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| OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85406] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 01:23  |
Kim
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in Iraq. Would you?
>>>
>>>These "poor kids" have a pretty high level of education for the most part
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>>>LaMont.. I would not send my son anywhere. If he were of age, I would
>>>allow
>>
>>>him to make his own decisions.
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>>>>
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>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:467f2d05$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The US goverment..
>>>>>
>>>>>Is this the same US government that runs the same country that these
>>>>>people
>>>>
>>>>>want to immigrate to because it is so evil?
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>Sorry for the typos..:)
"LaMont&
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85411 is a reply to message #85410] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 01:45  |
JeffH
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insulate themselves
>>>
>>>>into a culturally insular ghetto and try to recreate their old life and
>>>
>>>>society here in a new country. It's a normal thing to do at first, but
>>>>nowadays, there is less emphqasis on becoming "American" and more emphasis
>>>
>>>>on taking what America has to offer while refusing to honor it's existing
>>>
>>>>laws.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, in the case of the mexicans , it's a know fact that even with
>>>>> immagration
>>>>> reform, their numbers would drasticly create another political power
>
>>>>> base.
>>>>> In this case, for now, they (mexican/hispanics) would vote democratic...
>>>>>
>>>>Except for the ones who have accepted the economic opportunities and
>>>>thrived
>>>
>>>>and who mostly vote along conservative lines. As the last of the
>>>>conservatives are purged from the Democratic party, these folks have
>>>>nowhere
>>>
>>>>to go but the Repulican party. Same thing can be said for other ethnic
>>>>groups, including successful, upwardly mobile blacks who have taken off
>>> the
>>>>victim suit that Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders" along
with
>>>
>>>>the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted
>the
>>>
>>>>ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist"
sign
>>> on
>>>>"the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted
>>>>Kennedy
>>>
>>>>and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's.
>>>>
>>>>> Even more important: The REal reason your president and other s want
>an
>>>
>>>>> open
>>>>> boarder is because they know that we need to beuild up our armed forces.
>>>>> Seeing that most americans (Whites, Blacks, Asians) are not volutaring
>>> to
>>>>> enlist atthe numbers the Gove sees fit to maintain a vital fighting
>
>>>>> army..
>>>>>
>>>>> Teedy Kennedy today just spoke on George Steponaplis show stating that
>>>
>>>>> very
>>>>> thing...."The new bill states that in order to become a citizen a
>>>>> imagrant
>>>>> must "first server in the armed" forces..Then, after they have serverd
>>> ,
>>>>> they
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85412 is a reply to message #85411] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 02:05 |
Kim
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become citizens.
>>>>
>>>>This has always been the fast track to citizenship, not just recently.
>>>>Another hing you're missing is that we are not forcing anyone o do
>>>>anything.
>>>
>>>>there are requirements for for becoming a citizen here. The first one
>
>>>>should
>>>
>>>>be to obey the laws and not cross the border illegally.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what they (US Gov) wanted from the start..TTo build up the
armed
>>>>> forces with the ultra poor.. Seeing that that the only ethic group
who
>>> are
>>>>> volutaring they services these days are your poor to middle poor
>>>>> whites..
>>>>> You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited
in
>>> the
>>>>> Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
>>>
>>>>> sons
>>>>> to war.. No different today..
>>>>> I would not send my son(s) to war in Iraq. Would you?
>>>>
>>>>These "poor kids" have a pretty high level of education for the most
part
>>>
>>>>LaMont.. I would not send my son anywhere. If he were of age, I would
>
>>>>allow
>>>
>>>>him to make his own decisions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:467f2d05$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The US goverment..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is this the same US government that runs the same country that these
>>>>>>people
>>>>>
>>>>>>want to immigrate to because it is so evil?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>Lamont, I live every day as a minority... where I live, the
population is about 70% Hispanic. So since I can (and do) live
as a minority, I guess based on your criteria I'm qualified to
chime in:
1.) If you're poor in this country, you get free healthcare...
period. Yeah it sucks that you have to sit in an ER waiting
room to get it, but said poor person also doens't get $5k's
worth of bills like us "rich" people do when their daughter has
to go in for an appendectomy, or tonsilectomy, or knee surgery
from a volleyball injury (yeah it's one of those sports
us "rich" people get their girls into in school - you know, the
ones where us "rich" people have to pay for uniforms & separate
sports insurance & stuff, while the "poor" people get those fees
waived... another way of saying "you 'rich' people are paying
for the poor people's kid's uniforms, too" What - you think the
school district absorbed those costs? LOL!!!). So even
though I've been fortunate enough to have decent insurance,
I've also paid into a LOT of deductible's & "20% patient
portions" over the years, too. Is it better than no insurance
at all? Yes, I will admit that it is. Is it cheaper than being
able to get free healthcare if you go into an ER as a person
who has no ability to pay? FUCK No!
This has no boundary - you can be black, white, asian,
hispanic, paisley... just because you cannot pay, a hospital
cannot deny you essential care.
