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excelav
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>
>>Is there a list of plugin latencies somewhere?
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Hi,
> would like to note here that after working a coupkle of days with faderworks
>I don't know how could I work (mix) before in Paris !
>Amazing..
>I have put 64 instances along 4 eds cards as a standard preset.
>I group all the instruments accordingly, drums, perc, ac.guitars, el.guitars,
>back. vocals, strings, pads, etc.
>Now pushing solo on a faderworks instance on any audio track you here only
>the group it belongs too, or mute !! the group.
>I also use the latency compensator.
>Putting an waves rvox I type 64 and all faderworks go up to 64.
>Putting a rchannel from waves on snare it needs a 65 , so I type 65 and
all
>others go up just one sample to 65 !!
>fantastic.
>I encourage all that you bought it, USE IT.
>You can ask me anything by the way if someone has some questions with it.
>Regards,
>DimitriosIt looks intriguing but I'm not sure about paying 89.00EUR to find out. They
really should have a demo going up against the big boys like Mac and
Microsoft for ppl to try.
AA
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>
> Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>
> http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.phpthis probably has something to do with Cron........
;oD
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7p06s2piu8dd7q8jj2a16nufeel5a7frtd@4ax.com...
>9 other cities had no problems with them...they just removed them
> without fanfare.
>
> On 2 Feb 2007 08:22:03 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote:
>>>Also note they were put up in numerous other cities all of which removed
>>
>>>them without a panic.
>>>
>>>Again if you look at them they look like 1' light brites. :)
>>>
>>>If it looked like a bomb, even slightly then ok... be suspicous.
>>
>>They said in a news report, that some of the devices were boxes with
>>flashing
>>lights and some had wires hanging out of them. They looked suspicious,
>>that's
>>why they blew some of them up. The authorities can't take chances with
>>stuff
>>like this. These were placed under bridges and in odd places in the
>>subway
>>system.
>>
>>This was on public property! If I was to promote a movie or a music CD,
>>what would be Ok for me to put on public property to promote my stuff???
>> It's not Ok! There is too much crazy shit going on in the world for this
>>kind of thing to be Ok.
>>
>>James
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c23aa1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I don't know that "prank" is the right term because that normally means
>>
>>>> they
>>>> mean to confuse but I think it was just for advertising right?
>>>>
>>>> Also the media is saying the "device" was a "hoax" and I don't think
>>>> hoax
>>>> applies and maybe not even device as much as they are using it in the
>>
>>>> media.
>>>> Shock the public, that's our media.
>>>
>>>
>Like this, I'd say.
http://ubuntustudio.org/
Not even a release yet, but headed there, and the Ubuntu folks have a record
of making things happen.
TCB
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>They seem to be trying to resurrect BeOS.
>I'd rather see it happen on Linux too
>
>TCB wrote:
>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Uh, the really really obvious one, why not use linux?
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Hey
Yes I already have ubuntu installed and waiting.
Just gotta figure out how to get the damn nvidia video card to install.
Damn linux >)
Everything else installed like a charm except the uptadted video card
drivers and Ardour. I'm a noob when it comes to the linux compiling
thing. Not like Ardour site is any help.
Chris
TCB wrote:
>Like this, I'd say.
>
>http://ubuntustudio.org/
>
>Not even a release yet, but headed there, and the Ubuntu folks have a record
>of making things happen.
>
>TCB
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>
>>They seem to be trying to resurrect BeOS.
>>I'd rather see it happen on Linux too
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Uh, the really really obvious one, why not use linux?
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
>>
>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Morgan,
Is there any possibility of video taping this and posting it to the web? It
would be great to be able to grok Cubase, TCB style.
Regards, MR
"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:45c29ed1@linux...
> Greetings :)
>
> Tuesday February 6th 7pm
> Steinberg Yamaha
> CUBASE/NUENDO/
> http://www.steinberg.net/24_1.html
> All things VST
> Hosted by CUBASE and Computer GURU Thad Brown
> * The first hour is always reserved for newcomers and beginners
> as always - special pricing for event !
>
> Tuesday February 13th 7pm
> Songwriters Workshop
> This Special workshop is hosted by :
> Seth Lefferts !
> * Please bring in your CD's for listening samples.
>
> Tuesday February 20th 7pm
> SONAR / Cakewalk
> http://www.cakewalk.com/
> * We will be having these now - Every Month !!
>
> Wednesday May 16th 9am-7pm
> Martin Guitars Field trip
> http://www.mguitar.com/visit/
> We booked a tour bus - this is an all day event/trip
> Limited seating **
> Please reserve a seat asap
>
> Coming Soon - Workshops on:
> Steinberg CUBASE /NUENDO hosted by Thad Brown
> PRO-TOOLS
> SONAR - Cakewalk hosted by Bobbi Tammaro and Seth Lefferts
> APPLE / MAC nights
> Ableton Live
> Reason
> Plus many many more !!
>
> What's new ?
>
>
> For 30 years The Eastcoast Music Mall has Bought you the finest
> in gear . We Now are offering :
>
> Mercury Magnetics
> http://www.mercurymagnetics.com/pages/mainframe.htm
> Put these in any amp and Watch out !!!
> You will be blown away - come in for a demo
> We have 2 amps side by side - One with Mercury installed
> The Difference is absolutely Amazing !!
>
>
> TC Electronics - Killer new Interface !
> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Konnekt24D
>
> Budda Tube Amps !
> http://www.budda.com/
> Boutique point to point hand wired - Amazing sounding Tube amps
> with HUGE Tone , at very modest pricing :)
> For more info - Email our in house Champion Tom Fulton !
> tom@eastcoastmusicmall.com
>
> Trade in Your Old Gear NOW!! Why not have your old gear help you get new
> gear?
> Take a look around your house and you'll probably find some instruments,
> components or perhaps an odd drum or cymbal. Chances are you have been
> considering buying a new instrument or finally picking up that new piece
of
> recording gear.
> We're always looking for anything. Bring it in and trade it for
> something new
> or turn it
> into cash. Just come in any time during business hours and it'll be our
> pleasure to help you.
>
> Morgan Pettinato!
>
> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/starr_rd1.htm
>
> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/newstore.htm
>
> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/paris.html
>
> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/pc.htm
>
>
> Eastcoast Music Mall
> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com
> e-mail morganp@ntplx.net
> 800-901-2001 or 203-748-2799 fax 203-791-2504
> Specializing in Quality gear and
> Uncompromising Personal Service for 30 years
>
> HUGE Showroom 50 miles from N.Y.C
> http://www.eastcoastmusicmall.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custo m&ID=2
> Always open 7 days / We ship anywhere
> Specializing in sound system design and Acoustical consultation
> TEF Certified acoustician on staff
> Worlds first Level 2 certified Auralex sales center
> Specializing in Audio for Worship
>
> Computer Builder for the most advanced Computer Audio system in the
world -
> Lakewood Church in Houston TX
>
> Worlds # 1 PC Audio department ( Headed by PC Authority Pete Leoni )
> Home of Q-Performance www.qperformance.com (Custom PC's for
> audio/multi-media)
> Specializing in digital audio and all peripherals
> Specializing in PC optimization and support
> Worlds # 1 EMU-Ensoniq PARIS dealer !
> Worlds # 1 RME dealer !
> Worlds # 1 UAD- 1 dealer !
> Worlds # 1 SE Microphone dealer !
> Worlds # 1 Brian Moore Custom dealer !
> KORG OASYS Authorized Showroom and training facility !
> http://www.korg.com/oasys/
> http://www.onebluemonkey.com/reviews1.asp?id=195
>
> PAUL REED SMITH - TOP TEN
> FLOYD ROSE CUSTOM TOP TEN
> TAYLOR GUITAR - TOP TEN
> Martin Guitar - Top Ten
> Garrison Guitar -Top Ten
> Seagull Guitar - Top Ten
> Steinberg America - Top Ten
> M-Audio Midiman - Top Ten
> Steinberg / Nuendo training facility
> 5.1 Training facility < By grammy award winner Christopher Brown >
>
> Weekly workshops on Digital audio related items and techniques !
>
> Eastcoast Music Mall * New Super HUGE Showroom !
> 15 Starr Rd
> Danbury CT 06810
> 800-901-2001
>never thought of that but...it does make sense.
:o)
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 07:02:59 -0700, "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com>
wrote:
>this probably has something to do with Cron........
>
>;oD
>
>"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7p06s2piu8dd7q8jj2a16nufeel5a7frtd@4ax.com...
>>9 other cities had no problems with them...they just removed them
>> without fanfare.
>>
>> On 2 Feb 2007 08:22:03 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote:
>>>>Also note they were put up in numerous other cities all of which removed
>>>
>>>>them without a panic.
>>>>
>>>>Again if you look at them they look like 1' light brites. :)
>>>>
>>>>If it looked like a bomb, even slightly then ok... be suspicous.
>>>
>>>They said in a news report, that some of the devices were boxes with
>>>flashing
>>>lights and some had wires hanging out of them. They looked suspicious,
>>>that's
>>>why they blew some of them up. The authorities can't take chances with
>>>stuff
>>>like this. These were placed under bridges and in odd places in the
>>>subway
>>>system.
>>>
>>>This was on public property! If I was to promote a movie or a music CD,
>>>what would be Ok for me to put on public property to promote my stuff???
>>> It's not Ok! There is too much crazy shit going on in the world for this
>>>kind of thing to be Ok.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c23aa1$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know that "prank" is the right term because that normally means
>>>
>>>>> they
>>>>> mean to confuse but I think it was just for advertising right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the media is saying the "device" was a "hoax" and I don't think
>>>>> hoax
>>>>> applies and maybe not even device as much as they are using it in the
>>>
>>>>> media.
>>>>> Shock the public, that's our media.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>Nope, my hourly rate for video taping is out of Morgan's range.
It's one SE ribbon per hour ;-)
TCB
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Morgan,
>Is there any possibility of video taping this and posting it to the web?
It
>would be great to be able to grok Cubase, TCB style.
>Regards, MR
>
>"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:45c29ed1@linux...
>> Greetings :)
>>
>> Tuesday February 6th 7pm
>> Steinberg Yamaha
>> CUBASE/NUENDO/
>> http://www.steinberg.net/24_1.html
>> All things VST
>> Hosted by CUBASE and Computer GURU Thad Brown
>> * The first hour is always reserved for newcomers and beginners
>> as always - special pricing for event !
>>
>> Tuesday February 13th 7pm
>> Songwriters Workshop
>> This Special workshop is hosted by :
>> Seth Lefferts !
>> * Please bring in your CD's for listening samples.
>>
>> Tuesday February 20th 7pm
>> SONAR / Cakewalk
>> http://www.cakewalk.com/
>> * We will be having these now - Every Month !!
>>
>> Wednesday May 16th 9am-7pm
>> Martin Guitars Field trip
>> http://www.mguitar.com/visit/
>> We booked a tour bus - this is an all day event/trip
>> Limited seating **
>> Please reserve a seat asap
>>
>> Coming Soon - Workshops on:
>> Steinberg CUBASE /NUENDO hosted by Thad Brown
>> PRO-TOOLS
>> SONAR - Cakewalk hosted by Bobbi Tammaro and Seth Lefferts
>> APPLE / MAC nights
>> Ableton Live
>> Reason
>> Plus many many more !!
>>
>> What's new ?
>>
>>
>> For 30 years The Eastcoast Music Mall has Bought you the finest
>> in gear . We Now are offering :
>>
>> Mercury Magnetics
>> http://www.mercurymagnetics.com/pages/mainframe.htm
>> Put these in any amp and Watch out !!!
>> You will be blown away - come in for a demo
>> We have 2 amps side by side - One with Mercury installed
>> The Difference is absolutely Amazing !!
>>
>>
>> TC Electronics - Killer new Interface !
>> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Konnekt24D
>>
>> Budda Tube Amps !
>> http://www.budda.com/
>> Boutique point to point hand wired - Amazing sounding Tube amps
>> with HUGE Tone , at very modest pricing :)
>> For more info - Email our in house Champion Tom Fulton !
>> tom@eastcoastmusicmall.com
>>
>> Trade in Your Old Gear NOW!! Why not have your old gear help you get new
>> gear?
>> Take a look around your house and you'll probably find some instruments,
>> components or perhaps an odd drum or cymbal. Chances are you have been
>> considering buying a new instrument or finally picking up that new piece
>of
>> recording gear.
>> We're always looking for anything. Bring it in and trade it for
>> something new
>>
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78222 is a reply to message #78208] |
Fri, 12 January 2007 01:23   |
excelav
 Messages: 2130 Registered: July 2005 Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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; or turn it
>> into cash. Just come in any time during business hours and it'll be our
>> pleasure to help you.
>>
>> Morgan Pettinato!
>>
>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/starr_rd1.htm
>>
>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/newstore.htm
>>
>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/paris.html
>>
>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/pc.htm
>>
>>
>> Eastcoast Music Mall
>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com
>> e-mail morganp@ntplx.net
>> 800-901-2001 or 203-748-2799 fax 203-791-2504
>> Specializing in Quality gear and
>> Uncompromising Personal Service for 30 years
>>
>> HUGE Showroom 50 miles from N.Y.C
>> http://www.eastcoastmusicmall.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custo m&ID=2
>> Always open 7 days / We ship anywhere
>> Specializing in sound system design and Acoustical consultation
>> TEF Certified acoustician on staff
>> Worlds first Level 2 certified Auralex sales center
>> Specializing in Audio for Worship
>>
>> Computer Builder for the most advanced Computer Audio system in the
>world -
>> Lakewood Church in Houston TX
>>
>> Worlds # 1 PC Audio department ( Headed by PC Authority Pete Leoni )
>> Home of Q-Performance www.qperformance.com (Custom PC's for
>> audio/multi-media)
>> Specializing in digital audio and all peripherals
>> Specializing in PC optimization and support
>> Worlds # 1 EMU-Ensoniq PARIS dealer !
>> Worlds # 1 RME dealer !
>> Worlds # 1 UAD- 1 dealer !
>> Worlds # 1 SE Microphone dealer !
>> Worlds # 1 Brian Moore Custom dealer !
>> KORG OASYS Authorized Showroom and training facility !
>> http://www.korg.com/oasys/
>> http://www.onebluemonkey.com/reviews1.asp?id=195
>>
>> PAUL REED SMITH - TOP TEN
>> FLOYD ROSE CUSTOM TOP TEN
>> TAYLOR GUITAR - TOP TEN
>> Martin Guitar - Top Ten
>> Garrison Guitar -Top Ten
>> Seagull Guitar - Top Ten
>> Steinberg America - Top Ten
>> M-Audio Midiman - Top Ten
>> Steinberg / Nuendo training facility
>> 5.1 Training facility < By grammy award winner Christopher Brown >
>>
>> Weekly workshops on Digital audio related items and techniques !
>>
>> Eastcoast Music Mall * New Super HUGE Showroom !
>> 15 Starr Rd
>> Danbury CT 06810
>> 800-901-2001
>>
>
>Here's the Edgy instructions.
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graph ics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
I'm a debian guy so it's a bit different but close. Oddly I've had better
luck with the beta drivers listed in the section following.
Reportedly Shuttleworth/Ubuntu have decided they're going to break the seal
and start shipping binary drivers/firmware with Ubuntu in the relatively
near future. As an info-anarchist I don't like this, I'd prefer that nVidia
and/or ATI would publish enough specs to reverse engineer the driver, but
that ain't gonna happen.
By FAR the largest barrier to normal people using linux is the lack of drivers
for video cards and wireless network cards (and increasingly, onboard ethernet)
at install time. It's not hard to get the stuff working, but it's harder
than Windows or OS X. Which is why I think Ubuntu is throwing in the towel
and shipping the non-free drivers.
TCB
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hey
>Yes I already have ubuntu installed and waiting.
>Just gotta figure out how to get the damn nvidia video card to install.
>Damn linux >)
>Everything else installed like a charm except the uptadted video card
>drivers and Ardour. I'm a noob when it comes to the linux compiling
>thing. Not like Ardour site is any help.
>Chris
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>
>>Like this, I'd say.
>>
>>http://ubuntustudio.org/
>>
>>Not even a release yet, but headed there, and the Ubuntu folks have a record
>>of making things happen.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>They seem to be trying to resurrect BeOS.
>>>I'd rather see it happen on Linux too
>>>
>>>TCB wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Uh, the really really obvious one, why not use linux?
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Chris Ludwig
>>>ADK
>>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>>(859) 635-5762
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Here is the waves latency table.
On my Paris rig Ultrapitch is 8192 latent !
Regards,
Dimitrios
Native Latency Table
Plug-In Latency Time [KHz]
44.1 96
measured in Samples
C1 comp / gate 340 720
C1 comp side ch 340 720
C4 64 128
L1 64 128
L2 64 128
L3 3528 7680
LinEq BroadBand 2679 5360
LinEq LowBand 2047 4095
Lin Mb 3528 7680
Morphoder 639 1279
Rchannel 65 129
Rcomp 64 128
RdeEsser 64 128
Rvox 64 128
Sound Shifter 6946 13858
Trans X 64 128
Ultra Pitch 8239 not supported
X-Click 2625 not supported
X-Crackle 2625 not supported
X-Noise 5120 5120
44.1 96
For TDM add 3 for each Plug-In except for the UltraPitch !!!
For HTDM add 1028 samples for each Plug-In.
"PaulN" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Is there a list of plugin latencies somewhere?
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>> would like to note here that after working a coupkle of days with faderworks
>>I don't know how could I work (mix) before in Paris !
>>Amazing..
>>I have put 64 instances along 4 eds cards as a standard preset.
>>I group all the instruments accordingly, drums, perc, ac.guitars, el.guitars,
>>back. vocals, strings, pads, etc.
>>Now pushing solo on a faderworks instance on any audio track you here only
>>the group it belongs too, or mute !! the group.
>>I also use the latency compensator.
>>Putting an waves rvox I type 64 and all faderworks go up to 64.
>>Putting a rchannel from waves on snare it needs a 65 , so I type 65 and
>all
>>others go up just one sample to 65 !!
>>fantastic.
>>I encourage all that you bought it, USE IT.
>>You can ask me anything by the way if someone has some questions with it.
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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That's great Dimitrios.
Anyone know the math to convert to 48k from 44k?
Thanks,
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:45c37759$1@linux...
Here is the waves latency table.
On my Paris rig Ultrapitch is 8192 latent !
Regards,
Dimitrios
Native Latency Table
Plug-In Latency Time [KHz]=20
44.1 96=20
measured in Samples=20
C1 comp / gate 340 720=20
C1 comp side ch 340 720=20
C4 64 128=20
L1 64 128=20
L2 64 128=20
L3 3528 7680=20
LinEq BroadBand 2679 5360=20
LinEq LowBand 2047 4095=20
Lin Mb 3528 7680=20
Morphoder 639 1279=20
Rchannel 65 129=20
Rcomp 64 128=20
RdeEsser 64 128=20
Rvox 64 128=20
Sound Shifter 6946 13858=20
Trans X 64 128=20
Ultra Pitch 8239 not supported=20
X-Click 2625 not supported=20
X-Crackle 2625 not supported=20
X-Noise 5120 5120=20
44.1 96=20
For TDM add 3 for each Plug-In except for the UltraPitch !!!
For HTDM add 1028 samples for each Plug-In.
"PaulN" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Is there a list of plugin latencies somewhere?
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>> would like to note here that after working a coupkle of days with =
faderworks
>>I don't know how could I work (mix) before in Paris !
>>Amazing..
>>I have put 64 instances along 4 eds cards as a standard preset.
>>I group all the instruments accordingly, drums, perc, ac.guitars, =
el.guitars,
>>back. vocals, strings, pads, etc.
>>Now pushing solo on a faderworks instance on any audio track you =
here only
>>the group it belongs too, or mute !! the group.
>>I also use the latency compensator.
>>Putting an waves rvox I type 64 and all faderworks go up to 64.
>>Putting a rchannel from waves on snare it needs a 65 , so I type 65 =
and
>all
>>others go up just one sample to 65 !!
>>fantastic.
>>I encourage all that you bought it, USE IT.
>>You can ask me anything by the way if someone has some questions =
with it.
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's great Dimitrios.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0103_01C746CE.B5C2FA90--Sweet! Thanks Dimitrios. Do you or anyone else happen to have them for the
EDS effects. Is there any latency other than lookahead values?
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>
>Here is the waves latency table.
>On my Paris rig Ultrapitch is 8192 latent !
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
>
>Native Latency Table
> Plug-In Latency Time [KHz]
> 44.1 96
> measured in Samples
>C1 comp / gate 340 720
>C1 comp side ch 340 720
>C4 64 128
>L1 64 128
>L2 64 128
>L3 3528 7680
>LinEq BroadBand 2679 5360
>LinEq LowBand 2047 4095
>Lin Mb 3528 7680
>Morphoder 639 1279
>Rchannel 65 129
>Rcomp 64 128
>RdeEsser 64 128
>Rvox 64 128
>Sound Shifter 6946 13858
>Trans X 64 128
>Ultra Pitch 8239 not supported
>X-Click 2625 not supported
>X-Crackle 2625 not supported
>X-Noise 5120 5120
>
>
> 44.1 96
>
>For TDM add 3 for each Plug-In except for the UltraPitch !!!
>For HTDM add 1028 samples for each Plug-In.
>
>
>
>
>"PaulN" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>Is there a list of plugin latencies somewhere?
>>
>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>> would like to note here that after working a coupkle of days with faderworks
>>>I don't know how could I work (mix) before in Paris !
>>>Amazing..
>>>I have put 64 instances along 4 eds cards as a standard preset.
>>>I group all the instruments accordingly, drums, perc, ac.guitars, el.guitars,
>>>back. vocals, strings, pads, etc.
>>>Now pushing solo on a faderworks instance on any audio track you here
only
>>>the group it belongs too, or mute !! the group.
>>>I also use the latency compensator.
>>>Putting an waves rvox I type 64 and all faderworks go up to 64.
>>>Putting a rchannel from waves on snare it needs a 65 , so I type 65 and
>>all
>>>others go up just one sample to 65 !!
>>>fantastic.
>>>I encourage all that you bought it, USE IT.
>>>You can ask me anything by the way if someone has some questions with
it.
>>>Regards,
>>>Dimitrios
>>
>I'll sell all four 21" CRT's plus the platform for $300.00. I've attached
some pics. You gotta come pick them up though. You're going to need a truck.
The platform without the monitors is shown on the right side of the frame on
two of the pics.
Nolimit as ALL eds plugins with no lookahead 2 samples.
Nolimit 0.001=50 samples
EDS/GATE 0.001=47 samples
0.002=93 samples
0.003=139 samples
0.004=184 samples
0.005=230 samples
Auxes also 2 samples
submxix 1 to submix 2 beetween 10-14 samples (mine has 12 samples)
Submixes thereafter are 2 samples.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"PaulN" <Paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Sweet! Thanks Dimitrios. Do you or anyone else happen to have them for
the
>EDS effects. Is there any latency other than lookahead values?
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>
>>Here is the waves latency table.
>>On my Paris rig Ultrapitch is 8192 latent !
>>Regards,
>>Dimitrios
>>
>>Native Latency Table
>> Plug-In Latency Time [KHz]
>> 44.1 96
>> measured in Samples
>>C1 comp / gate 340 720
>>C1 comp side ch 340 720
>>C4 64 128
>>L1 64 128
>>L2 64 128
>>L3 3528 7680
>>LinEq BroadBand 2679 5360
>>LinEq LowBand 2047 4095
>>Lin Mb 3528 7680
>>Morphoder 639 1279
>>Rchannel 65 129
>>Rcomp 64 128
>>RdeEsser 64 128
>>Rvox 64 128
>>Sound Shifter 6946 13858
>>Trans X 64 128
>>Ultra Pitch 8239 not supported
>>X-Click 2625 not supported
>>X-Crackle 2625 not supported
>>X-Noise 5120 5120
>>
>>
>> 44.1 96
>>
>>For TDM add 3 for each Plug-In except for the UltraPitch !!!
>>For HTDM add 1028 samples for each Plug-In.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"PaulN" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Is there a list of plugin latencies somewhere?
>>>
>>>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>> would like to note here that after working a coupkle of days with faderworks
>>>>I don't know how could I work (mix) before in Paris !
>>>>Amazing..
>>>>I have put 64 instances along 4 eds cards as a standard preset.
>>>>I group all the instruments accordingly, drums, perc, ac.guitars, el.guitars,
>>>>back. vocals, strings, pads, etc.
>>>>Now pushing solo on a faderworks instance on any audio track you here
>only
>>>>the group it belongs too, or mute !! the group.
>>>>I also use the latency compensator.
>>>>Putting an waves rvox I type 64 and all faderworks go up to 64.
>>>>Putting a rchannel from waves on snare it needs a 65 , so I type 65 and
>>>all
>>>>others go up just one sample to 65 !!
>>>>fantastic.
>>>>I encourage all that you bought it, USE IT.
>>>>You can ask me anything by the way if someone has some questions with
>it.
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dimitrios
>>>
>>
>Arrrggghhh!!!!! sorry.....wrong forum.
;oP
Well, anyway, come and get'em. I've got the original boxes for the monitors.
One of them is a little slow to light up and this one and another are less
adjustable as far as color goes, but they are clearly viewable and work fine
for Paris. You can get a full Paris mixer on each screen at 1600 x 1200
resolution.
Deej
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c39114@linux...
> I'll sell all four 21" CRT's plus the platform for $300.00. I've attached
> some pics. You gotta come pick them up though. You're going to need a
> truck.
> The platform without the monitors is shown on the right side of the frame
> on two of the pics.
>
>
>
>You get rid off all them nice, warm CRTs, you're gonna need space heater on
them cold, Colorado nights!!!
gantt
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Arrrggghhh!!!!! sorry.....wrong forum.
>
>;oP
>
>Well, anyway, come and get'em. I've got the original boxes for the monitors.
>One of them is a little slow to light up and this one and another are less
>adjustable as far as color goes, but they are clearly viewable and work
fine
>for Paris. You can get a full Paris mixer on each screen at 1600 x 1200
>resolution.
>
>Deej
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c39114@linux...
>> I'll sell all four 21" CRT's plus the platform for $300.00. I've attached
>> some pics. You gotta come pick them up though. You're going to need a
>> truck.
>> The platform without the monitors is shown on the right side of the frame
>> on two of the pics.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>I just love to see DJ cleaning up. Just think what great things he's gonna
do with a clean plate.
An a clear drive you can see forever.
JohnHey DJ,
I've heard that if you run a CRT through a compressor you can make a flat
panel monitor, but I haven't tried it. It could make them easier to ship.
RZ
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c39114@linux...
> I'll sell all four 21" CRT's plus the platform for $300.00. I've attached
> some pics. You gotta come pick them up though. You're going to need a
> truck.
> The platform without the monitors is shown on the right side of the frame
> on two of the pics.
>
>
>
>it's really toooooooooooo scary to even think about. the man
is...well...demented...but in a nice post texan way.
On 3 Feb 2007 06:53:42 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I just love to see DJ cleaning up. Just think what great things he's gonna
>do with a clean plate.
>
>An a clear drive you can see forever.
>
>JohnI should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8 years,
but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O, disk
cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives? I've
been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the Seagate
drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more than
2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast enough,
set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the heck
is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
RichardLOL!!!!
;o)
"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:45c39a48@linux...
> Hey DJ,
> I've heard that if you run a CRT through a compressor you can make a flat
> panel monitor, but I haven't tried it. It could make them easier to ship.
