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| Re: new motherboard recommendations? [message #70659 is a reply to message #70648] |
Fri, 28 July 2006 20:36   |
Tom Bruhl
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ants an edit job / drummers with
> studios
> >looking to record could try propositioning me!).
> >I've got drums recorded across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
> >"quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it
right;
> >or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
> >to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this
would
> >be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris.
Problem
> >with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
> >even stereo, files, but not 12 at once.
> >
> >Hot tips greatly appreciated.
> >Thanks,
> >Dan
>
>
> You are correct about Recycle, it will not work across 12 tracks. I
suggest
> you move the wave files to Pro Tools and do this with Beat Detective (not
> the LE version which only works on two tracks.) You should be able to find
> many Pro Tools users who will take this on.
> It is much easier if it was recorded to a grid. Saying you want to
quantize
> to section of the song he did well, will only work if the tempo is exactly
> the same throughout the track. This is unlikely if his playing was that
sloppy.
> Beat Detective will allow you to extract an averaged tempo map out of the
> performance and quantize to that, but it may still speed up and slow down.
> It can also extract a "groove" from a well-played section and quantize
using
> the groove on top of the generated tempo map.
> If its just a matter of a few late kick or snare hits, I would do it in
Paris,
> but be sure to cut and move all 12 tracks simultaneously. If you need do
> advanced surgery, Beat Detective is the best tool for the job.
> gene
>
>HI ,
REcycle is pretty much a dead app at this point.
All the major audio apps now Cubase/Nuendo, Sonar, Ableton, Pro Tools,
Samplitude all offer audio quantizing on one of more tracks at a time.
Chris
dan b wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Somewhat unfortunately, I've got some serious tidying up of drum tracks to
> do. It's driving me nuts! (Anyone who wants an edit job / drummers with studios
> looking to record could try propositioning me!).
> I've got drums recorded across 12 channels, but much of the playing needs
> "quantising", ideally around a groove (i.e. the grove when he gets it right;
> or just reprogramming it from scratch). I'm a bit clueless when it comes
> to the possibilities offered in cubase / recycle, but presumable this would
> be the way forward, rather than trying to do it all by hand in Paris. Problem
> with recycle, as far as I understand it, it that it works on mono, maybe
> even stereo, files, but not 12 at once.
>
> Hot tips greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Dan
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| Re: new motherboard recommendations? [message #70677 is a reply to message #70671] |
Sat, 29 July 2006 17:29 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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ry nice) let me know.
>
> We're dealers.
>
> DC
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >I'm waiting on a power amp to show up form my NS10M's. I tried a number
> of
> >amps that I had access to in this area and the one I like best wasn't one
> of
> >the Yamaha amps. It was, surprisingly (I guess) an Alesis Matica
> >900......very open, clean and detailed sounding with 270WPC.......so
anyway,
> >I found one and that's what's going to show up here next week to power
these
> >things. Maybe I'll change my mind, but that one seemed the best sounding
> of
> >the bunch to my ears. In the meantime I want to use them so I hooked them
> up
> >to a consumer grade Sony amp that is very clean and rated 230W /
impedance
> >use 6-16 ohms. That's pretty broad and the NS10M's are 8ohm IIRC, so I
> >oughta' be goo if I don't try to drive these puppies too
> >hard..........right?
> >
> >Deej
> >
> >
>Is the Scherzo driver being loaded?
XP or Win98?
How did you install Paris software?
"dbraje" <darko.braje@zg.t-com.hr> wrote:
>I make a new comp with Asus A7n8x motherboard and barton procesor . Why
>paris can be recognized .
>
>Help
>
>D.
>
>Hey Gantt,
I think you're right. The ability to use plugs that won't run in Paris, and
the automation features other DAWs offer are real compelling reasons to look
for alternatives. And, as Dave seems to be pointing out, my ears and sonic
expectations are not what I have to sell to. In fact I'm also working on
another DAW (on a G4 in fact!) and trying to integrate this with Paris.
Good luck in your efforts :-)
MR
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4502c1db$1@linux...