2.1) I know of no "United White Persons College Fund", or
"Chevron White Persons College Scholarship Program", or any
type of government or corporate charitable tuition-related
assistance available to anyone other than a.) those that can
demonstrate true need, and b.) Those for African-Americans &
Hispanics & maybe a scant few for Asians.
2.2) I also know of NO government-mandated programs that audit
businesses to make sure they have an adequate amount of white
folk working for them. This all means that the educational &
employment opportunities for minorities are vastly superior
to those available to "non-minorities" (essentially: "anyone
who is white"). So why are you playing the race card?
And don't play the "400 years of opression!" thing at me,
either, because if it wasn't for your own brethren in the Ivory
Coast kidnapping & selling your ancestors off to whomever
wanted to buy them, there wouldn't have been a slave trade to
begin with.
Man - really getting tired of being blamed for every fucking
evil in the western hemisphere!!!
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85415 is a reply to message #85406] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 02:52 |
rick
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>>>do harm.
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>>>DC
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>LaMont
Just so you know, as far as I know I am no relation of the Hoover in you
writing below.
:-)
Jeff
wrote:
> Hi DJ,
> You wrote:
> I think that in the white community there is a mindset that for 40 years
> the same level of education and opportunity has been offered to minorities
> so that they can learn "the system" because the "system" is what works for
> the whites. You can argue that this is not correct and you would be right
> to some degree, but a big part of why is that children in urban public schools
> often aren't expected to perform at exceptional levels and a welfare system
> has contributed to the utter destruction of the "family unit". this seems
> to have happened to urban blacks in disproportionate numbers and that, my
> friend, is in large part due to Ted Kennedy and "his boys". You don't see
> inner sity youth invited for a romp on the lwan at Hyannis do you? You didn't
> see chelsea Clinton attending public schools in DC, did you?"
>
> I see your point: But, I think what's missing, especially today, with the
> urban hip-hop community, is that they saw My generation go thru the proper
> process of doing what "the system" deemed necessary that a peron o do to
> get ahead in America.. Well, they saw get our Degrees but, they also saw
> and heard the frustrations that we encountered wih corporate america..
>
> Subsusquentaliy, they (GenX & now Gen Now)african americans do no really
> buy into the so-called system. They view it as rigged. More about "who you
> know", then What you know..They see corporate america as the
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85416 is a reply to message #85406] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 03:10 |
neil[1]
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ultimate "Set
> Aside" program there is. Set asides not for them , but for others..
>
> Who can blame them? I have 2 in college now, with my son(U of M) graduating
> next spring. My Daughter is a sophmore @ Columbia. It ahs been very dificault
> for thier mom and me to convience them that gettign their degrees is very
> good choice. They have a real disdain for corporate america seeing wha heir
> parens have gone thru in the past 24 years..
>
> I said all that to say. You have guys like Ice-cube, Dr Dre, who from good
> homes, but did not want to go thru mainstram way that they saw their parents
> go thru.
> Blacks in america no longer want to second -class citizens. But, they do
> not trust or want to play the rigged(america) game either..
> All in all, right now, I would say that we, the African Americns are lost.
> Searching for and identity .Because everytime we have tried to "assimulate"
> we were not welcomed..
>
> So, you the gov ask us to go to war, there is almost a 95 percent resounding
> answer of no. Why?
>
> -We, african americans have fought in every major war since this country
> inception, and still enountered bigotry, lynchings, muders, hanging, beatings...etc..
>
> See, in each war, we were promised full cititenship and freedom, and simple
> equall american liberties.. We're tlaking from the 1700's to 1964 passage
> of the civil rights act.
>
> Then, lets not even talk about the Bussing problems that once again caused
> a wide gap in the education btw whites and blacks..
>
> Then the Cia/FBI under hoover decides place to the Black american race under
> survalence when it became evident that we would rather die off than to be
> subjected to the treatment we getting from america.. Then the CIA dispersed
> drugs...Guns....And started these gange called Crips and Bloods..
>
> CIA...Introduce "crack in to the black community in 1984..Then, started imprisioning
> the very Drug Junkies they got hooked in the first place.. Get them hook
> on drugs...Which removes the fathers from the home...No male role models....Single
> family homes...Welfare.......You start getting a clearer picture that's not
> widely told no taught..Then by the 80's again the Gov passed the 1 crack
> gram =25-30 years, 1 pound of cocaine= 4years tops...
>
> It's easy to see that the junkie (Black) in most cases will be caught with
> the 1 gram and the person (usually) white with pound is not punished as hard..So,
> you almost have an entire generation in prisoned from the 80's who are serving
> 25-30 years for possesion of 1 gram of crack!! Is i a coesidence that most
> are Black? So, then form the 80's we have black sons and daughters fatherless
> whcih equals ruderless, with only the young mom to care for
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85418 is a reply to message #85416] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 03:35 |
Kim
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t;>
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>>>Again, I would not expecpt you to under stand that, not being Black..
