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| Re: smart keyboard - I want one [message #68335 is a reply to message #68327] |
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Deej [1]
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; <mike@......> wrote:
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>Hi Rich,
>
>Windows 98 doesn't support 48 bit addressing for hard drives, which means
>you can only use drives no larger than 120 GB. Larger drives will appear
>to work, but what happens is the data wraps around, so the 121st GB is actually
>the first GB, and your HD gets scrambled as soon as you write to it.
>
>There are two ways to deal with this. Rudolph Lowe wrote a custom driver
>that has never worked properly for me. It may be possible to make it work
>properly, but I've had problems with it.
>
>The other way is to buy a PCI IDE controller card that comes with a 48bit
>lba driver for windows 98. I've never tried this, but I think I'm about
>to.
>
>Sorry about the bad news,
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>"Rich Kelley" <rich_and_barbara@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>>Howdy,<
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| Re: smart keyboard - I want one [message #68337 is a reply to message #68336] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 20:48 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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somebody correct me if I'm wrong).
>
>I have used it on 200GB IDE drives within the last 12 months, but they were
>partitioned into 1 x 80GB and 1 x 120GB apiece, I haven't tried to partition
>an entire 200GB HDD as one partition yet. I'm trying it out on some 250GB
>SATA drives in a couple of weeks, so I hope it can be done !
>
>I can email the patch to you if you like.
>
>Cheers,
>Stewart.
>
>
>Aaron Allen wrote in message <44901a72$1@linux>...
>>That was an old school motherboard limit that windows got blamed for.
>>AA
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>>
>>"Rich Kelley" <rich_and_barbara@netzero.net> wrote in message
>>news:448f4053$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I've had no problems formatting any large (+137 GB) drive up to 137GB,
on
>>> Win98FE or Win98SE. I never ran into a 32GB limit.
>>>
>>> However, if I paid for 200 or 300 GB, then I want to be able to use it
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I believe you can only have partition sizes of 32GB with FAT32???
>>>>
>>>>James
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
>
>Although PP could come in handy, say for identifying a particular key, I see
no advantage to it over relative pitch. As far as it having negatives, such
as knowing when something is not in tune, the same is also true of relative
pitch. This is what bothers me when I hear something out of tune
(relatively). I don't have to know the name of the key (which is really
arbitrary anyway). To what tolerance is PP? How many cents are we talking
about. At what point centswise does something not exactly in tune bother
you? I don't think this will change with practice. If it doesn't bother
you now, I dont think it would with pitch practice.
I do think what is really important is ear training, especially in jazz
where you have all types of subtle voicings and progressions to create a
harmony behind a melody or just walls of color. All the voicings have a
different "sound" and what you leave out as well as how you move between
changes makes a big difference. For me this was the most important part of<
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| Re: smart keyboard - I want one [message #68339 is a reply to message #68337] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 22:14 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
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I've heard
> the song enough to be able to remember it. I can usually accurately guess
> most standard chord changes, and can also deal with most of the typical
modifications
> to normal keys used in pop songs... say incorporating chords like G major
> or D major into a song in E major for example. All that stuff is fairly
second
> nature, as I learned originally by ear using the Suzuki method. I was
working
> out songs off the radio at age ten, so I've pretty much got that down, but
> I do need a starting key.
>
> The issue is that I'm bored with it all I guess, and I want more new
ground
> to explore. Anything I already know the sound of, I know the sound of. ;o)
> I want to do things that I don't know the sound of, that is unusual, and
> for that I'm going to have to do a lot more ear training. I want to master
> jazz, and I'd like to be able to just imagine a chord that I want to hear,
> and play it... and with jazz that means not just major and minor and the
> odd seventh or sixth, but 9ths, 11ths, 13ths, diminished, augmented, and
> every other variation... and not necessarily chords with simple obvious
> relationships to the current chord or key, but often parts that fit in
very
> odd ways. This is all stuff I'm not used to. This is all stuff which is
hard
> for me with just relative pitch, so I'm going to have to do some training
> anyhow. I figure it's worth exploring perfect pitch as an option.