> RZ
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c39114@linux...
>> I'll sell all four 21" CRT's plus the platform for $300.00. I've attached
>> some pics. You gotta come pick them up though. You're going to need a
>> truck.
>> The platform without the monitors is shown on the right side of the frame
>> on two of the pics.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
Also, set your punch in to medium or long
"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:<
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t;>>Oh well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Like I told James, I'm looking seriously @ the DM4800 X2 for my Home
>>studio..To
>>>>>>host Both Nuendo & Pro Tools...AND yes, Liek BrianT does in Houston,
>>Paris
>>>>>>will be used a he master summing mixer/recorder..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The DM3200/4800 can't be beat in their price range. They have the sound,
>>>>>>looks, and product maturity. Tascam knew they had a winner with the
>DM24,then
>>>>>>knocked the ball out of the park with the DM3200, and now DM 4800..
>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now that it's official that Mackie has dropped the Ball with the DXB(20K
>>>>>>Plus), now selling are drastic discounts. The DXB is a one sweet sounding
>>>>>>board as well. At 9k it competes very well with Yammys O2r/96..But,
>(2)
>>>>>x
>>>>>>DM4800 @ around is just as and (imo) more potent ..AND dropped in a
>cool
>>>>>>Argosy, BAMM!..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.argosyconsole.com/dm3200.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nanaheyhey@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for all the info James!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How do they stack up against the Yamaha boards? (O2r96v2 and the DM1000v2,etc)
>>>>>>>Also, Cubase implementation will be a key factor if I move from Paris.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>will consider the Yamaha boards too (used though due to price) because
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>the Yammy/Steinberg connection and better Cubase implementation I
would
>>>>>>suppose.
>>>>>>>The Tascam boards do seem like a very good value though... especially
>>>>if
>>>>>>>they don't break and are not horribly non-intuitive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>By the way, the mic pres on the DM-32 and DM-48 are greatly improved
>>>>and
>>>>>>>vary
>>>>>>>>usable. It was only the DM-24 that had the problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hey Jon!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Some of the guys on the DA7 NG have switched to the Tascam DM 32s.
>>>
>>>>A
>>>>>>customer
>>>>>>>>>of mine also has one. The mixes from both source sound good. You
>>>should
>>>>>>>>>always test drive before you buy. You have to like it. I would
>think
>>>>>>>twice
>>>>>>>>>before buying a DM-24, the Mic pres were not so good, they had low
>>>head
>>>>>>>>room.
>>>>>>>>> If you use the DM-24 for line ins only, I think you'd be Ok. There
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>an upgrade for the mic pres through Tascam, they may no longer be
>>doing
>>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I hear the DM manuals are terrible, you can go down load them.
If
>>>you
>>>>>>>buy
>>>>>>>>>one, make sure you have 30 full days to test it. Clear your planner
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>test time. Read the manual in advance and go to the NG a lot before
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>get it. Every once in awhile Tascam puts out a lemon, so you want
>>>to
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>able to fully test what you buy from them. Unless they have changed
>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>policy, they only have a 90 day warranty!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <snoid@sheboygan.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Anyone here actually had any real hands on with this board/controller,
>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>with Cubase 4? James got me intrigued but I have read that the
build
>>>>>>quolity
>>>>>>>>>>may be somewhat on cheesy side.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>Let me know when you start selling off the pre's and mic's!! ;-)
David.
DJ wrote:I think it means when you do a punch by pressing record while in play or by
enabling through the jack on the back of the C16 that Paris will have a slight
delay before the punch happens and this setting deterimes that. For a screaming
pc with nothing going in short would work. Medium and long have been most
popular though and if you just pick long you can always slide the ends of
the track to adjust it to be just right after the recording is done.
"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks John,
>There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know
>what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
>problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>>
>> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
>> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>>
>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>>years,
>>
>>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,
>>>disk
>>
>>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives?
I've
>>
>>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>>Seagate
>>
>>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
>> than
>>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast enough,
>>
>>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
>>
>>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
>> heck
>>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>>Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>It has to do with record ready buffer.. short delay means the time between
when you hit 'record' and when it actually starts to record is a shorter
time than say medium or long. On a smaller EDS system, short is cool but get
past a 2 or 3 card system and things start getting a little whacky. Besides,
Paris' punch isn't exactly super tight so generally you'll end up punching a
little early and peeling back in the editor anyway.
AA
"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:45c3bb7b$1@linux...
> Thanks John,
> There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know
> what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
> problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>>
>> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at
>> http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
>> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>>
>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>>years,
>>
>>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,
>>>disk
>>
>>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives?
>>>I've
>>
>>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>>Seagate
>>
>>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
>> than
>>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast
>>>enough,
>>
>>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
>>
>>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
>> heck
>>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>>Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Ain't gonna happen. There are limits to how far reverse sluttage can be
taken..
;o)
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:45c3c742$1@linux...
> Let me know when you start selling off the pre's and mic's!! ;-)
>
> David.
>
> DJ wrote:A mic based economy... now that would be cool.
MR
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c36478$1@linux...
>
> Nope, my hourly rate for video taping is out of Morgan's range.
>
> It's one SE ribbon per hour ;-)
>
> TCB
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Morgan,
> >Is there any possibility of video taping this and posting it to the web?
> It
> >would be great to be able to grok Cubase, TCB style.
> >Regards, MR
> >
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> >> Specializing in PC optimization and support
> >> Worlds # 1 EMU-Ensoniq PARIS dealer !
> >> Worlds # 1 RME dealer !
> >> Worlds # 1 UAD- 1 dealer !
> >> Worlds # 1 SE Microphone dealer !
> >> Worlds # 1 Brian Moore Custom dealer !
> >> KORG OASYS Authorized Showroom and training facility !
> >> http://www.korg.com/oasys/
> >> http://www.onebluemonkey.com/reviews1.asp?id=195
> >>
> >> PAUL REED SMITH - TOP TEN
> >> FLOYD ROSE CUSTOM TOP TEN
> >> TAYLOR GUITAR - TOP TEN
> >> Martin Guitar - Top Ten
> >> Garrison Guitar -Top Ten
> >> Seagull Guitar - Top Ten
> >> Steinberg America - Top Ten
> >> M-Audio Midiman - Top Ten
> >> Steinberg / Nuendo training facility
> >> 5.1 Training facility < By grammy award winner Christopher Brown >
> >>
> >> Weekly workshops on Digital audio related items and techniques !
> >>
> >> Eastcoast Music Mall * New Super HUGE Showroom !
> >> 15 Starr Rd
> >> Danbury CT 06810
> >> 800-901-2001
> >>
> >
> >
>I've got one of those mics here. Nice aren't they?
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c36478$1@linux...
>
> Nope, my hourly rate for video taping is out of Morgan's range.
>
> It's one SE ribbon per hour ;-)
>
> TCB
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Morgan,
>>Is there any possibility of video taping this and posting it to the web?
> It
>>would be great to be able to grok Cubase, TCB style.
>>Regards, MR
>>
>>"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:45c29ed1@linux...
>>> Greetings :)
>>>
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e you have been
>>> considering buying a new instrument or finally picking up that new piece
>>of
>>> recording gear.
>>> We're always looking for anything. Bring it in and trade it for
>>> something new
>>> or turn it
>>> into cash. Just come in any time during business hours and it'll be our
>>> pleasure to help you.
>>>
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>>>
>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/starr_rd1.htm
>>>
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>>>
>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/paris.html
>>>
>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/pc.htm
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com
>>> e-mail morganp@ntplx.net
>>> 800-901-2001 or 203-748-2799 fax 203-791-2504
>>> Specializing in Quality gear and
>>> Uncompromising Personal Service for 30 years
>>>
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>>> http://www.eastcoastmusicmall.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custo m&ID=2
>>> Always open 7 days / We ship anywhere
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>>world -
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>>>
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>>> Home of Q-Performance www.qperformance.com (Custom PC's for
>>> audio/multi-media)
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>>> Specializing in PC optimization and support
>>> Worlds # 1 EMU-Ensoniq PARIS dealer !
>>> Worlds # 1 RME dealer !
>>> Worlds # 1 UAD- 1 dealer !
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>>> KORG OASYS Authorized Showroom and training facility !
>>> http://www.korg.com/oasys/
>>> http://www.onebluemonkey.com/reviews1.asp?id=195
>>>
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>>> FLOYD ROSE CUSTOM TOP TEN
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>>
>Also for me, doing a bunch of tracks like a drum punch,
using autopunch works a whole lot better than manual...
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>It has to do with record ready buffer.. short delay means the time between
>when you hit 'record' and when it actually starts to record is a shorter
>time than say medium or long. On a smaller EDS system, short is cool but
get
>past a 2 or 3 card system and things start getting a little whacky. Besides,
>Paris' punch isn't exactly super tight so generally you'll end up punching
a
>little early and peeling back in the editor anyway.
>
>AA
>
>"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:45c3bb7b$1@linux...
>> Thanks John,
>> There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know
>> what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
>> problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at
>>> http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
>>> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>>>
>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>>>years,
>>>
>>>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,
>>>>disk
>>>
>>>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives?
>>>>I've
>>>
>>>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>>>Seagate
>>>
>>>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
>>> than
>>>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast
>>>>enough,
>>>
>>>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes.
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r />
It
>>>
>>>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
>>> heck
>>>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>>>Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>Thanks James. I was all over it actually, but got sniped at the last minute!
Ah well ...
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Jon! There is a Tascam DM-3200 with a FW card about to go on ebay for
>$2000.00. It's in Chicago and shipping is $97.00.
>
>here are the links:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/TASCAM-DM-3200-Digital-Mixing-Firewire-o ption_W0QQitemZ180080107203QQihZ008QQcategoryZ23785QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> http://search.ebay.com/Tascam-DM-3200_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactio nZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfromZR9QQ fromZR9QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfstypeZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQ sacatZQ2d1QQsacurZ0QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZTascamQ20DMQ2d3200QQs spagenameZSTRKQ3aMEFSRCHQ3aSRCH
>
>James
>
>
>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi LaMont,
>>
>>Yup, the firewire seems very interesting (32 in/32 out@ 96k) but the MKII's
>>not out yet. Apparently some people have tried / are using a firmware updated
>>version of the firewire card that was originally intended for the DM-24.
>>
>>If I do this I will stick to the HD9652 for now.
>>
>>How dangerous do you think it would be to consider the DM3200 used?.. and
>>what do you think it should be worth?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>jj
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hey Jon,
>>>
>>>- most DM24 users/owners units have been rock solid
>>>- having stated the above, Yamaha Desks are as solid as they come. They
>>rarley
>>>break down. O2rs(orignals) are still cranking to this day.
>>>
>>>Have you considerd the Firewire Option? 32/32 ins/outs?
>>>
>>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Thanks LaMont -
>>>>
>>>>I had considered keeping some of my Paris rig to use as a glorified mastering
>>>>deck. Sounds like that's what you're suggesting here as a possible solution.
>>>>
>>>>I just finished talking to guy who is selling his 02r96v2 (which I've
>now
>>>>determined is way out of my price range - even used) and he shared an
>absolute
>>>>Tascam customer service horror story regarding a DM-24 he owned. 4 bad
>>power
>>>>supplies, LCD failed, lost studio time (had to ship it back something
>like
>>>>6 times - from Hawaii!!!!) and Tascam apparently never did make it right
>>>>for him.
>>>>
>>>>Hopefully they got it right with the new boards because the resounding
>>impression
>>>>I'm getting of Tascam's willingness/ability to stand behind their products
>>>>is the only thing causing hesitation for me right now.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Jon
>>>>
>>>>"LaMont " <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey Jon,
>>>>>
>>>>>Trust me, the marriage of the Tascam 3200 & Cuabse 4 is a match made
>in
>>>>heaven.
>>>>>You will not miss the Paris sound.
>>>>>
>>>>>However to not throw away your Paris investment(s), instead of summing
>>>out
>>>>>of the 3200..you can...
>>>>>
>>>>>Another way.. 3200 out via SP/Dif. into Paris Mec/442 SP/dif..for just
>>>a
>>>>>stereo sum .. Again, good sound.
>>>>>
>>>>>3200 master (analog outs) into Paris MEC/442.. 24bit(input Card)..then
>>>24bit
>>>>>out card..to master or internal bounce..
>>>>>
>>>>>You can't loose either way you go.. Grat choice!!
>>>>>P.S. Put into an Argosy!!! :)
>>>>>take care.
>>>>>
>>>>>- 3200 out (Adat x 2) 16 lightpipes stems into MEC (with 2 adat cards)..
>>>>>For stem mixing. Very cool.. Very good sound. and provides a means of
>>Matering
>>>>>within Paris.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nojij@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wow!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's a pretty ringing endorsement LaMont!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm definitely leaning towards the 3200 and Cubase 4. The only client
>>>in
>>>>>>my studio is me and I'm really just trying to get to a simpler workflow
>>>>>,for
>>>>>>the songwriting end of things, and still achieve quality results at
>the
>>>>>end
>>>>>>of the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can you eplain to me in a little more detail how you (and apparently
>>BT)
>>>>>>would be/are using Paris as the master summing mixer/recorder in this
>>>scenario?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've currently got Cubase SX3 lightpiped into Paris via a RME 9652
(
>>a
>>>>mini-Deej
>>>>>>set-up if, you will) but being a guy who only gets to work on my stuff
>>>>in
>>>>>>the evenings after work or on the weekends, the opportunity for confusion
>>>>>>in such a kludge ridden set-up doesn't lend itself to the creative
workflow.
>>>>>>That's why Cubase and a nice board/control surface appeals. My big
dilemma
>>>>>>though is that I still absolutely love the way Paris sounds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyway, thanks a ton for the input, greatly appreciated! I've got much
>>>>to
>>>>>>consider.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>jon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi Jon, I can chime in here on this question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I often work at a local studio http://www.lamourrecording.com/
>>>>>>>which has (2) Yamaha's DM2000. I can't speak highly enough of these
>>powerful
>>>>>>>beast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Great feel, 96 channels @ 96K
>>>>>>>Pro Tools, Neundo/Cubase/Sonar/Logic Controller
>>>>>>>Nice Comps/EQs on every channel
>>>>>>>(8) SPX-1000's DSP processors (REVerbs, Delays, Chorus.etc)
>>>>>>>Some of the sweetest (24) Mic pres you'll find
>>>>>>>All in a foot print that keeps the Engineer/Operator right in
>>>>>>>front of the mix..There's a ton more features..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I had a chance (2years) ago to take the then Tascam 3200 for week
session
>>>>>>>spin. Due to the fact that no body in our area had a O2r/96, we
rented
>>>>>>>the tascam.. Man, to my ears and others, the Tascam delivers the goods.
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>would have to say that the Tascam 3200 sonics was more "thick" than
>>the
>>>>>>DM2000.
>>>>>>>Different converters and clocks.. But, we mananged to get thru a sesion
>>>>>>without
>>>>>>>opening the manual!!
>>>>>>>You're not going to do that with the Yammys.. he 3200 had full eq
and
>>>>dynamics
>>>>>>>on every channel as well as I think 4 DSP processors for Verbs and
>dleays
>>>>>>>chorus FX.. The verbs were the star of this board. The algo's were
>from
>>>>>>TC!!
>>>>>>>the verb masters. Man, these verbs sounded like our TC 3000 ..really!!.
>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>Eqs were usuable as are the Comps/Lim..We click on the DAW controller
>>>>layer
>>>>>>>button, scrolled to the DAW template (Pro Tools)..Boom!! "Houston
We
>>>have
>>>>>>>Controll".. That easy.. We had transport, channel faders and Master
>>faders
>>>>>>>and edit scroll.. To be honest, we probable had more functions,but
>like
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>stated earlier, we had not read the manual..
>>>>>>>Oh well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Like I told James, I'm looking seriously @ the DM4800 X2 for my Home
>>>studio..To
>>>>>>>host Both Nuendo & Pro Tools...AND yes, Liek BrianT does in Houston,
>>>Paris
>>>>>>>will be used a he master summing mixer/recorder..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The DM3200/4800 can't be beat in their price range. They have the
sound,
>>>>>>>looks, and product maturity. Tascam knew they had a winner with the
>>DM24,then
>>>>>>>knocked the ball out of the park with the DM3200, and now DM 4800..
>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now that it's official that Mackie has dropped the Ball with the DXB(20K
>>>>>>>Plus), now selling are drastic discounts. The DXB is a one sweet sounding
>>>>>>>board as well. At 9k it competes very well with Yammys O2r/96..But,
>>(2)
>>>>>>x
>>>>>>>DM4800 @ around is just as and (imo) more potent ..AND dropped in
a
>>cool
>>>>>>>Argosy, BAMM!..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.argosyconsole.com/dm3200.htm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <nanaheyhey@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for all the info James!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How do they stack up against the Yamaha boards? (O2r96v2 and the
DM1000v2,etc)
>>>>>>>>Also, Cubase implementation will be a key factor if I move from Paris.
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>will consider the Yamaha boards too (used though due to price) because
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>the Yammy/Steinberg connection and better Cubase implementation I
>would
>>>>>>>suppose.
>>>>>>>>The Tascam boards do seem like a very good value though... especially
>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>they don't break and are not horribly non-intuitive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>By the way, the mic pres on the DM-32 and DM-48 are greatly improved
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>vary
>>>>>>>>>usable. It was only the DM-24 that had the problems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hey Jon!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Some of the guys on the DA7 NG have switched to the Tascam DM 32s.
>>>>
>>>>>A
>>>>>>>customer
>>>>>>>>>>of mine also has one. The mixes from both source sound good.
You
>>>>should
>>>>>>>>>>always test drive before you buy. You have to like it. I would
>>think
>>>>>>>>twice
>>>>>>>>>>before buying a DM-24, the Mic pres were not so good, they had
low
>>>>head
>>>>>>>>>room.
>>>>>>>>>> If you use the DM-24 for line ins only, I think you'd be Ok.
There
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>an upgrade for the mic pres through Tascam, they may no longer
be
>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I hear the DM manuals are terrible, you can go down load them.
>If
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>buy
>>>>>>>>>>one, make sure you have 30 full days to test it. Clear your planner
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>test time. Read the manual in advance and go to the NG a lot before
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>get it. Every once in awhile Tascam puts out a lemon, so you want
>>>>to
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>>>>able to fully test what you buy from them. Unless they have changed
>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>policy, they only have a 90 day warranty!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Jon Jiles" <snoid@sheboygan.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Anyone here actually had any real hands on with this board/controller,
>>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>>with Cubase 4? James got me intrigued but I have read that the
>build
>>>>>>>quolity
>>>>>>>>>>>may be somewhat on cheesy side.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>Jon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I always liked to set the punch a couple bars ahead of my desired point so
I could monitor the instrument up to the punch. The let me play on the groove
instead of being silent and then being told GO!
Then just slide the object's left edge to the right covering up the "pre-roll"
part.
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little things, but easy on the eyes, plus I can move them up much closer to
my sweet spot. They are capable of 1280 x 1024 rez and that will be perfect
for Cubase. They have very thin bezels so that there is good continuity
between screens on a dual monitor setup. . I'm going to get another one and
try one of the Matrox Triple Head 2Go boxes to get 3 x LCD's happening.
Anyone tried this little box.? Is it a demon from hell or will it bring me
joy (even if it won't help heat the studio)?
I need joy right now.
;o)
DeejI've been using Disk Warrior to defrag my drives.
Gantt
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm running OSX 10.4 on a G4. The access time on the HD seems alittle slow.
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>Thanks!
>MR
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>
>FWIW, I know a guy that bought one of these at compusa and he's not the
sharpest tool in the shed. He reported no problems setting it up on an old
junky 1Ghz Dell and WinXP.
AA
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c4a290@linux...
>I feel so naked without my massive 21" CRT's....plus, they kept the room
>warm.
> I've got a couple of Samsung 192N 19" LCD's here that I like a lot. Wimpy
> little things, but easy on the eyes, plus I can move them up much closer
> to my sweet spot. They are capable of 1280 x 1024 rez and that will be
> perfect for Cubase. They have very thin bezels so that there is good
> continuity between screens on a dual monitor setup. . I'm going to get
> another one and try one of the Matrox Triple Head 2Go boxes to get 3 x
> LCD's happening.
>
> Anyone tried this little box.? Is it a demon from hell or will it bring me
> joy (even if it won't help heat the studio)?
>
> I need joy right now.
>
> ;o)
> Deej
>Hey Deej,
I'd really suggest a single or maybe dual wide screen setup. The Dell 30"
or two of the 24/22 models. If you get an nVidia card to drive them you'll
also have keyboard shortcut accessible workspaces, so you can easily double
or triple your workspace by learning a few key combos. Much better than 2/3
19" monitors, which is what I work on at work.
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I feel so naked without my massive 21" CRT's....plus, they kept the room
>warm.
>I've got a couple of Samsung 192N 19" LCD's here that I like a lot. Wimpy
>little things, but easy on the eyes, plus I can move them up much closer
to
>my sweet spot. They are capable of 1280 x 1024 rez and that will be perfect
>for Cubase. They have very thin bezels so that there is good continuity
>between screens on a dual monitor setup. . I'm going to get another one
and
>try one of the Matrox Triple Head 2Go boxes to get 3 x LCD's happening.
>
>Anyone tried this little box.? Is it a demon from hell or will it bring
me
>joy (even if it won't help heat the studio)?
>
>I need joy right now.
>
>;o)
>Deej
>
>You see, I don't have one, so that's why I need to charge that!
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I've got one of those mics here. Nice aren't they?
>
>;o)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c36478$1@linux...
>>
>> Nope, my hourly rate for video taping is out of Morgan's range.
>>
>> It's one SE ribbon per hour ;-)
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com>
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>> TAYLOR GUITAR - TOP TEN
>>>> Martin Guitar - Top Ten
>>>> Garrison Guitar -Top Ten
>>>> Seagull Guitar - Top Ten
>>>> Steinberg America - Top Ten
>>>> M-Audio Midiman - Top Ten
>>>> Steinberg / Nuendo training facility
>>>> 5.1 Training facility < By grammy award winner Christopher Brown >
>>>>
>>>> Weekly workshops on Digital audio related items and techniques !
>>>>
>>>> Eastcoast Music Mall * New Super HUGE Showroom !
>>>> 15 Starr Rd
>>>> Danbury CT 06810
>>>> 800-901-2001
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Greetings,
I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2, Nvida...
Fresh XP home install.
I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start, crashes
paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects
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this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
Your experienced input is appreciated -
PiperI know this sounds sorta wierd, but this is the best soundingvocal mic on a
Mackie VLZ Pro preamp (using pop filter, of course) that I've used in a
while. My 1402 has enough gain to drive this mic. That's nuts for a ribbon
mic.
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c4eb68$1@linux...
>
> You see, I don't have one, so that's why I need to charge that!
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I've got one of those mics here. Nice aren't they?
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c36478$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Nope, my hourly rate for video taping is out of Morgan's range.
>>>
>>> It's one SE ribbon per hour ;-)
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>Morgan,
>>>>Is there any possibility of video taping this and posting it to the web?
>>> It
>>>>would be great to be able to grok Cubase, TCB style.
>>>>Regards, MR
>>>>
>>>>"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:45c29ed1@linux...
>>>>> Greetings :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday February 6th 7pm
>>>>> Steinberg Yamaha
>>>>> CUBASE/NUENDO/
>>>>> http://www.steinberg.net/24_1.html
>>>>> All things VST
>>>>> Hosted by CUBASE and Computer GURU Thad Brown
>>>>> * The first hour is always reserved for newcomers and beginners
>>>>> as always - special pricing for event !
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday February 13th 7pm
>>>>> Songwriters Workshop
>>>>> This Special workshop is hosted by :
>>>>> Seth Lefferts !
>>>>> * Please bring in your CD's for listening samples.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday February 20th 7pm
>>>>> SONAR / Cakewalk
>>>>> http://www.cakewalk.com/
>>>>> * We will be having these now - Every Month !!
>>>>>
>>>>> Wednesday May 16th 9am-7pm
>>>>> Martin Guitars Field trip
>>>>> http://www.mguitar.com/visit/
>>>>> We booked a tour bus - this is an all day event/trip
>>>>> Limited seating **
>>>>> Please reserve a seat asap
>>>>>
>>>>> Coming Soon - Workshops on:
>>>>> Steinberg CUBASE /NUENDO hosted by Thad Brown
>>>>> PRO-TOOLS
>>>>> SONAR - Cakewalk hosted by Bobbi Tammaro and Seth Lefferts
>>>>> APPLE / MAC nights
>>>>> Ableton Live
>>>>> Reason
>>>>> Plus many many more !!
>>>>>
>>>>> What's new ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For 30 years The Eastcoast Music Mall has Bought you the finest
>>>>> in gear . We Now are offering :
>>>>>
>>>>> Mercury Magnetics
>>>>> http://www.mercurymagnetics.com/pages/mainframe.htm
>>>>> Put these in any amp and Watch out !!!
>>>>> You will be blown away - come in for a demo
>>>>> We have 2 amps side by side - One with Mercury installed
>>>>> The Difference is absolutely Amazing !!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> TC Electronics - Killer new Interface !
>>>>> http://www.tcelectronic.com/Konnekt24D
>>>>>
>>>>> Budda Tube Amps !
>>>>> http://www.budda.com/
>>>>> Boutique point to point hand wired - Amazing sounding Tube amps
>>>>> with HUGE Tone , at very modest pricing :)
>>>>> For more info - Email our in house Champion Tom Fulton !
>>>>> tom@eastcoastmusicmall.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Trade in Your Old Gear NOW!! Why not have your old gear help you get
> new
>>>>> gear?
>>>>> Take a look around your house and you'll probably find some
>>>>> instruments,
>>>>> components or perhaps an odd drum or cymbal. Chances are you have been
>>>>> considering buying a new instrument or finally picking up that new
>>>>> piece
>>>>of
>>>>> recording gear.
>>>>> We're always looking for anything. Bring it in and trade it for
>>>>> something new
>>>>> or turn it
>>>>> into cash. Just come in any time during business hours and it'll be
> our
>>>>> pleasure to help you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Morgan Pettinato!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/starr_rd1.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/newstore.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/paris.html
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com/pc.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Eastcoast Music Mall
>>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusic.com
>>>>> e-mail morganp@ntplx.net
>>>>> 800-901-2001 or 203-748-2799 fax 203-791-2504
>>>>> Specializing in Quality gear and
>>>>> Uncompromising Personal Service for 30 years
>>>>>
>>>>> HUGE Showroom 50 miles from N.Y.C
>>>>> http://www.eastcoastmusicmall.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custo m&ID=2
>>>>> Always open 7 days / We ship anywhere
>>>>> Specializing in sound system design and Acoustical consultation
>>>>> TEF Certified acoustician on staff
>>>>> Worlds first Level 2 certified Auralex sales center
>>>>> Specializing in Audio for Worship
>>>>>
>>>>> Computer Builder for the most advanced Computer Audio system in the
>>>>world -
>>>>> Lakewood Church in Houston TX
>>>>>
>>>>> Worlds # 1 PC Audio department ( Headed by PC Authority Pete Leoni )
>>>>> Home of Q-Performance www.qperformance.com (Custom PC's for
>>>>> audio/multi-media)
>>>>> Specializing in digital audio and all peripherals
>>>>> Specializing in PC optimization and support
>>>>> Worlds # 1 EMU-Ensoniq PARIS dealer !