>>>My sister and I come from humble beginnings. Long story short, we are
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> what
>
>>>you would call up-wardly mobile African Americans..Highly educated(can't
>>>type-smile) and make a really good living..
>>
>>I believe you. 99% of the folks I know and hang with who happen to be in
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> the
>
>>minority racial profile are of similar background. They have an level of
>
>
>>acumen that has allowed them to see past the BS..
>>
>>
>>>I've been in coporate america since 1984 and nothing has changed for
>>>Blacks
>>>since.. Yes, you can find some of us on the Ball fields..But, as a hiring
>>>manager, the numbers just are not there. There is a 'Glass" stone cieling
>>>for us in corporate america.. I could go on andon.. But, the Bottom line
>>>is this, the media today would even try to discredit Martin Luther King
>
> Jr
>
>>>if he were alive today. Saying that he's a Poverty pimp..Some people
>>>really
>>>do ned a helping hand.
>>
>>I agree with you again, but that is changing, I do see distrust and
>>resentment among whites when someone of racial minority is appointed to
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> an
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>>administrative position where they have hire/fire capabilities over whites.
>
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>>I also see this when blacks have hire/fire power over hispanics and vice
>
>
>>versa. I believe that one reason for this is, based on my experience, is
>
>
>>that those in power tend to surround themselves with people whom they
>>consider to be culturally simpatico.
>>
>>
>>>Whites say..Go out and get a job Black man..Well, If the Job(s) are in
>
> a
>
>>>White Suburb, well, that Black man will be harrassed to no end by the
>
>
>>>local
>>>Police ,making it hard just to pick up an application..
>>
>>I think that in the white community there is a mindset that for 40 years
>
> the
>
>>same level of education and opportunity has been offered to minorities so
>
>
>>that they can learn "the system" because the "system" is what works for
>
> the
>
>>whites. You can argue that this is not correct and you would be right to
>
>
>>some degree, but a big part of why is that children in urban public schools
>
>
>>often aren't expected to perform at exceptional levels and a welfare system
>
>
>>has contributed to the utter destruction of the "family unit". this seems
>
> to
>
>>have happened to urban blacks in disproportionate numbers and that, my
>>friend, is in large part due to Ted Kennedy and "his boys". You don't see
>
>
>>inner sity youth invited for a romp on the lwan at Hyannis do you? You
>>didn't see chelsea Clinton attending public schools in DC, did you?
>>
>>Part of the system has been admitedly culturally unfriendly to those who
>
> do
>
>>not play by it's rules. Those rules demand conformity. Even non-conformist
>
>
>>whites are left on the outside, but not to the degree that the racial
>>minorities are. However, if someone who is of racial minority proves
>>themself within this crucible, they gain respece and "equality".
>>Why???....because they are considered part of the solution.
>>
>>
>>>You all seem to think that after the turbulent 60's (civil rights) that
>
>
>>>things
>>>were alright for the Blacks.. They were not.. Just like they were not
>
>
>>>after
>>>the Ciivil War...The KKK and other hate groups re-surfaced just like after
>>>the Civil war.. Why??
>>
>>"We all" don't think that at all. I have lived in situations where I was
>
> in
>
>>the racial minority and refused to accept "the system" that worked for those
>
>
>>of the majority and I was treated like shit and thrown in jail. I know a
>
> bit
>
>>about this myself.
>>
>>>Is there still racism in America??
>>
>>Yes....and it's not just practiced by whites.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Deej
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85421 is a reply to message #85411] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 04:43 |
John
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/>
>>>
>>>>society here in a new country. It's a normal thing to do at first, but
>>>>nowadays, there is less emphqasis on becoming "American" and more emphasis
>>>
>>>>on taking what America has to offer while refusing to honor it's existing
>>>
>>>>laws.
>>>>
>>>>>Now, in the case of the mexicans , it's a know fact that even with
>>>>>immagration
>>>>>reform, their numbers would drasticly create another political power
>
>
>>>>>base.
>>>>>In this case, for now, they (mexican/hispanics) would vote democratic...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Except for the ones who have accepted the economic opportunities and
>>>>thrived
>>>
>>>>and who mostly vote along conservative lines. As the last of the
>>>>conservatives are purged from the Democratic party, these folks have
>>>>nowhere
>>>
>>>>to go but the Repulican party. Same thing can be said for other ethnic
>>>>groups, including successful, upwardly mobile blacks who have taken off
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>victim suit that Jessie Jackson, Sharpton and other "leaders" along with
>>>
>>>>the white liberal power structure handed them in the 70's and accepted
>
> the
>
>>>>ecomonic model and become successful. If you want to hang a "racist" sign
>>>
>>>on
>>>
>>>>"the government" you should hang it squarely around the neck of Ted
>>>>Kennedy
>>>
>>>>and his "boys" who created the welfare system back in the 60's and 70's.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Even more important: The REal reason your president and other s want
>
> an
>
>>>>>open
>>>>>boarder is because they know that we need to beuild up our armed forces.