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> I think it's more the expectation of things like Vocalign and Amp Farm and
> Pitch'n'Time and Groove Detective (or whatever it's called) that make
people
> want PT. Also, many musicians around here (Washington, DC metro area)
seem
> to be PT savvy enough to sit at the computer and do some of the work.
Most
> of my clients just want to play music and leave the computing to me, but
> I'm beginning to feel the pinch of not being able to automate plugins, or
> to use many of the new FX that are coming out.
>
> I'm dying to use the Waves IR-L reverbs and the UAD-1 Neve EQ, both of
whi
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| Re: new motherboard recommendations? [message #70678 is a reply to message #70677] |
Sat, 29 July 2006 19:11 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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ch
> I own, but neither of which work in Paris on my OS 9 Mac. I just bought
> a MOTU 828 in hopes that I can accomplish a DJ-ish outboard FX computer w/
> my old G4. We shall see!
>
> Gantt
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Hey, life goes on, you gotta do what you gotta do. Business is business
> and
> >all that jazz. Save the special Paris sauce for the truth seekers that
> get
> >it, eh?
> >
> >But I was wondering, do you think someone could make a new Paris skin
that
> >would look PTish enough to comfort unwary unbelievers?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >MR
> >
> >
> >
> >"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:44ff2c15$1@linux...
> >> After years of turning away work and trying to convince clients that
> >> we can still do great work without certain tools, we have finally
caved.
> >>
> >> We just ordered HD3... and a.... (shudder)... MACpro.
> >>
> >> I feel so dirty......
> >>
> >> David.
> >
> >
>If either one of you guys needs a hand with getting this going, I'll be glad
to help. My # is 970-375-7081,
Deej
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:450344fa@linux...
> Hey Gantt,
> I think you're right. The ability to use plugs that won't run in Paris,
and
> the automation features other DAWs offer are real compelling reasons to
look
> for alternatives. And, as Dave seems to be pointing out, my ears and
sonic
> expectations are not what I have to sell to. In fact I'm also working on
> another DAW (on a G4 in fact!) and trying to integrate this with Paris.
> Good luck in your efforts :-)
> MR
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4502c1db$1@linux...
> >
> > I think it's more the expectation of things like Vocalign and Amp Farm
and
> > Pitch'n'Time and Groove Detective (or whatever it's called) that make
> people
> > want PT. Also, many musicians around here (Washington, DC metro area)
> seem
> > to be PT savvy enough to sit at the computer and do some of the work.
> Most
> > of my clients just want to play music and leave the computing to me,
but
> > I'm beginning to feel the pinch of not being able to automate plugins,
or
> > to use many of the new FX that are coming out.
> >
> > I'm dying to use the Waves IR-L reverbs and the UAD-1 Neve EQ, both of
> which
> > I own, but neither of which work in Paris on my OS 9 Mac. I just bought
> > a MOTU 828 in hopes that I can accomplish a DJ-ish outboard FX computer
w/
> > my old G4. We shall see!
> >
> > Gantt
> >
> > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >Hey, life goes on, you gotta do what you gotta do. Business is
business
> > and
> > >all that jazz. Save the special Paris sauce for
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| Re: new motherboard recommendations? [message #70680 is a reply to message #70678] |
Sat, 29 July 2006 20:51 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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> > >> I feel so dirty......
> > >>
> > >> David.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>It wasn't a lot and it didn't stick, but it happened. Sept 9th is as early
as I've ever seen it happen here. I've seen it happen in the middle of
October and that is considered pretty rare.
It's cold outside tonight. I've been trying to find a couple of cords of oak
firewood today. It's going to be a long winter, it seems.
DeejThese things seem to have some qualities relating to stereo imaging that are
very obvious. I don't think I've ever used a pair of monitors where the
stereo image would seem to shift so drastically when moving even a little
bit outside the sweet spot. At the same time, when monitoring in the sweet
spot, it's very obvious where t6he various instruments lie in the
soundstage.
Combining these with a subwoofer is absolutely necessary in my room as they
are 5' from the back wall of the CR and there is no standing wave action
happening in the CR to reinforce any of the LF at all.