>>>>> Worlds # 1 RME dealer !
>>>>> Worlds # 1 UAD- 1 dealer !
>>>>> Worlds # 1 SE Microphone dealer !
>>>>> Worlds # 1 Brian Moore Custom dealer !
>>>>> KORG OASYS Authorized Showroom and training facility !
>>>>> http://www.korg.com/oasys/
>>>>> http://www.onebluemonkey.com/reviews1.asp?id=195
>>>>>
>>>>> PAUL REED SMITH - TOP TEN
>>>>> FLOYD ROSE CUSTOM TOP TEN
>>>>> TAYLOR GUITAR - TOP TEN
>>>>> Martin Guitar - Top Ten
>>>>> Garrison Guitar -Top Ten
>>>>> Seagull Guitar - Top Ten
>>>>> Steinberg America - Top Ten
>>>>> M-Audio Midiman - Top Ten
>>>>> Steinberg / Nuendo training facility
>>>>> 5.1 Training facility < By grammy award winner Christopher Brown >
>>>>>
>>>>> Weekly workshops on Digital audio related items and techniques !
>>>>>
>>>>> Eastcoast Music Mall * New Super HUGE Showroom !
>>>>> 15 Starr Rd
>>>>> Danbury CT 06810
>>>>> 800-901-2001
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Hey Deej, what you need is one of these 4 LCD stands.
http://www.ergoindemand.com/lcd-stands-multi-astra.htm
Shop around, I've seen them cheaper.
James
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>I feel so naked without my massive 21" CRT's....plus, they kept the room
>warm.
>I've got a couple of Samsung 192N 19" LCD's here that I like a lot. Wimpy
>little things, but easy on the eyes, plus I can move them up much closer
to
>my sweet spot. They are capable of 1280 x 1024 rez and that will be perfect
>for Cubase. They have very thin bezels so that there is good continuity
>between screens on a dual monitor setup. . I'm going to get another one
and
>try one of the Matrox Triple Head 2Go boxes to get 3 x LCD's happening.
>
>Anyone tried this little box.? Is it a demon from hell or will it bring
me
>joy (even if it won't help heat the studio)?
>
>I need joy right now.
>
>;o)
>Deej
>
>Talk about the control center, this one could make a guy feel real manly;
)
http://www.ergoindemand.com/flat-panel-arm-mount.htm
James
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Deej, what you need is one of these 4 LCD stands.
>
>http://www.ergoindemand.com/lcd-stands-multi-astra.htm
>
>Shop around, I've seen them cheaper.
>
>James
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>I feel so naked without my massive 21" CRT's....plus, they kept the room
>
>>warm.
>>I've got a couple of Samsung 192N 19" LCD's here that I like a lot. Wimpy
>
>>little things, but easy on the eyes, plus I can move them up much closer
>to
>>my sweet spot. They are capable of 1280 x 1024 rez and that will be perfect
>
>>for Cubase. They have very thin bezels so that there is good continuity
>
>>between screens on a dual monitor setup. . I'm going to get another one
>and
>>try one of the Matrox Triple Head 2Go boxes to get 3 x LCD's happening.
>>
>>Anyone tried this little box.? Is it a demon from hell or will it bring
>me
>>joy (even if it won't help heat the studio)?
>>
>>I need joy right now.
>>
>>;o)
>>Deej
>>
>>
>Piper,
Look through the old posts..there's plenty of info.
I was running Paris on XP for years and it was totally stable.
Don't forget to turn OFF Hyperthreading.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:45c4eda9$1@linux...
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
> Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start,
> crashes
> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
> PiperPiper,
It does sound like your hyperthreading is on... look in your BIOS when you
turn on your computer. Be sure that it is turned off. It also could be
related to the services. You can't just install XP and expect Paris to
function properly. Here is a link to go through and be sure some things are
set correctly.
http://kfocus.com/paris/tree.html
Good luck.... ~ Ed
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:45c4eda9$1@linux...
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
> Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start,
> crashes
> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
> PiperMicrosoft? And you trust them to come to the people's aid? lol.
People can be naive about this and trust them (M$ or Sony) that they have
the answer to remove it... go fer it! But techies have proven that it's not
completely removed and the only "fer sure" way to remove it is reformat and
restore... I bit of google search will reveal.
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:45c22d2b$1@linux...
>
> Microsoft released a tool in December 2005 that will cleanly remove the
> Sony
> Rootkit.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/890830/
>
> Chuck
> "Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>Ridiculous!
>>
>>They deserve worse and $150 to help each customer in repair? Sheezuz...
>
>>that won't be much help for a VIRII that is non-removeable... except for
>
>>restore. And Sony will want your blood to convince them that they were
> the
>>problem with your computer... Absolutely ridiculous and worthless
>>decision... They deserve more humiliation than a slap in the hand!
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c0bae1$1@linux...
>>>
>>> <begin paste>
>>> Sony settles with FTC
>>> The Federal Trade Commission says Sony BMG went too far with anti-piracy
>>> and other measure that "...limited the devices on which the music could
> be
>>> played, restricted the number of copies that could be made, and
>>> contained
>>> technology that monitored their listening habits to send them marketing
>
>>> messages."
>>> It also made customer computers susceptible to hackers. All of this
>>> should
>>> have been made clear to customers beforehand, says the FTC. Once on a
>
>>> customer's
>>> computer, the software was said to be difficult to remove, and this led
> to
>>> a requirement that the company reimburse customers up to 150 dollars for
>>> damage done to their computer while attempting to do so. Customers also
>
>>> have
>>> until 6/31/07 to exchange the CDs. "Installations of secret software
>>> that
>>> create security risks are intrusive and unlawful," said FTC Chairman
>>> Deborah
>>> Platt Majoras. "Consumers' computers belong to them, and companies must
>
>>> ade!
>>> quately disclose unexpected limitations on the customary use of their
>
>>> products
>>> so consumers can make informed decisions regarding whether to purchase
> and
>>> install that content."
>>>
>>
>>
>Just ike Linux... nobody (software and hardware) will suport it... so it is
just another OS.
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>
> Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>
> http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.phpOne thing I noticed and could reproduce while tracking drums last week was
that Paris will punchin better and not show its ugly "data could not be
streamed...yadayada error" as much if you clear all takes/splices after the
now line on the tracks being recorded. Must be a HD seek / through-put
issues.
3 card sys on ME, 1.4Gig Athlon
Rob
"john" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3c777$1@linux...
>
> I think it means when you do a punch by pressing record while in play or
> by
> enabling through the jack on the back of the C16 that Paris will have a
> slight
> delay before the punch happens and this setting deterimes that. For a
> screaming
> pc with nothing going in short would work. Medium and long have been most
> popular though and if you just pick long you can always slide the ends of
> the track to adjust it to be just right after the recording is done.
>
> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>Thanks John,
>>There's a whole lot of interesting info on that site. I still don't know
>
>>what a manual punch delay is, but I think it being set to short was my
>>problem. Easy fix. Thanks again.
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c3b574$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Some samples are under Setup / paris.cfg at
>>> http://www.kfocus.com/paris/
>>> Also, set your punch in to medium or long
>>>
>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>I should probably know this since I've been using Paris for almost 8
>>>>years,
>>>
>>>>but can anyone enlighten me on ideal configuration settings (disk I/O,
>
>>>>disk
>>>
>>>>cache size)? Are there any issues with standard format NTFS drives?
> I've
>>>
>>>>been using a 3 card system on XP for a couple years and now use the
>>>>Seagate
>>>
>>>>drives with 16MB cache, but still have problems doing punches with more
>>> than
>>>>2 tracks. I always get the pesky "data could not be streamed fast
>>>>enough,
>>>
>>>>set playback for a slower machine", message as the playback chokes. It
>>>
>>>>seems I got better performance years ago on a Pentium II. And what the
>>> heck
>>>>is a manual punch delay? Any input would be much appreciated, thanks.
>>>>Richard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Nobody? You're kidding, right?
Looks like it already ships with an assortment of software.
And Linux, BTW, has thousands of titles available and runs on most off
the shelf hardware.
Likely some handful of programs you currently use are not compiled for
those operating systems, but that would hardly indicate "nobody"
supporting them.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Ed wrote:
> Just ike Linux... nobody (software and hardware) will suport it... so it is
> just another OS.
>
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>> Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>
>> http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>
>Hi, Piper.
I am still getting occasional crashes when loading heavily
laden projects as well. I always assumed it was some rogue plugin
I have installed. Never really got to the bottom of it, because
usually after a crash and a restart, the projects do load.
Apart from that, Paris is quite stable, and runs smoothly.
Single core on a K8NS ultra 939.
There was a thread some time ago started by Dimitrios,
(search for "Paris and crashes you should all know that !!"
which suggests that moving the Paris install folder and vst folder
to the root of C drive solves the problem. I tried it and it
seemed to improve the situation, but not cure it completely.
Good Luck.
Kim
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>Greetings,
>
>I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
>Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2, Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
>I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
>It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start, crashes
>paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
>this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
>Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
>Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
>PiperDiskWarrior, great though it is, does not defrag a drive. It only rebuilds
and defrags its directory.
Though many, including Apple. claim that OS X drives don't need defragging,
they do, as I recently learned, in fact, from DiskWarrior 4. It said it didn't
have enough space to do a fail-safe directory replacement even though I had
40 GB free on my drive. I called Alsoft, and they told me to defrag.
I bought the $30 iDefrag, which worked for me, though it took about 16 hours
to clean up my 150 GB boot drive.
Given the inherently risky nature of defragging, please don't take my positive
experience for a guarantee that iBackup will work for you. Mine is just one
positive report. Of course, the safest way to defrag is to clone and then
restore your drive if you have a second drive of the same size.
>I've been using Disk Warrior to defrag my drives.Hmmmm.....I'm looking pretty hard at a pair of Dell 2407's. That would
provide adequate screen real estate. Is there a dual head NVidia AGP card
with dual DVI outs? there will be a 15-20' cable run from the machine room
to the monitors.
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le run from the machine room
> to the monitors.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c4eb1b$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Deej,
>>
>> I'd really suggest a single or maybe dual wide screen setup. The Dell 30"
>> or two of the 24/22 models. If you get an nVidia card to drive them
>> you'll
>> also have keyboard shortcut accessible workspaces, so you can easily
>> double
>> or triple your workspace by learning a few key combos. Much better than
>> 2/3
>> 19" monitors, which is what I work on at work.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>I feel so naked without my massive 21" CRT's....plus, they kept the room
>>
>>>warm.
>>>I've got a couple of Samsung 192N 19" LCD's here that I like a lot. Wimpy
>>
>>>little things, but easy on the eyes, plus I can move them up much closer
>> to
>>>my sweet spot. They are capable of 1280 x 1024 rez and that will be
>>>perfect
>>
>>>for Cubase. They have very thin bezels so that there is good continuity
>>
>>>between screens on a dual monitor setup. . I'm going to get another one
>> and
>>>try one of the Matrox Triple Head 2Go boxes to get 3 x LCD's happening.
>>>
>>>Anyone tried this little box.? Is it a demon from hell or will it bring
>> me
>>>joy (even if it won't help heat the studio)?
>>>
>>>I need joy right now.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>Check the FS site.
DeejThis shorter link give you a more navigable site: http://kfocus.com/parisHmmm. I must be using Tech Tool to defrag. You can see how often I do it.
I don't know if OS X benefits from defragging, but my OS 9 volumes definitely
do. Paris, and the Waves plugins in particular, loads much faster after
defragging.
Gantt
"Robby Berman" <robbyberman@mac.com> wrote:
>
>DiskWarrior, great though it is, does not defrag a drive. It only rebuilds
>and defrags its directory.
>Though many, including Apple. claim that OS X drives don't need defragging,
>they do, as I recently learned, in fact, from DiskWarrior 4. It said it
didn't
>have enough space to do a fail-safe directory replacement even though I
had
>40 GB free on my drive. I called Alsoft, and they told me to defrag.
>I bought the $30 iDefrag, which worked for me, though it took about 16 hours
>to clean up my 150 GB boot drive.
>Given the inherently risky nature of defragging, please don't take my positive
>experience for a guarantee that iBackup will work for you. Mine is just
one
>positive report. Of course, the safest way to defrag is to clone and then
>restore your drive if you have a second drive of the same size.
>
>>I've been using Disk Warrior to defrag my drives.
>I too thinks it's hyperthreading.
Wayne
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:45c4eda9$1@linux...
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
> Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start,
> crashes
> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
> PiperThat would even be a bit of overkill for the kind of 2D work you'll do but
that will cut it.
I use a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice monitor.
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-GEFORCE-6800XTREME-512MB-GDDR3-AGP-8 x-DUAL-DVI-CARD_W0QQitemZ110087929017QQihZ001QQcategoryZ4016 1QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>this one maybe?
>
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c57a93@linux...
>> Hmmmm.....I'm looking pretty hard at a pair of Dell 2407's. That would
>> provide adequate screen real estate. Is there a dual head NVidia AGP card
>> with dual DVI outs? there will be a 15-20' cable run from the machine
room
>> to the monitors.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c4eb1b$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Deej,
>>>
>>> I'd really suggest a single or maybe dual wide screen setup. The Dell
30"
>>> or two of the 24/22 models. If you get an nVidia card to drive them
>>> you'll
>>> also have keyboard shortcut accessible workspaces, so you can easily
>>> double
>>> or triple your workspace by learning a few key combos. Much better than
>>> 2/3
>>> 19" monitors, which is what I work on at work.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>I feel so naked without my massive 21" CRT's....plus, they kept the room
>>>
>>>>warm.
>>>>I've got a couple of Samsung 192N 19" LCD's here that I like a lot. Wimpy
>>>
>>>>little things, but easy on the eyes, plus I can move them up much closer
>>> to
>>>>my sweet spot. They are capable of 1280 x 1024 rez and that will be
>>>>perfect
>>>
>>>>for Cubase. They have very thin bezels so that there is good continuity
>>>
>>>>between screens on a dual monitor setup. . I'm going to get another one
>>> and
>>>>try one of the Matrox Triple Head 2Go boxes to get 3 x LCD's happening.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone tried this little box.? Is it a demon from hell or will it bring
>>> me
>>>>joy (even if it won't help heat the studio)?
>>>>
>>>>I need joy right now.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>The spectacular ignorance of this deserves no response, but nevertheless I
will. Whenever I read something like this I wish the person making the statement
would be forced to live without free software. That all their web servers
would run IIS and none of their networking protocols would work and all of
their media would be mercilessly DRM'd and ever file type completely proprietary.
Sadly, that doesn't happen, and people say things like this.
Just FYI - as one who installs new machines all the time, even with an image
that lets me have most apps pre-installed an XP setup on a new machine takes
3X as long as a linux setup. A base Ubuntu install can be done in 30-45 minutes
and includes everything 95% of the public would need to use a computer, save
a media player because of licensing issues. This includes web browsing and
authoring tools, high quality image editing, an office suite, and an email/contact/scheduling
app. And it's patched and secure.
TCB
"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>Just ike Linux... nobody (software and hardware) will suport it... so it
is
>just another OS.
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>>
>> Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>
>> http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>
><soapbox>
Personally, I would love to see a group like the ZetaOS sue the crap
out of hardware manufacturers who refuse to work with them to develop
drivers.
In a related lawsuit, I would REALLY love to see a class action suit
against Comcast and all the other big ISPs for refusing to support
LINUX. They are f**king billionaires sucking in big bucks from all of
us, but can't seem to hire 100 Linux gurus to support this OS. No
offense, Mac users, but for every one of you, I know 5 people who run
Linux as their main OS, so I know the numbers are there to support
Linux.
Lawyers! Where are the lawyers? We need more LAWYERS!!!
</soapbox>
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Maryland
On 5 Feb 2007 05:21:59 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>The spectacular ignorance of this deserves no response, but nevertheless I
>will. Whenever I read something like this I wish the person making the statement
>would be forced to live without free software. That all their web servers
>would run IIS and none of their networking protocols would work and all of
>their media would be mercilessly DRM'd and ever file type completely proprietary.
>Sadly, that doesn't happen, and people say things like this.
>
>Just FYI - as one who installs new machines all the time, even with an image
>that lets me have most apps pre-installed an XP setup on a new machine takes
>3X as long as a linux setup. A base Ubuntu install can be done in 30-45 minutes
>and includes everything 95% of the public would need to use a computer, save
>a media player because of licensing issues. This includes web browsing and
>authoring tools, high quality image editing, an office suite, and an email/contact/scheduling
>app. And it's patched and secure.
>
>TCB
>
>"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>Just ike Linux... nobody (software and hardware) will suport it... so it
>is
>>just another OS.
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>
>>Overkill???...........damn!!!...how long have you known me now Thad?
;o)
I'm new to all this DVI stuff. Looks like the video card has a DVI-I output
while the 2407's have DVI-D inputs. Looks like a DVI-D cable would work for
both though. Might be good to check and see if I need some kind of adapter
though, dontcha' think?
I really like the DVI stuff I see here at Office Depot (the only place I can
demo anything like this) I've been suffering a bit of eyestrain for a while
now due to those CRT's being just a little too distant to see everything
comfortably at 1600 x 1200 and I have discovered the hard way that getting a
good clear display up close makes working *a lot* easier/more
comfortable....so much so that it's worth throwing a bit of money at, IMO.
Thanks for your help
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c61ddf$1@linux...
>
> That would even be a bit of overkill for the kind of 2D work you'll do but
> that will cut it.
>
> I use a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice monitor.
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-GEFORCE-6800XTREME-512MB-GDDR3-AGP-8 x-DUAL-DVI-CARD_W0QQitemZ110087929017QQihZ001QQcategoryZ4016 1QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>this one maybe?
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c57a93@linux...
>>> Hmmmm.....I'm looking pretty hard at a pair of Dell 2407's. That would
>
>>> provide adequate screen real estate. Is there a dual head NVidia AGP
>>> card
>
>>> with dual DVI outs? there will be a 15-20' cable run from the machine
> room
>>> to the monitors.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c4eb1b$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hey Deej,
>>>>
>>>> I'd really suggest a single or maybe dual wide screen setup. The Dell
> 30"
>>>> or two of the 24/22 models. If you get an nVidia card to drive them
>>>> you'll
>>>> also have keyboard shortcut accessible workspaces, so you can easily
>
>>>> double
>>>> or triple your workspace by learning a few key combos. Much better than
>
>>>> 2/3
>>>> 19" monitors, which is what I work on at work.
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>I feel so naked without my massive 21" CRT's....plus, they kept the
>>>>>room
>>>>
>>>>>warm.
>>>>>I've got a couple of Samsung 192N 19" LCD's here that I like a lot.
>>>>>Wimpy
>>>>
>>>>>little things, but easy on the eyes, plus I can move them up much
>>>>>closer
>>>> to
>>>>>my sweet spot. They are capable of 1280 x 1024 rez and that will be
>>>>>perfect
>>>>
>>>>>for Cubase. They have very thin bezels so that there is good continuity
>>>>
>>>>>between screens on a dual monitor setup. . I'm going to get another one
>>>> and
>>>>>try one of the Matrox Triple Head 2Go boxes to get 3 x LCD's happening.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone tried this little box.? Is it a demon from hell or will it bring
>>>> me
>>>>>joy (even if it won't help heat the studio)?
>>>>>
>>>>>I need joy right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>;o)
>>>>>Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Well, with the way IP law is run these days we're more likely to see the free
software community getting sued for (legally) reverse engineering a driver
than what you suggest. I find this especially galling because the linux kernel
devs have pretty much caved 100% and will develop/maintain drivers if companies
will do really simple things like have a contact person who will answer questions
on occasion.
http://www.kroah.com/log/2007/01/29/#free_drivers
But beyond that what I find especially galling is the callous treatment of
free software by people who even make money off of it. SSH is used by EVERYONE,
from Cisco routers to home DSL modems to essentially every shopping card/credit
card charging web site in the world. It's maintained by Theo de Raadt and
the FreeBSD crew and last year he had to go begging for money just to keep
the lights turned on. That companies like Apple and Cisco rake in billions
using BSD licensed tech like that and Theo is trying to scrape up $40k to
keep his web servers running and pay for travel so third world developers
can join in on bug squashing weekends, well, it's awful. Which is why when
someone says 'nobody supports linux' it pisses me off, because linux people
support linux a whole lot better than most for profit OS people support what
they release.
That said, on a positive note, I had a good linux experience with HP. Or
rather a friend did. He bought my old HP laptop from me, it was only a year
old or so. He's a good friend so I cut him a great deal and went over to
do the setup at his house. Bless his heart there was a bottle of Patron there
so I started sipping tequila and setting up Ubuntu and his wireless and so
on. After an hour and a half of work (not on the laptop, but on his screwy
Netgear wireless router) I realized that tequila had the better of me and
I ought to call it a night. Everything was working save the wireless card.
I called him a day or two later to find a time to finish up and he said he
had called HP phone support and they walked him through setting up the wifi
driver in Ubuntu! Very nice, I'll be buying more HP gear in the future.
TCB
Paul Artola <artola@comcast.net> wrote:
><soapbox>
>Personally, I would love to see a group like the ZetaOS sue the crap
>out of hardware manufacturers who refuse to work with them to develop
>drivers.
>
>In a related lawsuit, I would REALLY love to see a class action suit
>against Comcast and all the other big ISPs for refusing to support
>LINUX. They are f**king billionaires sucking in big bucks from all of
>us, but can't seem to hire 100 Linux gurus to support this OS. No
>offense, Mac users, but for every one of you, I know 5 people who run
>Linux as their main OS, so I know the numbers are there to support
>Linux.
>
>Lawyers! Where are the lawyers? We need more LAWYERS!!!
></soapbox>
>
>- Paul Artola
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>On 5 Feb 2007 05:21:59 +1000, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>The spectacular ignorance of this deserves no response, but nevertheless
I
>>will. Whenever I read something like this I wish the person making the
statement
>>would be forced to live without free software. That all their web servers
>>would run IIS and none of their networking protocols would work and all
of
>>their media would be mercilessly DRM'd and ever file type completely proprietary.
>>Sadly, that doesn't happen, and people say things like this.
>>
>>Just FYI - as one who installs new machines all the time, even with an
image
>>that lets me have most apps pre-installed an XP setup on a new machine
takes
>>3X as long as a linux setup. A base Ubuntu install can be done in 30-45
minutes
>>and includes everything 95% of the public would need to use a computer,
save
>>a media player because of licensing issues. This includes web browsing
and
>>authoring tools, high quality image editing, an office suite, and an email/contact/scheduling
>>app. And it's patched and secure.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>>Just ike Linux... nobody (software and hardware) will suport it... so
it
>>is
>>>just another OS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>>
>>>
>I will be leaving PARIS.
I am going to go Cubase SX as my main DAW.
I love PARIS and really enjoy its GUI, but it
is too much trouble for me.
I will be selling my rig i the near future.
I just need to export WAVs of all my existing ppjs.
I will be selling:
2 X EDS Cards
2 X MECs (1 blue , 1 black)
1 - 8 IN
1 - 8 OUT
1 - ADAT CARD
1 - Extra PARIS Cable Kit
1 - PARIS 3.0 and tranfer of license
1 - C16
Also...
1 - AKG C3000 mic (mint)
1 - Digiech Studio Vocalist EX Rack Mount (mint)
1 - Brand new EMU sound Card(more on this later)I think 0404.
I will post prices later, but it will be what ever they have been going for
on the FS group.
So if anyone want s to lay claim you can speak now.
Brandon_Goodwin AT sbcglobal DOT netAnyone here using 24" LCDs at 1920x1200? I'm considering moving to a single
large main LCD
with a 17" secondary for misc extra screens (video playback window in
Nuendo, config screens, etc).
I'm looking around local retailers to try and see one of these at high res,
but of course, most barely
even run their display monitors with a clean signal, much less the correct
resolution.
Any issues with running something like an nVidia card DVI-D or DVI to one -
such as extra cpu
overhead that would be problematic for a DAW? Any problems mixing a large
hi res monitor
with a 17" at 1280x1024? I'll go PCIe for this obviously.
Thanks,
DedricHi Dedric,
As long as the 24" isn't Dual-Link DVI then you should be fine running
different resolution monitors.
The card by xfxforce are decent and they have some fan less models. Any
model 7300GT or above should be fine for that resolution.
Chris
Dedric Terry wrote:
>Anyone here using 24" LCDs at 1920x1200? I'm considering moving to a single
>large main LCD
>with a 17" secondary for misc extra screens (video playback window in
>Nuendo, config screens, etc).
>
>I'm looking around local retailers to try and see one of these at high res,
>but of course, most barely
>even run their display monitors with a clean signal, much less the correct
>resolution.
>
>Any issues with running something like an nVidia card DVI-D or DVI to one -
>such as extra cpu
>overhead that would be problematic for a DAW? Any problems mixing a large
>hi res monitor
>with a 17" at 1280x1024? I'll go PCIe for this obviously.
>
>Thanks,
>Dedric
>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Norton Utilities
DCOh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
rock on,
-CarlI am planning to migrate sometime perhaps this year myself. However - I will
not be selling off my stuff. Might be starting up a Paris archive/file
transfer rendering business soon. :) Ha.
-Carl
"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:45c660c5$1@linux...
>
> I will be leaving PARIS.
> I am going to go Cubase SX as my main DAW.
> I love PARIS and really enjoy its GUI, but it
> is too much trouble for me.
> I will be selling my rig i the near future.
> I just need to export WAVs of all my existing ppjs.
> I will be selling:
> 2 X EDS Cards
> 2 X MECs (1 blue , 1 black)
> 1 - 8 IN
> 1 - 8 OUT
> 1 - ADAT CARD
> 1 - Extra PARIS Cable Kit
> 1 - PARIS 3.0 and tranfer of license
> 1 - C16
> Also...
> 1 - AKG C3000 mic (mint)
> 1 - Digiech Studio Vocalist EX Rack Mount (mint)
> 1 - Brand new EMU sound Card(more on this later)I think 0404.
>
> I will post prices later, but it will be what ever they have been going
for
> on the FS group.
> So if anyone want s to lay claim you can speak now.
>
> Brandon_Goodwin AT sbcglobal DOT net
>
>
>
>Yeah not looking forward to exporting all those files.
B
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>I am planning to migrate sometime perhaps this year myself. However - I
will
>not be selling off my stuff. Might be starting up a Paris archive/file
>transfer rendering business soon. :) Ha.
>
>-Carl
>
>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:45c660c5$1@linux...
>>
>> I will be leaving PARIS.
>> I am going to go Cubase SX as my main DAW.
>> I love PARIS and really enjoy its GUI, but it
>> is too much trouble for me.
>> I will be selling my rig i the near future.
>> I just need to export WAVs of all my existing ppjs.
>> I will be selling:
>> 2 X EDS Cards
>> 2 X MECs (1 blue , 1 black)
>> 1 - 8 IN
>> 1 - 8 OUT
>> 1 - ADAT CARD
>> 1 - Extra PARIS Cable Kit
>> 1 - PARIS 3.0 and tranfer of license
>> 1 - C16
>> Also...
>> 1 - AKG C3000 mic (mint)
>> 1 - Digiech Studio Vocalist EX Rack Mount (mint)
>> 1 - Brand new EMU sound Card(more on this later)I think 0404.
>>
>> I will post prices later, but it will be what ever they have been going
>for
>> on the FS group.
>> So if anyone want s to lay claim you can speak now.