>>>>>Seeing that most americans (Whites, Blacks, Asians) are not volutaring
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>enlist atthe numbers the Gove sees fit to maintain a vital fighting
>
>
>>>>>army..
>>>>>
>>>>>Teedy Kennedy today just spoke on George Steponaplis show stating that
>>>
>>>>>very
>>>>>thing...."The new bill states that in order to become a citizen a
>>>>>imagrant
>>>>>must "first server in the armed" forces..Then, after they have serverd
>>>
>>>,
>>>
>>>>>they become citizens.
>>>>
>>>>This has always been the fast track to citizenship, not just recently.
>>>>Another hing you're missing is that we are not forcing anyone o do
>>>>anything.
>>>
>>>>there are requirements for for becoming a citizen here. The first one
>
>
>>>>should
>>>
>>>>be to obey the laws and not cross the border illegally.
>>>>
>>>>>This is what they (US Gov) wanted from the start..TTo build up the armed
>>>>>forces with the ultra poor.. Seeing th
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85422 is a reply to message #85406] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 06:38 |
Sarah
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at that the only ethic group who
>>>
>>>are
>>>
>>>>>volutaring they services these days are your poor to middle poor
>>>>>whites..
>>>>>You know and I know, how the poor whites and blacks were exploited in
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>Veitam war. With middle class and upper middle where not sending their
>>>
>>>>>sons
>>>>>to war.. No different today..
>>>>>I would not send my son(s) to war in Iraq. Would you?
>>>>
>>>>These "poor kids" have a pretty high level of education for the most part
>>>
>>>>LaMont.. I would not send my son anywhere. If he were of age, I would
>
>
>>>>allow
>>>
>>>>him to make his own decisions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:467f2d05$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The US goverment..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is this the same US government that runs the same country that these
>>>>>>people
>>>>>
>>>>>>want to immigrate to because it is so evil?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>Hey Neil, I would only say this about the Ivory coast statements:
It did not start with tribal leaders "outing' selling of slave to the slave
traders. Rather, it was an the "Industry" or better, a need for the cheap
labor that prompted the the slave trade..
Those running the slave trade: were the Arabs, Jews, Spaniards..
Now, if you tired of being blamed for as you say "every thing wrong with
western blah blah"....hen I offer you this:
How do you think Blacks feel? It's 2007 and racism still exist in this nation
of ours. You say you're tire!! ha Lol!!.. You don;t know the meaning of tired...
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Lamont, I live every day as a minority... where I live, the
>population is about 70% Hispanic. So since I can (and do) live
>as a minority, I guess based on your criteria I'm qualified to
>chime in:
>
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85426 is a reply to message #85410] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 08:55 |
chuck duffy
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the right to say that to you??? Well, let me thank
>>you DC for allowing me to say that you're an asshole who comes off like
>an
>>Fox-News Network talking point head..
>>
>>Fuck you!! And your thinking that every person born in this country thinks
>>that it's a Mecca of sorts..
>>Live a year hell, eben moth as an Minority , African American , then you
>>tell me something. But, since you cannot, just shut the Fuck up about things
>>you don't know ...
>>
>>
>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>DC, you are he one who is insane. I thank God for removing our people
from
>>>the bondage os Slavery.. That's it..
>>>Do you understand ..You studid Mother fucker..!!!
>>>
>>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>"So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and
>>>hiring
>>>>>practices?
>>>>
>>>>For your good life. For the chance to espouse ideas others
>>>>may find insane, yet remain civil with them.
>>>>
>>>>For the chance to help others achieve as you have.
>>>>
>>>>In the final analysis, if we are not thankful for our blessings
>>>>we must lose them...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done
a
>>great
>>>>>deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them
>>for
>>>>>standing up for us..
>>>>
>>>>Yes, they occasionally do good. Much more often, they
>>>>do harm.
>>>>
>>>>DC
>>>>
>>>
>>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:4681f4b3$1@linux...
>
> DC, you are he one who is insane. I thank God for removing our people from
> the bondage os Slavery.. That's it..
> Do you understand ..You studid ...........
Alllright. I'm done with this thread. I c
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85428 is a reply to message #85406] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 09:06 |
Deej [4]
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..." target="_blank">1@linux...
>
> Well, it seems that Waves is not laying around taking it on the chin from
> UAD.
>
> http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3565as to the slavery issue whether or not outside forces entered the
picture, people have been more than willing to enslave others and even
their own. one only has to look around the world today and see that
nothing has changed about slavery. while it may be distasteful for
one to accepts what ones own can and will do for profit it does not
change the fact that they did and did so willingly.
On 27 Jun 2007 17:12:13 +1000, "LaMont" <jjdpr@ameritech.ne> wrote:
>
>Hey Neil, I would only say this about the Ivory coast statements:
>It did not start with tribal leaders "outing' selling of slave to the slave
>traders. Rather, it was an the "Industry" or better, a need for the cheap
>labor that prompted the the slave trade..