>
> The thing is, I figure, there is evidence that you can train perfect
pitch,
> and if you can, I want it. ;o)
>
> I'm thinking that, while to a degree it would be possible, to train my
relative
> pitch up to a standard where I can immediately recognise any chord at all
> from a given known starting point, that it would be the long road. If
there's
> a chance of circumventing the process by aquiring perfect pitch, then I'm
> willing to do that. The question is how much effort will it take to get
the
> skills to the point where any sound I hear in my head will be immediately
> translated to an actual note.
>
> In any case, the perfect pitch training I'm doing is certainly aiding my
> relative pitch skills also. A lot of the note guessing is done using
relative
> pitch, so I'm kind of killing two birds with one stone. When I'm finished,
> my ear will have improved in both relative pitch and perfect pitch, so
that's
> got to be a good thing. If all I acheive is the ability to pick any
interval,
> first guess, every time, using relative pitch, even intervals of several
> octaves, well, that will be a significant improvement, but if I can aquire
> perfect pitch, all the better.
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
> >Kim,
> >
> > Personally, I don't want perfect pitch. However, the ability to
> >identify intervals and chords by ear is something that has been very
useful
>
> >to me both in learning, teaching, and performing. I don't know if you
can
>
> >learn "perfect pitch" or not, but I have taught many students to identify
>
> >intervals and chords, so I know "relative pitch" can be learned. I tried
> to
> >get my students to the point where I could play and name a chord for them
>
> >and then have them identify the chords that followed just by listening.
>
> >Some got there and some didn't, but all made some progress.
> >
> >Good luck,
> >
> >Sarah
> >www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
> >
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:448feeb1$1@linux...
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, I'm slugging away on this little app, doing maybe an hour a day
>
> >> spread
> >> out, hearing notes, guessing notes, pressing notes... getting about
95%
> >> correct most of the time, though I'm still not using the full chromatic
>
> >> scale,
> >> which brings me down to about 85%. I'm using C major, or the last
couple
> >> of days D major. And also using Eb minor pentatonic (ie all the black
>
> >> notes).
> >> All in all though, I get these patches where it just falls into place
> for
> >> a bit and I get like 50 notes correct in a row, just flying through
them.
> >> Over the last week I've really tried to speed up my response time and
> just
> >> go with my gut feeling, and I'm finding it's working more and more. The
>
> >> instant
> >> response brought my score down a lot when I started, but it's back up
>
> >> again,
> >> and I'm quite happy with my progress.
> >>
> >> Of course, there's plenty of relative pitch in my 95% figures
contributing
> >> to them, and sometimes the program plays the same note twice or even
more
> >> in a row, or an octave, or a semitone, or some other simple interval,
> so
> >> on sheer "instant response pitch guessing without relative or other
> >> assistance"
> >> my score wouldn't be that high, but at the same time I'm confident I'm
>
> >> getting
> >> the hang of it. Often my relative pitch is thrown and I don't know what
> it
> >> is, yet my gut feel gets it right mostly.
> >>
> >> I've been reading all over the net for clues as to what to look for,
and
> >> whether indeed it is possible to develop it. There's certainly a lot of
>
> >> controversy
> >> around the topic. Many claim it can't be learned, that you must be born
>
> >> with
> >> it, some of whom have tried out one course or another, but flying in
the
> >> face of this are a few examples of people who claim to have developed
> it
> >> late in life, or know people who have. I'm finding little evidence of
>
> >> people
> >> who devloped it from any course however, so I'm just battling through
> with
> >> lots of testing myself, and using my own methods to try and train my
ear,
> >> based on what I'm hearing is the experience of those who have the
ability,
> >> and I think I'm starting to hear something.
> >>
> >> I've had a few good experiences over the past couple of days which have
>
> >> given
> >> me hope. The first was that somehow Abba's Waterloo got stuck in my
head
> >> (no, that didn't give me hope) and upon slowing it down in my head an
>
> >> listening
> >> to the notes I guessed the two notes of "Waterloo" were B and A.