>>
>> Brandon_Goodwin AT sbcglobal DOT net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>On the Mac with an ATI card the 24" is great at that res. You've seen it
here, I think, last time you were over. Lots of room for Logic windows
and Final Cut.
I have at times run an additional monitor, 17", off of the same graphics
card, works great. It's a different hardware setup than you're talking
about but the monitor combo works nicely.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Anyone here using 24" LCDs at 1920x1200? I'm considering moving to a single
> large main LCD
> with a 17" secondary for misc extra screens (video playback window in
> Nuendo, config screens, etc).
>
> I'm looking around local retailers to try and see one of these at high res,
> but of course, most barely
> even run their display monitors with a clean signal, much less the correct
> resolution.
>
> Any issues with running something like an nVidia card DVI-D or DVI to one -
> such as extra cpu
> overhead that would be problematic for a DAW? Any problems mixing a large
> hi res monitor
> with a 17" at 1280x1024? I'll go PCIe for this obviously.
>
> Thanks,
> Dedric
>
>I thought I remembered you having a 24. it did look great - very
visually efficient.
Splitting the view across two screens just hasn't fit the way I work.
One larger with a secondary makes much more sense.
I need to take a trip to Denver - if not this week, probably the next. I'll
give you a buzz when I know what day.
Regards,
Dedric
On 2/4/07 9:40 PM, in article 45c6b574$1@linux, "Jamie K"
<Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
> On the Mac with an ATI card the 24" is great at that res. You've seen it
> here, I think, last time you were over. Lots of room for Logic windows
> and Final Cut.
>
> I have at times run an additional monitor, 17", off of the same graphics
> card, works great. It's a different hardware setup than you're talking
> about but the monitor combo works nicely.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> Anyone here using 24" LCDs at 1920x1200? I'm considering moving to a single
>> large main LCD
>> with a 17" secondary for misc extra screens (video playback window in
>> Nuendo, config screens, etc).
>>
>> I'm looking around local retailers to try and see one of these at high res,
>> but of course, most barely
>> even run their display monitors with a clean signal, much less the correct
>> resolution.
>>
>> Any issues with running something like an nVidia card DVI-D or DVI to one -
>> such as extra cpu
>> overhead that would be problematic for a DAW? Any problems mixing a large
>> hi res monitor
>> with a 17" at 1280x1024? I'll go PCIe for this obviously.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dedric
>>
>>Thanks Chris - I had wondered if dual link DVI might be an issue.
Regards,
Dedric
On 2/4/07 6:41 PM, in article 45c68bbe$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> Hi Dedric,
> As long as the 24" isn't Dual-Link DVI then you should be fine running
> different resolution monitors.
>
> The card by xfxforce are decent and they have some fan less models. Any
> model 7300GT or above should be fine for that resolution.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>
>> Anyone here using 24" LCDs at 1920x1200? I'm considering moving to a single
>> large main LCD
>> with a 17" secondary for misc extra screens (video playback window in
>> Nuendo, config screens, etc).
>>
>> I'm looking around local retailers to try and see one of these at high res,
>> but of course, most barely
>> even run their display monitors with a
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mailto:carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com" target="_blank">carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>I am planning to migrate sometime perhaps this year myself. However - I
> will
>>not be selling off my stuff. Might be starting up a Paris archive/file
>>transfer rendering business soon. :) Ha.
>>
>>-Carl
>>
>>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:45c660c5$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I will be leaving PARIS.
>>> I am going to go Cubase SX as my main DAW.
>>> I love PARIS and really enjoy its GUI, but it
>>> is too much trouble for me.
>>> I will be selling my rig i the near future.
>>> I just need to export WAVs of all my existing ppjs.
>>> I will be selling:
>>> 2 X EDS Cards
>>> 2 X MECs (1 blue , 1 black)
>>> 1 - 8 IN
>>> 1 - 8 OUT
>>> 1 - ADAT CARD
>>> 1 - Extra PARIS Cable Kit
>>> 1 - PARIS 3.0 and tranfer of license
>>> 1 - C16
>>> Also...
>>> 1 - AKG C3000 mic (mint)
>>> 1 - Digiech Studio Vocalist EX Rack Mount (mint)
>>> 1 - Brand new EMU sound Card(more on this later)I think 0404.
>>>
>>> I will post prices later, but it will be what ever they have been going
>>for
>>> on the FS group.
>>> So if anyone want s to lay claim you can speak now.
>>>
>>> Brandon_Goodwin AT sbcglobal DOT net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Dedric Terry wrote:
> I thought I remembered you having a 24. it did look great - very
> visually efficient.
>
> Splitting the view across two screens just hasn't fit the way I work.
> One larger with a secondary makes much more sense.
>
> I need to take a trip to Denver - if not this week, probably the next. I'll
> give you a buzz when I know what day.
Cool, looking forward to it Dedric! I have some other things to show
you, too...
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
> Regards,
> Dedric
>
> On 2/4/07 9:40 PM, in article 45c6b574$1@linux, "Jamie K"
> <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>> On the Mac with an ATI card the 24" is great at that res. You've seen it
>> here, I think, last time you were over. Lots of room for Logic windows
>> and Final Cut.
>>
>> I have at times run an additional monitor, 17", off of the same graphics
>> card, works great. It's a different hardware setup than you're talking
>> about but the monitor combo works nicely.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> Dedric Terry wrote:
>>> Anyone here using 24" LCDs at 1920x1200? I'm considering moving to a single
>>> large main LCD
>>> with a 17" secondary for misc extra screens (video playback window in
>>> Nuendo, config screens, etc).
>>>
>>> I'm looking around local retailers to try and see one of these at high res,
>>> but of course, most barely
>>> even run their display monitors with a clean signal, much less the correct
>>> resolution.
>>>
>>> Any issues with running something like an nVidia card DVI-D or DVI to one -
>>> such as extra cpu
>>> overhead that would be problematic for a DAW? Any problems mixing a large
>>> hi res monitor
>>> with a 17" at 1280x1024? I'll go PCIe for this obviously.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dedric
>>>
>>>
>Slightly related... I don't know if anyone saw his purple majesty on SNL last
year. His performance was incredible, the thing that was blowing my mind
was his guitar work. I don't know how it's possible, but he got even better.
Chuck
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>
>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>
>rock on,
>-Carl
>
>Thad,
I don't think people who don't use linux understand the current state of
the linux union. Besides the fact that most of the web runs on it, and that
IBM has bet the farm on linux - the desktop is pretty hot now too.
Consider the latest bootable ISO distros (run from CD). I mounted the MEPIS
ISO in a VM, booted and five minutes later linux was up and running. There
was an icon on the desktop that said install me. I was happily browsing
the web via a wireless network card in firefox WHILE the OS was installing!
The other thing to consider is that vendors rarely have answers to complex
problems, while google groups and the linux sites almost always do.
Chuck
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>The spectacular ignorance of this deserves no response, but nevertheless
I
>will. Whenever I read something like this I wish the person making the statement
>would be forced to live without free software. That all their web servers
>would run IIS and none of their networking protocols would work and all
of
>their media would be mercilessly DRM'd and ever file type completely proprietary.
>Sadly, that doesn't happen, and people say things like this.
>
>Just FYI - as one who installs new machines all the time, even with an image
>that lets me have most apps pre-installed an XP setup on a new machine takes
>3X as long as a linux setup. A base Ubuntu install can be done in 30-45
minutes
>and includes everything 95% of the public would need to use a computer,
save
>a media player because of licensing issues. This includes web browsing and
>authoring tools, high quality image editing, an office suite, and an email/contact/scheduling
>app. And it's patched and secure.
>
>TCB
>
>"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>Just ike Linux... nobody (software and hardware) will suport it... so it
>is
>>just another OS.
>>
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>
>>
>I'm always amazed at how two people can see totally different things. First
I hate medleys. Play 2 songs in full for 10 mins and I'm happy. I also
thought his hendrix section was lousy and even I can do better than that.
I could not hear drums at all till the end it was all guitar 90% of the
time and I really am not impressed. I got so exicted when he took his dew
rag off though. (kidding). Different strokes for different strokes.DJ,
Yeah I am just frustrated with PARIS.
Even if it was rock solid I am tired of all the worarounds.
I need to simplify to bring back some of the inspiration.
It could be something simple like a bad plugin or something..
but that doesnt really matter I am looking for more capability
with less effort.
I appreciate your offer though.
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c6cd89$1@linux...
> Brandon, If you want try to hang on, I can probably build you another
system
> like the one I was talking about out of backup components here. I have the
> system drive image Ghosted so I could basically recreate the wheel, if
> you're interested. I would guaranted it to work, just like the other one.
>
> This is a tried and true setup for Paris. It sounds to me like you've got
> some sort of major hardware/incompatibility problem if your Paris rig is
> unstable. Unless it's your Paris hardware or some peripheral device you've
> been using, this setup should work flawlessly.
>
> If you're frustrated by Paris itself, that's one thing, but if you're just
> having stability problems, that should be easy to remedy.
>
> Regards,
>
> DJ
> animix at animas dot net
>
>
> "Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:45c6b0c9$1@linux...
> >
> > Yeah not looking forward to exporting all those files.
> > B
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> >>I am planning to migrate sometime perhaps this year myself. However - I
> > will
> >>not be selling off my stuff. Might be starting up a Paris archive/file
> >>transfer rendering business soon. :) Ha.
> >>
> >>-Carl
> >>
> >>"Brandon" <A@A.com> wrote in message news:45c660c5$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>> I will be leaving PARIS.
> >>> I am going to go Cubase SX as my main DAW.
> >>> I love PARIS and really enjoy its GUI, but it
> >>> is too much trouble for me.
> >>> I will be selling my rig i the near future.
> >>> I just need to export WAVs of all my existing ppjs.
> >>> I will be selling:
> >>> 2 X EDS Cards
> >>> 2 X MECs (1 blue , 1 black)
> >>> 1 - 8 IN
> >>> 1 - 8 OUT
> >>> 1 - ADAT CARD
> >>> 1 - Extra PARIS Cable Kit
> >>> 1 - PARIS 3.0 and tranfer of license
> >>> 1 - C16
> >>> Also...
> >>> 1 - AKG C3000 mic (mint)
> >>> 1 - Digiech Studio Vocalist EX Rack Mount (mint)
> >>> 1 - Brand new EMU sound Card(more on this later)I think 0404.
> >>>
> >>> I will post prices later, but it will be what ever they have been
going
> >>for
> >>> on the FS group.
> >>> So if anyone want s to lay claim you can speak now.
> >>>
> >>> Brandon_Goodwin AT sbcglobal DOT net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>This is only moderately related to Paris at all...
I am still a novice user (after owning Paris for 10 years!), and will be
recording a demo for some friends in a band. Nothing too elaborate... (and I
hate to admit it, but demos are all I ever achieved with my Paris setup... I
thought I'd do more, but never did, and probably never will).
Anyhow, the male singer was asking about processing the vocals... he'd like
to get some sort of heavily altered sound like Phil Collins... and I have
never done anything like that. I can almost hear the "Phil Collins" effects,
but I can't even begin to imagine how to achieve it. I know there's a lot of
reverb, but there's a lot of other stuff too...
Anyone know of a good (preferably web) reference for this type of info? Or
if any of you wizzards have done this exact same sort of processing in the
past, and are willing to share the recipe, I would be forever grateful...
Much appreciate any tips or pointers.
DanielI would think along the lines of a vocoder.
Delay.
Maybe some reverse reverb???
You could always hire Phil.
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote in message news:45c74163@linux...
> This is only moderately related to Paris at all...
>
> I am still a novice user (after owning Paris for 10 years!), and will be
> recording a demo for some friends in a band. Nothing too elaborate... (and
I
> hate to admit it, but demos are all I ever achieved with my Paris setup...
I
> thought I'd do more, but never did, and probably never will).
>
> Anyhow, the male singer was asking about processing the vocals... he'd
like
> to get some sort of heavily altered sound like Phil Collins... and I have
> never done anything like that. I can almost hear the "Phil Collins"
effects,
> but I can't even begin to imagine how to achieve it. I know there's a lot
of
> reverb, but there's a lot of other stuff too...
>
> Anyone know of a good (preferably web) reference for this type of info? Or
> if any of you wizzards have done this exact same sort of processing in the
> past, and are willing to share the recipe, I would be forever grateful...
>
> Much appreciate any tips or pointers.
>
> Daniel
>
>I think he actually used a phaser on the vocals on some of his stuff, didn't
he? Paris has a phaser. there is also an inverse reverb plugin in Paris that
works great for wierd ****.
;o)
"D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote in message news:45c74163@linux...
> This is only moderately related to Paris at all...
>
> I am still a novice user (after owning Paris for 10 years!), and will be
> recording a demo for some friends in a band. Nothing too elaborate... (and
> I hate to admit it, but demos are all I ever achieved with my Paris
> setup... I thought I'd do more, but never did, and probably never will).
>
> Anyhow, the male singer was asking about processing the vocals... he'd
> like to get some sort of heavily altered sound like Phil Collins... and I
> have never done anything like that. I can almost hear the "Phil Collins"
> effects, but I can't even begin to imagine how to achieve it. I know
> there's a lot of reverb, but there's a lot of other stuff too...
>
> Anyone know of a good (preferably web) reference for this type of info? Or
> if any of you wizzards have done this exact same sort of processing in the
> past, and are willing to share the recipe, I would be forever grateful...
>
> Much appreciate any tips or pointers.
>
> Daniel
>Hi Chuck,
The first time I ran Ubuntu I didn't even realize it was loading of the
CD instead of being installed!! Until I removed the CD then Windows ME
started to boot!!!
Yuck.
Actually decided to click the right button and install it on the HD.
About 10 min till it was up and running.
For everything outside of pro audio, video and gaming it had everything
I would need for general computer use.
Chris
chuck duffy wrote:
>Thad,
>
>I don't think people who don't use linux understand the current state of
>the linux union. Besides the fact that most of the web runs on it, and that
>IBM has bet the farm on linux - the desktop is pretty hot now too.
>
>Consider the latest bootable ISO distros (run from CD). I mounted the MEPIS
>ISO in a VM, booted and five minutes later linux was up and running. There
>was an icon on the desktop that said install me. I was happily browsing
>the web via a wireless network card in firefox WHILE the OS was installing!
>
>The other thing to consider is that vendors rarely have answers to complex
>problems, while google groups and the linux sites almost always do.
>
>Chuck
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>
>>The spectacular ignorance of this deserves no response, but nevertheless
>>
>>
>I
>
>
>>will. Whenever I read something like this I wish the person making the statement
>>would be forced to live without free software. That all their web servers
>>would run IIS and none of their networking protocols would work and all
>>
>>
>of
>
>
>>their media would be mercilessly DRM'd and ever file type completely proprietary.
>>Sadly, that doesn't happen, and people say things like this.
>>
>>Just FYI - as one who installs new machines all the time, even with an image
>>that lets me have most apps pre-installed an XP setup on a new machine takes
>>3X as long as a linux setup. A base Ubuntu install can be done in 30-45
>>
>>
>minutes
>
>
>>and includes everything 95% of the public would need to use a computer,
>>
>>
>save
>
>
>>a media player because of licensing issues. This includes web browsing and
>>authoring tools, high quality image editing, an office suite, and an email/contact/scheduling
>>app. And it's patched and secure.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Just ike Linux... nobody (software and hardware) will suport it... so it
>>>
>>>
>>is
>>
>>
>>>just another OS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Inverse Reverb Plug?
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c74508@linux...
> I think he actually used a phaser on the vocals on some of his stuff,
didn't
> he? Paris has a phaser. there is also an inverse reverb plugin in Paris
that
> works great for wierd ****.
>
> ;o)
>
> "D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote in message news:45c74163@linux...
> > This is only moderately related to Paris at all...
> >
> > I am still a novice user (after owning Paris for 10 years!), and will be
> > recording a demo for some friends in a band. Nothing too elaborate...
(and
> > I hate to admit it, but demos are all I ever achieved with my Paris
> > setup... I thought I'd do more, but never did, and probably never will).
> >
> > Anyhow, the male singer was asking about processing the vocals... he'd
> > like to get some sort of heavily altered sound like Phil Collins... and
I
> > have never done anything like that. I can almost hear the "Phil Collins"
> > effects, but I can't even begin to imagine how to achieve it. I know
> > there's a lot of reverb, but there's a lot of other stuff too...
> >
> > Anyone know of a good (preferably web) reference for this type of info?
Or
> > if any of you wizzards have done this exact same sort of processing in
the
> > past, and are willing to share the recipe, I would be forever
grateful...
> >
> > Much appreciate any tips or pointers.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
>
>Hi guys
Cubase newbie here
just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in Cubase...I
tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at "0" and I see the graph
showing up after the vocals start...about a 1/2 second or so.
Am I missing something here?
DOnI'm always amazed at how.....I will not get into it.
Stop hating! Prince is the real deal. Just post your Hendrix section for
us to be the judge. I'm always amazed.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I'm always amazed at how two people can see totally different things. First
>I hate medleys. Play 2 songs in full for 10 mins and I'm happy. I also
>thought his hendrix section was lousy and even I can do better than that.
> I could not hear drums at all till the end it was all guitar 90% of the
>time and I really am not impressed. I got so exicted when he took his dew
>rag off though. (kidding). Different strokes for different strokes.I too heard the Billy Joel autotune, and felt really bad for those poor US
soldiers they kept showing. As if it weren't bad enough to send them to get
shot at for no reason anyone has yet been able to explain, then we make them
listen to Billy Joel.
In defense of Mr. Joel and the autotuning, our national anthem was clearly
written by someone who had never tried to sing. The range is truly murder--I
can barely sing it and my voice has a much wider range than most. My guess
is Mr. Scott Key was planning on the violin section playing the melody or
something.
TCB
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>
>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>
>rock on,
>-Carl
>
>What Chris said. I use a fanless 7200GT and it works like a charm with a 24"
Dell monitor. Though I've been eying the 30" model to be honest. I don't
have space for another 24 but do have room for more display.
TCB
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Dedric,
>As long as the 24" isn't Dual-Link DVI then you should be fine running
>different resolution monitors.
>
>The card by xfxforce are decent and they have some fan less models. Any
>model 7300GT or above should be fine for that resolution.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Dedric Terry wrote:
>
>>Anyone here using 24" LCDs at 1920x1200? I'm considering moving to a single
>>large main LCD
>>with a 17" secondary for misc extra screens (video playback window in
>>Nuendo, config screens, etc).
>>
>>I'm looking around local retailers to try and see one of these at high
res,
>>but of course, most barely
>>even run their display monitors with a clean signal, much less the correct
>>resolution.
>>
>>Any issues with running something like an nVidia card DVI-D or DVI to one
-
>>such as extra cpu
>>overhead that would be problematic for a DAW? Any problems mixing a large
>>hi res monitor
>>with a 17" at 1280x1024? I'll go PCIe for this obviously.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dedric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Daniel,
Do I recall correctly that you have the Waves Platinum bundle? If you do,
you have plenty of tools. Phil did not have one vocal sound, but rather played
around and found different effects for different songs.
If the vocals are reasonably well leveled, I would try putting some effects
like Enigma or MetaFlanger on first and then pass the whole mess through
Renaissance Vox. I would do this on a stereo vocal track (by duplicating),
then render the effected tracks using the SPDIF loop method, time align the
effected tracks and mix the effected tracks back in with the original mono
vocal.
If the original vocals were not well leveled, I would do an automation pass
first and render that, or compress first, before I applied the rest of this
technique.
Actually, I would do this with two computers and an adat loop to get it in
real time, Dimitrios would probably use Cinderella and Chainer to get similar
results on one PC in real time, but any variation of these methods should
work. If you don’t have the Waves plugs, I would try any combination of echo,
and chorus/flange.
Gene
"D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote:
>This is only moderately related to Paris at all...
>
>I am still a novice user (after owning Paris for 10 years!), and will be
>recording a demo for some friends in a band. Nothing too elaborate... (and
I
>hate to admit it, but demos are all I ever achieved with my Paris setup...
I
>thought I'd do more, but never did, and probably never will).
>
>Anyhow, the male singer was asking about processing the vocals... he'd like
>to get some sort of heavily altered sound like Phil Collins... and I have
>never done anything like that. I can almost hear the "Phil Collins" effects,
>but I can't even begin to imagine how to achieve it. I know there's a lot
of
>reverb, but there's a lot of other stuff too...
>
>Anyone know of a good (preferably web) reference for this type of info?
Or
>if any of you wizzards have done this exact same sort of processing in the
>past, and are willing to share the recipe, I would be forever grateful...
>
>Much appreciate any tips or pointers.
>
>Daniel
>
>The Dual core will be the issue here... I don't know if anyone has had
success getting it to work properly. I am not sure if it even possible
to turn off HT on this chip.
David.
Piper wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2, Nvida...
> Fresh XP home install.
>
> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first, etc.
>
> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start, crashes
> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>
> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>
> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>
> PiperI don't hate him, i'm just saying he doesn't do it for me and that the Hendrix
thing was lame.I think Prince is extremely talented. Naturally, you can’t have a Super Bowl
half time without a little of the “Debbie Allen” effect, but he was far better
than most.
The mix was unfortunate, but with the rain, I wouldn’t be surprised if they
lost the main mix feed and we were listening to a sage monitor mix. If not,
I’m certain some technical problems were involved. Anything is possible
in that environment. All the more reason to give him credit for pulling
it off in the pouring rain.
Gene
"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>
>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>
>rock on,
>-Carl
>
>Yeah, I'm a debian guy so my live CD of choice is Knoppix (also, I can read
German which can be helpful), but I understand exactly what you're saying.
As a computer geek I am often asked to fix peoples' broken computers. I have
a stripped down Knoppix install that boots off a 4 GB pen drive I have on
my keychain. Whenever people see it they ask what I'm doing and I show them
what a live linux boot CD looks like. Everyone seems to think it's some geek
extravaganza (which, of course, it can be) but it can also be just a nice
computer.
Somewhere there was an article that I read once talking about Windows boxes
vs. Apple boxes vs. linux boxes and compared them to cars. The writer said
that at the Windows dealership all they sell are ugly station wagons. They
worked OK most of the time and are cheap and pretty much everyone buys them.
The Mac dealership across the street is selling sporty European cars that
look really nice and cost a little more. Then down the block was this big
parking lot with giant tanks that ran 100 mph, could drive through walls,
used waste paper for fuel, that almost never broke down and whenever they
did some really smart mechanic would show up and fix them for free. Oh, and
the keys were in the ignition and a big sign on the side said 'TAKE ONE,
KEEP IT IF YOU LIKE.' And everyone lines up to buy a station wagons or an
expensive Mercedes anyway.
TCB
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Thad,
>
>I don't think people who don't use linux understand the current state of
>the linux union. Besides the fact that most of the web runs on it, and
that
>IBM has bet the farm on linux - the desktop is pretty hot now too.
>
>Consider the latest bootable ISO distros (run from CD). I mounted the MEPIS
>ISO in a VM, booted and five minutes later linux was up and running. There
>was an icon on the desktop that said install me. I was happily browsing
>the web via a wireless network card in firefox WHILE the OS was installing!
>
>The other thing to consider is that vendors rarely have answers to complex
>problems, while google groups and the linux sites almost always do.
>
>Chuck
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>The spectacular ignorance of this deserves no response, but nevertheless
>I
>>will. Whenever I read something like this I wish the person making the
statement
>>would be forced to live without free software. That all their web servers
>>would run IIS and none of their networking protocols would work and all
>of
>>their media would be mercilessly DRM'd and ever file type completely proprietary.
>>Sadly, that doesn't happen, and people say things like this.
>>
>>Just FYI - as one who installs new machines all the time, even with an
image
>>that lets me have most apps pre-installed an XP setup on a new machine
takes
>>3X as long as a linux setup. A base Ubuntu install can be done in 30-45
>minutes
>>and includes everything 95% of the public would need to use a computer,
>save
>>a media player because of licensing issues. This includes web browsing
and
>>authoring tools, high quality image editing, an office suite, and an email/contact/scheduling
>>app. And it's patched and secure.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Ed" <AskMe@email.com> wrote:
>>>Just ike Linux... nobody (software and hardware) will suport it... so
it
>>is
>>>just another OS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:45c25f89$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>>>
>>>
>>
>The mix sucked entirely. It was all guitar, and when he'd drop
out (often) there was nothing else going on to cover. He's
pretty fast with a few licks, but he has no sense of melody on
guitar - which amazes me, because he obviously does with
everything else. I just don't like that <fast lick/noise/fast
lick/atonal crap/fast lick/bad note/more noise> style of playing.
Neil
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>
>I think Prince is extremely talented. Naturally, you can’t have a Super
Bowl
>half time without a little of the “Debbie Allen” effect, but he was far
better
>than most.
>
>The mix was unfortunate, but with the rain, I wouldn’t be surprised if they
>lost the main mix feed and we were listening to a sage monitor mix. If not,
>I’m certain some technical problems were involved. Anything is possible
>in that environment. All the more reason to give him credit for pulling
>it off in the pouring rain.
>
>Gene
>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>>
>>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>>
>>rock on,
>>-Carl
>>
>>
>If you haven't tried it yet... I purchased Melodyne and in my book it BLOWS
AutoTune out of the water. I'm so pumped on this plug-in. It doesn't add
the funky synthy sound to the voice like Autotune does when it pitch
corrects. Also the interface is SO friendly. I use it in Cubase SX4 with
no problems.
http://www.celemony.com:16080/cms/
The demo is worth trying out.
"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45c750e7@linux...
> Hi guys
>
> Cubase newbie here
>
> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in Cubase...I
> tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at "0" and I see the
> graph showing up after the vocals start...about a 1/2 second or so.
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> DOn
>The melody is from an old English drinking song. It wasn't meant to be
sung in tune. ;^)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> I too heard the Billy Joel autotune, and felt really bad for those poor US
> soldiers they kept showing. As if it weren't bad enough to send them to get
> shot at for no reason anyone has yet been able to explain, then we make them
> listen to Billy Joel.
>
> In defense of Mr. Joel and the autotuning, our national anthem was clearly
> written by someone who had never tried to sing. The range is truly murder--I
> can barely sing it and my voice has a much wider range than most. My guess
> is Mr. Scott Key was planning on the violin section playing the melody or
> something.
>
> TCB
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be a
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> The demo is worth trying out.
>
>
>
>
> "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:45c750e7@linux...
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Cubase newbie here
>>
>> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in Cubase...I
>> tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at "0" and I see the
>> graph showing up after the vocals start...about a 1/2 second or so.
>>
>> Am I missing something here?
>>
>> DOn
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comHaven't tried it but I think only the newest VST version of autotune has
a functional graphical mode.
Chris
Don Nafe wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> Cubase newbie here
>
> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in Cubase...I
> tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at "0" and I see the graph
> showing up after the vocals start...about a 1/2 second or so.
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
> DOn
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.comThat's my feeling exactly but I liked his prince shaped guitar. I was hoping
he would give them away to the crowd. ;-)
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>The mix sucked entirely. It was all guitar, and when he'd drop
>out (often) there was nothing else going on to cover. He's
>pretty fast with a few licks, but he has no sense of melody on
>guitar - which amazes me, because he obviously does with
>everything else. I just don't like that <fast lick/noise/fast
>lick/atonal crap/fast lick/bad note/more noise> style of playing.
>
>Neil
>
>"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>I think Prince is extremely talented. Naturally, you can’t have a Super
>Bowl
>>half time without a little of the “Debbie Allen” effect, but he was far
>better
>>than most.
