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Kim is currently offline  Kim
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ductID=146Yeah, i been lookin' at that one. Wonder how well it works, and
what "kind" of Lexi it sounds like... IOW, closer to a 480L, or
closer to an LXP-1?

Neil


"LaMont" <
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88530 is a reply to message #88526] Wed, 25 July 2007 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Being
a independent consultant of sorts, the sixty bucks a month is well worth
it to keep connected to customers while on the road.


JeffOK, someone here pointed me in the direction of the audio damage plug-ins.
www.audiodamage.com. I originally went to look at the DubStation, an analog
delay emulation. I'm happy to report that I now own their flanger, phaser,
delay, plate reverb.

Really cool stuff.

TCBForgot, I also picked up their step sequencer but I don't think you rock'n'roll
guys would care so much about that. It still kicks ass.

Super
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88531 is a reply to message #88530] Wed, 25 July 2007 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cool plugs, BIG ATTITUDE.

TCB

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>OK, someone here point
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88533 is a reply to message #88526] Wed, 25 July 2007 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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t; <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Forgot, I also picked up their step sequencer but I don't think you rock'n'roll
>guys would care so much about that. It still kicks ass.
>
>Super cool plugs, BIG ATTITUDE.
>
>TCB
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>OK, someone here pointed me in the direction of the audio damage plug-ins.
>>www.audiodamage.
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88535 is a reply to message #88533] Wed, 25 July 2007 07:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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but I don't think you rock'n'roll
>>guys would care so much about that. It still kicks ass.
>>
>>Super cool plugs, BIG ATTITUDE.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>OK, someone here pointed me in the direction of the audio damage plug-ins.
>>>www.audiodamage.com. I originally went to look at the DubStation, an analog
>>>delay emulation. I'm happy to report that I now own their flanger, phaser,
>>>delay, plate reverb.
>>>
>>>Really cool stuff.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:46fbae7f$1@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>Um . . . (blush) . . . what does "native" mean in this world of DAWs?
>
> It means DAW's that run around with primitive weapons &
> loincloths.
>
> :D
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88536 is a reply to message #88535] Wed, 25 July 2007 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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/> thanks for the visualIf this does come to pass, I'd lay odds that it absolutely screams on Mac
OSX. Ed and SSC were both Macfolk.

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46fc1578$1@linux...
>
> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>That's a powerful combo Thad(LIVE & SX), but an updated Paris for Mix and
>>Recording Engineers is very much welcomed.
>>
>>Not everyone wanted not need all of the goodies in SX. When it comes time
>>to mix the $$ jobs, Paris & Pro Tools are no#1 in my book. Notice that I
>>did not say editing.. That dubious spot belongs to SX/Nuendo hands down..
>>
>>So, if an updated Paris did not have a midi sequencer, vsti hosting
>>....But
>>HAD: Total Delay coompensation, even more flexible patchbay routing, and
>>proper Asio2 plugin handling..Wow!!
>>
>>
> Yes, but what if the editing shows up as good or better? Hee hee hee ;
> ) It's all speculation. What if Edmund has been working on Logic for
> Apple
> all this time??? Some of those feature concepts look familiar! We could
> speculate all day; )
>
> It's always fun to dream. What would be on your wish list?
>
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm a capitalist, and I have a hard time a product that has been
>>>essentiall
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88537 is a reply to message #88535] Wed, 25 July 2007 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DJ is currently offline  DJ   UNITED STATES
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y
>>>dormant for five years could possibly compete with products that have
>>>been
>>>out there in the marketplace fighting with each other. I'm happy to look
>>>at anything to see if it's a better mousetrap, but I can't imagine I'll
>>prefer
>>>it to my Live/SX combo rig that I'm running now.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>That's harsh.. I'd welcome something new from ID. Paris was still in
>>>>it's
>>>>infacy when they pulled the plug.
>>>>
>>>>I remember Edmund showing me a "working" version of Paris "Native" on
> Mac
>>>>OS back in 2000 NAMM. I mean it was working really good.
>>>>
>>>>So, to have a native VST version of Paris that spealize in Tracking,
>>>>routing,
>>>>mixing would be great. Forget about the midi sequencer, vsti's..
>>>>
>>>>Well??? If he had all that working , then okay..
>>>>I hold any ill feelings to ID what so ever. Only to Creative and EMU.
>
>>>>
>>>>Even more, I stated back in 2000-2002 that EMU made a very bad strategic
>>>>move when it pour most of it's resources into ROmplers. Most of them
>>>>bombed,
>>>>saved for the Planet Phatt module. Now look at them. Can't give away the
>>>>samples for their softsampler. And, to this day, their Audio cards still
>
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88540 is a reply to message #88537] Wed, 25 July 2007 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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al at this point. Here's =
why:

I was working perfectly with 2 mecs loaded to the gills =
and a 442.
I wanted one more mec and bought one from Deej. =
Mistakenly,
I installed it without hiding my default project. Paris =
freaked
and I went through days of turmoil looking to get back to =
where
I was. Paris refused to boot with mecs and no 442 at that =
time.

Next I built another comp to test eds and cables and the =
442. =20
Everything went fine. No probs. This seemed promising.

Next I tried again in the studio with both computers and =
never got a=20
good Paris boot. Every time it wouldn't boot there was a =
Mec attached.
Even the 442 boots were flakey (no patchbay connections). =
I didn't learn=20
anything from this effort.

2 days ago I went to a techs place with the Paris comp, =
Deej's mec
and the 442. We used the mec throughout all testing until =
the end.
Fresh C drive, fresh Paris install.
As soon as the 442 was introduced Paris booted. Likely =
the Deej
mec is faulty but not necessarily.

Today I went back to my original C drive (no default proj) =
and Paris
would not boot with my other Mec that is loaded to the =
gills. I deleted
the Scherzo drivers, reloaded the new ones I just got, =
uninstalled the
subsystem and reloaded it. Once I changed to the 442 the =
system was fine.

Let me rephrase "Paris would not boot" . . . Actually it =
would usually start
up but no audio was available in the patchbay except with =
the 442.

My take is that the introduction of DJ's mec (whether it =
worked or didn't,
let's assume that it worked) was screwy probably by my own =
doing. I
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88541 is a reply to message #88540] Wed, 25 July 2007 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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removed it and later shorted a SCSI 2 cable at the Master =
Mec sometime during that
next week. There was smoke in the power supply area so I =
never tried that
Mec again. My other mec was attached at that time. I now =
think it fried something
in their too.

I am trying DJs and my hopefully unfried mec at another =
studio on Tuesday to confirm
that neither works. If I'm wrong then we're back to =
software.

It ain't over till it's over.
Tom



=20
"Neil" <IOU@OIU.com> wrote in message =
news:46f46d03$1@linux...

In all seriousness - THREE bad MEC's??? What's the real
likelihood of that? Unless all 3 PSU's got hit hard with =
a
voltage spike or something weird like that, is it really
possible that ALL of his MECs went bad?