Followed
> >> the rest of the melody "Couldn't escape if I wanted to" down past G to
> F#
> >> and back to G and went "Yep, that's it. That's definately it". Checked
>
> >> later
> >> and sure enough I was dead on.
> >>
> >> I had another experience today where I heard another song in D which I
>
> >> also
> >> worked out, and heard two tunes on the way back home in the car which
> I
> >> sensed
> >> were in A, and could hear the notes of the riff. When I got near a
> >> keyboard
> >> I checked and sure enough was bang on.
> >>
> >> For a long while I've been able to work out keys by using other songs
> as
> >> reference points... imagining a known song and getting a note out of
>
> >> that,
> >> and comparing. Now I'm finding however that the notes just come to
me...
> >> that I can hear the quality of the note, and know what note it is.
It's
> >> a different thing. I'm remembering the notes, and differentiating
between
> >> them. It's only a vague sense at this stage, but it's there, and it's
>
> >> enough
> >> to give me confidence that I should continue.
> >>
> >> There is also a lot of controversy, as mentioned by our AA here, about
>
> >> whether
> >> it's a good thing all round to even have perfect pitch at all. My
feeling
> >> on this is that, as a person who (hopefully) develops the skill at a
later
> >> stage in life, long after developing my relative pitch skills, long
after
> >> learning to play, and long after establishing my taste in music, that
> I'm
> >> hoping that I can take all the old stuff I have learned with me also.
> I'm
> >> hoping that, for example, I will be able to transpose a tune my old
way.
> >> I'm thinking that those born with perfect pitch come to rely on it,
> >> whereas
> >> I am unlikely to, as I have learned to do without it already. Hence I
> am
> >> picturing that I should be able to use it when appropriate, but
basically
> >> turn it off when I don't need it, or at least ignore it when something
> is
> >> off key and just listen "how I used to"... though time will tell if
I'm
> >> right. In any case, I've heard a lot of different stories about such
> >> things,
> >> and how differently some possesors of perfect pitch respond to out of
> key
> >> parts, transposition, and similar such things. Some have trouble with
> some
> >> things and not others. Some seem to have the best of all worlds and
simply
> >> use it when they want, and experience little in the way of negatives.
> I'm
> >> hoping, seeing as how I know how to live without it already, that I can
> be
> >> one of those who doesn't experience too many negatives from it...
> >>
> >> ...assuming I aquire the skill at all.
> >>
> >> I really am starting to feel that want to aquire it just so that I can
>
> >> explain
> >> to all the people I've seen post that "It can't be learned" that, in
fact,
> >> it can. I'd like to sort that one out at least.
> >>
> >> The point is though, that notes and keys do sound different to me. Some
>
> >> are
> >> more happy, and bright, where others are mellow and soft, and others
still
> >> are, well, kinda rounded. I'm hearing this, and I'm becoming
increasingly
> >> confident that my training is increasing my perception of this.
> >>
> >> I'm going to have to do this, because I'll look like a goose if I
don't.
> >> ;o)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kim.
> >
> >
>The thing is I guess that the program I'm using will be helping my relative
pitch also. Indeed Chris Latham argued that that is possibly all it is doing.
I mean it just feeds me random notes, and some of the time I clearly use
relative pitch to work out which note it is. How much of the time? Who knows?
The first note is certainly harder than later notes.
If I can get to pretty much 100% hit rate on the program, and find I still
don't have perfect pitch, at least I'll know that my relative pitch is second
to none, and at least in that I will have acheived something.
Cheers,
Kim.
"RiverLake Farms" <edna@texomaonline.com> wrote:
>Although PP could come in handy, say for identifying a particular key, I
see
>no advantage to it over relative pitch. As far as it having negatives,
such
>as knowing when something is not in tune, the same is also true of relative
>pitch. This is what bo
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| Re: smart keyboard - I want one [message #68340 is a reply to message #68339] |
Wed, 17 May 2006 22:38 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
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thers me when I hear something out of tune
>(relatively). I don't have to know the name of the key (which is really
>arbitrary anyway). To what tolerance is PP? How many cents are we talking
>about. At what point centswise does something not exactly in tune bother
>you? I don't think this will change with practice. If it doesn't bother
>you now, I dont think it would with pitch practice.