>>
>>The mix was unfortunate, but with the rain, I wouldn’t be surprised if
they
>>lost the main mix feed and we were listening to a sage monitor mix. If
not,
>>I’m certain some technical problems were involved. Anything is possible
>>in that environment. All the more reason to give him credit for pulling
>>it off in the pouring rain.
>>
>>Gene
>>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>>>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>>>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>>>
>>>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>>>
>>>rock on,
>>>-Carl
>>>
>>>
>>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c36a7b$1@linux...
> By FAR the largest barrier to normal people using linux is the lack of
> drivers
> for video cards and wireless network cards (and increasingly, onboard
> ethernet)
> at install time.
Absolutely! Of course, I think the second barrier is that many of the apps
that I (and many others) use do not work under Linux. I'm still a firm
believer in the idea of picking the application before picking the OS. For
example, I don't care how zealous you are about Ardour, it just doesn't
compare to Cakewalk, Cubase, DP, Logic, ProTools, Samplitude, etc. (And
what about that PARIS thAng?) Because I have picked applications before
operating systems, I am now running three different operating systems on my
personal computers, and five different operating systems at work. So
what...! They're all so similar any more, it doesn't matter.
<troll>
I'm still a firm believer that "free" software has never been completely
free - every major oss project that I know of was funded by DARPA, some
university grant, IBM, or some other funding entity. Of COURSE IBM likes
Apache and Linux - it's not benevolent, it's opportunistic! They get to
throw a little bit of money at a bunch of naive zealots who love them for
it, while they make HUGE profits off of the work! Wake up and smell the
coffee open source developers! You're getting screwed!
</troll>
I'm reading an interesting book, "WIKINOMICS, How Mass Collaboration Changes
Everything" - it is definitely the "feel good open source book of the
summer". Check it out if you're a linux/open source fan - it's a great
piece of apologetics, but I think it's just preaching to the choir. What I
think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed a
"religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions to
jump ship and join you...
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.comOne of the TC-Helicon boxes would work well for that.
Cheers,
TC
D.P. wrote:
> This is only moderately related to Paris at all...
>
> I am still a novice user (after owning Paris for 10 years!), and will be
> recording a demo for some friends in a band. Nothing too elaborate... (and I
> hate to admit it, but demos are all I ever achieved with my Paris setup... I
> thought I'd do more, but never did, and probably never will).
>
> Anyhow, the male singer was asking about processing the vocals... he'd like
> to get some sort of heavily altered sound like Phil Collins... and I have
> never done anything like that. I can almost hear the "Phil Collins" effects,
> but I can't even begin to imagine how to achieve it. I know there's a lot of
> reverb, but there's a lot of other stuff too...
>
> Anyone know of a good (preferably web) reference for this type of info? Or
> if any of you wizzards have done this exact same sort of processing in the
> past, and are willing to share the recipe, I would be forever grateful...
>
> Much appreciate any tips or pointers.
>
> Daniel
>
>"Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote in message
news:45c6ab50@linux...
> Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
> decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
> tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>
> Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
>
> rock on,
> -Carl
>
>
It was very robotic sounding.
This was just a notch above lip-synching IMHO.
dbOK, so here's the story on the laptop I've mentioned a few times. I decided
a few months back I wanted to add a basic, two turntable DJ setup to my studio.
Partially it was for me, just because I enjoy spinning vinyl more than I
enjoy most things. Partially it's because for the kind of music I do a pair
of battered up Technics 1200s gives the kind of instant cred for a visitor
that a rack full of Crane Songs will for most of you guys.
Now then, my actual vinyl collection is pretty weak, and I'd been seeing
a lot of my DJ friends switching over to timecode based systems, either CD
or vinyl based timecode triggering digital source files--MP3, OGG, or WAV
mostly. One friend in particular liked a simple (and cheap) shareware app
called djdecks (www.djdecks.be) that could be controlled using either Final
Scratch or Serato Scratch Live vinyl. I also decided it would be nice for
the system to be self contained and possibly portable so I could spin live
at some point.
Having seen my work laptop crash off a stand (with my code and everything
on it) I decided to try a cheap laptop. So I bought the crappiest, cheapest,
most 'couldn't care less if someone spills a mojito into it laptop' I could
find. An ACER Sempron 3400 based piece o' crap that was $550 from Newegg.
ATI 1100 integrated chipset, shared video memory, basically everything you
don't want in a laptop. Out of the box it was a SHOCKINGLY awful computer,
even I figured initially I had made a mistake. Yeah, all new machines come
loaded with crap, but this seemed to be beyond that by far. Nevertheless,
I did a quick image of it to save the drivers (unnecessary, actually, the
ACER site has the drivers when the site is up) and installed a vanilla XP
SP2 setup. Patched it, did all of the usual stuff.
Massive difference right then. Seemed like a laptop again, felt like a 2
Ghz machine or so. Stuffed 2 GB of memory into it, replaced the drive with
a 120 GB Seagate. Then, finally, the real test. Installed an RME Cardbus
card and an RPM and started working with it. Rock effin solid for DAYS of
use. And as far as I'm concerned live timecode vinyl manipulation (with the
buffers set to the lowest possible in the RME config) is pretty demanding
real time usage.
So, I now use and endorse crappy ACER laptops for audio use, especially if
the cost of the added on hardware double the cost of the portable.
BTW - FLAC kicks serious amounts of ass as well.
TCBI think he's done it once or twice before..... ;)
-Carl
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote in message news:45c71a42$1@linux...
>
> Slightly related... I don't know if anyone saw his purple majesty on SNL
last
> year. His performance was incredible, the thing that was blowing my mind
> was his guitar work. I don't know how it's possible, but he got even
better.
>
>
> Chuck
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> >Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
> >decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
> >tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
> >
> >Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
> >
> >rock on,
> >-Carl
> >
> >
>Hi,
I jumped over to Paris one year ago.
By then I was struggkling for years and years with Cubase from Cubase VST32
over to Cubase 5 over to SX ...
I was never being able to achieve professional results like the platinum
selling mixes and was straining to make a mix satisfying to my ears (at least).
Putting numerous compressor ,sometimes on each channel , driving me crazy
to make things distinguished one from other inside a mix.
Even when I bought me the pulsars ,although way better results the combiantion
of Pulsar and SX did not quite did it...
Then when I got me Paris something revealing arose.
With good efforts I can make a great mix I can make the cklient happy and
the killer paris_Pulsar combination is the way to go for me.
Here is one suggestion before you leave Paris.
Buy one Pulsar card ,6 dsp is fine.
Keep a couple of mecs , or three like me, or four like I wanna be when I
grow...
Attach the adats to Pulsar adats and use the mixer -routing effecting possibilities
from inside Pulsar.
Pulsar has great compressors, Timeworks is a brilliant example, has The SPL
transient designer (what a plugin !!) has vinco compressor (1176) timeworks
fantastic vintage eq, and has the greatest third party effects (many are
free) of any platform.
Now use your Paris ONLY for mixing leveling eq'ing.
Disable DX disable VST (although vertex is a must !)
So better disable DX (you don't need them !! believe me)at least inside Paris,
and use ONLY the vertex group manager , latency compensator on every channel,
EXTREMELY stable without any wrapper, this guy knows how to program !
Then using the adat ports send a track over to scope put a Compressor X or
Vinco compressor, put maybe a SPL transient designer plugin for extra punch,some
great reverb like Masterverb Pro or Timeworks 4080L and send it back.
Do you wanna know the latency from Paris to Scope-To Compressor to paris
again ?
27 samples !!
yes 27.
Now if that is much use vertex and it sounds realtime.
A heavy load of Compressor plus Designer plus Eq gives you a 74 samples latency
!
Less than 1ms nudge in Paris.
use vertex again or nudge back.
Your Paris will never crash cause no DX plugin will cause it.
Ok the editing has some bugs but you know them ...
I will hold on with Paris until I will be the last obne here.
Regards,
DimitriosThere's no excuse for that man. It was just ....well, stupid engineering.
You don't have to set the autotune so harsh - Joel is capable of singing it,
and I think most people would rather hear a note or two drift around rather
than listen to a vocoder - for the national anthem, p l e a s e.
And, that is what made me appreciate Prince's performance (guitar mix and
all) more - was the fact that I could tell it was the real deal with no
lame-ass crap a là Mr Joel. Purple Rain - *in* the rain??? C'mon, you gotta
love that.....
-Carl
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c75456$1@linux...
>
> I too heard the Billy Joel autotune, and felt really bad for those poor US
> soldiers they kept showing. As if it weren't bad enough to send them to
get
> shot at for no reason anyone has yet been able to explain, then we make
them
> listen to Billy Joel.
>
> In defense of Mr. Joel and the autotuning, our national anthem was clearly
> written by someone who had never tried to sing. The range is truly
murder--I
> can barely sing it and my voice has a much wider range than most. My guess
> is Mr. Scott Key was planning on the violin section playing the melody or
> something.
>
> TCB
>
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> >Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
> >decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
> >tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
> >
> >Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real deal.
> >
> >rock on,
> >-Carl
> >
> >
>Hi I am looking for way deep 1u rack enclosure for project devices like mike
preamps..
Any place with good prices ?
Thanks
DimitriosSorry.I meant the non-linear reverb. It's a Paris effect.
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:45c74887@linux...
> Inverse Reverb Plug?
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45c74508@linux...
>> I think he actually used a phaser on the vocals on some of his stuff,
> didn't
>> he? Paris has a phaser. there is also an inverse reverb plugin in Paris
> that
>> works great for wierd ****.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>> "D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote in message news:45c74163@linux...
>> > This is only moderately related to Paris at all...
>> >
>> > I am still a novice user (after owning Paris for 10 years!), and will
>> > be
>> > recording a demo for some friends in a band. Nothing too elaborate...
> (and
>> > I hate to admit it, but demos are all I ever achieved with my Paris
>> > setup... I thought I'd do more, but never did, and probably never
>> > will).
>> >
>> > Anyhow, the male singer was asking about processing the vocals... he'd
>> > like to get some sort of heavily altered sound like Phil Collins... and
> I
>> > have never done anything like that. I can almost hear the "Phil
>> > Collins"
>> > effects, but I can't even begin to imagine how to achieve it. I know
>> > there's a lot of reverb, but there's a lot of other stuff too...
>> >
>> > Anyone know of a good (preferably web) reference for this type of info?
> Or
>> > if any of you wizzards have done this exact same sort of processing in
> the
>> > past, and are willing to share the recipe, I would be forever
> grateful...
>> >
>> > Much appreciate any tips or pointers.
>> >
>> > Daniel
>> >
>>
>>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c61ddf$1@linux...
> I use a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice monitor.
I'm using a dual 24" Dell setup at work. We even have three visualization
walls that each have 15 (!) of the 24" Dells in a three row by five column
arrangement.
Doug (And yes, we're using Linux on them...) ;-)
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on the other (start off with something small, like 2 or 3 cents,
then adjust from there, if needed).
2.) If your pitch shifter will also delay the effect, then set
each for a slight slapback, if not, use a slapack delay
separately. Delay on the pitch shift itself is best, though.
3.) Big, short verb (sometimes gated, sometimes not). Don't
overdo it though.
4.) Longer, more subtle verb to taste, depending on the song.
5.) If you're also talking about the distortion effect, then
a cloned vox track with an exciter, followed by a compressor
will do the trick there. Lots of exciter, then compress it
pretty hard then just introduce a little bit of that & you're
good to go. De-ess this track all to hell.
Don't know if that's how they did it, but I've had to get that
sound before & that's what worked in that instance.
Neil
"D.P." <ottawarocks@netscape.net> wrote:
>This is only moderately related to Paris at all...
>
>I am still a novice user (after owning Paris for 10 years!), and will be
>recording a demo for some friends in a band. Nothing too elaborate... (and
I
>hate to admit it, but demos are all I ever achieved with my Paris setup...
I
>thought I'd do more, but never did, and probably never will).
>
>Anyhow, the male singer was asking about processing the vocals... he'd like
>to get some sort of heavily altered sound like Phil Collins... and I have
>never done anything like that. I can almost hear the "Phil Collins" effects,
>but I can't even begin to imagine how to achieve it. I know there's a lot
of
>reverb, but there's a lot of other stuff too...
>
>Anyone know of a good (preferably web) reference for this type of info?
Or
>if any of you wizzards have done this exact same sort of processing in the
>past, and are willing to share the recipe, I would be forever grateful...
>
>Much appreciate any tips or pointers.
>
>Daniel
>
>One thing for sure, Cubase can't beat the Paris sound :-)
Bjorn R
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45c76c1d$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I jumped over to Paris one year ago.
> By then I was struggkling for years and years with Cubase from Cubase
VST32
> over to Cubase 5 over to SX ...
> I was never being able to achieve professional results like the platinum
> selling mixes and was straining to make a mix satisfying to my ears (at
least).
> Putting numerous compressor ,sometimes on each channel , driving me crazy
> to make things distinguished one from other inside a mix.
> Even when I bought me the pulsars ,although way better results the
combiantion
> of Pulsar and SX did not quite did it...
> Then when I got me Paris something revealing arose.
> With good efforts I can make a great mix I can make the cklient happy and
> the killer paris_Pulsar combination is the way to go for me.
> Here is one suggestion before you leave Paris.
> Buy one Pulsar card ,6 dsp is fine.
> Keep a couple of mecs , or three like me, or four like I wanna be when I
> grow...
> Attach the adats to Pulsar adats and use the mixer -routing effecting
possibilities
> from inside Pulsar.
> Pulsar has great compressors, Timeworks is a brilliant example, has The
SPL
> transient designer (what a plugin !!) has vinco compressor (1176)
timeworks
> fantastic vintage eq, and has the greatest third party effects (many are
> free) of any platform.
> Now use your Paris ONLY for mixing leveling eq'ing.
> Disable DX disable VST (although vertex is a must !)
> So better disable DX (you don't need them !! believe me)at least inside
Paris,
> and use ONLY the vertex group manager , latency compensator on every
channel,
> EXTREMELY stable without any wrapper, this guy knows how to program !
> Then using the adat ports send a track over to scope put a Compressor X or
> Vinco compressor, put maybe a SPL transient designer plugin for extra
punch,some
> great reverb like Masterverb Pro or Timeworks 4080L and send it back.
> Do you wanna know the latency from Paris to Scope-To Compressor to paris
> again ?
> 27 samples !!
> yes 27.
> Now if that is much use vertex and it sounds realtime.
> A heavy load of Compressor plus Designer plus Eq gives you a 74 samples
latency
> !
> Less than 1ms nudge in Paris.
> use vertex again or nudge back.
> Your Paris will never crash cause no DX plugin will cause it.
> Ok the editing has some bugs but you know them ...
> I will hold on with Paris until I will be the last obne here.
> Regards,
> Dimitrios"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>
>http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
It's an updated version of Be OS. Be OS is the operating system used in iZ's
RADAR. If you're using RADAR you're essentially using it already.Don't be so sure. I'm very impressed with my presonus digimax fs pres and
cubase 4.
"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>One thing for sure, Cubase can't beat the Paris sound :-)
>
>Bjorn R
>
>
>
>"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:45c76c1d$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi,
>> I jumped over to Paris one year ago.
>> By then I was struggkling for years and years with Cubase from Cubase
>VST32
>> over to Cubase 5 over to SX ...
>> I was never being able to achieve professional results like the platinum
>> selling mixes and was straining to make a mix satisfying to my ears (at
>least).
>> Putting numerous compressor ,sometimes on each channel , driving me crazy
>> to make things distinguished one from other inside a mix.
>> Even when I bought me the pulsars ,although way better results the
>combiantion
>> of Pulsar and SX did not quite did it...
>> Then when I got me Paris something revealing arose.
>> With good efforts I can make a great mix I can make the cklient happy
and
>> the killer paris_Pulsar combination is the way to go for me.
>> Here is one suggestion before you leave Paris.
>> Buy one Pulsar card ,6 dsp is fine.
>> Keep a couple of mecs , or three like me, or four like I wanna be when
I
>> grow...
>> Attach the adats to Pulsar adats and use the mixer -routing effecting
>possibilities
>> from inside Pulsar.
>> Pulsar has great compressors, Timeworks is a brilliant example, has The
>SPL
>> transient designer (what a plugin !!) has vinco compressor (1176)
>timeworks
>> fantastic vintage eq, and has the greatest third party effects (many
are
>> free) of any platform.
>> Now use your Paris ONLY for mixing leveling eq'ing.
>> Disable DX disable VST (although vertex is a must !)
>> So better disable DX (you don't need them !! believe me)at least inside
>Paris,
>> and use ONLY the vertex group manager , latency compensator on every
>channel,
>> EXTREMELY stable without any wrapper, this guy knows how to program !
>> Then using the adat ports send a track over to scope put a Compressor
X or
>> Vinco compressor, put maybe a SPL transient designer plugin for extra
>punch,some
>> great reverb like Masterverb Pro or Timeworks 4080L and send it back.
>> Do you wanna know the latency from Paris to Scope-To Compressor to paris
>> again ?
>> 27 samples !!
>> yes 27.
>> Now if that is much use vertex and it sounds realtime.
>> A heavy load of Compressor plus Designer plus Eq gives you a 74 samples
>latency
>> !
>> Less than 1ms nudge in Paris.
>> use vertex again or nudge back.
>> Your Paris will never crash cause no DX plugin will cause it.
>> Ok the editing has some bugs but you know them ...
>> I will hold on with Paris until I will be the last obne here.
>> Regards,
>> Dimitrios
>
>Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode. Previously, Autotune
was unable to extract the timebase from the project (I guess DX does
not support this). Now that it is VST, they are able to include this.
Previously, you would have to work from the exact same point
everytime... which is why they generally recommend you work on one
line at a time, and render each line when you have finished tuning.
With version 5, you can work on any point in the time line with no
troubles. That being said, Melodyne kicks the snot out of Autotune!!
David.
Chris Ludwig wrote:
> Haven't tried it but I think only the newest VST version of autotune has
> a functional graphical mode.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Don Nafe wrote:
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Cubase newbie here
>>
>> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in
>> Cubase...I tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at "0" and
>> I see the graph showing up after the vocals start...about a 1/2 second
>> or so.
>>
>> Am I missing something here?
>>
>> DOn
>>
>I hate to say it, but I think it is all personal preference.
The truth of it is a lot of the hits we all know and love were not
recorded/mixed in PARIS. I am sure many were done with
Cubase and ProTools and all the other DAWs.
I have been working with Cubase tutorial files and
I must say they sound pretty good to me.
A lot better than anything I have done in PARIS thus far.
--
Thanks,
Brandon
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c775d4$1@linux...
>
> Don't be so sure. I'm very impressed with my presonus digimax fs pres and
> cubase 4.
>
> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >One thing for sure, Cubase can't beat the Paris sound :-)
> >
> >Bjorn R
> >
> >
> >
> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
news:45c76c1d$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I jumped over to Paris one year ago.
> >> By then I was struggkling for years and years with Cubase from Cubase
> >VST32
> >> over to Cubase 5 over to SX ...
> >> I was never being able to achieve professional results like the
platinum
> >> selling mixes and was straining to make a mix satisfying to my ears (at
> >least).
> >> Putting numerous compressor ,sometimes on each channel , driving me
crazy
> >> to make things distinguished one from other inside a mix.
> >> Even when I bought me the pulsars ,although way better results the
> >combiantion
> >> of Pulsar and SX did not quite did it...
> >> Then when I got me Paris something revealing arose.
> >> With good efforts I can make a great mix I can make the cklient happy
> and
> >> the killer paris_Pulsar combination is the way to go for me.
> >> Here is one suggestion before you leave Paris.
> >> Buy one Pulsar card ,6 dsp is fine.
> >> Keep a couple of mecs , or three like me, or four like I wanna be when
> I
> >> grow...
> >> Attach the adats to Pulsar adats and use the mixer -routing effecting
> >possibilities
> >> from inside Pulsar.
> >> Pulsar has great compressors, Timeworks is a brilliant example, has The
> >SPL
> >> transient designer (what a plugin !!) has vinco compressor (1176)
> >timeworks
> >> fantastic vintage eq, and has the greatest third party effects (many
> are
> >> free) of any platform.
> >> Now use your Paris ONLY for mixing leveling eq'ing.
> >> Disable DX disable VST (although vertex is a must !)
> >> So better disable DX (you don't need them !! believe me)at least inside
> >Paris,
> >> and use ONLY the vertex group manager , latency compensator on every
> >channel,
> >> EXTREMELY stable without any wrapper, this guy knows how to program !
> >> Then using the adat ports send a track over to scope put a Compressor
> X or
> >> Vinco compressor, put maybe a SPL transient designer plugin for extra
> >punch,some
> >> great reverb like Masterverb Pro or Timeworks 4080L and send it back.
> >> Do you wanna know the latency from Paris to Scope-To Compressor to
paris
> >> again ?
> >> 27 samples !!
> >> yes 27.
> >> Now if that is much use vertex and it sounds realtime.
> >> A heavy load of Compressor plus Designer plus Eq gives you a 74 samples
> >latency
> >> !
> >> Less than 1ms nudge in Paris.
> >> use vertex again or nudge back.
> >> Your Paris will never crash cause no DX plugin will cause it.
> >> Ok the editing has some bugs but you know them ...
> >> I will hold on with Paris until I will be the last obne here.
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >
> >
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Thad,
I just replaced my Toshiba with an ACER. I cloned the Toshiba C drive
and reloaded Acer drivers. Works like a charm. It's a 1.6 Cor Duo and
smokes the Toshiba P4 2.4.
Have fun with your tables!
Tom
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c76845$1@linux...
OK, so here's the story on the laptop I've mentioned a few times. I =
decided
a few months back I wanted to add a basic, two turntable DJ setup to =
my studio.
Partially it was for me, just because I enjoy spinning vinyl more than =
I
enjoy most things. Partially it's because for the kind of music I do a =
pair
of battered up Technics 1200s gives the kind of instant cred for a =
visitor
that a rack full of Crane Songs will for most of you guys.=20
Now then, my actual vinyl collection is pretty weak, and I'd been =
seeing
a lot of my DJ friends switching over to timecode based systems, =
either CD
or vinyl based timecode triggering digital source files--MP3, OGG, or =
WAV
mostly. One friend in particular liked a simple (and cheap) shareware =
app
called djdecks (www.djdecks.be) that could be controlled using either =
Final
Scratch or Serato Scratch Live vinyl. I also decided it would be nice =
for
the system to be self contained and possibly portable so I could spin =
live
at some point.=20
Having seen my work laptop crash off a stand (with my code and =
everything
on it) I decided to try a cheap laptop. So I bought the crappiest, =
cheapest,
most 'couldn't care less if someone spills a mojito into it laptop' I =
could
find. An ACER Sempron 3400 based piece o' crap that was $550 from =
Newegg.
ATI 1100 integrated chipset, shared video memory, basically everything =
you
don't want in a laptop. Out of the box it was a SHOCKINGLY awful =
computer,
even I figured initially I had made a mistake. Yeah, all new machines =
come
loaded with crap, but this seemed to be beyond that by far. =
Nevertheless,
I did a quick image of it to save the drivers (unnecessary, actually, =
the
ACER site has the drivers when the site is up) and installed a vanilla =
XP
SP2 setup. Patched it, did all of the usual stuff.=20
Massive difference right then. Seemed like a laptop again, felt like a =
2
Ghz machine or so. Stuffed 2 GB of memory into it, replaced the drive =
with
a 120 GB Seagate. Then, finally, the real test. Installed an RME =
Cardbus
card and an RPM and started working with it. Rock effin solid for DAYS =
of
use. And as far as I'm concerned live timecode vinyl manipulation =
(with the
buffers set to the lowest possible in the RME config) is pretty =
demanding
real time usage.=20
So, I now use and endorse crappy ACER laptops for audio use, =
especially if
the cost of the added on hardware double the cost of the portable.=20
BTW - FLAC kicks serious amounts of ass as well.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thad,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just replaced my Toshiba with an =
ACER. I=20
cloned the Toshiba C drive</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and reloaded =
Acer drivers. Works=20
like a charm. It's a 1.6 Cor Duo and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>smokes the Toshiba P4 2.4.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have fun with your tables!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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wrote in message <A=20
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href=3D"news:45c76845$1@linux">news:45c76845$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR>OK, =
so=20
here's the story on the laptop I've mentioned a few times. I =
decided<BR>a few=20
months back I wanted to add a basic, two turntable DJ setup to my=20
studio.<BR>Partially it was for me, just because I enjoy spinning =
vinyl more=20
than I<BR>enjoy most things. Partially it's because for the kind of =
music I do=20
a pair<BR>of battered up Technics 1200s gives the kind of instant cred =
for a=20
visitor<BR>that a rack full of Crane Songs will for most of you guys.=20
<BR><BR>Now then, my actual vinyl collection is pretty weak, and I'd =
been=20
seeing<BR>a lot of my DJ friends switching over to timecode based =
systems,=20
either CD<BR>or vinyl based timecode triggering digital source =
files--MP3,=20
OGG, or WAV<BR>mostly. One friend in particular liked a simple (and =
cheap)=20
shareware app<BR>called djdecks (<A=20
href=3D"http://www.djdecks.be">www.djdecks.be</A>) that could be =
controlled=20
using either Final<BR>Scratch or Serato Scratch Live vinyl. I also =
decided it=20
would be nice for<BR>the system to be self contained and possibly =
portable so=20
I could spin live<BR>at some point. <BR><BR>Having seen my work laptop =
crash=20
off a stand (with my code and everything<BR>on it) I decided to try a =
cheap=20
laptop. So I bought the crappiest, cheapest,<BR>most 'couldn't care =
less if=20
someone spills a mojito into it laptop' I could<BR>find. An ACER =
Sempron 3400=20
based piece o' crap that was $550 from Newegg.<BR>ATI 1100 integrated =
chipset,=20
shared video memory, basically everything you<BR>don't want in a =
laptop. Out=20
of the box it was a SHOCKINGLY awful computer,<BR>even I figured =
initially I=20
had made a mistake. Yeah, all new machines come<BR>loaded with crap, =
but this=20
seemed to be beyond that by far. Nevertheless,<BR>I did a quick image =
of it to=20
save the drivers (unnecessary, actually, the<BR>ACER site has the =
drivers when=20
the site is up) and installed a vanilla XP<BR>SP2 setup. Patched it, =
did all=20
of the usual stuff. <BR><BR>Massive difference right then. Seemed like =
a=20
laptop again, felt like a 2<BR>Ghz machine or so. Stuffed 2 GB of =
memory into=20
it, replaced the drive with<BR>a 120 GB Seagate. Then, finally, the =
real test.=20
Installed an RME Cardbus<BR>card and an RPM and started working with =
it. Rock=20
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------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C7492B.60D19DC0--I'm glad it works for you. I've got SX3 synced to Paris for VSTi's, editing,
etc, and it never stops to surprise me how "musical" and "glued together"
the Cubase-trax sounds when they are rendered and played back in Paris,.
Especially if it's a crowded mix.
Bjorn R
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c775d4$1@linux...
>
> Don't be so sure. I'm very impressed with my presonus digimax fs pres and
> cubase 4.
>
> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >One thing for sure, Cubase can't beat the Paris sound :-)
> >
> >Bjorn R
> >
> >
> >
> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
news:45c76c1d$1@linux...
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I jumped over to Paris one year ago.
> >> By then I was struggkling for years and years with Cubase from Cubase
> >VST32
> >> over to Cubase 5 over to SX ...