Neil



"DJ" <animix _ at _ animas _ dot _ net> wrote:
>
>
>Tom,
>
>Do you think the one I sent was bad ? It was working =
fine when I pulled
=3D
>it from the rack.=3D20
>
>I've noticed a few posts recently regarding errors. =
Maybe no more than =3D
>usual, but it seemed like an unusually high number to =
me over the last =3D
>few weeks. Errors I'm not familiar with. It will have =
been 10 years in =3D
>November since Paris shipped. I wonder if the lifespan =
of this hardware
=3D
>is starting to fade. TG for TheSoniq, I guess.
>
>Deej
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
=3D
>news:46f44c75$1@linux...
> 3 bad mecs.
>
> Hmmm?
>
> I'll know for a fact next Tuesday when there's
> time to test a couple on another sy
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88542 is a reply to message #88540] Wed, 25 July 2007 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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stem.
>
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html =20
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Do you think the =
one I sent was =3D
>bad ?=3D20
></FONT><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It was working =
fine when I pulled it
=3D
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><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I've noticed a few =
posts recently =3D
>regarding errors.=3D20
>Maybe no more than usual, but it seemed like an =
unusually high number to
=3D
>me over=3D20
>the last few weeks. Errors I'm not familiar with. It =
will have been =3D
>10=3D20
>years in November since Paris shipped. I wonder if the =
lifespan of this
=3D
>hardware=3D20
>is starting to fade. TG for TheSoniq, I =
guess.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Deej</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88543 is a reply to message #88542] Wed, 25 July 2007 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>3 bad =
mecs.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =
size=3D3D2>Hmmm?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'll know for a =
fact next Tuesday =3D
>when=3D20
> there's</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>time to test a =
couple on another=3D20
> system.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft =
Lockspam to fight spam,
=3D
>and=3D20
> you?<BR><A=3D20
> =3D
=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had a SCSI that did that.. worked =
w/442, but=20
wouldn't with a MEC. I think you probably hit it
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88544 is a reply to message #88543] Wed, 25 July 2007 12:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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right on the head.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:46fb4262@linux">news:46fb4262@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I did find&nbsp;one scsi cable that =
had a couple=20
dead pins out of&nbsp;five cables.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It allowed the 442 to work though. ? =
..&nbsp;=20
Maybe those pins aren't used</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in the Paris pin =
out?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; I=20
chucked it anyway.&nbsp; Could be the source of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>all evil.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:46fa1183@linux">news:46fa1183@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Aaron,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks, I won't know about the =
modules until=20
some new Mecs get delivered here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think I have the four I need =
almost on their=20
way from multiple sources.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It looks like a chip in the master =
section of=20
the scsi scorched mec got hit bad.&nbsp; We're</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>looking for the chip now.&nbsp; The =
other=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mecs may have less of a =
problem.&nbsp; Maybe=20
some DC </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>down the WC line?&nbsp; Just a =
guess.&nbsp;=20
Everything was AC grounded and no polarity shift.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88545 is a reply to message #88542] Wed, 25 July 2007 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We learned there's all kinds of =
protection=20
fuses in line on the master section.&nbsp; It seems 'they'=20
weren't</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fried but the expensive stuff right =
after them=20
was. . .</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Aaron Allen" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:46f9cf56@linux">news:46f9cf56@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll also toss out an edumacated =
guess that=20
only the interface portion got fried and all your MEC cards are =
likely to=20
be ok... holla back on that man. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry, no spare MEC's around =
here, in fact=20
I'm going to be growing my rig again shortly with a few more EDS =
cards=20
:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Say Tom, have you called The =
Soniq about=20
repairing yours... he offers warranty on his work yano =
:)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:46f9621b@linux">news:46f9621b@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Most absolutely hardware.&nbsp; =
3 Mecs down=20
for the count.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No word on the 10 mod
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88546 is a reply to message #88545] Wed, 25 July 2007 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ules that =
were onboard=20
during</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the mishap.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone have a spare mec they =
can part=20
with?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Assamundo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote in =

