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Re: Your biggest reason for leaving Paris? [message #88463 is a reply to message #88431] Mon, 23 July 2007 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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Re: Your biggest reason for leaving Paris? [message #88474 is a reply to message #88463] Mon, 23 July 2007 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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>> I wouldn't mind having direct MIDI control over lights w/o having to
>> translate to DMX.
>
> I have that, direct midi to light packs, switchable to DMX as well... Adore
> them, wish they still made them. :(

That's cool, who made them?

I really like that the LED lights don't need dimmer packs, which means
less stuff to carry and hook up. It'd be handy to have lights that could
accept MIDI directly. They could still use an XLR connector. Switchable
between MIDI and DMX would be great.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.comPlease post here or contact me directly. Thanks!

Mark"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1gckf3tk95ffshtobig0rhetdvkfvqap7g@4ax.com...
> shouldn't be, just set up enough tracks.
>

So are you saying it shouldn't be possible but to go ahead and set up the
tracks anyway ..........or what?

;o)I have my doubts that ID has been working on PARIS, but I would
Re: Your biggest reason for leaving Paris? [message #88507 is a reply to message #88474] Tue, 24 July 2007 18:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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r /> giving it a try, depending on pricing, etc.
</end wishful thinking>

Neil"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>A native version would be the next logical step but it would be so archaic
>compared to Reaper, Cubase and others it would hardly be worth the trouble.

May a Hindu Holy Man molest you with his Yak stick!


DC

>
>
>Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>
>>You may be onto something there LaMont. Releasing native versions of the
>
>>software seems possible. The software side was ID's realm.
>>
>>Any non-compete agreements may be about to expire with Creative.
>>
>>With today's native hardware speeds, the fast PARIS hardware that
>>offloaded DSP processing from the computer's CPU may be somewhat
>>superfluous.
>>
>>The PARIS software could rock on an octo-core box.
>>
>>Things they could do include lifting the old hardward-bound 16 channel

>>limit, and finishing/fixing the MIDI implementation.
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>LaMont wrote:
>>> That's harsh
Re: Your biggest reason for leaving Paris? [message #88527 is a reply to message #88428] Wed, 25 July 2007 05:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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get="_blank">jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Now, this is what I'm talking about. Two way integration. Tradidtional I/O
>routing and VST plugin via Firwire ala SSL Duende.. Nice list $499.00
>
>http://www.lexiconpro.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=146No 88.2 or 96k? What were they thinking?

Graham

LaMont wrote:
> Now, this is what I'm talking about. Two way integration. Tradidtional I/O
> routing and VST plugin via Firwire ala SSL Duende.. Nice list $499.00
>
> http://www.lexiconpro.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=146....of keeping the price down...

David.

Graham Duncan wrote:
> No 88.2 or 96k? What were they thinking?
>
> Graham
>
> LaMont wrote:
>
>> Now, this is what I'm talking about. Two way integration. Tradidtional
>> I/O
>> routing and VST plugin via Firwire ala SSL Duende.. Nice list $499.00
>>
>> http://www.lexiconpro.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=146Agreed, LaMont, it would fill a niche, but still just a niche. But hey, I
hope you guys wind up with it if that's what you want.

TCB

"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>That's a powerful combo Thad(LIVE & SX), but an updated Paris for Mix and
>Recording Engineers is very much welcomed.
>
>Not everyone wanted not need all of the goodies in SX. When it comes time
>to mix the $$ jobs, Paris & Pro Tools are no#1 in my book. Notice that I
>did not say editing.. That dubious spot belongs to SX/Nuendo hands down..
>
>So, if an updated Paris did not have a midi sequencer, vsti hosting ....But
>HAD: Total Delay coompensation, even more flexible patchbay routing, and
>proper Asio2 plugin handling..Wow!!
>
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>I'm a capitalist, and I have a hard time a product that has been essentially
>>dormant for five years could possibly compete with products that have been
>>out there in the marketplace fighting with each other. I'm happy to look
>>at anything to see if it's a better mousetrap, but I can't imagine I'll
>prefer
>>it to my Live/SX combo rig that I'm running now.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in it's
>>>infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>>
>>>I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on
Mac
>>>OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>>
>>>So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking, routing,
>>>mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>>
>>>Well??? If he had all that
Re: Your biggest reason for leaving Paris? [message #88539 is a reply to message #88527] Wed, 25 July 2007 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaMont is currently offline  LaMont
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I had a SCSI that did that.. worked w/442, but wouldn't with a MEC. I =
think you probably hit it right on the head.=20

AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46fb4262@linux...
AA,
I did find one scsi cable that had a couple dead pins out of five =
cables.
It allowed the 442 to work though. ? . Maybe those pins aren't used
in the Paris pin out? I chucked it anyway. Could be the source =
of
all evil.
Tom




"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46fa1183@linux...
Aaron,
Thanks, I won't know about the modules until some new Mecs get =
delivered here.
I think I have the four I need almost on their way from multiple =
sources.

It looks like a chip in the master section of the scsi scorched mec =
got hit bad. We're
looking for the chip now. The other mecs may have less of a =
problem. Maybe some DC=20
down the WC line? Just a guess. Everything was AC grounded and no =
polarity shift.

We learned there's all kinds of protection fuses in line on the =
master section. It seems 'they' weren't
fried but the expensive stuff right after them was. . .
Tom





"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:46f9cf56@linux...
I'll also toss out an edumacated guess that only the interface =
portion got fried and all your MEC cards are likely to be ok... holla =
back on that man.=20
Sorry, no spare MEC's around here, in fact I'm going to be growing =
my rig again shortly with a few more EDS cards :)

Say Tom, have you called The Soniq about repairing yours... he =
offers warranty on his work yano :)

AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46f9621b@linux...
Most absolutely hardware. 3 Mecs down for the count.
No word on the 10 modules that were onboard during
the mishap.

Anyone have a spare mec they can part with?
Assamundo


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46f4fa9a@linux...
I'll double check Aaron.

Continuity is my middle name.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message =
news:46f4e6c0@linux...
Dude, if you have 3 toasted MEC's I think it VERY likely you =
had a bad cable that put the hurt on them all as you swapped around =
parts.=20
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:46f472e2@linux...
Intersted people,
I know 3 fried mecs is unlikely. It's not confirmed until =
Tuesday=20
when I'll check the two that might 'still work'. The =
hardware solution
is seeming to be the most logic
Re: Your biggest reason for leaving Paris? [message #88549 is a reply to message #88539] Wed, 25 July 2007 21:33 Go to previous message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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cable at the Master Mec sometime during that</FONT></DIV>
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was smoke in=20
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hopefully=20
unfried mec at another studio on Tuesday to =
confirm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>that neither works.&nbsp; =
If I'm=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It ain't over till it's=20
over.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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hard with=20
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think=20
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more=20
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high number=20
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familiar=20
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since=20
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TheSoniq, I=20
guess.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Deej<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp; "Tom =
Bruhl"=20
&lt;<A=20
=
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Hmmm?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
I'll know for a fact next Tuesday when =
there's<BR>&gt;&nbsp;=20
time to test a couple on another=20
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