing Vista SP1... had to run
>> System Restore to
>> get it there, since hardly anything worked after SP1 installed, but you
>> get the drift.
>>
>> Peace-out, happy recording.
>>
>> Neilor play at all the shuttle launches left.

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:39:52 -0600, EK Sound <ask_me@nospam.net>
wrote:

>Then they have to carry a sampler AND a drum trigger! ;-)
>
>David.
>
>DC wrote:
>> Sample it and put it on a drum trigger...
>>
>> Like the baseball bat sound on the "Centerfield" song from
>> John Fogerty.
>>
>> DC
>>
>>
>> "tcb" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>> not without the filter, and i don't think it's worth it to bother carrying
>>> one for a single song.
>>>
>>> Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>>>> Can you do it live?
>>>>
>>>> TCB wrote:
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> We're putting some of the final tracking touches on the new Monkie CD
>>> so
>>>>> we're down to the very end of the punch list. One of the songs we have
>>> is
>>>>> called 'Hobo Rocket' and it might just be the signature tune of the CD.
>>> It's
>>>>> about a bunch of hobos who build a rocket,
>>>>>
>>>>> Shining hobo rocket
>>>>> Dance across the sky
>>>>> Heading for Uranus
>>>>> Heard it's made of pecan pie
>>>>>
>>>>> and we wanted to get a 'rocket taking off' sound without using a sample.
>>>>> So, about half an hour of scraping my Les Paul on the side of my Savage
>>> amp
>>>>> and a super resonant low pass filter and we're done with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now THAT is what I find fun about recording.
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>Greetings !

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Please find them and if possible handle them to Mike !!!
That would serve us enormously !!
Thanks for clarifying !
Regards,
Dimitrios

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>I have all the code for the ASR-X and FIZMO effects...., I just don't know
>where it is :-) There was supposed to be a pretty smokin vocorder on the
>ASR-X....
>
>Chuck
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Dimitrios,
>>
>>If I had the source code for the effects, I could port them. The tough
>part
>>is getting the source code.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ensoniq-Sampler-Waveboy-5-Effektdiskette n-Disk-Disks_W0QQitemZ320259981761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ46947QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>>These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
>>>Let us know.
>>>regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>Hi there,
I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for troubleshooting
an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card into
my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay and I can't
seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am missing here.
I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing these things
into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Davidjeeez dont loose that stuff, its so valuable! :-)

the asr-x/fizmo effects are the same basically. the vocoder
is pretty lame, but the rest is top notch almost from start
to finish.

"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>I have all the code for the ASR-X and FIZMO effects...., I just don't know
>where it is :-) There was supposed to be a pretty smokin vocorder on the
>ASR-X....
>
>Chuck
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@..> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Dimitrios,
>>
>>If I had the source code for the effects, I could port them. The tough
>part
>>is getting the source code.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@xxx.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Ensoniq-Sampler-Waveboy-5-Effektdiskette n-Disk-Disks_W0QQitemZ320259981761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ46947QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>>These were for the ASR-10 sampler which used the same dsp as paris.
>>>Let us know.
>>>regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>Hey folks,

Wanted to say that RTF Friday night in Portland was the most amazing show
I've seen. I loved their music way back when but to see it performed with
the maturity Chick, Lenny, Al, and Stanley now possess, it was absolutely
phenomenal. One of the very best sounding shows as well. Great job by the
sound guys.

I highly recommend this experience. GO!

Mark

"Mark McDermott" <mark.nospam@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>I feel like a kid going to my first concert! Cannot wait to see tonight's
>show.
>
>I'll post with some comments in the next couple of days.
>
>Have a great weekend!
>
>MarkDavid,

What version of Paris and what OS? How many EDS cards? If more than
one, what is connected to each?

Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.

Jeff

David Feldman wrote:
> Hi there,
> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for troubleshooting
> an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card into
> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay and I can't
> seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am missing here.
> I've looked in the manual and can't find any notes on installing these things
> into an existing MEC. So I'm a little bit lost. Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> DaviThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Hey Mark,
I'd love to see that show too! They must have been great.
Were they electric all night or did they do some acoustic too?
Tom

"Mark McDermott" <mark.nospam@stateofwail.com> wrote in message =
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Hey folks,

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the
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I highly recommend this experience. GO!

Mark

"Mark McDermott" <mark.nospam@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>
>I feel like a kid going to my first concert! Cannot wait to see =
tonight's
>show.
>
>I'll post with some comments in the next couple of days.
>
>Have a great weekend!
>
>Mark

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David,
In theory they should just show up in the modules section in
the patchbay. Does the Mec master module show up that these
new 8 in/outs are installed in?

More info will help.
Tom

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Just need more info to help with troubleshooting.

Jeff

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> I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction for =
troubleshooting
> an installation problem. I've recently put a new 8-in an 8-out card =
into
> my MEC, and when I run Paris, they don't show up on the patch bay =
and I can't
> seem to use them. I'm wondering if there are steps that I am =
missing here.
> I've looked in the manual and can't find any no

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Sun, 23 March 2008 08:07

chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

>> you install (or allow it to be installed, via automatic update) Vista
>>> Service Pack 1, just released this morning. I'm typing this from my
>>> laptop, which now works properly, as it did before installing Vista
>>> SP1... had to run System Restore to
>>> get it there, since hardly anything worked after SP1 installed, but you
>>> get the drift.
>>>
>>> Peace-out, happy recording.
>>>
>>> Neil
>
>....back around Christmas time they were selling at Office Depot for $300.00.
Then the price went up to $400.00. Looks like they're blowing them out again.

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