>
>Those running the slave trade: were the Arabs, Jews, Spaniards..
>
>Now, if you tired of being blamed for as you say "every thing wrong with
>western blah blah"....hen I offer you this:
>
>How do you think Blacks feel? It's 2007 and racism still exist in this nation
>of ours. You say you're tire!! ha Lol!!.. You don;t know the meaning of tired...
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>>Lamont, I live every day as a minority... where I live, the
>>population is about 70% Hispanic. So since I can (and do) live
>>as a minority, I guess based on your criteria I'm qualified to
>>chime in:
>>
>>1.) If you're poor in this country, you get free healthcare...
>>period. Yeah it sucks that you have to sit in an ER waiting
>>room to get it, but said poor person also doens't get $5k's
>>worth of bills like us "rich" people do when their daughter has
>>to go in for an appendectomy, or tonsilectomy, or knee surgery
>>from a volleyball injury (yeah it's one of those sports
>>us "rich" people get their girls into in school - you know, the
>>ones where us "rich" people have to pay for uniforms & separate
>>sports insurance & stuff, while the "poor" people get those fees
>>waived... another way of saying "you 'rich' people are paying
>>for the poor people's kid's uniforms, too" What - you think the
>>school district absorbed those costs? LOL!!!). So even
>>though I've been fortunate enough to have decent insurance,
>>I've also paid into a LOT of deductible's & "20% patient
>>portions" over the years, too. Is it better than no insurance
>>at all? Yes, I will admit that it is. Is it cheaper than being
>>able to get free healthcare if you go into an ER as a person
>>who has no ability to pay? FUCK No!
>>This has no boundary - you can be black, white, asian,
>>hispanic, paisley... just because you cannot pay, a hospital
>>cannot deny you essential care.
>>
>>2.1) I know of no "United White Per
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85431 is a reply to message #85416] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 10:04 |
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f="mailto:jjdpro@ameritech.net" target="_blank">jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and
>>>>hiring
>>>>>>practices?
>>>>>
>>>>>For your good life. For the chance to espouse ideas others
>>>>>may find insane, yet remain civil with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>For the chance to help others achieve as you have.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the final analysis, if we are not thankful for our blessings
>>>>>we must lose them...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done
>a
>>>great
>>>>>>deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them
>>>for
>>>>>>standing up for us..
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, they occasionally do good. Much more often, they
>>>>>do harm.
>>>>>
>>>>>DC
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>>>
>>Looks like fun but it's $1000 and us Mac guys can't use it w/ Paris.
Gantt
"John " <tab@email.com> wrote:
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>Well, it seems that Waves is not laying around taking it on the chin from
>UAD.
>
>http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3565Small but cool! Too bad we can't make it work w/ Paris...
Gantt
Graham Duncan <graham@grahamduncan.com> wrote:
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>http://www.jazzmutant.com/dexter_introduction.phpYou call me names...
That means you are out of ideas and cannot respond in any
other way.
I feel sorry for you.
DC
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>DC, you are he one who is insane. I thank God for removing our people from
>the bondage os Slavery.. That's it..
>Do you understand ..You studid Mother fucker..!!!
>
>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>"So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>>>
>>>Are you kidding?? What for? For institutional racism? Unfair labor and
>hiring
>>>practices?
>>
>>For your good life. For the chance to espouse ideas others
>>may find insane, yet remain civil with them.
>>
>>For the chance to help others achieve as you have.
>>
>>In the final analysis, if we are not thankful for our blessings
>>we must lose them...
>>
>>
>&g
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85432 is a reply to message #85428] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 11:13 |
dc[3]
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t;>You call them poverty pimps (Jackson & Sharpton) but,they have done a
great
>>>deal for the African maerican community and I will always Thanks them
for
>>>standing up for us..
>>
>>Yes, they occasionally do good. Much more often, they
>>do harm.
>>
>>DC
>>
>I know more than you can imagine...
Look what you turn into when someone disagrees with you!
Look in the mirror, man, if you want someone to blame.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
DC
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>Even more...TO DC.. You're a fucking moron. I'm a moron for engaging in
>a dialog with you and your insane post. Get a life!! You idot!!!
>You can take you and all of your insane so-called conservative viewpionts
>and stick them up your ass!!!
>
>Should I thank you for the right to say that to you??? Well, let me thank
>you DC for allowing me to say that you're an asshole who comes off like
an
>Fox-News Network talking point head..
>
>Fuck you!! And your thinking that every person born in this country thinks
>that it's a Mecca of sorts..
>Live a year hell, eben moth as an Minority , African American , then you
>tell me something. But, since you cannot, just shut the Fuck up about things
>you don't know ...
>
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
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>>DC, you are he one who is insane. I thank God for removing our people from
>>the bondage os Slavery.. That's it..
>>Do you understand ..You studid Mother fucker..!!!
>>
>>"DC" <dc@spammersinhell.com> wrote:
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>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"So just ONCE dammit, say thank you America. Can you do it?"