message <A =
href=3D"news:46f4fa9a@linux">news:46f4fa9a@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll double check =
Aaron.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Continuity is my middle=20
name.</FONT></DIV>
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=
href=3D"mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude">know-spam@not_here.dude</A>&gt;=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dude, if you have 3 toasted =
MEC's I=20
think it VERY likely you had a bad cable that put the hurt =
on them=20
all&nbsp;as you swapped around parts. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:46f472e2@linux">news:46f472e2@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intersted =
people,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know 3 fried mecs is=20
unlikely.&nbsp; It's not confirmed until Tuesday =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>when I'll check the two =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>that might 'still work'.&nbsp; The =
hardware=20
solution</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>is seeming to be the most =
logical at=20
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88547 is a reply to message #88545] Wed, 25 July 2007 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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this point.&nbsp; Here's why:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was working perfectly =
with 2 mecs=20
loaded to the gills and a 442.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wanted one more mec and =
bought one=20
from Deej.&nbsp; Mistakenly,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I installed it without =
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88548 is a reply to message #88547] Wed, 25 July 2007 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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/> hiding my=20
default project.&nbsp; Paris freaked</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and I went through days =
of turmoil=20
looking to get back to where</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was.&nbsp; Paris =
refused to boot=20
with mecs and no 442 at that time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next I built another comp =
to test eds=20
and cables and the 442.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Everything went =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>fine.&nbsp; No probs.&nbsp; This =
seemed=20
promising.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next I tried again in the =
studio with=20
both computers and never got a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good Paris boot.&nbsp; =
Every time it=20
wouldn't boot there was a Mec attached.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Even the 442 boots were =
flakey (no=20
patchbay connections).&nbsp; I didn't learn </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>anything from this=20
effort.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2 days ago I went to a =
techs place=20
with the Paris comp, Deej's mec</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and the 442.&nbsp; We =
used the mec=20
throughout all testing until the end.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fresh C drive, fresh =
Paris=20
install.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As soon as the 442 was =
introduced=20
Paris booted.&nbsp; Likely the Deej</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mec is faulty but not=20
necessarily.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Today I went back to my =
original C=20
drive (no default proj) and Paris</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>would not boot =
with&nbsp;my other Mec=20
that is loaded to the gills. I deleted</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the Scherzo drivers, =
reloaded the new=20
ones I just got, uninstalled the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>subsystem and reloaded =
it.&nbsp; Once=20
I changed to the 442 the system was fine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let me rephrase "Paris =
would not=20
boot" . . .&nbsp; Actually it would usually =
start</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>up but no audio was =
available in the=20
patchbay except with the 442.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My take is that the =
introduction of=20
DJ's mec (whether it worked or didn't,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>let's assume that it =
worked)=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>was screwy probably by =
my own=20
doing.&nbsp; I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>removed it and later =
shorted a SCSI 2=20
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88550 is a reply to message #88548] Wed, 25 July 2007 22:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88610 is a reply to message #88544] Sun, 29 July 2007 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
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t; HI David,
> Is that file size limit also when using Broadcast Wave? BWF size is 4
> gigs. Does PT have a auto split function at all?
> That would be a pretty big limitation of the Venue system I would think.
> Glad none of th native apps have this limitation. :)
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> EK Sound wrote:
>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> I found out that it is PT that has a single file limit of 2GB. That
>> is 2:03:00 at mono 24/96. I was doing a test for a live show coming
>> up that I have to track. I just have to make sure I don't use any
>> stereo tracks and I should be fine.
>>
>> Oh, and here is a lame tidbit of info... this is right from Digi's
>> site...
>>
>> "IDE/ATA & SATA Hard Drives
>>
>> SATA Hard Drives
>>
>> Internal SATA drives are qualified for up to 32 tracks, 24 bit,
>> 44.1/48 kHz with Pro Tools|HD systems on Power Mac G5 models.
>>
>> Dedicated recording drives only, recording to the startup drive is not
>> supported."
>>
>> Seems kinda low, doesn't it... talk about covering your ass!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David.
>>
>> rick wrote:
>>
>>> yes it does but you can slow the tempo prior to recording and will
>>> gain more time.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:07:12 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Does the Mac Pro and OSX have a file size limit? I just tried
>>>> recording 48 tracks at 24/96 on HD but it cut out after 2 hours and
>>>> change with a 1.99GB track file size...
>>>>
>>>> Just curious...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>I thought it said it was capable of streaming 24X24, did I miss something?


"Neil" <IOUIO@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Still only can stream 12 channels at once - kind of a waste for
>a $1700 unit.
>
>
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>HI James,
>>Hope it doesn't suffer from the same performance and drivers problems as
>
>>the other models. The Mic-Pre on the other units sound fricking great
>>and these are supposedly better. Hope software side doesn't kill it.
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>James McCloskey wrote:
>>> http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2007/TC-Electronic-Stud io-Konnekt.html
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>
>>ADK Pro Audio
>>(859) 635-5762
>>www.adkproaudio.com
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>I prefer pop cans for shakers, but glass will give you a different
sound. Rice, or any dried grain / legume will make good shaker fill.

David.

