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| Re: OT - MB recomendation sought [message #66685 is a reply to message #66678] |
Fri, 14 April 2006 08:03   |
audioguy_editout_
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ect
> >>studio clients.
> >
> >True. I've given up recording other people though. For now anyhow. I used
> >to find it too frustrating. I find it frustrating enough dealing with my
> >own inadequacies, so when a client is less skilled than me... ARGHHH!!!
> >
> >My relative pitch is quite good. I mean give me your average pop song,
and
> >if I am told, or able to work out, what key it's in, I can for the most
> part
> >follow the whole thing all the way through in terms of what the chords
are
> >doing and the like. I get thrown a bit by odd key changes and the like
however.
> >I'd like my perception to be bullet proof.
> >
> >I learned music initially by the Suzuki method, which is by ear, so my
ear
> >is generally very good. I just think it would be nice if it was better.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kim.
> >
> >>Start with intervals. Move on to chords (inversions too).
> >>Be able to sing what you hear. I can use any CD for ear
> >>training. It's almost a constant in my world. Just focus
> >>on bass, vocal or whatever is somewhat deceiving to you.
> >>If you can sing i
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| Re: OT - MB recomendation sought [message #66687 is a reply to message #66684] |
Fri, 14 April 2006 09:05   |
Chris Ludwig
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ten to a =
> >>song on
> >> the radio and just easily hear what key it's in each time, or what =
> >>chord
> >> is playing, or what note the melody is on. Often I can work it out, by
> >=
> >>referring
> >> to other songs in my head, but I'm far from just recognising every =
> >>note straight
> >> off.
> >>
> >> Do you think it's something that can be learned? Has anybody done it?
> >>
> >> I know relative pitch is just a matter of training, but my relative =
> >>pitch
> >> is pretty good usually.
> >>
> >> Any opinions?
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kim.
> >>
> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> >><HTML><HEAD>
> >><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> >>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> >><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=3DGENERATOR>
> >><STYLE></STYLE>
> >></HEAD>
> >><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have you finished your jazz=20
> >>training?!?!</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wow.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Really though,</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is it about perfect pitch that=20
> >>you would like?</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It would drive me bananas. I have =
> >>really good=20
> >>relative pitch</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and it bugs me enough with the less =
> >>than=20
> >>perfect</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>studio clients.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Start with intervals. Move on to =
> >>chords=20
> >>(inversions too).</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Be able to sing what you hear. I =
> >>can use any=20
> >>CD for ear</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>training. It's almost a constant =
> >>in my=20
> >>world. Just focus</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on bass, vocal or whatever is somewhat
> >=
> >>deceiving to=20
> >>you.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you can sing it you are more than =
> >>half way=20
> >>there.</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm listening,</FONT></DIV>
> >>&
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| Re: OT - MB recomendation sought [message #66688 is a reply to message #66687] |
Fri, 14 April 2006 09:12  |
audioguy_editout_
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lt;DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE=20
> >>style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> >>BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> >> <DIV>"Kim" <<A=20
> >> =
> >>href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>>=
> >> wrote=20
> >> in message <A=20
> >> =
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>>href=3D"news:445c1990$1@linux">news:445c1990$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
> >>Now=20
> >> there's a school of thought that says that either you've got it, or=20
> >> you<BR>don't.<BR><BR>There's this guy on the other hand who reckons it
> >=
> >>can be=20
> >> learned, but then<BR>he's in the business of convincing people of =
> >>that:<BR><A=20
> >> =
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>>href=3D"http://www.perfectpitch.com/">http://www.perfectpitch.com/</A><BR=
> >>><BR>I'm=20
> >> thinking of buying the course, but at $139 I wouldn't want to shell =
> >>it<BR>out=20
> >> for nothing. On the other hand if it works, then $139 is the =
> >>bargain<BR>of the=20
> >> century.<BR><BR>Does anybody here actually know anyone who has =
> >>developed it? A=20
> >> person who<BR>was a muso, and didn't have it, but then somehow learned
> >=
> >>it, or=20
> >> developed<BR>it, later? Is it possible?<BR><BR>I have kinda of partial
> >=
> >>perfect=20
> >> pitch. I'm thinking that if anybody can develop<BR>it that I would be
> >=
> >>able to.=20
> >> Sometimes I hear a song and know what key it's<BR>in straight away. It
> >=
> >>can=20
> >> just be obvious to me. And if I start imagining<BR>chords on piano =
> >>usually I=20
> >> can hear them, and know what pitch they are, and<BR>that they are =
> >>right in my=20
> >> head, and know exactly what they would sound like<BR>mostly. I can =
> >>tune a=20
> >> guitar with no strings on it and get it within about<BR>5-10 cents of
> >=
> >>in tune=20
> >> every time. But I can't reliably listen to a song on<BR>the radio and
> >=
> >>just=20
> >> easily hear what key it's in each time, or what chord<BR>is playing,
> =
> >>or what=20
> >> note the melody is on. Often I can work it out, by referring<BR>to =
> >>other songs=20
> >> in my head, but I'm far from just recognising every note=20
> >> straight<BR>off.<BR><BR>Do you think it's something that can be =
> >>learned? Has=20
> >> anybody done it?<BR><BR>I know relative pitch is just a matter of =
> >>training,=20
> >> but my relative pitch<BR>is pretty good usually.<BR><BR>Any=20
> >> opinions?<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML >
> >>
> >>
> >
>More like shades of coloring.. not hard black/white colors.
AA
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:445c2473$
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