>>>>
>>>>Are you kidding?? What for? For instituti
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85435 is a reply to message #85422] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 13:39 |
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tiptoe around you, or get real quiet as soon as you
> say certain words and bring up certain subjects, or those who
> are willing to tell you the truth as they see it?
>
> Who do you think regards you as an equal and who regards you
> as still a victim? What will you forever be in their eyes?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> But I better shut the f*ck up now huh?
>
> DC
>Thanks guys,
Are you terminated with a BNC "T" on the input of the MEC? see attached, or
is your termination on the MEC clock out because it is electrically the same
point?
Wayne
I used to own Waves. Then when win XP came out, they tried to ding me for
$300.00 to upgrade my software. I don't use Waves any more and will NEVER
get involved with their ridiculous WUP.
"John " <tab@email.com> wrote in message news:46820ef2$1@linux...
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> Well, it seems that Waves is not laying around taking it on the chin from
> UAD.
>
> http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=3565Terminate the output of the MEC... just to be sure.
David.
Wayne Carson wrote:
> Thanks guys,
>
> Are you terminated with a BNC "T" on the input of the MEC? see attached, or
> is your termination on the MEC clock out because it is electrically the same
> point?
> Wayne
>
>
>
>It's friggin hot here. Our place sits literally at the base of the San Juan
mountains so it achieves a decent balance of temperatures....90's during the
day and 50's at night.. 10 minutes to the north and you're at 9000+ feet and
it's about 60 degrees during the heat of the day. 20 minutes to the south
and you're in the high desert with no humidity,.wind blowing dust devils
around and temperatures of 100+ degrees. You have to be careful. It's not
like the heat you experience in the coastal areas where you sweat. Here' you
just dry up before you're even aware that it's happening and when you start
getting dizzy for no apparent reason, you'd better have some water handy.
Most of my time recently has been "desert time". I feel like a crispy
critter when I get home. There isn't enough skin moisturizer or water on
earth to alleviate this feeling at this time of year and the last thing I
feel like doing is working in the studio. I'm spent and have been going to
bed around 9:30 PM so I can get up around 5:00 AM and head down to the area
where I've been working before the winds kick up and suck the life out of
me. I like to get home early afternoon. Hopefully the monsoon season will
start around the middle of July. It's been pretty predictable/consistent the
last couple of years.I spent summers in Boulder, and I remember that weird 'I'm dehydrated but
not sweating' thing.
Not a problem in CT right now. It's pushing 90 with dew points above 70,
or in other words kind of like walking though hot, sticky goop. And I have
an office softball game tonight. Whoo hooo!
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>It's friggin hot here. Our place sits literally at the base of the San Juan
>mountains so it achieves a decent balance of temperatures....90's during
the
>day and 50's at night.. 10 minutes to the north and you're at 9000+ feet
and
>it's about 60 degrees during the heat of the day. 20 minutes to the south
>and you're in the high desert with no humidity,.wind blowing dust devils
>
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85436 is a reply to message #85426] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 13:40 |
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around and temperatures of 100+ degrees. You have to be careful. It's not
>like the heat you experience in the coastal areas where you sweat. Here'
you
>just dry up before you're even aware that it's happening and when you start
>getting dizzy for no apparent reason, you'd better have some water handy.
>Most of my time recently has been "desert time". I feel like a crispy
>critter when I get home. There isn't enough skin moisturizer or water on
>earth to alleviate this feeling at this time of year and the last thing
I
>feel like doing is working in the studio. I'm spent and have been going
to
>bed around 9:30 PM so I can get up around 5:00 AM and head down to the area
>where I've been working before the winds kick up and suck the life out of
>me. I like to get home early afternoon. Hopefully the monsoon season will
>start around the middle of July. It's been pretty predictable/consistent
the
>last couple of years.
>
>
>
>Hey all,
My boss's kid spilled something into his Mac. I had put an XP partition on
it for him to play games. That boots fine, the OS X partition does not. It
looks to me like a boot loader issue, because I can select the OS X partition
as the boot device but it chunks and then boots into XP anyway. I'd like
to mount the OS X partition to back up data before sending it to Apple to
get worked on. Can I mount that partition in XP? If so, how?
TCByou're NOT going to forget your water again this year are you??????
this is the one thing "if you don't get it" you really will die thing.
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:13:54 -0600, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>It's friggin hot here. Our place sits literally at the base of the San Juan
>mountains so it achieves a decent balance of temperatures....90's during the
>day and 50's at night.. 10 minutes to the north and you're at 9000+ feet and
>it's about 60 degrees during the heat of the day. 20 minutes to the south
>and you're in the high desert with no humidity,.wind blowing dust devils
>around and temperatures of 100+ degrees. You have to be careful. It's not
>like the heat you experience in the coastal areas where you sweat. Here' you
>just dry up before you're even aware that it's happening and when you start
>getting dizzy for no apparent reason, you'd better have some water handy.
