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2 mecs, 3 eds1000 I need a little help [message #63353] Wed, 18 January 2006 20:13 Go to next message
Kip Sonnier is currently offline  Kip Sonnier   
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ous that
> there may be some other problem that still hasn't been solved. Maybe it's
> just a matter of waiting a week or two for a couple more people in the street
> to make complaints so they go and find the actual fault.
>
> In any case the server has been running fine since I started this thread.
> Let's not panic quite yet...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DC" <dc@spamyermama.org> wrote:
>
>>Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
>>range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
>>fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
>>the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
>>a unit.
>>
>>One of
Re: 2 mecs, 3 eds1000 I need a little help [message #63354 is a reply to message #63353] Wed, 18 January 2006 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
>>one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
>>We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
>>One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
>>DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
>>up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
>>and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
>>
>>Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
>>company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
>>to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
>>provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
>>It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
>>never know, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
>>
>>best,
>>
>>DC
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually do
>>>something about brown outs.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>> Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)

http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Subject/Special_Featur es/Storm-Ready_H
ome/BackupGenerators.html

We don't want you to move. Just get yourself one of these and turn it on
when you leave the house or go to bed. That should suit us just fine.
;o)


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message ne
Re: 2 mecs, 3 eds1000 I need a little help - Few words on WORDCLOCK... [message #63358 is a reply to message #63353] Wed, 18 January 2006 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kout condition is detected. Online units are more
>>
>>expensive
>>
>>>>though.
>>>>
>>>>Hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
>>
>>course
>>
>>>>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
>>
>>UPS
>>
>>>>>on it... ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I
>
> went
>
>>>>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
>
> it's
>
>>>>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
>>
>>meter
>>
>>>>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
>>
>>glitch
>>
>>>>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
>>
>>glitch...
>>
>>>>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
>>>
>>>seem
>>>
>>>>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough
>
> to
>
>>>>effect
>>>>
>>>>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>
>
>I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the native
intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot as
well.

"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:43fa69db$1@linux...
> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
>
> Jimmy
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
> >
> > A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a CD-Rom
> containing
> > wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other work. It
was
> > labled "Data CD".
> > I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the protools guy
> could
> > drag them in to his session.
> > Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just tried to
> listen
> > to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and it
wo
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Re: 2 mecs, 3 eds1000 I need a little help, found problem [message #63360 is a reply to message #63354] Wed, 18 January 2006 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ow, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
>>>
>>>best,
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually
do
>>>>something about brown outs.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>Now there you go again..........

;o)

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fcd7c0$1@linux...
>
> What about those who don't have the civic mindedness to implement a
> reliable, secure, private, voter-verifiable voting system? Without that
> it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the native
> > intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot as
> > well.
> >
> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:43fa69db$1@linux...
> >> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
> >>
> >> Jimmy
> >>
> >> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
> >>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a CD-Rom
> >> containing
> >>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other work. It
> > was
> >>> labled "Data CD".
> >>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the protools
guy
> >> could
Re: 2 mecs, 3 eds1000 I need a little help, found problem [message #63361 is a reply to message #63360] Wed, 18 January 2006 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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> >>> drag them in to his session.
> >>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just tried to
> >> listen
> >>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and it
> > won't
> >>> play".
> >>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
> >>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
> >>> "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your wife?"
> >>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
> >>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
> >>>
> >>> Rod
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >Nice quote Deej, that takes me back. I think if Ronnie were still
around, he would be in strong support of reliable, secure, private,
voter-verified voting systems in the U. S. of A.

As would any red blooded freedom loving American, like yourself. We're
not there at the moment and it's not a good thing for any voter and
taxpayer, be they Libertarian, Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent
or other.

The unfortunate thing is that non-secure, non-verifiable systems were
proposed and actually adopted in some places to replace the chad fiasco.
Out of the frying pan into the fire.