I'm enjoying learning these monitors. It's becoming more and more obvious to
me why these have been a staple in studios for a long
time.............plus........like 90% of everything else here, including
me......they're obsolete!!!!!!That's about my take on 'em too man. In some ways, I kinda miss having that
overachiever stereo thang they did so well.
AA
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:45038304@linux...
> These things seem to have some qualities relating to stereo imaging that
> are
> very obvious. I don't think I've ever used a pair of monitors where the
> stereo image would seem to shift so drastically when moving even a little
> bit outside the sweet spot. At the same time, when monitoring in the sweet
> spot, it's very obvious where t6he various instruments lie in the
> soundstage.
>
> Combining these with a subwoofer is absolutely necessary in my room as
> they
> are 5' from the back wall of the CR and there is no standing wave action
> happening in the CR to reinforce any of the LF at all.
>
> I'm enjoying learning these monitors. It's becoming more and more obvious
> to
> me why these have been a staple in studios for a long
> time.............plus........like 90% of everything else here, including
> me......they're obsolete!!!!!!
>
>
>AhHA!!!........so my ears aren't playing tricks on me eh? At my age, I don't
trust nuthin' no mo. I've been listening to a lot of program material on
these today that is similar to what's happening here (Dixie Chicks, Alison
Krause and a little Norah Jones and it's pretty amazing how the stereo image
of these monitors seems wider in a nearfield (4' equilat) config than my
NHT's do in midfield (7.5' equilat) config. The NHT's have a lot broader
overall frequency response but don't have as much of that stereo mojo going
on. I thought the NS10's might be out of phase there right at first, but it
was just my moving out of the sweet spot a little bit.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:45038db5@linux...
> That's about my take on 'em too man. In some ways, I kinda miss having
that
> overachiever stereo thang they did so well.
>
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:45038304@linux...
> > These things seem to have some qualities relating to stereo imaging that
> > are
> > very obvious. I don't think I've ever used a pair of monitors where the
> > stereo image would seem to shift so drastically when moving even a
little
> > bit outside the sweet spot. At the same time, when monitoring in the
sweet
> > spot, it's very obvious where t6he various instruments lie in the
> > soundstage.
> >
> > Combining these with a subwoofer is absolutely necessary in my room as
> > they
> > are 5' from the back wall of the CR and there is no standing wave action
> > happening in the CR to reinforce any of the LF at all.
> >
> > I'm enjoying learning these monitors. It's becoming more and more
obvious
> > to
> > me why these have been a staple in studios for a long
> > time.............plus........like 90% of everything else here, including
> > me......they're obsolete!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
>
>Hey,
All you guys who like Grado headphones. Which model do you like?
Is there much bleed into the mic if used by a vocalist?
thanks!
DCI miss frying them all the time. :) I crank my mixes up super-loud, so I
*don't* miss the fatigue and headac
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| Re: new motherboard recommendations? [message #70683 is a reply to message #70648] |
Sun, 30 July 2006 09:11 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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> and
> > > Pitch'n'Time and Groove Detective (or whatever it's called) that make
> > people
> > > want PT. Also, many musicians around here (Washington, DC metro area)
> > seem
> > > to be PT savvy enough to sit at the computer and do some of the work.
> > Most
> > > of my clients just want to play music and leave the computing to me,
> but
> > > I'm beginning to feel the pinch of not being able to automate plugins,
> or
> > > to use many of the new FX that are coming out.
> > >
> > > I'm dying to use the Waves IR-L reverbs and the UAD-1 Neve EQ, both of
> > which
> > > I own, but neither of which work in Paris on my OS 9 Mac. I just
bought
> > > a MOTU 828 in hopes that I can accomplish a DJ-ish outboard FX
computer
> w/
> > > my old G4. We shall see!
> > >
> > > Gantt
> > >
> > > "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >Hey, life goes on, you gotta do what you gotta do. Business is
> business
> > > and
> > > >all that jazz. Save the special Paris sauce for the truth seekers
that
> > > get
> > > >it, eh?
> > > >
> > > >But I was wondering, do you think someone could make a new Paris skin
> > that
> > > >would look PTish enough to comfort unwary unbelievers?
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >MR
> > > >
>
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