> >> I was never being able to achieve professional results like the
platinum
> >> selling mixes and was straining to make a mix satisfying to my ears (at
> >least).
> >> Putting numerous compressor ,sometimes on each channel , driving me
crazy
> >> to make things distinguished one from other inside a mix.
> >> Even when I bought me the pulsars ,although way better results the
> >combiantion
> >> of Pulsar and SX did not quite did it...
> >> Then when I got me Paris something revealing arose.
> >> With good efforts I can make a great mix I can make the cklient happy
> and
> >> the killer paris_Pulsar combination is the way to go for me.
> >> Here is one suggestion before you leave Paris.
> >> Buy one Pulsar card ,6 dsp is fine.
> >> Keep a couple of mecs , or three like me, or four like I wanna be when
> I
> >> grow...
> >> Attach the adats to Pulsar adats and use the mixer -routing effecting
> >possibilities
> >> from inside Pulsar.
> >> Pulsar has great compressors, Timeworks is a brilliant example, has The
> >SPL
> >> transient designer (what a plugin !!) has vinco compressor (1176)
> >timeworks
> >> fantastic vintage eq, and has the greatest third party effects (many
> are
> >> free) of any platform.
> >> Now use your Paris ONLY for mixing leveling eq'ing.
> >> Disable DX disable VST (although vertex is a must !)
> >> So better disable DX (you don't need them !! believe me)at least inside
> >Paris,
> >> and use ONLY the vertex group manager , latency compensator on every
> >channel,
> >> EXTREMELY stable without any wrapper, this guy knows how to program !
> >> Then using the adat ports send a track over to scope put a Compressor
> X or
> >> Vinco compressor, put maybe a SPL transient designer plugin for extra
> >punch,some
> >> great reverb like Masterverb Pro or Timeworks 4080L and send it back.
> >> Do you wanna know the latency from Paris to Scope-To Compressor to
paris
> >> again ?
> >> 27 samples !!
> >> yes 27.
> >> Now if that is much use vertex and it sounds realtime.
> >> A heavy load of Compressor plus Designer plus Eq gives you a 74 samples
> >latency
> >> !
> >> Less than 1ms nudge in Paris.
> >> use vertex again or nudge back.
> >> Your Paris will never crash cause no DX plugin will cause it.
> >> Ok the editing has some bugs but you know them ...
> >> I will hold on with Paris until I will be the last obne here.
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >
> >
>Doug, agreed on all points, and I'm not using Ardour either. My two non-linux
machines are for audio apps, and I realize that's not going to change.
About the big names. I think IBM has been a pretty good citizen. Yes, they
make a lot of money but I think they put some real effort to improve GPL'd
code as well. The Eclipse IDE, for example, is something they wouldn't have
had to give away and did. Other companies, obviously, haven't done as well.
And lastly, the free I care about most is access to source. Not that I'm
going to rewrite Apache, but there's a different level of troubleshooting,
investigation, and fixing possible when I can see logs and source the way
I can with foss software.
But that's just me,
TCB
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c36a7b$1@linux...
>> By FAR the largest barrier to normal people using linux is the lack of
>> drivers
>> for video cards and wireless network cards (and increasingly, onboard
>> ethernet)
>> at install time.
>
>Absolutely! Of course, I think the second barrier is that many of the apps
>that I (and many others) use do not work under Linux. I'm still a firm
>believer in the idea of picking the application before picking the OS.
For
>example, I don't care how zealous you are about Ardour, it just doesn't
>compare to Cakewalk, Cubase, DP, Logic, ProTools, Samplitude, etc. (And
>what about that PARIS thAng?) Because I have picked applications before
>operating systems, I am now running three different operating systems on
my
>personal computers, and five different operating systems at work. So
>what...! They're all so similar any more, it doesn't matter.
>
><troll>
>I'm still a firm believer that "free" software has never been completely
>free - every major oss project that I know of was funded by DARPA, some
>university grant, IBM, or some other funding entity. Of COURSE IBM likes
>Apache and Linux - it's not benevolent, it's opportunistic! They get to
>throw a little bit of money at a bunch of naive zealots who love them for
>it, while they make HUGE profits off of the work! Wake up and smell the
>coffee open source developers! You're getting screwed!
></troll>
>
>I'm reading an interesting book, "WIKINOMICS, How Mass Collaboration Changes
>Everything" - it is definitely the "feel good open source book of the
>summer". Check it out if you're a linux/open source fan - it's a great
>piece of apologetics, but I think it's just preaching to the choir. What
I
>think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed a
>"religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions to
>jump ship and join you...
>
>Doug
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
>Wow, on both counts. What do you use to drive the huge display? That's crazy
talk.
I thought about a second 24" for him, but I wonder if it will get in the
way of my audio monitors, which are pretty close to where I sit. Sounds pretty
cool, though.
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c61ddf$1@linux...
>> I use a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice monitor.
>
>I'm using a dual 24" Dell setup at work. We even have three visualization
>walls that each have 15 (!) of the 24" Dells in a three row by five column
>arrangement.
>
>Doug (And yes, we're using Linux on them...) ;-)
>
>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
>Let me know when you sell all those 24s cheap to replace them with the
30s. :^)
That's pretty cool.
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Doug Wellington wrote:
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c61ddf$1@linux...
>> I use a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice monitor.
>
> I'm using a dual 24" Dell setup at work. We even have three visualization
> walls that each have 15 (!) of the 24" Dells in a three row by five column
> arrangement.
>
> Doug (And yes, we're using Linux on them...) ;-)
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.com
>
>Everyone still using 57's and or 421's for toms? Just checking to see if
anyone is using something other than those for pop/rock and liking it...
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Hey Rich,
I've been using 421s forever and never wanted to subject my vocal
414s to the tom task. I did try the less expensive Studio Projects
C3 and was overjoyed with the results on that floor tom. I will
strongly consider two more for all three in the future. A C1 will
do just fine I think. Lots cheaper than 414s, U47s etc..
Drumagog sounds nice too.
Tom
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Drumagog sounds nice too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C74937.261D1EA0--Yes and yes - I also like those little Sennheiser 604 (?i think), and really
dig throwing a Sennheiser 609 on the bottom head (double-miking). I lots of
loud rock-type stuff. Someone has recently posted about a new mic company
(that is the ex-core of CAD mics) in Nashville that has a drum pack/kit for
under $200 that sounds nice. Can't remember the name, but maybe worth
checking out for the price.
-Carl
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> Everyone still using 57's and or 421's for toms? Just checking to see if
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Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
Is it totally functional except for automation?
I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work arounds.
Good to go in Paris?
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Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode. Previously, Autotune=20
was unable to extract the timebase from the project (I guess DX does=20
not support this). Now that it is VST, they are able to include this.=20
Previously, you would have to work from the exact same point=20
everytime... which is why they generally recommend you work on one=20
line at a time, and render each line when you have finished tuning.=20
With version 5, you can work on any point in the time line with no=20
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David.
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> Haven't tried it but I think only the newest VST version of autotune =
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>=20
> Chris
>=20
>=20
> Don Nafe wrote:
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>> Hi guys
>>
>> Cubase newbie here
>>
>> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in=20
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and=20
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>> Am I missing something here?
>>
>> DOn
>>
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version of=20
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Chris<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Don Nafe wrote:<BR>> <BR>>> =
Hi=20
guys<BR>>><BR>>> Cubase newbie =
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<BR>>> I see the graph showing up after the vocals start...about =
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------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C7493A.9D0DDA10--"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>> What I
>think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed a
>"religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions to
>jump ship and join you...
While I understand from whence you're coming with that statement,
I personally fail to see the logic behind that sentiment (not
your's, the zealots), I mean WTF difference does it make? Mac/
PC, Windoze/Linux Cubase/Paris/Pro-Tools - I could care less...
just gimme something that works & is at least somewhat
intuitive, and is reasonably-priced.
Can Linux work with CubaseSX? If so, I'd be willing to give it a
shot. or do I need to be a total tweakhead to be able to set up
a Linux box?
Neil"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Everyone still using 57's and or 421's for toms? Just checking to see
if
>anyone is using something other than those for pop/rock and liking it...
Audix D4's.
Neil421's414's first call for me...
Assuming there are no 251's available :)
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>421's"John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com> wrote:
>
>414's first call for me...
I agree, I LOVE those things on toms (I just don't personally
own any, so the D4's - although very different - are my current
pick).
>Assuming there are no 251's available :)
But only if the drummer is using brushes, right? :D
NeilI seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work in Paris... it
utilizes VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a stand alone app...
maybe that would be a better bet for you.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
> Is it totally functional except for automation?
> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work arounds.
>
> Good to go in Paris?
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:45c77878$1@linux...
> Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode. Previously, Autotune
> was unable to extract the timebase from the project (I guess DX does
> not support this). Now that it is VST, they are able to include this.
> Previously, you would have to work from the exact same point
> everytime... which is why they generally recommend you work on one
> line at a time, and render each line when you have finished tuning.
> With version 5, you can work on any point in the time line with no
> troubles. That being said, Melodyne kicks the snot out of Autotune!!
>
> David.
>
> Chris Ludwig wrote:
> > Haven't tried it but I think only the newest VST version of
> autotune has
> > a functional graphical mode.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > Don Nafe wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys
> >>
> >> Cubase newbie here
> >>
> >> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in
> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at
> "0" and
> >> I see the graph showing up after the vocals start...about a 1/2
> second
> >> or so.
> >>
> >> Am I missing something here?
> >>
> >> DOn
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlOh yeah :-)
If you ever pass through DFW airport check out the 8X2 banks of 42 inch plasmas
running in portrait. Driven by HP blades via IP video extenders running
a custom FLASH client developed by the group I work with.
And man if you ever pass through PHX airport you have to check out the GINORMOUS
LED display we did for the parking lot :-)
Chuck
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>Wow, on both counts. What do you use to drive the huge display? That's crazy
>talk.
>
>I thought about a second 24" for him, but I wonder if it will get in the
>way of my audio monitors, which are pretty close to where I sit. Sounds
pretty
>cool, though.
>
>"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c61ddf$1@linux...
>>> I use a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice monitor.
>>
>>I'm using a dual 24" Dell setup at work. We even have three visualization
>
>>walls that each have 15 (!) of the 24" Dells in a three row by five column
>
>>arrangement.
>>
>>Doug (And yes, we're using Linux on them...) ;-)
>>
>>http://www.parisfaqs.com
>>
>>
>Hi Neil,
For the desktop ... Linux is great for surfing/browsing/document editing/administration/playing
audio video.
What works great is to run the OS you want for audio, and install a linux
virtual machine on it. This will allow you to safely browse and do whatever
the heck else you want, while leaving your base machine completely untouched.
Chuck
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.comj> wrote:
>
>"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>> What I
>>think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed a
>
>>"religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions
to
>
>>jump ship and join you...
>
>While I understand from whence you're coming with that statement,
>I personally fail to see the logic behind that sentiment (not
>your's, the zealots), I mean WTF difference does it make? Mac/
>PC, Windoze/Linux Cubase/Paris/Pro-Tools - I could care less...
>just gimme something that works & is at least somewhat
>intuitive, and is reasonably-priced.
>
>Can Linux work with CubaseSX? If so, I'd be willing to give it a
>shot. or do I need to be a total tweakhead to be able to set up
>a Linux box?
>
>NeilThanks to all for your suggestions -
sounded like hyperthreading to me too. This is a true dual core chip which
does not hyperthread so it can't be turned off. The only dual core intel
chips which hyperthread are the 'extreme' chips (effectively creating 4 threads,
2 per core).
Is there no experience with Paris on XP with a true dual core chip?
Is MS virtual pc a possibility - any experience?
I tried setting 'paris.exe' compatibility mode to win98 - no go.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>The Dual core will be the issue here... I don't know if anyone has had
>success getting it to work properly. I am not sure if it even possible
>to turn off HT on this chip.
>
>David.
>
>Piper wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
>> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
Nvida...
>> Fresh XP home install.
>>
>> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first,
etc.
>>
>> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start, crashes
>> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
>> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>>
>> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>>
>> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>>
>> PiperHey Chuck... I have a whole separate machine for that other
stuff... the only time my DAW rig sees the internet is when I
have to download an update or plugin. I was just wondering if
Linux is less bloated/more streamlined, and would run audio
better.
Neil
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Hi Neil,
>
>For the desktop ... Linux is great for surfing/browsing/document editing/administration/playing
>audio video.
>
>What works great is to run the OS you want for audio, and install a linux
>virtual machine on it. This will allow you to safely browse and do whatever
>the heck else you want, while leaving your base machine completely untouched.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.comj> wrote:
>>
>>"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>>> What I
>>>think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed
a
>>
>>>"religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions
>to
>>
>>>jump ship and join you...
>>
>>While I understand from whence you're coming with that statement,
>>I personally fail to see the logic behind that sentiment (not
>>your's, the zealots), I mean WTF difference does it make? Mac/
>>PC, Windoze/Linux Cubase/Paris/Pro-Tools - I could care less...
>>just gimme something that works & is at least somewhat
>>intuitive, and is reasonably-priced.
>>
>>Can Linux work with CubaseSX? If so, I'd be willing to give it a
>>shot. or do I need to be a total tweakhead to be able to set up
>>a Linux box?
>>
>>Neil
>My guess is it won't work as well.
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:45c79b4c@linux...
>I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work in Paris... it utilizes
>VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a stand alone app... maybe that
>would be a better bet for you.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
>> Is it totally functional except for automation?
>> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work arounds.
>> Good to go in Paris?
>>
>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
>> message news:45c77878$1@linux...
>> Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode. Previously, Autotune
>> was unable to extract the timebase from the project (I guess DX does
>> not support this). Now that it is VST, they are able to include this.
>> Previously, you would have to work from the exact same point
>> everytime... which is why they generally recommend you work on one
>> line at a time, and render each line when you have finished tuning.
>> With version 5, you can work on any point in the time line with no
>> troubles. That being said, Melodyne kicks the snot out of Autotune!!
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>> > Haven't tried it but I think only the newest VST version of
>> autotune has
>> > a functional graphical mode.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > Don Nafe wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi guys
>> >>
>> >> Cubase newbie here
>> >>
>> >> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in
>> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at
>> "0" and
>> >> I see the graph showing up after the vocals start...about a 1/2
>> second
>> >> or so.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something here?
>> >>
>> >> DOn
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.htmlShure sm 98's, I also like the 421's.
Rod
"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Everyone still using 57's and or 421's for toms? Just checking to see
if
>anyone is using something other than those for pop/rock and liking it...
>
>Thanks again!Bought them today. A pair of 2407's, an NVidia GEForce 6800 Xtreme with
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t as disabling hyperthread emulates.
Paris runs smoothly now - the old Paris I know & love...
Pass it on to anyone attempting XP/Paris on a "D" intel processor.
Thanks again!
"Piper" <piperprojects@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>Thanks to all for your suggestions -
>
>sounded like hyperthreading to me too. This is a true dual core chip which
>does not hyperthread so it can't be turned off. The only dual core intel
>chips which hyperthread are the 'extreme' chips (effectively creating 4
threads,
>2 per core).
>
>Is there no experience with Paris on XP with a true dual core chip?
>
>Is MS virtual pc a possibility - any experience?
>
>I tried setting 'paris.exe' compatibility mode to win98 - no go.
>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>The Dual core will be the issue here... I don't know if anyone has had
>>success getting it to work properly. I am not sure if it even possible
>>to turn off HT on this chip.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Piper wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I'm a LONG time Paris 3.0 user, was a VAR when that program was active.
>
>>> Finally made the move to XP on new HW - Intel Dual core, 2GB, SATA x2,
>Nvida...
>>> Fresh XP home install.
>>>
>>> I've installed 3.0 according to the excellent directions, pace first,
>etc.
>>>
>>> It's REALLY buggy - won't see the MEC but ~30% of the time on start,
crashes
>>> paris on some starts, crashes paris on some song loads (98 saved projects,
>>> this is a mix/post platform), crashes windows on occasion, etc.
>>>
>>> Is this as good as it gets? Any ideas to make this more stable?
>>>
>>> Your experienced input is appreciated -
>>>
>>> Piper
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anyway?
I guess I'll have to render and drag over to Cubase for processing =
otherwise huh?
I think I need another MEC now that I think of it. Good for another =
ADAT and SPDF=20
with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT 20 for the rack =
space...
Maybe 1.3 will do...
I really like realtime everything.
Poor old analog me
"Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net> wrote in message =
news:45c7a9df@linux...
My guess is it won't work as well.
"EKE Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:45c79b4c@linux...
>I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work in Paris... it =
utilizes=20
>VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a stand alone app... maybe =
that=20
>would be a better bet for you.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
>> Is it totally functional except for automation?
>> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work arounds.
>> Good to go in Paris?
>>
>> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote =
in
>> message news:45c77878$1@linux...
>> Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode. Previously, =
Autotune
>> was unable to extract the timebase from the project (I guess DX =
does
>> not support this). Now that it is VST, they are able to include =
this.
>> Previously, you would have to work from the exact same point
>> everytime... which is why they generally recommend you work on =
one
>> line at a time, and render each line when you have finished =
tuning.
>> With version 5, you can work on any point in the time line with =
no
>> troubles. That being said, Melodyne kicks the snot out of =
Autotune!!
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>> > Haven't tried it but I think only the newest VST version of
>> autotune has
>> > a functional graphical mode.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
>> > Don Nafe wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi guys
>> >>
>> >> Cubase newbie here
>> >>
>> >> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode =
in
>> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a simple vocal track staring =
at
>> "0" and
>> >> I see the graph showing up after the vocals start...about a =
1/2
>> second
>> >> or so.
>> >>
>> >> Am I missing something here?
>> >>
>> >> DOn
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html=20
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------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C7494B.C31470A0--Just to explain... the Melodyne plugin has to "record" the track from
the host first... in real time. Then you can manipulate the sound
during playback. One issue here... if you try to go back to the track
(not that you need to) and make additional edits, these edits will
have to be recorded into Melodyne again. You would lose what work you
have already done. Rule of thumb is to make sure your edits are
finished, then "polish" with the Melodyne plug.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Okay then via spdf to Cubase and back then? Realtime in auto mode anyway?
> I guess I'll have to render and drag over to Cubase for processing
> otherwise huh?
> I think I need another MEC now that I think of it. Good for another
> ADAT and SPDF
> with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT 20 for the rack space...
> Maybe 1.3 will do...
>
> I really like realtime everything.
> Poor old analog me
>
>
>
> "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>> wrote in
> message news:45c7a9df@linux...
> My guess is it won't work as well.
>
>
> "EKE Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:45c79b4c@linux...
> >I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work in Paris... it
> utilizes
> >VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a stand alone app... maybe
> that
> >would be a better bet for you.
> >
> > David.
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> >> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
> >> Is it totally functional except for automation?
> >> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work arounds.
> >> Good to go in Paris?
> >>
> >> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> >> message news:45c77878$1@linux...
> >> Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode. Previously,
> Autotune
> >> was unable to extract the timebase from the project (I guess
> DX does
> >> not support this). Now that it is VST, they are able to
> include this.
> >> Previously, you would have to work from the exact same point
> >> everytime... which is why they generally recommend you work
> on one
> >> line at a time, and render each line when you have finished
> tuning.
> >> With version 5, you can work on any point in the time line
> with no
> >> troubles. That being said, Melodyne kicks the snot out of
> Autotune!!
> >>
> >> David.
> >>
> >> Chris Ludwig wrote:
> >> > Haven't tried it but I think only the newest VST version of
> >> autotune has
> >> > a functional graphical mode.
> >> >
> >> > Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Don Nafe wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi guys
> >> >>
> >> >> Cubase newbie here
> >> >>
> >> >> just wondering if there's a trick
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the standard features, whereas the "essential" and "uno" versions only
offer manual pitch correction. The Cre8 version is good if you want
to make backing vocal tracks from a lead vocal, without having to have
several plugins open at one time. The Studio version is just that, a
fully featured recording and editing package. The quality is the same
regardless of the version. The one thing that Studio does that the
others don't do is manipulating polyphonic files, like guitars, keys,
or even entire mixes. The time manipulation capabilities on a full
mix is nothing short of amazing.
For most "tuning" uses, the plugin works great.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> David,
> So there's no real-time automatic mode? Maybe standalone on my Paris comp
> is the way to go then. A friend of mine has the full blown version
> around here.
> I'll have to get a demo from him. He loves it with Logic.
>
> Is the polyphonic version as good quality as it gets? Worth the extra cash?
> Tom
>
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:45c7b357@linux...
> Just to explain... the Melodyne plugin has to "record" the track from
> the host first... in real time. Then you can manipulate the sound
> during playback. One issue here... if you try to go back to the track
> (not that you need to) and make additional edits, these edits will
> have to be recorded into Melodyne again. You would lose what work you
> have already done. Rule of thumb is to make sure your edits are
> finished, then "polish" with the Melodyne plug.
>
> David.
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Okay then via spdf to Cubase and back then? Realtime in auto
> mode anyway?
> > I guess I'll have to render and drag over to Cubase for processing
> > otherwise huh?
> > I think I need another MEC now that I think of it. Good for another
> > ADAT and SPDF
> > with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT 20 for the
> rack space...
> > Maybe 1.3 will do...
> >
> > I really like realtime everything.
> > Poor old analog me
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>
> <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>> wrote in
> > message news:45c7a9df@linux...
> > My guess is it won't work as well.
> >
> >
> > "EKE Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > message news:45c79b4c@linux...
> > >I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work in
> Paris... it
> > utilizes
> > >VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a stand alone
> app... maybe
> > that
> > >would be a better bet for you.
> > >
> > > David.
> > >
> > > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > >> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
> > >> Is it totally functional except for automation?
> > >> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work arounds.
> > >> Good to go in Paris?
> > >>
> > >> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > >> message news:45c77878$1@linux...
> > >> Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode.
> Previously,
> > Autotune
> > >> was unable to extract the timebase from the project
> (I guess
> > DX does
> > >> not support this). Now that it is VST, they are able to
> > include this.
> > >> Previously, you would have to work from the exact
> same point
> > >> everytime... which is why they generally recommend
> you work
> > on one
> > >> line at a time, and render each line when you have
> finished
> > tuning.
> > >> With version 5, you can work on any point in the time
> line
> > with no
> > >> troubles. That being said, Melodyne kicks the snot
> out of
> > Autotune!!
> > >>
> > >> David.
> > >>
> > >> Chris Ludwig wrote:
> > >> > Haven't tried it but I think only the newest VST
> version of
> > >> autotune has
> > >> > a functional graphical mode.
> > >> >
> > >> > Chris
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Don Nafe wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi guys
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cubase newbie here
> > >> >>
> > >> >> just wondering if there's a trick to using
> graphical mode in
> > >> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a simple vocal track
> > staring at
> > >> "0" and
> > >> >> I see the graph showing up after the vocals
> > start...about a 1/2
> > >> second
> > >> >> or so.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Am I missing something here?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> DOn
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >Hi Neil,
It can be as streamlied as you want. It doesn't run any steiny apps, or
pro tools, or really any commercial daw. So for 'our' uses as recordists,
it's usability is about nil right now. A lot of people would take exception
to that comment, but it's a practical statement.
It's cool to have a separate machine for the browsing stuff. Some people
want it all on one box :-)
I can't tell you guys enough how cool virtual machines are though.
Chuck
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Chuck... I have a whole separate machine for that other
>stuff... the only time my DAW rig sees the internet is when I
>have to download an update or plugin. I was just wondering if
>Linux is less bloated/more streamlined, and would run audio
>better.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Neil,
>>
>>For the desktop ... Linux is great for surfing/browsing/document editing/administration/playing
>>audio video.
>>
>>What works great is to run the OS you want for audio, and install a linux
>>virtual machine on it. This will allow you to safely browse and do whatever
>>the heck else you want, while leaving your base machine completely untouched.
>>
>>Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.comj> wrote:
>>>
>>>"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>>>> What I
>>>>think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed
>a
>>>
>>>>"religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions
>>to
>>>
>>>>jump ship and join you...
>>>
>>>While I understand from whence you're coming with that statement,
>>>I personally fail to see the logic behind that sentiment (not
>>>your's, the zealots), I mean WTF difference does it make? Mac/
>>>PC, Windoze/Linux Cubase/Paris/Pro-Tools - I could care less...
>>>just gimme something that works & is at least somewhat
>>>intuitive, and is reasonably-priced.
>>>
>>>Can Linux work with CubaseSX? If so, I'd be willing to give it a
>>>shot. or do I need to be a total tweakhead to be able to set up
>>>a Linux box?
>>>
>>>Neil
>>
>Hi,
There was at one point a fully function version of Nuendo 1.0 on BeOS
that Steinberg was close to making available but Be went bye bye.
Nuendo and Cubase are both developed on Unix so that they can keep the
cross platform part more manageable.
I would think that once if ever the Linux world decided they want be a
viable contender in the audio/video world instead of just the
network/business world then we will see a bunch of current apps make the
jump. The audio/video is much much smaller world money wise than
IT/business but but wouldn't at least some of the Linux geeks rather be
rock stars .:)
Chris
chuck duffy wrote:
> Hi Neil,
>
> It can be as streamlied as you want. It doesn't run any steiny apps, or
> pro tools, or really any commercial daw. So for 'our' uses as recordists,
> it's usability is about nil right now. A lot of people would take exception
> to that comment, but it's a practical statement.
>
> It's cool to have a separate machine for the browsing stuff. Some people
> want it all on one box :-)
>
> I can't tell you guys enough how cool virtual machines are though.
>
> Chuck
>
> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>> Hey Chuck... I have a whole separate machine for that other
>> stuff... the only time my DAW rig sees the internet is when I
>> have to download an update or plugin. I was just wondering if
>> Linux is less bloated/more streamlined, and would run audio
>> better.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Neil,
>>>
>>> For the desktop ... Linux is great for surfing/browsing/document editing/administration/playing
>>> audio video.
>>>
>>> What works great is to run the OS you want for audio, and install a linux
>>> virtual machine on it. This will allow you to safely browse and do whatever
>>> the heck else you want, while leaving your base machine completely untouched.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.comj> wrote:
>>>> "Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What I
>>>>> think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed
>> a
>>>>> "religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions
>>> to
>>>>> jump ship and join you...
>>>> While I understand from whence you're coming with that statement,
>>>> I personally fail to see the logic behind that sentiment (not
>>>> your's, the zealots), I mean WTF difference does it make? Mac/
>>>> PC, Windoze/Linux Cubase/Paris/Pro-Tools - I could care less...
>>>> just gimme something that works & is at least somewhat
>>>> intuitive, and is reasonably-priced.
>>>>
>>>> Can Linux work with CubaseSX? If so, I'd be willing to give it a
>>>> shot. or do I need to be a total tweakhead to be able to set up
>>>> a Linux box?
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>
--
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ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
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A blowtorch will insure that no fragments will stray from the HD.
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:45c49951@linux...
I'm running OSX 10.4 on a G4. The access time on the HD seems alittle =
slow. Can you defrag drives on a mac? If so, how?
Thanks!
MR
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"Mike R." <<A=20
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>
>
>A blowtorch will insure that no fragments will stray from the HD.
Nah, ballpeen hammer. The fragments are the fun part.
DCHi Chris,
I think you are right. AFAIK Steiny code is 100% cross platform c and c++.
The SDK, publicly available, includes examples that will compile on anything.