More here: http://www.blackboxvoting.org

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com



DJ wrote:
> Now there you go again..........
>
> ;o)
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fcd7c0$1@linux...
>> What about those who don't have the civic mindedness to implement a
>> reliable, secure, private, voter-verifiable voting system? Without that
>> it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the native
>>> intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:43fa69db$1@linux...
>>>> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
>>>>
>>>> Jimmy
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <

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Hey Aaron "one more thing" [message #63363 is a reply to message #63361] Thu, 19 January 2006 00:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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member all the ins and outs, so I appologize if I'm
>> repeating what's allready been said (maybe even by me).
>>
>> I used PARIS all day yesterday transferring tapes - at least 9 or 10
>> hours
>> straight and no plobelms at all. It can just work.
>>
>> To succeed, PARIS (in my expereince) needs:
>>
>> lots of power - true power 550 PS for me. 450 wasn't enough.
>>
>> lots of cooling - I cut a hole in the side of my cases and mount a fan to
>> blow air away from the PARIS cards. No more clicks or freezing here -
>> ever.
>> It's not that hard to do, either. I just use a drill to make multiple
>> "punches"
>> in a circle and cut out what's left with some snips. Then, I drill the
>> mounting
>> holes and mount the fan. Voila. I also leave an empty PCI space between
>> my cards to allow more air to get around them. They need it.
>>
>> No bad DX plugs. Try running with DX disabled - if it's stable, you know
>> that a bad DX plug is the problem.
>>
>> No hyperthreading/dual CPUS - this is a rule I'm breaking successfully.
>> Go figure.
>>
>> Non-defective cards - I'm suspicious that this is your problem. If
>> you've
>> tried the card(s) in another computer with a clean install and all the
>> afore
>> mentioned requirements (especially the cooling one) were met, you
>> probably
>> have a defective/dammaged card. At least they are cheap these days.
>>
>> I hope this helps, John. It's working for me.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Mike
>> "chuck" <chuck@chuck.com> wrote:
>>
>>>In my experience a PARIS.CFG file works well on exactly one system, the
>>
>> system
>>
>>>it works well on :-)
>>>
>>>If your system doesn't work well, it's better to post what's wrong than
>>
>> trying
>>
>>>to fix it with someone elses config.
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would be wise to post PC system specs, how many tracks are typically
>>>>used,
>>>
>>>>how many Native plugs ins (and do you have a UAD/powercore) and how many
>>>
>>>EDS
>>>>cards as well because these things directly affect it.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:43f9cd3f@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Post it here please.......
>>>>
>>>>
>>I'm with you there Jamie. It just seems like there is so much potential for
fraud, not only with voting machines and punch cards but also with the
additional problem of registration fraud and the inevitable muddying of the
waters by the various interest groups who are always bitching about state
laws which disallow those convicted of felons to vote. Rather than working
to have the laws changed, they seem to want to keep them in place so that
they can use them opportunistically at election time in order to paint the
*esta
Re: Hey Aaron "one more thing" [message #63364 is a reply to message #63363] Wed, 18 January 2006 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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blishment* as unfair and hard hearted. Then after the election is over,
the whole issue is forgotten. It's incredibly hippocritical.

What would you suggest as a bulletproof electoral system, keeping in mind
that since this is a representative republic with an electoral college, the
electors will have the final vote?

Deej


"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fce77a@linux...
>
> Nice quote Deej, that takes me back. I think if Ronnie were still
> around, he would be in strong support of reliable, secure, private,
> voter-verified voting systems in the U. S. of A.
>
> As would any red blooded freedom loving American, like yourself. We're
> not there at the moment and it's not a good thing for any voter and
> taxpayer, be they Libertarian, Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent
> or other.
>
> The unfortunate thing is that non-secure, non-verifiable systems were
> proposed and actually adopted in some places to replace the chad fiasco.
> Out of the frying pan into the fire.
>
> More here: http://www.blackboxvoting.org
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > Now there you go again..........
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
news:43fcd7c0$1@linux...
> >> What about those who don't have the civic mindedness to implement a
> >> reliable, secure, private, voter-verifiable voting system? Without that
> >> it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -Jamie
> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >>
> >>
> >> DJ wrote:
> >>> I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the native
> >>> intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot
as
> >>> well.
> >>>
> >>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:43fa69db$1@linux...
> >>>> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jimmy
> >>>>
> >>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
> >>>>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a
CD-Rom
> >>>> containing
> >>>>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other work.
It
> >>> was
> >>>>> labled "Data CD".
> >>>>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the protools
> > guy
> >>>> could
> >>>>> drag them in to his session.
> >>>>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just tried
to
> >>>> listen
> >>>>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and it
> >>> won't
> >>>>> play".
> >>>>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
> >>>>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
> >>>>> "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your wife?"
> >>>>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
> >>>>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
> >>>>>
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Re: Hey Aaron "one more thing" [message #63365 is a reply to message #63363] Thu, 19 January 2006 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> >>>>> Rod
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >Deej,