John wrote:
> I'm looking to make some simple pro sounding instruments for percussion type
> sounds. Anyone have ideas or sites that have tips?
>
> I'm probably going to start with some glass pop bottles and something very
> hard to get a brig
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88611 is a reply to message #88550] Sun, 29 July 2007 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ht ping out of. Also, some 16 oz pop bottles with rice
> in them maybe for shakers. Any ideas? I'm looking for great sounds.
>
> ThanksHI David,
Yes very odd PT stuff.
We usually setup our live MADI systems that have 128 ch MADI setup so
that each MADI cards tracks are going to their own drive. Example tracks
1-64 drive 1, tracks 65-128 drive 2. of course divide by 2 for 96k. This
seems to be the overall safe point for the live systems. You have to
factor having the drives start to slow down as they start to get full.
We use Cubase/Nuendo for this stuff so it's easy to set multiple record
paths in a project. We don't have deal with Raid arrays and all that crap.

Chris


EK Sound wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> Yep, that was using BW. This is a ProTools limitation, and I agree a
> surprising one at that. I was quite shocked that Digi says I can only
> record 12 simultaneous tracks onto one drive at 24/96, even though I did
> a 2 hour test recording 48 tracks to one drive! On a recent Sarah
> McLachlan tour, they recorded 60 tracks at 24/96 to two drives over 60
> separate dates without issue.
>
> David.
>
> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>
>> HI David,
>> Is that file size limit also when using Broadcast Wave? BWF size is 4
>> gigs. Does PT have a auto split function at all?
>> That would be a pretty big limitation of the Venue system I would think.
>> Glad none of th native apps have this limitation. :)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> EK Sound wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rick,
>>>
>>> I found out that it is PT that has a single file limit of 2GB. That
>>> is 2:03:00 at mono 24/96. I was doing a test for a live show coming
>>> up that I have to track. I just have to make sure I don't use any
>>> stereo tracks and I should be fine.
>>>
>>> Oh, and here is a lame tidbit of info... this is right from Digi's
>>> site...
>>>
>>> "IDE/ATA & SATA Hard Drives
>>>
>>> SATA Hard Drives
>>>
>>> Internal SATA drives are qualified for up to 32 tracks, 24 bit,
>>> 44.1/48 kHz with Pro Tools|HD systems on Power Mac G5 models.
>>>
>>> Dedicated recording drives only, recording to the startup drive is
>>> not supported."
>>>
>>> Seems kinda low, doesn't it... talk about covering your ass!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> rick wrote:
>>>
>>>> yes it does but you can slow the tempo prior to recording and will
>>>> gain more time.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:07:12 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the Mac Pro and OSX have a file size limit? I just tried
>>>>> recording 48 tracks at 24/96 on HD but it cut out after 2 hours and
>>>>> change with a 1.99GB track file size...
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comeven when i read i still don't get it...just shoot me...

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:17:46 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:

>Well... it started as a logic question... ;-)
>
>David.
>
>rick wrote:
>
>> ya know...i really have to read the posts when i'm more
>> awake...somehow i thought it was a logic question. i think i've been
>> away from cigarettes and booze for too long...must correct soon or
>> i'll become even more me.
>>
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:05:10 -0600, EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Rick,
>>>
>>>I found out that it is PT that has a single file limit of 2GB. That
>>>is 2:03:00 at mono 24/96. I was doing a test for a live show coming
>>>up that I have to track. I just have to make sure I don't use any
>>>stereo tracks and I should be fine.
>>>
>>>Oh, and here is a lame tidbit of info... this is right from Digi's site...
>>>
>>>"IDE/AT
Re: Paris pics - Rented Donkey etc [message #88623 is a reply to message #88530] Mon, 30 July 2007 08:24 Go to previous message
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DoubleClick are allowed to merge, Google will
become
> the overwhelmingly dominant pipeline for all forms of online advertising."
>
> "Now, this merger will almost certainly result in higher profits for the
> operator of the dominant advertising pipeline, but we believe it will be
> bad for everyone else. It will be bad for publishers, it will be bad for
> advertisers and, most importantly, it will be bad for consumers."
>
> In other words, Mr. Smith is suggesting, Google will become like
Microsoft!
>
>
> I hope somebody in Washington remembers the honor roll of companies that
> Microsoft put out of business by leveraging its own monopoly of the
desktop
> operating system.
>
> If they've forgotten, I'd be happy to dig through old trade confirmations
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