>Most of my time recently has been "desert time". I feel like a crispy
>critter when I get home. There isn't enough skin moisturizer or water on
>earth to alleviate this feeling at this time of year and the last thing I
>feel like doing is working in the studio. I'm spent and have been going to
>bed around 9:30 PM so I can get up around 5:00 AM and head down to the area
>where I've been working before the winds kick up and suck the life out of
>me. I like to get home early afternoon. Hopefully the monsoon season will
>start around the middle of July. It's been pretty predictable/consistent the
>last couple of years.
>
>
>try creating another user.
On
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| Re: OK maybe I'm just having a sook... [message #85438 is a reply to message #85428] |
Sun, 27 May 2007 13:53 |
Kim
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you have a core2duo or quad you should run it.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=936357
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comA friend of mine uses one of these and I had a little time on it a while
back and thought it was at least "OK" and I see used ones fetch "almost new"
prices in the rare event that they become available on EBay so when given
the opportunity to trade a piece of gear that was little used for one of
these, I bit.
http://www.aybg12.dsl.pipex.com/
I played around with it some last night. I must say that I'm impressed. Very
transparent Class "A" pre with a smooth/transparent compressor and expander.
It's got up to 70dB of gain so it's a nice choice for old ribbon mics and
the expander works in such a natural way that, if tweaked properly, you can
basically gate the self-noise right out of a mic circuit without chatter or
unnatural decay characteristic.
Also, the top of this unit could be used as a hot plate for eggs ' hash
browns. Even with the ventilation holes in the top, depending on what was
racked above it, I might want more than 1U rack space above. It could
probably heat a small apartment in the winter.
I give this piece a thumbs up so far.
DeejDavid,
Do you mean terminate both the input with a "T" and the output?
Wayne
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46828c00$1@linux...
> Terminate the output of the MEC... just to be sure.
>
> David.
>
> Wayne Carson wrote:
>> Thanks guys,
>>
>> Are you terminated with a BNC "T" on the input of the MEC? see attached,
>> or
>> is your termination on the MEC clock out because it is electrically the
>> same point?
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>>http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive6/
This works for XP SPII with no problems. We have it. We use it. there is
another putilty program that allows PC's to read Mac discs.....I can't
remember the name right off the top of my head. Don't go there. We did. It
sucks so bad that the tech support for that product actually recommended us
to use Macdrive 6. We are using it to read an OS 9.2.2 disk.
Good luck.
Deej
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468291a5$1@linux...
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> Hey all,
>
> My boss's kid spilled something into his Mac. I had put an XP partition on
> it for him to play games. That boots fine, the OS X partition does not. It
> looks to me like a boot loader issue, because I can select the OS X
> partition
> as the boot device but it chunks and then boots into XP anyway. I'd like
> to mount the OS X partition to back up data before sending it to Apple to
> get worked on. Can I mount that partition in XP? If so, how?
>
> TCBThanks Chris. Ack. I guess I have to install SP2 now. Backup time!
Graham
Chris Ludwig wrote:
> For any Paris folks using the new Intel Core2 dual or quad core or the
> new Xeon dual or quads.
>
> New hot fix for the current line or dual and quad core Intel CPUs.
>
> if you have a core2duo or quad you should run it.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=936357Is there a way to do this offline? My DAW isn't connected to the
internet...
GrahamHmmm....it seems they have upgraded to an XP specific version now:
http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive/
This is what I'd use. You might want to call their tech support staff and
explain your problem. they were very good to work with.
Deej
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46829fb3@linux...
> http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive6/
>
> This works for XP SPII with no problems. We have it. We use it. there is
> another putilty program that allows PC's to read Mac discs.....I can't
> remember the name right off the top of my head. Don't go there. We did.
> It sucks so bad that the tech support for that product actually
> recommended us to use Macdrive 6. We are using it to read an OS 9.2.2
> disk.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Deej
>
>
>
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:468291a5$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> My boss's kid spilled something into his Mac. I had put an XP partition
>> on
>> it for him to play games. That boots fine, the OS X partition does not.
>> It
>> looks to me like a boot loader issue, because I can select the OS X
>> partition
>> as the boot device but it chunks and then boots into XP anyway. I'd
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Sun, 27 May 2007 13:56 |
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like
>> to mount the OS X partition to back up data before sending it to Apple to
>> get worked on. Can I mount that partition in XP? If so, how?
>>
>> TCB
>
>Yeah, same here - 15 days straight w/rain. It's cloudy and cool. I don't
mind at all......
-Carl
"wireline" <kennospam@wirelinestudio.com> wrote in message
news:46829755$1@linux...
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> We are 'suffering' our wettest and coolest summer in anyone's
memory...folks
> are complaining about it ALWAYS being so muggy and getting so much rain.
>
> Deej, sounds like you live in an ideal spot..start the coffee pot, I'll be
> up there in a couple hours...
>
> :)No, just the output. I have never been a fan of using T's in word
clock or video cabling.
David.
