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Thu, 24 May 2007 12:21  |
brandon[2]
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ector units on the chips. So is there _any_ advantage to an app
coded
>>>>in 64 bits other than RAM access? Second, considering that only a handful
>>>>of converters (in either direction) can even pas 20 bits of meaningful
>>data,
>>>>why on earth would I _want_ DSP to be done on words larger than 32 bit
>>float?
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>>>>Maybe I'm missing something really really simple here, but I know, uh,
>>a
>>>>little bit about computers, and I just don't understand the hype.
>>>>
>>>>OK, one thing. The 64 bit kernel in Server 2003 deals with multiple cores/processors
>>>>much more gracefully, but even then the developer of the DAW will have
>>to
>>>>be ready to take advantage of that.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
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>>>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>>>>Hi Lamont,
>>>>>
>>>>>The only thing preventing any 64 bit advancement at this point the 3rd
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>>>>>party software and hardware manufacturers to write 64 bit driver and
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>>>>>program support. The host applications need to come first. There is
>>>>>nothing close to a fully 64 bit audio app on any platform. All the
>>>>>plug-ins in Sonar are 32 bit and running in a shell to function in a
>64
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>>>>>bit. All with anywhere from 5 to 10% resource hit. The plug-ins do get
>>>
>>>>>the benefit of address a full 4 gigs but in most case are performing
>no
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>>>>>better and in some cases far worse with this method.
>>>>>Hardware developers right now do not have completely 64 bit coded
>>>>>drivers. In most cases they played with them enough so that they would
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>>>>>install and function in a 64 bit OS and thats about it.
>>>>>ASIO is still 32 bit, VST is still 32 bit. There is supposedly 64 bit
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>>>>>available in the VST spec but not in ASIO AFAIK though no one is doing
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>>>>>anything with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>All of the main host programs run on 64 bit OS es just fine.
>>>>>32 bit apps like Cubendo, Reaper, Sonar, Samplitude all run great on
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>>>>>Windows 64 bit pro and can address up to 4 gigs of ram. But runs no
>>>>>better CPU performance wise than 32 bit XP. Windows 64 pro is basically
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>>>>>just a stripped down Server 2003 64. But its more than likely gonna
>>>>>suffer a quiet death like Windows ME did.
>>>>>All of these except Nuendo will install correctly in Vista 64. but with
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>>>>>the current bottle necks in Vista and the unfinished audio WaveRT driver
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>>>>>spec don't expect very good performance out of it anytime soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sonar 32 bit no better than the 64 bit version ina 64 bit OS. The
>>>>>supposed benefit is you can use address beyond 4 gigs. Of course all
>of
>>>>
>>>>>the VSTi in Sonar and all the
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