>
>I do think what is really important is ear training, especially in jazz
>where you have all types of subtle voicings and progressions to create a
>harmony behind a melody or just walls of color. All the voicings have a
>different "sound" and what you leave out as well as how you move between
>changes makes a big difference. For me this was the most important part
of
>learning music since it gets more deeply into the artistic aspects. I do
>believe one with a decent ear can learn to identify these textures or
>"sounds." There was a good book on voicings, by Dan Haerle I believe, used
>at NTSU.
>MHO,
>Edna
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4490ae93$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> I'm already pretty good with all that, for the most part. I mean if a
song
>> is in a normal major or minor key, for the most part I can, given the
>first
>> chord, fairly much fudge my way through it first bash, assuming I've heard
>> the song enough to be able to remember it. I can usually accurately guess
>> most standard chord changes, and can also deal with most of the typical
>modifications
>> to normal keys used in pop songs... say incorporating chords like G major
>> or D major into a song in E major for example. All that stuff is fairly
>second
>> nature, as I learned originally by ear using the Suzuki method. I was
>working
>> out songs off the radio at age ten, so I've pretty much got that down,
but
>> I do need a starting key.
>>
>> The issue is that I'm bored with it all I guess, and I want more new
>ground
>> to explore. Anything I already know the sound of, I know the sound of.
;o)
>> I want to do things that I don't know the sound of, that is unusual, and
>> for that I'm going to have to do a lot more ear training. I want to master
>> jazz, and I'd like to be able to just imagine a chord that I want to hear,
>> and play it... and with jazz that means not just major and minor and
the
>> odd seventh or sixth, but 9ths, 11ths, 13ths, diminished, augmented, and
>> every other variation... and not necessarily chords with simple obvious
>> relationships to the current chord or key, but often parts that fit in
>very
>> odd ways. This is all stuff I'm not used to. This is all stuff which is
>hard
>> for me with just relative pitch, so I'm going to have to do some training
>> anyhow. I figure it's worth exploring perfect pitch as an option.
>>
>> The thing is, I figure, there is evidence that you can train perfect
>pitch,
>> and if you can, I want it. ;o)
>>
>> I'm thinking that, while to a degree it would be possible, to train my
>relative
>> pitch up to a standard where I can immediately recognise any chord at
all
>> from a given known starting point, that it would be the long road. If
>there's
>> a chance of circumventing the process by aquiring perfect pitch, then
I'm
>> willing to do that. The question is how much effort will it take to get
>the
>> skills to the point where any sound I hear in my head will be immediately
>> translated to an actual note.
>>
>> In any case, the perfect pitch training I'm doing is certainly aiding
my
>> relative pitch skills also. A lot of the note guessing is done using
>relative
>> pitch, so I'm kind of killing two birds with one stone. When I'm finished,
>> my ear will have improved in both relative pitch and perfect pitch, so
>that's
>> got to be a good thing. If all I acheive is the ability to pick any
>interval,
>> first guess, every time, using relative pitch, even intervals of several
>> octaves, well, that will be a significant improvement, but if I can aquire
>> perfect pitch, all the better.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>> >Kim,
>> >
>> > Personally, I don't want perfect pitch. However, the ability to
>> >identify intervals and chords by ear is something that has been very
>useful
>>
>> >to me both in learning, teaching, and performing. I don't know if you
>can
>>
>> >learn "perfect pitch" or not, but I have taught many students to identify
>>
>> >intervals and chords, so I know "relative pitch" can be learned. I tried
>> to
>> >get my students to the point where I could play and name a chord for
them
>>
>> >and then have them identify the chords that followed just by listening.
>>
>> >Some got there and some didn't, but all made some progress.
>> >
>> >Good luck,
>> >
>> >Sarah
>> >www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:448feeb1$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Well, I'm slugging away on this little app, doing maybe an hour a day
>>
>> >> spread
>> >> out, hearing notes, guessing notes, pressing notes... getting about
>95%
>> >> correct most of the time, though I'm still not using the full chromatic
>>
>> >> scale,
>> >> which brings me down to about 85%. I'm using C major, or the last
>couple
>> >> of days D major. And also using Eb minor pentatonic (ie all the black
>>
>> >> notes).