The linux community wont get behind vst/asio because it's 'closed source',
the SDK uses the wrong license model...
Chuck
Chuck
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>There was at one point a fully function version of Nuendo 1.0 on BeOS
>that Steinberg was close to making available but Be went bye bye.
>Nuendo and Cubase are both developed on Unix so that they can keep the
>cross platform part more manageable.
>I would think that once if ever the Linux world decided they want be a
>viable contender in the audio/video world instead of just the
>network/business world then we will see a bunch of current apps make the
>jump. The audio/video is much much smaller world money wise than
>IT/business but but wouldn't at least some of the Linux geeks rather be
>rock stars .:)
>Chris
>
>
>chuck duffy wrote:
>> Hi Neil,
>>
>> It can be as streamlied as you want. It doesn't run any steiny apps,
or
>> pro tools, or really any commercial daw. So for 'our' uses as recordists,
>> it's usability is about nil right now. A lot of people would take exception
>> to that comment, but it's a practical statement.
>>
>> It's cool to have a separate machine for the browsing stuff. Some people
>> want it all on one box :-)
>>
>> I can't tell you guys enough how cool virtual machines are though.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>> Hey Chuck... I have a whole separate machine for that other
>>> stuff... the only time my DAW rig sees the internet is when I
>>> have to download an update or plugin. I was just wondering if
>>> Linux is less bloated/more streamlined, and would run audio
>>> better.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Neil,
>>>>
>>>> For the desktop ... Linux is great for surfing/browsing/document editing/administration/playing
>>>> audio video.
>>>>
>>>> What works great is to run the OS you want for audio, and install a
linux
>>>> virtual machine on it. This will allow you to safely browse and do
whatever
>>>> the heck else you want, while leaving your base machine completely untouched.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.comj> wrote:
>>>>> "Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> What I
>>>>>> think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed
>>> a
>>>>>> "religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions
>>>> to
>>>>>> jump ship and join you...
>>>>> While I understand from whence you're coming with that statement,
>>>>> I personally fail to see the logic behind that sentiment (not
>>>>> your's, the zealots), I mean WTF difference does it make? Mac/
>>>>> PC, Windoze/Linux Cubase/Paris/Pro-Tools - I could care less...
>>>>> just gimme something that works & is at least somewhat
>>>>> intuitive, and is reasonably-priced.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can Linux work with CubaseSX? If so, I'd be willing to give it a
>>>>> shot. or do I need to be a total tweakhead to be able to set up
>>>>> a Linux box?
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
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David,
Wow! So no artifacts across a whole mix? Can you alter speed=20
without altering pitch? That's the ticket for me.
So for effecting vocal channels and possibly a whole mix for tempo
with use in Paris and Cubase which version would you suggest?
I guess I only need one channel (stereo) if it has to process offline =
all the time.
Am I right?
Sounds like studio is the full mix version that I'd want huh?
Thanks for the info.
Tom
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
news:45c7bfd2$1@linux...
It really depends on what you are using it for. The plugin has all=20
the standard features, whereas the "essential" and "uno" versions only =
offer manual pitch correction. The Cre8 version is good if you want=20
to make backing vocal tracks from a lead vocal, without having to have =
several plugins open at one time. The Studio version is just that, a=20
fully featured recording and editing package. The quality is the same =
regardless of the version. The one thing that Studio does that the=20
others don't do is manipulating polyphonic files, like guitars, keys,=20
or even entire mixes. The time manipulation capabilities on a full=20
mix is nothing short of amazing.
For most "tuning" uses, the plugin works great.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> David,
> So there's no real-time automatic mode? Maybe standalone on my =
Paris comp
> is the way to go then. A friend of mine has the full blown version=20
> around here.
> I'll have to get a demo from him. He loves it with Logic.
> =20
> Is the polyphonic version as good quality as it gets? Worth the =
extra cash?
> Tom
> =20
> =20
>=20
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:45c7b357@linux...
> Just to explain... the Melodyne plugin has to "record" the track =
from
> the host first... in real time. Then you can manipulate the =
sound
> during playback. One issue here... if you try to go back to the =
track
> (not that you need to) and make additional edits, these edits =
will
> have to be recorded into Melodyne again. You would lose what =
work you
> have already done. Rule of thumb is to make sure your edits are
> finished, then "polish" with the Melodyne plug.
>=20
> David.
>=20
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Okay then via spdf to Cubase and back then? Realtime in auto
> mode anyway?
> > I guess I'll have to render and drag over to Cubase for =
processing
> > otherwise huh?
> > I think I need another MEC now that I think of it. Good for =
another
> > ADAT and SPDF
> > with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT 20 for the
> rack space...
> > Maybe 1.3 will do...
> >=20
> > I really like realtime everything.
> > Poor old analog me
> >=20
> >=20
> >
> > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net =
<mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>
> <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>> wrote in
> > message news:45c7a9df@linux...
> > My guess is it won't work as well.
> >
> >
> > "EKE Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > message news:45c79b4c@linux...
> > >I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work in
> Paris... it
> > utilizes
> > >VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a stand alone
> app... maybe
> > that
> > >would be a better bet for you.
> > >
> > > David.
> > >
> > > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > >> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
> > >> Is it totally functional except for automation?
> > >> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual work =
arounds.
> > >> Good to go in Paris?
> > >>
> > >> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > >> message news:45c77878$1@linux...
> > >> Autotune 5 now has time locked graphical mode.=20
> Previously,
> > Autotune
> > >> was unable to extract the timebase from the =
project
> (I guess
> > DX does
> > >> not support this). Now that it is VST, they are =
able to
> > include this.
> > >> Previously, you would have to work from the =
exact
> same point
> > >> everytime... which is why they generally =
recommend
> you work
> > on one
> > >> line at a time, and render each line when you =
have
> finished
> > tuning.
> > >> With version 5, you can work on any point in the =
time
> line
> > with no
> > >> troubles. That being said, Melodyne kicks the =
snot
> out of
> > Autotune!!
> > >>
> > >> David.
> > >>
> > >> Chris Ludwig wrote:
> > >> > Haven't tried it but I think only the newest =
VST
> version of
> > >> autotune has
> > >> > a functional graphical mode.
> > >> >
> > >> > Chris
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Don Nafe wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi guys
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Cubase newbie here
> > >> >>
> > >> >> just wondering if there's a trick to using
> graphical mode in
> > >> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a simple vocal =
track
> > staring at
> > >> "0" and
> > >> >> I see the graph showing up after the vocals
> > start...about a 1/2
> > >> second
> > >> >> or so.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Am I missing something here?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> DOn
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for the info.</FONT></DIV>
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that, a=20
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the=20
same <BR>regardless of the version. The one thing that Studio =
does that=20
the <BR>others don't do is manipulating polyphonic files, like =
guitars, keys,=20
<BR>or even entire mixes. The time manipulation capabilities on =
a full=20
<BR>mix is nothing short of amazing.<BR><BR>For most "tuning" uses, =
the plugin=20
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David,<BR>> So=20
there's no real-time automatic mode? Maybe standalone on my =
Paris=20
comp<BR>> is the way to go then. A friend of mine has the =
full blown=20
version <BR>> around here.<BR>> I'll have to get a demo from =
him. =20
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------=_NextPart_000_00FD_01C7496B.A7C21030--I understand the reasoning behind an open source model, but at least
from the audio community perspective, the Linux community could be biting
the hand that feeds it... well... could feed it very tiny morsels of musical
goodness. Not exactly corporate IT... :-)
Licenses aren't getting more open in the audio world - if anything they are
tightening. I guess that means we will probably never see audio apps on
Linux - looks like Zeta really might have a better chance.
I doubt Ubuntu Studio is going to supplant Nuendo, Protools and Final Cut
Pro anytime soon.
Dedric
On 2/5/07 7:18 PM, in article 45c7d76a$1@linux, "chuk duffy" <c@c.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I think you are right. AFAIK Steiny code is 100% cross platform c and c++.
> The SDK, publicly available, includes examples that will compile on anything.
> The linux community wont get behind vst/asio because it's 'closed source',
> the SDK uses the wrong license model...
>
> Chuck
>
> Chuck
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> There was at one point a fully function version of Nuendo 1.0 on BeOS
>> that Steinberg was close to making available but Be went bye bye.
>> Nuendo and Cubase are both developed on Unix so that they can keep the
>> cross platform part more manageable.
>> I would think that once if ever the Linux world decided they want be a
>> viable contender in the audio/video world instead of just the
>> network/business world then we will see a bunch of current apps make the
>
>> jump. The audio/video is much much smaller world money wise than
>> IT/business but but wouldn't at least some of the Linux geeks rather be
>
>> rock stars .:)
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>> Hi Neil,
>>>
>>> It can be as streamlied as you want. It doesn't run any steiny apps,
> or
>>> pro tools, or really any commercial daw. So for 'our' uses as recordists,
>>> it's usability is about nil right now. A lot of people would take exception
>>> to that comment, but it's a practical statement.
>>>
>>> It's cool to have a separate machine for the browsing stuff. Some people
>>> want it all on one box :-)
>>>
>>> I can't tell you guys enough how cool virtual machines are though.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey Chuck... I have a whole separate machine for that other
>>>> stuff... the only time my DAW rig sees the internet is when I
>>>> have to download an update or plugin. I was just wondering if
>>>> Linux is less bloated/more streamlined, and would run audio
>>>> better.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Neil,
>>>>>
>>>>> For the desktop ... Linux is great for surfing/browsing/document
>>>>> editing/administration/playing
>>>>> audio video.
>>>>>
>>>>> What works great is to run the OS you want for audio, and install a
> linux
>>>>> virtual machine on it. This will allow you to safely browse and do
> whatever
>>>>> the heck else you want, while leaving your base machine completely
>>>>> untouched.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.comj> wrote:
>>>>>> "Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> What I
>>>>>>> think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed
>>>> a
>>>>>>> "religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions
>>>>> to
>>>>>>> jump ship and join you...
>>>>>> While I understand from whence you're coming with that statement,
>>>>>> I personally fail to see the logic behind that sentiment (not
>>>>>> your's, the zealots), I mean WTF difference does it make? Mac/
>>>>>> PC, Windoze/Linux Cubase/Paris/Pro-Tools - I could care less...
>>>>>> just gimme something that works & is at least somewhat
>>>>>> intuitive, and is reasonably-priced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can Linux work with CubaseSX? If so, I'd be willing to give it a
>>>>>> shot. or do I need to be a total tweakhead to be able to set up
>>>>>> a Linux box?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>Joel's gotta get a handle on his rider I'd say. I'm sure he didn't want
that box riding his path THAT hard. It was right on the edge of silly.
W. Mark Wilson
"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:45c75a19$1@linux...
>
> I think Prince is extremely talented. Naturally, you can't have a Super
> Bowl
> half time without a little of the "Debbie Allen" effect, but he was far
> better
> than most.
>
> The mix was unfortunate, but with the rain, I wouldn't be surprised if
> they
> lost the main mix feed and we were listening to a sage monitor mix. If
> not,
> I'm certain some technical problems were involved. Anything is possible
> in that environment. All the more reason to give him credit for pulling
> it off in the pouring rain.
>
> Gene
> "Carl Amburn" <carlamburn@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>>Oh, I was really looking forward to Billy Joel's singing to be at least
>>decent - but lordy did they make it vocoder weird with autotuning. Please
>>tell me I'm not the only person that heard it.
>>
>>Prince is the shiz tho' - it was sooo refreshing to see the real
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deal.
>>
>>rock on,
>>-Carl
>>
>>
>> The linux community wont get behind vst/asio because it's 'closed source',
> the SDK uses the wrong license model...
I've seen some pretty heated arguments about licensing models...
[Dredging up an old war story - delete at will if you've heard it before.]
It was interesting interacting with Paul Davis about Ardour. Several years
ago, I volunteered to port Ardour to OS X, but he didn't want to have any
part of it at the time, claiming that OS X was proprietary and closed
source. (Only partly true.) Later on, someone apparently offered Paul
money if he would port it to OS X, so I guess he changed his mind...
Doug (Amazing how many people change their minds for money...)
http://www.parisfaqs.com> I can't tell you guys enough how cool virtual machines are though.
Parallels and VMware are both amazing tools!
Doug
http://www.parisfaqs.com> And man if you ever pass through PHX airport you have to check out the
> GINORMOUS
> LED display we did for the parking lot :-)
Next time I'm up there, I'll look for it!
Doug (You didn't work with those Boston advertisers did you?)
http://www.parisfaqs.comI used the 421's and still have them, but started using these Audix D-2s
on the high toms of my Yamaha Recording Customs, and the Audix D-6 on the
low tom. There is no comparison on the high toms, the 421s hands down sound
better, I'm just too lazy to change them back. But I don't miss having the
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was unable to extract the timebase from =
the
> project
> > (I guess
> > > DX does
> > > >> not support this). Now that it is VST, =
they
> are able to
> > > include this.
> > > >> Previously, you would have to work from =
the
> exact
> > same point
> > > >> everytime... which is why they generally =
recommend
> > you work
> > > on one
> > > >> line at a time, and render each line when =
you have
> > finished
> > > tuning.
> > > >> With version 5, you can work on any point =
in
> the time
> > line
> > > with no
> > > >> troubles. That being said, Melodyne kicks =
the
> snot
> > out of
> > > Autotune!!
> > > >>
> > > >> David.
> > > >>
> > > >> Chris Ludwig wrote:
> > > >> > Haven't tried it but I think only the
> newest VST
> > version of
> > > >> autotune has
> > > >> > a functional graphical mode.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Chris
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Don Nafe wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hi guys
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Cubase newbie here
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> just wondering if there's a trick to =
using
> > graphical mode in
> > > >> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a =
simple
> vocal track
> > > staring at
> > > >> "0" and
> > > >> >> I see the graph showing up after the =
vocals
> > > start...about a 1/2
> > > >> second
> > > >> >> or so.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Am I missing something here?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> DOn
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and =
you?
> > > >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > >
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<DIV>"Dave(EK Sound)" <<A=20
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t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:45c7f392@linux">news:45c7f392@linux</A>...</DIV>I =
wouldn't say "no=20
artifacts" but the results are really <BR>good... but I doubt if I =
would use=20
it to re-pitch or re-time <BR>a song on an album... just individual=20
tracks. The guy <BR>giving the demo at NAMM turned a regular 4 =
on the=20
floor tune <BR>into a shuffle with it. If you wanted to use it for=20
<BR>realigning drum tracks ala Beat Detective, the Studio <BR>version =
would=20
work best.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Tom Bruhl wrote:<BR>> =
David,<BR>>=20
Wow! So no artifacts across a whole mix? Can you alter=20
speed<BR>> without altering pitch? That's the ticket for=20
me.<BR>> <BR>> So for effecting vocal channels and =
possibly a=20
whole mix for tempo<BR>> with use in Paris and Cubase which version =
would=20
you suggest?<BR>> I guess I only need one channel (stereo) if it =
has to=20
process offline <BR>> all the time.<BR>> Am I =
right?<BR>> =20
<BR>> Sounds like studio is the full mix version that I'd want =
huh?<BR>>=20
Thanks for the info.<BR>> Tom<BR>> <BR>>=20
<BR>> "EK Sound" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A> <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:askme@nospam.com</A>>> =
wrote=20
in<BR>> message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c7bfd2$1@linux">news:45c7bfd2$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
It really depends on what you are using it for. The plugin has=20
all<BR>> the standard features, whereas the =
"essential" and "uno" versions only<BR>> =
offer=20
manual pitch correction. The Cre8 version is good if you=20
want<BR>> to make backing vocal tracks from =
a lead=20
vocal, without having to have<BR>> several =
plugins=20
open at one time. The Studio version is just that,=20
a<BR>> fully featured recording and editing =
package. The quality is the same<BR>> =
regardless of the version. The one thing that Studio does that=20
the<BR>> others don't do is manipulating =
polyphonic=20
files, like guitars, keys,<BR>> or even =
entire=20
mixes. The time manipulation capabilities on a=20
full<BR>> mix is nothing short of =
amazing.<BR>>=20
<BR>> For most "tuning" uses, the plugin =
works=20
great.<BR>> <BR>> David.<BR>>=20
<BR>> Tom Bruhl=20
wrote:<BR>> >=20
David,<BR>> > So there's no =
real-time=20
automatic mode? Maybe standalone on =
my<BR>> =20
Paris comp<BR>> > is the way to go =
then. A friend of mine has the full blown=20
version<BR>> > around=20
here.<BR>> > I'll have to get a =
demo from=20
him. He loves it with =
Logic.<BR>> >=20
<BR>> > Is the polyphonic version =
as good=20
quality as it gets? Worth the<BR>> =
extra=20
cash?<BR>> >=20
Tom<BR>> >=20
<BR>> >=20
<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> =
> "EK=20
Sound" <<A href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A> =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:askme@nospam.com</A>><BR>>&=
nbsp; =20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:askme@nospam.com</A>>>=20
wrote in<BR>> =
> =20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c7b357@linux">news:45c7b357@linux</A>...<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
> Just to explain... the Melodyne plugin =
has to=20
"record" the<BR>> track=20
from<BR>> =
> the=20
host first... in real time. Then you can manipulate=20
the<BR>> =20
sound<BR>> =
> =20
during playback. One issue here... if you try to go back=20
to<BR>> the=20
track<BR>> =
> (not=20
that you need to) and make additional edits, these=20
edits<BR>> =20
will<BR>> =
> have=20
to be recorded into Melodyne again. You would lose=20
what<BR>> work=20
you<BR>> > =
have=20
already done. Rule of thumb is to make sure your edits=20
are<BR>> > =
finished, then "polish" with the Melodyne=20
plug.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> =
> =20
David.<BR> > =2 0
><BR>> =
> Tom=20
Bruhl wrote:<BR> > =2 0
> > Okay then via spdf to Cubase =
and back=20
then? Realtime in auto<BR> > =2 0
> mode=20
anyway?<BR> > =2 0
> > I guess I'll have to render =
and drag=20
over to Cubase for<BR>> =20
processing<BR> > =2 0
> > otherwise=20
huh?<BR>> =
> =2 0
> I think I need another MEC now that I think of it. =20
Good<BR>> for=20
another<BR> > =2 0
> > ADAT and=20
SPDF<BR>> =
> =2 0
> with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT 20 for=20
the<BR>> > =
rack=20
space...<BR> > =2 0
> > Maybe 1.3 will=20
do...<BR>> =
> =2 0
><BR>> =
> =2 0
> I really like realtime =
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> > Poor old analog=20
me<BR>> =
> =2 0
><BR>> =
> =2 0
><BR>> =
> =2 0
><BR>> =
> =2 0
> "Mark McCurdy" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mark@mccurdy.net">mark@mccurdy.net</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:mark@mccurdy.net">mailto:mark@mccurdy.net</A>> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:mark@mccurdy.net">mailto:mark@mccurdy.net</A>><BR>>&=
nbsp; =20
> <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:mark@mccurdy.net">mailto:mark@mccurdy.net</A>>> =
wrote=20
in<BR>> =
> =2 0
> message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c7a9df@linux">news:45c7a9df@linux</A>...<BR>> &nbs=
p; =20
> > My =
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> =
><BR> > =2 0
> =
><BR> > =2 0
> > "EKE =
Sound"=20
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A><BR>> =
=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:askme@nospam.com</A>> <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">mailto:askme@nospam.com</A>><BR>>&=
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> <<A=20
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wrote=20
in<BR>> =
> =2 0
> message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c79b4c@linux">news:45c79b4c@linux</A>...<BR>> &nbs=
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> > =
>I=20
seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would work=20
in<BR>> > =
Paris...=20
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> =2 0
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> > =
>VST=20
V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a stand=20
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> > =20
that<BR>> =
> =2 0
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> =2 0
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><BR> > =2 0
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>=20
David.<BR> > =2 0
> > =2 0
><BR>> =
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> > =
>>=20
Anybody using Melodyne in Paris =
here?<BR> > =2 0
> > =
>>=20
Is it totally functional except for=20
automation?<BR> > =2 0
> > =
>>=20
I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the usual=20
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> > =2 0
>> Good to go in =
Paris?<BR> > =2 0
> > =2 0
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href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com">askme@nospam.com</A><BR>> =
=20
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wrote=20
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> =2 0
> >> =
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c77878$1@linux">news:45c77878$1@linux</A>...<BR>> =
=20
> > =2 0
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------=_NextPart_000_011D_01C74979.F6760A70--Yes, it has a time alignment / quantizing feature that can
shift a vocal so it lines up with the time base of the
project. It actually will stretch each note (or drum
hit/decay) so that it fills in the gaps. Much easier to use
than beat detective IMHO. To do this with a fully mic'd up
kit ( > 8 tracks) you would need the studio version.
Here is the line feature comparison:
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=product_comparison& amp;L=0
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Oh it does that too?!!! That sounds even better!
>
> Cool stuff. I'll be checking it out.
>
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca
> <mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca>> wrote in message
> news:45c7f392@linux...
> I wouldn't say "no artifacts" but the results are really
> good... but I doubt if I would use it to re-pitch or re-time
> a song on an album... just individual tracks. The guy
> giving the demo at NAMM turned a regular 4 on the floor tune
> into a shuffle with it. If you wanted to use it for
> realigning drum tracks ala Beat Detect
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| Re: Holy Smokes Batman! Check out the new Apple iPhone! [message #78283 is a reply to message #78272] |
Fri, 12 January 2007 18:26   |
Dedric Terry
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|
Senior Member |
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|
t; > > > >> Previously, you would have to work
> from the
> > exact
> > > same point
> > > > >> everytime... which is why they
> generally recommend
> > > you work
> > > > on one
> > > > >> line at a time, and render each line
> when you have
> > > finished
> > > > tuning.
> > > > >> With version 5, you can work on any
> point in
> > the time
> > > line
> > > > with no
> > > > >> troubles. That being said, Melodyne
> kicks the
> > snot
> > > out of
> > > > Autotune!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> David.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Chris Ludwig wrote:
> > > > >> > Haven't tried it but I think only the
> > newest VST
> > > version of
> > > > >> autotune has
> > > > >> > a functional graphical mode.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Chris
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Don Nafe wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> Hi guys
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Cubase newbie here
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> just wondering if there's a trick
> to using
> > > graphical mode in
> > > > >> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a simple
> > vocal track
> > > > staring at
> > > > >> "0" and
> > > > >> >> I see the graph showing up after
> the vocals
> > > > start...about a 1/2
> > > > >> second
> > > > >> >> or so.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Am I missing something here?
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> DOn
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam,
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> > > > >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > > >Last summer I purchased a used Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939. I just recently got
it up and running. It was a little tempermental to get working but I have
had this issue before with NForce based mobos so I didn't think much of it.
the last couple of days the performance has been steadily worsening. with
increasingly ominous BSOD's justcoming from nowhere. Today, it finally just
gave up. I replaced every piece of connected gear, cable, PSU to no avail.
Well, I had been so impressed with this one originally that I bought two
more on EBay a couple weeks ago. It's a good thing. I just popped the fan
off the CPU of the dead board, pulled the processor and RAM, put them in the
new board, installed the fan and hooked everything up and the new one works
and appears much more stable than the previous one. I guess it was on it's
last legs.
This will be my last AGP based DAW, but this sure is a nice, fast mobo. By
far the best I've ever used in a native DAW. Now I need to test my remaining
backup to make sure it works.
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I recently bought two Acer AL2216W s that are 22" widescreens.
Sweet with Cubase. $300 per wasn't bad at Circuit City.
Still waiting for two $50 rebates though.
Tom
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
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Bought them today. A pair of 2407's, an NVidia GEForce 6800 Xtreme =
with=20
512MB RAM and a pair of 5 meter DVI-D cables to hook them up. I was in =
a=20
print shop earlier today and saw a 22" Dell wide screen running =
analog. It=20
was very nice and detailed and a pair of these would have probably =
worked,=20
but I think that having the bit of extra screen real estate is =
something=20
I'll be glad I did. I really like the adjustability of these monitors. =
Being=20
able to raise and lower them will really help the ergonomic mojo here.
Deej
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message=20
news:45c76e24@linux...
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c61ddf$1@linux...
>> I use a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice =
monitor.
>
> I'm using a dual 24" Dell setup at work. We even have three =
visualization=20
> walls that each have 15 (!) of the 24" Dells in a three row by five =
column=20
> arrangement.
>
> Doug (And yes, we're using Linux on them...) ;-)
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.com
>=20
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I recently bought two Acer AL2216W s =
that are 22"=20
widescreens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sweet with Cubase. $300 per =
wasn't bad at=20
Circuit City.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still waiting for two $50 rebates=20
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c7ad5e$1@linux">news:45c7ad5e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Bought =
them=20
today. A pair of 2407's, an NVidia GEForce 6800 Xtreme with <BR>512MB =
RAM and=20
a pair of 5 meter DVI-D cables to hook them up. I was in a <BR>print =
shop=20
earlier today and saw a 22" Dell wide screen running analog. It =
<BR>was very=20
nice and detailed and a pair of these would have probably worked, =
<BR>but I=20
think that having the bit of extra screen real estate is something =
<BR>I'll be=20
glad I did. I really like the adjustability of these monitors. Being =
<BR>able=20
to raise and lower them will really help the ergonomic mojo=20
here.<BR><BR>Deej<BR><BR>"Doug Wellington" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:doug@parisfaqs.com">doug@parisfaqs.com</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<BR><A href=3D"news:45c76e24@linux">news:45c76e24@linux</A>...<BR>> =
"TCB"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c61ddf$1@linux">news:45c61ddf$1@linux</A>...<BR>>> =
I use a=20
single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice =
monitor.<BR>><BR>>=20
I'm using a dual 24" Dell setup at work. We even have three=20
visualization <BR>> walls that each have 15 (!) of the 24" Dells in =
a three=20
row by five column <BR>> arrangement.<BR>><BR>> Doug =
(And yes,=20
we're using Linux on them...) ;-)<BR>><BR>> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.parisfaqs.com">http://www.parisfaqs.com</A><BR>> =
<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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------=_NextPart_000_016A_01C74984.26877230--What I do is create a new audio track, cut the offending vocal phrase, and
paste a copy to the new track.
Insert Autotune.
Select the segment and press P (which puts the in/out markers at the
beginning and end of the segment)
Go to the in marker, open Autotune, go to graphical mode, then tell it to
track the audio.
Press play, then stop at the end of the audio.
Now the trick is to ALWAYS begin playback at the "in" marker.
When you have it the way you want it, set Autotune to correct the audio,
then solo the segment and render it, adding it to the project.
David
On 5-Feb-2007, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in Cubase...I
> tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at "0" and I see the
> graph
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I wish we had a circuit city here. Actually there is one about 50 miles =
south of here in Farmington NM. I think there is a Best Buy there =
too.....and even a mall........
Last time I was at a mall was almost 3 years ago in Phoneix. In fact, I =
think there are more malls in Phoenix than anywhere on earth. It's the =
only place that people can gather there without frying like ants under a =
magnifying glass........wait.........I went to a mall in LA last March =
but no one spoke English. Even the merchandise was advertized in =
Spanish. =20
;o)
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:45c80fa8@linux...
I recently bought two Acer AL2216W s that are 22" widescreens.
Sweet with Cubase. $300 per wasn't bad at Circuit City.
Still waiting for two $50 rebates though.
Tom
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:45c7ad5e$1@linux...
