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| Re: Replacement MEC fans (size, low noise) [message #65293 is a reply to message #65289] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 01:50   |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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>> >Just because Paris stopped doesn't mean we did. I think it's fun to put
>> this
>> >stuff together and see what it can achieve.
>> >
>> >;o)
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>> >"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >news:443c54af$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, I still use Paris as main DAW, although I augment with cubase
sx.
>> I
>> >> think of the spirit of this newsgroup to have evolved as those who
are
>> >searching
>> >> for the best way to do their thang with music, and share it.... guys
>and
>> >> gals that aren't swayed by popular opinion, unless it happens to be
the
>> >same
>> >> thing that works for them sonically, or logistically, or ergonomically,
>> or
>> >> whatever, and are willing to share, or learn. I say, bring it on. If
PT
>> is
>> >> working for you, and you can tell me how...I'll listen. Maybe it will
>> make
>> >> me better.
>> >> Rod
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| Re: Replacement MEC fans (size, low noise) [message #65310 is a reply to message #65304] |
Fri, 10 March 2006 11:54 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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, no one minds that you left Paris. really. It still works for
>me, and I will use it as long as I can, then I will probably get into
>Sequoia.
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>DC
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>>Ummm by Paul's philosophy I guess I shouldn't post here anymore sense I don't
own ...:(
Um Chris, I believe my post was defending just the opposite. Go back and
read it again. I've been part this group since 1998 and have never discouraged
anyone from posting.
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI,
>Yes well put.
>
>Ummm by Paul's philosophy I guess I shouldn't post here anymore sense I
>don't own ...:(
>
>Chris
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>TC wrote:
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>> Well,
>>
>> I use PT HD, Logic 7 and Paris, with considerable investments in all
>> over the years.
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>> The fact that Paris is no longer made means that people are eventually
>> either going to supplement their workflow with other systems, or move
on
>> once the hardware is no longer easy to come by.
>>
>> Dawfensiveness is just plain silly. That hasn't really been the spirit
>> of this NG (although it has been touchy in the past at times) and I
>> think we can all keep an open mind and help each other with good info
on
>> various platforms.
>>
>> If someone's moving to HD is going to somehow make another Paris user
>> feel "inadequate" about their system, then so be it. Paris can hold it's
>> own sonically, and other systems will continue to have more features
>> than Paris, but that's just the way it goes.
>>
>> This place has always been a step above other NG's since I've been
>> around here (1998), and it's aways been more about the community here
>> than current daw wars..
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> TC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Cox wrote:
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>>> Hey John, Point taken...Steve
>>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I ever get PT I'll be here telling everyone how good or lousy it
>>>> is and
>>>> it WILL help paris users decide to keep paris or move on. That's great
>>>
>>>
>>> help
>>>
>>>> !
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Steve has a good point, this is the Paris news group, not that
>>>>> other
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> people<
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| Re: Replacement MEC fans (size, low noise) [message #65478 is a reply to message #65323] |
Fri, 17 March 2006 05:47 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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d up recordings.
>>>>
>>>> I remember my very first recording session as a guitar player. The year
>>
>>>> 1982
>>>> as I remember recording my tracks to 2 ich Otari MTR, MCI mixer..Fine..
>>
>>>> The
>>>> sound was nice, clear just the way I recorded it. But, remember
>>>> thinking
>>>> "This does sound like a record" Hummmm... After all the other
>>>> instruments
>>>> were push up in the mix ,along with the vocals, stillnot a record
>>>> sound..
>>>>
>>>> In other works, where is the mudied drums? the thudy bass? the muddied
>>
>>>> vocals
>>>> that I heard since I was 4 years old??? where was this sound??
>>>>
>>>> Well, we hen attended the mix session, I soon found out that, the magic
>>
>>>> was
>>>> about to occur!! Out comes the Putec(s),the 1176s,LA2(s) GAtes,
>>>> DBX160..2
>>>> hours later they had that record sound..Hummm...I started thinkng
>>>> again,
>>>> "Man, the sound of 30ips Ampex 456 tape was big, vivid, wide, open,
>>>> witha
>>>> ting og high end fidelity..hummmm This was not the record sound..
>>>>
>>>> So here we are in 1997-98-99.PAris. The pro Engineers on this site
>>>> priased
>>>> it for it's "easy ability" to get that record sound!! wow!!! AND, we
>>
>>>> lawed
>>>> every oter digital recorder mixer for being to ....Digital...Not warm
>>
>>>> enough,
>>>> not dull , or muddy enough..
>>>> This Pro Engineer-Producer crowd wined,screemed, bitched, moaned on
>>>> every
>>>> forum that the current state of DAW's (namely Protools) mix was bad as
>>
>>>> well
>>>> as most plugins...Even more, they could not mix ITB(In the Box) unless
>>
>>>> they
>>>> has software emulations of their beloved (OLD) compressors EQ,
>>>> Verbs.(UAD,MCDSP,
>>>> Bomb factory)....
>>>>
>>>> So, like magic, companies pour massive resouces to reclaim the glorys
>> days
>>>> with the birth of the "Vinatage Plug ins). Their purpose was( is) to
>>>> make
>>>> your mixes"duller"=warmer, more professional(sit right, al in all..Make
>>
>>>> the
>>>> mixes sound like 1975!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now in 2006 the "what I call" modern sound of DAWS, being lead by Pro
>>
>>>> Tools
>>>> HD and Nuedno, Sonar there's a shift occuring in the "Holy-Grail "
>>>> RECORD-SOUND...
>>>> With Garage bands, rap artist, Rock bands, Soul singers of today having
>> NO
>>>> prior knowledge,nor the Formal training to 'get he 1975" sound, we have
>>
>>>> the
>>>> High-Fedelity DAW sound in all it'sglory!! ..Yipee!!
>>>>
>>>> Still, the old guard continues to hold it's thumb on the DAW market and
>>
>>>> keep
>>>> driving manufactures to making more and more vintage plugins. But,
>>>> every
>>>> now and then a product like Ozone's Izatope comes along (and others)
>>>> that
>>>> challeng the old "muddy up the mix crowd).
>>>>
>>>> Today kids are brought onthe Pro_Tools(Mix & HD) sound. They expect to
>>
>>>> hear
>>>> that sound. they have no idea on how to get a 1975 sound..
>>>>
>>>> So, I've said all the above to say: Let's move on!!Yes , the Brian
>>>> Tankersly(I
>>>> adore), Nuendo endorsers,vinatge engineers) will continue to push to
>>>> have
>>>> all of their 1960,79, & 80 hardware as a plugin and continue to fight
>> DAW
>>>> companies to to fix summing buses or event new a new summing buss
>>>> market
>>>> segment to ensure they et the 1975 sound with todays DAW.
>>>>
>>>> For me,they can have the 1975 sound. I'm moving onward with the cureent
>>
>>>> state
>>>> of very high fifdelity thats afforded me in PT HD And Nuendo..yes,
>>>> Paris
>>>> is still in my rig, but I will no longer
>>>> fight mixes to get the 1975 sound..If the mixes are nice and
>>>> Brightosund
>>>> with bottom..So beit..I love the way PT HD sounds with the 192
>>>>
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