>> >> All in all though, I get these patches where it just falls into place
>> for
>> >> a bit and I get like 50 notes correct in a row, just flying through
>them.
>> >> Over the last week I've really tried to speed up my response time and
>> just
>> >> go with my gut feeling, and I'm finding it's working more and more.
The
>>
>> >> instant
>> >> response brought my score down a lot when I started, but it's back
up
>>
>> >> again,
>> >> and I'm quite happy with my progress.
>> >>
>> >> Of course, there's plenty of relative pitch in my 95% figures
>contributing
>> >> to them, and sometimes the program plays the same note twice or even
>more
>> >> in a row, or an octave, or a semitone, or some other simple interval,
>> so
>> >> on sheer "instant response pitch guessing without relative or other
>> >> assistance"
>> >> my score wouldn't be that high, but at the same time I'm confident
I'm
>>
>> >> getting
>> >> the hang of it. Often my relative pitch is thrown and I don't know
what
>> it
>> >> is, yet my gut feel gets it right mostly.
>> >>
>> >> I've been reading all over the net for clues as to what to look for,
>and
>> >> whether indeed it is possible to develop it. There's certainly a lot
of
>>
>> >> controversy
>> >> around the topic. Many claim it can't be learned, that you must be
born
>>
>> >> with
>> >> it, some of whom have tried out one course or another, but flying in
>the
>> >> face of this are a few examples of people who claim to have developed
>> it
>> >> late in life, or know people who have. I'm finding little evidence
of
>>
>> >> people
>> >> who devloped it from any course however, so I'm just battling through
>> with
>> >> lots of testing myself, and using my own methods to try and train my
>ear,
>> >> based on what I'm hearing is the experience of those who have the
>ability,
>> >> and I think I'm starting to hear something.
>> >>
>> >> I've had a few good experiences over the past couple of days which
have
>>
>> >> given
>> >> me hope. The first was that somehow Abba's Waterloo got stuck in my
>head
>> >> (no, that didn't give me hope) and upon slowing it down in my head
an
>>
>> >> listening
>> >> to the notes I guessed the two notes of "Waterloo" were B and A.
>Followed
>> >> the rest of the melody "Couldn't escape if I wanted to" down past G
to
>> F#
>> >> and back to G and went "Yep, that's it. That's definately it". Checked
>>
>> >> later
>> >> and sure enough I was dead on.
>> >>
>> >> I had another experience today where I heard another song in D which
I
>>
>> >> also
>> >> worked out, and heard two tunes on the way back home in the car which
>> I
>> >> sensed
>> >> were in A, and could hear the notes of the riff. When I got near a
>> >> keyboard
>> >> I checked and sure enough was bang on.
>> >>
>> >> For a long while I've been able to work out keys by using other songs
>> as
>> >> reference points... imagining a known song and getting a note out
of
>>
>> >> that,
>> >> and comparing. Now I'm finding however that the notes just come to
>me...
>> >> that I can hear the quality of the note, and know what note it is.
>It's
>> >> a different thing. I'm remembering the notes, and differentiating
>between
>> >> them. It's only a vague sense at this stage, but it's there, and it's
>>
>> >> enough
>> >> to give me confidence that I should continue.
>> >>
>> >> There is also a lot of controversy, as mentioned by our AA here, about
>>
>> >> whether
>> >> it's a good thing all round to even have perfect pitch at all. My
>feeling
>> >> on this is that, as a person who (hopefully) develops the skill at
a
>later
>> >> stage in life, long after developing my relative pitch skills, long
>after
>> >> learning to play, and long after establishing my taste in music, that
>> I'm
>> >> hoping that I can take all the old stuff I have learned with me also.
>> I'm
>> >> hoping that, for example, I will be able to transpose a tune my old
>way.