Are you saying that all those that are elected went to College?
Surely not

Cheers
Martin Harrington

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43fd22bf$1@linux...
> I'm with you there Jamie. It just seems like there is so much potential
> for
> fraud, not only with voting machines and punch cards but also with the
> additional problem of registration fraud and the inevitable muddying of
> the
> waters by the various interest groups who are always bitching about state
> laws which disallow those convicted of felons to vote. Rather than working
> to have the laws changed, they seem to want to keep them in place so that
> they can use them opportunistically at election time in order to paint the
> *establishment* as unfair and hard hearted. Then after the election is
> over,
> the whole issue is forgotten. It's incredibly hippocritical.
>
> What would you suggest as a bulletproof electoral system, keeping in mind
> that since this is a representative republic with an electoral college,
> the
> electors will have the final vote?
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fce77a@linux...
>>
>> Nice quote Deej, that takes me back. I think if Ronnie were still
>> around, he would be in strong support of reliable, secure, private,
>> voter-verified voting systems in the U. S. of A.
>>
>> As would any red blooded freedom loving American, like yourself. We're
>> not there at the moment and it's not a good thing for any voter and
>> taxpayer, be they Libertarian, Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent
>> or other.
>>
>> The unfortunate thing is that non-secure, non-verifiable systems were
>> proposed and actually adopted in some places to replace the chad fiasco.
>> Out of the frying pan into the fire.
>>
>> More here: http://www.blackboxvoting.org
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>> > Now there you go again..........
>> >
>> > ;o)
>> >
>> > "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
> news:43fcd7c0$1@linux...
>> >> What about those who don't have the civic mindedness to implement a
>> >> reliable, secure, private, voter-verifiable voting system? Without
>> >> that
>> >> it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> -Jamie
>> >> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> DJ wrote:
>> >>> I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the
>> >>> native
>> >>> intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot
> as
>> >>> well.
>> >>>
>> >>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:43fa69db$1@linux...
>> >>>> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jimmy
>> >>>>
>> >>
Thanks Aaron, You've been a big help!!!! [message #63366 is a reply to message #63364] Thu, 19 January 2006 00:34 Go to previous message
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>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
>> >>>>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a
> CD-Rom
>> >>>> containing
>> >>>>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other work.
> It
>> >>> was
>> >>>>> labled "Data CD".
>> >>>>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the protools
>> > guy
>> >>>> could
>> >>>>> drag them in to his session.
>> >>>>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just tried
> to
>> >>>> listen
>> >>>>> to this in my wife's car, and she has a REAL good CD player, and it
>> >>> won't
>> >>>>> play".
>> >>>>> To which I say....."It's a DATA CD"
>> >>>>> "Oh....it's a data CD?"
>> >>>>> "Yes, whould you like an audio CD so you can play it for your
>> >>>>> wife?"
>> >>>>> "Yes, maybe that's a good idea"
>> >>>>> So he came right back and I burnt an audio CD for him.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The things you have to put up with sometimes.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Rod
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >
>
>That is super cool. I want it!

"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message news:43fccd92$1@linux...
> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=936
>Deej, you can read this long rant. But go here, too:

http://www.votersunite.org/

There is no bulletproof election system. I favor voting systems that are
run publicly, not privately. I wouldn't outsource elections across the
country to a few companies. It just invites corruption.

In Canada they vote with paper ballots. The count is quick and the
opportunity for fraud is much less than with invisibly hackable
computer-based systems.

An electronic voting machine with a removable memory card that can be
easily hacked on site is the wrong way to go. Any system hackable via
the internet is the wrong way to go. Any system with proprietary
software that cannot be tested for vote altering routines is the wrong
way to go. Any system that has a central counting server that can be
hacked is the wrong way to go.

Beyond making fraud easier, and difficult or impossible to trace,
computer-based systems also suffer software and hardware bugs and
failures that could change vote totals accidentally.