Bought them today. A pair of 2407's, an NVidia GEForce 6800 Xtreme =
with=20
512MB RAM and a pair of 5 meter DVI-D cables to hook them up. I was =
in a=20
print shop earlier today and saw a 22" Dell wide screen running =
analog. It=20
was very nice and detailed and a pair of these would have probably =
worked,=20
but I think that having the bit of extra screen real estate is =
something=20
I'll be glad I did. I really like the adjustability of these =
monitors. Being=20
able to raise and lower them will really help the ergonomic mojo =
here.
Deej
"Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote in message=20
news:45c76e24@linux...
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message =
news:45c61ddf$1@linux...
>> I use a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice =
monitor.
>
> I'm using a dual 24" Dell setup at work. We even have three =
visualization=20
> walls that each have 15 (!) of the 24" Dells in a three row by =
five column=20
> arrangement.
>
> Doug (And yes, we're using Linux on them...) ;-)
>
> http://www.parisfaqs.com
>=20
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wish we had a circuit city here. =
Actually there=20
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Best=20
Buy there too.....and even a mall........</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Last time I was at a mall was almost 3 =
years ago in=20
Phoneix. In fact, I think there are more malls in Phoenix than anywhere =
on=20
earth. It's the only place that people can gather there without frying =
like ants=20
under a magnifying glass........wait.........I went to a mall in LA =
last=20
March but no one spoke English. Even the merchandise was advertized=20
in Spanish. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:45c80fa8@linux">news:45c80fa8@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I recently bought two Acer AL2216W s =
that are 22"=20
widescreens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sweet with Cubase. $300 per =
wasn't bad at=20
Circuit City.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Still waiting for two $50 rebates=20
though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c7ad5e$1@linux">news:45c7ad5e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Bought =
them=20
today. A pair of 2407's, an NVidia GEForce 6800 Xtreme with =
<BR>512MB RAM=20
and a pair of 5 meter DVI-D cables to hook them up. I was in a =
<BR>print=20
shop earlier today and saw a 22" Dell wide screen running analog. It =
<BR>was=20
very nice and detailed and a pair of these would have probably =
worked,=20
<BR>but I think that having the bit of extra screen real estate is =
something=20
<BR>I'll be glad I did. I really like the adjustability of these =
monitors.=20
Being <BR>able to raise and lower them will really help the =
ergonomic mojo=20
here.<BR><BR>Deej<BR><BR>"Doug Wellington" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:doug@parisfaqs.com">doug@parisfaqs.com</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<BR><A =
href=3D"news:45c76e24@linux">news:45c76e24@linux</A>...<BR>> "TCB"=20
<<A href=3D"mailto:nobody@ishere.com">nobody@ishere.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:45c61ddf$1@linux">news:45c61ddf$1@linux</A>...<BR>>> =
I use=20
a single Dell 24" at home and it's been a really nice=20
monitor.<BR>><BR>> I'm using a dual 24" Dell setup at =
work. We=20
even have three visualization <BR>> walls that each have 15 (!) =
of the=20
24" Dells in a three row by five column <BR>>=20
arrangement.<BR>><BR>> Doug (And yes, we're using Linux =
on=20
them...) ;-)<BR>><BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.parisfaqs.com">http://www.parisfaqs.com</A><BR>>=20
<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><BR><BR>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
and=20
you?<BR><A=20
=
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------=_NextPart_000_011D_01C74979.194066F0--If you're doing say 20 tracks or less, you probably won't notice much.
It's when you start in crowding up the mix trying to shoe horn everything
under the sun into it that Paris kills ALL other DAWs IMO. I noticed this
immediately coming from adat machines (choked out around 20-23 tracks) on a
mackie console when I jumped to Paris from hardware. Thicken up your mix,
layer a bunch of stuff and tell me what you hear - bet you'll find the same
mojo man if you apples to apples a mix.
AA
"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:45c77a1b$1@linux...
>I hate to say it, but I think it is all personal preference.
> The truth of it is a lot of the hits we all know and love were not
> recorded/mixed in PARIS. I am sure many were done with
> Cubase and ProTools and all the other DAWs.
> I have been working with Cubase tutorial files and
> I must say they sound pretty good to me.
> A lot better than anything I have done in PARIS thus far.
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c775d4$1@linux...
>>
>> Don't be so sure. I'm very impressed with my presonus digimax fs pres
>> and
>> cubase 4.
>>
>> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >One thing for sure, Cubase can't beat the Paris sound :-)
>> >
>> >Bjorn R
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
> news:45c76c1d$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I jumped over to Paris one year ago.
>> >> By then I was struggkling for years and years with Cubase from Cubase
>> >VST32
>> >> over to Cubase 5 over to SX ...
>> >> I was never being able to achieve professional results like the
> platinum
>> >> selling mixes and was straining to make a mix satisfying to my ears
>> >> (at
>> >least).
>> >> Putting numerous compressor ,sometimes on each channel , driving me
> crazy
>> >> to make things distinguished one from other inside a mix.
>> >> Even when I bought me the pulsars ,although way better results the
>> >combiantion
>> >> of Pulsar and SX did not quite did it...
>> >> Then when I got me Paris something revealing arose.
>> >> With good efforts I can make a great mix I can make the cklient happy
>> and
>> >> the killer paris_Pulsar combination is the way to go for me.
>> >> Here is one suggestion before you leave Paris.
>> >> Buy one Pulsar card ,6 dsp is fine.
>> >> Keep a couple of mecs , or three like me, or four like I wanna be when
>> I
>> >> grow...
>> >> Attach the adats to Pulsar adats and use the mixer -routing effecting
>> >possibilities
>> >> from inside Pulsar.
>> >> Pulsar has great compressors, Timeworks is a brilliant example, has
>> >> The
>> >SPL
>> >> transient designer (what a plugin !!) has vinco compressor (1176)
>> >timeworks
>> >> fantastic vintage eq, and has the greatest third party effects (many
>> are
>> >> free) of any platform.
>> >> Now use your Paris ONLY for mixing leveling eq'ing.
>> >> Disable DX disable VST (although vertex is a must !)
>> >> So better disable DX (you don't need them !! believe me)at least
>> >> inside
>> >Paris,
>> >> and use ONLY the vertex group manager , latency compensator on every
>> >channel,
>> >> EXTREMELY stable without any wrapper, this guy knows how to program !
>> >> Then using the adat ports send a track over to scope put a Compressor
>> X or
>> >> Vinco compressor, put maybe a SPL transient designer plugin for extra
>> >punch,some
>> >> great reverb like Masterverb Pro or Timeworks 4080L and send it back.
>> >> Do you wanna know the latency from Paris to Scope-To Compressor to
> paris
>> >> again ?
>> >> 27 samples !!
>> >> yes 27.
>> >> Now if that is much use vertex and it sounds realtime.
>> >> A heavy load of Compressor plus Designer plus Eq gives you a 74
>> >> samples
>> >latency
>> >> !
>> >> Less than 1ms nudge in Paris.
>> >> use vertex again or nudge back.
>> >> Your Paris will never crash cause no DX plugin will cause it.
>> >> Ok the editing has some bugs but you know them ...
>> >> I will hold on with Paris until I will be the last obne here.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dimitrios
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>FWIW, I liked BeOS and I was kinda pissed about the whole 'appliance'
application it became.
AA
<destroy_all_monsters destroy_all_monsters[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
news:45c7713f$1@linux...
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Has anybody tried this? Any thoughts?
>>
>>http://www.zeta-os.com/cms/custom/zeta/indexe.php
>
> It's an updated version of Be OS. Be OS is the operating system used in
> iZ's
> RADAR. If you're using RADAR you're essentially using it already.I have run on the Audix D series stuff. Killer. Have Shures and it's not
quite enough to dump my mic collection over, but if I was buying new it'd be
all Audix on the kicks/toms.
AA
"rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:45c78c98$1@linux...
>
> Everyone still using 57's and or 421's for toms? Just checking to see if
> anyone is using something other than those for pop/rock and liking it...
>
> Thanks again!Yes, I use it all the time across the master in Samplitude. I need to
listen to the updated v2 and see if I want to upgrade.
It can be over-the-top and it can be subtle. It just depends on how you
set it. A good approach is explained here:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showpost.php3?p=292977&po stcount=27
Graham
Brandon wrote:
>
> Any of you guys use this?
> Is it good strapped across the main stereo mix?
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> BrandonHi all. I am wondering what different uses everyone is using with their ADAT
card (try not to get to technical). I bought one a while back to interface
with a ADAT tape machine for backup, but never acquired one. I know there
are a limited amount of mixers out there (with in price reason) that have
a ADAT out so you could easily bring in 8 tracks from a mixer via the ADAT
card. Are you people finding other uses. I am not a ADAT expert, but isn't
the lightpipe 8in AND 8out via the lightpipe ADAT card? Anyway, if i don't
find some use for this thing, I may consider to let go of it... Just trying
to get some ideas other than traditional ADAT card to ADAT tape.
Edi use one of my 414's in the M/S config
On 6 Feb 2007 07:40:35 +1000, "John Macy" <spamlessjohn@johnmacy.com>
wrote:
>
>414's first call for me...
>
>Assuming there are no 251's available :)
>
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>421'sThat's exactly what I have done, but as soon as I hit play to start working
on the track I notice the audio is not lining up with the graph in Auto tune
(1/2 a second ahead)...also when I hit stop auto tune returns to the start
point and then the curser line starts moving across the graph again..
This is really weird because just before Christmas I was attempting to
repair a vocal line and it worked like a charm....very odd
"David L" <david@revealaudio.com> wrote in message news:45c815bc@linux...
> What I do is create a new audio track, cut the offending vocal phrase, and
> paste a copy to the new track.
> Insert Autotune.
> Select the segment and press P (which puts the in/out markers at the
> beginning and end of the segment)
> Go to the in marker, open Autotune, go to graphical mode, then tell it to
> track the audio.
> Press play, then stop at the end of the audio.
> Now the trick is to ALWAYS begin playback at the "in" marker.
> When you have it the way you want it, set Autotune to correct the audio,
> then solo the segment and render it, adding it to the project.
>
> David
>
>
> On 5-Feb-2007, "Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>
>> just wondering if there's a trick to using graphical mode in Cubase...I
>> tried running it on a simple vocal track staring at "0" and I see the
>> graph
>> showing up after the vocals start...about a 1/2 second or so.Hi Ed,
You can use it
with multi channel pres that have ADAT out
to interface to another audio card (say RME) on another coumputer, or the
same computer to fly tracks out for external processing
to interface to another audio card to fly in virtual instruments that paris
doesn't support
to interface with effects boxes that have ADAT connections
basically anything that requires realtime digital connections to another
setup.
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all. I am wondering what different uses everyone is using with their
ADAT
>card (try not to get to technical). I bought one a while back to interface
>with a ADAT tape machine for backup, but never acquired one. I know there
>are a limited amount of mixers out there (with in price reason) that have
>a ADAT out so you could easily bring in 8 tracks from a mixer via the ADAT
>card. Are you people finding other uses. I am not a ADAT expert, but isn't
>the lightpipe 8in AND 8out via the lightpipe ADAT card? Anyway, if i don't
>find some use for this thing, I may consider to let go of it... Just trying
>to get some ideas other than traditional ADAT card to ADAT tape.
>
>Ed
>Dedric,
I really meant that VST uses the wrong model to the linux guys.
I can download the VST SDK, including source for several example plugs, build
them on two platforms, and distribute new plugins royalty free - that's free
enough for me :-)
Chuck
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>I understand the reasoning behind an open source model, but at least
>from the audio community perspective, the Linux community could be biting
>the hand that feeds it... well... could feed it very tiny morsels of musical
>goodness. Not exactly corporate IT... :-)
>
>Licenses aren't getting more open in the audio world - if anything they
are
>tightening. I guess that means we will probably never see audio apps on
>Linux - looks like Zeta really might have a better chance.
>
>I doubt Ubuntu Studio is going to supplant Nuendo, Protools and Final Cut
>Pro anytime soon.
>
>Dedric
>
>On 2/5/07 7:18 PM, in article 45c7d76a$1@linux, "chuk duffy" <c@c.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I think you are right. AFAIK Steiny code is 100% cross platform c and
c++.
>> The SDK, publicly available, includes examples that will compile on anything.
>> The linux community wont get behind vst/asio because it's 'closed source',
>> the SDK uses the wrong license model...
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> There was at one point a fully function version of Nuendo 1.0 on BeOS
>>> that Steinberg was close to making available but Be went bye bye.
>>> Nuendo and Cubase are both developed on Unix so that they can keep the
>>> cross platform part more manageable.
>>> I would think that once if ever the Linux world decided they want be
a
>>> viable contender in the audio/video world instead of just the
>>> network/business world then we will see a bunch of current apps make
the
>>
>>> jump. The audio/video is much much smaller world money wise than
>>> IT/business but but wouldn't at least some of the Linux geeks rather
be
>>
>>> rock stars .:)
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> chuck duffy wrote:
>>>> Hi Neil,
>>>>
>>>> It can be as streamlied as you want. It doesn't run any steiny apps,
>> or
>>>> pro tools, or really any commercial daw. So for 'our' uses as recordists,
>>>> it's usability is about nil right now. A lot of people would take exception
>>>> to that comment, but it's a practical statement.
>>>>
>>>> It's cool to have a separate machine for the browsing stuff. Some people
>>>> want it all on one box :-)
>>>>
>>>> I can't tell you guys enough how cool virtual machines are though.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Chuck... I have a whole separate machine for that other
>>>>> stuff... the only time my DAW rig sees the internet is when I
>>>>> have to download an update or plugin. I was just wondering if
>>>>> Linux is less bloated/more streamlined, and would run audio
>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Neil,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the desktop ... Linux is great for surfing/browsing/document
>>>>>> editing/administration/playing
>>>>>> audio video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What works great is to run the OS you want for audio, and install
a
>> linux
>>>>>> virtual machine on it. This will allow you to safely browse and do
>> whatever
>>>>>> the heck else you want, while leaving your base machine completely
>>>>>> untouched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.comj> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Doug Wellington" <doug@parisfaqs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What I
>>>>>>>> think the authors (and many linux people) forget is that it is indeed
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> "religion" and it's fairly hard to convince members of other religions
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> jump ship and join you...
>>>>>>> While I understand from whence you're coming with that statement,
>>>>>>> I personally fail to see the logic behind that sentiment (not
>>>>>>> your's, the zealots), I mean WTF difference does it make? Mac/
>>>>>>> PC, Windoze/Linux Cubase/Paris/Pro-Tools - I could care less...
>>>>>>> just gimme something that works & is at least somewhat
>>>>>>> intuitive, and is reasonably-priced.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can Linux work with CubaseSX? If so, I'd be willing to give it a
>>>>>>> shot. or do I need to be a total tweakhead to be able to set up
>>>>>>> a Linux box?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>Anyone have/use one of these?
Was also looking at the Mackie Onyx.
Thanks
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Yep, I've used it numerous times for quantizing live drum mixes and it =
works great. Cubase has audio quantizing but this is quicker and easier =
to use. =20
There are few plugs I would label as a "magic wand" but this is one is =
just that. =20
I was working on vocal mixes last night and I'm just blown away how =
great this program works. This poor girl singing kept going sharp on me. =
I put it in staff view and set the key sig and there they were ... all =
the accidentals in plain view ... take the mouse and drag to the correct =
note and wa la! =20
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:45c7fe93@linux...
Oh it does that too?!!! That sounds even better!
Cool stuff. I'll be checking it out.
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
news:45c7f392@linux...
I wouldn't say "no artifacts" but the results are really=20
good... but I doubt if I would use it to re-pitch or re-time=20
a song on an album... just individual tracks. The guy=20
giving the demo at NAMM turned a regular 4 on the floor tune=20
into a shuffle with it. If you wanted to use it for=20
realigning drum tracks ala Beat Detective, the Studio=20
version would work best.
David.
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> David,
> Wow! So no artifacts across a whole mix? Can you alter speed
> without altering pitch? That's the ticket for me.
> =20
> So for effecting vocal channels and possibly a whole mix for tempo
> with use in Paris and Cubase which version would you suggest?
> I guess I only need one channel (stereo) if it has to process =
offline=20
> all the time.
> Am I right?
> =20
> Sounds like studio is the full mix version that I'd want huh?
> Thanks for the info.
> Tom
> =20
>=20
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote =
in
> message news:45c7bfd2$1@linux...
> It really depends on what you are using it for. The plugin =
has all
> the standard features, whereas the "essential" and "uno" =
versions only
> offer manual pitch correction. The Cre8 version is good if =
you want
> to make backing vocal tracks from a lead vocal, without having =
to have
> several plugins open at one time. The Studio version is just =
that, a
> fully featured recording and editing package. The quality is =
the same
> regardless of the version. The one thing that Studio does =
that the
> others don't do is manipulating polyphonic files, like =
guitars, keys,
> or even entire mixes. The time manipulation capabilities on a =
full
> mix is nothing short of amazing.
>=20
> For most "tuning" uses, the plugin works great.
>=20
> David.
>=20
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > David,
> > So there's no real-time automatic mode? Maybe standalone =
on my
> Paris comp
> > is the way to go then. A friend of mine has the full blown =
version
> > around here.
> > I'll have to get a demo from him. He loves it with Logic.
> >=20
> > Is the polyphonic version as good quality as it gets? =
Worth the
> extra cash?
> > Tom
> >=20
> >=20
> >
> > "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > message news:45c7b357@linux...
> > Just to explain... the Melodyne plugin has to "record" =
the
> track from
> > the host first... in real time. Then you can =
manipulate the
> sound
> > during playback. One issue here... if you try to go =
back to
> the track
> > (not that you need to) and make additional edits, these =
edits
> will
> > have to be recorded into Melodyne again. You would =
lose what
> work you
> > have already done. Rule of thumb is to make sure your =
edits are
> > finished, then "polish" with the Melodyne plug.
> >
> > David.
> >
> > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > Okay then via spdf to Cubase and back then? =
Realtime in auto
> > mode anyway?
> > > I guess I'll have to render and drag over to Cubase =
for
> processing
> > > otherwise huh?
> > > I think I need another MEC now that I think of it. =
Good
> for another
> > > ADAT and SPDF
> > > with Paris/XP. I'll have to lose the last ADAT XT =
20 for the
> > rack space...
> > > Maybe 1.3 will do...
> > >
> > > I really like realtime everything.
> > > Poor old analog me
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mark McCurdy" <mark@mccurdy.net
> <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net> <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>
> > <mailto:mark@mccurdy.net>> wrote in
> > > message news:45c7a9df@linux...
> > > My guess is it won't work as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > "EKE Sound" <askme@nospam.com
> <mailto:askme@nospam.com> <mailto:askme@nospam.com>
> > <mailto:askme@nospam.com>> wrote in
> > > message news:45c79b4c@linux...
> > > >I seriously doubt if the Melodyne plug would =
work in
> > Paris... it
> > > utilizes
> > > >VST V2.4 Melodyne is also available as a =
stand alone
> > app... maybe
> > > that
> > > >would be a better bet for you.
> > > >
> > > > David.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > > >> Anybody using Melodyne in Paris here?
> > > >> Is it totally functional except for =
automation?
> > > >> I'm pretty sick of Autotune 1.3 and the =
usual work
> arounds.
> > > >> Good to go in Paris?
> > > >>
> > > >> "EK Sound" <Report message to a moderator
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t;> > Chris
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Don Nafe wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Hi guys
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Cubase newbie here
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> just wondering if there's a trick to =
using
> > graphical mode in
> > > >> >> Cubase...I tried running it on a =
simple
> vocal track
> > > staring at
> > > >> "0" and
> > > >> >> I see the graph showing up after the =
vocals
> > > start...about a 1/2
> > > >> second
> > > >> >> or so.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Am I missing something here?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> DOn
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, =
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> > > >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > >
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C749C0.769D5780--"Robert" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Anyone have/use one of these?
>Was also looking at the Mackie Onyx.
I have a 428, and I think it's great. Very smooth, the variable
impedance thing is nice - and if you're getting the digital i/o
option, that's a good thing to have, especially depending on
what convertor box you use... if you're running at 48k or less
it can basically give you 8 ins with the digicard option (4 with
it's own pres, and 4 with the line-level inputs).
I find I like it best with condenser or tube mics, on stuff
like OH's, Hi-Hat, Vocals. It's not a real aggressive
preamp, so there's lots better for rock guitar, bass, etc. But
it's a damn good one, really clean - not like a Grace is
clean/pristine, the ISA has some very slight coloration, but
it's nice coloration - and as I mentioned, very smooth; and at
~$1600 it's a great deal for four channels of quality pres.
Let's put it this way - you can easily piss away $1600 on lots
of stuff you'd be a lot less happier with than the 428.
NeilGee Neil, thanks for the good info man. I can get one new here in CA for
$1899.00 kinda steep for my budget but......!!!
Rob
"Neil" <IUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:45c889bc$1@linux...
>
> "Robert" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Anyone have/use one of these?
>>Was also looking at the Mackie Onyx.
>
> I have a 428, and I think it's great. Very smooth, the variable
> impedance thing is nice - and if you're getting the digital i/o
> option, that's a good thing to have, especially depending on
> what convertor box you use... if you're running at 48k or less
> it can basically give you 8 ins with the digicard option (4 with
> it's own pres, and 4 with the line-level inputs).
>
> I find I like it best with condenser or tube mics, on stuff
> like OH's, Hi-Hat, Vocals. It's not a real aggressive
> preamp, so there's lots better for rock guitar, bass, etc. But
> it's a damn good one, really clean - not like a Grace is
> clean/pristine, the ISA has some very slight coloration, but
> it's nice coloration - and as I mentioned, very smooth; and at
> ~$1600 it's a great deal for four channels of quality pres.
>
> Let's put it this way - you can easily piss away $1600 on lots
> of stuff you'd be a lot less happier with than the 428.
>
> NeilHey all,
If any of you a) enjoy my talking nonsense or b) really want to punch me
in the face, you have a chance to do just that in person tonight. Drop by
ECMM and I'll even show you around my big green Thunderbird after explaining
the new Mold Monkies demo using Cubase SX.
Also, Morgan has agreed that for every question I answer correctly for an
attendee I get another SE ribbon mic, so bring me lots of easy questions
;-)
TCBAre you gonna write another one of them little *picture books* about Cubase
4?
I really wish I could be there. Can you guys webcast it?
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c89fe9$1@linux...
>
> Hey all,
>
> If any of you a) enjoy my talking nonsense or b) really want to punch me
> in the face, you have a chance to do just that in person tonight. Drop by
> ECMM and I'll even show you around my big green Thunderbird after
> explaining
> the new Mold Monkies demo using Cubase SX.
>
> Also, Morgan has agreed that for every question I answer correctly for an
> attendee I get another SE ribbon mic, so bring me lots of easy questions
> ;-)
>
> TCB>Was also looking at the Mackie Onyx.
It's won't hurt to look at it, as long as it's briefly, and from the window
of a car driving by a music store going about 60mph. That way any signal
that is being broadcast through speakers that are playing back any signal
that is being amplified by the Onyx will be dopplered and your ears probably
won't be insulted to the degree they would be if you were just sitting
still.
;o)
"Robert" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote in message news:45c87a39@linux...
>
> Anyone have/use one of these?
> Was also looking at the Mackie Onyx.
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>>Are you people finding other uses.
Hehehe!!!...don't get me started.
;o)
"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote in message news:45c8295d$1@linux...
>
> Hi all. I am wondering what different uses everyone is using with their
> ADAT
> card (try not to get to technical). I bought one a while back to
> interface
> with a ADAT tape machine for backup, but never acquired one. I know there
> are a limited amount of mixers out there (with in price reason) that have
> a ADAT out so you could easily bring in 8 tracks from a mixer via the ADAT
> card. Are you people finding other uses. I am not a ADAT expert, but
> isn't
> the lightpipe 8in AND 8out via the lightpipe ADAT card? Anyway, if i
> don't
> find some use for this thing, I may consider to let go of it... Just
> trying
> to get some ideas other than traditional ADAT card to ADAT tape.
>
> Ed
>Soon you'll actually be recording I bet !I think my last SX book had a paid circulation in the mid teens, so no more
of them for me. And no, we're not webcasting anything. You'll just have to
ask for SX help from all of those bears and elk your dogs keep scaring ;-)
You know, I don't even own SX 4. I bought Live 6 and Komplete and decided
SX 3 is good enough for me. Or at least that I don't think SX 4 is work another
grand for me.
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Are you gonna write another one of them little *picture books* about Cubase
>4?
>
>I really wish I could be there. Can you guys webcast it?
>
>;o)
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:45c89fe9$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> If any of you a) enjoy my talking nonsense or b) really want to punch
me
>> in the face, you have a chance to do just that in person tonight. Drop
by
>> ECMM and I'll even show you around my big green Thunderbird after
>> explaining
>> the new Mold Monkies demo using Cubase SX.
>>
>> Also, Morgan has agreed that for every question I answer correctly for
an
>> attendee I get another SE ribbon mic, so bring me lots of easy questions
>> ;-)
>>
>> TCB
>
>Well.......maybe. I'm gonna be experimenting for the next few days. Morgans
RME MADI development system showed up yesterday PM. I'm going to be
experimenting with thiis mobo and the MADI card with 4 x UAD-1 cards. The
goal is to lose the two Magma's I'm using now to host the 3 x RME HDSP cards
and the 4 x UAD-1 cards and get everything working in the mobo PCI
slots.......and if that works, then I'm going MADI and XP 64 is right around
the corner for me....and 4 G RAM....and whatever else the future may
hold...........
;o)
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:45c8a48a$1@linux...
>
> Soon you'll actually be recording I bet !"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all. I am wondering what different uses everyone is using with their
ADAT
>card
I use MOTU 2408s and a 308 essentially as a big digital patchbay. The ADAT
I/O allows me to patch in my PARIS rig for piping to external fx or using
separate outboard converters. Sometimes used to pipe to mixing desk, although
I tend to mix in PARIS mostly. For digital interconnects ADAT (who cares
if they ar only 20 bit!) comes in handy.
Nic.I have on returning my Kurzweil KSP8 verb...
"Nic Grant" <paris@softaudio.com> wrote:
>
>"Ed" <askme@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi all. I am wondering what different uses everyone is using with their
>ADAT
>>card
>
>I use MOTU 2408s and a 308 essentially as a big digital patchbay. The ADAT
>I/O allows me to patch in my PARIS rig for piping to external fx or using
>separate outboard converters. Sometimes used to pipe to mixing desk, although
>I tend to mix in PARIS mostly. For digital interconnects ADAT (who cares
>if they ar only 20 bit!) comes in handy.
>
>Nic.Don't ;auph its serious !
I like the MD sound for some things , it is thin and round like aspirin for
the ears !
So I would love a realtime MD or even MP3 encoder on VST.
Anyone is aware of its existence ?
Regards,
Dimitrios"Robert" <studiomanitou@gmail.com> wrote:
>Gee Neil, thanks for the good info man. I can get one new here in CA for
>$1899.00 kinda steep for my budget but......!!!
$1,640 - New (or so he states), on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Focusrite-ISA428-Pre-Pack-4-Channel-Prea mp-ISA-428_W0QQitemZ260015648093QQihZ016QQcategoryZ119018QQr dZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemHi,
I know both Wavelab and Reaper will record directly MP3. even multitrack.
Dimitrios wrote:
> Don't ;auph its serious !
> I like the MD sound for some things , it is thin and round like aspirin for
> the ears !
> So I would love a realtime MD or even MP3 encoder on VST.
> Anyone is aware of its existence ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
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