Wayne Carson wrote:
> David,
>
> Do you mean terminate both the input with a "T" and the output?
> Wayne
>
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46828c00$1@linux...
>
>>Terminate the output of the MEC... just to be sure.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Wayne Carson wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks guys,
>>>
>>>Are you terminated with a BNC "T" on the input of the MEC? see attached,
>>>or
>>>is your termination on the MEC clock out because it is electrically the
>>>same point?
>>>Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>Hi group,
I picked up a 75 ohm termination from Kiesub electronics and I put a meter
to it. It only reads 1 ohm. I thought it was a resister load termination
but is it possible that it is a inductive or capacitive load and therefore
can not be accurately testing with an ohm meter?
WayneJust run a straight feed from the BB to the MEC input. You don't need a "T"
for the MEC input. Use a 75ohm terminator cap on the MEC out.
Deej
"Wayne Carson" <carson_wayne@msn.com> wrote in message
news:46829d99@linux...
> David,
>
> Do you mean terminate both the input with a "T" and the output?
> Wayne
>
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:46828c00$1@linux...
>> Terminate the output of the MEC... just to be sure.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Wayne Carson wrote:
>>> Thanks guys,
>>>
>>&g
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Sun, 27 May 2007 14:20 |
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/a>
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>> Sadly, the optical drive is hosed as well. Already tried that.
>>
>> Why can't the just write a freaking driver for the file system?
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> Somewhere there exists MSWindows software that can read a mac disk.
>>> Don't know the name off hand but if you search you'll find it. Buy it,
>>> install it and see if you can read the OSX partition from XP.
>>>
>>> But first I'd try booting off of the OSX system CD and see if you can
>>> see the internal OSX partition. If so you may be able to copy files off
>>
>>> of it directly.
>>>
>>> Or get Disk Warrior, boot OSX off of its CD and use the included tools
>>> to rescue the OSX partition and back it up to an external drive.
>>>
>>> Or take it to an Apple store genius bar along with your external drive,
>>
>>> ask nicely and they'll run Disk Warrior and do the backup for you.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> rick wrote:
>>>> try creating another user.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Jun 2007 02:34:45 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> My boss's kid spilled something into his Mac. I had put an XP partition
>> on
>>>>> it for him to play games. That boots fine, the OS X partition does
not.
>> It
>>>>> looks to me like a boot loader issue, because I can select the OS X
partition
>>>>> as the boot device but it chunks and then boots into XP anyway. I'd
like
>>>>> to mount the OS X partition to back up data before sending it to Apple
>> to
>>>>> get worked on. Can I mount that partition in XP? If so, how?
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>Glad you're up and running. File the other suggestions away for a rainy
day...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> Another fine idea to be sure, but this assumes I have a 'good Mac' which naturally
> I don't. But thanks for trying, I bought the Mac Drive software and it seems
> to be working now.
>
> TCB
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> No problem, here's another nifty alternative:
>>
>> Connect the hosed mac (H) to a good mac (G) via firewire.
>>
>> Start G if it's not already running. Then start H while holding down the
>
>> T key. This will put it into firewire target disk mode and the drives on
>
>> H will appear on the desktop of G.
>>
>> Copy your data, run Disk Warrior, whatever you need.
>>
>> Detailed instru
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Mon, 28 May 2007 00:13 |
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rom ebay.
In fact, I think I have one of these and will have to dig through the garage.
Bought it long time ago and never found a use for it.
Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions.... ~ Ed
Bill L <bill@billlorentzen.com> wrote:
>I have no idea who makes them, but passive mixers can do what you want
>and are very small and cheap and clean and you don't have to plug them
>into the wall = better for the environment. ;-)
>
>Ed wrote:
>> Hey all! What are you (or a band you know) doing to handle multiple keyboards?
>> I currently am running 4 separate lines into Paris for 2 separate keybaords,
>> but I want to reduce that to 2 (stereo) AND without spending an arm and
a
>> leg. I see the cheap Behringer mixer, but they have TOO much stuff on
them
>> and I am worried about noise. I look though the online music stores and
>> I can't seem to find anything that I am looking for... and I am not sure
>> what I am looking for exactly. I'd like it to have 4 1/4" inputs from
the
>> keyboards, able to mix those 4 in a stereo and have both a XLR and 1/4"
stereo
>> output, be small enough to mount on a keyboard stand.. and be cute too!
>> lol.
>>
>> Any suggestions?Intel makes M$oft look like a highly more, honestly competitive company.
What's scary is that 'userland' code should be able to exploit some of these.
Bad bad bad.
TCB
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Thad,
> Excellent thanks been looking for info on what the "problem" . The sad
>part is that AMD has had very few of these type of design problems in
>their history.
>But now are barely afloat because they don't rush stuff out. Intel made
>a decided effort to bring down AMD by pushing out their dual-core
>technology earlier and now selling their cpus at what I bet is a lose to
>force AMD to drop their more. Sense AMD is 8 times smaller than Intel it
>is easy for Intel to loose some money
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