Proposals to tie the strengths of each together include touchscreen
systems that generate a voter-verifiable paper ballot. IF the paper
ballot is what is actually counted, that has potential. Some of these
schemes just have the paper as a backup for 1% random recounts in an
attempt to catch fraud, but they use the electronic count as THE count.
That is iffy. Some count paper ballots with scanners. The scanners can
be hacked, so testing with manual counts is important.

Right now there are a few companies wining and dining county clerks and
landing huge contracts. These companies count your vote. I've seen the
claim that 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two
companies: Diebold and ES&S. FWIW the vice president of Diebold and the
president of ES&S are reportedly brothers.

You mentioned felons, it's been reported that Diebold has five felons on
their development team and a Senior VP who was convicted of 23 counts of
felony theft.

Proprietary code runs on the machines. No one is allowed to look at the
code. Their technicians have way too much opportunity on-site and in
tabulation centers because the county people don't know how to run them.
Systems are inadequately tested and then given approval without real
tests for security and reliability.

Why is this happening? Follow the money.

Computer-based voting machines are sold as a way to make elections
easier for the clerks (clerks eat that up), but democracy isn't about
being easy. They are taking advantage of HAVA laws that spend large
amounts of your federal tax money on systems that are supposed to be
easier for handicapped voters, while making voting less secure and
accurate for all voters. Th
Re: Hey Aaron "one more thing" [message #63368 is a reply to message #63365] Thu, 19 January 2006 00:02 Go to previous message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Senior Member
om

PS. Other kinds of fraud exist, too. There are fights about registration
as you point out, and other tricks to slant the turnout. It just goes to
show how much the temptation to cheat brings out cheating. No amount of
fraud in one area justifies making the system worse in another. We
shouldn't have to accept systems that invite invisible electronic fraud,
especially knowing how strong the temptation is to cheat.

We're talking about the potential for hidden, major fraud opportunities
in all elections on every level. Not just presidential/electoral college
situations. It's not good.


DJ wrote:
> I'm with you there Jamie. It just seems like there is so much potential for
> fraud, not only with voting machines and punch cards but also with the
> additional problem of registration fraud and the inevitable muddying of the
> waters by the various interest groups who are always bitching about state
> laws which disallow those convicted of felons to vote. Rather than working
> to have the laws changed, they seem to want to keep them in place so that
> they can use them opportunistically at election time in order to paint the
> *establishment* as unfair and hard hearted. Then after the election is over,
> the whole issue is forgotten. It's incredibly hippocritical.
>
> What would you suggest as a bulletproof electoral system, keeping in mind
> that since this is a representative republic with an electoral college, the
> electors will have the final vote?
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43fce77a@linux...
>> Nice quote Deej, that takes me back. I think if Ronnie were still
>> around, he would be in strong support of reliable, secure, private,
>> voter-verified voting systems in the U. S. of A.
>>
>> As would any red blooded freedom loving American, like yourself. We're
>> not there at the moment and it's not a good thing for any voter and
>> taxpayer, be they Libertarian, Democrat, Republican, Green, Independent
>> or other.
>>
>> The unfortunate thing is that non-secure, non-verifiable systems were
>> proposed and actually adopted in some places to replace the chad fiasco.
>> Out of the frying pan into the fire.
>>
>> More here: http://www.blackboxvoting.org
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> Now there you go again..........
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
> news:43fcd7c0$1@linux...
>>>> What about those who don't have the civic mindedness to implement a
>>>> reliable, secure, private, voter-verifiable voting system? Without that
>>>> it doesn't matter who votes, it only matters who counts the votes.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DJ wrote:
>>>>> I agree. I think this should extend to those who don't have the native
>>>>> intelligence to sign/punch/or otherwise properly manipulate a ballot
> as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:43fa69db$1@linux...
>>>>>> Most humans are stupid, and shouldn't have breeding rights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jimmy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:43f9d6fe$1@linux...
>>>>>>> A couple of days ago I did some tracks for a client and burnt a
> CD-Rom
>>>>>> containing
>>>>>>> wave files for him to take to another studio to do some other work.
> It
>>>>> was
>>>>>>> labled "Data CD".
>>>>>>> I explained how all the files were perfectly synced so the protools
>>> guy
>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> drag them in to his session.
>>>>>>> Five minutes after he left my house he called, saying "I just tried
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