>> >> I'm thinking that those born with perfect pitch come to rely on it,
>> >> whereas
>> >> I am unlikely to, as I have learned to do without it already. Hence
I
>> am
>> >> picturing that I should be able to use it when appropriate, but
>basically
>> >> turn it off when I don't need it, or at least ignore it when something
>> is
>> >> off key and just listen "how I used to"... though time will tell if
>I'm
>> >> right. In any case, I've heard a lot of different stories about such
>> >> things,
>> >> and how differently some possesors of perfect pitch respond to out
of
>> key
>> >> parts, transposition, and similar such things. Some have trouble with
>> some
>> >> things and not others. Some seem to have the best of all worlds and
>simply
>> >> use it when they want, and experience little in the way of negatives.
>> I'm
>> >> hoping, seeing as how I know how to live without it already, that I
can
>> be
>> >> one of those who doesn't experience too many negatives from it...
>> >>
>> >> ...assuming I aquire the skill at all.
>> >>
>> >> I really am starting to feel that want to aquire it just so that I
can
>>
>> >> explain
>> >> to all the people I've seen post that "It can't be learned" that, in
>fact,
>> >> it can. I'd like to sort that one out at least.
>> >>
>> >> The point is though, that notes and keys do sound different to me.
Some
>>
>> >> are
>> >> more happy, and bright, where others are mellow and soft, and others
>still
>> >> are, well, kinda rounded. I'm hearing this, and I'm becoming
>increasingly
>> >> confident that my training is increasing my perception of this.
>> >>
>> >> I'm going to have to do this, because I'll look like a goose if I
>don't.
>> >> ;o)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Kim.
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Hi Rich,
My understanding is that if you are using the built in windows drivers for
your IDE controller under windows 9x and you are using drives (not partitions)
that are larger than 137GB and you try to write to a sector above 137GB (in
any partition), you will scramble your drive.
You may be using drivers provided by your MB manufacturer that support 48bit
addressing. I couldn't get a straight answer out of Asus about mine.
Good luck!
Mike
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Thu, 18 May 2006 06:55 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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"Rich Kelley" <rich_and_barbara@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>Thanks for the response. So here's what I don't understand:
>
>I have two other drives that are larger than 137GB, 200GB and 250GB. I
have
>partitioned those drives into two partitions. The partitions show up in
>Win98SE as two separate drives with unique drive letters. I have no problem
>seeing and writing to the partitions. When I ask for properties on the
partitions
>they report their size correctly.
>
>It's only the 400GB that is not working properly. I can only see two of
>three partitions that I have made.
>
>In my admittedly limited understanding of this issue, I thought that it
is
>only the size of the PARTITION that must be below 137GB - I can have as
many
>sub 137GB partitions on a drive as I'd like and the drive can be bigger
than
>137GB.
>
>Am I mistaken? Are my 200GB and 250GB headed for data loss and I just haven't
>experienced it yet? I seem to be getting both conflicting answers here
and
>conflicting results.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Rich
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@......> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Rich,
>>
>>Windows 98 doesn't support 48 bit addressing for hard drives, which means
>>you can only use drives no larger than 120 GB. Larger drives will appear
>>to work, but what happens is the data wraps around, so the 121st GB is
actually
>>the first GB, and your HD gets scrambled as soon as you write to it.
>>
>>There are two ways to deal with this. Rudolph Lowe wrote a custom driver
>>that has never worked properly for me. It may be possible to make it work
>>properly, but I've had problems with it.
>>
>>The other way is to buy a PCI IDE controller card that comes with a 48bit
>>lba driver for windows 98. I've never tried this, but I think I'm about
>>to.
>>
>>Sorry about the bad news,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>"Rich Kelley" <rich_and_barbara@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Howdy,
>>>
>>>I have a new Seagate 400 GB HD I'm trying to set up on Win98SE with FAT
>>32.
>>> I'm trying to make 3 133 GB partitions on the drive (to stay below the
>>137GB
>>>limit for any one partition). System is an old MSI K7 Pro (MS-6195) w/
>>a
>>>900 MHz Athlon slot A. I'm able to make the three partitions using Seagate's
>>>partitioning program that came with the drive when I have the drive on
>my
>>>primary master.
>>>
>>>However, when the drive is on the secondary IDE cable the third partition
>>>is messed up. In the disk partitioning program it says that the partition
>>>is a FAT 16 partition (it's not), and in Win98SE I can't see the third
>partition
>>>at all. I checked the drive on another Win98SE system (also old, Iwill
>>XP333
>>>with a Athlon 1800+) and couldn't see the third partition there either.
>>>
>>>Any ideas what's up? I should be able to see all three partitions in
Win98SE,
>>>correct? Is it the fact that the boards are so old? Could it be a problem
>>>with the drive?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>>Rich Kelley
>>
>Just get a screwdriver, jam it into the slot and leverage it up and down
until therer is an area of the slot is big enough to reach in and grab the
CD with a pair ofneedle nosed pliers.
;o)
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:4491e4f1$1@linux...
> excellent suggestion Dave!
>
> d
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4491c47d$1@linux...
> > Drive in reverse really really fast and jam on the brakes?? ;-)
> >
> > David.
> >
> > Mike R. wrote:
> >> Any ideas on how to eject a CD from a car stereo when the eject button
> >> won't
> >> do the trick? I'm ready to try out the needle nose pliers, but before
I
> >> get
> >> to breakin' the CD, I thought maybe I'd see if anyone had a better
idea.
> >>
> >> Thanks gents,
> >> MR
> >>
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Um . . . processor?
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------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C690DE.248F2C20--so are you saying that PC's actually work?????? macheads aren't going
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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 00:45:19 -0700, "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com>
wrote:
>If you haven't seen the new TV ads for Mac, this won't make much sense, but this is the one I'd like to see:
>
>FADE IN:
>
>
>
>interior, bright, spacious room, background non-descript
>
>
>
>PC (nerdy older guy) and MAC (young cute guy) facing camera, standing side by side between two computer monitors
>
>
>
>MAC
>
> Hi, I'm a Mac.
>
>
>
>PC
>
> Hi, I'm a PC.
>
>
>
>MAC
>
> I'm into music, video, games, stuff like that . . .
>
>
>
>PC
>
> Wow! Music, video, and games? Coooool . . . Wish I could do that . . . (winks at camera)
>
>
>
>MAC
>
> Yeah, and I'm really cute and hip-looking, too.
>
>
>
>PC
>
> Yes, you are. Do you have the 2GHz processor, or the 1.83?
>
>
>
>MAC
>
> Um . . . processor?
>
>
>
>PC
>
> Uh, never mind. Hey, I like games, too. I just got a GeForce 7800 GTX graphics card installed.
>
>
>
>M
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| Re: smart keyboard - I want one [message #68359 is a reply to message #68345] |
Fri, 19 May 2006 01:55 |
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Messages: 1976
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> I'm
> >>
> >> >> getting
> >> >> the hang of it. Often my relative pitch is thrown and I don't know
> what
> >> it
> >> >> is, yet my gut feel gets it right mostly.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've been reading all over the net for clues as to what to look for,
> >and
> >> >> whether indeed it is possible to develop it. There's certainly a lot
> of
> >>
> >> >> controversy
> >> >> around the topic. Many claim it can't be learned, that you must be
> born
> >>
> >> >> with
> >> >> it, some of whom have tried out one course or another, but flying in
> >the
> >> >> face of this are a few examples of people who claim to have
developed
> >> it
> >> >> late in life, or know people who have. I'm finding little evidence
> of
> >>
> >> >> people
> >> >> who devloped it from any course however, so I'm just battling
through
> >> with
> >> >> lots of testing myself, and using my own methods to try and train my
> >ear,
> >> >> based on what I'm hearing is the experience of those who have the
> >ability,
> >> >> and I think I'm starting to hear something.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've had a few good experiences over the past couple of days which
> have
> >>
> >> >> given
> >> >> me hope. The first was that somehow Abba's Waterloo got stuck in my
> >head
> >> >> (no, that didn't give me hope) and upon slowing it down in my head
> an
> >>
> >> >> listening
> >> >> to the notes I guessed the two notes of "Waterloo&quo
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